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Rich

What’s the matter Turdo….Cat got your tongue? Are you just going to lay down and let someone b!tch slap you into submission like that without defending yourself? I thought you were supposed to be the big man on ESB campus? Guess not….I’m really disappointed in you Turdo the Turd Burglar

Posted May 22, 2014 3:56 pm 


sean p h

Lot of talk on here. Lmfao.

Posted May 20, 2014 8:59 pm 


sean p h

Very nice bears. Jmm is one of the best boxers ever.

Posted May 20, 2014 8:56 pm 


BEARS

DAMN! LIONKING! laying the smack down!!!

i had issue with one of your posts below too TE TUMBO. I felt the message was unclear or incoherent. you talk about exact mathematics and “contrived” greatness.

What math? compubox? or just the rounds you thought jmm won?

what “contrived” greatness? I feel oax resume stands on its own. First off he had better performances against all common opponents with floyd. He fought and defeated Multiple times ATG’s morales and barrera which u feel in and of itself goes beyond what floyd has done. Add tothat multiple wins against bradley. fightin and beating margarito.

Most unclear to me is you talk jmm up so highly and his greatness. Yet pac literally put jmm down 3 times in one round. PLEASE DUDE. Not only is that a tko win its excessive as all hel and something noone else has been able to duplicate. drops who u think is great three times in one round? fighter of the decade. thats real greatness, maybe you could elucidate and expoun on what you call “contrived” greatness? also a request. could u stop the excess verbiage that make your posts unclear?

Posted May 20, 2014 6:01 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

“Btw SQUARED CIRCLE, the “hate” retort is a cop-out. i can detail every instance of Pacquiao’s* contrived “greatness” with mathematical precision and documented boxing factS. no emotion other than love for Boxing involved in my contempt for Arum’s hand-puppet. at long last, Recognize.”

te tumbo: No, the real cop-out is that you refused to answer my question and totally side-stepped it. So I’ll ask you again. Do you really believe that Bradley beat PacMan??? It’s a simple yes-or-no question. Speaking of command of the English language, you should know that “contempt” is a synonym for “hatred” and conversely…”hatred” is a synonym for “contempt.”

So what you call “contempt for Arum’s hand-puppet” is perceived by most on ESB as an obsessive, deep-seated hatred for Pac that’s been boiling over for years. Nothing wrong with hating someone — if you have a good reason. Just fess-up and admit to it, dude, because everyone on ESB already knows the truth. You also said: “at long last, Recognize.” Recognize what?

Posted May 20, 2014 3:41 pm 


Hecdog

Floyd Mayweather is on the way out. Maidana beat him around the ring like a rag doll, and the signs of age clearly showed (Unlike Ped Man Marquez whom uses the rejuvenating Hereida Mix). His timing was gone. He looked much slower. His defense was shattered. Floyd Mayweather showed us why he wanted no part of the Legendary Manny Pacquiao. Now Mayweather and his dummies are trying to get in those last 3 fights, and if those fights happen in Las Vegas he has little chance of losing unless he fights the legendary Manny Pacquiao whom would take the judges out of the equation by stopping Floyd Mayweather. Other possible opponents like Khan, Garcia and Thurman even in Floyd’s decline wouldn’t beat him. Khan fights like an amateur and keeps his head up in the air too much. His chin as we all know is made of glass. Thurman has a punchers chance and that’s all. He’s been given way too much credit for doing nothing. He has fought no one. He continually gets rocked by any solid punch, and he has basic boxing skills. I am not impressed by Thurman at all. There are only two fighters out there that will beat Mayweather decisively. Shawn Porter because of his youth speed, power, stamina and most importantly his experience training with the greatest fighter of all time, Manny Pacquiao. Porter is the real deal. I see a unanimous one sided beating in this fight with Porter making Floyd Maywether look old as terry Norris did to Sugar Ray Robinson. The other fighter that would obviously beat Floyd is none other than the only 8 division boxing champion in history, Manny Pacquiao. At age 35 Manny Pacquiao is still regarded by most boxing observers as the greatest fighter of all time. He is the fighter that has a style that can’t be beaten on a one fight basis. Manny’s return to glory was incredible to see as he destroyed a young, strong Brandon Rios, a former champion. His classic and memorable boxing exhibition will be hailed for centuries. Manny then followed that colossal victory by dominating a young, strong, unbeaten Timothy Bradley. Floyd Mayweather’s career will be marred by his fear of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Floyd’s career will be remembered more by what he failed to do and not what he did. No one can ever say Manny Pacquiao ducked or avoided anyone. This is the main reason he is so loved, respected, honored, admired, cherished and adored. A fighter in the true sense of the word. The question remains, will Floyd Mayweather ever fight Manny Pacquiao? I highly doubt it. And this is why no matter who Floyd fights next, the fans will have no interest. The miserable PPV numbers in the Maidana fight clearly show Floyd’s decline even more so out of the ring because unless there is a name with a big fan base, Floyd Mayweather doesn’t draw, which leads to the obvious when it comes to taking money between these two if the fight were to ever happen. Manny Pacquiao should take no less than 70% and Floyd should take 30%. I’ve been telling anyone that would listen that Manny far out draws all boxers world wide. Yes, there are millions of fans around the globe that can”t afford the telecast and never are accounted for. Let’s take Floyd to Macau China and see what he draws. Fans must understand Manny popularity world wide. Congressman, future President, Actor, Singer, Model, Only 8 Division Boxing Champion in boxing history, clothing designer, Bible Study Teacher and so much more. Manny Pacquiao has been the front page picture of boxing for over 10 years. He has brought families together and has elevated boxing to a level never seen before. Manny Pacquiao is very different than fighters like Mayweather and Marquez both of whom have lost respectability in the fans eyes. Both are fearful of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Floyd is simply plain scared for his health and Marquez isn’t confident that he can get Angel Hereida to put together the right nutritional mix and get away with it. Manny Pacquiao stands head and shoulders above them both. A legend that needs no introduction. Trust me, boxing will never be the same once Manny Pacquiao retires. This man carried his country and the sport of boxing on his shoulders. Manny is the best!

Posted May 20, 2014 11:54 am 


te tumbo

Btw, it’s also nice to read K.C.’s envy for my command of the english language. after all, anybody can pick up a dictionary but it takes intelligence to string the words together into coherent sentences. K.C. obviously lacks the required intelligence or doesn’t know what a real dictionary looks like(?).

Posted May 20, 2014 10:52 am 


te tumbo

that’s K.C.’s primary contribution to this site. being the Pactarded* imbecile who steps up to illustrate my point. he can’t manage to score a single one of Pacquiao’s* bouts v. Marquez in favor of Pacquiao* either . . . NEXT?

Posted May 20, 2014 10:49 am 


K.C.

Tumba the idiot. Crossed the frontier and found a dictionary. She’s gonna hurt herself using such “big” words…. Tumba, the keyboard coward… “Mathematical precision”?….. Ya freaKIN RETARD!!!

Posted May 20, 2014 7:55 am 


te tumbo

Btw SQUARED CIRCLE, the “hate” retort is a cop-out. i can detail every instance of Pacquiao’s* contrived “greatness” with mathematical precision and documented boxing factS. no emotion other than love for Boxing involved in my contempt for Arum’s hand-puppet. at long last, Recognize.

Posted May 20, 2014 5:59 am 


te tumbo

“Let’s be real..”? who dares identify the 5 rounds they scored for Pacquiao* in I? the 7 in II? the 7 in III? who can deny that Marquez publicly declared and intentionally prepared to KO Manny* in IV? if Manny* is 2-0 v. Bradley, then Marquez is undoubtedly 4-0 v. Manny*. even with every conceivable condition tilted in Manny’s* favor. that’s real greatness that Pacquiao* can never match. if only because Arum’s fingerprints all over his presumed “greatness” while blood, sweat, and fierce dedication are the hallmarks of Marquez’s true greatness. the most “real” greatness in boxing today.

Posted May 20, 2014 5:56 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

te tumbo: You honestly believe that Bradley beat PacMan in one their two fights? Seriously, dude? I know you hate Pac with more passion and fervor than anyone else, but it’s downright ridiculous to say that. Don’t you think?

Posted May 19, 2014 10:48 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao 2-1-1 vs Marquez — and 2-0 vs Bradley… Let’s be real..

Many judges might believe Marquez edged Pacquiao in their first 3 fights.. I thought he did.. But those fights were very close and could have gone either way.. You can never be sure you’re going to win fights that are that hair-breadth close. The best judges can disagree on a very close round.

Pacquiao-Bradley I was just one of those completely horrible decisions. Duane Ford and C.J. Ross are 2 of the worst judges in the history of Boxing. It’s extremely weird they would show up in a fight of this importance … and then Ross would show up for Floyd-Canelo, the richest fight in history.

Posted May 19, 2014 9:52 pm 


BEARS

imagine if rios had landed all those shots on pac and almost dropped oac in round two then strait dumped pac on his a$$ round 9 and had the commentators wondering if he could land a punch that would stop the fight. jmm did not do all that great against a B level at best oost orovod beat down alvarado post rios war/ beatdown. he could not do better than provodnkov. in fact i think provodnikov would have stopped jmm.

i was not overly impressed with jmm’s performance at all. then alvarado was stationary and shelled up and jmm was able to wind up and throw what should have been seen as telegraphed from a mile out by alvarado, his right hook. alvarado did not even see it. SAD DUDE.

the more one watches jmm the more that counter and its effect looked lucky.

Posted May 19, 2014 9:51 pm 


BEARS

whoa te tumbo! u honestly think bradley won one of those pac fights? no way dude

Posted May 19, 2014 9:44 pm 


te tumbo

correction: Napman*

Posted May 19, 2014 7:40 pm 


te tumbo

Napman 2-1-1 BRUTAL KO loss v. Marquez and 1-1 v. Bradley.

Posted May 19, 2014 7:40 pm 


The Truth

Pac is 3-1 vs. JMM

Posted May 19, 2014 6:06 pm 


Hecdog

Gentlemen, Ped Man Marquez is simply a tarnished fighter that continues to ridicule the sport of boxing. Angel Hereida, the muscle bound physique, the newly found power, the tantrums he has with Hereida, the back and forth I’ll never fight Manny, I will fight Manny, the acne and the simple fact that fighters don’t continue to have these things as they advance in age. Why do you think Jones, Toney, Mosely and other top fighters made the choice to use Peds. Ped Man Marquez is a tarnished man and everyone knows it. People are not dumb. This is another ego maniac that can’t come to terms with this declining physical tools. I recall watching this guy before he fought Manny Pacquiao the forth time, and he looked like an old beaten up man getting ready to retire after he beat a Russian fighter in Mexico. He was done. And since that fight as he got together with Hereida, everything has changed. Ped Man Marquez will eventually be exposed as I’ve said, but it will be difficult. Just go ahead and read what Hereida had to say about how he masks things, and I mean all things. Hereida went from a PED Supplier to the USA Olympic Track and Field team, to SNITCH so that he could receive anonymity, and finally he weaseled his way to the boxing world. And who else other than a man that was losing it all, and wanted to regain this youth by any means. Juan Manuel “Ped Man” Marquez sold his soul to the devil. And he took the opportunity to fight without having any testing done and selected a perfect fighter to face. He picked a much bigger, slower, one dimensional, on the way out Mike Alvarado to make himself look good. He wanted the boxing fans to be fascinated by watching him take on a much bigger man. Sorry Ped Man, you are not the fighter and person I met years ago, but as we all know, all things eventually come to light.

Posted May 19, 2014 5:29 pm 


BEARS

strait DUMPED jmm and about had a KD in round 2

Posted May 19, 2014 4:49 pm 


BEARS

alvarado straid DUMPED jmm. and about had a kd in round. he too k a lot of shots and got strait DUMPED.

Then there was the BACKNE and chest acne. you know what that is a HALMARK sign of dont you????!!!!

Posted May 19, 2014 4:48 pm 


sisco

JMM at least had that cajones to fight Mayweather

Posted May 19, 2014 4:13 pm 


sisco

JMM has Manny’s timing down pat.

Posted May 19, 2014 4:12 pm 


lionhard

PacROID* is in for it “if” they ever meet again!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:36 pm 


lionhard

King Marquez looked smooth & deliberate – WHAT a FIGHTER!!! STILL doing it up in his 40s!!! The CONSUMMATE professional was a JOY to watch!!!

Posted May 19, 2014 3:35 pm 


8675309

If i must just declare for the benefit of a clear ret@rd like SREDMOND WHO DOES SEEM TO HAVE COMPHREHENSION PROBLEM: Again may i reiterate the fact that the job of th fighter is to fight. Does it matter how old is he? Or how many times he fought somebody? SREDMOND, SREDMOND, look i know you have some problems understanding or maybe just plain stubborn you know? Like a full blooded flomo. But we get it, we wont be as hard at you as you just cannot help it in your limited mental capacity. Take care my poor friend.

Posted May 19, 2014 2:29 pm 


sisco

The Pacquiao v Sanchez fight was so controversial Arum was investigated.

Posted May 19, 2014 11:56 am 


sisco

Skinny Hussein had manny down for 11 seconds.

Posted May 19, 2014 11:55 am 


sisco

Deep down Pacquiao and Pactards want no part of Floyd Mayweather.

Posted May 19, 2014 11:54 am 


sisco

JMM is 4-0 against Manny

Posted May 19, 2014 11:53 am 


SREDMOND

867 whatever the rest of your screen name is, AGAIN your limp brain ignore the FACT that the soon to be 41 year old Marquez has faced Manny 4x the last time BASHING his face in completely and ushering him out of boxing for a calendar year and sending him to a rehab fight with lead footed Brandon Rios who was coming up in weight for the FIRST time and coming direct off a loss… Your dismissals of Marquez ONLY make Pac Man look TERRIBLE because how could he let what you seem to describe as a weak fighter destroy his chin, reputation and his overall confidence the way he did????? drum roll???? Mayweather has had bigger fish to fry than Pac Man who is dealing with the reality of his increasingly worse performances against Marquez, fight 3 SUPER controversial Pac Man could not even score a flash KD against the Old man and ate a bunch of clean head shots and counters, fight 4, Pac Man on his back in round 3 and then left on his face in round 6, not moving and twitching like sword fish that got gaffed by a fisherman… Mayweather is unified Champ in 2 weight classes and the Manny is sporting that crusty WBO belt… I love Pac but he is not on Floyds level and he has NEVER got the hang of JMM after 4 fights and 10 years…

Posted May 19, 2014 11:10 am 


8675309

Dear SREDMOND the Flomosexual Turd, the duty of fighters is to fight whoever needs fighting, that is their job. If you cannot stand the heat in the kitchen, you get out and retire. Otherwise Juanita should not tell the press that Pacquiao should fight the coward Mayweather because we all know, except flomos like you that the chances of hell freezing is more likely, than Floyd facing his demons and facing his number 1 fear.
This is sooo funny, Floyd and Juanita pointing at each other that goes something like this:
Juanita: You fight him !!!
Floyd: No you fight him !!!
Juanita: No YOU !!!!
Ad nausem…………. ho hum ………….zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Posted May 19, 2014 9:42 am 


SREDMOND

You guys are morons “convince Marquez to fight Pacquiao” he already did 4x or were you under a rock? You want the older boxer to keep fighting till he takes a bad enough loss that you can claim false redemption.. Of this rivalry ends tomorrow it has been longer than 95% of them

Posted May 19, 2014 8:03 am 


8675309

Looks like you are the bigger TURD Mad Scientist.
Why don’t you do something useful and convince your amigo Juanita Marquez to fight Pacquiao instead of you spouting useless spins, and amusing conjectures about the outcome of this fight.

JMM does not seem too confident about his chances against Pacquiao hence all his cowardly, evasive excuses.

I can say it with full certainty that Juanita does not fancy herself winning this time so she will run away as far as she can as action speaks louder than words.

If she thinks she cannot win, what makes you conjure all those fantastic scenarios that only your turd filled brain can come up with. So funny.

Posted May 19, 2014 7:16 am 


The Mad Scientist

Manny is going to be better and smarter because of that punch..Tark don’t make laugh, Pacquiao is now gun shy and wants no part of a real fight because of that punch..truth is Pacquiao doesn’t have the style or ability to pot shot or box his way to a decision against an elite master counter puncher like Marquez who is now looking meaner, stronger and punching harder above 140lbs..Juan can still find a home for his right hand without a doubt and the difference in a 5th fight will be is who can take a punch better..at this stage we all know who that is..the Bradley fight only gave you turds false hope that Marquez was riped for the taking

Posted May 19, 2014 4:20 am 


TNT

Never trust a fat trainer! (TARK)

Posted May 19, 2014 2:32 am 


8675309

When Juanita is asked if he will fight Pacquiao after Alvarado, his response is: Manny should fight Mayweather as that is the fight people wants to see.

But if you look at the statement closely, JMM is saying leave me alone as it is Floyd, who should be the focus on being the coward NOT ME.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:45 am 


8675309

Juanita will not dismantle Pacquiao. JUANITA IS RUNNING AWAY FROM PACQUIAO, get your facts straight.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:26 am 


8675309

Nope, youre wrong. Juanita doesn’t want anything to do with Pacquiao now. He must be scared of something, that he just cannot stop giving excuses.

Posted May 19, 2014 12:23 am 


Ok

Alvarado wasnt sht to begin with he didnt test Marquez is a true warrior who dismantled Pac and will do it again…

Posted May 18, 2014 11:48 pm 


hurryup

Alvarado makes JMM look like ‘Superman’……

Posted May 18, 2014 11:41 pm 


TARK

I meant JMM was asked several times by Kellerman if he wanted a Pacquiao fight

Posted May 18, 2014 11:39 pm 


TARK

“Manny doesn’t want any part of JMM.” … LMFAO you got that back asswards.

Manny was asked several times by Kellerman if he wanted a Pacquiao fight.. JMM refused to answer.. He got lucky, but it may be that Pacquiao also got lucky.

Getting nailed with a perfect punch like that makes you gear up your boxing skills and defense like never before… If you’re smart, you go back to basics and drill, drill, drill, drill, drill until you’re super sharp.

Manny is going to be better and smarter because of that punch.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:38 pm 


Livershot

JMM a real Mexican from Mexico and goes toe to toe smart. Doesn’t just plow forward like those wacked disgraces that claim to be Mexican Rios and Arreola, those poseres. All the talk of PEDs, show me the test results, until then take your beatings like a man. Manny doesn’t want any part of JMM and if they do fight Manny would fight more like Floyd in fear of getting KOed again. Say “No!” to Pacquiao/Marquez V, let see some new fights Broner vs Pacquiao, Marquez vs Kahn, or any other match ups. Floyd is going to do what Floyd wants because he can and will. He might give Maidana a rematch and box like hell the way he did after he lost to Castillo, oh I’m sorry, after he was given a decision over Castillo. Mayweather still the king and still makes all the rules. I think JMM should retire outside of Floyd or fighting the young lions there is nothing left for him to do.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:13 pm 


TARK

Squared Circle.., Yes Heredia of course… Who else?

BTW.., I don’t believe in creatine, protein powers, or anything that you mix. I believe in slow cooked grass fed beef, range fed chicken, and soft boiled eggs from same.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:58 pm 


Danni

Hecdog

Maybe a bad reaction to waxing or shaving.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:44 pm 


Hecdog

Marquez sure had acne all over his chest. Hmm…..I wonder where that came from?????

Posted May 18, 2014 10:42 pm 


Anonymous

Lil Jmm’s best choice is to fight Pacman. Why lose, get annihilated and receive a small purse fighting Porter when he would get more money plus lose in the process. Smart money would be fighting Pac. Fighting Porter would not only be a huge mistake, jmm would very possibly leave the ring comatose.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:04 pm 


8675309

Id rather be knocked out like Pacquiao, than be an evasive coward like Marquez being asked all the time on when is he going to fight Manny. It must be a living hell for Juanita to experience something like this. People south of the border must be proud of him.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:55 pm 


te tumbo

“cuchie”(?!) . . . (lmao).

Posted May 18, 2014 9:31 pm 


te tumbo

“cuchie”(?!?!?). i can’t tell whether you’re six or 60 years old(?).

Posted May 18, 2014 9:30 pm 


K.C.

Listen keyboard coward…the only thing you know about puzzy is when you popped out your mame’s cuchie while she crossed the frontier…..

Posted May 18, 2014 9:30 pm 


te tumbo

“ain’t got nothing better to do then insult…” stop your whimpering you pissy troll. you’re the biggest little c*nt on this site. what’s a matter? missy doesn’t like it when other posters take a dump on HiS head? too late. it’s what you deserve and got coming.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:28 pm 


K.C.

Tumba, the only thing you know about puzzy is when you popped out your mame’s cuchie while she crossed the frontier…..

Posted May 18, 2014 9:27 pm 


te tumbo

K.C., Wtf are you still doing around here? i thought you had finally spit Manny’s* pubes out of your mouth and were p*ssycotting the sport?

Posted May 18, 2014 9:24 pm 


K.C.

Teta ain’t got nothing better to do then insult…

Posted May 18, 2014 9:23 pm 


te tumbo

take it from K.C. she’s the juice-pumping professional.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:22 pm 


K.C.

jmm is pumping the juice…

Posted May 18, 2014 9:16 pm 


Mike Tyson

Exiled Yank. Jmm avoided porter. He last ask he settled fo a belt. Porter said I fight you be happy to. Never heard from jmm about that. He took avelero as a last resort fight.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:43 pm 


SuckerPunch

D- read my comments below D regarding the HBO spanish interpreter. You’re welcome.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:06 pm 


Ok

Marquez looks ripped this fcker is juiced to the gills. Bring on Manny Pac better juice up as well fight juice with juice. Manny was on PEDS for years all is fair in love and war….

Posted May 18, 2014 8:02 pm 


SuckerPunch

popkins. Puff puff give let me get of of thag yku are smoking. Who care about controversial decisions when you get put to sleep in front of a world wide audience and instantly become an internet meme? Manny hasn’t been the same since thst embarrasing knockout while Marquez continues to look amazing. Plus he lost any type of negotiating equality against gayweather. I’d say that is called winning the war. I hope Marquez never fights him again, but continues to dangle this knockout over his head.Hell, it n only took pacquiao 4 years in between fight 1 and 2, and four more between fights 3 and 4 to give marquz a rematch. So……f! Him!

Posted May 18, 2014 8:00 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

TARK: Do you by chance know the name of JMM’s new strength trainer? Are you talking about Heredia?

Posted May 18, 2014 7:56 pm 


Hecdog

Juan Manuel Marquez other know as “Ped Man” looked awful last night. He gets hit with everything. He leads with his head, and his feet are awful. And please Ped Man fans don’t try and say that this win was something special because it wasn’t. We all knew Mike Alvarado was made to order for Marquez. Mike Alvarado is a super nice young man, but he is also a fighter that has never had any defense, has slow hands and feet, has been taking lots of punishment in his last 3 fights versus Rios and Provodnikov. A human body can only take so much punishment before it begins to wither away. I hope you guys can notice Alvarado’s slow speech. He is a tough fighter tha really needs to retire, and last night proved it. Even so, Ped Man Marquez was dropped once and on the way to another before the bell rang. Ped Man Marquez had his moments only because Alvarado is as slow as molasses. Please don’t try and paint a picture like the HBO guys did. This fight was more about Alvarado’s decline than anything Marquez did and that’s the truth. The most humiliating and embarrassing moment last night was Marquez avoiding at all costs the commitment to fight Manny Pacquiao a 5th time. He simply doesn’t want it. The man wants to cradle the tarnished victory over Manny instead of doing the right thing any real fighter would do which is to grant Manny Pacquiao a rematch. Fear echoed throughout the tv sets as Marquez wanted nothing to do with giving Manny another fight. This is a man that knows he couldn’t beat the legendary Manny Pacquiao again because Freddie has already said he would have testing 24 hrs a day around the clock. Marquez and Hereida are fully aware that this time around they will be monitored every step of the way, and they will not take a chance. A true sign of a coward just as Floyd Mayweather has also shown. Ped Man Marquez may have won the fight last night, but his interview lost him the war. Let’s see Marquez fight Provodnikov. Oh yeah, he declined to fight him several times. Manny Pacquiao ran from no one. He gave Ped Man Marquez 4 fights. Ped Man Marquez is tarnished forever. He told the world last night that he wants to live on his last victory over Manny Pacquiao and would rather not give Manny Pacquiao another fight. Ped Man Marquez needs to retire for good now. He has given into the nightmares and fear of facing the greatest fighter of all time, Manny Pacquiao ever again.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:39 pm 


TARK

Marquez has a strength trainer who he swears by. JMM spends a lot of time doing scientific weight training these days. He has the discipline to stick with an exact diet of protein, fats, carbs etc. It has added a few pounds of rock hard muscle and he punches harder and faster than ever. The regimen extended his career a few years.

Trouble is he’s 41.. His reflexes are slowing up.. He ducked Ruslan Provodnikov to fight the man Provo forced to quit.. Alvarado is so easy to punch it’s ridiculous.. Mike is not a youngster like Rios. Brandon might actually learn how to box over the next 10 years or so. Mike can’t hang at this level.

Tim Bradley.., “No way in Hell somebody 40 is as fast as me. I’ll win easy.”

Posted May 18, 2014 7:38 pm 


Danni

New Found Glory

Anonymous… first knock down before the pac got knocked out cold was very surprising. JMM did none of that before in their previous 3 fights. JMM KO power seemed to have increase while Pacquias’s KO power has diminished in higher weights. And now with the knockdown of Alvarado last night in the hands of JMM, JMM has demonstrated it again that he as a dangerous and lethal punch quite unusually considering PAC KO punching power has diminished in higher weights. PAC should start drinking his urine also to match JMM strenght in punching power.
Posted May 18, 2014 3:38 pm

Remind me, what weight division did Pac win his first title?

And what weight division did Pac batter Cotto in?

Amuse me.

Posted May 18, 2014 6:43 pm 


Tark the dummy

Time for JMM to whip Manny for the 5th time.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:57 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

JMM has made is crystal clear that he wants to win another major title (WW) before he retires. If he’s not interested in Pac 5, his only other option is Porter. For some reason I don’t think he’s gonna choose the young, strong Porter over Pac. After all, he’s already knows Pac’s style in-and-out, has already beat him, and wants to pad his retirement accounts. Pac 5 would simply pay much more than Porter. And JMM is an accountant, so you know he’s counting those beans and calculating the odds.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:48 pm 


D

jmm is no fool. he certainly doesn’t sound like he wants pac again. max kellerman had to ask him 5 X “how about pacman? yes or no?” and he never once gave a positive response. jmm knows that punch was like closing your eyes, swinging, and smashing a nolan ryan fastball over center field, out of the stadium, and into 42nd street traffic. he could do it again. just like the guy who won the lottery twice.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:36 pm 


amor

Kudos to jmm & his fans! Impressive win against a fighter who is at best a b level boxer. Pac v jmm v, here we come! Jmm needs that retirement money! Jmm fans start praying, hoping he’ll retire and turn down a 5th installment of the pac/jmm saga.

Posted May 18, 2014 5:08 pm 


TARK

Porter would beat the crap out of Marquez… That would likely be JMM’s last fight if he fought Porter. It would be a brutal stoppage.

Alvarado can’t box or defend himself, so he was perfect for JMM.

Since a Floyd fight makes no sense, Marquez’s options are Pacquiao and Porter… I think ultimately he’ll go for Pacquiao V.. I think Manny outboxes and out-speeds JMM next time.. Bradley had little trouble out-speeding Marquez… the old man is slowing up.

Posted May 18, 2014 4:07 pm 


The Truth

Pacquiao
vs Provodinikov should be made but I think Arum doesn’t want to endanger his cash cow.

Posted May 18, 2014 4:01 pm 


New Found Glory

Anonymous… first knock down before the pac got knocked out cold was very surprising. JMM did none of that before in their previous 3 fights. JMM KO power seemed to have increase while Pacquias’s KO power has diminished in higher weights. And now with the knockdown of Alvarado last night in the hands of JMM, JMM has demonstrated it again that he as a dangerous and lethal punch quite unusually considering PAC KO punching power has diminished in higher weights. PAC should start drinking his urine also to match JMM strenght in punching power.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:38 pm 


Exiled Yank

Marquez v Porter? I like the sounds of that. I doubt Porter’s people will go for it since he’s still a new/young champion (and I can’t blame them), but it would be a fun fight.

JMM FM 2 might be interesting too, since JMM has settled into the division. I doubt FM is interested though, he has a solid win over him already.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:31 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Again I would like to thank peeps like SREDMOND for mentioning my name in every boxing thread, to trump my undeniable GREATNESS and BRAVERY, to the unbelieving g@y biaatches.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:28 pm 


Anonymous

Well say something about jmm that never been said. Hard huh?

Posted May 18, 2014 3:17 pm 


RapidFire

Lmao Floyd’s name is being mentioned in almost every article hes had confrontation with..

Posted May 18, 2014 3:14 pm 


Anonymous

Marquez should fight Floyd again, this time he got his weight done the right way, LOL but Floyd will not fight him now that he got a dangerous right hook. Floyd allergy to fighter that have a ko punch.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:13 pm 


Mike Tyson

Bear I copied why post. Below.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:07 pm 


Mike Tyson

why

Bears you are a moron. You can’t compare the two fights. Rios didn’t throw a damn punch back. He was there just to showcase pac.

Why you crack me up. He was missing all night, PAC made him look sloppy and was missing punches and eating lots of punches in return, that the advance way to fight a charging fighter.. Floyd instead was doing it the hard way and slugging it out, and was a few times on the short end of the stick. HA…….

Posted May 18, 2014 3:06 pm 


Anonymous

Sorby is a boxing analyst? He hit Alvarado with the same punch that knocked out pac except for the muscles? Seriously? Pac ran into a punch from the best technician in the game besides Floyd Mayweather for example JMM did the same to the baby bull Diaz. Remember that? Time to go watch some classic Tommy Hearn’s fights on you tube boy was his right hand ripped and muscular….

Posted May 18, 2014 3:05 pm 


New Found Glory

While Pacquiao’s punching power has diminished moving up in weight, Marquez’s punching power seemed to have increased temendously and at his age, Marquez sure to have a lot of POP in those hands. It is quite the opposite of what one would think. A PAC vs JMM 5 would be a disadvantageous for Pac since JMM has a more dangerous and lethal punch now than previous outings. Both fighters should insist that a random blood testing should take place for both of their safety.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:04 pm 


Truth Hurts

MarPEDs was pumped so full of powerful drugs last night that his toxic piss could be used as lighter fluid at the family BBQ tonight

Posted May 18, 2014 3:04 pm 


Mike Tyson

Marquez the fight before he fought Floyd he weight in at 138 lb at at 140 at lb jr welter weight he fought at. And gain 7 lb to fight Floyd at 145 lb. Floyd came in at 147 lb and rehydrated back to over 150 lb. so if you count this fight you have to count PAC and Oscar fight,

Posted May 18, 2014 2:58 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Thank you SREDMOND, Boxtradamus, and PEEJ for being my most loyal dedicated fan boys and overhyping my career 24/7 to astronomical proportions. I really should be paying you 3 for all the propaganda & spin you post on boxing sites and put you brothas on the Money Team payroll. Keep up the great work my brothas and I’ll have 1 of my hoes send you an autographed poster.Know what im sayin?

Posted May 18, 2014 2:53 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

err, SREDMOND the loss of Marquez to Floyd Mayweather is not as clear as claimed, because I did not intend to honor the catchweight. It is not my fault that Marquez would really think I am serious about following the fool’s catchweight, or was he ??

Posted May 18, 2014 2:50 pm 


Anonymous

Ped are perfect for developing a right hand rocket.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:44 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Pacquiao is not on my level so I need not prove myself to him. Tell them that SREDMOND, I know you are good at that bro.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:38 pm 


Floyd Mayweather

Thank You SREDMOND for your undying and loyal support. I knew I could count on you to stick with me through thick and thin. Again thank you brotha.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:35 pm 


Mayweather 44-2

Hi, Void* here. I got spanked by Castillo and Maidana, but I can’t lose a decision in Vegas where there’s too much money riding on me to be allowed to lose, y’all, get real! It’s a business and I gotta keep my 0. I got all these chumps and fanboys today calling me The Best Ever. and even I got to laugh at that one! I am the House Fighter in Vegas, I can’t lose unless I get KO’d! I ain’t facing Manny either because I could lose that one!!

Posted May 18, 2014 2:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Why guys are bashing an old man like JMM for going out and dishing blows to fighters is beyond me:..Face it Manny could not finish the Old Mexican Warrior so the Old
man finished him that night!! NO EXCUSES the guy was 39 when he capped PAC Man, Marquez has to get his due, he is easily one of the Greatest boxers this era has produced.. Having only ONE clear loss to Mayweather who is the best the era has produced..

Posted May 18, 2014 2:17 pm 


K2 Fan

Is everyone as sick about reading about Alvarado as I am ?

Posted May 18, 2014 2:13 pm 


Shane

JMM is wanting to hang his career on a lucky punch from ped enhanced power. He knows he will lose the next fight by stoppage, he was almost stopped before his Rahman shot. Oh well. Still the biggest crybaby in boxing.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:01 pm 


Mike Tyson

Good win for Marquez he rated just under Bradley because of his size and work rate. Hop he retire and retire with a clean mind that losing to pc again in a close fight as they will allway be close. Because he know PAC too well.and styles.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:59 pm 


Mike Tyson

Roach said PAC was 150 fight for Bradley so 154 WW fight is ok. PAC will be under.the problem is what weight can Martinez rehydrate too. Margarito was 165 lb that 12 lb he rehydrated .
So Martinez at catch w. 154 lb could be 166 lb or more if he can rehydrate more than 12 like Chavez can. That the spooky part that why they would want a catch weight fight at 150lb 12 lb would be 162 or more rehydrated. Fair if Martinez team want it. Better that rematch see where PAC stands.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:54 pm 


Say “NO” to DRUG TESTING!

PacROID* is gonna request Martinez to come down to 145! If Martinez is smart he wont fall for the ole’ oke doke from Team-PEDquiao*. Arum will see to it that the very low catch-weight gets done – its his job!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:44 pm 


Mike Tyson

Marquez will get the losing decission call again. The champ has to be beating bady to lose. Look at the Bradley first fight, pac wasn’t beaten badly and he lost. Pac shouldn’t have that lost on his record

And MGM benefit for that lost a Floyd became more valuable.a couple thousand million.they even gave him a new car. And they are building a new boxing arena. I would bet the judge that gave the win to Bradley got a few million in a bonus or gifts.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:34 pm 


Mike Tyson

Really they is no need for another fight, same as maidana, why waste 1/2 year on a fight you know who will win. These champ are a few fight and gone. I want to see PAC vs Martinez.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:25 pm 


Danni

Q

Danni: Hmmm, I don’t agree. The only fight I definitely thought Marquez won was the first one. He was dropped 3 times in the first round, but I felt like he won most all the other rounds, personally. However, there was a scoring error and Manny was supposed to have that W barring that error. The second fight I had for Manny although it was close. And even though I think the 3rd could have went to JMM, I didn’t see it as a robbery. Basically JMM lost every fight besides the 4th one, and he was fortunate in that one. Barring that one big stopping shot manny slipped into, JMM clearly wasn’t going to make it out of that fight without being stopped. I’d favor Manny to win a 5th fight as well.
Posted May 18, 2014 1:05 pm

Most people (and I’m talking about Pro Boxers and Trainers) seem to think the third fight was the one fight that JMM could be seen as the clearer victor.

Manny should win the 5th fight. Hey, he should have won the IV and III given JMM age and supposed decline. After all, why else did Roach/Team Pac keep waiting before each rematch? TIMING. That’s their key to many of their fights the set up- TIMING. It just caught up to them with a perfectly timed right punch.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:25 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Rios landed one good hard shot on Pac, but he didn’t get seriously hurt, knocked down or anything. Pac still won that round and the minutes surrounding that one shot.
Bradley beat JMM yet was thoroughly outclassed and dominated by Pac — twice.

Arum wants Pac vs. FMJ more than anything in the world. Because he’s a greedy MFer and all he cares about his making as much $$$ as possible. And Pac vs. FMJ would definitely be the richest fight in history and break all PPV records. So of course Arum wants that fight FAR MORE more than JMM 5. Because if Pac were to lose the 5th, FMJ would have yet another excuse as to why he shouldn’t have to fight Pac. That’s obvious and goes without saying.

The guys claiming that Arum is preventing the fight are totally clueless and/or lying to hide Floyd’s shameless ducking. Arum doesn’t give a rats @$$ if Pac takes another loss. All he cares about is milking Pac for every cent he’s worth before he retires. That’s just the ugly business of boxing and some fans just don’t get it.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:21 pm 


Mike Tyson

Sorry Had to goggle it LOL………

Posted May 18, 2014 1:18 pm 


Mike Tyson

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Posted May 18, 2014 1:17 pm 


Mike Tyson

7 wins 1 lost. Also got Marquez throwing his favorite punch the right lead follow with the left uppercut might drop alevero if hit square. See tumbo it’s a blindly thrown punch whenever he think he coming in, how many times did he throw it? Quite a few.

All the same I don’t want PAC to fight him again as again he can’t win. It ok he won but another fight needed .
And jmm can’t win too. It likely to be another close fight and the champion has to be beaten convincing. And jmm can’t do that
Again, ko. So he will lose a decission and go out feeling sour.

PAC need to fight Martinez let see what catch weight they will offer. It’s a win win fight.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:09 pm 


Q

Danni: Hmmm, I don’t agree. The only fight I definitely thought Marquez won was the first one. He was dropped 3 times in the first round, but I felt like he won most all the other rounds, personally. However, there was a scoring error and Manny was supposed to have that W barring that error. The second fight I had for Manny although it was close. And even though I think the 3rd could have went to JMM, I didn’t see it as a robbery. Basically JMM lost every fight besides the 4th one, and he was fortunate in that one. Barring that one big stopping shot manny slipped into, JMM clearly wasn’t going to make it out of that fight without being stopped. I’d favor Manny to win a 5th fight as well.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:05 pm 


Floydiots are Fools

anyone who says “pactard” is a floydiot and f-ckin fool!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:48 pm 


PEEJ

Pac admitted to being hurt by Rios, got hurt against Bradley also. Bradley came on looking to knock him out and had no plan B. After round 6 he was already spent. Marquez is not begging for a 5th fight. Arum is wanting the fight.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:48 pm 


Q

Martin: Well, there ain’t no CAN in RuSIAN, so he would have a valid point.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:40 pm 


Jack Jones

I would love to see Marquez step in the ring with Broner. I would pay 100 bucks PPV to see the beat down. Seriously I would. But the truth Broner has to at someone out of the Top ten to fight with a record of 26 and 6 and 4 Ko’s Lol….

Posted May 18, 2014 12:12 pm 


Danni

Martin

Health is very important. Most fighters fight way to long. And then they lose their money.

I always think of Mike Tyson. By 20, he was Champion. By 23, undisputed Champion and worth millions with a trust set up so that he would have a lot of money coming in every year after he reaches a certain age. Biggest Star Athlete in the World. Today’s fighters and even athletes don’t compare to his Star Power at his peak. He was able to generate money outside of the ring (before Don King). He was set. What Tyson should have done was to retire early if he didn’t want to go on and start hitting the books, hiring teachers to school him in the ways of education, talking to self-made successful businessman on how they made their money and especially keep their money, and so on.

You can’t keep your money if you are not educated to do so. And you especially can’t keep your money if your Brain is damaged from fighting.

Make your Money and get out.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:08 pm 


Jack Jones

Lol….. Pactards are all crazy on here. Marquez owes Manny no fight period. After that KO thats it no mas! YOu all crying over a rematch with a 41 year old man. how pathetic.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:07 pm 


albeziel

I feel so happy for JMM but not interested in seeing him fight Pac again. JMM is a living legend, one of the best Mexican champions indeed

Posted May 18, 2014 12:04 pm 


Another sad day for Pactards

Please please….I want to see Marquez and Broner, or PACdude and Porter.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:02 pm 


Martin

*Though* I’m pretty sure he won’t, even…

Posted May 18, 2014 12:00 pm 


Martin

Would be fun to watch Marquez beat the crap out of Broner — especially given the latter’s comment after the Molina fight — but he definitely has nothing left to prove and should probably just retire and look after his health and family now. (Thought I’m pretty sure he won’t.)

As for Broner, the fighter we’d *really* like to see him in with, of course, is Provodnikov, but there’s no way he’ll take that fight, despite all his BS about how “anyone CAN get it”. (Perhaps his excuse will be: “There ain’t no ‘CAN’ in ‘RussIAN’”?)

Posted May 18, 2014 11:59 am 


Say “NO” to DRUG TESTING!

Wow! Look at this guys face! As little as Marquez looked against Alvarado, his punches were definitely bigger! This power & technique is what PacROID* has had to deal with in 4 fights already! Probably a 5th fight wont be so bad after all. Marquez looked absolutely great with his combinations – I cant believe this guy is in his 40s. This is one of the GREATEST MEXICAN champs EVER!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 11:57 am 


Danni

I would be in favor of another fight between Pac/JMM. why not. Old school fighters used to fight each other a bunch of times and it wasn’t as close as those fights.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:56 am 


Danni

The Truth

All we have to do is look at the facts, the numbers.

How long did it take for Pac to rematch JMM the first time?

how about the second time?

how about the third time?

Posted May 18, 2014 11:52 am 


Danni

Corrections, I shouldn’t just say “fans don’t agree with the scorecards” as I more so mean, Pro Fighters and Trainers as they are the better indicators of knowledgeable view points.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:51 am 


Danni

Popkins

Disagree. There are enough people that see the JMM/Pac battles as so close, that fans don’t agree with the score-cards. Not only that, but the win over Pac last time out, was the only KO in the battles. So right now, Pac won more battles on paper by the judges score-cards, but the War was won by JMM.

Pac needs JMM more than JMM needs Pac

Overall, Pac has the greater legacy in terms of ATG standings.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:49 am 


Popkins

Manny is 2:1 against JMM. The Mexican has been floored 5 times during their 4 fights – Pacman, twice. Bradley whupped Marquez. Manny schooled Tim twice. Juan is a great fighter, but Pacman is a ring LEGEND. Marquez needs another win over Manny more than the Filipino needs a 3rd victory over Marquez.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:42 am 


The Truth

PACTARDs scream he’s a Coward for not giving PACMAN an immediate rematch.PACTARDs also call him a PEDophile.Now let’s see I believe PACMAN made JMM wait for years to get his first rematch and I think its funny how PACMAN hasn’t knocked anyone out since being accused of also using PEDs…So who’s the COWARD and the CHEAT I think its obvious. PACTARDs your Whine doesn’t get better with time its in DECLINE like your precious PACMAN.”THE WANNABE T.B.E”

Posted May 18, 2014 11:29 am 


Livershot

I say “No!” to a JMM vs MP V. They are equal fighters and are just made for one another style wise. That last blast that JMM put MP out was a perfect shot, fight 5 would have Manny being more defensive and less engaging. JMM should retire with this win and call it a career. Pacquiao should do the same or give the young bloods a chance at making a name. Thurman, Porter, Maidana, Kahn, Rios, Broner or Garcia. Floyd doesn’t factor in any of these fights unless he wants to help promote them. Mayweather is looking for the right cash cow not the best fight. He’s a business man and their is nothing wrong with that. Let JMM and MP give a young Lion a chance.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:24 am 


Martin

@Dcastro454:

“I guess the PEDs also help to put those combinations together…. Pendejo.”

Exactamente.

Posted May 18, 2014 11:14 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

To set the record straight: It’s JMM whose begging for a 5th fight with PacMan — not Arum or Top Rank.

PacMan won every minute of every round vs. Rios. He battered him silly, turned him into a punching bag, and made his face swell-up like “the elephant man.”

This was a great win for JMM, but he did NOT win every minute of every round. He lost 2 or 3 rounds and got blasted with a hard shot and knocked on his @$$. Plus he lost to Bradley, whereas Pac totallly outclassed Bradley — twice.

JMM looked impressive for 40, but I think he’s lost a little speed and maybe half a step. But he looked fast because he was in the ring with a very slow WW. I still think Pac will outbox and beat JMM if they fight again. But I don’t really don’t care to see a 5th fight; I’d much rather see FMJ finally man-up and face Pac.

If FMJ can beat Pac he needs to PROVE IT — once and for all! After all, he calls himself “Money” and it would definitely be the richest fight in history and the biggest pay day of FMJ’s career. What is he so damn afraid of???

Posted May 18, 2014 11:00 am 


obbieman

Marquez is one of the greatest Mexican warriors, surpassing Morales and Barrera in longevity. Years ago, it was said that Morales didn’t want to have anything to do with Marquez. Barrera softened up in his later fights. Morales aged quickly. But Marquez is looking more and more impressive at 40. Took on a much bigger guy and didn’t flinch. No matter what happens from now, I conclude that Marquez had better careers (and made a lot more money) than Morales or Barrera.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:37 am 


SuckerPunch

If I was Marquez I would say “screw arum” and not fight Pacquiao in china. I smell a screw job in the works. I would say “If pacquiao really wants to avenge his loss he can fight me in Mexico. Then we’ll see how he feels knowing the judges are going to screw him”. Plus it is a much more profitable venue than Macau, China.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:33 am 


8675309

This sredmond character is so stupid that keeps saying Mayweather will beat Pacquiao. IF HE CAN BEAT PACQUIAO HE WOULD HAVE FOUGHT HIM ALREADY…….. understand the words that are coming out of my mouth ????

Posted May 18, 2014 10:31 am 


SREDMOND

In the 12th round against Alvarado, Marquez was going for the KO, against Rios Manny was backing off just like Bradley told him
During “face off” with Kellerman..PAC won every second of that fight but his psyche is not intact post KO loss..

Posted May 18, 2014 10:28 am 


SREDMOND

Provo stopped Alvarado and made
Him quit which is a terrific result..Marquez chopped him up and outboxed him another very strong result..Obviously a stoppage trumps Marquez WIDE UD just like Marquez
Knocking PAC COLD trumps that razor thin win in the 3rd fight…

Posted May 18, 2014 10:25 am 


Fighter87

Now if Bob arum wants to try to pressure Marquez for a 5th fight with pacquiao if I’m Marquez 12 -15mill or No fight!!! Pacquiao has no one really left at top rank other than the Russian to fight.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:24 am 


Jonn E. JaGozza

He fooled me and actually looked good, much quicker than a forty year old fighter should look. I like what I saw with him..Onhe undercared I liked what I saw with Postol, but Aydin should have won that fight, he has so much power but as I wrote in another posting, one can’t expect to win a fight with the arsenal of only one power punch; a left hook. Whenever he tried throwing the right hand, it landed but he kept on returning to his power punch the left hook.After a while, if an opponent knows you have a one punch arsenal, he’ll figure out rather quickly how to neutralize it. I don’t blame Aydin but rather, his trainer
This guy needs another trainer and if he had pressure Postol the way Maidana pressured Mayweather and Broner he would have KO’d Postol rather easiiy… Boxingdictionary.com …”The Language of the Ring”

Posted May 18, 2014 10:23 am 


SREDMOND

Adrian, being a Manny fan does
Not mean I am gonna pretend I
Think he can beat Mayweather who is just a better fighter, nor am I gonna pretend that Marquez did not slaughter him last fight..! Marquez did look STIFF against a young Bradley who can move laterally..Did he beat the hell out of Alvarado? YES that happened simply reporting the facts you are entitled to your suicide of you cannot handle the real deal..

Posted May 18, 2014 10:22 am 


Dcastro454

I guess the PED’s also help to put those combinations together…. Pendejo.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:17 am 


Adrian

Sredmond , lol yeah when Marquez loses from Bradley he gets “old” and you don’t like to compare his fight with Bradley and PAC vs Bradley but now you say @ Marquez is not worried if he gets knocked out” like paqiao against rios , and you say you are a PAC fan???? Gtfo !!! Who are you kiding ?? You think we forgot how you criticize and talk bs about paqiao in every possible article including this one ? Pfffff….

Ok what how do you think Provo did against Alvarado , did he do better then Marquez??

Posted May 18, 2014 10:15 am 


8675309

Juan Manuel Marquez should step up to the plate and face the music. He should give Pacquiao the chance to avenge his knockout, not run away like a coward, and face a damaged Mike Alvarado. Alvarado’s reflexes were as sloooow as chit.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:15 am 


8675309

Alvarado is DAMAGED GOODS after Provodnikov was done with him. JMM would not have a chance to whine as he will surely toy with the hapless Mike Alvarado.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:08 am 


The Voice of Boxing

Regarding the fight with Floyd. Manny should sit back and wait for Floyd to fight NOT on a Mexican Holiday, Not against a Mexican fighter and NOT with a loaded card. Then we will see what he really draws on his own. Then they can finally decide the split. As an American Floyd should get better PPV here but Manny is way more popular worldwide and draws more. So it could be again be an even split.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:05 am 


The Voice of Boxing

Frazier, Norton and Spinks beat Ali in their first fights but they were not the draws and did not get more than Ali in any of the rematches. In boxing even if you are the champ but are not a major draw, no way you will get the larger pay.
Why do you Floydbots, pre-programmed, unable to think on your own, other than what your master allows you, insist that Marquez gets more than Manny. The only time he ever got more than $1,000,000 is his last few fights with Manny and his fight with Floyd.
I suspect Floyd uses illegal stuff and that is why (a) he was fighting once a year (b) only in Las Vegas and (c) insists only on USADA. It is a fact that they cover up for him because he pays extra and that Las Vegas does not want to lose that revenue. Gabriel Montoya of Maxboxing and Thomas Hauser of The Sweet Science both gave details of this.
I suspect Marquez used PEDS because he was so obsessed with beating Manny that he would have done anything to win. He fears the beating he was getting before that “solar punch” landed. That is why he refused a rematch. Note now he beat Alvarado he is still afraid. This is a guy who desperately wants to be the 1st Mexican to win 5 divisions but still afraid to face Manny.
I would not sit here and say Manny definitely was not on PEDS because I do not know. No one has written any article like Montoya and Hauser detailing proof. I do know as a skinny guy he was koing guys long before he hooked up with Roach and Ariza.
The only 1 punch ko in 7 yrs was Hatton who was hit very clean. Oscar was beaten down; so was Cotto. Clottey covered up the whole fight. Mosley got dropped and ran like a chicken. Mosley was recently stopped for the 1st time ever. Margarito was stopped by Mosley but brutalized by Manny who backed off not to kill the guy. Marquez has never been stopped and neither has Bradley. Neither has Rios who got battered.
Only Marquez has traded with Manny recently and he koed Manny with new power? He never had Manny in trouble. He was dropped many times and seemed on his way out before that solar punch. Although I feel he was on PEDS I cannot say for sure. I do know he no longer has the huge muscle definition. And why did he defiantly refuse the testing vs Bradley?
No way he deserves more than Manny. No way Manny should even fight him. As the a-side Floyd correctly refused to let Maidana use his gloves. As the a-side Manny should play hard ball. Marquez needs him more than he needs Marquez and dictate Marquez’s pay and strict PEDS testing.

Posted May 18, 2014 10:03 am 


Exiled Yank

I do not want JMM MP 5! As far as I’m concerned they are equals in the ring and another fight will not prove anything. But I won’t blame JMM if the money is right – he does need to take care of his and his family’s future.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:42 am 


Fighter87

The great Marquez does it again!
Now if Bob arum wants to try to pressure Marquez for a 5th fight with pacquiao if I’m Marquez 12 -15mill or No fight!!! Pacquiao has no one really left at top rank other than the Russian to fight.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:30 am 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Good win for JMM! But just about everyone expected him to get the UD, so the result was no surprise. He looked great last night, but Alvarado is a B-level fighter at best. He’s slow and limited in several areas of his game.

In all objectivity, I think PacMan looked more impressive against Rios — because he won every round. JMM totally outclassed Alvarado, but still lost 2 or 3 rounds and even got knocked down. I don’t think there’s much need for Pac vs. JMM 5, so if he wants another title…he should try to get a fight with Porter.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:25 am 


Jake

Marquez is great, but clearly on PEDs. How about that new acne all over his back and chest?

Posted May 18, 2014 9:12 am 


Longrob

Marquez is a beast. No need for a 5th fight with Manny. We will most likely see a more tentative Pacman, and another unclear result.

Posted May 18, 2014 9:03 am 


dwc

Marques vs Pac…number 5 coming up???

Posted May 18, 2014 9:01 am 


Livershot

Holy mismatch Batman! On paper and his last outing against Bradley one would believe that JMM was getting old and his time is up. Alvardo’s camp was probably seeing the same thing, hell I even posted several times for JMM to retire. Which I believe he should still do. I felt youth would be served in this fight and that the Master Boxer JMM would be too old to keep up or fire with Alvarado. It was a crafty old school master holding class last night. Fainting, slipping and slidding side to side, popping off combinations and a sneaky lead right hands. Alvarado was game but seemed to be a step or two behind JMM. I was shocked that JMM had that type of fight left in him at age 42, maybe he is drinking from the same fountain as Hopkins is. Alvarado was a game fighter and showed he was there to win and even floored the legend JMM, he showed heart just couldn’t get it done. I can’t help but wonder if the three brutal fights before this one has taken something off Alvarado. Rios I & II were instant classics and took some brutal shots against Provo. JMM makes it four fights that he has endured some heavy shots. Hats off to Alvarado for taking these fights and going toe to toe. I haven’t seen a fighter like this since the late Arturo Gatti may he rest in peace. Alvarado has a warriors heart and is well spoken something Arreola and Rios can learn from. You don’t have to swear or talk smack to be heard. Alvarado a true boxing professional.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:46 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, hour such a biased fool is sad! That’s pretty much was a clinic by Marquez he beat the hell out of Alvarado who looked like his cheek was busted and went down HARD, JMM has been absorbing flash KD’s
And NO ONE including 2 BONAFIDE ATG’s have kept him down (PAC and Mayweather) comparing PAC vs Rios and Marquez vs Alvarado is dumb, but fact is that Manny went in the ring worries about getting stopped and despite being old as dirt Marquez just does not care and is not haunted by nearly getting killed in the ring.. Why the hell do you hate Marquez for knocking out Manny? That’s boxing ! Whenever your guy loses we see this BS from you, I am a huge PAC Man fan, but Marquez tore him a NEW ONE..

Posted May 18, 2014 8:41 am 


Jack Brunson

My grandma could have knocked Pacquiao out if she caught him while he was charging in like Marquez did.

Posted May 18, 2014 8:38 am 


belly

postol is fantastic and will be champion soon

Posted May 18, 2014 7:39 am 


Martin

Anyway, muchas felicidades to the living legend Marquez on a truly scintillating, masterful performance.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:37 am 


Martin

Go ahead an compare the two punches, i.e. Marquez KOing Pacquiao and Marquez knocking down Alvarado: “the identical shot”??!!

Pathetic article from a pathetic “writer”.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:34 am 


Martin

Disgraceful article. Not only does it fail to mention how superb Marquez was throughout, and what an incredibly exciting fight it was, but even uses the opportunity to insinuate that Marquez only beat Pacquiao because he “must have” been on PEDs:

“Alvarado was knocked down by a scorching right hand from Marquez in the 8th. It was the identical shot that Marquez used to knock Manny Pacquiao out cold in the 6th round of their fight in 2012. The different here is that Marquez didn’t have the muscles that he had then.”

Yeah, bother the complete lack of any kind of evidence.

F u c k off Sorby, you talentless hack.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:32 am 


alaeddinx@gmail.com

A dude whose only purpose was to be k.oed could not have found a better way than losing so much weight in so short a time.

Posted May 18, 2014 7:29 am 


Jack Jones

How about Broner vs Marquez!!! Broner seems to like Mexicans. So heres one for him. lol….

Posted May 18, 2014 7:07 am 


RAYGORDON REID

good

Posted May 18, 2014 7:01 am 


SLIM

Been there beat that already!

Posted May 18, 2014 6:00 am 


punch

@bears sure it isn’t the amateurs but barring a KO or knockdowns and given the fact that a punching-power measuring devise isn’t present in gloves, a judge is obliged to give the fight to the more active boxer and not the one who punches harder.

Posted May 18, 2014 4:49 am 


The Truth

Adrian:

Those are great matchups.

Posted May 18, 2014 4:45 am 


USA #1

European sport is gangrened by mafia! dirty money/drugs/doping, racism, intimidation, killing!

SHAMEFUL!

Posted May 18, 2014 4:05 am 


Adrian

Marquez vs Provo would be interesting

Another match up I would like to see is Bradley vs porter

Posted May 18, 2014 4:04 am 


Gr33nFather

Fighters with suspect chin need to avoid guys like Provodnikov at all costs!

Posted May 18, 2014 3:49 am 


Lenin

Next. Floyd Mayweather vs. Marquez! It’s the chance to put Pac to shame! How about it, Money?

Posted May 18, 2014 3:35 am 


matthews

A win over a guy that got his ass beat in the last fight and you got dropped by him. All you have is pac. Get ready for testing. Keep the piss on ice.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:35 am 


TinggelNiPacquiao

Pacquiao is already feeding himself with PEDS!!! Pac asks Bob Arum to make Marquez an offer he will refuse so Pac will be saved from getting knocked out in front of his wife again. PUTANG INA MO PACQUIAO, GINAWANG BABOY SA HARAP NG ASAWA PUTANG INA MO KA!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 3:21 am 


40 is the new 30

nobody would use peds if they are useless.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:12 am 


gumboot

@MK Don. Even peds wouldn’t improve your football team

Posted May 18, 2014 3:05 am 


Mastermind

Yes, absolutely correct.

Posted May 18, 2014 3:04 am 


MK DON

name 100 ped user in sports and 95 of them will be usa,

Posted May 18, 2014 2:59 am 


MK DON

usa home of peds in sports,

Posted May 18, 2014 2:57 am 


peter

Memo is not just an ordinary chemist, he is a scientist who admitted making 26 ped and masking agent….he made a 41 years old have a body builder physique which jmm have never possessed….VADA and USADA must work hand in hand to impose or make it mandatory to have testing on jmm fights…

Posted May 18, 2014 2:53 am 


MK DON

Myweather is king of [pe d alligations, pac on ped man, avoid pac man, pac with arum man, I won’t fight that pac man, I am scared man, he knock me out quick..

Posted May 18, 2014 2:48 am 


gumboot

Meanwhile, in breaking news, boxtra has had a mental enema but. Doctors report he and his opinions are still 100% sh1te

Posted May 18, 2014 2:40 am 


The Truth

Marquez skill level has always been better than pacquios.Its PACs power and speed that’s been problematic for him.I’m not at all shocked how Marquez schooled this chump.Its”Skills that pays the bills”.Here come the P.E.D allegations from the Pactards who don’t know how to give credit when credit is due…. Great fight tonight..Marquez a true Mexican Warrior.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:39 am 


peter

This was d guy that provo badly beaten and made him quit d fight….and yet jmm fought d quiter instead of d winner who challenged him….what does it tell you about jmm choosing a quiter instead of d champion provo….

Posted May 18, 2014 2:38 am 


peter

Memo has done it again by turning jmm at 41 into body builder physique overnight…jmm should be tested by vada for anabolic..

Posted May 18, 2014 2:27 am 


MK DON

Pacquiao put Myweather in a coma, don’t fight him Mayweather, yeah I take your advice pal, never fight that dude man, never any intention ever fight him, I money Mayweather, rip the suckr fans off man, I am circus act man, p4p 1 baby.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:27 am 


gumboot

Where the fcuk are my posts going?

Posted May 18, 2014 2:25 am 


40 is the new 30

It will not be a fair fight if Pacquiao vs Marquez will fight again. Pacquiao’s puching power has diminished while Marquez’s punching power has increased at the age he is in. The way Marquez cloberred Alvarado with that punch like a baseball bat is truly scary and dangerous. Pacquiao needs to be very careful with JMM.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:25 am 


Mike Tyson

sean p h. I first pick cotto he a better boxer body punch, and could hurt the knew again . But because he start too slow2 round and Sergio is dangerous at the last round. Pluse the way to fight martinez is inside and add points and outside just avoild getting hit. PAC is the best insider fighter.
Marquez if perfect for him margarito beat Martinez badly inside for 10 round till they threw in the towel. Arum ask about this fight with PAC. We will here about they catch weight offer after the fight.
This is the fight I want to see. Who need Floyd. And last Bradley fight roach said pac was 150 lb fight night and Bradley was close to 160 lb.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:25 am 


40 is the new 30

MK Maidana is the guy that exposed FLoyd to be overrated.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:23 am 


sean p h

If his piss tests positive i stand corrected. Show so respect to jmm. He has entertained us for 15 years.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:21 am 


40 is the new 30

Floyd is overrated. Thanks to the hype machine and fanboys Floyd is number 1 p4p

Posted May 18, 2014 2:20 am 


Eugthehuge

Bears, shut the f up. Marquez was bigger against Pacquio (4) than tonight, and it took him 3 years to get there (since his first welterweight fight), unlike others…

Posted May 18, 2014 2:18 am 


sean p h

Im a bodybuilder and im not seeing jmm being on any gear.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:18 am 


Dee

Damn, JMM is on the juice! NO doubts whatsoever on that! Great great fight from him! HE was AWESOME, but he on it.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:17 am 


MK DON

Mayweather p4p 1 whats that make Maidana, a crude slugger and he beat Ma.yweather really, p4p crock of sht

Posted May 18, 2014 2:16 am 


Mike Tyson

Maidana vs Marquez show Floyd how it done.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:15 am 


BEARS

jmm is probably stacking a couple run ofthe mill anabolics. his s & c probably an awesome post cycle therapy to get his labs back to normal levels

Posted May 18, 2014 2:14 am 


sean p h

I hear you mike. Martinez is very skill full but cotto might suprise us.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:13 am 


Boxtradamus

As BEARS just stated sometimes a guy is a turd and cant reach past a certain level SO you do the BEST you can knowing that he has limitations. There are not many trainers that can take a #0 P4P NON CHAMP and beat a Top 10 P4P Fighter with him. SO the challenge is to not get him knocked out or knocked down. Garcia DID a better job with Rios than Alvarado’s trainer DID tonight. Alvarado got knocked across the Ring. Rios stayed on his feet all night. No knockdowns vs a #0 P4P NON CHAMP is POOR for a Top 10 P4P Fighter.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:12 am 


BEARS

lol maybe the next big ped will be jmm’s urine.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:11 am 


sean p h

Ward is a far better boxer than floyd.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:11 am 


MK DON

Don’t mess with the Mexicans, Alvarado got beat up.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:10 am 


BEARS

punch- im not into weak andfeather fisted punchers jabing all day. this is not ameatur boxing where pitty pat scores u points

in fact i would think we could some sensors in gloves to tell us exactly how hard punches are landing and how often. then we could see the feather fisted turds are not doing much and not even count their punches til they register they have been landed hard enough to classify as a punch rather than something olive oil would throw

Posted May 18, 2014 2:10 am 


40 is the new 30

JMM punching power has certainly increased beyond belief even at the higher weight class and at his age. JMM urine must be very beneficial. I wonder if that will work wonders for me as well if I drink my own orange juice.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:09 am 


Mike Tyson

sean p h. Hard fight to call, I cycle around onces and might go with Martinez still.its cotto gasing out and Sergio getting stronger. Has to cotto early rounds and Martinez the later round,
Who is the better boxer? Both are boxer.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:09 am 


sean p h

Would like to see jmm return to lww. 147 is to much for him. 140 is best for jmm at his stage of career.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:08 am 


B Red

Adrian, go back to the sewage system where you drink from

Posted May 18, 2014 2:06 am 


Tony

Kind of old to get so many zits on ur back and chest wonder what jmm is taking

Posted May 18, 2014 2:06 am 


BEARS

no he does not have real experience he is just a rabid floyd and ward fan. i dont mean to be too hard on him and i fear i am at times sean. i care about all gods boxing fans. even thise who have gone astray and got a$$ banged and are not thinking strait. im like sheopard to the boxing flock. a voice in the dark. leading people back to sense and objectivity

Posted May 18, 2014 2:05 am 


Mike Tyson

Marquez could fight Floyd again, this time he don’t have to gain 7 lb . Floyd would take this fight again. why? still beside the weight Marquez is a counter punches and will not come inside but box and counter punch from outside. You can’t beat Floyd from outside If Marquez learn to trade inside he could very well drop Floyd too something Floyd would not expect.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:03 am 


Boxtradamus

Sean p h-Killing ME is irrelevant. Killing the FACTS is what’s relevant. And BEARS cannot kill the FACTS. Every EXPERT scored it for Mayweather and NO amount of posts here are going to change it. AMATEURS.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:02 am 


sean p h

Cotto martinez is gonna be a war.

Posted May 18, 2014 2:00 am 


Adrian

B red , sorry I know I promised your mom not to mention our ” thing” to you but you pushed me son.

You called me a troll you without even debating with you arrrrrs”hol!!

Posted May 18, 2014 2:00 am 


B Red

Adrian , im not Sredmond you imbecile, btw putting my mom in the convo is very childish you fookin troll azzhole

Posted May 18, 2014 1:57 am 


Boxtradamus

Garcia helped a #0 P4P NON CHAMP to not get knocked out vs the GREAT Manny Pacquiao. GREAT job Garcia!!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:57 am 


sean p h

Bears. Your killing box tonight. This guy have real experience?

Posted May 18, 2014 1:56 am 


Mike Tyson

Ok next fight up cotto vs Martinez . Think about your pick…

Posted May 18, 2014 1:56 am 


punch

If Popeye landed with just 1% but still failed to score a knock out even though his punches did more damage he would still lose on the scorecards. Though a judge takes the damage a punch does into consideration and might lean toward a fighter based on it but consistency gets higher notes. @Bear how many weak punches(jabs) equal one hard punch? I’ll wait whilst you figure it out.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:55 am 


Boxtradamus

Im not biatching about any fouls. Im teachng you how to score a Fight. Those illegal shots dont count. Thats called wasted energy. Use your energy to land legal shots since that can help you WIN. Landing shots to BALLS and back of the head is FUTILE. Maidana agrees with ME on that. Sam Peter agrees with ME TOO. SO does Zab Judah.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:54 am 


Mike Tyson

Do Marquez want a 5 th fight nope….. He could get another lost he consider a win as he alway do and retire angry.lol…….. Leave now.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:53 am 


think

Marquez is almost 41 years old. And fights against good fighters: Floyd, pacquiao, barrera,bradley,etc. And not run, not clinch, he really fights. He goes down and he get up, no to cover nor run, he get up to takes revange. Some idiots call him coward.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:53 am 


B Red

Triple G ducked Lara and Ward. Pac ducked Floyd because of the testing ya,dig

Posted May 18, 2014 1:53 am 


Adrian

Boxtradamus

“NO ONE has handled Maidana expertly since he has been trained by Garcia. Trainers are a factor in Boxing. Maidana was Undefeated with his new trainer until he ran into Mayweather. SO what everyone DID to Maidana under a different trainer is irrelevant. Just as what people DID to Pacquiao before he got with Roach is irrelevant and just as what they DID to Wlad before he got with Steward is irrelevant. Please learn more about Boxing.”

Ha ha ha … Another classic floyedidiots escusse ..
How about rios ? Couldn’t Garcia help rios not become paqiaos ” punching bag” or is this also ” irelavant ” for you because it dosent help your argument

Posted May 18, 2014 1:53 am 


Mike Tyson

What Floyd doing in a Marquez win thread? Please kiss he azz somewhere else please.
Maidana kick his butt back to humbleness. LOL…. After viewing the rematch he shtup up as usual.
And forgot maidana had the last insult, in other word he don’t want no rematch.

Oyea Iam 6 wins and 1 lost in fights called so far. Hump hump…..

Posted May 18, 2014 1:50 am 


BEARS

maidana pulled a chael sonnen and after that silva was no longer the same and got KTFO.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:50 am 


Adrian

B red ( Redmond ) you know who I am son , ask your mom

Posted May 18, 2014 1:48 am 


Boxtradamus

I’m not confused with anything. In Boxing 25% is not effective unless your landing the BETTER shots. Floyd landed 50% and landed the cleaner shots. Thats called EFFECTIVE. Its also called EFFICIENCY. And its also called WINNING. SO take YOUR pick. I pick all 3 as DID the EXPERTS. Thats why they all gave it to Floyd.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:47 am 


sean p h

Good win for the legend jmm.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:47 am 


BEARS

Boxtra thats true about world class trainers and gyms. But the old saying is also true “you can not polish a turd”

a turds a turd son. all you can do is flush the mother f***er. maidana was not even expected to beat broner. remember, you forecast the fight incorrectly? LOL

arreola could get with steward he is a still a C at best B level fighter, nobody was gonna save jermaine taylor not even the great emanuel steward. steward, roach, and garcia do not perform miracles son. they help cultivate a champion in someone who has it in them. and some people are just turds.

maidana did to broner what chael sonnen said he would do to anderson silva. walk up and punch him in the mouth. and by golly he did it. I do not think maidana has a big stretch in him. I firmly believe maidana will be put in his place. floyd just picked the wrong cherry. He picked a bad cherry.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:45 am 


Adrian

Boxtradamus

“Nope. Maidana made YOU look like an AMATEUR. Because every EXPERT had Floyd WINNING no questions”

Ha ha ha …. So one judge that had the score a draw was he an amateur right ? And stop biatcccching about Maidanas fouls because mayweather said he wanted that eh? “Toe to toe “? Hahahahahah toe to toe and then holds for dear life ! If you want garbage that’s garbage for you

Posted May 18, 2014 1:44 am 


Mike Tyson

Forgot about the fight today, busy, call it right again. Sounding like boxtra. O no… Said Marquez wins it, and he could drop alvarelo with the same right hand lead. It’s his favorite punch, follow with the left uppercut he wing it blindly when even he think someone coming in. Now you belive tumbo?

Posted May 18, 2014 1:44 am 


sean p h

Box tra what makes you a pro? Whats your style?

Posted May 18, 2014 1:40 am 


B Red

Adrian, are you a troll or a pactard?

Posted May 18, 2014 1:40 am 


BEARS

% means nothing boxtradamus. showstats credited fraud with merely 9 more landed punches and LESS power punches. that speaks volumes.

You get confused easy i know. you confuse terms like efficiency and effectiveness. your confused on percentages now. im gonna help you cause i care about your dumba$$.

Say olive oil throws 100 punches on popeye and lands 100 on popeye. then popeye eats a can of spinach, starts flailing about throwing wild punches in the air lets 99 and then winds up and blasts her with his 100th punch with his mustard and knocks her beyond the horizon. Olive would have landed 100% while popeye only landed 1% but popeyes offense was all that mattered because olive oils punches probably feel like a massage not a punch.

Nobody is ever thinking percentages when judging a fight. They would have to have some concept of how many punches thrown to how many landed not just for one guy but two. not only is noone doing that math (the network computer is) but its irrelevant. Sure you can look back on the information but it is what it is and its not a metric ANYONE judges by

Posted May 18, 2014 1:40 am 


Boxtradamus

NO ONE has handled Maidana expertly since he has been trained by Garcia. Trainers are a factor in Boxing. Maidana was Undefeated with his new trainer until he ran into Mayweather. SO what everyone DID to Maidana under a different trainer is irrelevant. Just as what people DID to Pacquiao before he got with Roach is irrelevant and just as what they DID to Wlad before he got with Steward is irrelevant. Please learn more about Boxing.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:40 am 


B Red

Alvarez is a C Level fighter. Juan is a great fighter. Bears what is wrong with you? Madonna loss the fight, unless you think headbutts low blows knees rabbit punching and tackles are part of the equation.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:37 am 


Adrian

Boxtradomus , ha ha ha …were we are at now these days …. comparing Maidana “skills” with mayweather ‘s …. How about mentioning mayweather holdings and elbow pushing ?since we are comparing their skills and fauls …

Posted May 18, 2014 1:36 am 


Boxtradamus

EVERY credible EXPERT scored the Fight for Floyd and I can list them IF I need to. EXPERTS don’t score grazing shots and illegal punches over clean sharp shots. But AMATEURS DO. Thats why most guys that gave it to Maidana were AMATEURS.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:35 am 


strategy

Boxtradamous, Look at all the other guys that beat Maidana, they handled him “expertly” and they neutralized Maidana’s rough way of fighting, but how about Floyd? isn’t Floyd supposed to be the Master Boxer, Master of none, The Best Ever? Clearly Floyd got embarrassed by Maidana anyway u look at it.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:35 am 


BEARS

If all your gonna do is nuthugg, can you take it elsewhere boxtradamus?

we appreciate it buddy. I’m gonna make some boxing video tutorials for you on youtube to help you out with the conversion from the subjective to the objective. Then you will be an A-1, first class, triple distilled poster like me :)

Posted May 18, 2014 1:32 am 


Boxtradamus

GOOD try by Maidana but he needs to learn how to land more than 25% next time. And also learn how to not wrestle SO much and stop kicking and punching to the BALLS since you can’t punch to the CHIN. Practice not punching to the back of the head because that doesn’t count. Be more like Floyd and learn how to land your shots to the FACE.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:30 am 


Phil Texan

Marquez vs Pacquiao is definitely coming for their 5th . . . .Alvarado is slow and throw less and less punches , . . .Manny Pacquiao can definitely beat Marquez the next time around.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:29 am 


BEARS

I would not say “thats why floyd won on “every” (again another maxim) experts score card.

I would say floyd won in las vegas, in his house, with american judges/his judges more or less, and his ref, in his country.

Had that fight been in Argentina with Argentinian judges I think you would rethink “every experts score card. Pluse you are omitting floyds dirty tactics employed and the ref always stopping the action and splitting them when maidaina got inside. maybe maidana was fighting two people in the ring huh?

You are so biased its UNREAL boxtra. you are more or less just a bot posting the same sh!t over and over sredmond style.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:29 am 


whatever

PAC wins against Marquez by UD. PAC has learned not to be too confident because ANYONE in boxing can get a lucky knock out punch or be the victim of one. ANYONE… So, because PAC is now never underestimating anyone, he will soundly beat marquez.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:29 am 


ordinary boxing fan

Marquez-Pacquiao will not happen. Its the turn of Pacquiao to deny Marquez the $$$ after Pacquiao was denied an immediate rematch. Tired of this fight. Its a replay of fight 1,2,3,4.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:28 am 


strategy

Box The expert scored it for Floyd because there is this unwritten rule thing that in order for you to beat someone especially with someone that has the popularity of FLoyd, you have to beat knock him out or win convincingly. I believe Maidana won a close fight but the expert, operating on the unwritten rule, scored the win for Floyd. That’s why FLoyd won.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:27 am 


BEARS

All you have to do is type in maidana vs floyd mayweather in google to find out what people thought about the fight and i can assure you not “everyone” (another maxim by boxtra) is agreeing with boxtra. not even “most” people. consensus of “objective” fans are calling it at best a draw. People i revere make a good a case that maidana won it.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:25 am 


Boxtradamus

Maidana didn’t connect many GOOD shots but he landed alot of illegal shots which don’t count. He also landed alot of grazing shots that are LESSER than clean shots. IF Floyd’s shots where few and far in between then Maidana’s were FEWER and FARTHER in between. Thats why Floyd WON on every EXPERTS scorecard.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:24 am 


white boy day

Mayweather and pacquaio wear panties with dickholes in em

Posted May 18, 2014 1:22 am 


strategy

Box, Floyd didn’t look like the best ever when he faught Maidana. In fact Maidana just embarrassed Floyd. Imagine that, a one dimensional boxer, a walking punching bag, non p4p boxer who was supposed to be an easy fight for floyd but look what happened? Floyd got embarrassed.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:22 am 


BEARS

and you seen how jmm just does not want to go down, how he almost went down against bradley and how alvarado almost dropped him too. Mayweather could not even almost drop jmm. then pac drops the dude THREE TIMES IN ONE ROUND!!!!!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:21 am 


strategy

Box was clearly talking about himself when he said about emotions on the scoring?

Posted May 18, 2014 1:20 am 


BEARS

“Floyd landed all the sharp shots”………….its clearly you looking at floyd vs maidana in an emotonally biased slant boxtra. Thats why you use such maxims as “all”. Of course thats not true. Its a biased exaggeration. Thats why a judge had it a draw which was closer to the “truth”.

Sh!t if boxtradamus was the judge he/she would be worse than judge adelaide byrd. Floyd could be laying a coma in the middle of the ring paramedics rushing in and he would say floyd won every round. Even landing the “sharp” shots. LOL!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:19 am 


Boxtradamus

You can scream garbage all you want. The EXPERTS agree with ME that Mayweather isn’t only the BEST WW. He’s the BEST Boxer on the planet period. Thats why they all rate him #1 P4P. And Bears screaming garbage won’t convince anyone to change it. As a matter of FACT the AMATEUR screaming garbage further validate the ranking as we all want to make sure we are on the opposite side of the AMATEUR.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:19 am 


strategy

Box Clean shot does not win u fights specially when they are too few and far in between. Maidana got many clear shots also, not just in the head but body of May also. Face of Floyd got touched up a lot also which is an indication strong punches where connecting.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:18 am 


BEARS

All i know is it seems like a motiff in pacman vs jmm that pac just always knock jmm down. When you knock a dude down 3 times in one round its pretty BADA$$!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:15 am 


strategy

Boxtradmous , In both of their previous fights 1,2,3, Marquez, PAC said they would both knock each others out…same also in number 4. it was routine to say those things.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:15 am 


Boxtradamus

Strategy you scored the Fight by emotions instead of by clean shots. Floyd landed 99% of the sharp shots in the Fight. Thats why he WON. And its only the AMATEURS that argue other wise. Anyone having Maidana WINNING has no concept of how a Boxing match is scored SO stick to a Sport where they have a scoreboard where all you have to DO is look UP at the score. You don’t score TOO well.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:14 am 


BEARS

Floyds not even in the equation. he got murked by a B level fighter who is now ranked higher on lists boxtradamus revers than jmm!!!

the jury is in on mayweather. He either fought 130 pounders and used size and strength, or he got people out of retirement, or he fought people who should have been in retirement, or he boiled the fight right out of them with bogus catchweights creating anticlimatic garbage which was no real evidence of who the better fighter was even worse unifying 154 titles though never fighting the fight at 154 fighting at 152, dudes not really a unified 154 and noone can say he is with a strait face or say he is the best at 154. my money would be on lara to beat him after watching maidana and already knowing the style would be tough for mayweather.

mayweather has never been the best at anything but dodging all the best available fights. he never even faced pac or bradley and people wanna say he is the best welter????!!! BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH!!! GARBAGE SON!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:13 am 


Boxtradamus

Its impressive that both Fighters went for the knockout in Fight number 4 as they both announced their intentions BEFORE the Fight and Marquez was the one who got it. It was also impressive that Marquez knocked Pacquiao down SO hard that it gave BEARS amnesia as he forgot about it and thought that the knockout was the only time Marquez knocked Pacquiao down….Nope. Marquez knocked Pacquiao down TWICE in 6 rounds last time and the 2nd time is the knockout of all knockouts. It was the shot heard round the World!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 1:10 am 


enough already

Bring on Manny two juiced up fools slugging it out thats what boxing all about…

Posted May 18, 2014 1:08 am 


strategy

Boxtra, it was a very close fight indeed but from my on perspective and Upon seeing the fight myself again, I would even dare say Maidana won rounds 1,2,3,4,5,6,11,12. Mayweather was supposed to beat easy the walking punching back, one dimensional Maidana but Floyd cherrypicked the worng dude.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:07 am 


Rudy the Ram

The thing about Marquez is that he gets up when he gets knocked down. That Marquez ko wasn’t Manny’s first

Posted May 18, 2014 1:07 am 


SuckerPunch

Fraud may- He makes spanish speaking fighters sound like idiots. Like when Kellerman asked Marquez about a 5th Pacquiao fight. Marquez said (i don’t remember everything) “that 4th fight was divine justice. I had beaten him 3 times before and was robbed, so the 4th fight was a gift to all my fellow Mexicans and those who have supported me throughout the years. As far as a 5th fight goes I am going to take some time off and then we’ll see”. The interpreter said something so nonsensical and opposite that it made JMM sound stupid, incapable of translating thoughts to words and scare. Max Kellerman had to ask for clarification and when the interpreter had the audacity to ask JMM to explain himself Marquez looked at him like he was an idiot (rightfully so). It truly makes me wonder about the quality of interpretation that we are getting from other languages other than spanish. I know. I am a certified as a spanish -english interpreter.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:06 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. Maidana made YOU look like an AMATEUR. Because every EXPERT had Floyd WINNING no questions.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:05 am 


BEARS

jmm gets dumped routinely by pac, in fact that is probably the single motiff in all their fights. pacman dumping jmm on his a$$. He pretty much specializes in it. If jmm is p4p that would mean pacman specializes in knocking p4p fighters on their a$$.

thats just a little dumba$$ boxtradamus logic for ya. sad fact is once you define a premise and parameters, your a$$ has to live with in those parameters son.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:03 am 


strategy

Boxtradamous, Maidana, a non pound for pound boxer made floyd look like an amateur.

Posted May 18, 2014 1:01 am 


BEARS

its not really impressive that jmm finally got a knock down in four fights. it happened to be a ko. as pac was aggresive and wooping his a$$ and already dumped jmm on his a$$ and now alvarado has too. but dang, pac dumped jmm like 3 times in one round before and i think it was the first, that fight pretty much should have been stopped right then and there. That rule only apply SOME of the time

Posted May 18, 2014 1:00 am 


strategy

mookie, pacquiao’s punching power has diminished. Should it be the same for Marquez and should it even more so since Marquez is 40 yrs old but yet Marquez just hit Alvarado with a punch that look like a baseball bat was used. Marquez punch has become very dangerous and lethal even in higher weights. May be just like wine, the more they age the better they taste. That may be true for Marquez. Pacquiao would be at a disadvantage to fight a Marquez today with a very dangerous and lethal punch unlike in their previous 3 fights.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:58 am 


Hecdog

The great Manny Pacquiao has put fear in both Floyd Mayweather and JUan Manuel “Ped Man” Marquez. Both are simply afraid to take on the monster that awaits them, and boxing fans all over the world know this. Mayweather fears for his life and Ped Man Marquez is afraid that Hereida will be closely watched and he won’t be able to make that special nutritional mix that helps him out. A true fighter, a real fighter runs from no one. A true fighting champion welcomes all the toughest challengers in his time and era. Floyd Mayweather proved tiem and time again that he carefully selects his opposition even though he is talented. Ped Man Marquez basically is a whining crybaby that wants to live off a very questionable and tarnished win over Manny Pacquiao. Ask yourself, why is Marquez not wanting to fight Manny Pacquiao again even after beating him. Marquez will make more money then he has ever made. He can win a 5th title. He can beat him again. And even after all of this, Marquez and Nacho both say no. And there it is boxing fans, Manny Pacquiao even at age 35 still brings fear to the hearts of boxers like Mayweather and Marquez. Manny fears no one and he has proven that time and time again. This is one reason the majority of boxing fans see him as the greatest fighter ever. And I agree. Manny is the best.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:58 am 


Lol

so bradley is not a p4p fighter?

Posted May 18, 2014 12:57 am 


Boxtradamus

Sorry but Marquez knocked out a Top 10 P4P Fighter while Pacquiao was beating UP on Big #0 P4P Fighters. Knocking out the Top 10 P4P Fighter is more impressive.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:55 am 


strategy

If pac and Marquez fight next, they better do a blood test just to be on the safe side for both fighters.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:53 am 


mookie blaylock

Sorry but Marquez knocked out a man his size in pacquaio, as to where pacquaio was putting beatings on bigger men

Posted May 18, 2014 12:52 am 


Boxtradamus

CORRECTION….knocked his AZZ across the Ring and outside the ropes WOWSERS!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:51 am 


Boxtradamus

Pacquiao can’t SEE punches TOO well either. Thats why Bradley hit him with straight shots to the FACE. Even had Pacquiao hurt but feathers cannot finish the job. IF Pacquiao Fights aggressive unlike Alvarado he’ll get knocked out once again. Smart move by Alvarado to stay outside most of the time because coming into the Lion’s den would have gotten him eaten UP. Marquez knocked his across the Ring and outside the ropes WOW!!!! Thats why being Top 10 P4P is GREATER than being #0 P4P.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:49 am 


CORRECTAMUNDO

CORRECT once again!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:49 am 


strategy

why…. I did not say that but you are free to draw ur own conclusion.

but consider this….. Pacquiao going in higher weight made his KO power diminished however, can we say the same thing with Marquez?

Posted May 18, 2014 12:48 am 


Fraud May

Suckerpunch- thank you. It’s about time someone said it. That interpreter is horrendous at his job.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:47 am 


BEARS

provodnikov could have beat that jmm if u ask me

Posted May 18, 2014 12:46 am 


BEARS

jmm dropped a stationary alvarado who was standing under a shell and did not see the shot. i think its farfetched to draw a parrallel to this and a future fight with pac. the big talk is jmm got DUMPED by alvarado. a known B level fighter at best. and alvarado landed many shots

Posted May 18, 2014 12:46 am 


Demonyo

Alvarado is gone a long time ago. Marquez chose him to get to the win column.

Whine Manuel Marpedz avoided Provodnikov like a plague who is certain to give him retirement in hell.

Garbage fight. Thanks to Heredia’s juice he bacame spotted incredible hulk

Posted May 18, 2014 12:45 am 


strategy

if you’re tough but u don’t have the skills to beat ur opponent then where does that lead u? Alvarado certainly didn’t look like he had the skills nor the will power to beat marquez. He was tough but the rest of the essential tools was missing in him tonight.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:45 am 


Boxtradamus

Marquez WON just as I predicted!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:45 am 


why

Ok. Strategy. We get it. Juan is on roids. STFU!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:44 am 


BEARS

jmm is watchingthe body mass of his opponents. he is not seeing there hands very well. alvarado dumped him SOLID. whilst, pac rios and smoked bradley. QUITE CLEAR WHATS UP HERE SON!

like i said jmm just is not seeing punches very good if u ask me.

given what i have seen of these guys i take pac in a rematch with jmm. pac has always been better. i like them both but its true.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:42 am 


strategy

That first knockdown of pacquiao in the hands of Marquez in their last fight was very surprisingly unusual considering Pac was never got knockdown in all their previous battles.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:41 am 


Hecdog

Alvarado looked old, slow, one dimensional, human punching bag and tough as always. This is the truth. Toughness wins you nothing in boxing. Alvarado is as tough as they come, and I wish him the best and hope he makes a lot of money because he is a true fighter just not elite. He could never beat the top guys and never will. Similar to Gatti. Both tough great people, but not nearly the best. I meant no disrespect to Mike Alvarado. He’s a wonderful person and good boxer.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:40 am 


Truth Hurts

LOL at the all the Mexican traitors from So Cal who were rooting for Marquez over their fellow Mexican American…..

Pac will beat the F out of the old roid boy Marquez in a 5th fight. 100% guaranteed!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:38 am 


SuckerPunch

Great fight and a great win. On an unrated note. I think that every spanisb speaker will agree that the HBO spanish interpreter is beyond horrendous and has been horrendous for years. He doesn’t do any justice whatsoever to the charismatic and eloquent comments of the spanish speaking fighters. How be has kept his job for so long is beyond me. It makes me wonder who he knows, who be is related to or who he is blowing.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:38 am 


strategy

Pacquiao should be concern with Marquez’s strong Punching powers. Marquez looks very dangerous with those punches. Pacquiao’s punching powers in higher divisions has also diminished. All of this is adding up in Pacquiao’s disadvantage.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:37 am 


Fraud May

KC- drinks Marquez pee pee straight from the pipe

Posted May 18, 2014 12:37 am 


SREDMOND

Marquez has Pacs number that’s why he knocked him cold and made him a gun shy fighter, Marquez is an old man but Manny NEVER came close to taking his soul..

Posted May 18, 2014 12:36 am 


Hecdog

Did I hear a chicken talking when asked if he would fight Manny Pacquiao for a 5th fight? Sure seems a bit hesitant. Sure seems a bit scared. Sure seems like a coward because he knows what awaits him if he dare fight the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Trust me on this, Ped Man Marquez wants NO part of Manny Pacquiao, and he all but said it tonight. Manny Pacquiao is the best. Ped Man Marquez shows his true cowardly character by again staying away, and not wanting anything to do with Manny Pacquiao.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:36 am 


ag

Hecdog your an idiot, calling Alvarado old.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:35 am 


SREDMOND

Alvarado looks like he got hit by a baseball bat to be honest… That contusion looks CRAZY..

Posted May 18, 2014 12:35 am 


The Prince

Marquez counters are too good. Pacquiao will get KO’d again.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:34 am 


why

Bears you are a moron. You can’t compare the two fights. Rios didn’t throw a damn punch back. He was there just to showcase pac

Posted May 18, 2014 12:33 am 


Rudy the Ram

Helluva fight, I think the Provo fight and the two he had against Rios took a lot out of Alvarado, had he started earlier it may have been a different story.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:33 am 


News Flash

Marquez may have a ko punch, but Manny has his number.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:32 am 


SREDMOND

Bears and Hecdog, maybe Marquez knocked you guys out when he laid waste to Pacquaio, FACT is that Marquez defeated Manny in the ultimate fashion and that’s never gonna change..

Posted May 18, 2014 12:32 am 


strategy

When pacquiao went up in weight, his KO power diminished but when Marquez went up in weight his KO power increases. His punches are very dangerous now. Pacquiao better watch out, Marqeuz actually knock down Pacquiao in the early rounds leading to the final knock down in their last fight. Marquez is certainly very dangerous with his new found KO pwoer in higher division at his age.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:31 am 


SREDMOND

Alvarado is done at this point multiple stoppages and taking big fire from Marquez, he’s gonna become an opponent.. Nice shots by Marquez attacking a guy coming off a BAD stoppage loss..

Posted May 18, 2014 12:30 am 


Hecdog

Please bring on Ped Man Marquez. He fought an old battered afraid to throw Alvarado and was put on his rear end once and on the way to the canvas again but held himself together. Ped Man sure looked good didn’t he. Please bring him to the legendary Manny Pacquiao, and I guarantee you, he takes a beating. Hereida better start working on a better nutritional mix because Ped Man looks like an old man beating up on a stationary. predictable, slow ass molasses Alvarado. Manny Pacquiao will destroy this old man. Bring him on now.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:30 am 


News Flash

Manny will beat Marquez, and then he will go on to give Floyd a TKO Loss.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:29 am 


BEARS

jmm takes his licks and gets dropped. softens up. give and take as i said to those calling it to be a clinic by jmm.

comparing jmm vs alvarado and pac vs rios, jmm is looking worse and more vulnerable.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:28 am 


strategy

I’m thinking Maidana can beat Marquez. I’m sure of that

Posted May 18, 2014 12:26 am 


The Prince

Marquez wins. Good action fight and the haters can only hope that Pacquiao gets him again.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:25 am 


strategy

Even at his age, Marquez has become even more dangerous with his new found punching power that can KO even the biggest of guys in the higher divisions.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:24 am 


News Flash

Bad advice in the Mile high corner.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:23 am 


News Flash

Mile high needs a miracle to win.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:22 am 


BEARS

alvarado almost drops again!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:22 am 


The Prince

Marquez almost went down again, but weathered the storm. One more round, can Avarado score the KO upset? If I was him, I’d go for broke.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:21 am 


News Flash

Marquez is back in command

Posted May 18, 2014 12:21 am 


Rudy the Ram

Marquez seems to have been going for the ko

Posted May 18, 2014 12:20 am 


K.C.

Come on Marquez! Drink more of your own urine!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:19 am 


Fraud May

Nice posts guys. Thanks

Posted May 18, 2014 12:18 am 


The Prince

Marquez needs to fight smarter. Avarado sees something and is waiting for Marquez to get too wild.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:17 am 


BEARS

jmm got dropped!!! i knew it!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:15 am 


Fight Aficionado

Smashing counter right. In his highest weight division with a new ripped physique at 40 Marquez is suddenly the Incredible Hulk thanks to Angel Heredia’s PED concoctions.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:14 am 


strategy

That’s what I’m talking about for Alvarado. He should have done that earlier…. time is of the essence now. Better do more.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:13 am 


The Prince

FOTY?! Possibly. But Avarado is killing himself to get this win.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:13 am 


strategy

I told you Alvarado has the chance to beat Marquez but he is not doing enough previously

Posted May 18, 2014 12:11 am 


murderman

Provo prob damaged alvarado permantly. Jmm may just retire him tonight for good! Looks like pac vs jmm part 5 will prob go down again soon!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:11 am 


The Prince

But like I said, Marquez is ready to get caught.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:10 am 


BEARS

alvarado just got lit up like a christmas tree!!!!! DAAAAAMN!!!!

Posted May 18, 2014 12:09 am 


strategy

What? at his age he is knocking guys down in higher division? hmmmm

Posted May 18, 2014 12:09 am 


The Prince

A boxer can only take so many clean counter-punches before they fall to them.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:09 am 


strategy

It looks like Alvarado has a chance to beat Marquez but he too slow, react slow, his punches are anemic, does not use his size to advantage, etc. and most importantly, he doesn’t seem to have the will to fight a tough war, the russian did something to him.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:07 am 


The Voice of Boxing

When Alvarado gets in close he is not even punching. The body is open but he is doing nothing. Maybe the punches are hurting him. But if they are why not punch back?

Posted May 18, 2014 12:05 am 


strategy

Alvarado is too slow to react.

Posted May 18, 2014 12:03 am 


Rudy the Ram

Round 6 was closer, but Marquez is just out classing him

Posted May 18, 2014 12:02 am 


strategy

I thnk Maidana would do a better job against Marquez. Alvarado is a lost cause. I am giving up on him.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:59 pm 


Graeme

Alvarado seems to be terrified to open up. He pivots to left in a good posistion on the inside but doesn’t deliver the hook. just not pulling the trigger.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:59 pm 


strategy

i’m beginning to lose faith in alvarado. I think that russian damaged his will to fight. he’s too puzzyy to do more.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:58 pm 


The Prince

Avarado needs to make it a street fight. Marquez is a brilliant counter-puncher, but he isn’t mobile like Mayweather. Avarado can cut off the ring and make it ugly.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:57 pm 


strategy

Alvarado is a big guy He needs to take advantage of that. They not smart at all. Stay buzy also. DOn’t just wait for a freebies go and take it

Posted May 17, 2014 11:51 pm 


strategy

Alvarado is fighting the wrong kind of startegy. They need to to more and suffocate marquez and crowd him.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:49 pm 


Tomato Can

JMM is 40 years old, of corse he doesn’t see punches, the best. lol

Posted May 17, 2014 11:49 pm 


The Prince

Marquez is doing well, but he’s clearly aged and can get caught.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:47 pm 


Rudy the Ram

Even round 2, Alvarado should engage more, follow up on the jab. don’t get careless and engage too much

Posted May 17, 2014 11:46 pm 


BEARS

jmm does not seem to see punches the best.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:45 pm 


Fraud May

KC= obvious pactard troll.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:42 pm 


Glyndwr

done deal!

Posted May 17, 2014 11:42 pm 


Graeme

Alvarados has a 2inch Height advantage and 5inch reach advantage and came in heavier on the scales so he’s the bigger man in there and has consistently fought at a higher weight than Marquez and can punch with relative power and isnt totally inept of skill so i think this might actually be a fight.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:41 pm 


K.C.

Marquez has Benjamin Button syndrome. He’s going thru puberty with the acne stage…. Of course Marquez is pumping some sort of synthetic peds….

Posted May 17, 2014 11:40 pm 


The Prince

Good size up round. This fight could go either way.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:40 pm 


JE

Marquez definitely been on something spotty chest and back!!

Posted May 17, 2014 11:37 pm 


mookie blaylock

All the pactards watching tonite

Posted May 17, 2014 11:31 pm 


Rudy the Ram

Should be a good fight, give the edge to Marquez solely on experience

Posted May 17, 2014 11:28 pm 


K.C.

Marquez is drinking urine. He’s video taped sipping glass fulls of his own pee pee. He’s also pumping peds… Drink up Marquez…… Yeah yeah!!!!!

Posted May 17, 2014 11:28 pm 


Tomato Can

That was an impressive ankle breaker knockout win for postol.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:16 pm 


BEARS

nasty ko for postal!!!! got a tall 140 pounder hitting the seen son!!! wild card gym pays off

Posted May 17, 2014 11:15 pm 


The Prince

Good win by Postal. He needs to work on his chin and body tolerance, because a good fighter whom can bang will knock him out.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:14 pm 


Tomato Can

The size difference between Alvarado and JMM is almost as big as the obvious skill advantage for JMM. Throw the fact that JMM is 40 years old and the fight gets a little more even. But really of JMM can still pull the trigger, Alvarado is going to get countered hard and often tonight.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:10 pm 


Fraud May

Marquez by TKO. Alvarado has ” baby bull” Diaz written all over him. Marquez will use that same game plan again.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:09 pm 


Boxer

C’mon bob arum rios loses to Alvarado and he lands pacquiao, Alvarado loses to Ruslan and lands Marquez??? That’s what you call cashing out

Posted May 17, 2014 11:07 pm 


BEARS

jmm vs provodnikov would have been IDEAL but noone wants to provodnikov they are scared

Posted May 17, 2014 11:03 pm 


BEARS

they may be setting up pac alvarado bout. freddy is in the corner of postol so it seems like a clear set up for pac for something. provod fought alvarado. maybe if alvarado impresses it will be him. who knows maybe jmm will smoke him. if the alvarado that fought prov shows up though i think he can take jmm. maybe even hurt him or ko him. jmms 41

Posted May 17, 2014 11:01 pm 


Fraud May

I think Provodnikov vs Pacquioa would have been more intresting.

Posted May 17, 2014 11:00 pm 


Fraud May

Marquez will win… Marquez vs Pacquioa 5 after and Pacquioa wins by UD…it’s so transparent.

Posted May 17, 2014 10:58 pm 


HHLondon

They’re setting up JMM/PAC whatever.

Alvarado don’t do nothing but get hit.

Another Arum heist!

Posted May 17, 2014 10:53 pm 


BEARS

i could be way wrong but i think alvarado is come out of this fight in better shape. its toughto forecast because alvarados resistance could be damaged by the orovodnikov fight. providnikov just batters peoples brain matter. i think he even got to pac in sparring. if alvarado can be like he was against provod he wins tonight. keep throwing the power shots like he did against prov. just keep his power work rate up. if alvarado starts landing with any sort of frequency i think jmm could drop or fold

Posted May 17, 2014 10:37 pm 



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