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Vultures

Standing alone @ Tier One must be lonely at times, but your valor is much respected by us common aspiring folk. To be so generous with your gifting of points is honorable, yet at the same time viciously revoking them as needed is just pure beauty in its simplest form. Being Gonzo is a responsibility bestowed on you, and you handle it like Maidana handled Broner…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:23 am
Mangus
Gonzo is hella funny.
He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:30 am 


Vultures

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Hidalgo
LOL Gonz! You da man!
Posted May 5, 2014 9:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Much respect to Brother Gonzo, the man, the myth, the legend…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:25 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Standing alone @ Tier One must be lonely at times, but your valor is much respected by us common aspiring folk. To be so generous with your gifting of points is honorable, yet at the same time viciously revoking them as needed is just pure beauty in its simplest form. Being Gonzo is a responsibility bestowed on you, and you handle it like Maidana handled Broner…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:23 am
Mangus
Gonzo is hella funny.
He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:29 am 


Vultures

He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:29 am 


Vultures

WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:04 am 


Vultures

Gonzo is hella funny.
He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:04 am 


Vultures

Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:04 am 


Vultures

BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:03 am 


Vultures

spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:03 am 


Vultures

Much respect to Brother Gonzo, the man, the myth, the legend…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:25 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Standing alone @ Tier One must be lonely at times, but your valor is much respected by us common aspiring folk. To be so generous with your gifting of points is honorable, yet at the same time viciously revoking them as needed is just pure beauty in its simplest form. Being Gonzo is a responsibility bestowed on you, and you handle it like Maidana handled Broner…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:23 am
Mangus
Gonzo is hella funny.
He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:02 am 


Vultures

Updated
Hidalgo
LOL Gonz! You da man!
Posted May 5, 2014 9:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Much respect to Brother Gonzo, the man, the myth, the legend…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:25 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Standing alone @ Tier One must be lonely at times, but your valor is much respected by us common aspiring folk. To be so generous with your gifting of points is honorable, yet at the same time viciously revoking them as needed is just pure beauty in its simplest form. Being Gonzo is a responsibility bestowed on you, and you handle it like Maidana handled Broner…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:23 am
Mangus
Gonzo is hella funny.
He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 5:02 am 


Vultures

Gonzo the Dragonborn – Part Man, Part Vulture, Part Baboon, Part Machine
Updated
Hidalgo
LOL Gonz! You da man!
Posted May 5, 2014 9:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Much respect to Brother Gonzo, the man, the myth, the legend…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:25 am
It’s Me, Ernie
Standing alone @ Tier One must be lonely at times, but your valor is much respected by us common aspiring folk. To be so generous with your gifting of points is honorable, yet at the same time viciously revoking them as needed is just pure beauty in its simplest form. Being Gonzo is a responsibility bestowed on you, and you handle it like Maidana handled Broner…
Posted March 7, 2014 2:23 am
Mangus
Gonzo is hella funny.
He’s also nearly always on point too.
Posted March 5, 2014 1:01 pm
Joseph Herron
LOL…I see the self proclaimed “Raven” (Gonzo) is spanking everyone on this site once again…LOL
Posted February 11, 2014 1:28 am
spartacus65
Goodevening. Gonzo the dragon born/ Edgar Allen Poe, sir I have to say you are one gutsy bloke. Your posts are definitely like how should I say? A virtual whirlwind of creativity! Like watching a cross between Pacquiao and Aaron Pryor. There is a method to the madness there for certain. Must admit I do enjoy them if for nothing more than the humor laced with some thought provoking view points. Peace and strength and a hearty cheers to you soldier.
Posted February 11, 2014 12:55 am
BEARS
everyone know your number one gonzo i dont think any sane mind disputes that fact.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:21 pm
BEARS
WOW!!! what a post GONZO!!! well said!!! well said!!! look out gonzo can wow a dude with his posts. hands down best post on this thread! THIS GUY gonzo is not number for no reason son.
Posted February 10, 2014 10:08 pm
Mayweather86
Gonzo is by far one if the most entertaining posters on here get a sense of humor and enjoy life a little.
Posted February 1, 2014 9:48 pm
BEARS
gonzo! thats my guy right there! number one poster on east side. better hope he forgives your boxing knowledge sins
Posted September 3, 2013 8:30 pm
Joseph Herron
Vivic’s vernacular, Gonzo’s gags, and old Yank’s yarns are part of what makes ESB the great boxing site going.
Posted August 31, 2013 2:12 pm
It’s Me, Ernie
Another fine example why Brother Gonzo is at Tier One…
Posted September 2, 2013 12:26 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. The Lion King of Beat Street)
Brother Gonzo. With that uniquely creative imagination and those wordsmithing skills you could write dark, macabre, action-adventure/horror-thrillers for a living. You could be the next Edgar Allen Poe and not even realize it.
– Posted August 21, 2013 3:34 pm
Turbo-H@mster
You have made a mistake now boy.
You don`t have to worry about who Gonzo is, you need to worry about what he is. He is a force of n@ture. He has f-c-u-k-d a hurric@ne. When he was born, even his d@ddy called him d@ddy.
Imagine if you will a Tsun@mi, but rather than being made of water, it is comprised of pure Ande@n Cond0r mixed with l@shings of Clint E@stwood circa 1964, Fistful of Doll@rs er@.
Now imagine that Tsun@mi g@thering it`s force up on Tier one, which I can tell you extends upwards of 22,000 feet, and is a place where ordin@ry humans would require Oxygen m@sks, so as I say imagine it g@thering it`s force, growing and growing, lightening flicker!ng, the smell of ozone in the air and word-pairings, and syll@bals clash together.
Then there is a creak as the Golden doors of tier one are pulled open by Tera P@trick and Scarlett Joh@nnson wearing nothing but smiles, and a hungry look for e@ch other.
You have a moments silence where you have the ins@ne hope that nothing will happen.
But then, suddenly there it is.
A million cubic tons of Vulture E@stwood Dragonborn fury pouring from the sky, slicing it`s way towards your very soul.
At the tip of this Tsnum@i you`ll see a sneer!ng pair of lips form, which as they grow closer draw back to reveal a set of kn@shers intent on dam@ge.
Realising your error you back away, head twisting, seek!ng an esc@pe.
You tr!p and fall onto your back and cover your eyes.
But this can do nothing to stop the be@st you have unleashed from settling it`s jaws upon your most pr!zed possess!ons and r!pping them out root and stem with a crunching twist.
That my friend is Gonzo.
If you feel this is an ex@ggeration then b@re this in mind. Do you know Keyzer Soze? Of course you do, everyone has heard of him. What most people do not know however is that Keyzer once borrowed Gonzo’s Ferr@ri 250 GT, and returned it without filling the t@nk.
This is why Gonzo now possesses a mousem@t made from Keyzers scr-0-tum.

Posted May 15, 2014 3:29 am 


Myles

Sredmond is a known Klitschko hater. Known Golovkin hater. Known Kovalev hater. Pretty soon he’ll hate on Lomachenko.

I see a pattern.

Posted May 14, 2014 4:47 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@SREDMOND….I hear you….All of us are not fools….Just a handful….All you need to do is read through all the rubbish and you will know exactly who they are….

Posted May 13, 2014 6:10 pm 


Fight Aficionado

That multi-posting SREDMOND aka Supreme Court makes an appearance to slag on Wlad. Why is that not a surprise? Same as always.

Posted May 13, 2014 5:21 pm 


Damon Zane

Looks like the poster directly below is just a tad bitter and lacks a touch of objectivity! The Klitschkos dominated the division for 10 years and that’s just the truth. You have to be realistic and bitterness just won’t wash. Both Bros achieved what they set out do. They took care of most everyone over an extended period in an increasingly global sport too…they’d beat most of the famous names of the past. Both Top 10 ATG heavyweights.

Posted May 13, 2014 2:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitali Klitschkos retirement has been a NON EVENT, his tenure was admirable yet unremarkable a #2 man during the relevant portion of his reign and his name forever associated with a loss that his wimpish fans try to overturn via politics.. Vitali is NEVER getting credit for beating Lewis and the bulk of the planet outside Germany could care less that he is gone… Wlad will get more fanfare when he hangs them up yet it will PALE in comparison to other Champions who had the type of opponents, battles and fights to become legends instead of hugfests and multiple stinkers…

Posted May 13, 2014 1:50 pm 


Pratt

Evidently the WBC has given Vitali Klitschko the WBC HW Emeritus Champ status, which gives Vitali the option of being number 1 contender for Stiverne in the WBC if Vitali decides to come out of retirement. So WBC has given the cards to Vitali to deal out as he chooses. King can milk it until Vitali un-retires.
Then Stiverne must face Vitali Klitschko according to WBC Rules of engagement.

Posted May 13, 2014 11:18 am 


Fight Aficionado

And ESB I’ve not posted in 5 hours. How is one post in 5 hours “too fast?” Fix the website FFS.

Posted May 12, 2014 7:49 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Byrd refused to rematch Vitali. He was getting his ass kicked and he hit the lottery with the rotator cuff tear. Let good enough alone.” – Cosign. Anyone citing that fight reveals their bias. Fact is people in the audience were laughing at Byrd until Vitali tore his rotator cuff. It’s a bad injury that led Byrd to technically win a fight he loss 9 out of 10 times.

Posted May 12, 2014 7:48 pm 


KL

Roman I doubt a unification fight will happen anytime soon, for several reasons, not least because Don King has gone so long without a Heavyweight champ, and he wants to hold onto it for as long as possible, and that is why King is quick to point out that Stiverne has the right to have a voluntary defense (Or as we all know …….. a soft opponent).
Boxing is all about business, and there probably needs a stable WBC champ who has successfully defended at least a couple of times to raise the profile of the eventual WBC champ, whether that be Stiverne, Wilder, or someone else.
Only when the boxing money makers think that maximum revenues can be exploited from a mega fight unification match will we possibly see WBC champ vs Wlad.

Posted May 12, 2014 6:35 pm 


Roman

@huckster You were calling for Wlad-Pulev for a long time, weren’t you? It’ll probably happen in 2014. You gone cold on Kubrat’s chances or what?!? Are you on the Stiverne bandwagon now? If they can get all the belts together, that’s good, isn’t it? I say Wlad should get a chance to unify ALL belts, whether it’s next fight or the one after, whether it’s against Stiverne, Wilder or whomever…

Posted May 12, 2014 3:53 pm 


TARK

Byrd refused to rematch Vitali. He was getting his ass kicked and he hit the lottery with the rotator cuff tear. Let good enough alone.

Wadimir destroyed Byrd twice because Chris wanted another shot at Wlad. Byrd never won a round in either fight. It got worse the 2nd fight because Wladimir was a lot more advanced.

Vitali took 3 guys who floored Wladimir 8 times, Sander, Puritty, and Peter, beat them up badly and stopped them.

Lewis also lost to Vitali on Unanimous Technical Decision because the fight should have gone to the scorecards and Vitali was winning on all scorecards. The cuts were slashed open with flagrant foul blows, and holding and hitting, and you go to the scorecards when that happens.

Lewis chickened out on a rematch—because his biggest asset in the first fight referee Lou Moret who let LL foul with impunity.

Posted May 12, 2014 3:25 pm 


Anonymous

Lewis and Vitali are old news. Wlad should call out Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder and the come backing David Haye for a second thrashing. Stiverne will need many more fights before he can get to Wlad’s level, so Wlad should poleaxe the joker Fury as soon as he can and make a fortune doing it.

Posted May 12, 2014 3:25 pm 


OneChampToRuleThemAll

Lewis,even though he was on the slide and poorly conditioned,still had too much for the in his prime Vitali,Lennox is the best name on Vitali’s resume by a country mile,but Vitali didn’t have what it takes to beat Lennox.Lennox took a lot of heat from Vitali for not rematching him and retiring, which is ironic when you think that Vitali didn’t rematch Byrd,instead passing him off to his brother,then fought canon fodder in the last coupleof years of his reign,before holding the belt hostage for almost 2 years before retiring

Posted May 12, 2014 3:06 pm 


huckster

oh, now, the kbro fans want stiverne to be stand up man and fight the right men in line. Wlad-Pulev 2014 cool! Box off for the WBC mandatory. Jennings-Wilder 2014. The winner fight Thompson. The winner fight Stiverne. wlad and vitali did that stuff. What’s Good for the Goose Is Good for the Gander. Stiverne gets Rahman, Foreman, Tyson, or one of Wilder’s top 200. Let the Haitian enjoy being champ and make a few bucks. The mandatory will get his chance. Relax, we have a new and hopefully, will not sit on the belt for 18 months.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:56 pm 


Myles

It’s important to clean up the sport. Too much horrible judging, refereeing, corruption, cheating, cherry picking, favoritism, black balling, and out right ducking going on. As well as business interests turning a blind eye to it. It’s good to shed a light on it, so eventually it ceases to exist and fans get an unpercolated product some day.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:48 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Impressed with Stiverne. He’s got serious power with either hand and can take it as well as give it. But I doubt he’s fighting Wlad, he’ll instead do the mandatory against Wilder and then play keepaway with that WBC title much like Haye did. Hope I’m proven wrong though.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:42 pm 


Anonymous

It’s like Groundhog Day with you idiots. I must have read at least half a dozen threads on here regarding Vitali and Lennox, back and forth between the likes of Tark, LionKing and Bears going on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on about conspiracy theories related to gloving, raking, thumbing, cheating, hugging, headlocking, rubbing, and any other ing you can pluck out of the sky and then there is the hut he was ahead conspiracy.
Why do you bother? Who cares? How can you guys argue the same bs, time after time after time after time after time. You will not change history. If you had a time machine, perhaps you can go back in time and jump in and let the ref know what’s going on, hit if not forget about it. Get a life. Move on.

Word of advice, next time Vitali and Lennox come up for debate fellas, just copy + paste your posts from last week! the week before! the week before the week before or the week before the week before the week before.

Do you see how ridiculous this post is? It’s as ridiculous as the posts going back and forth from you guys for months and months!

Posted May 12, 2014 2:28 pm 


Showboat

There is more chance of me seeing the queens tits than of seeing him in a ring with klitschko. While king is in charge anyway.

Posted May 12, 2014 12:40 pm 


Hmmmm

Well, here’s hoping King makes good but I don’t see it somehow.

Posted May 12, 2014 12:30 pm 


Eric_Suede

I’ll be optimistic. After Stiverne beat Arreola the first time , Don King was talking mess saying he wanted to go after Vitali. So If he was being sincere then, I don’t see why Don King will Not want BS to fight Wladimir.

Posted May 12, 2014 12:16 pm 


@

Веcаusе Wlаdimir wаnt now fight аgаinst stivеrnе аnd, thаn with pulеv!

Posted May 12, 2014 12:05 pm 


Hmmmm

Because King is involved and no sooner has he got himself a HW belt it’s all talk of “world tours” which is just a euphemism for milking the gravy train. Nothing complicated about it…

Posted May 12, 2014 12:04 pm 


TARK

What’s wrong with Wladimir fighting Pulev and Stiverne fighting Wilder??? … If the 2 favorites win they can fight each other. Jennings could fight Glazkov and you’d have the next challenger. If Fury beats Chisora you’d have the next challeger and so on. Why is this complicated?

Posted May 12, 2014 11:40 am 


Hmmmm

Yup Tark so King’s proposal for a “world tour” is just all bull I guess. Boxing is littered with cherry pickers and duckers. Bute managed it for years. Thing that pees me off is that King is back and I can’t stand that ahole.

Posted May 12, 2014 11:40 am 


Popkins

Good fight. Wlad will rule for a few more years yet though.

Posted May 12, 2014 11:39 am 


@

Wlаdimir, running аwау аgаin from fight with Pulеv!

Posted May 12, 2014 11:31 am 


TARK

Stiverne won’t have the title long. Guaranteed.

He can’t pull a George Foreman and fight the Crawford Grimsley’s of the world. That won’t work for him. Don King or no Don King he has to fight Wilder next … or be stripped of his title.

Ali and Spinks fought a rematch while pretending they were never stripped of the title… The promoters and their cohorts simply pretended Larry Holmes didn’t exist. A large portion of the public bought it.

“Who’s Larry Holmes??? … Spinks is the champ!”

Today there’s a problem with that type of action. Stiverne doesn’t have the prestige to pull that off. If Stiverne refuses to fight Wilder, and goes and fights Hasim Rahman or some other chump, it’s not going to work.

With the social media and comment boards today it’s harder to pull the wool over the public’s eyes. 40 or 50 years ago you could do that … Stiverne is DOOMED.

Posted May 12, 2014 11:28 am 


Hmmmm

Huckster the Klits have taken on anyone & everyone. Stiverne is just a pay check for King. You want to watch King suck Stiverne dry as he fights bums go ahead.

Posted May 12, 2014 11:19 am 


huckster

King does it now and its a joke. Kbros do it on the other side of the world and it is not a joke. I hope Stiverne sits on it and milks it. The Kbros did it. Stiverne can do it just as honorably. Now, Jennings-Wilder and winner gets Thompson. That is the stink Wlad did to Pulev over the IBF.

Posted May 12, 2014 11:05 am 


Hmmmm

Here we go – that vile excuse for a human being King has gotten his grubby fat mits on another HW champ. Cue the endless string of nobodies and no hopers King now lines up so Stiverne can line King’s pockets. What a fricking joke.

Posted May 12, 2014 11:02 am 


Jake Lead Rights

BS…has no boxing skill, what he has is a very heavy hand. CA was beating him but got over zealous, he stunned BS a few times but couldnt finish him off. BS has a very tough chin….It’s too bad that he won cuz no DK holds the title and he’s not gonna let it go easily…..we wont see BS fight anyone worth his salt….the title is as good as down the toilet. Most were wanting CA to win for this simple reason.

Posted May 12, 2014 9:52 am 


Xavier

Wladimir Klitschko is The RING Heavyweight Champion and the WBA/IBF/WBO/IBO Heavyweight Champion of the World. He is #1 and THE MAN. There’s no unbroken lineal link since the days of John L Sullivan anyway. Rocky Marciano retired as undefeated HW champion in 1956 for instance and Floyd Patterson and Archie Moore met for the vacant title, Marciano having already beaten Moore. Wlad didn’t want to meet his brother in a real fight. Lennox Lewis retired as WBC champ and ‘lineal’ too, but he didn’t hold all the belts, so wasn’t undisputed in that sense either. Both Vitali and Wlad were recognized as Ring Champions and until he’s beaten or retires, Wladimir is the clear and undisputed Heavyweight Champ and Number 1…

Posted May 12, 2014 9:34 am 


huckster

wilder-jennings fight for the right and then face the doorman, thompson.

Posted May 12, 2014 7:53 am 


mack

Stiverne has a puncher’s chance with anyone. I would like to see him with Wilder, and Klitschko with Pulev. When that dust clears, the winners can fight each other.

Posted May 12, 2014 7:22 am 


Septimus

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing) = BELLEND !!

Posted May 12, 2014 7:02 am 


Blitz

Wilder or Wlad would KO Stiverne

Posted May 12, 2014 5:03 am 


huckster

The King can. He saw what they doing in europe. He will do it better. Stiverne champ for next ten year. Don gets a new do.

Posted May 12, 2014 4:59 am 


ROCKY

Don King has already lined up the greatest fight of all time.

Super star George Foreman has been training hard for last few years to come out of retirement to cement his place as the truely greatest and older champion ever. There is no better challenger of that prestige. Don King knows how to match the best.

After no doubt Stiverne wins, due to him been the greatest heavyweight ever, only Ruiz will be a worthy challenger who will also be back out of retirement.

Finally, we are in for a real treat if Don King does that magic of getting Frank Bruno also out of retirement that could be a real thriller in Manilla megafight. Bruno still has beef with King after getting shafted financially over the Tyson fight.

God bless you King! Welcome back!

Posted May 12, 2014 4:24 am 


huckster

Vinny Maddalone should be next. He is in that age bracket. Stiverne milk it. It if don’t ching, don’t answer the ring. Line your ducks up. Make some bucks. Get Shannon the Cannon to make smoke.

Posted May 12, 2014 3:33 am 


huckster

Stiverne should be allowed to fight Rahman for his first defense. Let’s mirror europe.

Posted May 12, 2014 3:28 am 


huckster

They will not let the Tiger anywhere near Stiverne. Tony will take that belt away. So Tony will be stuck door keeping in USA. To keep things in order, Jennings – Wilder need to see Tony first before they fight Stiverne. Tony got to make a living.

Posted May 12, 2014 3:26 am 


aj1575

The good thing now is, the HW division gets a little shaken up with a titleholder not named Klitschlo. The bad thing is, that one title is now in Don Kings hands. Don will try to protect this belt as long as possible. So Stiverne won’t fight Wlad nor Wilder next; against Wlad he would lose the belt for sure, and Wilder is also also quite dangerous. So Don will opt for another opponent first, then comes Wilder as the mandatory, if Stiverne wins that one, Don will try to put in another fight before B-Ware has to face Wlad. So it will take some time until the title is unified.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:50 am 


Cole

Vitali was 42. It was time to retire anyway. Quit milking it, you’re rich enough.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:26 am 


anonymous

Bottom line is, Lewis didn’t want a rematch.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:25 am 


TARK

He didn’t get his faced smashed. His face was slashed … With the palm of Lewis’s right glove while Vitali was in a headlock.

That’s why the fight goes to the scorecards and Klitschko wins by unanimous technical decision. Because Vitali was winning the fight on all cards and foul blows caused the cuts you ignorant ass.

Posted May 12, 2014 2:20 am 


Nameless

Tark knows fk all. Lewis was heavy and blowing after one rd. vitali bribed himself into the fight and got his face smashed in then lied moaned and stomped around like a child….going on to have a dull career and eventually getting his dr to bail him out of his last fight

Posted May 12, 2014 12:51 am 


TARK

Anonymous, don’t make stupid arguments. Lewis is responsible for his own conditioning and training. If he gets KTFO he’s responsible.

Kirk Johnson wasn’t “crap.” He was a top rated heavyweight contender who Lewis trained very hard for. Kirk Johnson was never defeated on points in his entire career. He was only stopped once in his entire career—by Vitali Klitschko in 2 rounds. Not exactly a record of somebody who’s a crap fighter.

Kirk Johnson’s only other loss was a DQ against John Ruiz for what commentators said was a borderline punch. “That was not even a low blow in my opinion, and certainly not egregiously enough to cause a DQ” is how Emmanuel Steward put it. During the fight Johnson was deliberately thrown down, head butted, and cursed at by John Ruiz. Referee Joe Cortez took no points from Ruiz—but threatening to disqualify him. I don’t believe Ruiz took the threat seriously because it was almost as if Cortez was winking at him as he said it and Ruiz kept fouling.

Lewis took Kirk Johnson very seriously because he had experience in NOT taking someone seriously. He learned a great lesson from that.

Posted May 12, 2014 12:06 am 


Big Martha Stanford

I love you Arreola !!! Your my new love !

Posted May 12, 2014 12:00 am 


Gwent

Stiverne may yet tumble the tables at a few parties

Posted May 11, 2014 11:51 pm 


Gwent

Well that was a truly boring argument

Posted May 11, 2014 11:50 pm 


mephisto

enough, already.

Posted May 11, 2014 11:27 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

OctaMom Jomar ChatWoman:

Follow the directions below and go watch the video evidence.
And I don’t want to hear another GD peep out of you, son, until you’ve reviewed all the evidence and facts. So shut your gaping p0le h0le and GTFOH until you’ve taken the time to educate yourself on this subject and are qualified to comment. Because TARK and BEARS have been running circles around your lame, feeble arguments and making you look like a total dumb@$$ who doesn’t know j@cksh*t about the science.

Get it, got it, good!

Posted May 11, 2014 11:19 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Go to YouTube and search for “Vitali Klitschko Cut Controversy”

Watch the slow-motion EVIDENCE that proves beyond any reasonable doubt that VK’s cut was caused by the thumb and inside edge of LLs glove.

Watch closely how LL whips his right hand in an outward bowing motion while grazing VK’s eye with his thumb. LL never threw any of his right-hand punches with that same outward bowing motion. That’s evidence that the thumb strike was intentional and NO accident. Because when you want to thumb a guy, you whip your punch away from his head while making contact. The proof is in the pudding! Accept the TRUTH and live with it!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 11:10 pm 


Anonymouse

Tark, Lewis was NOT in top condition for Vitali. He hadnt fought in a year, he had trained for 6ft 2″ Kirk Johnson, who was CRAP, and Lewis knew it would be a short nights work. Lewis was flat, slow and out of condition, and facing a 6ft 8″ fighter who was much better, faster and totally different to Kirk Johnson. You can shuck’n Jive as much as you like, but theyre the facts. Also Lewis loss to Rahman wasnt a reflection on how good Rahman was, and by extension Maskaev and Kirk Johnson, but how bad Lewis was that night, that was another fight Lewis was out of shape for. You know that damned well lol

Posted May 11, 2014 11:09 pm 


Amoe

Bears I here your point but it’s only an opinion I think Lennox would have won the fight if it kept going Lennox was landing the harder blows and was a harder puncher by miles vitali did a damn good job but it’s over it was a good classic bout . Just for the record vitali is still an all time great heavyweight and vlad

Posted May 11, 2014 11:00 pm 


BEARS

even without all the facts dropped on u. just winning on a cut in and of itself when your getting a$$ wooped is weak as hell.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:49 pm 


BEARS

nameless misses sredmond.

deal with the reality of the fight son. a fight improperly ruled in lennoxs favor on cuts he was loosing and getting his shorts boxed off. then boo’ed. then tryingto fight anyone not named klitschko, then being firced into what must have been a demoralizing retirement. smells like FEAR to me. looks like it too. if u wanna be subjective and act like all there is to be said about this fight and what surrounded it was “tko 6″ by all means. but do not expect anyone else to blindly lick lennox”s a$$ along with u. we do not lick a$$ we just try to be objective. we have never had the taste if a$$ in our mouth unlike nameless and octavious, we just know we dont like it. but thats just us

Posted May 11, 2014 10:43 pm 


Nameless

Tko 6 – after he said it was a headbutt he said he trained for this fight for years and was on video in 2000 talking about lewis. It was a bribe that got him the fight anyway and it ended tko6 – deal with it

Posted May 11, 2014 10:32 pm 


BEARS

some people see what they wanna see man. they are subjective, and they are not the ones who are revered around here. objective and honest and real fight fans are revered around here.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:31 pm 


BEARS

the history books? yeah they are filled with stats and fight tape son. and it tells the story we have told u. lennox got RETIRED BY VITALY. lennox never got old never slowed down never looked diminished. he just smoked in the boxgame by one dude. lennox would have beaten anyone not named klitschko

Posted May 11, 2014 10:22 pm 


BEARS

hey nutsack citaly was not trying to fight anyone not named stieverne like lennox tried to fight anyone not named klitschko. epic fail at drawing parrallels. you must have thought it was “racism” u phukn schmuck

Posted May 11, 2014 10:19 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Don’t worry….The history books will show that he almost beat Lennox…So there you have it….YOUR MORAL VICTORY :) Hip Hip Hooray!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 9:46 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I know Tark….Because I’m not buying your CONSPIRACY THEORY…FOH

Posted May 11, 2014 9:43 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

No one man is bigger than boxing where others careers should be stalled just because they have aspirations outside of boxing…He should have been held to the same rules as Lennox and others…….

Posted May 11, 2014 9:42 pm 


TARK

Octavius Jomar Chatman…, The only one selling BS is you.

Posted May 11, 2014 9:41 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

BS…..Try again….All I ever heard about Vitali during that time was his concerns about what was going on in his HOMELAND….Had nothing to do with no injuries……He didn’t do no favor for no Stiverne…..That’s a crock of BS!!!! It was only a ploy to continue to keep him and his brother reigning at the same time…That has always been their agenda!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 9:41 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

No way is Arreola holding any dibs on Number one; he has loss two fights in a row and to the same man at that…That number one spot is going to Wilder…WATCH!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 9:38 pm 


TARK

Vitali fully intended to defend his title against Stiverne… He had a hand injury that didn’t heal. He got a couple extensions… Finally he didn’t want to hold Stiverne up anymore, so he gave up the title and retired saying, “There is no chance that I will return to professional boxing, as a boxer in the ring, in this lifetime.”

Posted May 11, 2014 9:38 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Post under different aliases to give credence to your arguments….Nice JOB just like the BS your selling!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 9:34 pm 


Pratt

Arreola may still claim dibs on number one mandatory in WBC unless he looses a few rungs on the ladder because of this loss. If he does go down a few rungs then Wilder rises to number one mandatory in WBC. But since Stiverne wins the Belt in 2014 he will not face a mandatory until 2015. And King can milk the crap out of that until OCT-NOV of 2015. K-Bros will NEVER see a shot at the WBC unless they had a paper contract on the WBC Title shot. Stiverne will face cruisers and maybe even Ruiz before Fall of 2015 comes around..
And by the way, I saw the Klit/Lewis live Satellite and immediately saw the palm job Lewis did on Vitali’s already open cut. In the old days it was called a lace job, raking the palm and laces upward across the opponents face from the chin to the forehead. Lewis did a very nice job of the LACE JOB on Vitali’s face when Lewis had Vit on the ropes and was holding him and LACED him and opened the cut to the horrendous wound it then became. The fight was then stopped. Tark and Bears and Lion King are correct.

Posted May 11, 2014 9:31 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

The same HONEST WBC made those demands of Lennox; but Vitali got EXTENSION AFTER EXTENSION to decide what he wanted to do…..Interesting……..

Posted May 11, 2014 9:30 pm 


TARK

All the advantages were with Lewis.. He was training for an othodox boxer with a fast jab and good right counter.. He was trainng for the number 2 rated contender.. He was training for a guy who could potentially beat him if he was off his game and Johnson was on his game.

Remember Johnson easily KO’d Oleg Maskaev before Maskaev knocked Hasim Rahman out twice.. Rahman took Lewis out with a shot..

The deal is Vitali had to shift gears to a much greater degree than Lewis… Vitali was training for a tune up that was a 2 round job at best… You don’t hire the world’s best sparring partners and camp personell for that.

Besides… Lewis already had them in his camp so they weren’t available.

Posted May 11, 2014 9:28 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Bear…I remembered all that….And at the time I was highly upset with him for stalling; but its been done before he was the first and damn sure wasn’t the last….Like I said earlier; that’s why Stiverne sat around for a year; waiting for a certain someone to give him a shot at the title but it did not happen….My how time repeats itself……

Posted May 11, 2014 9:27 pm 


BEARS

lennox looked horrible vs vitaly. i make no bones about it. lennox got outlanded literally every round. lennox could do nothing with his range like he did EVERY other opponent. he had to close the gap and work off the clinch and hold and hit for the majority of his work. lennox looked like utter a$$. dodged vitaly and put everything he could between himself and a rematch with vitaly demanding independent dr’s clear vitaly, demanding vitaly fight other opponents, then tryingto fight people like mike tyson, until finally wbc told lennox strait up, u try to fight anyone else like u are doing now instead of vitaly u get stripped. lennox immediately retired willing to fight anyone not named klitschko. whats up son?

Posted May 11, 2014 9:22 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Lennox may have been training but the fact still remains they had TWO WEEKS to get ready for each other…Part of training is working on tactics to expose your opponent flaws….If Lennox trained for weeks and months for Johnson….How was that an advantage for him if he had to switch up at the last minute and get ready for Vitali???? Lennox doesn’t even get credit for even SAVING THE DATE…he could have easily just scrapped the fight altogether but he didn’t!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 9:20 pm 


TARK

nameless you’re a nut case… You don’t train for years for ANY fight… You train for one fight at a time.

You train a lot differently for a Heavyweight Championship fight than you do to fight some 12th rated contender who is just a keep busy type of opponent.

With a Heavyweight Championship Fight you more attention to camp facilities, sparring partners, and camp personell… You go whole hog for a Heavyweight Championship Fight… It one of the most valuable things out there so you do your damnest to be in perfect physical and mental condition every time out.

That doesn’t mean you turn down a fight on less than 2 weeks notice that’s the opportunity of a life time… It doesn’t mean you’re going to be as ready as you could or should be if you’d been training for months for a title fight like Lewis was.

Posted May 11, 2014 9:15 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

He got a moral victory; and it’s pretty much the highlight of his career….The night “he almost beat Lennox”

Posted May 11, 2014 9:13 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

And that’s even if Lennox truly trained because he looked winded in between those rounds….I don’t believe he did. His conditioning was HORRIBLE…His fault; but it is what it is….

Posted May 11, 2014 9:11 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

The fact still remains that they were both on a level playing field.. He had two weeks to train for Lennox and Lennox had two weeks to train for him; because he was not his original opponent….It was Johnson!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 9:09 pm 


BEARS

nameless actually took that line literally? bahahahahahah

as if vitaly and sdunek were training for lennox for years. training for lennox in all 30 some odd previous bouts that were not with lennox.

thats dense dude even for u

Posted May 11, 2014 9:05 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@nameless…I remember that as well; also Lennox was at a disadvantage too because he was originally training to fight Kirk Johnson who pulled out at the last minute due to an injury….

Posted May 11, 2014 9:04 pm 


nameless

Tardk – Vitali said he trained for years for that fight

Posted May 11, 2014 8:55 pm 


D

“stiverne should avoid both wilder and wlad”

why would he do that? he’s only in the game to make money. those are the money fights he’s finally getting after years of work and sweat. is he supposed to fight denis boytsov?

Posted May 11, 2014 8:35 pm 


Amoe

Vlad did good against Lewis vlad fought his heart out he was winning but he wouldn’t have made it to 12 with Lewis. Watch Holyfield Lewis 2 vlads never been the first to go to war with lennox

Posted May 11, 2014 8:34 pm 


badger

stiverne is signed by don king. good for him.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:31 pm 


RapidFire

Vitali’s eye was cut in the Lewis fight..conditioning had nothing to do with his loss. Stiverne should avoid both Wilder and Wlad. Both of them would do some serious damage simply because of strength and height.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:29 pm 


TARK

Vitali had less than 2 weeks to train for a Heavyweight Championship fight… Lewis had months to prepare for a Heavyweight Championship fight…

Who should be in better condition???

Posted May 11, 2014 8:22 pm 


TARK

Octavius Jomar Chatman.. “Ok….Yes he did foul…But what does that have to do with that cut when it was caused by a PUNCH….Not a DAMN THING…..”

Damned right it does… A foul punch doesn’t count.. Any foul that contributes to a cut that stops a fight means the fight goes to the scorecards.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:18 pm 


TARK

Lewis was in perfect condition for Vitali… Lewis got bigger and stronger throughout his career… He averaged over 250 for his last 6 fights… He was doing a lot of strength training which made him bigger and stronger and he punched much harder… Wladimir is also getting bigger and better as he gets older… He says he’s better at 38 than he ever was.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:15 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Ok….Yes he did foul…But what does that have to do with that cut when it was caused by a PUNCH….Not a DAMN THING…..

Posted May 11, 2014 8:14 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Keep talking Tark….But let me tell you something….I have been watching boxing for a VERY LONG TIME….I have seen fighters THUMBED…Most of which are ACCIDENTAL…And they do not cause CUTS….They IMPAIR the fighter’s VISION!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 8:12 pm 


TARK

The big slash on the cheek in the same direction as the other slashes also came in that 3rd round clinch when Lewis held, hit, and slashed with the palm of his right glove while holding Vitali in a headlock with his left arm.

Good… You finally admit Lewis was a fouler.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:10 pm 


TARK

Octavius You know the overhand right was the thumb strike… That caused a small nick… The two huge slashes on Vitali’s left eyelid came during the clinch when Lewis held, hit, and slashed with the palm of his glove… That’s when the blood spurted out.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:08 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Michael Grant bent down like a dummy and Lennox held him there and hit him with a wicked uppercut…Funny thing about all of this is Lennox was OUT OF SHAPE for that fight with Vitali and your boy still wasn’t able to put him away….When Lewis pulled that same stunt with Rahman; Hasim took advantage of it and finished him off……

Posted May 11, 2014 8:07 pm 


TARK

You can also watch Lewis’s fight with Michael Grant… Lewis didn’t need to foul to beat Grant but he sure did… In the first round he held Grant’s head and hit him numerous times… He also knocked him out with a punch while he was holding and hitting… The HBO commentators even talked about… Lewis was interviewed after the fight and said, “I was trying to hold his head still” and grinned like an ape.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:05 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

That cut happened at the VERY BEGINNING OF THE THIRD ROUND…Lennox came out from his corner and threw an OVERHAND RIGHT at Vitali and that is the punch that opened him up…After that he went for the kill and started roughing him up….STOP IT!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 8:03 pm 


TARK

You know damned well that when the cut happend Jim Lampley talked about Lewis’s “rough stuff” which was the holding and hitting that happened in that 3rd round clinch just after the thumb strike… That’s when the blood spurted out… Foreman didn’t start complaining about the holding and hitting untll much later.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:01 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

When George said that dumb crap; Merchant chimed in and corrected him and said if you have a free hand and your opponent is HOLDING YOU; you are allowed to use it.

Posted May 11, 2014 8:01 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

You can’t even stay on topic…Are we talking about Lennox and Vitali or do you want to talk about Guerrero and Berto…Berto got his ass kicked fair and square dude stop it….Moret did not call no foul with that cut because there was no foul….TWIST and turn it all you want; it is what it is …..

Posted May 11, 2014 8:00 pm 


TARK

Octavius.., “If he warned him of palming and your implying that’s what caused that cut; don’t you think he would have ruled that a DELIBERATE FOUL and took away points or disqualified”

Are you kidding me???? Moret didn’t call over 100 fouls in the Guerrero-Berto fight… Don’t you think it’s possible that Guerrero and Lewis KNEW no fouls would be called… He issued repeated warnings but never called a foul.

Posted May 11, 2014 7:58 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark….I watched the fight…Lennox was holding and hitting Vitali at one point in the fight and Foreman took note of it and complained about it; but that is NOT what caused that CUT!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:56 pm 


TARK

Octavius… You’re the fool… You won’t admit you’re wrong when the evidence is 100000000 miles deep. Why would the referee warn Lewis for fouling if he never fouled???

Why would the commentators say Lewis is holding and hitting if he wasn’t???

You can see plain as day on the video that Lewis was fouling so are you telling me you’re blind and deaf???

Posted May 11, 2014 7:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Can you tell me what it is your smoking or popping because I want to warn the ones I love of it……It’s got you going dude!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

When did he warn him of Palming….He never warned him of that….And if he warned him of palming and your implying that’s what caused that cut; don’t you think he would have ruled that a DELIBERATE FOUL and took away points or disqualified him????? DUDE STOP IT!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:53 pm 


TARK

And you never answer questions you don’t want to answer… Why did Moret warn Lewis for flagrantly palming Lewis in the face??? If Lewis didn’t foul why would he warn him???

Posted May 11, 2014 7:51 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

He would tell me the TRUTH because I’m SPECIAL RIGHT….But he would not REVEAL THIS “TRUTH” to the rest of the WORLD……You are a FOOL…You know that right?????

Posted May 11, 2014 7:49 pm 


TARK

Octavius.., You never really watched the fight… If you watched that clinch and say Lewis didn’t engage in holding and hitting you’re a liar..

Posted May 11, 2014 7:49 pm 


TARK

He would tell you the truth if you asked him… He’s not a complainer, but if you asked him he would tell you he was fouled … because he WAS fouled. He’s not going to lie.

Posted May 11, 2014 7:47 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Your so full of venom…You lose your ability to READ…If a CUT is not called ACCIDENTAL; it is therefore ruled LEGITIMATE BECAUSE IT HAPPENED WITH A LEGAL PUNCH….Moret NEVER called that cut a FOUL because it WASN’T A FOUL……Even the replay shows that…Oh wait….that was HBO replay…THAT DOES COUNT…I better use your video….LMMFAO!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:46 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

“Vitali is not a guy who would complain about injustices in the ring”= CONTRADICTION!!!!! So why would he tell me that???? Stop it already dude…..And you are suppose to be schooling me….LMMFAO!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:44 pm 


TARK

Octavius.., “If a cut is not called by the referee as ACCIDENTAL; it is therefore considered LEGAL”

You’re full of BS. Many times referees have called deliberate headbutts, and illegal blows, and ruled that the cuts were caused by them. Therefore when the fight ended due to the cut they went to the scorecards. It doesn’t only happen when the contact is accidental.

Posted May 11, 2014 7:43 pm 


TARK

Why don’t you ask Vitali yourself if you need his confirmation. I’m sure he’ll tell you he was fouled.

Lewis fouled Vitali often… He even threw a left hook way after the bell ended round 6… The referee warned Lewis for fouling… The HBO commentators said Lewis was fouling… The video proves Lewis was fouling… What more do you need????????

Posted May 11, 2014 7:38 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Boxing has rules for a reason..If a cut is not called by the referee as ACCIDENTAL; it is therefore considered LEGAL BY A PUNCH…If the fight is stopped due to that cut; YOUR OPPONENT WINS BY TKO……Call it INJURY or whatever…It is what it is…..

Posted May 11, 2014 7:38 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Come to think about it; what you just said is COMPLAINING….How can he say he was never really beat???? Whether the fight is due to injury OR A CUT DUE TO A PUNCH; you still LOSE….That’s complaining and an EXCUSE…There are several ways a fight can be stopped…..

Posted May 11, 2014 7:35 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

That is BS Tark….What he was basically saying is that fight should have NEVER BEEN STOPPED….Vitali is a warrior and did not want to be viewed as a quitter as he previously was viewed as due to his not wanting to fight after the arm injury in the fight with Byrd….Those statements had NOTHING to do with him implying he was FOULED…If he was FOULED he would have said so…..

Posted May 11, 2014 7:32 pm 


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Posted May 11, 2014 7:31 pm 


TARK

Vitali is not a guy to complain about injustices in the ring.

Although he did say he was beating Lewis and should have won the fight… and said, “Nobody ever really beat me. Nobody ever outboxed me. I only lost because of injuries.. I would have beaten Lewis under any other circumstances.. I don’t think the referee did a good job.” I saw that in a video where he was being interviewed with Dereck Chisora.”

Posted May 11, 2014 7:27 pm 


TARK

Octavius.., “The ref was suppose to watch your YOUTUBE VIDEO or go to slow motion replay and get it right”

No… He was supposed to call fouls that he saw, such as his very tepid warning to Lewis not to palm Vitali in the face… Those fouls contributed to the cuts but the referee refused to call any fouls.

The referee was Lou Moret… the same referee who handled the Guerrero-Berto fight… There were more than 100 fouls committed in that fight buy Moret didn’t call one.

As Guerrero was holding Berto’s head with his left glove and hitting him with his right Max Kellerman yelled, “SHADES OF LENNOX LEWIS!!!” to laugher from the other HBO commentators.. That was a reference to Lewis doing the same thing in the Vitali and Grant fights.

Posted May 11, 2014 7:19 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Tark…On a serious note…You never answered my question…Where is there a DOCUMENTED VIDEO of VITALI ever saying that Lennox cut him with the palm of his gloves..Can you please tell me where can I find that video???Please!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:08 pm 


sean p h

He wont be fighting wlad. Don king will milk his fighter. Wlad ko stevern 9 rounds. Wilder perez jennings fury helanius.

Posted May 11, 2014 7:03 pm 


WTF

I’m just f***** with you….LMFAO!!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 7:00 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

You totally missed my SARCASM….I know that; but there is PROOF that Douglas was given at least 14 seconds….But Mike still LOSS….But I guess the same doesn’t apply to the Vitali-Lennox situation….The ref was suppose to watch your YOUTUBE VIDEO or go to slow motion replay and get it right…..LMFAO!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:59 pm 


TARK

Douglas beat Tyson because you’re only out on the referee’s count… Douglas could only watch the referee’s count… He wasn’t looking at a stopwatch.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:57 pm 


Big Martha Stanford

I’m starting to fall in love with Arreola. Kisses to you honey !

Posted May 11, 2014 6:56 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark….I’m a supporter of THE SPORT…..Speak for yourself!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

So we just make up winners….Well since that is the case…I say Tyson never loss to Douglas because of the long count in the ninth round :) I’m just f***** with you….LMFAO!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:53 pm 


TARK

NOBODY can deny that Vitali was ahead on all scorecards.. When anything but illegal punches contributed to cuts you go to the scorecards.

Therefore… since Vitali was winning the fight on all scorecards… He wins a unanimous technical decision.

Not every fight in Boxing History is the official winner the real winner.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:50 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark…I OWN the fight…Have had it for YEARS…The third round starts; Lennox comes out and throws an OVERHAND RIGHT; and they clinch each other….Soon as the ref breaks them….You can clearly see the blood flowing from the CORNER of Vitali’s eye…..I’ve watched the slow motion REPLAY….Same thing……

Posted May 11, 2014 6:49 pm 


TARK

The fight is on youtube… Study the 3rd round… That’s when all the cuts occured. You’ll see they all came from illegal strikes and the major slashes came from palm slashes while Lewis had Vitali in a headlock with his left arm while slashing his face with the palm of his right glove.

That’s when all the blood spurted out like a fountain.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:46 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Screwy….That’s how it goes….Your suppose to just accept their BS…How dare you holler INJUSTICE…The NERVE OF YOU!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:46 pm 


screwy louie

Mr bear please stop using that annoying over used term race card to avert my point.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:41 pm 


TARK

Anybody who says they studied the video closely and didn’t see Lewis’s fouling… or that legal punches slashed open these cuts… is either blind or they don’t want to see the truth… that overhand right was a thumb strike… all those other cuts on the eye were slashed open immediately afterward as Lewis engaged in holding and hitting..

That’s a foul on boxing… You can’t hold somebody in a headlock and hit him with a legal portion of your glove… You certainly aren’t allowed to slash his face open with the palm of your glove.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:39 pm 


OneChampToRuleThemAll

Apparently i heard Lennox had ground glass put into his gloves after being inspired by the film Kickboxer,oh wait,that’s my vivid imagination,it was just a lovely right hand that the young,in his prime Vitali couldn’t get out of the way of,Fat,slow,on the turn Lennox=still had to much for young,prime, PED monster

Posted May 11, 2014 6:38 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

You guys are some hating fools….I’ve watched the fight; and that CUT WAS “INITIATED” with a PUNCH in the start of the 3rd round….Believe what you want….It changes NOTHING the fight was stopped due to the severity of the cut and Lennox won BY TKO!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:37 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

And that’s still a STUPID STATEMENT because it can happen. Lennox is a puncher; Vitali is HUMAN!!!! He has skin just like any other human and if it gets hit enough; especially on the corner of the eye where there is a sharp bone which starts the eye socket; YOU CAN BE CUT!!!!!! What part of that do you have a hard time UNDERSTANDING?????

Posted May 11, 2014 6:35 pm 


TARK

Octavius…, All you have to do is study the video record and you will see Lewis’s fouling… I’m not making it up… Lewis fouled Vitali with impunity.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:34 pm 


BEARS

no headlock? clearly you didnt watch the fight so there is nothing leftto discuss

Posted May 11, 2014 6:33 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I find it strange that all of you have these theories as to way that cut happen but there is NO INTERVIEW or VIDEO we the man himself in it (VITALI) saying he was cut due to a thumb or gloves rubbing his skin or none of that nonsense….It happened to him; but you all know better than him what happened….LMFAO!!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:33 pm 


TARK

I NEVER said Lewis didn’t cut anyone else but Vitali

You didn’t read my post.. I said he never won any other fight on cuts, and that Vitali never suffered a threatening cut.

He’s NOT a bleeder.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:32 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

The cut was opened with a PUNCH!!!!! Vitali’s corner is the stupid ones because if they were smart; they would have protested that the cut was due to a headbutt or all this nonsense you are trying to sell. Vitali nor his corner NEVER IMPLIED THAT so why are you??????

Posted May 11, 2014 6:31 pm 


TARK

Octavius… “soon as the third round started Lennox came out and landed an OVER HAND RIGHT; and soon as that punch landed Vitali eye started bleeding”

That was the thumb strike… Watch it closely… That was the thumb strike that opened the initial nick… Then Lewis pulled Vitali into a clinch.. put a headlock on him.. and slashed his face open with the palm of his right glove.

That’s a double foul… Holding and hitting… and striking with an illegal surface of the glove.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:29 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark…TELL ME SOMETHING I DON’T KNOW…Did I not say that Tyson’s cut WAS NOT AS SEVERE as Vitali’s cuts…Why do you keep repeating me as if I don’t already know that AND I JUST SAID IT…My point AGAIN was to show that your analogy of LENNOX “NEVER” cutting any other fighter WAS WRONG!!!! DAMN…..

Posted May 11, 2014 6:28 pm 


TARK

Octavius.., Tyson didn’t have a threatening cut.. So it’s apples and oranges.. His face and eyes was badly swollen and you open nicks in that situation.

Vitali’s eyes weren’t swollen and his cheek wasn’t swollen… they were gashed and slashed open with the palm of Lewis’s glove, and he also rubbed his head and hair into the wounds.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:25 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark; like I said; we were watching two different fights….As soon as the third round started Lennox came out and landed an OVER HAND RIGHT; and soon as that punch landed Vitali eye started bleeding ; NOT HIS CHEEK his eye. In between rounds three and four when the cameras were in Vitali’s corner you can clearly see discoloration on his cheek SO IT COMES AS NO SURPRISE THAT that area was busted open as well…..The slow motion replayed showed that; there was no HEADLOCK or none of that nonsense your talking about; that cut was opened by A PUNCH and it just got worse because they allowed the fight to CONTINUE!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:24 pm 


Assyrian God

The reasons why everybody wants to fight Stiverne are; A] He is a far easier route to a title than Wlad, B] A fair few fighters would have a great chance of beating him. These include; Fury, Pulev, Povetkin, Haye (if he fights again), Glazkov, Chisora, Helenius, Browne, Takam, Perez, Vitali (if he fights again), Cunningham, Hammer, Charr, Teper, Huck…even the ageing duo of Thompson and Adamek, and the fragile chinned duo of Price and Wilder, though Wilder is the least deserving of those mentioned.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:23 pm 


BEARS

vitaly got cut by lennoxs classic cheat move he used even in his first title fight against tucker and ref joe cortez jumped his a$$ for it. simply look at vitalys face after round two no marks or signs of bein in a fight. hbo shows a closeup of vitaly after round 2. then its desperation time in lennoxs corner. then lennox comes out throwing wildly barely landing. they clinch and in that clinch lennox holds vitalys head with his left forearm and hand and strafes him with the under side of the glove. blood literally spurts out. this is easily seen when you do a close up of the hit. actually skysports does do it so if u find the skysports recording of vitaly vs lennox on you tube rather than the hbo, they pretty much show you.

TARK AND LIONKINGs boxing knowledge runs circles around yours dude

Posted May 11, 2014 6:20 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“I am not a believer in giving a guy a round just based off of ONE GOOD SHOT.” I have to agree with you on that, Octavius, because neither am I. That’s why I can totally understand if many gave round 1 to CA or scored it as an even round. I gave round 1 to BS, but feel that it’s somewhat of a generous gift on my part.

BEARS is absolutely right about last night’s fight. I’m sure his score is almost identical to mine going into the 6th. BS was being outboxed and dominated on the cards. The one judge who had BS ahead must have been paid off by King or had his head totally up his @$$.

I have go leave now and go out for Mother’s Day dinner. So happy Mother’s Day MFers!!! lmao

Posted May 11, 2014 6:18 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Eric-Suede – Yes my friend you are right. I give Bermane Stiverne his credit for the victory over Chris Arreola. I also give him credit for the cat that it is true that he wanted to fight Vitali Klitschko for that WBC title belt.

And yes it is true that he fought the opponent WBC would put him there to fight against for the vacant WBC title AND that he had nothing to do with that choise of opponent so of course he cant be blaimed.

When bringing up Lewis-Klitschko, yes that is true that Vitali wanted to fight for the title a 2nd time BUT Lewis had alreadsy done all and had nothing more to his legacy to prove and father time had catched up on him at age 38 like many great heavyweights and boxers alike.

Vitali however had proved he was a right m,an to take up the vacant title and also he fought an worthy opponent in WBO world heavyweight champion Corrie “The Sniper” Sanders who in his turn came from winning his title in an big KO upset boxing match against the next heavyweight sensation Wladimir Klitschko and all is well so far.

Sanders was a major title champ BUT was forced to vacate the WBO world title if he desired to fight against Vitali Klitschko and for the now vacant WBC title and the rest is history.

The point is here that back then it was the best match-up to be made for the moment and no one complained for that fight match-up.
Chris Arreola however never won his right to fight for that vacant title and Don King is VERY known for not wanting his fighters to fight against a champion who dont have a contract on and that is the case AGAIN here and that will make Bermane Stiverne look like a paper champion.

I belive he is tallented enough to win good fights and all but he can’t have Don King to rule his show or else he will end up like a paper champion who only fights hand picked opponents away from being a risky opponent.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:18 pm 


TARK

“Jumping to the conclusion that Lennox did something dirty!”

It’s not a conclusion I jumped to. I studied the video record extremely carefully for a long time… Lewis palmed Vitali directly in the face. Lewis threw a deliberate thumb strike to nudge open the first nick. Lewis had Vitali in a headlock and slashed him with the palm of his right glove.

It’s all in the video record as plain as day.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:17 pm 


Tony TT Galento

Didnt Lewis also damage Gary Mason’s eye???

Posted May 11, 2014 6:17 pm 


BEARS

who do you think screwy lou is an alt for here? its funny how theres always a black guy pulling the race card lime screwy lou. no merit at all whatsoever with these turds accusations. i think some of these turds are use to getting somewhere in society by playing that card so much so it comes out in their posts.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:14 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I’m talking about around his EYE Tark….Please don’t try and insult my intelligence with a bunch of BS dude….The man got cut by a punch….Lennox is a BIG PUNCHER; so it is possible…

Posted May 11, 2014 6:14 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark….Did you even bother to read what I wrote…..You said in a previous statement that Lennox was NOT KNOWN for cutting fighters….I simply showed where he in FACT did CUT ANOTHER FIGHTER….Nobody said anything about the fight being stopped on cuts; I even went as far as stating that Mike was worn down and HIS CUT WAS NOT AS BAD as Lennox cut; basically the stoppages were for TWO DIFFERENT REASONS!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:12 pm 


BEARS

lionking is right. obviously, vitaly retired lennox. lennox tried fighting other people but was told by the wbc u fight vitaly or your getting stripped. he retired right after he was told that.

lionking is also right about stieverne vs arreola. arreola was out boxing him bigtime. i would say dominating the boxing. stieverne landed some good shots here and there but arreola was winning everything about the fight until he was hurt by one shot.

stieverne looked hurt at times for sure. i dont buy the goal was to let arreola tee off on him trap him in the corners and waylay him. stievernes own corner got stressed out and yelled at him to stay away from ropes and corners so anyone claiming there was some kind of “rope a dope” going on dont know what the hell they are talking about. stivierne just looks like a dude with a punches chance to me. nothing special.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:11 pm 


screwy louie

Squared circle, I’ve been reading your comments for the last couple of days. It’s hilarious how predictably anti-black they are. I’m mean I’ll really lol because I know what’s coming. I’m sure in the most eloquent way you’re going to say how wrong I am because your posts always come across as intelligent. Then emotion rears it’s ugly head.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:11 pm 


TARK

Otavius.., “How do you know if Vitali did not have soft scar tissue going on there….We are talking about professional boxing here.” LMFAO

You DON’T have scar tissue on your cheek.. Vitali’s left cheek was slashed wide open in the same direction as the slashes on his left eye… He needed plastic surgery… You don’t get slashes like that with clean punches.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:11 pm 


TARK

Octavius…, Lewis beat the living crap out of Tyson every round.. Tyson didn’t have ANY cuts that threatened to stop the fight.. The beating Tyson was taking threatened to stop it.. I would not have allowed Tyson to come out for the final round.

Vitali wasn’t taking a beating… and all those major cuts happened within a minute of the 3rd round… Lewis was desperate… He lost the first 2 rounds and was almost knocked out … He had to turn the fight around and he started fouling like crazy.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:08 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark….How do you know if Vitali did not have soft scar tissue going on there….We are talking about professional boxing here. Anything can happen…He could have been cut previously in camp or something unbeknownst to any of us and by Lennox hitting that area; it reopened….All of these things can be possibilities without us jumping to the conclusion that Lennox did something dirty!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 6:07 pm 


TARK

Okay… I meant to say Oleg Maskaev, not Oleg Chagaev.. Maskaev knocked Rahman out twice and Rahman knocked Lewis out. Sam Peter easily beat Maskaev. Peter was a hard hitter but couldn’t box worth a damn.

Hard punches don’t usually open cuts on somebody who’s not a bleeder… Certainly not 3 HUGE slashes that are all ripped in the same direction with one huge slash on Vitali’s cheek.. What generally causes cuts are headbutts and illegal strikes with areas of the glove you’re not allowed to hit, cuff, or rake with.

Posted May 11, 2014 6:03 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Square…I’m sorry but that argument makes absolutely no sense to me..Lennox has cut folks before; he had Mike cut just in his previous fight; but the fight was stopped due to him wearing him down and I might add Mike’s cut was not as SEVERE as the cut he gave Vitali…..

Posted May 11, 2014 6:02 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Then we judge fights differently; I guess that’s why folks are always upset about scoring because we view things differently. To each his own….Chris was busy with his jab; had Stiverne on the ropes and was giving him the business. Every now and then Stiverne would get in one good shot; and that’s all it takes to win a round??? Sorry we look at things differently….

Posted May 11, 2014 5:59 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Lewis never sliced up one of his victims faces like that. And that alone tells us a lot. Some boxers slice guys up regularly. Lewis was not one of those types of punchers. Just adds more weight to the insurmountable evidence that LL opened up that big cut with thumb strike and made it much worse by raking that eye with the palm of his glove. The slow-motion footage from that angle is undisputable evidence.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:56 pm 


TARK

Octavius.. “I am not a believer in giving a guy a round just based off of ONE GOOD SHOT”

I AM… One good shot can do a lot more damage than 30 feather fisted punches. You can’t give a guy rounds based on landing punches that are doing nothing when he gets badly hurt.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Even if what you are saying is true Square…I still feel the video is bogus because it implies that Lennox DELIBERATELY tried to thumb him; and that is NOT what I saw. I saw a punch thrown….I have seen fighters vision IMPAIRED by being thumb; BUT NEVER did they suffer a cut because of a “THUMB”. Vitali did not react like a fighter who just got THUMBED!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:53 pm 


Shane

I would laugh my ass of if Vitali jumped in right now as it is his right. Beat the snot out of BS and take it back away from King. I saw last night a slow fat guy with a punch who is shorter. It would resemble the match with Arreola. Slow beating. Arreola got sparked because he was punched out. Arreola is worn since Vitali beat him. BS isn’t as good as the one that fought Vitali. Heads would explode.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:51 pm 


TARK

Reality… You’re full of crap… Watch the fight closely and it’s easy to see all the fouling by Lewis that slashed open the cuts… Lewis never cut anyone else like that in his life and Vitali never suffered ANY threatening cuts before or since in his life.

BTW… Sam Peter punched as hard or harder than Lewis… Peter knocked out Oleg Chagaev who knocked out Hasim Rahman TWICE… Rahman knocked Lewis out with one shot… I’m not saying Peter was anywhere near as good as Lewis.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:50 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Tark….I actually had Chris winning most of those early rounds…He was busier and Stiverne only was scoring here and there. I am not a believer in giving a guy a round just based off of ONE GOOD SHOT…I believe Chris got tired by the 5th round; because that round was extremely slow; and that’s when Bermaine started laying traps for him…In the sixth; he threw a lazy jab and got COUNTERED!!! I could be wrong; because I’m not perfect; but I believe that Chris spent most of his camp dealing with weight issues because the big plot around the fight seemed to be based around what type of physical condition he was going to come in….He made some of the same mistakes in this past Saturday fight as he did in their first fight; and this time it cost him dearly which leads me to believe he didn’t spend much time in camp making adjustments; just trying to keep weight off. Sad because I really like Chris and think he is a great talent but just does not have the discipline to stay in shape and good conditioning.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:50 pm 


RAYGORDON REID

I HAD ARROLA

Posted May 11, 2014 5:49 pm 


Dan D

Stiverne ain’t that great. Good enough but Wlad will roll him in 6 rounds.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:48 pm 


Dan D

Task, you CANNOT rewrite the history book, it’s done with. Vitali lost the fight. Boxing is a man’s sport. Don’t always matter how they win, but winners always find a way.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:47 pm 


TARK

I actually didn’t see Stiverne getting outboxed particularly. He was getting out worked for a while. That’s certainly true. But working that hard looked like it was going to come back to haunt him.

It was clear that Bermane wanted Arreola to throw a lot. He was finding spots to land great counterpunches. Just throwing a lot of punches doesn’t mean you’re outboxing somebody — you may, in fact, be sowing the seeds of your defeat.

Teddy Atlas is an idiot. He didn’t pick up on what Stiverne was doing. He was looking for a big counter shot. Chris is wide open.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:45 pm 


Reality

Tark, you have been bitter and twisted about what Lennox did to Vitali for years. Give it up, he got stopped on cuts. He never met anyone that could punch as hard as Lennox Lewis. Not one article at the time said the punches were illegal. Stop lying and move on. He met his nemesis, that’s all.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:43 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Square….Did it ever occur to any of you that maybe Stiverne was trying to adjust to being in the ring because of the over a year layoff he had since the first fight??? Do you even know why he was off for a full year???? If not; I will tell you why…Because he was SUPPOSE TO HAVE FOUGHT VITALI but the fight did not happen because Vitali was NON-DECISIVE about what he wanted to do…..

Posted May 11, 2014 5:41 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Tark….So just because he never cut another man open to stop a fight means it had to be bogus in the Vitali fight….That makes absolutely NO SENSE…And you guys are suppose to be taking me to school???? SMFH……

Posted May 11, 2014 5:38 pm 


TARK

…”Btw…Lennox never won another fight on cuts because he never fought again!!!! Just saying…” …. LMFAO

Lewis had a lot of other fights and never won any other fight on cuts… Vitali never suffered a threatening cut in his life other than at the hands of Lewis.

Lewis slashed open those cuts with the palm of his right glove, after causing an initial nick with an illegal thumb strike. Study the 3rd round of the fight and you’ll see it, unless you’re blind … It’s as clear as a bell the fight should have gone to the scorecards.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:35 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

I’m not trying to take anything away from Stiverne. He earned that title/belt and beat CA twice. It was a great win for him, but he was getting outboxed and losing up until the 6th.
People are just calling him a “paper champion” because the REAL HW Champion of the World is obviously King Wlad. And many wise boxing people have serious doubts about how long BS will be able to hold on to that title if he goes and fights the best HWs in the world. I want to see Stiverne step-up and face Wlad right after he beats Pulev — if BS still has his title/belt by that point.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:33 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Vitali’s hands were raised in victory in the fight with Lennox????

Posted May 11, 2014 5:31 pm 


TARK

Vitali was THEE Heavyweight Champion of the World.

He beat Lennox Lewis, who was the champion, and retired the cheater… and Vitali never lost since then… He was never knocked down… He has never been behind on points in any professional boxing match.

Vitali’s only real loss came when he was miles ahead of Chris Byrd.. He suffered a badly torn rotator cuff injury and couldn’t continue.. but he was well ahead on all cards despite the injury.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:30 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I’ve watched the fight SEVERAL TIMES; no need to watch BOGUS YOUTUBE VIDEOS….Thank YOU…..

Posted May 11, 2014 5:29 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

That, right TARK! Preach the TRUTH, brother, and take these fools to school!

Octa-p*ssy Jomar Chatman: You just accidentally revealed to that you don’t much about boxing at all. The two other cuts were below VK’s eye and were NOT threatening his vision or future possibility of blindness.

The fight was stopped because of the ONE deep, jagged cut above VK’s eye. FACT. The only cut that forced the stoppage. And that cut was caused by an ILLEGAL blow. Go watch the evidence and open your eyes for once, son!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:27 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Btw…Lennox never won another fight on cuts because he never fought again!!!! Just saying…..

Posted May 11, 2014 5:27 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I will “RESPECTFULLY” agree to disagree with you both; because that is not the fight I saw!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:26 pm 


TARK

Lewis didn’t beat Vitali. That decision was highway robbery by the referee. He allowed Lewis to get away with severe fouling, which is how all those cuts were slashed open.

Lewis never won another fight on cuts—and Vitali never suffered a threatening cut in any other fight in his life.

That fight goes to the scorecards because the fouls caused the cuts… Vitali win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION!!! … That’s was the only fair verdict.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:24 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

So as not to get off subject; the bottom line is Stiverne is no more of a paper champion than Vitali was….Neither won their championship from the lineal champion; but they are/were BOTH CHAMPIONS!!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:20 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“It wasn’t A cut. it was MULTIPLE cuts…”

It was only ONE cut that stopped the fight — the ONE above VK’s eye. And evidence PROVES beyond any reasonable doubt that cut was caused by an illegal blow. It was an extremely dirty strike with the thumb and inside edge of his glove. Go watch the EVIDENCE, Octa-P*ssy, you cowboy c0ck-ridin’ MFer!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:13 pm 


clitoris

Wlads dream of all titles is gone. No way KING WILL ALLOW this title to be taken. He WILL delay and delay even if its mandatory in my opinion. Then a sudden injury will com up right before the fight fpr another year. This is sad unless vitily holds rights if he wants to reclaim.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:08 pm 


The Prince

Eric_Suede – I understand the personal, family, reasons for the BROTHERS not to fight one another. I get it, understand it, and feel for it. However, boxing is a sport and a business and them refusing to settle who was the best among them in the ring was one of the big reasons the HW division sucked during their reign. It held the sport up. In other sports, when family members are apart of the same sport and have to compete against one another, they do it, rather they like it or not. I’m sure they spent plenty of time sparring against one another, so they should’ve did what was best for the sport and unified the bets.

Posted May 11, 2014 5:06 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Octavius Jomar Chatman: You won’t even take the time to go review the video evidence because YOU CAN”T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

LL DUCKED VK like the Cowardly Lion and passed up a $50 million pay day. It would’ve been the RICHEST fight in history.
What kind of ATG World Champion DUCKS that type of opportunity??? One who knows he barely escaped the first fight on a technicality and MISTAKE by the incompetent ref — that’s who. LL knew in his heart the cut that stopped the fight was caused by an ILLEGAL blow — NOT a clean punch. LL got OUTBOXED by VK 4-2 and retired the great Lewis at just 37 years old. Period. END OF STORY!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:05 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Are we going to stick to boxing or insulting each other mothers because we don’t know how to come up with an intelligent feedback….Octavius….THE EIGHTH CHILD if you must know dickhead!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 5:00 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Eric_Suede…You are absolutely right. The only reason I even bothered to bring up the whole Lennox ordeal was to prove a point and show the HYPOCRISY of some of these so called boxing gurus.. Stiverne gets labeled a PAPER CHAMPION because he did not win the belt from Vitali…But nobody wants to talk about the fact that he never got a chance to win it from Vitali because Vitali refused to fight.. The WBC gave him one extension after another; and it put the division on hold.. Stiverne was suppose to fight him after beating Arreola the first time but instead found himself standing in LIMBO because Vitali had to deal with his homeland issues and wasn’t ready to fight…..

Posted May 11, 2014 4:59 pm 


Eric_Suede

Ok the Prince. I mean I get it. I’m not fan of the Klitschko’s either but come on. Boxing isn’t a game. You can Die in that ring. I think it’s completely unreasonable to suggest that Wlad should’ve fought Vitali. Come on Dude. As for the whole lennox lewis / vitali thing. Klitschko nuthuggers GIVE IT A REST. that fight was over 10 years ago. Vitali LOST deal with it. Yes he was up on the cards but if you watch that fight the momentum had definitely switch in Lennox’s favor. He made adjustments and was getting on the inside. It wasn’t A cut. it was MULTIPLE cuts vitali had that had him looking like 2-face in the batman comics. Likewise with Manuel Charr’s fight with Vitali. Manuel was stepping it up and the fight was getting interesting but he suffered and cut and Vitali won. It sucks but hey. such is life. Goodness get over it. Both vitali & lennox are now retired. let that debate go.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:54 pm 


red

@the prince……… What strange logic you possess….

Posted May 11, 2014 4:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I don’t give a damn about no video concocted by some Vitali FANATIC; it WAS NOT RULED a accidental cut; A PUNCH WAS THROWN and his ass was OPENED UP….END OF STORY!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 4:52 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

What to see the evidence that it was thumb strike? Go to YouTube and search for “Vitali Klitschko Cut Controversy”

This video shows the punch in slow-motion about 20-30 times.
Clearly, it was LL’s thumb and inside edge of his glove that caused the cut that stopped the fight. That is an illegal blow and should’ve been ruled so be the incompetent ref Lou Moret.

Watch closely how LL whips his right hand in an outward bowing motion while grazing VK’s eye with his thumb. LL never whipped any of his right-hand punches in that same outward bowing motion. That’s evidence that the thumb strike was intentional and no accident. Because when you want to thumb a guy, you whip your punch away from his head while making contact. The proof is in the pudding. Accept the TRUTH and live with it!

Posted May 11, 2014 4:50 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Square One….I like how you like to stretch the facts….Nice try….I forgot; THE REFEREE RULED THAT CUT ACCIDENTAL; LMAO……Speaking of the precious WBC; we are talking about the same organization that gave Vitali EXTENTION AFTER EXTENTION on facing his mandatory which is why Stiverne had not been in the ring OVER A YEAR LAST NIGHT because he was waiting for your precious Vitali to make up his mind as to whether he wanted to defend the title or go play POLITICS in his homeland….GTFOH with your nonsense dude!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 4:45 pm 


The Prince

Stiverne did well waiting until Arreola tired himself out and then going for it. It’s clear that Arreola isn’t too bright in the ring and Stiverne exploited it. I DON’T believe Wlad should get a shot at Stiverne, because he had plenty of chances to unify the bets when his brother was fighting, but refused to fight him. Now that Vitali is retired, suddenly Wald wants to prove he’s the undisputed HW champion? I won’t blame Don King if he keeps Stiverne away from the remaining Klit brother.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:44 pm 


Eric_Suede

Squared- we’ll agree to disagree. All this is for naught anyways. Stiverne won. not once but twice. done deal. He’s the WBC champion. & Yes the division Did get a bit of a spark. You may be somehow offended that stiverne is getting a little shine now that he has a belt, but that doesn’t change the fact that people are now talking. You DO have have the Wilder’s, Stivene. Pulev (never seen him fight & tony thompson says wlad will ko him easy, but many say he’s good) , fury, browne, I mean you have a few names now that have folk talking. Plus at last you have someone not named klitchsko with a belt which makes for unification. The alphabet soup at this moment seems to be hell bent to have Wlad fight Pulev, then Stiverne Wilder. Stiverne/wilder is an interesting bout as in my opinion it’ll be wilder’s first real test. Let’s say Wilder destroys Stiverne. You don’t think that then sets up and interesting fight between Wilder & Wlad. At least on paper? Or another way. If steverne. Destroys wilder. Fans will be impressed that he was able to overcome Wilders height & reach advantage and have folks talking wondering if BS can do the same to Wlad. Just saying yesterday’s event was a good thing. You and others my dismiss BS as a bum but he did his thing last night and deserves to celebrate.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:42 pm 


De Lima I.

Co signed

Posted May 11, 2014 4:42 pm 


Trickdaddy

Stiverne is the man and a well deserving champ. But let’s b real, conditioning has always been a problem with Arreola. I remember leading up to the Klitschko fight, they spent some time with Arreola in his training camp. He was smashin tacos, slammin beers, and putting 3 miles of road work in. 3 MILES!! Until he gets ‘hungrier’ fo a HW Title, he’s just gonna b a perpetual contender……

Posted May 11, 2014 4:40 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“Vitali did not retire Lennox….Father time retired Lennox…He did not want to train anymore and he bowed out because it wasn’t in him anymore….Having your eye opened up like the Red Sea is a strange way of retiring someone….You loss me with that one!!!!”

Wrong!!! The cut the stopped the fight was caused by an ILLEGAL thumb strike and made worse by LL illegally raking the cut with the palm of his glove. There is slow-motion evidence that proves it was a thumb strike — NOT a clean punch.

LL never spoke about retirement before he fought VK. LL even tried his best to get a rematch with Tyson after the VK fight, so clearly he did not want to retire. Those are FACTS! It wasn’t until the WBC told LL that he had to rematch VK for his very next fight or he would be stripped of his title/belt. LL chose to retire instead of facing VK again. So clearly, it was VK who sent him packing into retirement with his head down and tail between his legs.

At 36 & 37, LL was saying: “I’m like a fine wine…I only get better with age.” Yet you guys make weak, feeble arguments that it was father time who retired LL. Yeah right… ROFL.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:35 pm 


The Prince

Vitali lost to Lennox Lewis and that loss has haunted him his whole career. Trying to rewrite history won’t change that. Lennox Lewis retired as the last undisputed HW Champion of the world and UK’s possibly first boxing HW legend. Lewis ended his career earning the respect of both the UK and the US. Saying Vitali was winning before the stoppage means nothing. Arreola was winning before he got knocked out. Stiverne is the WBC HW Champion.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:33 pm 


Tony TT Galento

Why do people keep bringing Wilder up? The guy has done nothing!

Posted May 11, 2014 4:29 pm 


Eric_Suede

When did I claim to be “highly accurate” in scoring? I’m just giving my opinion. It wasn’t just you. Many people online keep making the point that chris was winning. He was up on the cards. It comes down to semantics. I guess I take issue with the word “dominating”. I think that is misleading. Vitali Klitshcko DOMINATED against arreola, Arreola going into the 6th had the lead and he was up on the cards. Again I had it 3-2 going into round 6. Fmj vs maidana I had it 7rds to 5 maidana, but I can see a draw. I’m not thoroughly upset that Floyd got the nod but I think the judges scoring was off. I never watched broner vs mal

Posted May 11, 2014 4:27 pm 


Eric_Suede

Squared- No, Chris’s CORNER threw in the towel and stopped the fight. Not the ref or the ringside doctor & chris did not Quit. So yes technically it’s a tko stoppage and there’s NO doubt in my mind that Vitali would’ve went on to score an easy UD . But I think Stiverne’s dismantling of arreola was impressive. Moreso than a tall guy using his reach and outboxing him. just my opinion.
Cometry- yes i’m a fan of both fighters. I like stiverned & arreola. I feel both guys are good for the HW division. I see arreola in the same light as I see david tua or Ray mercer. Good top 10 guys (mercer in his prime) but not worldbeaters. Nevertheless as I said before. Chris is good for boxing. He’s not a gatekeeper. Maybe not for his next fight as I believe he needs a few tune ups to rebuild his confidence but I think both arreola & stiverne beats wilder.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:21 pm 


D

vitali retired lennox. lennox tried to get a rematch with tyson and that proves he wanted to continue. he wanted to continue boxing but he was faced with a mandatory challengers who was boxing the crap out of him in the first fight. he didn’t want to risk a ko loss so he quit.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:21 pm 


D

it matters not whether it was an even fight heading into the 6th. stiverne scored 2 kds in the 6th to put him 3 points up in that round. if chris was able to survive the round there’s no way he was going to be ahead on points. effective punching gets the nod over feather punching.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:14 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Vitali did not retire Lennox….Father time retired Lennox…He did not want to train anymore and he bowed out because it wasn’t in him anymore….Having your eye opened up like the Red Sea is a strange way of retiring someone….You loss me with that one!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 4:12 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

What was your score for Broner vs. Paulie M.???

Posted May 11, 2014 4:10 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Eric_Suede: Since you claim to highly accurate at scoring fights, what was your score for FMJ vs. MM???

Posted May 11, 2014 4:09 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Eric_Suede: There is a ton of terrible judging in pro boxing. And two of the judges scoring FMJ vs. MM were either corrupt or not paying attention. 117-111 was not even close.

You can disagree all you want, but it doesn’t change the fact that CA won round 4. Round 5 was very close, but CA won that round as well. I gave BS round 1, but a strong argument can be made that was an even round. Sure, BS landed ONE hard shot in the few seconds of the round, but it is only scored as ONE power shot (because there was no knock down or standing 8 count). That ONE power shot does not erase all the shots CA landed earlier in the round. But I’ll give BS round 1 out of generosity.

I never said CA was “beating the snot outta” BS, smashing him or beating him down. I said that he was outboxing and dominating him on the cards. That’s a fact, not an exaggeration. You can try to make it sound like it was an even fight going into the 6th, but that’s just not accurate.

So you’re saying the HW division is suddenly exciting again just because BS beat CA for a vacant title??? Who has BS beat other than CA — a class-B fighter at best? 41-year-old washed-up Ray Austin, that’s who. And he had a really difficult time doing it.

BTW…Vitali beat the stuffing outta of CA and STOPPED him (TKO). His face was badly busted up and swollen, with blood pouring out of his nose and mouth. VK won every single round!
VK also outboxed Lewis 4-2 and retired him at just 37-years-old. LL ducked the rematch like the Cowardly Lion because he knew he couldn’t hurt VK or outbox him. It is now widely known throughout the boxing world as the DUCK OF THE CENTURY.

Posted May 11, 2014 4:05 pm 


cometry

So Eric – are you a fan of Chris or not???

Posted May 11, 2014 3:50 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@Eric_Suede….EXACTLY!!!! Thank You…at least someone on here can see through the HYPOCRISY!!!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 3:34 pm 


Dave

Poor Chris, he really got banged last nite. I hope he stays clean.

Posted May 11, 2014 3:18 pm 


Eric_Suede

to your other point. Swedish, The Klitschko brothers never defeated Lennox Lewis to win the undisupted title that LL held, for year. Fact is , it doesn’ti matter. Vitali beat Corrie Sanders to win the WBC belt not Lennox Lewis. My question to you. Did it Matter? NO! Vitali legitimately won the title and wanted nothing more than to rematch Lennox and with the belt that way. It’s not his fault lennox retired. Likewise stiverne stated many times he wanted to fight vitali. Even after the first arreola beatdown, he called Vitali out. Vitali retired. Such is life. Bermane Stiverne is the WBC champion.

Posted May 11, 2014 3:11 pm 


Eric_Suede

Swedish Fair enough, I don’t believe anyone is talking crap saying Stiverne is THE MAN. The #1 guy and the guy to beat to be recognized as the REAL champ. #1 it wasn’t his fault vitaly chose to retire. Stiverne wanted to fight Vitali but obviously that fight didn’t happen. Fact is though BS EARNED this belt. Won 2 eliminators and put the smackdown on Arreola in a way NOONE else have. Give stiverne his props. Vitali gave arreola a severe boxing lesson but never had him down or on spaghetti legs the way stiverne has. He deserves his props. This fight at least gave the HW division a spark, We actually have a bit of excitement now with some prospects and good upcoming HW fights. Do I think Stiverne will beat wlad? No but Stiverne vs. Wlad for the undisputed HW championship of the world is actually a fight boxing fans would like to see now. Even in defeat, Arreola is good for boxing. His career is very similar to David Tua’s. If the HW division had 6 more “chris arreola’s” in it. it would be way more exciting.

Posted May 11, 2014 3:04 pm 


Eric_Suede

Squared I beg to differ. it depends on the judge. Some judges appreciate a fighter who is busier and would give that guy the nod, while others feel crisp counter-punching and accuracy will give you the nod. Case in point this last fight between Mayweather & maidana. Maidana clearly outworked floyd and was the busier of the 2 but those judges preferred floyds accuracy & power punching.
To answer your question I had Stiverne winning rds, 1 & 4. rd 5 could’ve went either way but I won’t argue those who felt Chris won it. Watch rd 4 again. Stiverne was popping chris with his lazy jab. Chris came forward and had the one flurry but Bermane landed beautiful counter punches that had chris backing up. Even the announcers ringside who were dickriding chris the entire fight had it 3 rds to 2.
Look I agree , Chris was up on the cards. My point is #1 it doesn’t matter. #2 Stiverne wasn’t “dominated”. That’s where the disagreement here. You and a few others are acting as if chris was beating the snot out of Stiverne then BS came out of nowhere with a lucky punch. Uhhh NO. that’s not how the fight played out. They both had good moments and it was a pretty decent HW scrap. Chris was a bit busier , that is the only reason one can make a case and say he was up but I feel BS was counterpunching beautifully and fighting well off the ropes.

Posted May 11, 2014 2:53 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Let the battle for the “Paper made world heavyweight championship” start.

The title is the WBC belt on the “paper” and one of the title challangers (Chris Arreola) havent even made himself earned of another title shot and was still up to fight for a vacant title.

He never won the title from the Klitschko brother as the brothers have have ruled the world heavyweight scene sence 2006, 2008-2014 and on.
Wladimir Klitschko is the unified & undisputed heavyweight champion of the world (Ring, WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO) and only the WBC title is out of his grasp.

Bermane Stiverne did a good fight and his knock-out of Chris Arreola to win the belt made him look a lot better.

BUT even if he is a promising tallant, he is still not “The” heavyweight champion and never will be as long as Wladimir Klitschko is the king. Only by defeating him or yhe would decide to retire Bermane Stiverne can fight for that recognition.

Posted May 11, 2014 2:52 pm 


Alonzo

Leapai had better head movement than both these guys together. Nuff said.

Posted May 11, 2014 2:43 pm 


Shane

King won’t let BS be in the same country as Wlad at the same time let alone a ring. This paper title is going Ruiz style. Sucks

Posted May 11, 2014 2:39 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Eric_Suede: I’ve never been an Arreola fan — ask anyone on ESB. In fact, I’m the cat who coined the nickname, “Titties” Arreola…LOL. (If you don’t get why’s that’s so funny, read about the anatomy of the human breast.)

I also predicted that Stiverne would win the fight, so was not surprised. After last night, of course Stiverne has proven he’s the better fighter. But accurate scoring is accurate scoring. And Stiverne had only won 1 round going into the 6th. That called being outboxed and dominated.

“…throughout the fight stiverne landed the more cleaner punches.” That’s NOT how fights are scored, Eric! Fights are scored on a round-to-round basis and the only round Stiverne won going into the 6th was the 1st. (And he was even losing that round until he landed a big shot in the last few seconds of the round. So a lot of knowledgeable boxing people might score round 1 as even.)

Exactly which rounds to do believe that Stiverne won???

Posted May 11, 2014 2:25 pm 


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Jonn E JaGozza;I have your book and its excellent,thankyou from the UK.

Posted May 11, 2014 2:25 pm 


Anonymous

no one has said anything about that other great hw prospect hughie fury who fought last night.

Posted May 11, 2014 2:16 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

I have a different way at looking at this guy Stiverne. It’s not that he is that good but rather that Aerreola was that bad and his ( Arreola’s) weaknesses made Stiverne look so GREAT… NOW, any banger who goes up against Arrelao will knock him out, the same thing I stated after Pacquio beat Rios, Rios never should have been in that fight but his poor performance made Packman look so invincible, and we all know now, that Packman isn’t what he once was. Am I the only guy out here who is getting sick of Shannon Briggs’ running his mouth ?… Have him fight Arreloa with the loser agreeing to ” hang em up. ” Stiverne looked quick but poorly conditioned, unless he takes his training and conditioning more seriously, he won’t be around too long …. I still haven’t seen Wilder fight yet and if they can make a fight with both he and Stiverne, let’s get it on !… I’d put my money on the taller guy Wilder.. Boxingdictionary.com …”The Language of the Ring “

Posted May 11, 2014 2:09 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

He may not be the best; but winning a portion of the title is a start.

Posted May 11, 2014 1:54 pm 


Eric_Suede

Stop that nonsense, Squared, Stiverne WAS NOT getting “dominated”. throughout the fight stiverne landed the more cleaner punches. Chris was a bit Busier. Chris’s only “moment” was the end of round 3. Stiverne took those punches and smiled. Was still talking crap. Funny how you guys are trying real hard to find a silver lining for Chris. I am a fan of his too. As I said in another thread, he has the personality that would’ve made him exciting and had he won his I’m the WBC champion interview soundbites would’ve been epic, but at some point you guys just need to come to grips with the fact that Stiverne is Better than arreola. Has his number. Good win for stiverne give him hi s props.

Posted May 11, 2014 1:54 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Stiverne can prove he’s for real by beating Wilder, Povetkin, Fury, Glazkov or the winner of Wlad-Pulev. He was getting outboxed and dominated before landing that hard temple shot in the 6th. And we all know that Arreola is NOT a class-A fighter. All hail to the new paper HW champion!!!

Posted May 11, 2014 1:47 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

“Don King isn’t going to let that paper title go anywhere near Wlad. Stiverne is going to fight once a year, at the most, against bums. Don’t be shocked if King brings John Ruiz out of retirement for a title fight.” I could not have said it better myself.

Posted May 11, 2014 1:43 pm 


Martin

With King talking about that “world tour”, it certainly sounds like he’s keen to keep Stiverne away from Wilder for as long as possible. It wouldn’t surprise me if he tries to set up a fight between Stiverne and Browne in Australia. Then again, since Browne would have at least a puncher’s chance, perhaps he’ll feed him someone even less highly ranked than that. Stiverne vs Audley, anyone?

Posted May 11, 2014 1:16 pm 


Martin

A fight with Wilder might be interesting because Stiverne has both good pop and a good chin. It would help to establish whether or not Wilder is the real deal, answering questions about his chin and (if it goes long enough) his stamina.

Stiverne has neither the height nor the reach to trouble Wladimir, but things would get more interesting if Wilder were able to take Stiverne out in the early rounds. Even if that happened, I still don’t think Wilder would have much of a chance against Wladimir, but he would surely have established himself as the most dangerous opponent Wladmir has fought in a very long time.

Posted May 11, 2014 1:10 pm 


egg on tost

f~k of home Kareem

Posted May 11, 2014 1:01 pm 


Bermane and Goosen’s Purpe Barney suit

Bermane will Ko’s Wilder in 3 rds !

Posted May 11, 2014 12:50 pm 


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Hey Bermane come over to the Uk and Ko Tyson Fury after Del Boy KO’s him in July.

Posted May 11, 2014 12:47 pm 


mike

Stiverne will now have an optional defense according to Don King. That defense will be against former cruiserweight world champion Guillermo Jones. You heard it here first.

Posted May 11, 2014 12:24 pm 


Eric_Suede

Stiverne will smash Wilder. No doubt. As for Stiverne vs. Wlad. BORING fight. it’ll be a repeat of Wladimir vs. Ibragimov. Wlad will be ultra cautious all the while Stiverne will try his best to lure Wlad into coming forward and engaging so BS can counter. Wlad isn’t stupid. Wlad would win a boring UD. As for Fraudley Harrison. lol lol lol What a joke. How about this. Wilder should fight winner of Fury vs chisora. Harrison should fight Briggs in a “loser finally quits boxing and goes away” match. Which should open up the path for unification with WLad. even though I think the fight will be boring.

Posted May 11, 2014 12:09 pm 


Anonymous

Stiverne is a good boxer, but he wouldn’t get a single punch through Wladimir’s defense and he would get knocked out maybe in the mid rounds. He would probably smash Wilder though.

Posted May 11, 2014 11:22 am 


Pratt

Klits will not get a shot unless it was specified in a contract, and if not King will milk this title to the max and Bermane will fight cans for 2 years until he is forced into a mandatory with Vitali, Wladimir or Wilder. We will see corruption in the highest form here. The K-Bros kept King out of the picture for a decade just like King kept them out of the titles for years with all his Ruiz crap and King Stable mates.

Posted May 11, 2014 11:18 am 


Vlad the Impaler

Wlad would win every minute of every round against stiverne. Probably a TKO in the 10th or 11th.

Posted May 11, 2014 11:05 am 


Hosteen

Wilder is NOT a menacing presence – What we do know is this – Wilder will continue to face over matched no – hopers u till he gets an extremely undeserved shot at the title

Posted May 11, 2014 11:04 am 


Mo-Box

Out of curiosity, did they do a proper PED tests for this fight? Not taking anything off from anybody, just thinking about the fact that throughout history Don King’s fighter are known to be (and proven) dirty.

Posted May 11, 2014 11:04 am 


Mo-Box

No wonder everybody want to fight him – many saw flaws in Stiverne game that even C-level Arreola could take advantage at times, i.e. his low workrate and low guard. With the elder Klitchko retire basically all the contenders now see an easy way to vacant WBC title. In this sense it’s really a shame and Stiverne still needs to establise prove himself as the true champion. Good luck to him, he sure is like a nice guy, great chin and tough mofo.

Posted May 11, 2014 11:03 am 


yo

So Stiverne probably got 70,000 after taxes, Don King fees, corner fee, gym fees…

He needs a high profile fight against an overhyped opponent..

Posted May 11, 2014 10:54 am 


TJ

Stiverne got USD 225, 000 and Arreola USD 100,000!

Posted May 11, 2014 10:48 am 


Brazilian Boxing Fan to The Negro King

Stiverne, 225,000 dollars. Arreola, 100,000 dollars.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:47 am 


Prof Konje

Don King will “milk” that title that Stiverne has for a long time. Already he mentioned a “world tour” meaning that King is hitting the road to that Stiverne could face lots of questionable fighters and make King some $.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:41 am 


The Negro King

What were these guys paid for this fight?

Posted May 11, 2014 10:38 am 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

His first title defence will probably be against Deontay Wilder.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:24 am 


yo

Stiverne should be begging to fight Wilder.

Wilder is a bigger fraud than Bermane himself.

Bermane’s two wins over Arreola dwarf Bumsquad’s entire career.

If Bermane ducks Bumsquad, then who can he fight? Feather-fisted Cunningham? Or Father Time Mansour. Lucas ‘I’m So Clumsy’ Browne?

No way in hell should he fight Wlad. I am not sure he could beat Leapai.

Chisora would be even money against Stiverne.

The most winnable, and lucrative fight for Bermane, is Bumsquad.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:22 am 


Mike Dino

Don King isn’t going to let that paper title go anywhere near Wlad. Stiverne is going to fight once a year, at the most, against bums. Don’t be shocked if King brings John Ruiz out of retirement for a title fight.

Posted May 11, 2014 10:17 am 



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