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TARK

Golovkin said that he would fight Floyd at 154 anytime… He said he eventually he would move up to challenge at 168 and maybe even 175 — after he unified at 160.

That isn’t calling everybody out… That’s saying what your future plans are.

Posted June 15, 2014 2:18 am 


Anonymous

`You are one of the most unstable idiots I’ve seen on this website.’

hidalgo is right.

Posted June 12, 2014 6:42 pm 


Anonymous

squared stop embarrassing yourself.

Posted June 12, 2014 1:10 pm 


Joseph Herron

Thanks for clarifying that, Tomato Can…I was a professional musician at that time…time flies indeed!! :-(

Posted June 12, 2014 1:01 am 


Tomato Can

1992, during the LA riots. Man time flies….. And Tumbo props to you on that last post. There’s lots of multi posting on these threads. It’s more worse now than ever, IMO.

Posted June 12, 2014 12:55 am 


Joseph Herron

Are you sure, Tumbo? Didn’t he say that after the cops were convicted? I remember that trial ending in 93? Who knows…LOL

Posted June 12, 2014 12:40 am 


te tumbo

correction: “Can’t we all just get along?” – Rodney King, 1992.

Posted June 12, 2014 12:32 am 


te tumbo

“I see. So it’s not possible that it was someone else posing as me who said he posted under another nick?” HIDALGo, you got a point. it could’ve definitely been an actual multi-posting troll. we get a lot of them around here. including those that engage in those racist pissing-matches with themselves. I stand corrected. now please wipe the boo-boo-lipped expression off of your face, which just might trigger my “hateful heart” . . . (lol).

Posted June 12, 2014 12:30 am 


Joseph Herron

“Can’t we all just get along?” – Rodney King, 1993

Posted June 11, 2014 9:58 pm 


DaTruth Hurts

Just wait until Cuban Lara Biatch Slaps Canelo around the Ring from post to post like Mayweather did to see all the excuses the resident Chihuahuas like Tumbo will make for why Lara was able to do that to Canelo… LOL it’ll be funny

Posted June 11, 2014 10:26 am 


DaTruth Hurts

Most if not all of the Sore Loser Rants on these Boards are not from Argentinians.. they’re from Sore Losing Chihuahuas like te tumbo, who prayed to their Santa Muerte Saint for Sergio to Beat the Puerto Rican Super Star Cotto… Because it drives them insane when a Puerto Rican gets such Attention and Accolades.. LOL fkers never change..

Posted June 11, 2014 10:25 am 


te tumbo

i was on the thread Sqaured Circle is talking about and Yes “HidalgO” busted himself multiposting. i even piped-in to express disappointment. how often and with how many handles? that’s a mystery but it must be a lot to overcompensate with the “NO, I don’t. Ever” because you did at least once. it was so flagrant, “HidalgO” himself pointed it out.

Posted June 11, 2014 2:56 am 


Anonymous

LMAO

Squared your posts are ridiculous.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:44 am 


Tomato Can

Cool, thanks for the info.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:31 pm 


Joseph Herron

Did interview with Bob Arum about Algieri/Provodnikov…Bobbo seems to think that it’s going to be a much more competitive fight than most believe…we’ll see.

He also said that the winner becomes the front runner for Manny Pacquiao in November if JMM outbids himself.

Which is looking like it might very well happen.

Article will be out tomorrow morning on the Saga

Posted June 10, 2014 8:55 pm 


Joseph Herron

We’ll speak to his Chris’ publicist to kick things off this evening…Bernie Bahrmasel…followed by trainer Joel Diaz, Heavyweight David Rodriguez, and the incomparable Abel Sanchez!!

Posted June 10, 2014 8:30 pm 


Tomato Can

Interesting… Hey how about the Provodnikov fight this coming weekend? Anyone know what the odds are? I’m thinking Provo may have problems in this one. Ultimately he could win by knockout, but I still think he’s susceptible to getting out boxed.

Posted June 10, 2014 6:18 pm 


Anonymous

Hidalgo that says it all.

”And I’m quite sure it’s no coincidence that you chose to do it on “The Pugilist KOrner” board.’

Posted June 10, 2014 6:06 pm 


Anonymous

Squared and Hidalgo

stop sucking up to Herron.

Posted June 10, 2014 5:36 pm 


Anonymous

”credibility and ultimately their reputations on ESB”

”you don’t care to be allies”

THIS IS JUST A BOXING FORUM FOR GODS SAKE!!!!

GET A LIFE!!!!!

Posted June 10, 2014 4:48 pm 


SLIM

@Tomato Can…GGG is tough no doubt. But if you really think about it, who has he fought?? NOBODY…Have a nice day.

Posted June 10, 2014 4:20 am 


Argy Bargy

Actually, Redmondo, boxing is a sport. The people running it make it a business. Don’t get your logic all tied up like your pubice. LOL.

Posted June 10, 2014 3:25 am 


Joseph Herron

LOL…I’m sorry for letting everyone down this Saturday night…I was really looking forward to calling the fight as well. I really missed out on calling a dramatic one.

Thank you for the kind words, Hidalgo…all is well in the Herron household…at least now it is.

My apologies once again…I will make up for it on July 12th…guaranteed!!

Posted June 9, 2014 9:25 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tomato Can: “I’ll keep that in mind moving forward. I don’t see it happening, but we’ll see.”

It’s funny how that could happen, right? Especially after most were suggesting retirement after losing to Austin Trout. But he’s currently the third or fourth biggest commodity in boxing either tied or slightly ahead of Canelo.

If he should win a potential meeting with Canelo either in December of this year, or April or May of 2015, he would gain a huge push in popularity and stature within the boxing community.

At 33 years of age, and a renewed vigor for the sport since moving to the wildcard gym, he could have many more years left in boxing…long enough to take over after Mayweather and Pacquiao retire.

Posted June 9, 2014 9:10 pm 


Tomato Can

“He has the potential of becoming the biggest star in boxing once Mayweather and Pacquiao are gone.” I’ll keep that in mind moving forward. I don’t see it happening, but we’ll see.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:25 pm 


Joseph Herron

uh-oh: “Supreme Court is back.”

My word!! He’s a delusional thread killer…I have no idea why Sr Edmond or Supreme Court thinks he actually knows boxing…who ever gave him that idea should be drawn and quartered!! LOL

Just jiving…everyone on this comment board should be able to enjoy posting their personal thoughts about the sport…but beware the backlash!! LOL

Posted June 9, 2014 8:22 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tomato Can: “As far as Cotto fighting him (Triple G), not in a million years. lol..”

If HBO wants that fight, and are willing to guarantee the kind of money that Cotto is looking for, then you bet that fight would be made.

If you ask Bob Arum who his favorite fighter is, he won’t say Manny Pacquiao. He’ll tell you it’s Miguel Cotto. Why?

Miguel never refuses anyone who Top Rank or HBO puts in front of him.

If the money and demand is there, that fight certainly would happen.

But my guess is that HBO and everyone involved can make a lot more money on a 33 year old Miguel Cotto with Pacquio and Mayweather on their way out. My guess is that HBO and Top Rank really start to take care of the Puerto Rican legend from this point forward and make very smart, strategic moves for the remainder of his career.

He has the potential of becoming the biggest star in boxing once Mayweather and Pacquiao are gone.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:18 pm 


uh-oh

Supreme Court is back. Bunch of idiots?

TARK, Squared and BEARS? Lol

Posted June 9, 2014 8:00 pm 


Tomato Can

Hello Joseph, everything is well on my end. I hope the same or better for you. I agree, it’s business first and foremost. GGG is in a tuff spot, be he has the tools the make the best of it. He’s good enough where he’s not in ring wars, so all he has to do is keep winning and things will begin to open up for him. As far as Cotto fighting him, not in a million years. lol..

Posted June 9, 2014 7:40 pm 


Joseph Herron

What’s up, TC…hope you’re well this evening!!

Cotto, HBO, and Top Rank made a very smart business decision in electing to face Sergio Martinez this past Saturday night…more money, less risk, huge potential gains.

Against Triple G…lesser recognized Middleweight stature, more risk, less money…no brainer.

Ducking is a fan driven concept that really doesn’t exist within the business of boxing. It either makes sense or it doesn’t. If the demand is there, the money will be as well. If there is a genuine demand for Cotto to face Triple G after Golovkin’s fight with Geale on July 26th, it will make Cotto and Top Rank’s decision very interesting.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:33 pm 


Tomato Can

GGG, is the best at 160. He should be the undisputed MW champion. I’m not sure how 160 pounders are avoiding him, but 147 and 154 pounders can’t be called out for that when they don’t even compete at 160. Was Cotto ducking GGG when he intelligently sought out Martinez? I won’t call it that, but one could.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:15 pm 


Joseph Herron

SREDMOND: “Crying Queen/LyingKing, every boxer wants a Floyd Mayweather paycheck MOST don’t deserve one and GGG and Lara fall under that heading”

Keep living in dream land, brother.

The Mayweather sweepstakes is a myth…how much did Maidana make for his efforts against Floyd Jr on May 3rd? 1.5 million

Fighters will make that kind of coin on HBO…subscriber HBO on a regular basis.

And if fans are under the guise that it’s the exposure that the fighters benefit from, how is it working out for Robert Guerrero?

It’s the platform that really makes the difference…at this time, it’s more beneficial for a fighter’s future to merely appear on HBO regularly than to appear as Floyd’s B-side on a lesser network with lower subscription numbers.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:13 pm 


Joseph Herron

Triple G won’t be able to substantiate claims either way as long as the best at 160 and 154 continue to label the WBA Middleweight champion as “too much risk for the reward”.

How is Gennady expected to prove his ridiculous sounding detractors wrong if no one is willing to step in the ring with this guy?

Top Rank and HBO guaranteed Chavez Jr. $12 million for two fights with triple G, and he turned it down

The elite level fighters and big money commodities in the sport of boxing have a responsibility to give the up and coming fighters opportunities to compete for the proverbial “brass ring”…if the public demands it.

If there is no public demand, who cares. There was a huge demand for the Chavez/Triple G fight, and Junior turned it down.

If Golovkin stops Daniel Geale on July 26th, are any of Golovkin’s naysayers going to be content?

You can’t blame Golovkin for not receiving opportunities to prove his mettle.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:04 pm 


Tomato Can

The thing is there are a lot of fans that want to see GGG fight 154 and 147 pounders at 154. These fans need to talk GGG into fighting at 154. There’s a lot more talent at 154 than 160.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:30 pm 


Floyd Fan

WHO IS GGG????? LMAO

SREDMOND

And YES, GGG is a relative NOBODY when discussed alongside Mayweather, Cotto or even Canelo who are all guys that have done PPV’s and were Lineals in their respective weight classes (Mayweather beat both guys in the last 24 months) Fact is Golovkins record is PADDED at this point and he will have to substantiate the claims of him being the most dangerous man in boxing against some World Class foes at 160 or above, other than that he will be remembered as the MW version of Deontay Wilder..

Posted June 9, 2014 3:51 pm 


Floyd Fan

I TOTALLY AGREE BROs

Supreme Court

Crying Queen, it’s nice that you like to pretend to have some semblance of intelligence, but your little pea sized brain just doesn’t allow it! HAHAHAHAHAHA

It’s nice to see the same bunch of idiots back at it again hyping up GGG just like they hyped up Canelo saying he would beat Mayweather.. Announcement to all of those dreaming GGG gonna be the guy to hand Floyd his first loss it’s NOT gonna happen!! Floyd’s NOT gonna fight GGG who is a MW that’s just stupid especially given Golovkin being unknown to hardcore fans..

( “There are no beautiful women on ESB” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. You fool.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA )

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SREDMOND

Crying Queen/LyingKing, every boxer wants a Floyd Mayweather paycheck MOST don’t deserve one and GGG and Lara fall under that heading… Golovkin is NOT a Jr MW and he has NEVER proved he can operate at that weight for a single day as a pro… Guys like YOU, Tark and Bears love to use “Weight” as a “get out of jail free card” trying to salvage a dudes rep ie “he was dead” “someone made him come down” your tactics and excuses are VERY transparent.. Golovkin has compiled a statistical record that impresses as long as you TOTALLY ignore quality of competition, guys like you won’t extend a 5 weight, 4 lineal Championship fighter like Mayweather credit for beating the Canelo, Cotto’s Maidanas, Marquez’s and Mosleys of the World but you expect people to get excited about GGG beating Rosado, Ouman, Ishida and that nobody in Morocco? Even Freddy Roach said he had never seen him fight nor really knew his competitors (could be a knock or dismissal) whatever the case GGG brings nothing to the table that makes him someone Floyd Mayweather should leap 2 weight classes to fight at the age of 37…Tell Ya boy to build his name at 160 or 168…

Posted June 9, 2014 1:55 pm

Posted June 9, 2014 3:47 pm 


KOrnerman

Cotto gave the cyclist a boxing lesson.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:53 pm 


SREDMOND

LyingKing, as for Freddy I respect him as a trainer and a guy who during a fight will tell it how it is… That said I don’t think he remade Cotto over the course of 2 fights with as much time as Cotto has at the top of the sport… Cotto has switched trainers ALOT so did Oscar and they will make all kinds of claims at the end of the day show me Cotto on a 7 fight win streak against top comp, avoiding heavy punishment etc and I will rethink this position.. I am a Cotto fan and could not be happier I was DEAD wrong about Maravilla whipping his azz but he is still the same guy in my eyes on Sat he was in the ZONE…

Posted June 9, 2014 2:16 pm 


SREDMOND

And YES, GGG is a relative NOBODY when discussed alongside Mayweather, Cotto or even Canelo who are all guys that have done PPV’s and were Lineals in their respective weight classes (Mayweather beat both guys in the last 24 months) Fact is Golovkins record is PADDED at this point and he will have to substantiate the claims of him being the most dangerous man in boxing against some World Class foes at 160 or above, other than that he will be remembered as the MW version of Deontay Wilder..

Posted June 9, 2014 1:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Crying Queen/LyingKing, every boxer wants a Floyd Mayweather paycheck MOST don’t deserve one and GGG and Lara fall under that heading… Golovkin is NOT a Jr MW and he has NEVER proved he can operate at that weight for a single day as a pro… Guys like YOU, Tark and Bears love to use “Weight” as a “get out of jail free card” trying to salvage a dudes rep ie “he was dead” “someone made him come down” your tactics and excuses are VERY transparent.. Golovkin has compiled a statistical record that impresses as long as you TOTALLY ignore quality of competition, guys like you won’t extend a 5 weight, 4 lineal Championship fighter like Mayweather credit for beating the Canelo, Cotto’s Maidanas, Marquez’s and Mosleys of the World but you expect people to get excited about GGG beating Rosado, Ouman, Ishida and that nobody in Morocco? Even Freddy Roach said he had never seen him fight nor really knew his competitors (could be a knock or dismissal) whatever the case GGG brings nothing to the table that makes him someone Floyd Mayweather should leap 2 weight classes to fight at the age of 37…Tell Ya boy to build his name at 160 or 168…

Posted June 9, 2014 1:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Correction “Bulky as the WW’s he fights”

Posted June 9, 2014 1:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is not even as bulky as the MW’s he fights, Maidana had 18 pounds on him, Ortiz 14, Canelo 16 pounds at Jr MW… Mayweather is usually 148 pounds 30 days out from the fight and the suggestion that he is big enough for the MW division is ridiculous Mayweather began at 130 and he is VERY maxed out at WW even though his talent lets him fight bigger guys at 154 and usually at 147 as of late… You guys can type about this SILLY, UNSELLABLE bout till your fingers turn to a putrid dust but Golovkin is gonna have to prove his point against MW’s or SMW’s or he can sit around complaining till he is an OLD man with a RANCID resume…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:59 pm 


SREDMOND

First of all Cotto and Mayweather fought at 154 pounds and NO ONE knows if GGG can make 154 except GGG “experts cannot dictate that” anymore than people knew how much Cotto would weigh on the scales… Cotto basically was a Jr MW who fought at MW he was 155 which is different than fighting a 160 pounder when you began at 130… GGG should show us all how easily he makes 154 and go fight someone there if he is SOO desperate for a Mayweather shot??? You guys would be SO quick to say he was drained shedding 6 pounds its not even funny so whats REALLY the point? Golovkin was DEEP in contract talks to fight Chavez at 168 pounds so the idea that he is this tiny MW fighter is just WEAK and unsupportable, the real thrust is to somehow force Floyd Mayweather to fight a nobody at MW, Golovkin does NOT even have the Ring Belt nor Lineal at MW that something that Cotto has and its likely Cotto is gonna utilize that hardware to get himself a nice payday against Floyd or Canelo at 154, GGG is gonna have to fight his way to to top and stop looking for WW’s to squeeze down and fight…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:52 pm 


Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

WHAT!?!: It’s well documented that Team Canelo has been badly wanting a fight with Cotto for close to two years — since after Canelo beat Mosely and before he fought Josesito Lopez. There are interviews with ODLH and other boxing insiders all over YouTube that provide evidence to support this.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Da Truth, Cotto was NOT “hobbled” against Mayweather, Pac or Trout he LOST…All cred to him for getting his revenge against a banged up Margo but that does not expunge his record of his losses… The man is 33 with 43 bouts he is who he is and I wish him all the best, that said he has been CLEARLY bested on at least 3 occasions with no intelligent controversy…I personally don’t know what Margo did or did not do against Miguel but I do know that Margo was a freight train that night who was not gonna be stopped..

Posted June 9, 2014 12:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Off Topic, Tark is definitely a flip flopper and his arguments are getting more and more bizarre… He will argue that “who a guy fights does not matter he looks at them technically” then he will say “Floyd has not fought anyone who is a good boxer” then he will say that Cotto and Canelo are GREAT “but then give Mayweather no cred for beating them” he will say that in order to earn his respect Mayweather has to defeat “Shawn Porter, Thurman and Brook because they are Great boxers” I will then ask HOW did they become Great? and if they are then why were you not discussing them in this manner 6 months ago? He felt Canelo was gonna handle Floyd, when Canelo loses he says Alvarez was dead on the scales or too young MEANWHILE the day before he liked Canelos chances…. He says GGG does not have to go to SMW, even though GGG was about to ink a deal with Chavez, he claims GGG is REALLY a 154 pounder when GGG has NEVER fought at 154 as a pro, and AGAIN he was gonna fight Chavez at 168… Tark calls Floyd Mayweather “The Goat” said he knew that from 10 fights in THEN he says “he has not fought a great boxer” all Floyds career he has just needed to fight Shawn Porter, Thurman, Brook or Lara according to this nutcase…

Posted June 9, 2014 12:19 pm 


DaTruth

The Boxing world knows damn well that it took a cheatin Chihuahua with Loaded Cement Wraps to finally beat Cotto… but as we saw in the rematch where Cotto retired margaCheato, it’s going to be a tough night for a Cotto opponent when its a fair fight and Cotto is not hobbled.

Posted June 9, 2014 12:19 pm 


off topic

SREDMOND…………. it was obviously H@mster

SREDMOND

This isn`t the FIRST time TARK has displayed tendencies towards the untowards. We all know he is a decrepit flip flopper Monday morning quarterback but it is becoming OBVIOUS that he also strains at the leash of his inner racist beast…..Holla

Posted June 8, 2014 3:43 am

Posted June 9, 2014 12:04 pm 


AL

I am on different sites besides this all you clowns just stay on this site that is why you didnt know these facts

1. Freddy admitted Manny blew the first fight
2. Freddy Roach said it would hurt BOTH LEGACIES
3. FReddy said Bob would like for Manny and Floyd to be the last fight
4. Freddy asked Ariza what he was giving Manny
5. Ariza said he was there and Arum was blocking the fight!!

Another Fact is alot of you Manny fans never respected Ali, Leonard you think of Black people as Ni33ers and use the name to lie as if you know about boxing. Black people dont fight for their “Race”. We dont live in racist 3rd world conditions, Only someone that is not accustomed to the world would think boxing is about RACE and Country.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:51 am 


ozy

floyd will fight pac !!!!!

Posted June 9, 2014 11:48 am 


SREDMOND

Hidalgo, its best to ignore PIGS and LOSERS who steal screen names and try an post… Those who know the stances, tone and opinions of regular posters easily see thru such ruses… This is the last defense of those who cannot debate or defend their points pay such lowlifes no mind.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:27 am 


REM

Cotto wont be able to dominate negotiations with Floyd but its Cotto thats in possession of the prestigious lineal mw tittle. Cottos gonna have alot to say about purse split, venue and weight. Not only that but Showtime is desperate to actually make a profit on Floyd justifiable to the contract they gave him. Bottom line is Floyd wont dominate negotiations either.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:25 am 


SREDMOND

Pugfan if they did it at MSG or the Barclays center which is near my apartment…(Floyd vs Cotto II) I would be there ASAP camped out in front of the venue.. Golovkin is looking to make a name which is understandable but he has NOT fought anyone, and he has to wait his turn for elites who are not even native to 160… He was about to fight Chavez Jr who is not a player at 168 and was soundly defeated by Sergio at 160, because like all boxers GGG wants bigger paydays.. Mayweather and Cotto are not fighting for SMALL $$$$ and after the paycheck he got for Delvin Rodriguez I am sure Miguel does not want to endure training camps and abuse for 2-3 mill when he can make 12-15 mill facing Mayweather or Canelo (basing that on the 10 mill offer from GBP prior to Cotto looking like a World Beater and grabbing the lineal MW Championship)

Posted June 9, 2014 11:18 am 


Pugfan

I can not argue about that. you are correct. From a fans point of view , I personally would rather see Cotto have a rematch with Floyd , or fight Alvarez then having a fight with GGG. IF Cotto were to fight Alvarez or have a rematch with Floyd in MSG I would seriously consider buying a ticket and making the trip to NYC. GGG would be a harder sale for me , because I agree with some of the fans about his level of comp.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:10 am 


SREDMOND

Pugfan, he can “call shots” against Andy Lee, GGG, or some other less popular 154 pound fighters… That said against the MONEY players at 154 (Mayweather and Canelo) Cotto is gonna have to negotiate (more leverage with Saul than Floyd) FACT is that Mayweather already beat Cotto and beating Martinez does not erase that fact..

Posted June 9, 2014 11:04 am 


SREDMOND

Pugfan, as far as “calling the shots” Cotto explained to Sergio how the hierarchy works in boxing ie A side and B side, Cotto got favorable terms last time he faced FMJ ie the bout was at 154 etc… What more would Cotto need? Mayweather is the bigger star and that’s not gonna change, if Cotto wants a 9 figure payday he has 2 guys that can produce that, Canelo and Floyd.. Despite spanking Martinez Miguel is the B side opponent and would be taking the lower purse, only way that possibly changes is Floyd taking a bad loss to someone..

Posted June 9, 2014 11:02 am 


Pugfan

Cotto looks like a genius right now for choosing to fight Sergio ,rather then Canelo. Cotto has many options now. he can call his own shots.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:01 am 


Pugfan

I happen to disagree with a buddy of mine , who still thinks Maidana should have been given the nod over Floyd.

Posted June 9, 2014 10:55 am 


SREDMOND

There are guys saying that Canelo would “smash Cotto” but these SAME guys don’t wanna give the smaller Mayweather an ounce of credit for besting Cotto and Canelo at 154??? Mayweather does NOT bring a big punch to the ring, he is there for 36 minutes and NONE of these guys who have stopped close to 100 men can get him off his feet…! Maidana, Canelo and Cotto ALL have 30 or more KO’s as professionals and have knocked down a slew of guys yet each man facing Floyd Mayweather who was 35 or older could NOT produce any fireworks absent a bloody nose from Cotto and a cut from an accidental Maidana headbutt… AGAIN detractors will say “wrong trainer” “wrong day of the week” “depression” ect… Floyd fought Cotto when he had the spectre of JAIL hanging over his head, he spotted Maidana almost 20 pounds and 7 years, spotted Canelo 13 years and 16 pounds yet in ALL contests against Big Punchers he prevailed and did not drop a single card… GREATEST fighter in boxing today and one of the best of ALL TIME…

Posted June 9, 2014 10:55 am 


Pugfan

Based on their last 2 performances , if Mayweather and Cotto were to rematch it may not be Floyd calling all the shots this time?

Posted June 9, 2014 10:51 am 


SREDMOND

Tinkerbell boxing is a BUSINESS and the reality is that it always has been and always will be.. Back in the day getting a shot at the HW Championship meant something you could not just show up or pickup a microphone and start bleeting..If you lost you went to the BACK of the line.. NOW every new fighter you can imagine wants a crack at the BEST fighter on the planet (Floyd Mayweather) and acts like they have a REAL case… Contrary to popular belief Mayweather FOUGHT his way to the top, he was B side against Oscar, he won and then he took over same is true for Pacquiao… Suddenly you have upstart fighters like Golovkin (more his fans) acting like he is owed something when the man has been fighting mostly SCRUBS… Cotto fought his way to the top and earned his fanbase, asking proven guys in their mid to late 30′s to forgoe MAJOR paydays to fight a media construct who brings little cache to the table makes no sense… Reality is that I don’t see Cotto campaigning at MW he simply is not physically suited to the division despite sending Martinez into retirement…

Posted June 9, 2014 10:21 am 


Tinker bell

I thought boxing worked by fighting the best anytime anywhere. Irrespective of money or politics. Because you are not scared.

Posted June 9, 2014 10:04 am 


Supreme Court

Crying Queen, it’s nice that you like to pretend to have some semblance of intelligence, but your little pea sized brain just doesn’t allow it! HAHAHAHAHAHA

It’s nice to see the same bunch of idiots back at it again hyping up GGG just like they hyped up Canelo saying he would beat Mayweather.. Announcement to all of those dreaming GGG gonna be the guy to hand Floyd his first loss it’s NOT gonna happen!! Floyd’s NOT gonna fight GGG who is a MW that’s just stupid especially given Golovkin being unknown to hardcore fans..

( “There are no beautiful women on ESB” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.. You fool.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA )

Posted June 9, 2014 10:02 am 


SREDMOND

Golovkin is NOT a 154 pounder and Lara has NOT been calling Floyd out.. Reality is that everybody wants to share the ring with Floyd for the payday that comes with it so these relative nobodies (GGG and Lara) can join a LONG line of guys who are worshiping at the FMJ alter.. Reality is that Floyd Mayweather ALREADY defeated the guy who is now Lineal MW Champion, he also beat the guy who was Lineal 154 pound Champion… Mayweather has ONCE again been proved GREATEST in the World because 2 of his opponents scored their BIGGEST career wins against Elite opponents AFTER Mayweather took very clear UD’s off of them (Marquez and Cotto)… Guys will say “Cotto needed Freddy, or Marquez needed Angel Heredia) SORRY !!!! boxing does not work like that especially with a couple of veteran boxers who already had won Championships in multiple divisions when Floyd introduced them to the upper level… Cotto is NOT a different boxer, he was just in the ring with a different opponent than Floyd Mayweather same for Marquez who flatblasted Manny Pacquiao…

Posted June 9, 2014 9:46 am 


mexican guy

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing) i agree with that!!

Don’t you think that FMJ needs to defend those 154lbs titles vs. the very best or vacate??? Lara and 3G have been calling him out and begging for a shot.

Posted June 9, 2014 9:32 am 


mexican guy

Floyd should fight 3G next!!!

Posted June 9, 2014 9:31 am 


BUSTAJAY

I have been around boxing for over 30 yrs and said all over this site that Cotto was going down in less than 9.

I am not retarded…..LOL

Cotto pulled off a hell of a fight and (did not see fight) it sounded like he was in A level condition.
Who knew?
I had expected Cotto to retire after this fight so I have egg all over my face.

Cotto and Canelo would easily sell over 1.3 million in PPV.

Floyd and Manny are ducking each other and we continue to blame one of the two when it is both fighters IMO.

Posted June 9, 2014 9:07 am 


SREDMOND

Cotto wants to stay in PPV worthy fights and max out how earnings, the guy has fought everybody and if you can’t help him do a strong PPV why does he need you? Martinez made peanuts compared to him on the guarantee 1.5 mill to 7mill for Cotto… Golovkin would be a C side opponent he brings no fan base worth noting and thus Canelo or Floyd are more attractive options.. Who said Cotto is gonna keep fighting at MW? He was a VERY small 155 at weigh in, I’m sure that he and Chavez Jr could do a monster PPV but how would Cotto look in the ring with JR who is huge? Likely course of action for Cotto like Roy Jones after HW is to get back to 154 where 2 huge contests remain for him assuming Canelo wins..

Posted June 9, 2014 9:00 am 


WHAT!?!

SC – Just wondering why you are so adamant that Canelo would beat up Cotto so easily? Is this just a Mex – PR rivalry issue for you? Does the “Cotto ducking Canelo for 2 years” claim have any factual credence? I can’t say I’ve heard Canelo ever call out Cotto and definitely not continually challenge Cotto to embarrass him into a fight.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:09 am 


888

Squared-Circle the ultimate ESB warrior. Don’t mess with him, his keyboard is lethal.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:36 am 


Anonymous

ion LMAO!!!! youre the esb idiot

”A word to the wise: choose your allies and your battles very carefully.”

Posted June 9, 2014 4:18 am 


Anonymous

lion LMAO!!!! youre the esb idiot

A word to the wise: choose your allies and your battles very carefully.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:17 am 


Auzbox

Cotto won’t be fighting floyd. Floyd fights in September and cotto is in December I hardly think floyd will change his dates for his own family let alone a fight. He needs to call all of the shots and cotto fights on HBO not showtime.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:01 am 


hookoffthejab

Besides, if everyone was so certain that Martinez’s knees were shot as Ronnie claims they were, how come every middleweight around wasn’t clamoring to fight Martinez?
Answer: Only Freddie Roach and Miguel Cotto were willing to take the risk.

I was one who had written off Cotto at anything 154 and over …. And taking on Sergio over Canelo IMO at the time was a bigger risk ..After seeing Sauls inept performance against Junior ….I can see Sergio wanting revenge or at least going out on his own terms ……
Roach and his team did a great job in giving Cotto every chance to not only win ……But to do it in such winning style …

Posted June 9, 2014 3:40 am 


palisa

once again where are the Martinez fans, Martinez, is going to do this, that, brake, humiliate, crush, retire, ect… donde estan los de la palisa?

Posted June 9, 2014 3:18 am 


PEEJ

Now I’m a stupid idiot using my screen name.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:06 am 


PEEJ

Money wise GGG is where the fight is at.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:04 am 


PEEJ

Besides, out of GGG, Canelo and Cotto, it’s Cotto who has the darker skin and you know I always bet on black.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:02 am 


Tomato Can

GGG deserves a shot at one of these little guys, but anyone weighing in at 155 isn’t going to beat him. No way will those type guys going to be able to absorb the punishment GGG will put on them. And I highly doubt GGG will be dropping down to 154 when he’s talking about fighting at 168.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:01 am 


Tinker bell

Anything can happen in boxing, my father tonker bell would remind me often. Is it therefore possible that after the next fights we are left with Lara and geale still standing before Cotto? That would be a big surprise.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:59 am 


REM

Its pretty clear Floyd is the best option for Cotto. Cotto can always fight Canelo. I like Cotto in both fights but win or lose I guarantee they will be some memorable battles. Without a doubt Martinez didnt have his legs under him but Cotto looked stronger without losing speed. His added strength with his skill is gonna be a problem.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:58 am 


PEEJ

Now we have a stupid idiot using my screen name.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:58 am 


PEEJ

Well you know how I feel about the other titles. lol. All them titles were unified at one point in time but they got stripped so I don’t care about them. I agree if fighting GGG but not for unified titles. I just know Canelo brings in much more money than GGG.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:57 am 


PEEJ

Floyd has been ducking Pac. And GGG is not the one that called out everybody from 154 to 168. Both Ward and Hopkins said they would not fight him and then he backed off and said he is not gonna stay at 160 and clean out the division as he should and then he did not try to make a fight with Chavez at 168.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:57 am 


PEEJ

Money wise Canelo is where the fight is at.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:53 am 


PEEJ

I was more speaking about Cotto fighting Canelo at 160. But other than that you are right about he should fight GGG. GGG is the one that definitely deserves a shot at something.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:53 am 


PEEJ

Floyd hasn’t been ducking Pac. And GGG is the one that called out everybody from 154 to 168. Both Ward and Hopkins said they would fight him and then he backed off and said he is gonna stay at 160 and clean out the division as he should and then he tried to make a fight with Chavez at 168.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:48 am 


TARK

Hidalgo.., If people fight their most logical opponents nobody has a problem with that.. Floyd has been ducking Pacquiao for years and you know it.

Martinez and Quillin ducked Golovkin for years. Golovkin doesn’t have to go to super middleweight to fight Ward before he unifies at 160.. That makes no sense.. There are plenty of people for Golovkin to fight at 160 and there nobody for Ward to fight at 168 who has any chance.. So why wouldn’t Ward go to 175 to fight Kovalev???

Ward is closer to light heavyweight than Golovkin is to 168.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:43 am 


Tomato Can

Hidalgo, exactly… That has always been the case.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:40 am 


PEEJ

I am taking Canelo by late stoppage or decision.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:39 am 


PEEJ

I pointed that out in another thread and Tark tried to tell me I didn’t know what I was talking about. Garcia said he was not chasing Floyd. But of course I am wrong and a Floyd lover. I think Cotto can fight a big money fight and if he wins either retire or fight GGG and then retire win, lose or draw. At least that is my opinion. But I agree 100 with what you said.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:38 am 


Tomato Can

Lara better beat Alvarez or he’s gonna have a hard time getting big fights. He has to win this fight. On the other hand canelo can lose and still get a few more good fights.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:37 am 


TARK

Floyd Mayweather can do any fight he wants.. He’s like Leonard or Ali were in that regard at one time. He has wide leeway.

Anybody is going to work with Floyd because he’s money in the bank. Especially if Floyd wanted to fight Pacquiao. Any promoter would be an idiot if they didn’t want to do that fight.

If Lara beats Canelo by a clear UD, like he did Austin Trout, there’s going to be a lot of questions if Floyd doesn’t want to face him.. If Porter beats Brook or Thurman, you’d have to wonder if Floyd doesn’t face him.. Shawn is a world champ at 147 like Floyd is, he beat Alexander who beat Maidana … and he smashed Paulie who fought a SD with Broner.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:33 am 


Tomato Can

The 5 best at the eclipse of this era, IMO are: Mayweather; Pacquiao; Marquez; W. Klitschko and Cotto. Give them props now boys, cause once they’re gone no amount if speculation about this or that will amount to beans. Hopefully, The Alvarez’s, Lara’s and GGG’s will make relative marks to the fore-mentioned before they’re done.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:32 am 


Tomato Can

Cotto on the other hand has earned his stripes the hard way by fighting his way up through several weight classes. It’s been a pleasure seeing him fight over the years. There may be some guys who can beat him. Some styles will cause him more problems than others. But Cotto has achieved more than most could hope for. The naturally bigger Canelo and GGG can only hope to achieve as much. And as it stands they don’t compare, yet….

Posted June 9, 2014 1:21 am 


TARK

When I first saw Wilfredo Benitez I said he’d be knocked out by the first good boxer he met who had a real good jab and a straight right—because he tried to slip everything. I thought Leonard, Hearns, and Duran would all knock him out.

Duran had one of those nights where he didn’t want to fight.. Hearns was beating WB so easily he didn’t try to stop him.. Leonard wasn’t very sharp, but decked Benitez with a jab and stopped him late.

When I first saw Sergio Martinez I said he was a southpaw Benitez. His hands down… fighting off his front foot… giving you his head to shoot at… Martinez needs very fast, sharp footwork for his unusual style … and the footwork is gone. His style requires terrific speed and he was losing that 3 fights ago. I thought Murray beat him 115-111… Sergio said his knees were completely rehabbed and he was 100%. I believed him… They’re not. He’s got no speed or feet. His legs are shot. His style is blown up.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:20 am 


Tomato Can

Alvarez/Lara has the potential to turn into a sequel if Lara wins. If he doesn’t win he’ll be left to dwell in obscurity for another couple of years..

Posted June 9, 2014 1:13 am 


hookoffthejab

It needs to happen because that’s what REAL fight fans really want to see and will be demanding……< That ….One of my gripes with fighters like Canelo & Chavez Jr is that they were feed ………Tomato cans and has beens to get to the top…..And some people can justify this because neither of these two fighters have much of an amateur background ( unlike Cotto who i watched at the 2000 games) …..Saul for example fought guys from the UK ( Hatton a welterweight) to "win" the green belt …..Which is basically given him the title …And then when people like me were saying he should fight better opposition …. His "fans" would justify his lack of competitive opponents because of a lack of EXPERIENCE and AGE ( his still young ) LOL Please you can not have both either you're the champ or you are not ……My main irk with what squarecirlce says ….Is that it is "REAL FANS" that demand IT …..LOLS its because of the FANS that the fighters promoters help create ( causal observers of boxing or REAL FANS as SC refers to them ) that helped Canelo and Chavez Jr get to the top …..The very opposite of what "REAL fight FANS" are …..Real fight fans follow the sport of boxing …They try not make following the sport personal ……… He’s been avoiding Canelo for about two years now, so why stop now? TWO years really …Two years ago Canelo was beating up on welterweight Josésito López …Has been Shane Mosley (Cotto left overs) ….Kermit Cintrón….Ryan Rhodes…….After yesterdays performance anyone who still thinks that Miguel is hiding from ……..Saul Canelo ………Well lets just say that most fans would not be of that opinion

Posted June 9, 2014 1:08 am 


Tomato Can

That’s the funny thing about the fight game. Everytime a certain fighter loses it wins or a fight promoter changes things up, everyone goes into panic mode about what’s going to happen next…. Cotto got a great win and right now he should be targeting his best move. He just made the perfect move in picking Martinrz over Canelo, so there’s no reason to think he won’t do everything in his power to get the Mayweather fight next. This is his best option win it lose at any weight class. Hopefully it’ll be at 154 but Cotto has positioned himself perfectly, so it doesn’t matter. Sept is looking good for a Cotto/Mayweather fight. The only loser here is Maidana, because he deserves the rematch…

Posted June 9, 2014 1:08 am 


PEEJ

You are going to be on everybodies hated list for saying that Hidlag0

Posted June 9, 2014 12:44 am 


Boxtradamus

I predicted long AGO that Martinez’s rubber ducky Defense would DO him IN one day and I was CORRECT. Cotto was clocking his melon like a stationary SPEED bag. It may work against MW’s but not against smaller faster Fighters. Martinez being injured was a factor but having no Defense to resort to was a BIGGER factor

Posted June 9, 2014 12:10 am 


Auzbox

Fmj did school canelo but canelo is far from his prime yet and will only get better. A fighter reaches his full potential 28-30 so we are yet to see his best yet

Posted June 9, 2014 12:00 am 


The Mad Scientist

If Canelo beats Lara in July yes, Canelo vs Cotto needs to happen

Posted June 9, 2014 12:00 am 


Cee

Why are you all still hating! Canelo what get real FMJ made him look like a joke! Cotto would take him to school! Stop hating wetback!

Posted June 8, 2014 11:58 pm 


Auzbox

Well done cotto what a great effort by the champ

Posted June 8, 2014 11:55 pm 


Manny Pacquiao The Hero

Impressive win by Miguel Cotto. This is to serve notice that Cotto is going places. I’m interested to know who is his next opponent. Love to see him in the ring again.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:54 pm 


Papo

I kind of agree with Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing). Even if Canelo lose to Lara on point, a Canelo-Cotto matchup may still be intrigue. Of course, if Canelo beats Lara then it will really make Canelo-Cotto a great matchup.

Posted June 8, 2014 10:39 pm 


hookoffthejab

Whomever wins the Canelo/Lara fight should get the go ahead ….Peter Q would be my choice though he wont fight Cotto …….If Saul can win that would be a huge match up ….Though if he loses to Lara …..That will just prove that he was is not ready for this level of fighting just yet ….Another go at Junior would be the better of all these …….

Posted June 8, 2014 10:19 pm 


Fallen

What would the eastsideboxing world be like without good ole boxtradamus. Lol

Posted June 8, 2014 10:15 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Russian is a monster

Posted June 8, 2014 10:15 pm 


Boxtradamus

I predicted long AGO that Martinez’s rubber ducky Defense would DO him IN one day and I was CORRECT. Cotto was clocking his melon like a stationary SPEED bag. It may work against MW’s but not against smaller faster Fighters. Martinez being injured was a factor but having no Defense to resort to was a BIGGER factor.

Posted June 8, 2014 9:28 pm 



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