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boxerpuncher

Sturm was robbed. Was Al Haymon part of this “match making”? :/

Posted June 11, 2014 10:59 pm 


D

lost them both. clean victories by shane and tito

Posted June 7, 2014 5:05 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

On the flip side of that; Oscar himself has been the victim of robberies; Trinidad fight comes to mind and the second fight with Mosley……

Posted June 7, 2014 1:55 pm 


Tachyon

Oscar had a lot of I would say really suspect judging fights Perneal Whitaker – robbery, Ike Quarty – robbery, Sturm – robbery. Oscar should have lost all of those fights but bent judge here or there guarantees victory. I see Oscar as a average fighter nothing special not like Floyd all of the credit and oscars titles should go to Arum excellent fight sit-ups is what made Oscar and Arum gets all the credit.

Posted June 7, 2014 1:42 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Minded my business….Not only are you a racist…YOU CAN’T READ EITHER…I stated how I judged the fight…I NEVER MENTIONED anyone in my post and out of nowhere; your faggot keyboard thugging ass come out of nowhere calling me names because of how I judged the fight…Eat a dick you homo….If anyone was bullied it was you….that’s why your hatred for Mexicans is so obvious; because they probably beat your ass and ran trains on your sister and made you watch…..

Posted June 7, 2014 12:57 pm 


ARE YOU SERIOUS?

Kent: Oskie Didn’t BOX rings around Tito… he RAN rings around Tito, there’s a difference

Posted June 7, 2014 12:25 pm 


CK

The in shape Oscar that fought Hops would have beaten Strum ,if he would have re matched! Oscar looked horrible in that fight and i will never understand why Oscar never wanted a another fight with a man(Strum) who clearly beat him!

Posted June 7, 2014 8:26 am 


Kent

Kind of made up for that robbery against Trinidad,IMO! Funny how haters will say that he lost to Tito when the fact is Oscar boxed rings around Tito the same way Strum boxed rings around Oscar!

Posted June 7, 2014 8:16 am 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

OCTAVIUS you should have minded your biz from the get go. You sound like an abused alter boy. go sue the church and leave boxing to real mens. Word!

Posted June 7, 2014 7:34 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@PUNKASSSATAN….It must feel good to be able to talk trash behind a keyboard…..

Posted June 7, 2014 1:54 am 


NEUTRAL CORNER

DAVID I agree. If I remember correctly that was Oscar’s last meaningful victory, although very controversial. He had 5 more fights of which he lost 3, stopped twice. His wins were over a virtually done Mayorga and 12rd nod over little and old Stevie Forbes. He ended his great career un-spectacularly.

Posted June 6, 2014 6:13 pm 


NEUTRAL CORNER

SATAN IS (not) MEXICAN Okay, you had your say now, made your ‘points’and given us your opinions and outlooks. Now, save the “jokes” a stick to boxing. Enjoy your evening, order a pizza or Chinese, tune in to Friday Night Fights, HBO 24/7 Cotto vs Martinez, Shobox The New Generation.. Cool?

Posted June 6, 2014 6:01 pm 


Mike Tyson

I laugh at all these conversations popping up under MY name. Everyone likes to be like me I guess. I I taught Marquez to drink his own urine and look what it did for him against Pacquiao. It also cures sore throats for anyone else that wants to try!!!!! I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!
Funny stuff.

Posted June 6, 2014 6:00 pm 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

@NEUTRAL maybe you should stay NEUTRAL on this. among other things tetumbo has backed mexstyle gang banging and his margacheater with total indifference, defending him and throwing racist comments at anybody with unwarranted regularity for merely making a constructive comment about a mex fighter. He has damaged many good articles with his outright bigotry and YOU know that this TRUE & FACT, the truth and nothing but. all I’m doing is pointing it out since it’s obviously clear that NOBODY dares to signal out his atrocities and racial insults. Summing things up I suggest that you stay NEUTRAL. Word!

Posted June 6, 2014 5:40 pm 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

LUKE
@ Satan how long have Mexicans been bullying you at work?

Octavius Jomar Chatman
@LUKE….I was thinking the same thing….

LUKE – OCTAVIUS judging by your “genuine” concerns it definitely seems like you both are victims of mex-style bullying. There is a bully hot line that you both can scamper to> 1-800-Imapunk,

Posted June 6, 2014 5:06 pm 


NEUTRAL CORNER

SATAN IS (not) MEXICAN No, regardless, 2 wrongs on’t make 1 right. Wrong is just that, WRONG! This is a boxing site. Yes, we all can get a little carried away nationality or hometown wise and sometimes TOO carried away, but I’ve come to realize that it’s sometimes part of the fun of this site. It’s basically all good. Take for example the Puerto Rican vs Mexico rivalry. Lately Mexico have been kicking our behinds but it makes it all the more enjoying when we win. Our Island has struggled a bit in the past but we’ve ALWAYS rebounded ans WILL again. I would be a liar if I deny that te tumbo can get a bit under my skin with his ‘Pu-tito and trinidud’ stuff but he’s enjoying his moments like I will enjoy mine. LOL I’ve had the blessing of having a good teacher in not taking things personal, especially when it comes to boxing. Most of what I learned and experienced I’ve acquired in this beloved sport I owe to him. Have a nice day.

Posted June 6, 2014 3:13 pm 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

@LUKE One tried but backed the fk down once I got in his face in the stockroom. Cowards usually know who to fk with. One “picked on” my defenseless Harley but the yellow belly was caught on tape. They basically prey on non citizen central american, Sansalvador and Nigaragua persons.

Posted June 6, 2014 2:30 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

You guys are some IDIOTS…That is NOT SREDMOND…That is me….And the reason I said that is because of the IDIOT making excuses for why Pavlik loss to Martinez…If he fell off the bandwagon and wasn’t taking care of himself as A REAL PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE SHOULD….That’s his own damn fault… AND YES….IT’S A CHEAP ASS EXCUSE….Believe what you want as far as who is posting this…THE TRUTH IS THE TRUTH…..

Posted June 6, 2014 1:54 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@LUKE….I was thinking the same thing….

Posted June 6, 2014 1:50 pm 


Jake Lead Rights

Felix Sturm was the bigger man that night and he was even bigger when he was asked if he thought he had won. He replied, “The fight was bigger than me”. If Oscar won that night he would move on to fight B-Hop. And thats the fight everyone wanted to see and thats the fight that would make more money…..So Felix had it right without a KO Felix was gonna go home without a belt….

Posted June 6, 2014 1:40 pm 


LUKE

@ Satan how long have Mexicans been bullying you at work?

Posted June 6, 2014 10:49 am 


YOU GOT BUSTED

YOU GOT BUSTED

You JUST post UNDER SREDMOND and NOTHING else?

Is that CORRECT?

Posted June 5, 2014 5:52 pm

SREDMOND

Hidalgo, I think you know in my arrogance I have never swiped a screen name in my life… I don’t think its Boxtra though not his style to my knowledge.. !

Posted June 5, 2014 5:44 pm

Posted June 6, 2014 10:02 am 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

Anonymous

SATAN IS MEXICAN…..ur racist coments and your really bad jokes about mexican ppl only shows how small your brain is and exposed your stupidity. ..ur coments show that u feel tha t you are woth more than mexicans …..shows ur ignorance and how stupid you are

@Anonymous, have you ever tried telling mister te tumbo that? or the rest of the truly bigoted twits on the this site? duhhh.. i bet not. the payback is a biaatch. he’s only getting his just portion. I don’t hate all latino ppl, half of my work buddies are spanish speaking, the only ones that take their hate to the next level are the mex, who bully and try to intimidate other latinos on the job, especially the Nica and those if San Salvador. Even threaten to call “la migra/imigration on them and hate other latinos for the dumbest reasons or slightest disagreements. te tumbo is an exact extract of those idiot gang banging mentality abusive fks, or haven’t you noticed, pal? The other whites, black and latinos get all great. Do two wrongs make a right. I say in this case it does. You sound like a good guy but hope you see my side if this as well. Cherio!

Posted June 6, 2014 9:39 am 


SREDMOND

Oscar discussed feeling like a bit of a “loser” after the Sturm bout he discussed that at his HOF induction the other day…In fairness even Oscar was openly embarassed

Posted June 6, 2014 9:17 am 


dick tiger

The following is a quote from a post made by Boxtradamus. “Schaefer is a jewish banker, enough said, Hitler had the right idea.” Attempting to erase a group of peoples is the right idea. You stupid, childish POS.

Posted June 6, 2014 7:57 am 


Ray Ray

10yrs ago? Been and gone. Remember when Sturm/Germany tried 2 rubbish sam solimons name with fake positive drug readings? Hows the humble pie taste Felix? What a piece a work. Every1 now no’s thay felix was making excuses….how many losses does sam have? Sturm paper champ, living in a corrupt country…..2 funny.

Posted June 6, 2014 5:50 am 


Another sad day for Pactards

Boxtra….. You have no boxing insight. You just babble bull$hit over and over.

Posted June 6, 2014 5:08 am 


D

boxsterdermer, you already admitted you blew broner-maidana you lying fuk

Posted June 6, 2014 2:07 am 


Boxtradamus

Rios was #0 P4P. EASY WIN for Pacquiao. I took Porter over Malignaggi with the ROUGH HOUSE WIN and I was CORRECT. Took Canelo as Angulo was another #0 P4P er taking on a Top 10 P4P er. Took Froch with the Nottingham NASTY KO and I was CORRECT yet again! !! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!

Posted June 6, 2014 1:11 am 


Boxtradamus

LOL. TARK. IF you think those were MY picks then you’d better take you a THINKING class.

Posted June 6, 2014 1:08 am 


Boxtradamus

Very NICE try disciple but NOPE. I told Rigo what to DO to WIN and he took MY advice. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!

Posted June 6, 2014 1:06 am 


D

dlh-sturm was more one-sided than cotto-clottey or pac-marq III. wasn’t close

Posted June 6, 2014 12:36 am 


Reality

Sturm stuck a jab in Oscar’s face all night and clearly dominated the bout. Oscar getting the decision was purely political and economic with a big money title fight on the line with Hopkins. It was a disgraceful decision…what’s worse is that some of you morons actually feel DLH deserved the win- Same guys that probably felt Cotto beat Clottey and Pacquia deserved the decision over Marques in their 3rd fight.

Posted June 5, 2014 11:36 pm 


Anonymous

SATAN IS MEXICAN…..ur racist coments and your really bad jokes about mexican ppl only shows how small your brain is and exposed your stupidity. ..ur coments show that u feel tha t you are woth more than mexicans …..shows ur ignorance and how stupid you are

Posted June 5, 2014 11:21 pm 


TARK

Boxtra says.., “The last major fight that I have got WRONG is was Rigo OVER DONAIRE and that was how long ago??”

You’re full of CRAP… You picked Broner to beat Maidana.

You picked Rios to beat Pacquiao…

You picked Malignaggi to beat Porter..

You picked Angulo to beat Canelo…

You picked Groves to beat Froch

Obviously if you pick both guys for every fight you can always claim to be right and say the other pick was an imposter. That’s what you do, and everybody is on to your game.

Posted June 5, 2014 11:20 pm 


Tachyon

Scrape past? Sturm beat ODH from corner to corner up into the concession stand he grabed a beer and continued whupp ODH ass all the way back. Sturm totally dominated Oscar and that was one of the biggest robberies in boxing History. Truly a black eye for boxing.

Posted June 5, 2014 10:04 pm 


Boxtradamus

PROPHET = profit below. See even the phones voice to text feature cannot predict words as well as I can predict fights!!!

Posted June 5, 2014 9:52 pm 


Boxtradamus

NOPE. I have the MOST disciples by FAR trying to be like ME on the site. It is obvious I’m not well-liked by many other posters out of ENVY DEEP inside them because they can not PICK fights with the FRIGHTENING accuracy that I do!! It’s to the point where they FALSELY post under My moniker the total OPPOSITE of my OFFICIAL predictions to then SAY that I was wrong when my TRUE predictions are RIGHT!

The last major fight that I have got WRONG is was Rigo OVER DONAIRE and that was how long ago??

Like it or not I have BEEN and I REMAIN the GREATEST fight profit EVER born!!!

Posted June 5, 2014 9:50 pm 


Livershot

Sturm was robbed, he out boxed ODH but for the interest of business and mega fight with hopkins. he was given the decision.

Posted June 5, 2014 9:45 pm 


PEEJ

Didn’t really scrap past. Sturm got robbed.

Posted June 5, 2014 9:05 pm 


The oracle of Delphi

Sturm had to knock him out to win. He didn’t and lost. Oscar had a bigger amd flashier punch output (combinations) but was hit more often flush…

Posted June 5, 2014 8:53 pm 


Dan

Oscar lost and was going downhill fast

Posted June 5, 2014 8:40 pm 


EZ E

TUMBO Q-vo carnal! Primero, I hope you didn’t get me wrong about my “…so most Oscar fans gave him the benefit of a “bad night/first fight at Middleweight” excuse comment. I wasn’t referring to Oscar’s Mexican fans. I meant ALL of his fans. At the time Oscar was thee Numero Uno/#1 fight figure, thee Golden Boy with boxing’s LARGEST fan base. Now as for the fight itself, I reviewed it earlier out of interest, Sturm UN-officially won on my card. Anyway, sometimes there are clear winners although the scores are close, and there are wide scores of closer fights. For example: the first Floyd vs Castillo fight the judges gave it to Floyd by inconceivable 4 & 5 (116-111 and 115-114) point margins. Most fans that witnessed it that night thought Castillo deserved NO LESS than a draw, including me. In the rematch Floyd seemed to have won with some to spare BUT the officials came up with closer 115-113 scores. Anyway, as for Pac vs Marquez, all the fights (except the last of course) were exceptionally close. I thought Pac won the first one but the other two…. hmmmm, nuff said. LOL!! Even the Garcia vs Herrera fight was close and maybe gone either way, but the Strum vs Oscar wasn’t one of those. But, like I already said, we’ve all seen worse, a lot worse. Bueno Carnal, paz y respeto. Peace to all.

Posted June 5, 2014 7:09 pm 


D

sredmond and boxtradamus are the dumbest fuks in the history of esb. they constantly invent new aliases to praise themselves and it’s super obvious

Posted June 5, 2014 6:19 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

SUPREME COURT is THE alias HE uses TO post HIS HARDCORE racist VIEWS

Posted June 5, 2014 6:08 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

There IS absolutely NO QUESTIONING whether HE’S SUPREME COURT or NOT

I’ve SEEN them POST near IDENTICAL posts AND very SIMILAR ones OFTEN

It’s HIM for SURE

Posted June 5, 2014 6:07 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“has SREDMOND been CAUGHT RED HANDED doing this BEFORE?” – Yes, only it was even more obvious. He was carrying on a conversation with himself as Supreme Court but forgot to change his screen name. Pathetic.

Posted June 5, 2014 6:00 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Nice try SREDMOND but your wit is as lame as your dozens (hundreds) of posts per day. There are many SREDMOND screen names at ESB. It’s kind of like the roaches in his mom’s basement. Every time he turns on the light one morphs into a dozen.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:58 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

has SREDMOND been CAUGHT RED HANDED doing this BEFORE?

Posted June 5, 2014 5:35 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

is CHATMAN backing SREDMOND up on THIS page?

Posted June 5, 2014 5:34 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

didn’t TAKE SREDMOND long TO appear AFTER he GOT busted

Posted June 5, 2014 5:32 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

Thats SREDMOND down TO a TEE

Posted June 5, 2014 5:31 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

CHATMAN using LOTS of HIGHER case FOR extra EMPHASIS

Not BUYING the EXCUSES

Dismissing THEM as a COP OUT

Posted June 5, 2014 5:30 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

Is ANYONE going TO DISPUTE this looks EXACTLY LIKE an SREDMOND post?

Octavius Jomar Chatman

If you are a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE…It is your RESPONSIBILITY to stay in the best shape possible REGARDLESS whether you are in training for a fight or not…If he abused his body during his downtime that’s his fault and should not be used as a COP OUT or an EXCUSE as to why he had a bad performance…That just shows lack of SELF DISCIPLINE on his part….I have NO RESPECT for that….He gets no pass here….

Posted June 5, 2014 4:16 pm

Posted June 5, 2014 5:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Kelvin, Europe and other nations are RIFE with bad decisions and subterfuge the US hardly has a monopoly on any of that (Helenius vs Chisora) (Sturm vs Macklin) I believe it was.. Most of the Americans on the site are acknowledging that Sturm got it in the rear facing ODH so that pretty much debunks your theory..!

Posted June 5, 2014 5:24 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

SREDMOND

You just got busted

busted BAD

the EXACT same WRITING style as CHATMAN

The EXACT same RESPONSE you would’ve responded WITH

the EXACT same RESPONSE you’ve WRITTEN many TIMES before

written IN the NEXT response

CHATMAN is ALWAYS backing YOU up

CHATMAN EVEN IMMEDIATELY backed YOU UP on THIS article

you got BUSTED.

busted BAD

HA HA

Posted June 5, 2014 5:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Fight Aficianado, there is ONLY one SREDMOND and he lives under your skin and inside your wifes loins my friend :)

Posted June 5, 2014 5:21 pm 


Anonymous

Thanks for that Turb0 Hamster

Posted June 5, 2014 5:21 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“SREDMOND JUST GOT BUSTED POSTING UNDER ONE OF HIS ALIASES, Octavius Jomar Chatman HA HA SREDMOND accidentally forgot to change his name before he typed that response.” – LOL Again? SREDMOND = Supreme Court = Public Enemy = Octavius Jomar Chatman. How many others? SREDMOND go get a job you obv have too much time on your hands.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:15 pm 


Lord Kelvin

This SREDMOND character who feels the need to CAPITALISE and write HAHAHAHHAHAHHAHHAHHAHHA at the end of his sentences…..the Lord most verily disapproves of this boorish behaviour.

It is the actions of a man who has a face made out of stitched together anuses.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:14 pm 


Lord Kelvin

Alas all pugilistic encounters in the USA are skewed in favour of the home fighter, be it the judging, the refereeing or indeed the voracious use of performance enhancing substances among the majority of American boxers.

If one peruses an American dictionary, one will find the whole “H” section containing the words “HOnesty” and “Honour” missing.
The dictionary in fact picks up again at “Hotdog” unsurprisingly.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:12 pm 


Fight Aficionado

A fight best forgotten. Oscar showed up fat and got out-hustled 7-5 in rounds. The judges gave it to him because 1. he was the house fighter and 2. a big showdown with Bhop was on the plate. I felt bad for Sturm, until he morphed into a cherry picking fake title holder hiding away in Germany where he took his turn with bogus decision wins.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:11 pm 


te tumbo

. . . not to mention DLH v. Trinidud and Mosley II. those were serious travesties that favored two unscrupulous CHEATS.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:06 pm 


SREDMOND

You forgot to call me Moses, and Allah also sheesh!! But I do live in Brooklyn!! Barclays baby

Posted June 5, 2014 5:06 pm 


te tumbo

“bad night/first fight at Middleweight” is precisely right. after all, who (other than DLH-Haters and PuTito-Lovers) seriously wanted Sturm to sabotage the scheduled showdown between Hopkins and DLH? moreover, Sturm essentially refused to build on the momentum of his bout v. DLH and lapsed into increasingly underwhelming and irrelevant “contender” status ever since. besides, there’s been worse, e.g., Garcia v. Herrera or Marquez v. Pacquiao III.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:04 pm 


SATAN LIVES IN BROOKYLN

SREDMOND=SUPREME COURT=PUBLIC ENEMY

BUT THATS IT!!!

Posted June 5, 2014 5:03 pm 


SREDMOND

I get accused of being EVERYONE from Jesus to Satan its no matter to me… I have one NAME and one perspective its SREDMOND if you wanna discuss, debate or argue that’s fine with me… I love my own opinion to much to have an alternate screen name, never understood the REASON for the people doing that… Please explain? I don’t need ANYONE to agree with me especially some of the kooks on this site… HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted June 5, 2014 4:57 pm 


YOU GOT BUSTED

SREDMOND JUST GOT BUSTED POSTING UNDER ONE OF HIS ALIASES, Octavius Jomar Chatman

HA HA SREDMOND accidentally forgot to change his name before he typed that response.

SREDMOND is Octavius Jomar Chatman.

They have the EXACT same WRITING STYLE.

That was the EXACT same ANSWER SREDMOND would’ve and HAS responded WITH MANY times in THE PAST.

And COINCIDENTALLY enough Octavius is always backing SREDMOND up.

BUSTED!!!

Posted June 5, 2014 4:40 pm

Jefe

Datruth blows borica chorizo.

Posted June 5, 2014 4:38 pm

Anonymous

all fighters make mistakes in the ring, question is, are you quick enough to exploit them, and are you quick enough to keep from being exploited on your mistakes

Posted June 5, 2014 4:17 pm

Octavius Jomar Chatman

If you are a PROFESSIONAL ATHLETE…It is your RESPONSIBILITY to stay in the best shape possible REGARDLESS whether you are in training for a fight or not…If he abused his body during his downtime that’s his fault and should not be used as a COP OUT or an EXCUSE as to why he had a bad performance…That just shows lack of SELF DISCIPLINE on his part….I have NO RESPECT for that….He gets no pass here….

Posted June 5, 2014 4:16 pm

Anonymous

Pavlik has had a serious drink problem for a long time. That’s just the reality of the situation. Problems outside of the ring affect different fighters differently. It’s not the same for everyone.

Duran and Chavez are two of the greatest to ever lace them up. Poor analogy. They had natural talent Pavlik can only dream of.

You can’t just lump individuals together and expect the same rules to apply to all. At best that’s just lazy and naive to think that, at worst just plain ignorant.

That’s like saying all fighters age at the same rate. Or like fighting with a broken hand isn’t a major obstacle to overcome because another fighter won a fight fighting with the same handicap.

You judge it on a case by case basis. On its own merits. Pavlik’s long standing battle with the bottle obviously impacted his career to a severe degree.

Posted June 5, 2014 3:45 pm

DaTruth

If Cotto can get to Martinez’s Body it’ll be a bad night for Sergio..but it will be tough for the naturally smaller Cotto.. but you have to take your hat off to Cotto for atleast having a set of Balls which most Boxers today have lost..

Posted June 5, 2014 3:26 pm

SREDMOND

Who CARES about all these issues boxers have! fact is that Pavlik had the MW title when Martinez took him out and Hopkins at 44 taking his 0 was no joke… Duran and Chavez Sr partied too but they kicked AZZ in the ring, I am NOT gonna ding Pavliks opponent for what he may or may not have been doing outside the ring…. On the night o the bout he got dealt with…

Posted June 5, 2014 3:06 pm

SREDMOND

Tark, stop trying to sell Martinez as anything other than a MW these days he has NOT fought at 154 in many years accept that you are WRONG…Floyd is a WW, he has NEVER fought 2x in a row at 154, he has done a few BIG bouts at 154 while NEVER coming close to making the limit… Try a little honesty in your life…

Posted June 5, 2014 2:45 pm

Anonymous

The knock down Pavlik scored against Martinez was BS.

Posted June 5, 2014 2:29 pm

etorres

Forget all the hype! How many elite fighter has maravilla face? Not good but elite at their best? Maybe 1? Cotto? At least 4? In my opinion Martinez chances lies in him been the bigger over all boxer. But what nobosy is saying is that cotto has one of the highest ring IQ in the ring and he has adapted to basically every challenge (except PC Man & Trout). Martinez has always been an easy target specially against the jab. The best thing that Martinez can do to win is keep his distance and use is body to push cotto away. In the other hand the best thing for cotto is that maravilla come foward trying to bullying him, because that way Maravilla will receive a job and a hook everytime he moves foward. Everybody is talking about the size and preasure of Martinez. But cotto has worked with that kind of preasure (and worst) before. Martinez is not as resistant and resilient as Margarito, but above all martinez has an average chin so if comes forward and cotto let go the jab he’ll visit the canvas for shure…… Prediction Cotto by decision in a real boxing clinic.

Posted June 5, 2014 2:26 pm

Anonymous

Pavlik was a drunkard long before Martiniez and Hopkins got a hold of him. There were posters from Youngstown on here who talked about it before then. They said it was common to see him propping up the bar drunk as as skunk and getting himself into trouble. He got himself arrested for punching an off-duty cop who was moonlighting as a bouncer after he’d tried to throw him and some of his buddies out for causing trouble. That was back in 06.

Posted June 5, 2014 4:43 pm 


ImJustSayin

Um 10 years ago he LOST!

Posted June 5, 2014 4:15 pm 


Anonymous

oscar lost, just like he lost all his most important fights, just a media darling with good talent but not exceptional skills

Posted June 5, 2014 4:10 pm 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

Octavius Jomar Chatman

I had Oscar winning the fight when I tallied my score; but it was by a point or two….extremely close….He looked terrible that night….He took Sturm for granted….

@Octavious, you are sounding more and more like “viva mexico right or wrong” te tumbo and Mad Scientist, who probably watched the fight in fishnets. I suggest you watch again, dude. No way Oskie won more than 4rds.

Posted June 5, 2014 3:40 pm 


SREDMOND

Octavious, Tark always has a claim he cannot substantiate I totally agree it was a BAD decision that said the judges likely took in the magnitude of a call against ODH and said fcuk Sturm as opposed to a brown bag and a wink… Tarks a moron..

Posted June 5, 2014 3:32 pm 


Anonymous

de la hoya is as bent as the rest of them muppets.

Posted June 5, 2014 2:14 pm 


Anonymous

Of course Sturm-Hoya was rigged. Not a chance in hell Sturm was ever going to get nod unless it was a shut out or he won by KO. There was too much money to be made from Hoya-Hops to let Sturm leave with his belt.

Posted June 5, 2014 2:08 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

@SREDMOND…He is probably going to send you to YouTube to some corny video him and some other moron made up…..

Posted June 5, 2014 1:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, AGAIN I agree the decision was unjust for Sturm but what evidence of a payoff do you have??? please enlighten? seems you are once again making things up and presenting as gospel just point that out man!

Posted June 5, 2014 1:54 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., STFU you raving, brainless fool

The fight was rigged. The evidence is very powerful. Two unlikely judges show up for a super important fight.

They hand the fight to the out-of-shape big name who got badly out scored.

They both show up for the winner’s historically important next fight.

Something stinks in the state of Denmark.

Posted June 5, 2014 1:37 pm 


malachi

i don’t care what anybody says ..if you said delahoya won that fight fan of his or not there is definitely a bias reason for your statement'(HANDS DOWN)not in a million years did he win that fight with strum ,no way!

Posted June 5, 2014 1:36 pm 


juggernaut

I remember Larry Meechant saying that De La Hoya looked like that he been eating too much chalupas and tacos

Posted June 5, 2014 12:58 pm 


WILenin

Scrapes by? That was an excellent example of highway robbery.

Posted June 5, 2014 12:49 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I had Oscar winning the fight when I tallied my score; but it was by a point or two….extremely close….He looked terrible that night….He took Sturm for granted….

Posted June 5, 2014 12:42 pm 


SREDMOND

I mean I think it was a terrible decision but NO ONE even knew Sturm or took him as a serious threat at that point.. Simply a tuneup to get ODH ready for Hops instead Oscar showed up looking SOFT as hell and Sturm kept him on the end of that jab for most of the night.. I think the judges leaned heavily towards Oscar but alleging a payoff strikes me as a conspiracy theory (unproven)

Posted June 5, 2014 12:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, could you show us your proof of the payoff? I mean I would be interested to see you prove ANY of your wild theories..Not asking a lot man, you have alleged a “payoff” I am sure you have more than your rotten brain to explain away this bad decision.

Posted June 5, 2014 12:35 pm 


mephisto

so what? what this has to do with anything happening now?

Posted June 5, 2014 12:31 pm 


TARK

The judges were paid off for doing what they did. A stolen title changed hands.

What many people DON’T know is that the SAME TWO JUDGES showed up for De La Hoya’s NEXT FIGHT — against none other than Bernard Hopkins in a super rich unification fight for the middleweight championship. What are the odds?

It was a pillow fight for about 6 rounds—but soon after Hopkins started chasing and punishing him, Oscar he went down from a left hook to the body…and stayed there… letting out huge groans… and pounding on the canvas in frustration as the count was tolled.

Who does that after they take a lethal liver shot?

A fighter either gets up, like Maidana did—or they don’t, like Castillo did. They don’t stay on the canvas letting loose a round of groaning, pounding, and histrionics.

Oscar got a 75/25 purse split… Hopkins jumped on it. He sensed it was a bluff.

Posted June 5, 2014 12:23 pm 


kato3388

Co-sign… Sturm won that one handily.

Posted June 5, 2014 12:16 pm 


DaTruth

Everyone including Delahoya knew DLH lost to STurm that night.. it was a gift for the Golden Boy..

Posted June 5, 2014 11:47 am 


Talk to my promoter

De La Hoya is a crack head cross dresser. Down with Golden boy promotions.

Posted June 5, 2014 10:47 am 


malachi

i was embarrassed as a boxing fan after the results of that robbery..strum clearly out shined Oscar…yezzir!

Posted June 5, 2014 10:04 am 


EZ E

I also thought that Sturm won it rather clearly, but we’ve all seen worse. If I remember correctly, the Oscar vs Behops fight was already in the works so most Oscar fans gave him the benefit of a “bad night/first fight at Middleweight” excuse. HBO/media kind’a like ‘swept it under the rug’ as quickly & best they could, but it’s not easy to fool GENUINE HARD CORE fight aficionados. Sturm himself had later benefited from a few controversial calls himself but that doesn’t change things.

Posted June 5, 2014 9:53 am 


albeziel

Swedish Boxing Fan, Oscar took a beating, Sturm won like 9-3 or 8-4 being merciful to Oscar, it was a clear setup for the Hopkins fight.

Posted June 5, 2014 9:36 am 


SREDMOND

I’m an Oscar fan but the judges were definitely thinking of the implications of his losing that night IMO… Sturm was tagging Oscar with the jab clearly ALL night long and after the bout you ODH said “he has a beautiful jab” and discussed how he (Oscar) tried to come on as the rounds continued.

Posted June 5, 2014 9:34 am 


albeziel

Oscar lost that fight, it was a robbery, I felt bad for Sturm but the ones who saw that fight know that Oscar did not won more than 4 rounds. It was the worst ODH ever seen on TV. Looked awful.

Posted June 5, 2014 9:22 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Felix Sturm is not a bad boxer in my view but I’m honest here and I’m haven’t been impressed with Sturm’s performance in the ring and he being a world title holder since 2004 and I believe I never will be impressed on him in the ring ever.
Sorry but he made me very disappointed a few years back and he have so far shown NO interest to fight the very best yet.

Back then when he could have fought Bernard Hopkins (even after the Oscar De La Hoya fight he could have challenged him), Jermain Taylor (The one who he in first place should have fought for the WBA belt and just waited till after the Hopkins-Taylor 2 fight instead for complaining to the WBA for the belt), Arthur Abraham (in a WBA/IBF world title unification but Sturm refused to respond his challenges for that fight), Kelly Pavlik (same there Sturm did not want him), Edison Miranda, Winky Wright, Sergio Gabriel Martinez or even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Gennady Golovkin etc.

For me Sturm is just a enough good boxer BUT a made up paper champ who never fought any serious test to get it or deserve to keep it. In my old book a recognised champion must either fight very often with many title defences or go for fighting the best possible and win all recognised titles.

Oscar De La Hoya was the better aggresor in the ring and that sold it to the judges and all three scored the fight unanimusly 113-115 for Oscar De La Hoya.

Posted June 5, 2014 8:56 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Felix Sturm is not a bad boxer in my view but I’m honest here and I’m haven’t been impressed with Sturm’s performance in the ring and he being a world title holder since 2004 and I believe I never will be impressed on him in the ring ever.
Sorry but he made me very disappointed a few years back and he have so far shown NO interest to fight the very best yet.

Back then when he could have fought Bernard Hopkins (even after the Oscar De La Hoya fight he could have challenged him), Jermain Taylor (The one who he in first place should have fought for the WBA belt and just waited till after the Hopkins-Taylor 2 fight instead for complaining to the WBA for the belt), Arthur Abraham (in a WBA/IBF world title unification but Sturm refused to respond his challenges for that fight), Kelly Pavlik (same there Sturm did not want him), Edison Miranda, Winky Wright, Sergio Gabriel Martinez or even Julio Cesar Chavez Jr, Gennady Golovkin etc.

For me Sturm is just a enough good boxer BUT a made up paper champ who never fought any serious test to get it or deserve to keep it. In my old book a recognised champion must either fight very often with many title defences or go for fighting the best possible and win all recognised titles.

Oscar De La Hoya was the better aggresor in the ring and that sold it to the judges and all three scored the fight unanimusly 113-115 for Oscar De La Hoya.

Posted June 5, 2014 8:39 am 


Anonymous

did he pass the strict vegas drugs test.

Posted June 5, 2014 8:26 am 


Neil (pomy)

“scapes past”!!!! …… it was a complete robbery.

Posted June 5, 2014 8:20 am 


Super Tom

I actually popped this fight in a couple of days ago wondering if Oscar could have pulled it out. Nope. 8-4 Sturm at best.

Oscar was pretty much robbed against Tito and Mosley 2, but this particular decision was worse than both.

Posted June 5, 2014 8:12 am 


Wizzard

Wast a travesty. Everyone expected Oscar to beat him, so when it was so close, people were surprised.

Posted June 5, 2014 8:06 am 


Anonymous

Oscar lost to Sturm and Sturm was robbed of so much that would have resulted from the victory. I was rooting for ODH but he was schooled that night. Btw he did beat Ike Quartay without a doubt

Posted June 5, 2014 8:01 am 


SATAN IS MEXICAN

Boxtra also predicted ten years ago that Schaefer was gonna leave GBP!!

Posted June 5, 2014 7:59 am 


Anonymous

Oscar won the second Mosley bout also, it was a travesty

Posted June 5, 2014 7:48 am 


Crimson Bolt

Since then “poor” Sturm fcuked everyone else who came to Germany.

So, no pitty neccesary

Posted June 5, 2014 7:18 am 


turbo hamster on tequila

They fcuked that poor adnan catic

Posted June 5, 2014 6:20 am 


DMX

He also lost to Ike Quartey
Should be 37-9
A journey mans record
Pervert . .

Posted June 5, 2014 6:11 am 


pobojc

Oscar lost this one 7-5.

Posted June 5, 2014 5:56 am 



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