aficionado, “chris’ll always be a lazy bum by nature”
no boxer is a lazy bum by nature. no more than they’re a gym rat by nature. lazy = bad habit / gym rat = good habit.Posted May 10, 2014 4:25 pm
Maybe but the rose coloured tint of nostalgia, is stronger than any crackPosted May 10, 2014 3:45 pm
Arreola’s going through the same routine as always. He lost, claims he didn’t train at all, now claims he’s fully dedicated and will win. Maybe. But he’ll always be a lazy bum by nature. Even if he wins tonight he’ll relapse.Posted May 10, 2014 2:25 pm
Joker, put the crack pipe away dude. Your brain is shot.Posted May 10, 2014 1:39 pm
if the first fight was the indicator than stieverne wins. arreola just could not land effectively and keept eating shots. i have lost my belief in arreola and his team to implement anything effective. i hope arreola wins and i hope he proves me wrong but im taking don kings stieverne in this one as sorry as stieverne isPosted May 10, 2014 10:41 am
keep the hw circus rolling.Posted May 10, 2014 7:27 am
@Tark concerning heavyweights.
Damn bru are u really that ignorant?
Head movements from Arreola. .land his bombs, and its KO. .he looked to stationery last time..Arreola has proven his KO power..Posted May 10, 2014 3:24 am
Should be a war, but every time I think a fight will be a war and get disappointed, but I doubt if this fight will disappoint. Arreola appears to be in shape, Stiverne appeared to be depressed at first, then started running his mouth then he said that he does not talk……………which is it? Arreola did not appear to be nervous at all. This could be a good fight, but…………….If Arreola lands a big punch on Stiverne it will be over. Arreola has been stopped only one time and that was against Vitali Klitschko, who would have knocked Stiverne out cold, but Vlad will do that, unless the winner knocks out Wilder, which is quite possible………….Posted May 10, 2014 2:40 am
As long as Arreola is defensively smarter this time around, which I think he wil be, I think he’ll KO Stiverne. Arreola needs to use his deadly uppercuts, killer body shots, and hard jab to get the job done. He also has good defensive skills when he uses them and is an excellent counter-puncher. You know he knows what he’s getting into Saturday night and I’m picking him to win.Posted May 10, 2014 12:35 am
Right.., This is not a matchup of masterful technicians. These are 2 guys who are looking for opponents who are easy to hit.
They’ll fight anyone in a title fight.. but you look at their records and they’re damned selective.. including selecting each other.. They both see the other as somebody they can punch the heck out of, almost like a heavy bag.
In a fight like this you examine the gloves and hand wrapping procedure of the opponent real good. Any little bit of an edge can sway a fight like this, so there’s a bigger temptation to cheat.Posted May 9, 2014 11:27 pm
arreola is not to be written off in this fight at all. i dont know who im gonna forecast to win. stieverne is atrocious stylistically. his left was practically at his waist the whole fight. stieverne is wide open for EVERY THING. arreola even found success with the left hook. arreola can beat stieverne if stieverne does not just simply power himself to a win. many of the top guys will knock stiverne off IF he faces them. stievernse stance is deplorablePosted May 9, 2014 10:07 pm
Stiverne didn’t look cut to me at all. Neither looked fat and neither looked cut.Posted May 9, 2014 9:30 pm
True. It’d be better if they were both around 225-230. But Stiverne is cut and Arreola has excess fat, so if they suddenly showed up at that weight they could prove weaker. It takes long term dedication to be shredded and fit, you can’t change the routine dramatically fight to fight. So in the end they’re both at a decent weight, for them.Posted May 9, 2014 8:29 pm
Both fighters weighed in at 239, not bad but like that not great either. A lot of these fighters are carrying excess weight that’s only slowing them down, a slow moving fighter doesn’t have a chance when it comes to fighting a well conditioned champion like Wladimir Klitschko, it’s just target practice.Posted May 9, 2014 8:00 pm
Two things: Stiverne is normally a clam guy and he blew up here. Often when boxers act out of character they’re mentally not prepared for war. Also, they both weighed about 239 lbs. So Arreola is prepared. This makes me lean towards Arreola now, whereas before I thought Stiverne would win. I’m going with Arreola by TKO.Posted May 9, 2014 7:48 pm
An Idiot said…, “Cunningham aint even a heavyweight u fool”
That’s funny… Cunningham weighed a rock hard 210 for Fury… and it was a heavyweight fight… Cunningham is competing in the heavyweight division.
Ali weighed 206 for liston… 203 for Mildenberger… 201 for Cooper II… Larry Holmes weighed 209 for Ken Norton… Frazier weighed 203 for Bonavena… 205 for his winning fight versus Ali… Holyfield weighed 208 when he KO’d Buster Douglas for the title… They were all lighter than Cunningham.Posted May 9, 2014 7:45 pm
both seem up for it should be one of the best HW fights in a whilePosted May 9, 2014 7:38 pm
A mere one week later and not even one article for the supposed GOAT….LOL!Posted May 9, 2014 7:38 pm
Classless bums.Posted May 9, 2014 7:18 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Looking forward to watching this one. I grew up in the 70’s and 80’s where you could see championship fights on free tv. None of that PPV crap existed then. I hope both stay true to their word and go to war!!!!!Posted May 9, 2014 7:10 pm
Tark, I totally agree that Arrelo shouldn’t have been given this title shot seeing as he was officially “eliminated” by Stiverne already. Stiverne should be fighting the winner of another eliminator…….it makes no sense to me that Stiverne HAS to beat Arreola TWICE to get the WBC crown whereas Arreola only needs to beat Stiverne once in 2 attempts.
Stiverne all the way areolla will fight hard but stiverne has the momentum from the last fightPosted May 9, 2014 6:37 pm
The press conference looked a little rehearsed. It’s a pointless rematch being that Bermane won the 1st fight without any controversybut the outcome will be significant nonetheless. Both say their in good shape it will be interesting to see what they weigh in at.Posted May 9, 2014 6:28 pm
@Tark…fury “icing” cunningham is a quality win?
Forget about making a silly deal about the loser shaving his head. They need to make a real deal – the loser must retire from boxing.Posted May 9, 2014 5:36 pm
KL…, Draws and knockdowns generally don’t determine anything. Wins do.
A quality win is Haye KOing Chisora… Pulev beating Thompson, Dimitrenko, and Ustinov… Wilder stopping Scott and Liakhovich quickly… Glazkov beating Adamek… and Fury icing Cunningham.
If you’re going to give Stiverne a title shot for beating Arreola.. don’t make it against Arreola.. make Stiverne fight one of the above winners not named Pulev — who already has a much better title shot going with Wlad.
I would rather Stiverne be matched with Glazkov, Wilder, or Fury than Arreola… This is not the first time I’ve seen an American heavyweight given a title shot for LOSING to a hand picked opponent … but I just think it sucks.Posted May 9, 2014 5:12 pm
“Stiverne really has a weak record, I just looked at it.”- Tark
Tark I think that’s a tad harsh, look at Stiverne record more closely and you will see that Stiverne has recorded a first round KO over a guy called Harold Sconiers, yep the same guy that decked Wilder who you seem to rate very highly.
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
F*CK him up, Cristobal!!!Posted May 9, 2014 4:33 pm
Stiverne wins by giving Arreola another boxing lesson. Arreola will try to KO Stiverne early, only to tired and become a punching bag for the reminder of the fight.Posted May 9, 2014 4:13 pm
Gonzo the Dragonborn – Part Man, Part Vulture, Part Baboon, Part Machine
ROFL @ Stiverne. That was like something out of a terrible straight to video cheesy Hollywood boxing movie. I think he’ll beat Nipples again but he’ll always end up taking an L against him when it comes to the verbal.Posted May 9, 2014 3:46 pm
You can’t be 85 and running around like a 50 year old hippie.
Yeah TARK knows best. lolPosted May 9, 2014 3:36 pm
Hey goosen i want my suit backPosted May 9, 2014 3:25 pm
both very bad cab drivers. move on.Posted May 9, 2014 3:24 pm
Hey goosen – the joker wants his suit backPosted May 9, 2014 3:22 pm
was bermaine hanging out with lil wayne at the mayweather boxing club – he looks bakedPosted May 9, 2014 3:20 pm
Dough boy will be KO’d.The new WBC Heavyweight champion is Berman Stiverne.Posted May 9, 2014 3:13 pm
King has toned down the hair a lot in the last few years. It’s not a foot tall anymore. You can’t be 85 and running around like a 50 year old hippie.
But he’s not going to cut off his hair. That would be like Bob Arum washing his face.Posted May 9, 2014 3:08 pm
Don King should of took the challenge. And guranteed that he would sit down in the ring immediately after and have it cut off. That used to be an excellent promo in the old WCCW wrestling days. Even I would toon in to root for Aerola! Don was getting a little sensitive there. lol..Posted May 9, 2014 2:07 pm
“…music legends richie sambora and ray parker jr”!?….HAHA!Posted May 9, 2014 1:57 pm
Wow!!! a Don King siting. Who the hell does he own!Posted May 9, 2014 1:45 pm
Jake Lead Rights
CA has always had the goods to be a champion. But his early success made him think that he could win fights with his size and skill. i thought for sure losing to Tomas Adamek was going to make him wake up but it didnt. It took a broken nose and a bad Christmas to help him wake up and see his selfishness. The question isn’t does he have the heart to go balls out and go out on his shield. We’ve seen him do that. It’s not that he doesnt have speed and power or skill….The question is has he had enough time to acclimate to his new weight and size? if he has i like his chances if camp was all about losing weight then it’s not going to go well. Both BS and CA are a match made in heaven for televised boxing…. The fights going to be FOTY…..Just watch and see. despite who wins it wont be the last we hear from them. everyone’s quick to write off Chris, he has a lot of fight left in him and he’s going to bring it every time…we should see Chris at least for 5 more years if he keeps up the hard work in the gymPosted May 9, 2014 1:12 pm
Rooting For Chris.Posted May 9, 2014 12:42 pm
Look the one thing I don’t want to happen is for King to own one of the belts. It will never be unified if a King fighter owns a belt. For that reason alone I will be routing for Arreolla. I also did not like the way Stiverne seemed to tense up on the mike. You need to be loose and relaxed to fight your best.Posted May 9, 2014 12:26 pm
…. “I like Arreola….always have….but he is losing this fight. Stiverne IMO is the most skilled young heavyweight in the game right now.”
There are dozens more skilled than Stiverne.
He would get trashed by Jennings or Wilder. Fury would destroy him. Wladimir would bury him. Pulev would pound him out. Haye would get rid of him. Chisora might stop him late. Glazkov would beat the crap out of him in a distance affair. Scott might even beat him because I don’t see a stoppage for either.
Bermane is fighting a guy who’s his speed. These 2 guys couldn’t beat contenders so their made for each other.Posted May 9, 2014 12:25 pm
Wilder? Smoke n mirrorsPosted May 9, 2014 12:18 pm
You have to wonder why, when after Vitali retired, the WBC did not invite Wladimir to fight someone for their title? He’s clearly the #1 heavyweight in the world. Politics and the desire to give someone else a chance to be “champ” – this is literally like charity…. C’mon guys give Chris and Bermane a chance to wrap a belt around their waist and pretend the are a champion… time to vomit. And, yes, the fact that Arreola cannot seem to put three sentences together without an F-bomb is very low-class. I cannot wait for him to get another Klitschko ass pounding like what Vitali did to him and made him cry in the ring like a baby.Posted May 9, 2014 12:08 pm
sean p h
Wilder? Lol. He was handed the bronze in 08. He had not fought a top boxer yet. Perez and jennings are prospects.Posted May 9, 2014 12:05 pm
sean p h
Yeah cause they dont want any of wlad the real champ. Rooting for chris!Posted May 9, 2014 12:00 pm
Whoever win this fight , it’s a nightmare will face WILDER (31-0-31KO)Posted May 9, 2014 11:47 am
Can anyone throwing a chicken to make. A MarketPosted May 9, 2014 11:44 am
it’s a shame that these two bums can fight for the wbc belt!!!Posted May 9, 2014 11:22 am
I meant maybe CS is not as good a tech boxer as BS. Too much BS and CS and BS and CS and got my fingers goofy. Too much BS goin on here.Posted May 9, 2014 10:44 am
If King took the bet, and I bet he did not, then he will be in the barber chair to get his electric hair lopped off. I am going with CA in this one. Guts, heart, good inside pressure, punches in bunches, and a big punch to take BS out of it. CA needs to take BS into the late rounds and then KO him. CA needs to cautiously take him into the late rounds and then KTFO of BS. Maybe BS is not as good a tech boxer as BS but he is a better fighter. If CS hurts BS, CS will take him out because he can finish. BS will have his gloves on the canvas in this one. Viva Arreloa!! Viva Arreola!!Posted May 9, 2014 10:42 am
Blah blah, blah…@ in what planet is 36 year old young?Posted May 9, 2014 10:02 am
It is funny everyone was on Garcia for calling himself PR, now this guy from LA saying he is Mexican and that is alright.Posted May 9, 2014 9:07 am
Stiverne had two weaknesses. Slow footed and workrate drops in the later rounds. He has been doing his running and skipping. He should be faster on his feet and should be able to maintain a high workrate. He is simply a better boxer than Arreola, he has a better jab, a longer reach, a better defence and hits much much harder. He will either get a comfortable UD or KO Arreola. Arreola will do what Arreola does. Attack attack attack and maintain pressure whilst leaving himself wide open. He will get hit too often with too many hard punches. I would like to see stiverne in with wilder after this fight to see how he handles a much taller fighter who can hit.Posted May 9, 2014 9:06 am
Khan’s Cuz, Stop with that nonsense. That punch was timed and set up perfectly. Nothing “lucky” about it. I mean I respect yours or anyone’s opinion who feel that Arreola will win this bout but come on man. Give Stiverne his respect. he dominated Chris in the first fight. THE END, nothing “lucky” about it.Posted May 9, 2014 8:58 am
Khan’s Cuz Achmed
Even if Stiverne win’s he will lose the big picture just by being involved with Don King. I don’t think it matters as Arreola will correct the problems this time around. A nice but also very lucky shot is what turned the first fight in Stiverne’s favor. Either way….#KingKhan2014Posted May 9, 2014 8:49 am
Blah blah, blah…
I like Arreola….always have….but he is losing this fight. Stiverne IMO is the most skilled young heavyweight in the game right now. Great speed and power too. Stiverne UDPosted May 9, 2014 8:37 am
Swedish Boxing Fan
Let the battle for the “Paper made world heavyweight championship” start.
The title is the WBC belt on the “paper” and one of nthe title challangers (Chris Arreola) havent even made himself earned of another title shot and still he is up to fight for a vacant title.
Non of the men will be rememberd for having a title they never won from the Klitschko brother as the brothers have have ruled the world heavyweight scene sence 2006, 2008-2014 and on.
Non of these two guyes can never claim to be “THE CHAMP” unless they challange Wladimir and fights him.Posted May 9, 2014 8:24 am
Someone tell this dumbass he is from Riverside, Ca, USA not Mexico.Posted May 9, 2014 7:53 am
regardless of which fighter wins? I do not believe they will hold the belt very long. if Arreola is the USA’S best hope to bring a belt back home it is not saying very much in my opinion.Posted May 9, 2014 7:34 am
Stiverne – Probably more easily than last time out.Posted May 9, 2014 7:25 am
arroelaPosted May 9, 2014 7:00 am
Stiverne talking like a retard and Don King yelling like preacher. Scary sh!t… not.Posted May 9, 2014 6:26 am
Stiverne really has a weak record, I just looked at it. He only claim to fame is he beat Arreola and stopped Ray Austin in 10.
You’ve got to get Austin out in a 3 or 4 rounds. Stiverne hasn’t fought any heavyweights who are any good at all. Not so amazing if you think about it… He was originally picked as a easy chump who Arreola would look good against.Posted May 9, 2014 5:33 am
Bo Bo Olson
If Don King wins, there will never be a Klitchko fight.
One, the Klitchko’s think King is very low class; two King wants to remain in power, (his contract is he always walks out of the ring with the winner…in case folks have forgotten.) that he has not had in over a decade…..remember Holms never fought the other Champ….got away with the “Kiddy Parade”.
… Stiverne seemed more able
This could be an entertaining fight. I like Arreola, not sure why, maybe it’s his natural style no bs. Hope he wins. Driver be seemed more able to speak once he had left the podium.Posted May 9, 2014 5:00 am
Arreola will KO the slow moving slow talking Stiverne. Arreolas power will knock Stiverne out this time.Posted May 9, 2014 4:56 am
Mick the Marmalizer
I thought Stiverne fought out of Canada, not the USA. Anyhow I’d like to see Don King with a shaven head!!Posted May 9, 2014 4:13 am
Its likely just to publicise the least known heavyweight title fight in years, if they really hated each other they would have been at each others throats, they were close enough.Posted May 9, 2014 3:43 am
MNboxingFAN – Sean
Yeah ESPN did the right thing picking this up for sure. I can’t wait to watch this one.Posted May 9, 2014 3:43 am
this should be a spicey fight for sure, a bit of dislike for each other always makes for a great fight.Posted May 9, 2014 3:41 am
MNboxingFAN – Sean
Stiverne shouldn’t be allowed to speak. I’d rather listen to Don King for hours on end than 30 seconds of Stiverne. Did they just wake him up? Seriously… say what you want about Arreola, but at leasts he’s fun to listen to. He may swear a bit and I’m not a fan of that, but still he’s funny and honest and can keep an audience entertained.Posted May 9, 2014 3:40 am
In fact I would have liked to have seen Dr Steel Hammer pounding him to dust.Posted May 9, 2014 3:34 am
Stiverne can barely string two words together….yawn.Posted May 9, 2014 3:30 am
If Arreola wins the fight the WBC belt will be brought back to America. If Stiverne were to win the WBC belt will be brought to Haiti…………….Stiverne is not an American, Arreola is an American. Some people don’t seem to know that………….
Neither one could beat a Klitschko.Posted May 9, 2014 2:41 am
Dude called this press conference low class bcuz of cursing??? No, its called PROMOTION!!!!!!Posted May 9, 2014 2:33 am
George Foreman, a wise man, never rematched anyone who beat him.
“Well, think about it. Why would you fight somebody who already knows he can beat you? My most comfortable fights were against guys I already beat before. They either had to get a lot better or I had to get a lot worse. It’s like going back to a restaurant where the food was fantastic. You’re chances of coming out ahead are pretty good.”Posted May 9, 2014 1:57 am
stiverne won the first fight quite comfortably. I think he’s right. he will always be better than chris. Stiverne by UD 117-111Posted May 9, 2014 1:09 am
The King is back and is controlling a belt. How old is the Don?Posted May 9, 2014 1:08 am
Chris aint fighting a K-Bros, so this is his big shot to win the Title, and I think he will if he fights a smart fight and does not get nailed. He fights his fight without a broke nose and he wins.Posted May 9, 2014 12:48 am
This press conference is so low-class it is shameful. Thank God the real Champion Klitschko would conduct himself like a true sportsman, not curse at all and easily beat both of these losers… you all know it. The fact that this is being touted as a “World Championship” is only because a Klitschko retired!Posted May 9, 2014 12:37 am
round1-Stiverne.Posted May 9, 2014 12:28 am
Stiverne will win. Chris should count himself lucky he has this chancePosted May 9, 2014 12:19 am
I give Stiverne the nod. Should be a good slugfest. I see whoever wins this contest being knocked out by Deontay Wilder in their next outing.
Then we can have the biggest heavyweight fight of the decade with Wilder and Klitschko.Posted May 9, 2014 12:13 am
Good fight – based on his apparent condition, I’ll take Chris in a brutal slugfestPosted May 8, 2014 11:49 pm
Big Ham I agree.
This dude Stiverne is a big sh!t talker all the sudden? Cris is right, he was a quiet dude before.. hahaPosted May 8, 2014 11:30 pm
Chris will knock his head off. re: hola has a lot of confidence going into this fightPosted May 8, 2014 11:26 pm
I think it is funny Stiverne says he only does his talking in the ring then went on a tirade against Arreola. I may take Arreola solely on that alonePosted May 8, 2014 11:20 pm
Should be a terrific fight!Posted May 8, 2014 10:42 pm
I am not sure who wins this one. I would lean towards Stiverne. Chris has potential but he finds ways to lose. Good fight though on the HW scene. I will be watching. Props to ESPN for supporting boxing, by purchasing this fight.Posted May 8, 2014 10:21 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I believe Stiverne will win.Posted May 8, 2014 10:19 pm