both are bums.Posted May 27, 2014 2:59 pm
“hopkins is the atg of this era, not mayweather or pac or ward. Hes been beaten, but never beaten up”
ward never came close to being beaten. hopkins was beaten 6 times. ward is a better boxer than hop ever was.
garcia, floyd, kovalev, golovkin, crawford, rigondeaux and others champs haven’t suffered a single loss. b-hop has 6 losses and won’t fight anybody who can fight. if he fights stevenson he’ll get trashed and knocked out.Posted May 26, 2014 9:57 pm
now name another fighter with triple gs attributes in the middleweight division.Posted May 26, 2014 7:25 pm
triple g is fundamentally sound, excellent footwork, great balance, hard chin, power in both hands, devastating body puncher, presents different looks, combinations with leverage behind them, handspeed….that is how triple g is being judged. and he is in a weak era, so that all goes farther. he has beaten a couple of top 10 fighters easily. up to this point, what is there not to like?Posted May 26, 2014 7:24 pm
Hopkins is the atg of this era, not mayweather or pac or ward. Hes been beaten, but never beaten up, and has not chery picked, mayweather has depended on careful match making, ward has benefited from a weak division and stays safe by refusing to move up, pac is talented, but not smart in the ring. (though after seeing may against madana i got to think he would have lost to pac of a few years back, and would have lost to oscar in his prime.) Compared to them, Hopkins career is far more remarkable. And dont kid yourself, stevenson and kolvalev are not that good.Posted May 26, 2014 7:18 pm
“HBO” offered … *Posted May 26, 2014 12:21 am
“He was a cherry-picked opponent… Stevenson should have fought Kovalev.”
Ask Kovalev to fight Stevenson for half the money see if his handlers will have some of that.
Stevenson was paid twice the money Showtime offered for Fonfara for one-fight contract.
Shhhh … go away.
If I said give me half your wages this week … what would be your honest answer?Posted May 26, 2014 12:21 am
@Hidalgo…, “Fonfara took one of the best light heavyweights in the world the distance and even put him on his butt.”
I was impressed with Fonfara’s fighting heart and his effort.
But I wasn’t impressed with his boxing skills.. his conditioning… his strength… his physique.. his punching power.. his speed.. his sharpness… or his cleverness and feinting skills… because he has NONE of that… He’s not a world class talent period — although he almost beat one.
He was a cherry-picked opponent… Stevenson should have fought Kovalev.
These less then optimal fights happen because you non-demanding fans accept any sh!t fight that’s thrown at you.Posted May 25, 2014 11:31 pm
Stevenson needed a wake up like this you’re right.Posted May 25, 2014 5:09 pm
turbo hamster on tequila
Redmond answer the question of how you scored campillo fights with cloud and shumenov.
Not an oblique rant on some other tangent.Posted May 25, 2014 4:44 pm
there is no getting away from it.All boxing fans won,t be unanamous in who is the best light heavy until they both fight and badly cruicfy BHop,or will the old mongoose,oh! excuse me I mean the slick quick old man known known as the upset man that has taken a few fighters by surprise be able to beat both lineal champs?i would have to say if he does,we all would have to call him the greatest boxer of all time.Posted May 25, 2014 4:16 pm
what wins has nar hop been getting by on?
funny how sredmond fails to to make a case for any light heavy to be better than kovalev. he vainly tries adonis then pivots to nard hop. cant make a case, then actually pivots to “kovalev does not have as great a career and never will”
get a grip on reality sredmond. where not living in nard hops glory days u phukn retard. its “what have u done for me lately” son. and that answer is nard hop sux. nard hops grtting by on bum fluff. dawson owns the guy.
kovalev can keep knocking people TFO, dude even passed away from fightin kovalev, kovalev can become one of the greatest light heavies for sure. and can prolly get better wins at the weight than nard hop has.Posted May 25, 2014 3:49 pm
Why is Hopkins even talked about he beat Murat and Shumo both C class fighters. He gets beat twice by Dawson. Hopkins should of been out of this. No one wants to see boring.Posted May 25, 2014 3:45 pm
whoa!!! K2 just lit sredmond the hell up!!!
nard hop = fake champ
adonis “quazzi motto” “fonfara struggle” stevenson
TRUE BEAST! BEAST MASTER!
nard hops a fake champ. REVOKE THE TITLES!!!! GIVE THEM TO KOVALEV!!! RIGHTFUL OWNER!!!!Posted May 25, 2014 3:41 pm
Cedric is a C level fighter AnonymousPosted May 25, 2014 3:13 pm
Sredmond , who the hell mentioned Dawson???? We were talking about Stevenson struggling over a limited fonfara that you seem to explain his difficulty against a limited fonfara but as I reminded you when you were all over ggg for beating macklin like its ggg’s fault he beat him easy and here for Stevenson it’s ok to struggle with fonfara ….!i know sometimes a boxer have a bad night but you are being hypocrite as usual attacking ggg off looking good but in case of Stevenson u are so mild eh? Why is that ?Posted May 25, 2014 3:08 pm
“One of the weakneses I noticed in Kovalevs last fight is that, he cant fight going backwards. Cedric exploited that flaw.”
Cedric got dominated in that fight and was stopped by a body punch and then he cried in his corner.Posted May 25, 2014 2:22 pm
On Saturday, February 18, Tavoris Cloud retained his IBF junior heavyweight championship and kept his perfect 24(19)-0 record intact when he earned a split-decision victory over Gabriel Campillo, who fell to 21(8)-4(1)-1.
The fight, broadcast live on Showtime from Corpus Christi, Texas, was an exciting, action-packed war.
The decision, however, was a travesty.
I don’t usually use the word “robbery” when writing about boxing decisions—even ones I disagree with. I thought Juan Manuel Marquez deserved the decision against Manny Pacquiao last November, but the rounds were close, and I can see the argument the other way.
Even in a case like the Nonito Donaire-Wilfredo Vazquez Jr. fight earlier this month, where I just can’t see how one judge possibly scored the fight for Vazquez, I still keep in mind that the judge was sitting ringside and watching the action at a certain angle.
But I don’t see any way possible that last night’s fight could have been scored for anybody but Gabriel Campillo. Denny Nelson, the lone voice of sanity on the judges’ panel, had the fight 115-111. That sounds just about right.
Dave Robertson had it 116-110. During the broadcast, the Showtime team emphasized that Robertson was an “inexperienced” judge.” They did not say whether or not he was blind.
Joel Elizando scored it a more modest, though still way out of line, 114-112, for Cloud.
Bleacher ReportPosted May 25, 2014 2:03 pm
THIS IS WHY PEOPLE THINK BOXING IS FIXED!
Ring TalkPosted May 25, 2014 2:02 pm
American Bank Center, Corpus Christi, Texas – Gabriel Campillo (21-4-1, 8KOs) survived two bad knockdowns in the first round and appeared to dominate the majority of the next eleven, but the two of the three official judges gave the decision to IBF light heavyweight champion Tavoris Cloud (24-0, 19KOs). The scores were 115-111 for Campillo, 114-112 and 116-110 for Cloud. The crowd and Showtime’s ringside announcers was livid with the scores.
Boxing ScenePosted May 25, 2014 2:01 pm
Gabriel Campillo was on the short end of the stick of some awful scoring again tonight in Texas, getting robbed despite delivering a reality check to IBF light heavyweight titlist Tavoris Cloud in Corpus Christi. Cloud won on split decision scores of 116-110, 114-112, and 111-115. Bad Left Hook scored it 116-110 for Campillo.
Campillo (21-4-1, 8 KO) is the recipient of a third straight lousy decision in a major fight (he had a couple of stay-busy wins in there, too), following his 2010 robbery loss to Beibut Shumenov and last year’s robbery draw against Karo Murat.
Bad Lefthook dot comPosted May 25, 2014 2:00 pm
Whoa! Calm the heck down dude! JEEZUS!! Go back and read what I said again. I just stated facts. Why get your panties in such a twist over nothing? You’re projecting a whole heap of paranoid nonsense at me for simply stating the truth.
Do you disagree that Cloud was robbed against Cloud, Shumenov, and Murat?
Did Hopkins win his belts of Cloud and Shumenov?
Did Kovalev beat Campillo legitimately?Posted May 25, 2014 1:55 pm
You’re completely missing the point here friend. Nothing I said was untrue. All I did was simply state facts. Contrary to what you tried to insinuate, I didn’t once say or imply that Kovalev has had a better career than Hopkins. I’m not quite sure how you could have arrived at such a conclusion.Posted May 25, 2014 1:50 pm
I totally disagree that you can strip Hopkins because of fights he did NOT judge despite your opinions.. Hops faced the guys with the Belts so he gets the glory such is boxing.. If Kovalev had the belts it would be the same, your stance betrays a LACK of confidence in Kovalev, if you felt he was the real McCoy you would be comfortable knowing he would win eventually in the ring… Hops had to wait till 36 and 39 to get some real money making opportunities (Trinidad and ODH) Kovalevs time will come if he keeps winning… NO need to try and get him a belt via politics… You tried to make Vitali Undisputed Champ via the same method and it NEVER worked… TRUTHPosted May 25, 2014 1:48 pm
Campillo was robbed against Cloud, Shumenov, and Murat, Hopkins won his belts off Cloud and Shumenov, Kovalev legitimately beat the real IBF and WBA champion Campillo, actually destroyed him in three rounds, therefore Kovalev is the real WBO, IBF and WBA champion and Hopkins is a paper champion. That’s just the truth of the situation.Posted May 25, 2014 1:46 pm
Sorry K2 if Kovalev is gonna be “The Champion” then he will get in there and beat the REAL Champion who at 175 is Stevenson… Both guys have gotta make some money but handing dudes tites is WEAK especially when its via politics as opposed to wins in the ring… Hops is a BEAST and every real boxer admires his longevity and ability to somehow stay in the mix at an advanced age…If Kovalev is all that he will have his time…Posted May 25, 2014 1:45 pm
Do you disagree that Campillo was robbed terribly against Cloud, Shumenov, and Murat? Because if so you’re part of a minuscule minority. Therefore I was correct about Hopkins being a paper champion and the belts truthfully belonging to Kovalev.Posted May 25, 2014 1:42 pm
It has nothing to do with jealously. I don’t know where you’re getting that from? I’m just stating facts and it’s a fact that three-round Kovalev KO victim Campillo was robbed terribly against Cloud, Shumenov, and Murat. It’s also a fact that Hopkins won his belts of Cloud and Shumenov and is only the unified champion because they were the recipients of terrible robberies.
I never said or tried to imply Kovalev has had a better career than Hopkins. I just said Hopkins, as of now, is a paper champion because the fighters he won them off were both paper champions due to them getting gifts. Kovalev beat the real holder of those belts. Truthfully they both belong to him.Posted May 25, 2014 1:38 pm
Honestly, I believe Stevenson was a bit surprised at Fonfara’s grit and heart, so was I, although I had seen the challenger fight four times previously. After the first knockdown Adonis probably expected an easy night as did most viewers. I believe Stevenson will benefit from this fight, but don’t believe he’ll be champ for and extended period of time, especially if he continually fights the elites of the division. Peace to all!!Posted May 25, 2014 1:35 pm
Gus says— Hopkins is not bothered by any of the criticisms about his butting, running, clinching, claiming fouls.
That is true Gus, all these fights mean to Hop is money in the bank. He’s not here for the people he doenst care about entertaining them. Hopkins is for Hopkins.Posted May 25, 2014 1:33 pm
Kovalev, is NOT even in Hopkins league as a career fighter the FACT that you have to try and exalt Kovalev over a 49 year old boxer who should be announcing or sent to ESPN tells us that HOPS is truly a once in a generation pugilist… Kovalev can earn his belts like EVERYONE else, get your name out there, become marketable, sell fights, he can certainly punch but this movie has been seen before by those of us who watch the sport…Kovalev and Stevenson will NEVER attain the accolades of a Bhop, its just not gonna happen 20 defenses one division, oldest legit Champ on more than one occasion, 2X LHW Champion and STILL in the mix at the age of 49… Don’t be Jealous HAHAHAHAHA!Posted May 25, 2014 1:32 pm
Adrian, I don’t think Stevenson is “Great” that said Chad Dawson accomplished WAYYYYYYY more than Matthew Macklin did LMAFO!!! answer this what belt did Macklin have when GGG beat him? Stevenson did get Dawson after a stoppage loss to Ward who is another level, but he was STILL the lineal LHW Champion and Stevenson knocked him out in the first round…Again, I don’t think Stevenson is “Great” and I sure as hell do not know just what GGG has given that pillow soft resume he has…”Matthew Macklin” c’mon man show me better than that if you are gonna pretend this guy is the most dangerous in boxing…Posted May 25, 2014 1:28 pm
Kovalev destroyed Campillo with contemptuous ease. And that was a Campillo who hadn’t lost legitimately for over five years going into that fight either.
Campillo was robbed terribly against Cloud, Shumenov, and Murat, had those decisions been correctly ruled in his favor, which they no unquestionably should have been, Bernard Hopkins would not even have one belt around his waist right now never mind being able to parade himself around as a unified champion.
Hopkins is nothing more than a paper champion as of now. His belts belong Kovalev’s waist. So that means Kovalev should really be the unified WBO, WBA and IBF champion.Posted May 25, 2014 1:27 pm
Adrian, Macklin is GGG’s best win that said Macklin dropped I think 2 out of 3 during that stretch and Martinez had softened him up nicely.. If you wanna laud GGG as “Great” for beating Macklin and a SLEW of other unheralded fighters then you must regard Martinez as an ATG by those standards… FACE FACTS GGG has a largely padded resume, guys cannot even extend proper credit to FMJ and Pac and these guys have defeated World Champions and HOFER’s why in the hell would I be overly impressed with GGG beating on Stevens and some obscure boxer in Morocco… His resume is WEAK and till that’s corrected I will keep him on “show and prove status”Posted May 25, 2014 1:24 pm
Stevenson beat a shot Chad Dawson. He beat a Cloud who’d already been schooled by Kovalev three-round KO victim Campillo and outboxed by Hopkins. So Cloud had lost two back-to-back fights when Stevenson beat him.
He beat a Darnell Boone who’d lost three on the spin, one of which a two round mauling to Kovalev.
He beat a Bellew who’d already been beaten by Kovalev four round KO victim Cleverly. Cleverly broke his rib in sparring a few weeks before that fight as well. And Bellew had already received a gift decision against Issac Chilemba a few fights before facing Stevenson.
And now he’s beaten Fonfara who was having his ears boxed off and being embarrassed by Kovalev three-round KO victim Campillo until he pulled it in the ninth.Posted May 25, 2014 1:19 pm
@CORRECTAMUNDO Very “versatile” how you can kiss Boxtra’s a** and YOURS at the same time!! I bet he can predict when he’s gonna fart in your mouth!!Posted May 25, 2014 1:14 pm
Sredmond , macklin was top 10 and supposed to be a real test for ggg but when ggg destroyed macklin you criticize ggg for beatin ” no one” as if macklin was a bum , but in Stevenson case who is ranked. Nr1 as a lhw and struggled and got put down too against someone who was there for Stevenson to ko just as he said it before the fight, you don’t criticize Stevenson’ s opposition but call macklin a “bum”? Someone is being hypocrite as usual ?Posted May 25, 2014 1:09 pm
kovalev turns ‘superman’ stevenson turn into clark kent
Fonfara got brutally ko’d in two rounds by derek findley.Posted May 25, 2014 1:05 pm
I find the criticism against certain fighters amazing. Some say Stevenson’s competition was weak thru his career, but Hopkins is amazing no matter how he does or who he fights. Since that mockery of a fight against RJJ he’s fought Pascal twice (1D, 1W) Dawson twice (won neither fight), Cloud (good punch but lacking tech skills and endurance) Murat (nobody), and Shumenov (nobody). Yet because Stevenson had a tough fight with a fighter who can take a hell of a punch, but obviously couldn’t outbox him, he has no chance against B-Hop. What has Hopkins done that would make anyone think it would be a definite B-Hop win? I don’t see it. IMO, it would be a good match, but Stevenson comes out on top.Posted May 25, 2014 1:02 pm
How is Stevenson “Exposed” because he WON and did not KO his opponent? everyone who fights is gonna have a tough night at the office its all about how bad it gets, did you lose? or take a real beating? Do you guys REALLY think that Kovalev is not gonna have a hard night? Lara? GGG? or Porter some of ya’ll simply have SHORT memoriesPosted May 25, 2014 12:58 pm
Hopkins is a boxing LEGEND, he has never taken beating from ANY fighter and the guy is almost 50 years old.. Stevenson, Kovalev and the rest will NEVER have the career that Bhop has authored.. Get real, you fools see a few KO’s and lose your minds discussing upstart fighters in the same breath as legends of the game SMH.Posted May 25, 2014 12:57 pm
in on post these cats wanna glorify nard hop and eve go so far as to say he could beat adonis, then a poster says dawson was not good because he fought the seniors tour.
you cant praise hopkins and flip flop and say dawsons wins were devalued because nard hop was old wtf is that? you look like dumba$$e$ when you do that.Posted May 25, 2014 12:45 pm
chad dawson certainly had talent and his had an aesthetically pleasing style, but his legend was formed of fighting on the senior’s tour against opponents who were old enough to be his grandfather
glen johnson who was in his 40s. i’m sure one of them was highly controversial as well
antonio tarver was also in his 40s
and b hop was near 50 yrs of age
even eric harding was in his mid 30s when dawson beat him
to put things into perspective, dawson is still only 31 now
to add a little more
johnson hasn’t beaten a top level opponent in years. his durability and experience has enabled him to compete at the top level, but in recent years he’s only been capable of beating mid level opposition like allan green and yusef mack.
the same can be said for tarver. he’s not beaten any top class operators for the best part of the decade. the only names on his cv he’s beaten in recent years are clinton woods and danny green.
woods was sick for that fight and he had an absolutely terrible camp.
green was never much cop even when he used to campaign down at his natural weight 2 divisions below.
many felt the albanian elvir muriqi beat tarver the year before dawson got his hands on him.
jean pascal beat dawson, but what the hell is so special about pascal? his 2nd best win is lucian bute and not even a prime bute. bute was completely finished at the top level after the froch hammering.
dawson’s best win for me was over adamek. but even that one isn’t that impressive when you take a closer inspection. adamek’s best weight was cruiser and he was obviously draining himself silly to compete down at 175. who did he ever beat at that weight to make beating him such a great scalp? paul briggs? i and many others felt briggs won both of those fights.
the less we say about dawson losing by stoppage to the light hitting andre ward the better.
stevenson is obviously a heavy puncher, but name another 175 pounder he’s dispatched as quickly and easily as he did dawson? darnell boone lasted 6. cloud went 7. bellew made it to the 8th. and fonfara went the full routePosted May 25, 2014 12:19 pm
I didn’t see the fight. From the comments I deduce that Adonis is old and if does not knock his opponent early he can be taken apart by a masterful boxer. Hopkins is smart and he will take him apart. Stevenson does not have the discipline to learn new tricks at this late stage of his career. I don’t like Hopkins but I believe in this era of boxing with all of its politics and promotional wars he is being set up to win the WBC lt heavyweight championship. Will Hopkins fight Kovalev? If he does, I believe Kovalev has enough skills and stamina to outlast if not knock out Hopkins. But he (Kovalev) has to be aggressive and not let Hopkins dictate the fight otherwise he could lose against the old fart.Posted May 25, 2014 11:54 am
it is like adonis “quazzi motto” stevenson got exposed though. is i not fitting and perfect? adonis stock tumbled as he fled kovalev and HBO to showtime screaming “sanctuary”. a lot if us were VERY dissapointed to say the least. adonis was called a piece of sh!t by kovalev (weak response, stock again tumbles).
you could not have scripted this better folks!! this dishonorable turd stevenson has again seen his stock tumble by struggling with and getting DUMPED on his a$$ by fonfara.
Now we look at donis record with detailed scruples. remove dawson from adonis picture and what does adonis have? not much. we might be able to remove some of dawsons scalp value. maybe dawson was just a shell of himself in there with adonis.
i think itsclear kovalev STANDS as number one light heavyweight in the world. i make no bones about itPosted May 25, 2014 11:43 am
Great contest. However, I’d like to hear more from Paulie and Al Bernstein, the real fight analysts during these bouts. At times they were almost silent for entire rounds.Posted May 25, 2014 11:17 am
It’s not about Stevenson being “exposed”but he struggled against a tough but not the best lhw fonfara , I agree with the prince about Stevenson being spoiled of his punching power but for god sake don’t try to make it as fonfara was the best out there and not because Stevenson failed to impress !
I could only imagine if ggg would have been dropped and struggled against macklin , most of these guys who say that they shouldn’t call Stevenson as being ” exposed” you can bet they would say ggg is a farse !Posted May 25, 2014 10:36 am
Bernard frustrates and decisions him. Kovalev murders him.Posted May 25, 2014 10:04 am
heard jim gray asked about kovalevPosted May 25, 2014 9:50 am
it’s clear to me 15 round fight fonfara would have KO’ed the pimpPosted May 25, 2014 9:17 am
Kovalev Krytronite.Posted May 25, 2014 9:05 am
A champion or any fighter for that matter who gets knocked down and has to switch strategy – body punching in this case – to pull out a decision should not be considered as being badly exposed – Shouldn’t Stevenson be given credit for going to a plan B?Posted May 25, 2014 8:06 am
Hopkins is not bothered by any of the criticisms about his butting, running, clinching, claiming fouls. He would find a way to go the distance with Klitsko and maybe come out with a victory on a disqualification. The top lt heavies should not fight him. Stevenson is no Bob Foster or Archie and he was fading fast , and was close to being stoped in the 12th.Posted May 25, 2014 7:58 am
Some people are not true boxing fans. A talented fighter getting hit or challenged doesn’t mean exposed. The one hole I see in Stevenson game is like most boxers used to scoring KOs, he’s gotten too confident and spoiled with his power. Not every boxer is going to go down, and the ones that do, not everyone of them is going to stay down. Stevenson would be wise to learn from this fight and not look for the KO unless he is sure he can get it. Part of the reason he got tired in the later rounds, was because he used so much energy trying to KO Fonfara early. When GGG, Kovalev, and other boxers certain people love to name get challenged, knockdown, or lose, remember to call them exposed as well.Posted May 25, 2014 7:50 am
There is no real interesting lhw fight IMO that excludes kovalev at the mo. Additionally, for Stevenson to redeem his reputation with many boxing people he needs to take on the Russian.Posted May 25, 2014 7:44 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Chad Dawson was an immensely talented fighter in his prime. One of the best pure boxers of the last ten years for sure. He just never really managed to captivate audiences or find himself in the type of fights, with the type of opponents, that he needed to become the star he was talented enough to become. Fighting 12 rounders with Tarver, Hopkins and Johnson all of which were old and awkward was not a recipe for stardom. If Chad had managed to become a big enough name to fight marquee fighters then who knows. He certainly, at least in my mind, never recovered from that absurd move down to super middleweight for HBOs hit job on him against Ward. I mean he was supremely conditioned, with not an ounce of fat on his body, not even half an ounce at 175 as lean as lean gets and he drops down 7 pounds to fight someone like Ward??? Insane and career killing move on his part. Only thing I never liked about Dawson was how he had a penchant for blaming his own trainers when things went wrongPosted May 25, 2014 7:27 am
Chad Dawson was good no question about it but the guy had problem with his carriere and I think his first loss against Pasquale really hurt his confidence because after that fight he fought scared I don’t really know why …Posted May 25, 2014 7:25 am
you got that rightPosted May 25, 2014 7:22 am
Only one LH that interests me at all…kovalev. He would destroy stevenson and Hopkins on the same night. If ward stepped up that would make it interesting but anyone else at LH or SM would be slaughtered.Posted May 25, 2014 7:12 am
Chad Dawson was a REALLY good fighter once and arguments to the contrary are revisionist, he did box in
Boxings a joke EVERYONE gets hit, everyone, has bad nights if you guys think Stevenson, Kovalev, Porter, Lara, GGG
STEVENSON WINS JUST AS I PREDICTED!!! I AM THE GREATEST PROPHET EVER!!Posted May 25, 2014 4:48 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Rod. Fonfara is in great shape. That’s just his body type. He had to be in serious condition to withstand all that Stevenson dished out in the first half of the fight and retain the stamina needed to mount a decent comeback in the latter part of the fight. Not sure what to make of last night. Entertaining fight but I suppose Stevenson was never ever going to be able to live up to the incredible fanfare that his career defining destruction of Chad Dawson created for himPosted May 25, 2014 4:46 am
Sure Hopkinsis more skilled than Stevenson but who wants to watch ring stalling, and clenching. Hopkins is a forgotton fighter. Boring !Posted May 25, 2014 4:12 am
Tark is correct about fonfara. He needs to work his strength and conditioning. Just does not look athletic. Soft and skinny and not explosive.Posted May 25, 2014 3:58 am
Stevenson was not exposed he clearly won but he does have room for improvement. A skilled fighter can tag him. If kovalev can tag him it could be good night but if stevenson can tag kovalev who struggles moving backwards it could be goodnite. I want to see that fight. As for hopkins he will toy with stevenson and make him look badPosted May 25, 2014 3:54 am
This was not a test for Stevenson… He fought a skinny, weak, soft, pencil-necked fighter who has no idea how to clinch or defend himself.. Anyone who gets hit with that high a percentage of punches from ANYONE cannot defend himself well … Fonfara needs a boxing coach.
Fonfara lacks the musculature or tone of a competition swimmer much less a boxer.. Even a top college basketball player is stronger and better toned. He needs a strength trainer very badly.. His stance lacks strength, sharpness, and spring.. His foot work and hand movements aren’t sharp. He’s very sloppy and disorganized. It takes too much effort for Fonfara to throw a hard punch because he’s weak.
Stevenson bullied the kid because he’s so much stronger. He can throw harder with less effort.. That’s was being strong, toned, and sharp does for you.. Stevenson was well trained condition wise. He’s not an advanced technical boxer. Getting hit with stupid stuff gets you tired, and AS got tired.. Kovalev would have flattened Stevenson. I’m certain that fight will not happen—but I’m just as certain Stevenson will beat Hopkins.
Stevenson probably didn’t expect Fonfara to go beyond six… The fact that he went 12 was a lack of focus and consistency on Stevenson’s part… He should have had him out early.Posted May 25, 2014 3:41 am
Fonfara earned a fan tonightPosted May 25, 2014 3:34 am
Hecdog open your eyes. The Krusher would tear Stevenson to pieces, he`d beat him like the dog he is.Posted May 25, 2014 3:22 am
Adonis Stevenson did exactly what he was suppose to do. If any of you have followed Fonfara, you would have know that the guy is tough as nails and has very good boxing skills. His height and arm length give anyone trouble so let’s not start saying Hopkins or Kovalev can beat him because they can’t and won’t. Did any of you see the character of Adonis after he was dropped? The man came right back and wanted to take Fonfara out. Adonis has a big heart, and this is another victory and learning lesson. Adonis Stevenson is the best light heavyweight boxer out there bar none. He has speed, power, great feet, great stamina and his confidence is at the top. He’s not just a talker. Adonis is a well rounded fighter and he will dominate both Hopkins and Kovalev. This fight showed that Adonis is the real deal, and he can overcome adversity. Don’t doubt him.Posted May 25, 2014 2:55 am
You can see why Stevenson ran like a b1tch from the Krusher.
He`d get squraped.Posted May 25, 2014 2:45 am
I picture Hopkins head ramming Stevenson on a tko winPosted May 25, 2014 2:31 am
How suddenly all became “experts”after tonight’s fight , they all say “Stevenson is a great fighter but has a bad defence ” lol hello…….
Dan the man
Fonfara tough, limited skills, but much respect to him. A lot of fighters would of took a dive from those body shotsPosted May 25, 2014 2:29 am
Dan the man
Hopkins is one of the dirtiest fighters ever to step in the ring.Posted May 25, 2014 2:27 am
Well I’m a new Fonfaro fan, tha’ boy’s a beast!Posted May 25, 2014 2:14 am
Kovalev would destroy this bum.hopkins too.the fans are sick and tired of Hopkins.he sucks.holds too much.the only reason he still fights is because he only throws 5 punches a round.Posted May 25, 2014 1:57 am
Author doesn’t seem to get that Guerrero was a top contender like Lemieux was a couple of years ago until the Brewer upset. These guys are both contender level fighters who needed to ko the other to stay relevant. Hard to say if David still has stamina issues, but it’s clear you cannot beat this guy in the first half of the fight.Posted May 25, 2014 1:45 am
I frankly thought Stevenson looked heavy, less tone — maybe out of shape, maybe he took Fonfara for granted.
Hopefully, he will learn from this and come back thinner and stronger with more wind for the final rounds.Posted May 25, 2014 1:37 am
Bernard Hopkins will like what he has just seen
He is probably in the kitchen right now . . .
Put a sock in it anonypussPosted May 25, 2014 1:19 am
Kovalev will knock Stevenson out. No wonder Stevenson left HBO to keep from fighting Kovalev, it was a very clear duck, but a smart duck……………Posted May 25, 2014 1:15 am
Tomato Can – Good point. People expect fighters to just blow people away. When they do, their called boring or their not picking the most challenging fights. And when they are in a challenging fight, then they’re overrated and never anything special.Posted May 25, 2014 1:06 am
Stevenson was never a perfect fighter, but I’ve yet to see a perfect fighter so I have no problem with Stevenson’s short comings in or out of the ring.Posted May 25, 2014 12:52 am
It’s high time that fans start realizing that anyone can lose or be pushed to the limit on any given night. The natural bigger, Fonfara came to fight and made it a great show.Posted May 25, 2014 12:49 am
Michael Spinks was more skilled than Mike Tyson lolPosted May 25, 2014 12:40 am
Havoc…. lol shut up, Adonis destroyed Dawson in the first round, we all saw it… No luck at all.Posted May 25, 2014 12:39 am
Dawson is more skilled than Stevenson, but Adonis is the better fighter.Posted May 25, 2014 12:28 am
Havoc, they are comparable. I would not rate a Prime Chad Dawson (who is now past his prime) much higher or much lower than Stevenson. They both have only fair perhaps suspect chins. Chad is reputed to have better Stamina, but a much lower workrate. Stevenson throws much more than dawson and with more power. Dawson has a longer reach and is technically a little sharper at his best. Dawson however has complete mental lapses…terrible attribute to have. Stevenson has physical lapses. He gets tired and falls apart momentarily until he catches his second wind. But he does not fight scared as much as Dawson.Posted May 25, 2014 12:22 am
Also on David Lemieux, He has improved since his loss to Rubio. I beleive he was to young at the time. He is 25 now and has more man strength. He appears more solid. He also has great professional work ethic. It is way to soon for him to fight GGG, he would be taken apart bit by bit. I think he needs about another 2 years before he is at his absolute best, I think he should fight a ranked guy or two, and challenge Peter Quillian. That is a title he could potentially win.Posted May 25, 2014 12:18 am
HBO didn’t match Showtime’s contract offer, that’s why Stevenson left HBO. Stevenson just punch himself out but it won’t happen against Hopkins…Posted May 25, 2014 12:17 am
I will root for Bernard but i will not pick him. He likes being the underdog anyway. But i think Stevenson’s style and attributes are wrong for him. I like Stevenson by a close but fair decision. I do believe Bernard will feel the power in those punches and Adonis will have plenty of energy to maintain his fast reflexes because Bernard simply will not fight at a fast pace, he wants the fight to be as slow as possible. Bernards chance is by landing hard accurate unexpected fight hand counters and leads right on the chin and hurting Stevenson. He is not gonna outwork or outbox Stevenson.Posted May 25, 2014 12:11 am
Superman bubble has been officially burst in his winning fight against a guy nobody knew…Posted May 25, 2014 12:10 am
If Adonis beats Hopkins, its only because of Age not skillPosted May 25, 2014 12:09 am
Walks like, sounds like.
Hopkins and Stevenson will probably fight, the two duckers who will not fight Kovalev, absolutely not,Posted May 25, 2014 12:08 am
Al Haymon that isPosted May 25, 2014 12:06 am
I will laugh when Adonis loses to Bhop, don’t think he’ll thank him for that.Posted May 25, 2014 12:05 am
Havoc, let me ask you something. Did you see Bhop lose to Chad Dawson? How highly do you regard Dawson? Dawson has never been that impressive to me, and he beat hopkins clearly. Don’t overrate Bernard, and don’t underrate Stevenson. It is a 60/40 type fight. Bernard has a chance. I am not picking him though.Posted May 25, 2014 12:05 am
One of the weakneses I noticed in Kovalevs last fight is that, he cant fight going backwards. Cedric exploited that flaw.Posted May 25, 2014 12:05 am
touching gloves is very g-ay.Posted May 25, 2014 12:04 am
My Granny and Groves could beat Stevenson.Posted May 25, 2014 12:04 am
Robert Griffith, that is a good analysis of a potential Kovalev vs Stevenson fight. I see it the same way. I give Adonis a punchers chance, but after seeing Fonfara take all his best shots i beleive Sergei would weather any tough spots in the fight. No way Stevenson can weather all that Kovalev can dish out. I also see Adonis having to burn alot of energy back pedaling in that fight. I see Kovalev walking him down all night.Posted May 25, 2014 12:02 am
One other tidbit i have observed. I think Adonis was better at 168, he had better stamina (supposedly holds the record for punches thrown in a fight there) and he looks a little chunky at 175, it also does not help that he is in his mid 30’s late start in boxing or not. If he goes 12 rounds with Hopkins i think Adonis will win. Bernard to me actually should gun for a KO against Stevenson. I think he has a suspect chin. Bernard has underrated power and he uses it sparingly. Bernard can not slow down the pace like he likes to in that fight. Athletic fighters beat bernard because they outwork him and out quick him. Even an old tiny ODLH was able to win rounds against bernard that way. Bernard is capable of scoring knockdowns or potentially a KO if he really goes for it. That is his best chance IMO.Posted May 24, 2014 11:58 pm
So is BoxRec still going to rate Stevenson as the number one light heavy after this fight? Not if they expect their ratings to mean anything to boxing fans.Posted May 24, 2014 11:57 pm
Havoc, its pass your bed time.Posted May 24, 2014 11:57 pm
Fonfara stood toe to toe with Stevenson for 12 rounds and banged. I am surprised he was able to absorb everything Stevenson was able to throw at him.
I was also a bit surprised that Fonfara was able to nail Stevenson on multiple occasions in the fight. After hearing about how great Stevenson’s is it came as a surprise. I do think Stevenson has a pretty good defense. It’s not however as good as he is often given credit for.
If he fights Kovalev he certainly has a punchers chance. But I actually think Kovalev is the better more highly skilled boxer of the two. If they fight I think Kovalev stops him from a accumulation of punches somewhere between rounds 8-11. I can’t see Stevenson getting nailed over and over by Kovalev shots while keeping his consciousness for 12 rounds.Posted May 24, 2014 11:54 pm
This is the fight that for me gives me a clear indication that i would pick Kovalev over Stevenson. Fonfara landed over 200 punches and i do not think Adonis can take 200 of Kovalev’s punches. It’s actually kinda embarrassing for showtime to have to avoid the Kovalev issue. Jim Gray snuck it in at the end of the interview. But it seems to me that the broadcasters had a silence clause about even mentioning it. Stevenson put on a good performance but some of the intrigue of him vs Kovalev has actually been exposed a little bit. Nobody has done to Kovalev what Fonfara did to Stevenson. He made him look human. Sergei does not look human right now. He looks like a monster. That is the difference between the two. The duck appears to be a very smart business move on Adonis’s part.Posted May 24, 2014 11:53 pm
Hopkins would win easy. Hopkins’ greatest strength is that he takes opponents game play away. Stevenson is not smart enough to beat Hopkins.Posted May 24, 2014 11:52 pm
Hopkins would lose against Stevenson, he is slow, don’t work, won’t work against Stevenson, Hopkins will try cheating tactics like against Calzaghe, he will still lose.Posted May 24, 2014 11:49 pm
Stevenson is a star made by Yvon Michel but he will find his shoe very soon. Meanwhile those that paid big money to see him fight proves that :
And to think that Stevenson had predicted a knock out of
Rubbish fight. Fonfara is crap. Walks forward like a robot, guard high, buckles almost every time Stevenson hits him, and then ‘touches gloves’ in round 10 ??? If I were his trainer I’d kick that loser out of my gym. He’s not in that ring to be nice, to show respect, he’s in there to beat the crap out of his opponent. No boxer should EVER touch gloves. His job is to smash the other guys face in. Touching gloves is a big sign of weakness!Posted May 24, 2014 11:46 pm
NO. Stevenson is a GREAT fighter where as Hopkins is an ALL TIME time great fighter!!
Hopkins will CONFUSE him and like my disciple said DROWN him with KNOWLEDGE to a UD!!!Posted May 24, 2014 11:44 pm
Kovalev must be licking his chops in anticipation of exterminating Stevenson.Posted May 24, 2014 11:44 pm
Do not fight Kovalev, Cleverly would wear out Stevenson and stop him.Posted May 24, 2014 11:44 pm
good $ move Adonis. sergy is waiting.Posted May 24, 2014 11:43 pm
Stevenson left hbo for a reasonPosted May 24, 2014 11:43 pm
Stevenson WINS JUST as I PREDICTED!!! I am the most CORRECT fight prophet EVER!!!Posted May 24, 2014 11:41 pm
Stevenson WINS JUST as I PREDICTED!!! I am the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!!Posted May 24, 2014 11:40 pm
Just watching this fight Stevenson can’t hang with kovalev not taking away any thing from fonfaraPosted May 24, 2014 11:40 pm
fonfara lack of experience had opportunity didn’t take acting itPosted May 24, 2014 11:39 pm
Very good fight. Stevenson showed power, he showed heart, but he also showed horrible defense. He’s become knockout spoiled and will have trouble with some other guys.Posted May 24, 2014 11:37 pm
Stevenson back in control. He once again fought on the inside and scored a lot of good body shots. But he’s tired and Fonfara has a punchers chance to possibly stop Stevenson if he gets careless.Posted May 24, 2014 11:33 pm
What will happen to Wilder when someone that has good size and power slips his shots and counters with a full force shot to his chin?Posted May 24, 2014 11:31 pm
Good comeback round for Stevenson. He decided to cut Fonfara’s range off by fighting on the inside.Posted May 24, 2014 11:29 pm
typo = hePosted May 24, 2014 11:25 pm
knockout power is fine, but what if the guy doesn’t stay down? That’s what Stevenson is finding out. Will if pull it off, or will Fonfara score a major career derailing upset…Posted May 24, 2014 11:25 pm
Stevenson doesn’t have a defense people are discovering.Posted May 24, 2014 11:24 pm
HOPKINS will Confuse then DROWN Stevenson!Posted May 24, 2014 11:23 pm
Stevenson lost. Upset.Posted May 24, 2014 11:22 pm
Stevenson better get his second wind. Fonfara is getting confident.Posted May 24, 2014 11:21 pm
Froch would of destroyed Stevenson.Posted May 24, 2014 11:19 pm
Stevenson tiring maybe, but still has the punch.Posted May 24, 2014 11:17 pm
I hope Stevenson trained for the full 12 rounds. This Fonfara guys isn’t going away.Posted May 24, 2014 11:17 pm
That’s what you call running from Fonfara in round 7.Posted May 24, 2014 11:12 pm
Kovalev would smash Stevenson, Stevenson is getting hit, Stevenson is slow and tired.Posted May 24, 2014 10:55 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
It was a KO win by Lemieux, not a TKO win.Posted May 24, 2014 10:48 pm
David Lemieux KO3 Fernando Guerrero, Guerrero got a beatdown.Posted May 24, 2014 10:30 pm
David Lemieux,Posted May 24, 2014 10:25 pm
What time is the p imp fighting, who treats boxing the same, Kovalev will knock him out.Posted May 24, 2014 9:45 pm
Brazilian Boxing Fan
I believe Stevenson will beat Fonfara.Posted May 24, 2014 9:17 pm
The Negro King
How much are these cats making for this one?Posted May 24, 2014 9:01 pm