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Rustybucket

The first Froch/Kessler fight was close, but Kessler won it, home advantage just lifted him up, and yes, he won it by beating Froch at his own game.
Come on, let’s give tbe man credit when due.

Posted May 25, 2014 7:34 pm 


Me

Froch vs. Kessler was a classic draw, picking a winner was wrong.

Posted May 25, 2014 5:54 pm 


Me

Don’t “ridicule” or blabber around, concentrate on the fight. This is a boxing match, he who hits his opponent more often or harder wins. Not who has the funniest line, or manages to best ridicule his opponent. That can backfire if you can’t back it up, and it gets you off concentration.

Posted May 25, 2014 5:53 pm 


FLUSHER

Anonymous is like a floating turd that wont sink

Posted May 25, 2014 9:20 am 


Decision

Yes, the stats said Kessler in Kessler vs Froch 1. Everybody but a few people who saw Froch winning over Ward said Kessler won in Denmark

I think most people believe that Groves must conserve energy, and concentrate on the last part of the rounds, like Kessler did, in Denmark against Froch.

Kessler did a three punch combination against Hausler, in Germany, some years ago, the first two confusing Hausler the third, right on the money, this was what happened, when Froch went down in Groves vs Froch 1.

I am a Groves fan now, but we all know that Froch is dangerous, all through a fight, looking at his fights up until now.

Posted May 25, 2014 5:05 am 


boxing barlow

TARK – Am a Brit. Have watched and cheered on Froch since winning the British title. Cheered him on when he beat Kessler in the rematch. If anything I should be biased. But Kessler clearly won the first fight with Froch. He not only won the fight but was the first fighter to really stand in front of Froch and trade shots with him and back him up! Kudos to Kessler in the first fight, Tark is is you who needs their eyes testing as he clearly won the fight, just as Froch clearly won the second.

Posted May 25, 2014 3:57 am 


boxing barlow

A boxing scribe recent wrote about this fight ‘Chris Walker: My prediction for the first Froch/Groves fight was the Londoner by unanimous decision so thank you Howard Foster for denting my reputation as a boxing prophet. For the rematch, my opinion is still the same as last time. George Groves to win wide.

The Ginger man slowed down dramatically before the awful stoppage but that was more down to his own stamina rather than Froch hurting him. Groves was sensational throughout but he put so much into each round and that included several power shots which can zap energy rather quickly. I applaud Paddy Fitzpatrick for the work he done with George but I still feel that Groves could have benefitted from having Adam Booth’s calm presence in the corner following some hellacious rounds.

The biggest problem Groves has is keeping his discipline. Rounds easily won in the first fight should’ve been stored in the bank but rather then notch each session up, Groves was determined to go out and destroy Froch for the entire three minute duration. That doesn’t need to happen this time around. He can outbox Froch and he can also hurt him, he may have a few nervy moments of his own if he decides to stand in front of Carl and have a row but I feel he’s learnt enough from the first fight to be given the verdict at the end of twelve interesting rounds’. I dont think I could have summed up my own view any better than this. This is Groves’ fight to loose in my opinion and Froch’s only chance is that George comes in with the wrong game plan.

Posted May 25, 2014 3:53 am 


TARK

Decision…, You’re blind as a bat.. Kessler never beat Froch in Denmark.. He was out punched and beaten by a solid margin.. They just had neutral judges in England. Not people who would give Kessler every round he came within 5 punches of winning..

The commentators had Froch winning both fights.. Bernstein and Farhood.. And before the rematch Jim Lampley when over the punch stat numbers from the first fight with graphics — on the air… If you listened to the telecast you saw Lampley showing the viewers how Froch out-punched Kessler by a significant margin in the first fight.

Posted May 24, 2014 10:49 pm 


FLUSHER

i think that piece of shat Anonymous has took the wrong turn and missed the s bend.

Posted May 24, 2014 6:07 pm 


crispy bacons best

go f~k yor moma decision,infact go f~k Anonymous

Posted May 24, 2014 6:03 pm 


Decision

Everybody knew clearly that Groves has real boxing skills, his power surprised many, though.

Obviously I don’t think that Groves can beat Ward, but Ward, much like Dirrell has one problem after the other, preventing him from fighting.

Ward and Dirrell are probably the two best Smws, but Kessler and Froch were the two most entertaining Smws, for years.

Ward and Dirrell were also protected fighters, this is why they will never be recognized in Europe.

Posted May 24, 2014 5:46 pm 


LOL

Anonymous your a shathouse also,lol

Posted May 24, 2014 1:45 pm 


LOL

YOUR ALWAYS SHATTING YOUR SELF BOXING KEN BARLOW

Posted May 24, 2014 1:43 pm 


TARK

That’s a joke… Boxing skills??? Groves doesn’t HAVE any. How many times did Carl hit Groves with flush in the face???

Forget that Carl got hit as well… Froch can’t box either… But he’s a lot tougher and stronger man than Wimpy Poo Georgie. They both get hit so somebody is going out!!! Most likely Groves.

Posted May 24, 2014 1:31 pm 


boxing Barlow

Anonymous – We’ll see on fight night wont we. Not very often I back up my predictions with hard cash but at 4/6 I couldnt resist! Actually think groves will win on points. i’ve got an incline he will win it easily coasting to a point victory using pure boxing skills. But as I’m too much of a coward to risk a bet just on points Ive just had Groves to win any method. By the way I have been a Froch fan for years and bet on him in the last fight to win via KO. Whilst I got the win, probably much like Froch, I was pooing myself right up until the dodgy KO, LOL.

Posted May 24, 2014 9:55 am 


Listen up BOY

@anonymous,you talk to for a BOY still in school shorts BOY

Posted May 24, 2014 8:27 am 


Decision

To me, Kessler beat Froch fair and square, in Kessler vs Froch 1, Froch beat Dirrell fair and square, you can’t win when fighting on the backfoot, if the fight is close.

You’ve got to respect Kessler, being the first fighter to bully Froch, but that was then.

Groves is less experienced compared to Kessler, but he was much faster, moved better, better head movement. For a Kessler fan, it was really exposed what he need, in skills, when you saw the young Groves.

It was exposed by Ward of course. Kessler has a bigger chin and is probably stronger than Groves, right now, but Ward showed everybody that speed and movement is it, in boxing.

And fighting from home, with own referee, and judges of course.

Posted May 24, 2014 7:09 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Contraversy & Carl Froch go hand in glove when it comes to decisions. I still think he may have just done enough to get the nod in the 1st Kessler fight & naturally the jury’s still out regarding Groves I & Dirrell, but then that’s boxing for ya!

Posted May 24, 2014 5:42 am 


Anonymous

Listen up BOY

@anonymous,youve never seen 2hundred quid,road sweepers never see no more than the 20pound a week you earn

The above comment is from an ignorant tool on so many facts. Name me a profession that earns you only £20 a week, you illiterate imbecile? Roadsweepers and dustmen are actually paid alot more than you think. The job is total garbage, but the pay if you can tolerate the smell is more than a lot of other professions. Do your research you G.L.B. twerp and yes, a fool and his money is soon parted.

Froch will smash the snot out of Groves come Saturday night.

Posted May 24, 2014 4:56 am 


Decision

Youve got to admire Frochs chin, just saw Groves vs Froch 1 on television again last night.

It is also worth mentioning that a lot of the punches, these boxers unload, are caught in the gloves, because the top fighters are excellent at this.

When you watch the first fight, with slow motion recordings, you see that Froch wasn’t able to land anything important, except on the inside (dirty tricks)

Groves landed the significant punches of the night. I am just thinking that boxing is the sweet science of hitting and not getting hit yourself.

Should Froch win this one, it would be due to Groves self-sabotage. Jab from the outside, move, and hit Froch hard, when he comes forward, chin first, and there you go.

Posted May 24, 2014 4:36 am 


teleprompter

Groves down in eight.

Posted May 24, 2014 2:11 am 


TARK

Kessler had a boat load of experience and has never been stopped except on headbutts.. He lost a TD to Ward, he wasn’t stopped.. I was a little surprised that Froch couldn’t stop him but Kessler has chin like an anvil… Groves gets hurt.

Posted May 23, 2014 6:55 pm 


TARK

Froch is not a big hitter.. That’s OK.. He was on his way to knocking Groves out when the referee messed up with an unwarranted stoppage.

Froch started getting to Groves as early as the 5th.. He was coming on like gangbusters with all engines steaming in the 9th. Groves was never going to make it to the 12th round.

Posted May 23, 2014 6:18 pm 


Rustybucket

Can’t see the reasoning behind Froch not being able to KO Kessler as a sign he has no punch.

Posted May 23, 2014 5:11 pm 


Listen up BOY

@anonymous,youve never seen 2hundred quid,road sweepers never see no more than the 20pound a week you earn

Posted May 23, 2014 3:00 pm 


Rich

They keep mentioning the fouls Froch made,but look again Groves was no stranger to the foul,especially with the head….Groves doesn’t have the experience to keep it all together and will get drawn into a fight..also he is excitable and will use up his nervous energy fast….Froch same time same place…….

Posted May 23, 2014 12:49 pm 


flydog

I was strongly in favour of Froch in the first fight but I have to say I’m starting to think Groves in the return. Looking back I think there were signs of age in the re-match with Kessler and then Froch looked proper old and slow last time out with young George. Now, that could have been because he was badly hurt in the first round and it took him a few rounds to get his brain and his boxing back together but either way he really struggled at times despite weathering the storm and gringing out the win. I just don’t know how much Carl has got left but I’m sure Groves has plenty and I’m starting to think that might be a deciding factor. Can’t wait for it!!…

Posted May 23, 2014 10:39 am 


Decision

Froch couldn’t Ko an over the hill Kessler, in their two fights, and Groves took the few punches Froch landed rather well, in Groves vs Froch 1.

We have seen a man without punch, Ward, dominate the Smw division via speed and movement.

Movement becomes the important factor, if Groves is going to win this one.

Everything can clearly happen, but I believe in a Groves 12 round decision win … and a third money fight lol.

Posted May 23, 2014 9:27 am 


Boxing Barlow

P.S Groves will win on points (I’ve got £200 on it!).

Posted May 23, 2014 8:55 am 


K2 Fan

I just can’t help it ; Every time I look at Froch , I see : ” Igor ” from ” young Frankenstein ” !

Posted May 23, 2014 7:43 am 


piechucker

very well said barlow

Posted May 23, 2014 7:13 am 


Boxing Barlow

The writer states ‘ if Groves really wants a clean fight, all he has to do is box from distance and Froch will have it all to do.’. Easier said than done. Make no bones about it if Froch is down on points in the second half of the fight after round 8 he will he barging into Groves leading with his head to try and get into range and hope to land. No amount of footwork will stop this. Groves is gonna be in a war for the final 4 rounds. IMO its all about can he win the first 8 and leave enough in the tank to wrestle and tie up Carl for the final 4 without being over powered drained and open to Froch’s bombs.

Posted May 23, 2014 6:47 am 


Anonymous

After Froch bangs Groves out at Wembley, Groves will be the support to David Price on Sauerland afternoon shows in Germany beating up 3rd tier chumps that look just like him.

Posted May 23, 2014 4:45 am 


rigs

Froch Ko groves in 11th or 12th froch way behind on score cards knows he needs a Ko good fight but neither of then is nowhere close to ward skill

Posted May 23, 2014 1:55 am 


PEEJ

Froch is gonna KO Groves.

Posted May 23, 2014 1:45 am 


Mike

Groves’ fast footwork, hand speed and good accurate punch power will prove too much for Froch this time. In front of 80,000 fans, the vast majority will be Londoners cheering for their hometown boy, Groves. That alone will give Groves a massive boost. All the advantages are with Groves this time, he’ll go for the fast knockout and I think he’ll do it.

Groves will win by early KO.

Posted May 22, 2014 10:27 pm 


dirk

froch by legit stoppage

Posted May 22, 2014 10:21 pm 


Boxtradamus

OFFICIAL Prediction: Froch by MANCHESTER MAULING stoppage! I the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!!

Posted May 22, 2014 9:46 pm 


lman

Not taking anything away from Groves, if he can fight that kind of fight for 12 hard rounds then he can win for sure, but even defensive technicians like Ward start breathing hard in the those last couple of rounds against Froch.

Posted May 22, 2014 9:41 pm 


lman

Groves style means he burns a lot of nervous energy, when you combine that with Froch’s relentless and tireless stalking its a recipe for disaster. Froch was on his way to a stoppage in the first fight, it was playing out exactly like Froch vs Taylor except Taylor didn’t start to fade until the championship rounds even after making the conscious effort to pace himself after learning the hard way from Pavlik.

Posted May 22, 2014 9:38 pm 


TKO 9

It was a 12 round fight, not a 7 round fight, Froch won, took Groves shots, wore him out and stopped him.

Posted May 22, 2014 9:17 pm 


TKO 9

Froch win was a legitimate win, Groves was about to be stopped and knocked out badly, Groves should think himself lucky he got a rematch v Froch, he should thank the ref.

Posted May 22, 2014 9:05 pm 


Rustybucket

You are the author of the article, and I claim my 5 quid.

Posted May 22, 2014 8:26 pm 


Roy Spivey

I just watched tonight’s Ringside and I hope you’re correct Fizz. The thing is, Groves and Booth sound so convincing whereas there is just something in Froch’s eyes, a watery glint, that tells me he’s trying to convince himself. The more Froch says ‘I’ve beat him once and I’ll beat him again, and stuff along those lines, it’s hard to believe the rest of what he says. After all, we know that win was not the legitimate win he is claiming it to be. Hopefully, as a Froch fan, ‘everything for a reason’ turns out to have been a ploy all along, to make Carl think, to put him on the back foot, to protect Groves from the physical beast that we all know Carl is when he unleashes it.
It’s hard to believe that Carl went in there with some sort of complacency, got caught cold, and then couldn’t collect himself. It seemed more that Groves had gotten to him in the build up and the moderate improvements Carl appears to have made don’t dissuade me from the view that this fight has been one outside the ring. I hope I’m wrong, but have you seen the mad look in Groves’s eyes when he concentrates? Seriously, that kid has no soul or he’s a great actor. Some people just shrink when they’ve been around that. Did I mention I hope I’m wrong?

Posted May 22, 2014 8:22 pm 


Rustybucket

Good Grief.

This article is without doubt the most ridiculous I’ve read here.

Certainly does not warrent any comments on the actual fight.

Posted May 22, 2014 8:11 pm 


Freddie Roach Ate My Hamster

As much as the pre-fight mind games worked last time, people conveniently forget that it was GG who mentally unravelled last time around. He wound up Froch so much that he was swinging like a drunk in round 1 and was nearly knocked out. It took a few rounds for Froch to recover (physically and psychologically) and get into his own rhythm. Froch was in survival mode and was there for the taking – all that GG had to do was swarm him or stay at range and get a wide UD. It was literally George’s fight to lose. The trouble was, for all his bravado GG isn’t as mentally strong as the ‘bully boy’ persona he uses pre-fight. He threw the kitchen sink at Froch, then started to fade mentally when Froch sensed that he was off the hook and came back stronger. You could see Froch gaining confidence and George losing it over the last couple of rounds. It is disheartening to see someone take your best shots, bite their gum shield and come back for more. Although the fight was clearly stopped early, George’s punches had lost their fizz, he looked mentally drained and he burst into tears after the stoppage. If he uses his speed and stays out of range, GG could win this rematch. If Froch keeps the pressure on it will be interesting to see if George’s mentally stronger this time or if he’s still trying hard to convinced himself.

Posted May 22, 2014 7:38 pm 


Prof Konje

What is this guy talking about? I can’t follow what he’s saying.

Posted May 22, 2014 5:49 pm 


Harry

Terrible, terrible piece of BS writing by this “author”. I stopped reading after just a few paragraphs. For f’s sake ESB! Can you not get someone to do basic quality control? You should be embarrassed that such rubbish gets published on your site.

Posted May 22, 2014 5:43 pm 


RAYGORDON REID

groves

Posted May 22, 2014 5:38 pm 


gary

all this BS before the fight. cant wait for it though. Dirrell beat Froch IMHO this should be the blueprint for Groves. Box him, Ward boxed him and won too. Groves to win by UD. just stop this crap before the fight, its not required. the fight is sold, get on with it.

Posted May 22, 2014 5:23 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Cobra by deadly snake bite on Groves late in the 10th…..Game Over

Posted May 22, 2014 4:38 pm 


eric

Froch may not be the best boxer but he makes up for his deficit in many diffrent ways.

Posted May 22, 2014 4:08 pm 


Anonymous

Groves wins before round 6

Posted May 22, 2014 3:27 pm 


detroitko

terrible stoppage – froch is waaaay overrated! and he did NOT beat andre dirrell!!!

Posted May 22, 2014 3:18 pm 


eric

Thanks HBO

Posted May 22, 2014 3:11 pm 


eric

Can’t hardly wait for this fight, I hope it lives up to the hype, froch rarely disappoints and groves can box +they hate each other, should be entertaining.

Hope groves is wrong about round 3, want to see them beat the crap out of each other for at least 7 entertaining rounds.

3 rounds? I ll barley have finished my first slice of pizza.

Posted May 22, 2014 3:10 pm 


Kareem Abdul-Jabaar

Is the author of this rubbish the brother of the fool who runs the coalition government who is about to take a kicking in the opinion polls tonite.

Posted May 22, 2014 2:34 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

I believe Froch will win again.

Posted May 22, 2014 2:29 pm 


Albert Tatlock

Thanks for that great comment Alan, really good.

Posted May 22, 2014 2:19 pm 


Alan

What a load of crap!

Posted May 22, 2014 2:03 pm 



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