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Tomato Can

FA, he wasn’t handling Jackson at 154 too well either. But he hung in there and got a lot of torque on that right hook, and it was lights out.

Posted June 10, 2014 11:09 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Congrats to Lee. I’ve always been a fan since his early pro days fighting out of Kronk. If he can make 154 consistently he should stay there IMO. JC Chavez showed us he can’t handle the bigger middle weights.

Posted June 10, 2014 3:32 pm 


killa kallo

@76 olympics. I agree.

Posted June 10, 2014 10:07 am 


’76 Olympic Team

Note to killa – degrading the man who just ktfo of your boi, is not bigging him up. Let the truth set you free, John & the canvas became one.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:39 am 


Bobby BallJar

Looks like Johnny got got his corn Cracked by a Cracker.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:33 am 


GingerWhinger

Jackson made a rookie mistake,Lee saw that opportunity when Jackson was coming at him like a bar brawler and landed a perfectly timed punch,and the weak chinned Jackson had his lights put out by a short punch that looked to have little power in it.Jackson has had his chin exposed

Posted June 10, 2014 5:44 am 


killa kallo

@ badger. Jajajajajjjjj john and his brother train at pearsons garden gym across from where I live. He’s my buddy and I see a lot of internet trolls just talking shyt. So I got to big up my boi!!

Posted June 9, 2014 8:43 pm 


badger

are you dating Jackson, kallo. wetf

Posted June 9, 2014 8:09 pm 


Ned

Andy Lee is a very laid back guy. Even in the ring he frequently fights off the ropes. Nevertheless, his experience makes him an extremely dangerous opponent. Andy’s 29, with a record of 35 fights and only 2 losses (Chavez Jr. and Vera) so he’s far from over the hill. He may do better now that he’s moved down to light middleweight.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:33 pm 


killa kallo

The beautiful thing is that when john got back here to st thomas his spirit and his confidence wasn’t broken. He knew he was in there with a bum and he was handling his business and he said he got careless. Lesson learned the hard way. But know john knows he belongs !!!

Posted June 9, 2014 6:49 pm 


killa kallo

Clinical one shot off the back foot about to get ktfo lucky shot lmao. U could say whateva u want but the world saw tha john was toying with that piece of shyt. John jackson was destroyng your your white trash

Posted June 9, 2014 6:45 pm 


Quick Jab

Clinical one shot KO on the backfoot against the the face first yanky nigga, oh and Lee is from Republic of Ireland and not British you dumb fuk.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:48 pm 


killa kallo

@76 olympic team. Lee was getting abused and on the run untill he landed that hail mary out of desparation. You obviously did not see the fight. Lee was bout to be put sleep horizontal like all brits

Posted June 9, 2014 4:42 pm 


’76 Olympic Team

This is the most amusing thread I’ve seen all year. Lucky punch. Ask Jackson if it was a ‘lucky’ punch. Killa, Love & Brit have been watching too many zombie & vampire movies, losing touch with reality. Way to go Andy…you made Manny proud!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:31 pm 


killa kallo

John jackson is the real deal. Young, fast, strong power in both hands. Future champ. Like it or not. He just got hit with a hail mary on his way to koing andy lee

Posted June 9, 2014 11:10 am 


Anonymous

PEEJ

Jackson is a disgrace to his people. Larry Holmes must be so ashamed right now. To go out like that against..

Posted June 9, 2014 2:34 am

I researched this post and it was posted by AUZBOX who I think is a Filipino who is now domiciled in Perth, Western Australia.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:47 am 


Jaguar

Pointless…

Posted June 9, 2014 7:37 am 


Love-the-Sport

You know what … you guys are right.

Boxing promoters and managers are so smart.

These guys are really great at matchmaking.

John Jackson vs. Andy Lee was really smart matchmaking.

This was such a good idea.

If I were John Jackson, I would be so thankful to my management for putting me in the ring with Andy Lee — what a great idea.

You guys are all so smart … oh wait … hold on … I am in Colorado … and I am high on weed… yes … I am high on weeeeeeeeeeeeed … I don’t know what I am saying.

Wait. Now, I am back. And maybe putting John Jackson in the ring with Andy Lee is a stupid f*cking idea and only a moron would think it is a good idea and the idea that there are lots and lots and lots of great examples of fighters who came back from getting concussed into stupidity early in their career DOESN’T MEAN PUTTING JOHN JACKSON IN THE RING WITH ANDY LEE WAS A GOOD IDEA.

You guys are right. I don’t know anything about boxing. We should see more fights like this … this was a great fight for John Jackson. He doesn’t have anything to worry about. He should just following the career path of John Ruiz and Amir Khan and Joe Louis, Rocky Lockridge, Buster
Whothef*ck because these are great examples of fighters he can follow.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:28 am 


Anonymous

The idiot below postin as PEEJ is an imposter trying to promote racial hatred. Good try punk, but you’ve been rumbled. Idiot.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:22 am 


PEEJ

Jackson is a disgrace to his people. Larry Holmes must be so ashamed right now. To go out like that against..

Posted June 9, 2014 2:34 am 


xXx

[Turb0-H@mster… xXx TKO1 Love-the-sport]

Lol, thx. Wonder if he’ll fade away and we’ll never hear from him again?

Posted June 9, 2014 1:41 am 


xXx

I actually like Andy Lee, he seems a nice guy and the Kronk/Steward connection is a good story, but he just looks vulnerable and gets hit way more than he should with his long reach.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:37 am 


Turb0-H@mster…

xXx TKO1 Love-the-sport

Posted June 9, 2014 1:35 am 


xXx

If it happens – Soliman KO Lee. Take it to the bank.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:30 am 


Andy Lee/Sam Soliman at the Gaelic Grounds!

I am a big fan of Andy Lee but I believe he looks too weak at 154, he should be back in middleweight and try to make a shot at the IBF belt of Sam Soliman

Posted June 9, 2014 1:22 am 


First time ere

At this point in Jackson is a time journeyman.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:50 am 


888

Lee won’t beat anyone at 154. Canelo, Lara, Molina, Trout, Kirkland, Andrade… all would own his @ss

Posted June 9, 2014 12:35 am 


888

Lee will get stopped if he fights a half decent opponent. I say Macklin or Murray takes him out.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:30 am 


888

Love-the-Sport-but-Know-Nothing-About-it.. LMAO

Posted June 9, 2014 12:26 am 


xXx

Love-the-Sport – You made the statement: ‘usually guys who get knocked out this early in their career fade away and you never hear about them again’.

I gave a random list guys who didn’t ‘fade away’ and went on to have decent careers.

Now you say they can only be what YOU consider ‘role models’, and old-time fighters can’t be considered because they can’t give inspiration to today’s young fighters such as John Jackson who can’t identify with them?

Way to move the goal posts and make it up as you go along.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:10 am 


Jaguar

Oh and the fact you ignored to acknowledge the other boxers mentioned by xXx and fixated your entire reply solely on Joe Louis, Rocky Lockridge, Buster Drayton speaks volumes. Don’t nit pick parts of someone’s argument to justify your viewpoint, address all of it, logically.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:03 am 


mark

Lee needs to fight Macklin ASAP.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:56 pm 


Jaguar

Couldn’t disagree with you more love-the-sport.

xXx quite easily invalidated your argument by pointing out several names that went on to succeed. In regards to the period as you point out is completely irrelevant, a knockout is a knockout and a comeback is a comeback. If anything todays generation are more equipped to make a comeback with the many precedents available i.e. Joe Louis, Rocky Lockridge, Buster Drayton!

A recent example would be Lennox Lewis, he was knocked down/out twice and is perceived to be within the top 20 heavyweights of all time.

Also you disprove your own stance by pointing out Ruiz, who came back after the violent knockout and did more or less what was expected of him, regardless of the available competition at the time.

Even more so your poorly chosen example Amir Khan, he alone debunks your whole argument. As everyone knows he is more susceptible to getting buzzed than your average boxer. Yet whether you like him or not he has managed to mix it with decent’ish competition. By your standards he should have folded the minute Maidana buzzed him.

Providing Jackson has the right people behind him and doesn’t cut corners majority would argue he can potentially become twice the boxer he originally was prior to being KO’d.

It would be more appropriate if you were to say someone who takes a viscous beating from rounds one to twelve to never be the same, as opposed to taking a couple of clean shots, less punishment..

Posted June 8, 2014 11:55 pm 


Love-the-Sport

xXx … great list of guys who came back from early career knockouts.

You have to go back to Joe Louis? Rocky Lockridge? and Buster Drayton?

Really? These guys are on your list. Joe Louis? Rocky Lockridge? Buster Drayton?

When I see these guys on your list … what it tells me is that bad management and bad matchmaking are bad news for a young fighter — because if you get hurt and knocked out by the grizzled veteran well you have at least Joe Louis, Rocky Lockridge, and Buster Drayton to look up to as role models.

And trust me, these are real role models that are really relevant for young kid in the year 2014. I mean, take Joe Louis — WHO WAS BORN IN 1914 EXACTLY 100 YEARS AGO !!! — I am sure John Jackson can identify with a guy born 100 years ago. Really relevant.

Posted June 8, 2014 11:25 pm 


killa kallo

ANONYMOUS. I back john jackson cuz I know dude personally and seen him train in st thomas. Lee got lucky. He was bout to be put out of his myserie. 3 week ago I witness john jackson knock out gabriel campillo SPARRING!!! John is da real deal. Like it or not u dirty racist

Posted June 8, 2014 11:02 pm 


xXx

This fight reminded me of Herol Graham vs Julian Jackson. Graham was dominating and trying to force the stoppage, left himself open then BANG! It can happen to novices and veterans alike.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:57 pm 


xXx

[Love-the-Sport - "Anybody else? This is not an easy thing to come back from … usually guys who get knocked out this early in their career fade away and you never hear about them again".]

Off the top of my head..

M A Barrera
Kostya Tszyu
Azumah Nelson
Terry Norris
Buster Drayton
Rocky Lockridge
Joe Louis
Manny Pacquiao
Nigel Benn
W Klitschko
Adonis Stevenson

.. all did OK after getting stopped/flattened early in their careers. Not saying Jackson will, but it’s very possible to come back from an early career KO loss as long as he learns from it.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:47 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Jaguar … Have you been following boxing over the last 5-10-15 years?

How many top guys have turned around their careers after a 1 punch knock-out by a mid-level veteran?

John Ruiz … who came back after a bad knockout loss to David Tua. John Ruiz became heavyweight champion in an era when there was no talent at the heavyweight division. I would say Ruiz did not have a “great” career.”

Amir Khan … Khan is still struggling to come back from the Brandeis Prescott knockout and has developed a reputation for great skills and weak chin.

Anybody else? This is not an easy thing to come back from … usually guys who get knocked out this early in their career fade away and you never hear about them again.

I think this was waste of talent and taking a big punch like that can have a negative effect on a young guys career. It was stupid matchmaking. period.

If you look at Jackson’s opponents on boxrec.com or some other website, he has not fought anybody … his record is totally absent anybody of any substance. This was bad matchmaking. They moved him into this fight too quickly. Period.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:59 pm 


Jaguar

@Love-the-sport

What you on about? So he loses and you’re writing him off as a wasteman..

The guy is 25 years old and gained invaluable experience last night. He got caught by a vet whilst going in… that’s it. Thank god you’re a fan and not a trainer or motivational speaker, otherwise they’d be lining up to jump off a bridge.

If he’s really good as you think he potentially ‘is’ (not was) then he’ll come back stronger and then we can really see whether he’s special or not. Long way to go yet..

Posted June 8, 2014 8:30 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Top contender?

Andy Lee is a top contender?

Have you been watching Andy Lee over the last 5-6 years?

Andy Lee has been fighting bar tenders and security guards over the last few years to build confidence and recover from his loss to Julio Cesar Chavez Jr.

(I mean Chavez Jr. is not exactly considered an top pound for pound fighter and he beat Andy Lee pretty easily).

This was after Andy Lee spent the previous 2-3 years fighting bar tenders and security guards to build confidence and recover from a loss to Brian Vera.

(Lee did beat Vera in a rematch — but Vera is not exactly a top pound for pound fighter).

Calling Andy Lee a top fighter or a top contender — I mean that is silly. Andy Lee is an experienced fighter with an Olympic background who has fought guys like Chavez. He was too much for Jackson.

But Andy Lee is not a top contender.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:28 pm 


badger

ko of the year.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:24 pm 


badger

no such thing as a lucky punch brit. when you grow up brit get into the ring.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:22 pm 


badger

Jackson was in over his head with a veteran contender. lighten up girls.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:20 pm 


badger

great stoppage by top contender Lee.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:20 pm 


Love-the-Sport

This was a terrible fight in terms of development and the overall state of boxing.

Jackson looked great.

Jackson looked like he had good power in both in hands.

Jackson scored an early knockdown and was winning.

But Jackson was not ready for this guy … Andy Lee has had ups and downs in his career but he is a former Olympian with Kronk gym training and several fights at the elite level.

This was a terrible decision to put Jackson in the ring with Andy Lee.

I realize that this all about money and the US market can’t support these fighters through 25-30 development fights — but this was a mistake. The boxing world should start shipping these young fighters to Macau and fight bar tenders to develop their skills and slowly build up professional fight experience — build up rounds.

It was a waste of a great young talent. Anybody who saw Julian Jackson and then saw this younger version could see there is something potentially special here — only to have it wasted by a grizzled veteran (Andy Lee) who truth be told is not going anywhere with his lousy career.

What a waste.

Posted June 8, 2014 8:07 pm 


More Brit Hype

No better feeling like getting a lucky punch in, when you are getting your a$$ kicked. Andy ‘Lucky Punch’ Lee should be his name.

Posted June 8, 2014 7:37 pm 


killa kallo

This is a learning expirience for jackson. His dad julian jackson crushed terry norris in two rounds in the same fashion. Norris came right back and destroyd mugabi on his way to a hall of fame carreer. John is just a kid. He needs to get his confidence back and reach his destiny

Posted June 8, 2014 6:55 pm 


Rustybucket

Turbo-H@mster
Totally agree.

Also, Jackson is not a journeyman.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:39 pm 


killa kallo

My boi john jackson was dominating this tomato can. Got careless and paid the price. He was on his way to putting lee to sleep. Johns got a bright future. Anybody can get caught. Its the hurt business. Lucky punch

Posted June 8, 2014 6:24 pm 


Tomato Can

That was a greak KO by Lee. The Hawk Jr. found out the hard way that you have to respect your opponent at all times.

Posted June 8, 2014 6:16 pm 


Leonard

First time ere – you said it for me!

Fantasy version of the fight. Rewriting history.
Scores shudda been 40-35 too.
This was vintage andy Lee – stiff as a board, head up in the air, getting bulled around, trapped in corners, trapped on the ropes….
He did not walk Jackson ont that shot – Jackson walked himself onto it. If Andy was in there with an opponent with a bit more savvy he would have lost that fight.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:50 pm 


son of eire

brutal ko from andy Lee, Looking at the 154lbs division there seems to be a few belts Lee could go for ignoring the obvious PBF. Could also get a shot at 160lbs.

A lot of negativity on Andy considering only lost to Vera which was avenged and lost to a Light heavyweight in JCC jr who was probably juiced up. Andys one punch ko ability could spark out any fighter from 154-160

Posted June 8, 2014 5:50 pm 


First time ere

Did the author actually watch this fight. While Lee won via a great shot he was for large chunks of change getting take to school by a journeyman.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:28 pm 


Turb0-H@mster…

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing.

It isn`t like he was aiming at the ref and hit Jackson.

They train their entire life to execute under this type of pressure, and to fight till the end.

He walked the guy onto a lovely little hook when he got too greedy, and that is why boxing is beautiful, intriguing, sometimes little sickening.

It was an exhibition in sucking it up, and believing till the last, but also a warning, to Lee as well as Jackson, since a degree of Lee’s confidence now might be misplaced if he needs to rely on errors like that to win.

Lee is a great guy, but I don`t think he can ever be more than a paper champion. I hope that he can achieve that then retire.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:19 pm 


Turb0-H@mster…

There is no such thing as a lucky punch in boxing.

It isn`t like he was aiming at the ref and hit Jackson.

They train their entire life to execute under this type of pressure, and to fight till the end.

He walked the guy onto a lovely little hook when he got too greedy, and that is why boxing is beautiful, intriguing, sometimes little sickening.

It was an exhibition in sucking it up, and believing till the last, but also a warning, to Lee as well as Jackson, since a degree of Lee’s confidence now might be misplaced if he needs to rely on errors like that to win.

Lee is a great guy, but I don`t think he can ever be more than a paper champion. I hope that he can achieve that then retire.

Posted June 8, 2014 5:17 pm 


gary

that lucky punch as you call it, correct me if im wrong did more than equalize the outcome of the fight, it defined it!

Posted June 8, 2014 4:42 pm 


jonny

Lee would be a 10 to 1 underdog against any champ from 154 to 160. Jackson isn’t really that good and he was dominating Lee until the lucky punch saved the day for Lee.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:39 pm 


eric

If Andy can’t do it now I can’t see him ever staying at the top let alone getting to the top.

It would be nice to see lee at least win a important title for not only himself but steward.

Posted June 8, 2014 4:37 pm 



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