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DaTruth Hurts

Martinez lost because he was too cocky and too confident taking cotto for Granted. he and his trainer assumed they’d steamroll the smaller damaged Cotto.. They didn’t even have a plan B.. once Cotto hurt Martinez he got on his Bike and ran for his life… as for his Knees.. stop with the BS Excuses, you’re sounding like Sore losin Mexicans… His knees looked pretty good as he ran away from Cotto all night long without ever slowing down.. Someone with Bad knees could not run away from Cotto all night… He got beaten up by a much Better Boxer fighter..

Posted June 18, 2014 10:27 am 


D

haye was 29 with great knees. broke toe? it had 3 weeks to heal

Posted June 15, 2014 6:58 pm 


D

martinez lost cause he’s 39 and his knees and shoulders are debilitated

Posted June 15, 2014 6:56 pm 


Anonymous

ali with a broken jaw

Posted June 15, 2014 8:55 am 


Anonymous

at least haye went 12 with a very sore toe.

Posted June 15, 2014 6:51 am 


Anonymous

your wife is a moron

Posted June 15, 2014 4:21 am 


Happyboy

Bears remains an idiot…

Posted June 15, 2014 12:07 am 


TARK

Tachyon…, “TARK Martinez was in good shape and was moving well only problem he severely underestimate Cotto’s power thinking he could walk through Cotto’s punches and believing his 24\7 hype that Cotto was the small man which he learned the hard way.”

Martinez was in HORRIBLE shape and getting exceedingly worse in each fight for his last 3 fights.. With his knees, shoulders, and body he could barely take any pressure, pulling or pushing.. He said he was merely injured in his previous 2 fights but he was wearing braces and sheaths on his knees to prop them up. Why is that?

With 2 minutes to go in the first round Cotto countered a weak right lead with a perfect hook and sent Martinez stumbling all over the ring. His legs couldn’t support him. The knock down punches that followed 20 seconds later weren’t hard. It was a pulldown. With 62 seconds to go Cotto caught Martinez with another hard punch. The follow up knockdown shots weren’t strong, and neither were the shots for the 3rd knockdown. You shouldn’t be going down from those types of punches.

In none of the other rounds did Cotto land a hard punch. The last knockdown was not a real knockdown. There was no glove touch. You wouldn’t ordinarily stop a fight right there but his knees were getting killed.

SM even clearly told his corner that his knees were hurting bad… and Kellerman reiterated his words in the interview.

Posted June 14, 2014 3:13 pm 


Anonymous

that would sort the real men from the prima donnas.

Posted June 14, 2014 12:35 pm 


Tachyon

Bad for the body long term but right Canelo is young his body can handle it. Point is rehydrating to gain a weight advantage is no different than using roids. weigh in should happen on fight night if your fighting at 154 you should weigh 154 or under on fight night.

Posted June 14, 2014 2:47 am 


te tumbo

TACHYON, just to clarify, you believe that rehydrating 20lbs overnight is an advantage or disadvantage for which fighter?

Posted June 13, 2014 11:49 pm 


Tachyon

Right Bears whoopie Canelo will got to 160 weighing in fight night at 180.

Posted June 12, 2014 9:14 pm 


SLIM

Fraud is definitley making millions, did I say Fraud?! sorry I meant Floyd. But ANYBODY who believes he’s making $100M per fight is out of their dam mind. Don’t waste your time arguing that point Auz. Have a nice day.

Posted June 12, 2014 8:33 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmond didn’t make 100 mill in one fight as most of the floyd dumbs said. And couldn’t break 1 mill with showtimes most expensive card PERIOD

Posted June 12, 2014 7:11 pm 


SREDMOND

The man made 105 million for a 2 fights that’s the MOST ever in the history of the sport no matter what WINNING!

Posted June 12, 2014 5:51 pm 


mansworld

Floyd can fight Kahn and get 1 million ppvs easy. FCK Manny and Arum for that matter he made 300 million since leaving top rank. Hell The UK are loyal and if he does 24/7 in the UK they will go crazy. Kahn will get his ass kicked though another easy pay day and another 70+million dollar pay day Floyd is ridiculous the highest paid athelite besides tiger woods…

Posted June 12, 2014 4:38 pm 


klaus heisler

Floyd may have made a lot of money vs canelo but he also has an expensive lifestyle and if history has taught us anything especially in boxing is the taxman comes for you at the end of your career. but lets be straight canelo apart Floyd has cost showtime a lot of money and his star is waneing I don’t see him hitting 1 mil ppv’s in his next fight

Posted June 12, 2014 3:48 pm 


Auzbox

No slim people on here think that floyd made 100 mill for the canelo fight which Forbes founded to be untrue. And slim because you work for your dad or al haymon doesn’t change how much tax you pay sorry champo. Forbes looks into who is paid and what. Floyd earns alot yes but not as much as floyd says nor his stupid fans believe. Have a nice day champ.

Posted June 12, 2014 8:00 am 


SLIM

I think everybody pays taxes on the money they make last I heard. Auzbox do you work for Al Haymon or something? Seems like you have all the inside knowledge…

Posted June 12, 2014 5:21 am 


Donald Sterling

I earned more than Floyd

Posted June 12, 2014 5:06 am 


Auzbox

Yes sredmond floyd did earn 105 for the year, not 100 v canelo like some fools think. Then he paid a whole lot of tax on that bad boy

Posted June 11, 2014 9:34 pm 


BEARS

i still think wlads the toughest most mma heavyweight contest comes down to striking and wlads the best heavyweight striker in the world.

in terms of ground game its not as big a part of heavyweight division in mma.

moreover , i think a heavy boxer would fair better in the octagon than an mma heavy would fair in the ring son

Posted June 11, 2014 8:44 pm 


Anonymous

Bears says Wladimir Klitschko is the baddest/ toughest dude on earth. Really? I doubt whether Wlad would be the last man standing if he were to take on some of the top fighters in the various MMA guises. I seriously doubt it. Once they get him off his vertical base he would be easy meat. Vitali however is a different animal and may well enjoy getting a proper fight for a change. This in no way detracts that there isn’t a heavyweight boxer competing for pay that can beat him at thus moment. In fact they’re all so weak he could probably take one of them on each week for the next couple of months and still not lose a round.

Posted June 11, 2014 7:29 pm 


vet vic

He could gain even more leverage if collected the ibf belt from Soliman. Soliman just took the belt from Sturm, so the dates could be arranged.

Posted June 11, 2014 5:50 pm 


Anonymous

sredmond pacquiao basketball thread —>

Posted June 11, 2014 4:00 pm 


SREDMOND

FORBES LIST… And all the while the Bear is WHINING…Mayweather earned $105 million during the past 12 months for 72 minutes of work in the ring for fights against Canelo Alvarez and Marcos Maidana. The payday puts Mayweather atop Forbes’ annual list of the world’s highest-paid athletes for the second time in three years. Mayweather is the first athlete, besides Tiger Woods, to crack the $100 million earnings threshold (Michael Jordan, Michael Schumacher and Mike Tyson have also turned the trick on an inflation-adjusted basis).

Posted June 11, 2014 3:44 pm 


SREDMOND

The World paid MORE money too see Canelo vs Floyd than it hand for ANY other fight in history and that was largely because they thought Canelo had a chance to win based on his skills, size, youth and power… Bears being the turncoat SCUMBAG that he is also believed that Alvarez would prevail and when FMJ took him to school we were AS USUAL treated to a TON of Bears excuses.. AGAIN there is no pleasing these sorts the bar moves constantly and if they don’t like the result they simply pretend it never happened JUST LIKE children..

Posted June 11, 2014 3:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, thinks Floyd lost to Maidana either 9-3 or 8-4 this is the mindset of this CHILD.. You is not smart enough to even try and sell a close win.. I personally see 8-4 or 7-5 for Mayweather as reasonable not alleging an utter blow out for Floyd who himself said the contest was competitive.. But the BEAR of course sees this as a wipeout for Maidana even though ALL the shots that are highlight reel worthy were landed by Floyd Mayweather… The BEAR is 2 steps BELOW an idiot or moron..

Posted June 11, 2014 3:08 pm 


SREDMOND

I don’t think that Lara is getting by Canelo, that statue of a boxer Angulo had him on the floor 2x, and Alvarez is a better fighter than that by plenty.. Lara is talented but Canelo wants it more in my opinion… Bears wants Maidana to get the win for “trying hard” in real boxing you have to BEAT the Champ, not swing hard, miss, wrestle and get outboxed for long stretches… Just like Oscar wanting the “W” without doing any damage and getting whacked cleanly “Lampley saying throwing and throwing” was not gonna cut it when shots are being rolled, missed and countered Mayweather is the pinnacle of skill and only time will finally defeat him which is the hope of every nutless creep like FMJ because his heroes like Wlad were getting SMASHED in their prime…

Posted June 11, 2014 2:22 pm 


Ok

Maidana lost next. Bring on a mere con and another cool 80 million in cash. Marcos won 4 in a row and Canelo was undefeated Floyd fights the beat out there. Porter, Thurman are too green Lara is another unproven guy who might not get pat Canelo who Floyd already schooled. Who does that leave? Nothing cherry picked about these guys…

Posted June 11, 2014 2:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, HOW can do you support your statement that the judges were “bought and paid for” ???? Like I said below you ALWAYS have a story or bizarre rationale when you don’t like a particular fighter or outcome…Honestly its a standing joke, you were for Canelo and when he lost?? you discussed him as drained, you swear Vitali got attacked by a rabid weasel instead of Lewis right hand, now you are alleging that Floyd paid off the sport to secure the Maidana win which is patently ridiculous given the nature of the bout…

Posted June 11, 2014 2:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, is SUCH and idiot he states that his take on Mayweather is “not personal” then he calls the boxer “Fraud” constantly just like he learned from his fellow dweebs on this board…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That’s VERY personal !

Posted June 11, 2014 2:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Here you go again discussing your FAVORITE topic “The Race” of fighters which for me ALWAYS signals your being pissed with me breaking down another dumb argument you pulled out of your “Mud Shute”…

Posted June 11, 2014 2:12 pm 


mansworld

BEARS go fck yourself who cares the reality is Floyd is on top of the food chain his fights sell out Vegas deal with it. You sound like biiootch like the rest of these pactard crying morons. Manny needs to speak with his hand until he beats. Floyd, Canelo or Danny Garica no one will pay to see him fight much less say he is great. Hell Floyd school Canelo and Marquez Manny didn’t and couldn’t ever…

Posted June 11, 2014 2:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you say “nothing personal” then you call the boxer in question “Fraud” repeatedly as if that’s his name or you don’t know its Floyd… That is INDEED BIAS and you are VERY personal in everything you do that’s why your opinions are tainted and utterly ridiculous…

Posted June 11, 2014 2:11 pm 


BEARS

im not bitter i call it like i see it. nothin personal son. deffense of the fraud is what u have made personal. that and crediting blacks while discrediting whites. yes sredmond can be found white bashing on any klitschko, calzaghe, 3g, page. he tries to attack the baddest dude on earth and toughest thereby best boxer on earth bad wlad klitschKO all the time.

alas nobody cares for the 100 posts repeating the same swill. or change the handle to poor pacturds and start talking about fraud “banking”

lol at poor sredmond what a loon dude!

Posted June 11, 2014 2:04 pm 


SREDMOND

Canelo was NOT a cherry pick for Trout, Maidana was NOT a cherry pick for Broner, Cotto was NOT a cherry pick for Martinez, Guerrero was NOT a cherry pick for Berto, Mosley was NOT a cherry pick for Margarito and the list goes on… As soon as Floyd steps to the ring these guys are gonna get outboxed and the critics can’t stand it while SREDMOND loves it!

Posted June 11, 2014 1:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Scott and Bears TWO bitter Anti-Mayweather sorts that are flummoxed that they cannot see this NOW 37 year old fighter book a loss even though his last several opponents have been YOUNGER!! “All I do is Win Win Win no matter what”

Posted June 11, 2014 1:55 pm 


BEARS

mayweather alone was notthe draw and only reason for record money being made although this nutsack wants to imply that below. what shallow-pate

Posted June 11, 2014 1:53 pm 


SREDMOND

JIM LAMPLY’S TAKE ON THE FIGHT AND HIS NETWORK GOT DISSED BY MAYWEATHER… Jim Lampley…..espite working for Showtime’s chief rival HBO, blow-by-blow man Jim Lampley has seen both Floyd Mayweather and Marcos Maidana up close many times over the course of each man’s career. In fact, Mayweather competed exclusively on HBO during the main run of his undefeated tenure until signing his unprecedented contract with Showtime in 2013. So it would only be natural that Lampley has some thoughts about the pair’s fight that took place this past Saturday night in Las Vegas.

Speaking with The Sweet Science’s Kelsey McCarson, Lampley tells us that he was just as surprised as most of us that Maidana was able to make it such a competitive struggle.

“I said on the ‘The Fight Game’ I thought Floyd would win 10 or 11 rounds in a one-sided unanimous decision…I thought Maidana had the kind of straight-forward, unsophisticated style that Floyd could easily take apart, and it didn’t happen.

“Now, I scored it 115-113, or seven rounds to five. That’s pretty close, but I also thought it was pretty clear that Floyd had reeled in the situation, particularly in the second half of the fight, and won it. But I thought that Maidana got the jump on him, particularly early on, by throwing many punches from odd angles.

Posted June 11, 2014 1:53 pm 


BEARS

frauds the goat at making money as a boxer. we know that. how much fraud makes though is irrelevant to any red blooded boxing fan. money lovers forum is another web site. its not called east side boxing so that lost below about “banking” probably sredmonds alt one o many. is irrelevant

Posted June 11, 2014 1:51 pm 


BEARS

2 judges gave maidana round 12 so maidana won the round officially. one judge gave maidana round 11. sredmond saw maidanas “head spinning for the final four rounds”

thats cause u see what u want to see. clements and moretti should be fired. 3 and 4 rounds to maidana!!!

can u say BOUGHT AND PAID FOR SON!!!?!?

those were floyds real scores, 3 or 4 rounds AT BEST!!! AT BEST.

in argentina that would have been frauds score. anywhere objective forthat matter. at least the fans know floyd lost. and if u think he won i would love to know the rounds and the criteria.

Posted June 11, 2014 1:48 pm 


Scott

Americans are idiots

Posted June 11, 2014 1:42 pm 


Scott

Floyd is an over hyped cherry picking coward, nothing close
to being great, and never was.

His thick padded resume is saturated with bums, past prime, shot, old or green fighters. And for the others like Corrales, Guerrero, Ortiz and Maidana that speaks for itself . Worst than sparring partners. Potential great matchups he skipped and now he’s ducking Lara, GGG and Manny

Posted June 11, 2014 1:40 pm 


poor pacturds

Floyd Mayweather has been cashing multi-million checks for his fights for more than a decade. He banked at least $25 million for each of his past nine bouts going back to 2007 when he defeated Oscar De La Hoya in the most watched fight in the history of boxing pay-per-view events. Mayweather has earned almost $400 million in the ring since he turned pro in 1996 after the Olympics, but he has never had a year like this past one.

Mayweather earned $105 million during the past 12 months for 72 minutes of work in the ring for fights against Canelo Alvarez and Marcos Maidana. The payday puts Mayweather atop Forbes’ annual list of the world’s highest-paid athletes for the second time in three years. Mayweather is the first athlete, besides Tiger Woods, to crack the $100 million earnings threshold (Michael Jordan, Michael Schumacher and Mike Tyson have also turned the trick on an inflation-adjusted basis).

Posted June 11, 2014 1:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Sure Bears, “Mayweather was never in control” that’s why he was spinning Maidanas head like a top in the final 4 rounds, I know, I know you turned the TV off for that ugliness because it does not sync with your poorly crafted distortions, Bears you have NOT overcome your learning disabilities you try to hide them but they are VERY apparent to me.. Your vain attempts to seem sharp and poorly crafted arguments betray a substandard brain..Play in the sand and dream Maidana won all you want MEANWHILE the rest of the world is moving on with Mayweather STILL the #1 fighter in the sport, Undefeated for 18 years and with every accolade imaginable… Maidana FAILED and like you love to do, and you are most comfortable you are aligning yourself with the LOSER..

Posted June 11, 2014 1:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, NO it is indeed YOU who plays fast and loose with the facts, CONSTANLTY overturning decisions of you don’t like the winning fighter… Making all sorts of bizarre allegations that a dullard like you can never prove and flip flopping and making excuses when results don’t suit you, you are VERY spineless and easily shaken when you cannot gather a couple of fellow lames to support your off the wall opinions…Facts Mayweather 46-0 Unified Champ 2 weight classes…Gotta love things you can PROVE Bear!!

Posted June 11, 2014 1:21 pm 


BEARS

maidana won rounds that were given to floyd. maidana pretty much was the guy in that fight not floyd. floyd never took really took control if anyone lost more rounds in a row it was floyd

i do not what criteria u are using to give floyd rounds but he was outlanded, outhrown, out hustled, maidana was the ringgeneral, the agressor and set the tone and character of the entire fight. it was the maidana show. its one of my favorite fights.

so while dan says floyd eeked out a win sredmond says maidana did nothing in the fight!!!!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAN WHAT A GOON!!

Posted June 11, 2014 1:11 pm 


BEARS

in your world u do not know whAts going on sredmond. in my world i think like post conveys not like your fabrications of how i think. thats boxing son

make stuff up about other people on another site. liars have no respect here. im tired of watching u lie about what multiple posters say. anyone who does not agree with u. u lie about their positions and views. then comment on it. dude like u needs OUSTED from forums and should have no respect

thats MY OPINION AND VIEW

Posted June 11, 2014 1:01 pm 


SREDMOND

You don’t even have the sense to argue that Maidana won a close fight INSTEAD you want to sell Maidana as having dominated Floyd Mayweather who pretty much won the last 4 rounds in a row… No matter, Mayweather is the undefeated, and Unifed Champ in 2 weight classes!!! Hoo RAY!!!!

Posted June 11, 2014 12:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Dan, Works for ESPN which is NOT HBO or Showtime as usual you insinuate that there is a “Conspiracy” or someone is being cheated.. You are a JOKE as it pertains to this sort of thing

Posted June 11, 2014 12:54 pm 


BEARS

I am a Floyd hater, I love Manny though and I want him to take me from behind while hecdog watches…

Posted June 11, 2014 12:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears in your world Mayweather lost via KO LMAO!

Posted June 11, 2014 12:49 pm 


BEARS

so dan said fraud eeked out a win. i disagree. and dan works for a network. i like dan but he is wrong. maidana won

Posted June 11, 2014 12:46 pm 


BEARS

^^^s “epic phuk head” redmond

TARK def made it known what he thinks of your contribution and totally rejected you speakin on his behalf. good show TARK old chap!!!

i am surprised TARK even gives his time repondimg to a phuk head like u sredmond. i am surprised i do.

i see valid inferences about martinez up and down this thread about him being shot by multiple posters. i can not really tell what sredmonds message is.

i thinkthe crux of the message is its all about the pre-fight forecast and no one can have post fight analysis for if they do they incur the WRATH OF RACEMOND!! lol!

just like the hypothesis analogy i made below alluding tothe scientific method. i swear racemond u are a total digbat. actually on the boards insulting people over their views and opinions daily and telling them they are wrong.

what exactly is your message racemond? i am curious if u could distill it for me i could not seem to glean what it was in your 100 posts refurgitating the same swill over and over. please help

also, sredmomd maybe a little more boxing related talk. who do u think are the most entertaining fighters right now or your must see’s? like a top 3 or 5

Posted June 11, 2014 12:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Dan Rafael, the judges and most SANE observers take on Mayweather vs Maidana…..Dan Rafael ESPN…1. Floyd Mayweather Jr. (46-0)

Floyd Mayweather Jr. The pound-for-pound king, who simultaneously holds unified titles at junior middleweight and middleweight, returned to welterweight for a unification bout with hard-charging Marcos Maidana on May 3 and won a majority decision in a very tough, exciting fight. Although the bout was perhaps the toughest of Mayweather’s career, he did what real champions do — he found a way to win against a very determined and strong opponent. The fight seemed almost dead-even through about eight rounds, but Mayweather closed strong and got the decision he deserved. It was so good and so competitive, it might mean a rematch in September.
Next: Sept. 13 vs. TBA.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:43 pm 


BEARS

maidana beat floyds a$$ and sredmond just said maidana basically did nothing.

maidana was the ring general, the agressor, the one settig the pace, the one throwing relentlessly, the one driving his opponent ti the ropes and corners. floyd lost plain and simple.

tell me what rounds u gave to floyd garbage man

Posted June 11, 2014 12:38 pm 


BEARS

klitschko is the king of the ring no one else can beat him that makes him the best. floyd would get beat down. sk woads the best simple as that.

subjective rankings mean nothing when it comes to the fact that wlad would murder any other fighter. p4p can not help anyone in the ring with wlad in REAL LIFE

Posted June 11, 2014 12:26 pm 


BEARS

canelos a beast! one of my favs!

after he woops lara and impresses all, the kids body has grown, so after canelo vs lara he is on his way to 160 to meet everyone there and 160 will be stacked with 3g, cotto, quillin, et al

i cant wait for canelo vs lara. we are gonna see if canelo is willing to bring the brawler out. if he boxes the whole fight and gets beat i will be like wtf! he better do what it takes to win and he better leave it all in the ring

Posted June 11, 2014 12:10 pm 


DaTruth Hurts

Just wait until Cuban Lara Biatch Slaps Canelo around the Ring from post to post like Mayweather did to see all the excuses the resident Chihuahuas like Tumbo will make for why Lara was able to do that to Canelo… LOL it’ll be funny

Posted June 11, 2014 10:25 am 


DaTruth Hurts

Most if not all of the Sore Loser Rants on these Boards are not from Argentinians.. they’re from Sore Losing Chihuahuas like te tumbo, who prayed to their Santa Muerte Saint for Sergio to Beat the Puerto Rican Super Star Cotto… Because it drives them insane when a Puerto Rican gets such Attention and Accolades.. LOL fkers never change..

Posted June 11, 2014 10:24 am 


SREDMOND

“Klitschko the best fighter in the world” YEAH right! he is certainly the BEST HW in the world that said the powers that be and the boxing community as a whole knows that Floyd Mayweather Jr is the BEST most consistent fighter in boxing over the past almost 20 years… While Wlad was getting TKOEd, making excuses about stamina, poison and trainers Floyd was a multi-weight World Champion and on the P4P list in his early 20′s… I respect Wlads reign during this desolate era for the HW division but he is not Mayweathers equal in skill or execution during his career.

Posted June 11, 2014 10:03 am 


SREDMOND

Hookoffthejab, the “you are only as good or bad as your last fight has its limitations” a vetted fighter should be looked at in aggregate, Floyd Mayweathers standards of performance are SOOOO unusual that a tough fight looks like a collapse to novice fight fans… Reality is that in 18 years Mayweather has lost ONE card during a fight where he absorbed almost no punishment (Oscar)… Maidana was rough and unorthodox while largely hitting air, elbows and really doing NO damage.. Saying Lebron James is a 7 point a game scorer after a poor outing is ridiculous when his career average is 27 points, same for Mayweather and Cotto, it has been YEARS since Cotto looked that good against a top opponent meanwhile Mayweather handled him without too many issues… I hope they fight again but I would bet on Floyd being even more dominant…

Posted June 11, 2014 9:53 am 


hookoffthejab

You are only as good as ya last fight ….Aint ya heard ?…..

Posted June 11, 2014 1:11 am 


hookoffthejab

Roger Mayweather

“If they fought for the middleweight title, he’d [Mayweather Jr] beat him [Cotto] again,” Roger said to Hustleboss.com. “Floyd has too much skill for him. If he [Bob Arum] offered enough money, Floyd could whoop his [expletive] again. He’s [Cotto] not as good as they say he is. He got his [expletive] whooped [the last time he fought Floyd Jr.”

Roger brings up a good point about Mayweather Jr having too much skills for the 5’7″ Cotto. We saw exactly that in their fight in 2012 with Mayweather dominated Cotto with his pin point shots, and his beautiful combination punching. And this was with Mayweather taking it easy on him by fighting him fight in order to make it more interesting for the boxing fans to watch.
Posted June 11, 2014 12:47 am

Did they mention Juniors most recent fight ? ……..

Posted June 11, 2014 1:10 am 


Yo

hahahaha

Posted June 11, 2014 12:52 am 


Tachyon

Dumb jigaboos seems you are not able to read my man. Just because the USA does not give as much credit to black pioneers does not mean thee are none. Let me enlighten you with just a small sample of what is really out there.

Name Life Occupation Inventions/Accomplishments Refs
Amos, Harold 1918–2003 Microbiologist First African-American department chair at Harvard Medical School [5]
Alcorn, George Edward, Jr. 1940– Physicist
Inventor Invented a method of fabricating an imaging X-ray spectrometer [6][7]
Andrews, James J. 1930–1998 Mathematician Put forth the Andrews–Curtis conjecture in group theory with Morton L. Curtis, still unsolved [8]
Bailey, L.C. 1890–1976 Inventor Wind Powered Clothes Dryer. [9]
Ball, Alice Augusta 1892–1916 Chemist Extracted chaulmoogra oil for the treatment of Hansen’s disease (leprosy). [10]
Banneker, Benjamin 1731–1806 Mathematician
Astronomer
Surveyor
Clockmaker
Author
Farmer Wooden clock (1753). Assisted in survey of the original boundaries of the District of Columbia (1791). Authored almanac and ephemeris (1792–1797) [11]
Banyaga, Augustin 1947– Mathematician Work on diffeomorphisms and symplectomorphisms [12]
Janet Bashen 1957– Inventor
Entrepreneur
Professional
Consultant First African-American woman to receive a patent for a web-based software invention. The invention, LinkLine, is an Equal Employment Opportunity case management and tracking software. [13]
Bath, Patricia 1942– Ophthalmologist First African-American female physician to receive a patent for a medical invention. Inventions relate to cataract surgery and include the Laserphaco Probe, which revolutionized the industry in the 1980s, and an ultrasound technique for treatment. [14][15][16]
Beard, Andrew 1849–1921 Farmer
Carpenter
Blacksmith
Railroad worker
Businessman
Inventor Janney coupler improvements

Invented the car device#594,059 dated November 23, 1897
Rotary engine patent #478,271 dated July 5, 1892

[17]
Bell, Earl S. 1977– Inventor
Entrepreneur
Architect
Industrial Designer Invented Chair With Sliding Skin (2004), and the Quantitative Display Apparatus (2005) [18]
[19] [20]

Benjamin, Miriam 1861–1947 Inventor
Educator Invented “Gong and Signal Chair for Hotels”. Second African-American woman to receive a patent. [21]
Berry, Leonidas 1902–1995 Gastroenterologist Gastroscope pioneer [22]
Bharucha-Reid, Albert T. 1927–1985 Mathematician
Statistician Probability theory and Markov chain theorist [23]
Black, Keith 1957– Neurosurgeon Brain tumor surgery and research [24][25]
Blackwell, David 1919–2010 Mathematician
Statistician First proposed the Blackwell channel model used in coding theory and information theory; one of the eponyms of the Rao–Blackwell theorem, which is a process that significantly improves crude statistical estimators. [26]
Blair, Henry 1807–1860 Inventor Second black inventor to issue a patent
Invented early spark plug [27]
[28]

Boahen, Kwabena 19xx– Bioengineer Silicon retina able to process images in the same manner as a living retina [29][30]
Boone, Sarah 1832–1905
Inventor Ironing board allowing sleeves of women’s garments to be ironed more easily [31][32][33]
Bouchet, Edward 1852–1918 Physicist First African-American to receive a Ph.D. in any subject. Received physics doctorate from Yale University in 1876.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:48 am 


Roger Mayweather

“If they fought for the middleweight title, he’d [Mayweather Jr] beat him [Cotto] again,” Roger said to Hustleboss.com. “Floyd has too much skill for him. If he [Bob Arum] offered enough money, Floyd could whoop his [expletive] again. He’s [Cotto] not as good as they say he is. He got his [expletive] whooped [the last time he fought Floyd Jr.”

Roger brings up a good point about Mayweather Jr having too much skills for the 5’7″ Cotto. We saw exactly that in their fight in 2012 with Mayweather dominated Cotto with his pin point shots, and his beautiful combination punching. And this was with Mayweather taking it easy on him by fighting him fight in order to make it more interesting for the boxing fans to watch.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:47 am 


Tachyon

Te tumbo Cintron was a shot fighter, Williams was a shot fighter, Pavlock was a drunk shot fighter who still knocked Martinez down, and Chavez is a fat out of shape fighter. 50 fights against no names 4 fights against shot fighters first top 5 true fighter Martinez gets in the ring with he is blown away. Also Martinez believed his own hype thinking Cotto was the smaller man and he could walk through Cotto’s punches which he learned differently that was Martinez majore flaw and it got him hurt in the first round Martinez never recovered.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:41 am 


BEARS

s “epic phuk head” redmond

TARK def made it known what he thinks of your contribution and totally rejected you speakin on his behalf. good show TARK old chap!!!

i am surprised TARK even gives his time repondimg to a phuk head like u sredmond. i am surprised i do.

i see valid inferences about martinez up and down this thread about him being shot by multiple posters. i can not really tell what sredmonds message is.

i thinkthe crux of the message is its all about the pre-fight forecast and no one can have post fight analysis for if they do they incur the WRATH OF RACEMOND!! lol!

just like the hypothesis analogy i made below alluding tothe scientific method. i swear racemond u are a total digbat. actually on the boards insulting people over their views and opinions daily and telling them they are wrong.

what exactly is your message racemond? i am curious if u could distill it for me i could not seem to glean what it was in your 100 posts refurgitating the same swill over and over. please help

also, sredmomd maybe a little more boxing related talk. who do u think are the most entertaining fighters right now or your must see’s? like a top 3 or 5

Posted June 11, 2014 12:40 am 


Dumb Jigaboos

Redmond can’t get over the fact that the best fighter in the world is a white Ukranian or the facts that the most significant achievements by a black man in the fields of science involve peanuts . One would suggest he is a living stereotype I the way he puts so much effort into extolling the virtues of a mere pugilist. Floyd is no Warren Buffet and will be broke in a decades time .The Afro American community’s obsession with sports and or getting rich “the easy way ” do it no good at all. Compare them with say the Jewish , Chinese or Indian communities who treat sport as it should be treated.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:39 am 


Tachyon

He could not find his footing because his shorts dripped water on the adds making them slippery. Martinez was beat into submission plain and simple

Posted June 11, 2014 12:32 am 


te tumbo

Martinez was able to hop and glide from a distance but when he tried to plant on the inside he couldn’t find his footing and was being pushed around. he was also over and undershooting his Left with regularity and that’s his go-to punch. his timing was off and his reflexes were “cold”. not the same Martinez that defeated Cintron, Pavlik, Williams, and Chavez Jr.

Posted June 11, 2014 12:11 am 


Tachyon

TARK Martinez was in good shape and was moving well only problem he severely underestimate Cotto’s power thinking he could walk through Cotto’s punches and believing his 24\7 hype that Cotto was the small man which he learned the hard way.

Posted June 10, 2014 11:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark UNLIKE YOU I own my bad calls I NEVER had Angulo beating Canelo, that’s a joke Angulo has been banged up since Kirkland and being deported.. Try again, more nonsense because you were wrong..

Posted June 10, 2014 11:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, you are FAR from an expert not even close and if you had confidence in your thought process you would admit you were wrong and move on INSTEAD you are backtracking same as you did after Canelo with your putrid excuse making..

Posted June 10, 2014 10:11 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., I get one heck of a lot more right than you do. I qualified my pick on Martinez bringing his body back to good condition and form. He was worse than ever.

Many people got this fight wrong. Only IDIOTS like you picked Peterson to beat Matthysse, Marquez to KO Bradley, AND Floyd to KO Canelo. If I’m not mistaken you also had Angulo to beat Canelo. None of those were ever going to happen.

I have a little more expertise than somebody like you, who pulls bonehheaded predictions out of his ass.

Posted June 10, 2014 9:33 pm 


?

Cotto has ZERO leverage with either guy. ZERO.He lost to both of them and draws less fans than both fighters. Having a belt in a different weight class means nothing. Props to him for his win, but let’s discuss why he left 147 and 154 in the first place.

Posted June 10, 2014 7:51 pm 


Yo

Fight Aficionado

Agreed

Posted June 10, 2014 7:31 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, he LOST and you picked him to WIN it’s really that simple, just be a man and admit you were wrong!!

Posted June 10, 2014 7:19 pm 


TARK

BTW sred.., I never spat on Bears.. Others have stated they thought Maidana beat Floyd also.. It’s an opinion.. Floyd looked slow and not up to form.

You always talk about peeing and spitting on people. Those are your delusional fantasies. Anybody who reads your ignorant posts knows you’re mentally unhinged.

Posted June 10, 2014 7:09 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., You’re a plain and simple idiot.

I didn’t put any money on Martinez… If you read my posts I said his knees could be gone—but if they’re fine he should win.. I was hoping.. I never gave odds.. I never said it was a betting fight.. I never said you could put any bet on the fight.

I was the one who pointed out continuously that Martinez was wearing braces and sheaths on his knees. He said his knees were 100% and they were just percautionary. I was extremely skeptical but believed him for some reason. He comes off like a very honest person.

And it wasn’t just knee problems. He seemed to have shoulder and back problems as well. He fought like a 80 year old.

Posted June 10, 2014 7:01 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS
Re ‘Peckerwood’ I’ve never hea that term before. I looked it up and I believe SRedmond used it in the terms of Supremacist connotations.

Peckerwood is the inverse of the word woodpecker. In most parts of the country where the word originated, the woodpecker is considered to be a pest and or nuisance. Like other words sharing a similar context (a nuisance, bother, pest etc.), it quickly became a common retort in most social circles and groups of friends. It is a derogatory term referring to southern whites, similar to “rednecks”.

In the 1940s, the abbreviated version “wood” entered California prison slang, originally meaning an Okie mainly from the San Joaquin Valley. This has caused the symbol of the woodpecker to be used by white power skinheads and other pro-white groups.[1][2] Some white supremacist groups call male members “peckerwoods” and female members “featherwoods”.[3] It is usually drawn with a long beak, sometimes drawn to resemble Woody Woodpecker or Mr. Horsepower. Sometimes the letters “PW” or “APW” (Peckerwood and American Peckerwood) are used.[1]

When all is said and done I hope you and SRedmond and others on here refrain from racial slurs towards each other and to the fighters who lay their lives on the line to entertain us.

I DO NOT CONDONE racial slurs against white people, against black people or against anyone of any colour.

Guys keep, it boxing and keep any racist or bigoted views to yourselves. This goes to SREDMOND and BEARS.

You both have passion for boxing. Let’s keep it clean fellas!

Posted June 10, 2014 5:14 pm 


Just The Facts

regarding Floyd and him fighting above ’47, he says no to protect himself from trips aka ggg, however he would go to ’54 for a cotto rematch if the $$$ is right, when ya’ll gonna learn Floyd says whatever he wants at whatever time he wants with no regards to contradiction……or truth

Posted June 10, 2014 4:58 pm 


te tumbo

ANONYMASS, perhaps when you muster the creativity to claim a real handle, i will deign to respond. otherwise, “Anonymous” is easy to ignore . . . or take a dump on.

Posted June 10, 2014 4:43 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you did NOT call the fight because you are a CLUELESS BUM who is struggling to feed his kid, while STILL taking courses at the local trade school in his 30′s… YOU said “this might not be a mismatch there are too many variables” postfight you act like Cotto was a LOCK to win??? Why not bet all the money you earn getting Cancer working at the local Steel Mill and stave off your kids future giving lap dances and handjobs for $13 in the future? Again you know NADA abou boxing all you do is recite whatever your latest ESB mancrush is saying! Even Tark SPAT on you and noted Mayweathers win while you ran around claiming he was “Smoked”

Posted June 10, 2014 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Josh Clottey was a HARD night for almost everyone he was whipping Margo’s azz till he broke both hands and still finished the fight Cotto got butted EARLY in their bout and fought thru that to get the win, the version of Judah Cotto fought could still fight and was fast as all hell again you don’t know any of this because you were too busy believing HW is relevant and missed most of the era, also I am sure Cable reception is poor up on your mountain stronghold with the rest of the Neo Nazis you run with HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA !!

Posted June 10, 2014 4:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, why be impressed by a 4 weight World Champion and NOW Lineal Champ at 160??? This come along everyday LMAO, I know you will say they are mere “trinkets” till it’s some relatively unaccomplished fighter who’s pecker you want in your larynx ie Golovkin, you think Corrie Sanders accomplished more than Shane Mosley?? Almost every fight fan respects Cotto win or lose but of course this goes over your head because he ripped the legit MW Title out of Sergio’s hands and may have just forced GGG to 168 killing your dreams.. Poor Bear!!

Posted June 10, 2014 3:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Bears in case you didn’t know it out of the 112 or so boxers faced by Manny and Floyd ONLY 5 won!! Cotto was in with 2 ATG’s of the ERA you fool! A peak Marg who he later avenged and a fresh undefeated Trout… Surely you can cut him a break when your idol Wlad NEVER lost to a fighter or even remote significance unless you consider Purrity with his 13 losses a big deal..?????

Posted June 10, 2014 3:54 pm 


Anonymous

“I personally find his Hillbilly rants hilarious” LOL

Posted June 10, 2014 3:41 pm 


Fight Aficionado

The only leverage Cotto has is his bankability. Whether as the favorite or the underdog he draws big at the box office so he’ll be able to do what he wants whether it’s at 154 or 160. Good for him. He’s a hard working pro who never ducked anyone.

Posted June 10, 2014 3:35 pm 


BEARS

cotto got smoked by trout pac and fraud may did not smoke him. he beat a broke serg martinez. clottey and judah? dude stfu already it aint sh!t ask somebody biatch.

Posted June 10, 2014 3:27 pm 


BEARS

i did not get around to a forecast to tell ya the truth i was not that interested. martinez clearly diminished and we have know that forever. because we stay abreast of current situation in boxing. im not in illinois anymore i have graduated and moved

Posted June 10, 2014 3:25 pm 


BEARS

wheres anonymous condemning that post? and identifying its racism? or is anonymous like sharpton and jackson not really anti racist?

this clown makes stuff up as he goes. peckerwood is an actual racial slur equivalent to nig*er. good one sracemond! lol!!!!

Posted June 10, 2014 3:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, its called being a Monday Morning Quarterback and if you did not even have the BALLS to make a then KILL yourself…

Posted June 10, 2014 3:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Mayweather is 46-0 Unified Champ 2 weights Check it yourself !!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted June 10, 2014 3:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Whats GGG’s best win? Cotto has fought the TOUGHEST schedule of WW’s of any active fighter Mayweather, Pacquiao, Clottey, Margarito, solid version of Judah, Mosley, he fought Trout and now has smashed Martinez EVERY boxing authority is putting him in the HOF while you jackoff to whatever new fighter his tickling your stank prostate

Posted June 10, 2014 3:20 pm 


BEARS

i already watched fraud get beat by maidana and i will watch him scramble for the crappiest cherrys he can pick.

Posted June 10, 2014 3:19 pm 


BEARS

u exposed yourself as an utter imbecile below sracemond. actually implying pre fight forecast negates any post fight analysis. your a retard racemond.

no im not impressed by cotto. i like the guy but im not impressed by anything he has done

Posted June 10, 2014 3:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, is EASILY one of the WORST Bigots on this site whenever his arguments are getting ripped to shreds he reverts to RACE which is always a victory for me because it shows that this PeckerWood cannot debate on my level.. I personally find his Hillbilly rants hilarious, especially given his perfect imitation of trailer trash, its a FACT that his child was a product of unwed birth, he ADMITS this, he LIVES amongst GUN NUTS on the outskirts of ILL, the man has NOT finished College and his comments speak for themselves..

Posted June 10, 2014 3:17 pm 


BEARS

cotto beat some past its yeah. whats cottos best win really?

Posted June 10, 2014 3:17 pm 


BEARS

itwas floyd who said he was considering a martinez bout. tet your facts strait. said he would fight martinez. again get your facts strait

Posted June 10, 2014 3:16 pm 


BEARS

you have your opinion. it stinks and i could not care less. you do not know what color i am

Posted June 10, 2014 3:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, I REMEMBER you calling Manny “Little Pacquiao” and saying that Floyd had no business in the ring with him? Martinez calling out Floyd at 154 is nothing new, everyone SWEARS they can squeeze down for the paycheck! AGAIN you are changing your stance because Mayweather has denied you the opportunity to see him flat on his back, or LOSING like many of your heroes have forced you to endure… GGG and Sergio BOTH claimed to be secretly Jr MW’s YET neither fought there in recent history (GGG NEVER) against another boxer.. You were saying that “Cotto is not that Good” well that’s an opinion that was UNSUSTAINABLE before he beat Martinez and MORE after he beat Martinez, Cotto has more World Championship fights than GGG has TEETH and has fought more World Champs while Golovkin feasts on scrubs begging for the big time… WELL now he is gonna wait while the REAL players in boxing sort things out and make that CAKE CAKE CAKE (Jay Z voice)… Relax and learn to accept the various testicles on your chin :)

Posted June 10, 2014 3:14 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS

racemonds a black racist so so its pertinent to the invectives.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:40 pm

The only facts that can be proven BEARS is that you are a racist. You are clearly not black as you have posted that Redmond is a black racist.

Two wrongs do not make a right, Bears.

This is why you are doing yourself a disservice and showing yourself up as naive, immature and quite stupid.

Posted June 10, 2014 3:12 pm 


BEARS

*bitter sracemond nuthuggers

Posted June 10, 2014 2:42 pm 


BEARS

racemonds a black racist so so its pertinent to the invectives.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:40 pm 


BEARS

we have bitte sracemond nutthuggers mad he got shut down and left. lol

Posted June 10, 2014 2:38 pm 


BEARS

because multiple people post as anonymous thats why BEARS is a real handle son.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:38 pm 


Yo

Is it just me or are BEARS and SQUARED CIRCLE REAL TALK

LION KING stupid lil boyz?

Posted June 10, 2014 2:34 pm 


Yo

A real handle? LOL

How is BEARS a real handle??? LMAO

Posted June 10, 2014 2:33 pm 


BEARS

im gonna keep being me. u should try using a real handle

Posted June 10, 2014 2:28 pm 


Yo

Most people skip Redmond’s comments? The opposite is true!

Posted June 10, 2014 2:19 pm 


Anonymous

Bears if you stuck to comments about boxing and ditched the racist comments you would be a good read. But, you get overzealous and all het up and in a spin and then can’t control your comments. Think about what I said. Most people skip Redmond’s comments. I suggest you do too.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:12 pm 


Anonymous

Correction. You’ve been doing this for years.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:09 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS

that ugly little poch mark faced black dude would get his phukn denture teeth knocked out if i ever felt like woopin sracemonds a$$. then he would get ktfo.i would brutalize that little b!tch

Posted June 10, 2014 10:50 am

Why do you have to call him black dude? You’ve done this countless times to countless other people who backed Lewis over Klitschko. It doesn’t mean they are racist. It means they believe the other guy won the fight.
Don’t get me wrong. I would call out anyone who calls people white this or that or Mexican or whatever. Just be cool in your comments and if he is a racist he will be outed by his comments.

We don’t need your millions of posts saying the same thing ad nausea.

Be a man and take him on with real talk and leave this racist bs in the gutter. Sad thing is you’ve been doubt this for years and your comments are in black and white and are irrefutably racist.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:08 pm 


Anonymous

some very sad yanks on here.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:07 pm 


BEARS

^^^^none of that makes me a racist son if i was racist i would tell ya. this is the internet i have nothin to hide

Posted June 10, 2014 2:05 pm 


Anonymous

Bears, your knowledge of boxing is about as thin as the veneer that you try to cover your racist heart with. Bears, the most racist and bigoted child on this forum.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:03 pm 


BEARS

none of that makes me a racist son if i was racist i would tell ya. this is the internet i have nothin to hide

Posted June 10, 2014 2:02 pm 


Anonymous

Bears claims he’s not a racist, but he trips himself up in his numerous garbage posts calling people out by their colour and now bringing Obama and government aid into the equation.

Bears is and always will be a racist piece of crap.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:59 pm 


Tojoe

Truly had no plan b. and he should learn to stop using his face to block punches.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:13 pm 


Public Enemy

I liked Martinez but he did talk a ton of sht in the HBO 24/7 episodes.. moaning and groaning reminded me of Chavez Cheato Jr. on their 24/7 episodes.. Sergio and his trainer had no plan B they trully arrogantly believed they would steam roll the smaller Cotto.. once Cotto hurt Martinez they all went into panic mode and just tried to survive.. Excellent showing by the Puerto Rican Super Star..

Posted June 10, 2014 12:59 pm 


BEARS

as stupid as sracemond as sracemond is i can not believe be has survived this long. government aid and aid workers must be keeping this dude going. he is probably posting messages from his obama phone.

ever notice this guy using words he clearly does not know how to use? he does it daily. he is like a severly retarded rainman. he see’s people using phrases and terminology and fails at using them himself.

Posted June 10, 2014 11:01 am 


BEARS

that ugly little poch mark faced black dude would get his phukn denture teeth knocked out if i ever felt like woopin sracemonds a$$. then he would get ktfo.i would brutalize that little b!tch

Posted June 10, 2014 10:50 am 


BEARS

i was saying martinez needs to fight the best middleweight 3g. of course let 3g harvest his scalp he is the middleweight in the world and gonna TAKEOVER. the fight makes the most sense as someone has to perform the coup de grat on martinez.

i said 3 years ago when martinez vs fraud at 154 was being considered when fraud was running scared from pac they should fight. afterall, fraud is on video saying he was interested and would take the fight so yeah it was even a viable possibility to fraud let alone me. so i do not understand u acting as though the idea is absurd again i think its cause you are “out of touch”

reality is we have been talking about serg body for years now and has really been discussed everytime he was discussed so it is nothing new. the body breakdown has been the reality and motiff of martinez career for years now. if anyone was surprised his body finally broke all the way then they did not stay abreast of what was happening with serg martinez. you are telling me know a bunch of people surprised martinez body finally fully gave out and he was not able to limp to or be gifted another win vs cotto?

Posted June 10, 2014 10:48 am 


Argy bargy

You two are like PAC and May. Are you ever going to get it on and resolve your differences?

Posted June 10, 2014 10:43 am 


BEARS

and i think thats why your wrong all the time when it comes to boxing. if anyone ever noticed u get it wrong religiously

Posted June 10, 2014 10:39 am 


BEARS

u are the worst flip-flopper i ever seen in fact u did not know the term tell i busted u out a thousand times over it. one of your original flip-flops was saying larry merchant can not be sited then siting him to make your case. that was a 2011 flip-flop job.

most your flip-flops have evolved to double standards. one standard for blacks and one for whites. credit to blacks and discredit for whites. your a simeton dude. “stand for nothing””

again what the phuk are you talking about as though boxing princepals, morals, and an ethics committee? are u smoking crack? boxing is simple.

we discuss fights before they happen and discuss the results afterwards.

imagine if in science after we did an experiment and it turned out contrary to our hypothesis we said”phuk that, i have to stay true to my original hypothesis, im not gonna flip-flop, i have princepals!”

its retarded son what your saying sracemond is on par with retardation. no wonder u interpret life in such warped ways. u have no idea what anything is or whats going on around u.

you have just posted some of the dumbest ideas concerning boxing interpretation i have ever read. suffice it say what u think boxing is, it is not son.

Posted June 10, 2014 10:38 am 


BEARS

does anybody know what sracemond is talking about with his advocation of not factoring a fight into the discussion? that one must stick to what one said pre fight and may not factor in the fight in a post fight analysis? as though there is only pre fight to discuss here not a real fight afterwards.

this guy is an utter imbecile. does ANYONE agree with this idiot who is not sracemond using a different name to post under

Posted June 10, 2014 10:29 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, OF COURSE you would be the STRONGEST advocate of “having it both ways” “changing your tune” “flip flopping” and fundamentally standing for NOTHING… In your BIZARRE world this frees you of responsibility for your calls and stances because your PUNY ego cannot absorb how WRONG and off the mark you are about so many boxing related matters…Prior to the bout you felt this was so close you could not pick (OR WERE AFRAID TO) afterwards you basically just took the easy road, and tried to downgrade Cotto’s accomplishment which defied the oddsmakers and experts especially when the severity of the beating he administered was taken into account… Bottomline you did NOT have the BALLs to even make a call now you wanna knock Cotto’s win? you are the SAME guy who was swearing that Mayweather, GGG and everyone else needed to fight Sergio, you did the SAME thing when Floyd made a fool of you by schooling Canelo who YOU picked to defeat Mayweather… AGAIN its easy picking a BUM like you apart HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted June 10, 2014 10:25 am 


BEARS

im gonna start using your tactics and techniques. im gonna tell people what your message is then comment on it like u do although i will do it for fun while u do it because your an imbecile that has no reading comprehension ability.

Posted June 10, 2014 10:23 am 


BEARS

sracemond- i just read TARKS last post after i read your response to it and i was like wtf is racemond talking about?

it is like your not responding to TARKS post at all just making up some stupid sh!t then pretending it is a response. do u have no reading comprehension or do u think your airheaded material up and hunt for a post u mistakingly think fits to use it against?

TARKS last post and your last post/response to TARKS POST show your an idiot.

your “cant have it both ways” dumba$$ statement and then u go on to act like tark is lauding cotto with some praise which he does not.

you are a flake dude. i do notthink i have ever read such valueless posts in my life.

gurantee 3g is generally viewed as the best middleweight at this point. now whats up son!! told your dumba$$

Posted June 10, 2014 10:20 am 


BEARS

sracemond- wtf u mean u ” cant have it both ways”

after the fight has been fought you factor it in to the discussion. it has nothing to do with how you forecast the fight to turn out

so yes everyone has it both ways. you make a forecast then discuss the fight afterwords taking the fight into consideration. it is whats done here at east side.

you are a nobody sracemond. so feel free to vomit your idiotic garbage up and down the thread in the form of you posting a thousand times saying the same thing over and over as though it validates it the more you say it. you are a phuk head dead.

people need to go up and down the thread and look at all the ways you saythe same phukn thing over and over. your a waste of east side space son

Posted June 10, 2014 10:12 am 


SREDMOND

Tark is ONCE AGAIN peppering the boards with his postfight revisions…Like most (myself included) he had Sergio as his pick and then when Martinez got blown out he is trying to discuss “a caveat” you cannot have it BOTH ways..If you placed a bet on Martinez to win and then said “depending on how he looks” you would STILL lose your $$$$ because you are NOW enjoying the benefit of hindsight.. Now suddenly like all bandwagoneers Tark sees Cotto as a man reborn and thinks this somehow makes him a different boxer than the guy who LOST to Mayweather 2 years ago… Tark GROWUP and stop adjusting your stance AFTER the results

Posted June 10, 2014 10:04 am 


Anonymous

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

Posted June 10, 2014 4:35 am 


BEARS

bunch of heavies i would like to see fight eachother. i think povetkin vs haye would be nice. pov vs stieverne. jennings and pov. i would like to see tyson fury fight a single person of note same as wilder but tysons been fighting for a decade and chisora has fought haye, vitaly, and helenius and fury has fought literally nobody.

i think tyson sux and will get beat. hughie looks like a good prospect. hughie looks better than anthony joshua

Posted June 10, 2014 4:07 am 


hookoffthejab

Did you see that footage of Chavez Sr telling his kid Junior ….Who had just woke up at some stupid time (10pm ?)….As usual he was floating around in his pool ……..As Chavez Sr was explaining to Junior …..(this is how you beat Sergio) Straight rights make Sergio circle to his right …..Throw left hooks and repeat ………Almost identical to the same plan that Cotto used to force Sergio into his punches …..(lefhook straight right) …….Of course Chavez junior paid his oldmans words no attention ………..

Posted June 10, 2014 4:03 am 


BEARS

3g, kovalev, canelo, provodnikov, pac, klitschko, froch, these guys are probably some of the most entertaining fighters right now if not the most. im sure i missed some guys but these dudes are MUST SEE!!

Posted June 10, 2014 4:02 am 


Drunk pom

@hook,@bear,.. good match up, can’t f”””””” wait

Posted June 10, 2014 4:02 am 


BEARS

i got 3g outclassing and stopping geal as 3g is the number one 160 pounder

Posted June 10, 2014 3:50 am 


hookoffthejab

I wish Daniel all the best he is going to need it …..Geale would have a hard enough time dealing with Cotto ……………Let alone GG …………

Posted June 10, 2014 3:49 am 


Drunk pom

@daniel geale… You are spot on son, gggs done zero , Danny will take him late rounds , geale has a few kos late, geales hit his prime gig is 33 done zero

Posted June 10, 2014 3:42 am 


Anonymous

Had serigo won, the wetbacks would have been out in full force.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:44 am 


Anonymous

“As the lineal champion, Cotto will no longer have to TOTALLY acquiesce to the dictates of ANY foe he faces” after detailing all of the compromises former lineal champion Martinez conceded to collect the smaller payday? Team Cotto’s calculation$ earned them the 160lb-titles they wanted but what now? Cotto wants NO part of Canelo at any weight. he still can’t defeat the likes of Trout or Lara. he also won’t consider facing Golovkin or any other credible and marketable 160lb-contender. ultimately, Cotto’s “leverage” won’t be used to satisfy true fight-fans. only his ego and bank account.”

Tim Mumbo, This applies to Floyd as it does to Canelo. If Cotto could go up in weight, so can Canelo. If your belief is Cotto should fight GGG, perhaps Canelo should volunteer his cinnamin first, get a belt and then they can talk. As it is, Canelo is in no position to make demands especially after losing to Floyd. Canelo offers nothing!!!

Posted June 10, 2014 2:42 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

GGG wanted floyd at 154 and he said he was finishing his career at 147 I hope he doesn’t fight cotto now cause its an easier opponent. But whats new

Posted June 10, 2014 2:41 am 


Anonymous

If hopkins offered to fight Floyd at 154 well, now’s a perfect time to fight Cotto at 160. History making for both. Let Floyd marinate in his own fraud.

Posted June 10, 2014 2:37 am 


Daniel geale

After I beat up gennedy ill take cotto out, leave quillan till last he is the biggest bum of all. America should be ashamed to have him as one of theirs but in saying that floyd and him are mates, both cherry pickers

Posted June 10, 2014 2:08 am 


Auzbox

Good one pommy, your hopeless at boxing, soccer no good, cricket no good. What are yous good at?

Posted June 10, 2014 2:04 am 


Cotto haterz

You all said cotto couldn’t win and he dominates so you make excuses for Martinez who doesn’t make them for him self. Poor idiots

Posted June 10, 2014 2:02 am 


Enough already

Canelo v cotto the only exciting fight. Mayweather bores you to death. Can’t even throw a three punch combo

Posted June 10, 2014 1:59 am 


Ray

Porn rules, Time to get some.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:49 am 


Poor pacturds

Great fight Miguel, no one thought you could pull it off but you did easy

Posted June 10, 2014 1:48 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Read down pom someone was criticising PAC and Marquez so I pointed out exactly what you just did

Posted June 10, 2014 1:45 am 


Drunk pom

@oz box.. Two different styles, you’re comment was pointless, go f”””” a koala

Posted June 10, 2014 1:41 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Roach fighters have a habit if three kd s in the first round

Posted June 10, 2014 1:29 am 


Ray

Guess a shot fighter not supose to do that huh? LOL roach has to play a part or what was it?

Posted June 10, 2014 1:24 am 


TARK

Hidalgo.., I thought potentially Martinez would look that bad actually.. If he looked substantially worse than he did vs Murray, I thought it could be a 1-round job.. I was hoping he was 100% like he said.. I didn’t really believe that..but I was hoping he was at maybe 70%… He was ZERO percent.

I believe Cotto let Martinez recover a little bit.. When you train for 3 months, sometimes you hate to end a fight in the 1st round … It’s like a horse barely getting out of the gate and getting yanked back.

Cotto got a good workout in… He boxed away… and beat the debilitated Martinez up as he pleased… It was fun… He was ladling out the punishment just enough so Sergio could remain a target for him to box rings around until he quit.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:22 am 


Ray

Cotto what a fight, Totally his best fight, the first round was unreal, 3 knock down in a row Guess that what hurt his fans most Total domination.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:20 am 


Ray

Where? Nope, guess that why your called the The Mad Mad Scientist Experiments along.

Posted June 10, 2014 1:12 am 


BEARS

guerrero was a 130 pound slow a$$ feather fist with flat feet Utter garbage. got a belly/ gut and fought fraud at 147 total engineered garbage. then guerrero fell offf the map cause the fight was a hoax. IF guerrero comes back he will be DESTROYED mark my words beating jason litzau and andre berto aint sh!t

Posted June 10, 2014 1:06 am 


The Mad Scientist

Is it just me or did anybody else noticed how Miguel Cotto’s win over Martinez and JMM ko victory over Pacquiao is somehow an accomplishment for Floyd Mayweather (according to his fans) ..Lol

Posted June 10, 2014 1:05 am 


Happyboy

Bears is an idiot.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:56 am 


Tojoe

Maidana and Floyd got 800-900 ppv it’s was released. Floyd was short, show time ate it.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:53 am 


Tojoe

Floyd dont get credit fighting Marquez, floyd was twice as big. What a cheater, robbing the jr weights. Ricky boy was another toddlers. But cotto beat the bully and get no credit wtf. Fraud fan boys are holding Floyd up.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:51 am 


BEARS

the only one whos game was off and fought out of character in canelo vs fraud was canelo.

if canelo beats lara its gonna be HUGE!!!

Posted June 10, 2014 12:45 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Floyd to greedy to fight cotto. 70-30 won’t cut it and considering maidana got 1.5 mill floyd will fight a bum to make cash. He doesn’t fight for legacy he fights for money

Posted June 10, 2014 12:43 am 


BEARS

cotto hinted* maidana drew the blue print complete. whenever i feel a little blue, i watch maidana woop fraud may’s a$$. my favorite is the left to the nuts then left to the jaw. PRICELESS!!!

i wish i could have that little clip as a screen saver on my phone. floyds face makes me ROFLMAO!!!

Posted June 10, 2014 12:38 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

GGG calls out floyd at 154 mayweather says I’m never fighting above 147 again. Now cotto wins 160 title all you fools want the fight. Hope he does fight cotto shows he was lieing about GGG and is a cat.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:37 am 


Auzbox

Manny destroyed cotto and delahoya floyd didn’t. Manny won every round against Moseley. Floyd didn’t haha

Posted June 10, 2014 12:35 am 


BEARS

the blue prints out on mayweather. cotto himted at it and maidana drew COMPLETE!! a cherry!!

canelo just did not have the stamina. canelo vs mayweather was weak on all fronts even the ammount of punches thrown was sad. that fight was ruined by the catchweight. both were grossly over paid for sh!t a$$ performance. if they were paid commensurately, actually, the fans should have been paid to watch the eye sore that was the anti climatic canelo vs fraud may

i blame team fraud for that. team fraud is probably gonna reach out to garbage guerrero for a rematch seeing how he is one of the worst fighters fraud ever faced. then reach out to kahn. and finish off with an early retirement or ask oscar out of retirement for a second time. team fraud is a fraud who has not even faced the best welters of the last three years! no way is fraud p4p1 or even number one ww.

the king of the ring. the toughest dude on earth is wlad klitschko. if fraud can beat him let me know lol.!!!!

hows that feel WARREN!!!?!?!

Can not sprinkle any nation of islam pride on that can u biatch? nuf said

Posted June 10, 2014 12:34 am 


Auzbox

Hardly cotto v PAC was a catchweight. Cotto was a 147 fighter and fought PAC at 145. Floyd made canelo fight 2 pound down also. SAME FOOL

Posted June 10, 2014 12:34 am 


teflon

Floyd schooled Canelo and Marquez easily Manny didnt. If Pac moves up he gets whopped easy…

Posted June 10, 2014 12:33 am 


enough already

Cotto need the winner of Canelo vs. Lara stick to 154, Floyd will school him again. Roach might convince him to fight Manny at a catch weight again with the help of Arum. But Cotto should not do it. GGG , Canelo both big fights for Migel…

Posted June 10, 2014 12:31 am 


Auzbox

Canelo could fight at 168 in the next few years bears I agree whole heartedly, he is only going to get better in the future. Not even close to his prime yet

Posted June 10, 2014 12:28 am 


Auzbox

Alvarez is 160. He can’t even fight Lara for his title at 154 he can only make 155. Great fight to be made. Makes me laugh everyone picks Martinez but as soon as he looses he is over the hill. Some of you are a laugh

Posted June 10, 2014 12:27 am 


BEARS

canelo takes out lara, moves up takes out cotto acquiring cotto’s titles, takes out quilin, then fights 3g or 3g moves up to take out ward or kovalev takes out ward.

talk about a christmas delight!!

Posted June 10, 2014 12:26 am 


LikeISeeIt

Cotto kept hurting Martinez with his left hooks and occasional rights. In the end, Martinez lost mostly because he could not get out of the way of those shots. Having hands down works with the guys he fought in the past, but not at the highest levels. If he had put his right hand up, it would have helped, but he could not make the adjustment. Also, Cotto appears to have taken his power up one level. I’ve never seen Martinez hurt that way..even against Pavlik. A fight with Alvarez is probably the money fight and I’m pretty sure Alvarez can make 160.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:04 am 


Golden Oldies

Pacquiao v Mayweather is the only fight out there for the older fighters, anything else is a rehash, like Leonard v Hearns 2 etc.

Posted June 10, 2014 12:03 am 


Tomato Can

chicago guy is back in full stride.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:57 pm 


Tomato Can

WTF??? lol

Posted June 9, 2014 11:56 pm 


Mike Tyson

Buster up knee or not the boy can dance, but why Dance if you can’t hit anything? Beat me.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:56 pm 


Mike Tyson

Sergio is a boxer as Floyd seem what maidana a pressure fighter can do? Well cotto was all come forward pressure all night, not hight output but control accurate combo punches that Sergio couldn’t block, his face was proof. But best dancer of the fight granted.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:50 pm 


Mike Tyson

It’s just as I said Martinez can handle pressure, that is why I said Bradley or PAC would kill him inside but all his fans said he too big ,size don’t win fight, punches do and both of them are the best insider fighter now. They would have tune Sergio badly.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:45 pm 


Mike Tyson

Jose Velazwuez. Martinez look like a ball room dancer than a fight that night he was afraid of cotto left hand, ever heard of using your arms to block punches and Counter? Nope he need distance but cotto would not give that to him.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:41 pm 


Golden Oldies

I said it, my granny could of beat Martinez, Cotto got there first.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:37 pm 


Mike Tyson

Logic is as cotto will give up the belt, when? After celebration maybe? Beause he said he decided to get a fifth title say he only interested in the title,
Why cotto should get 80% credit? Beause the bully got his a/zss handed back to him. Remember it was Martinez that been chasing cotto for years, talking all dish to piss him off. So cottt finally decide to fight him.

Sergio has chase Chavez, Floyd and PAC two weight below for years, saying he wanted PAC at150 lb and Floyd at 154lb well, you got what you deserve, Check the right side of his face eye shut and busted up, cut the other side. Its Because of that low jabbing hand. Cotto has both hands up and was blocking his punches.
And he dancing around needlessly wasted energyall night, cotto was a A-fight that night. But credit to sergio no excuses.

Posted June 9, 2014 11:36 pm 


The Mad Scientist

I said it from the beginning I wasn’t interested in this fight because of both fighters liabilities..only fanboys were gonna consider this fight a legit win for their guy,, in this case it was Cotto

Posted June 9, 2014 11:22 pm 


Auzbox

Good one Jose you would of thought he was going to loose pre fight now you bag him. Your a forum loser beat it

Posted June 9, 2014 11:08 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Father time caught up with Sergio Martinez in the 12th round of his fight with Chavez jr and it continued all the way until the end of his fight with Miguel Cotto

Posted June 9, 2014 11:07 pm 


Jose Velazwuez

How do you spell fraud. COTTO! He is the new middle weight champion of cripples. Cotto acted as if he hsd acomplishef something. He won over a guy that had no legs.
PC a side there is no glory beating a crippled fighter.
He has shamed past Puerto Rican champions. First five time CHUMP!

Posted June 9, 2014 10:59 pm 


Mile Tyson

All chatch weight fight belts should be returned after collecting the title . Floyd too . Both can’t defend it or he got robed. PAC gave his belt back. And these fight are about 60-80% cradit not ful . It’s just a challenge who would win between diffrents weights great fighters .

Posted June 9, 2014 10:40 pm 


Golden Oldies

The new fighters will beat these lot, the old fighters might as well as well cash at the end of their careers,

Posted June 9, 2014 10:31 pm 


Tomato Can

new weight??? Cotto weighed in at 155 instead of 154 or 153.5. There was no new weight for Cotto. Cotto is no MW.

Posted June 9, 2014 10:26 pm 


Drunk pom

Solomon wpts 12 cotto

Posted June 9, 2014 10:25 pm 


Auzbox

Roach is the coach!!!

Posted June 9, 2014 10:12 pm 


Your mama

Boxtradamus. Roach wanted Floyd from the Oscar days dumb- dumb. Nothing new. Not because he think he shot.

Posted June 9, 2014 10:10 pm 


Super***Champ

Before the fight I thought it should be a even fight because physically Martinez is not the same and Cotto is not mentally the same fighter . I was not sure if Cotto would be strong at middleweight and not sure if it was enough time with Roach to blend in for good prep to fight a championship level boxer of Martinez . Cotto is back and maybe better . Its possible Cotto was starving for a long time , if that’s the case ,he should been a middleweight long time ago and always thought Cotto holds back too much on his punching power , now starting to think he got full power from not starving at new weight .

Posted June 9, 2014 10:07 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd isn’t fighting cotto. Cotto is under arum as a free agent for december and floyd doesn’t work with arum. If he fights cotto it shows he is scared of manny

Posted June 9, 2014 10:02 pm 


hookoffthejab

Are we all a bunch of Monday morning experts ?….. Lol …

Posted June 9, 2014 10:02 pm 


hookoffthejab

great photo of Cotto & Trinidad …floating around …

Posted June 9, 2014 10:01 pm 


TARK

Hidalgo.., The way Martinez looked for this fight Cotto didn’t have to do much other than show up.. Sergio had nothing left.. He looked really bad versus Murray and I had him losing that fight 115-111.. I don’t expect Murray to do anything.

For this fight Sergio looked much worse… His 39 years, 56 fights, and his creeky body caved in on him all at once.

Often that’s how it happens… An aging fighter is pieced together with duct tape and chcken wire for a few fights, and then, for one last fight, he just grows old overnight … and everything falls apart at once.

Posted June 9, 2014 9:58 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

pfff martinez looks like a broken puppet lying there lol

Posted June 9, 2014 9:44 pm 


PEEJ

Doubt Floyd would ask for a Catchweight since Cotto weighed 155 for Martinez.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:45 pm 


Tomato Can

I hope not.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:21 pm 


Public Enemy

Most of you have forgotten that Mayweather and Cotto have a great business and professional relationship.. You’d better believe that Mayweather may be considering a rematch with Cotto for the Middleweight title at some catch weight.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:20 pm 


Tomato Can

Cotto’s lost before, so I don’t think he’ll have a problem facing Canelo at some point. I don’t think we can argue that Cotto didn’t make the right choice in grabbing the MW title off of SM.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:18 pm 


TARK

Cotto obviously knew that Austin Trout routed him easily but lost to Canelo Alvarez… That’s why he told Canelo, “No thanks, keep your 10MM.”

According to Freddie Roach, Martinez was a shot fighter, with shot knees, hands, shoulders, and reflexes.. Also.. they both knew a win over Martinez meant a lineal Middleweight Championship and an historic achievement by a Puerto Rican of winning world titles in 5 weight classes.

That could be leveraged into possibly 20 million with any luck.. A loss to Canelo got Cotto 10 million and no leverage at all.. When you have 2 paths to wealth you choose the one with the biggest overall payout.

Right now..? A rematch with Floyd is a distinct possibility.

Or defending against Canelo would be bigger than ever.

No one is going to ask “Where does GGG come in with all of this?” … They’re going to pretend Gennady doesn’t exist…

When Muhammad Ali’s team was negotiating a fight with Leon Spinks’s team nobody asked, “What about Larry Holmes? Shouldn’t he get a shot?”

Posted June 9, 2014 8:15 pm 


srminimo

Tomato Can- That’s the truth, my man. It’s all about the money in the end. And most of them lose it all, too.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:14 pm 


badger

Floyd owned canelo. it was a joke fight.

Posted June 9, 2014 8:05 pm 


hookoffthejab

Miguel Cotto is to stay away from Pacquiao, GGG, Canelo and Qullin and Floyd….

You would have to give a Cotto a better than even chance of beating Canelo ….Who has been proven to be limited in his ability……………Roach & Miguel could easily pick apart/ put together a game plan to defeat Saul …..Manny wont happen now …….. A fight with Junior is top of the list ….And Peter Q has not the balls to step up ….

Posted June 9, 2014 7:48 pm 


Rob

I dont think any of these idiots writing about tew fight even watched it. Cotto walked in the ring first and was announced first. Just like the challenger he was. Sergio was crying before the fight for nothing. The same way his fans are crying on this board right now. Lol

Posted June 9, 2014 7:41 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

I don’t know what Cotto is thinking, but the way I see it is that he should seek to fight Floyd at middleweight, but if that isn’t possible then fight Floyd at light middleweight. Cotto must demand a huge payday to fight Floyd. In other words, Cotto should not fight Floyd again unless he, Cotto, gets a fair share of the profits (if Pacquiao was worth 40 million to Floyd some years ago, then Cotto ought to be with that or close to that now).

Posted June 9, 2014 7:05 pm 


Hecdog

rjack58 my friend, I agree. Cotto has to figure out what he wants, and if Chavez Jr, is the chosen fighter, big money will come Cotto’s way. If it’s Canelo, again he will make lots of money. Both fights will be mano y mano, which will make for a fan friendly fight. I’m sure Roach and Cotto will plan it out wisely. I do think Lara is going to give Canelo major problems though. We’ll have to wait and see.

Posted June 9, 2014 7:00 pm 


badger

cotto is the lineal champ, but GGG is the real champ. canelo got battered by Floyd.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:38 pm 


badger

agree with the author Lee would bring $$.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:37 pm 


rjack58

SRed,

IF Canelo Alvarez is the ONLY BIG NAME fighter left in the Golden Boy Promotions stable (all the others with Al Haymon) then Cotto and Alvarez will get it on in the Fall after Alvarez KO’s Lara. Canelo WILL beat Lara badly.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:07 pm 


rjack58

Te Tumbo,

If Martinez’ legs didn’t heal after 3 surgeries and a year and a half out of the ring, they’ll NEVER HEAL. Martinez is probably FINISHED as a prizefighter!

Posted June 9, 2014 6:04 pm 


Tomato Can

srminimo, true, but another 10 million or so, will be too sweet for his bank account to pass up.

Posted June 9, 2014 6:02 pm 


srminimo

If Cotto were smart, he would retire today. Unless he can get a chance at fighting Floyd again (still wouldn’t beat him, but he’ll make it interesting again). After the 2nd Margarito fight, this is probably the sweetest victory in his career, he gets to leave on top, still young, and with money in his pockets. Like Te Tumbo said, there’s not a lot of places for him to go, and most make no sense anyway. Let Canelo fight GGG, if he gets past Lara…

Posted June 9, 2014 5:58 pm 


The Prince

Cotto has gained leverage, but not much for beating a clearly past prime Martinez who was ready to go. Cotto will likely go back down to 154 and try to face the winner of Canelo and Lara, or Floyd Mayweather again. However, Arum claims that Cotto’s next fight will be in December. So you can pretty much count Maywweather out. It will likely be against the winner of Canelo and Lara based on the dates between fights. I see Cotto and Canelo being a great fight. Both guys have similar styles, and they both fight at a high skill level. It will be the young lion vs the old lion for South American domination.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:57 pm 


Fan from the womb

The cotto martinez fight has been in the making for years. Cotto fights every year during the nyc puertorican weekend, the first week of june in nyc madisons square garden. Every year he has a fight during that time. He took a fight that made him the only puertorican to win a belt in 4 weight divisions. He fought someone with a name and took his belt. Great win for him, when he lost to trout it was an exciting fight, both fighters beat each other up. Trout also beat canelo, he was robbed. Overall cotto has been and still is a “A” grade level boxer.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:55 pm 


rjack58

HecDog,

I think that Cotto needs to surveil and plan his last two fights of his career carefully. I think Arum MAY be able to get Chavez Jr to bite once they resolve his promotional issues. Cotto is a very small middleweight, I don’t remember what his weight was on fightnight. Arum will probably get him Bryan Vera next.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:55 pm 


rjack58

Te Tumbo,

Martinez’ legs weren’t good for anything, ESPECIALLY SOCCER!

Posted June 9, 2014 5:48 pm 


Love-the-Sport

A lot of you guys are reading too much into the Cotto vs. Martinez fight.

The truth is … it is impossible to know what really happened.

Martinez is very weird in that he keeps fighting with reasonable coordination even if his knees go out.

Yuri Foreman had almost exactly the same issue against Cotto as well. When Yuri’s knees when out — Yuri could not stand. He was limping and hobbling. I actually think Yuri Foreman’s girlfriend through in the total in that fight.

Anyway, Martinez doesn’t do that. Martinez has reasonable coordination even when his knees go out — so the fan watching on television or in the arena can’t tell if Martinez is doing something heroic and fighting through tremendous pain or if Cotto is doing great.

I think the only think we can say for sure is that Cotto looked very wide and very strong, Cotto’s punches looked powerful, and that Cotto had surprising reach and extension given his small height. Therefore, Cotto can probably compete against anybody at 154-160.

But I don’t think we know that Cotto would be beat Golovkin, Quillen, Soliman, or Alvarez. I don’t think we know that yet.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:32 pm 


Hecdog

Miguel Cotto did what he had to do to beat Martinez. Martinez was obviously not the fighter he once was, and the inactivity, age and injuries only added to his decline. As far as Miguel Cotto is concerned, he put himself at the top again even though, IMO, he is not as good as he showed. I say this with all respect because he is a great fighter that has always taken on the best and has always been a class person, but the truth is he will have serious problems fighting fighters like Canelo, GGG, , Mayweather, Porter, Quillin and of course the legendary Manny Pacquiao. Cotto’s fight was a bit of an illusion. Was Cotto that good or was Martinez that bad? I think think it was both, but Martinez was only a shell of himself. Regardless, Cotto has now elevated himself as one of the top draws. His victory was a historic celebration for him inside what he calls his house (MSG). No one thought he could do it, but he did regardless of the circumstances. Where does Miguel Cotto go from here? He has plenty of choices, but we need to find out what his goal is. Does he want the big pay day against Floyd, Canelo GGG, Pacquiao or maybe he takes on Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. This is of course if Chavez Jr. can starve himself for 3 months and make weight. Miguel Cotto has options, but it comes down to what he wants most. If he decides to take on a monster like GGG, he will get a lot more respect, but he will get destroyed. GGG is a monster. Maybe he gives Martinez a rematch to prove once and for all that his win wasn’t a fluke. My advice for the great Miguel Cotto is to stay away from Pacquiao, GGG, Canelo and Qullin and Floyd. The rest he has a chance to beat, but not these guys.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:25 pm 


matthews

Somebody correct me if im wrong but this is Cotto’s first lineal title right at any division.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:23 pm 


te tumbo

not leveraging his own clout was Martinez’s own calculated risk. after the long layoff a spectacular KO of Cotto would’ve been the perfect entrance back into the active mix. during the pre-fight buildup, Martinez was essentially threatening to make Cotto pay for the B-side treatment. he was simply to rusty and broken down to deliver and finally fought like a soccer player trying to box. conversely, Cotto was thoroughly prepared, mentally and physically, to execute his fight-plan, which included thudding punching power that caught the rusty Martinez “cold” from too much time away from the ring.

Posted June 9, 2014 5:14 pm 


Love-the-Sport

I am hard on these authors when they write stupid things …

This was a well-written article.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:49 pm 


American Hero

Sergio ” the runner ” Martinez was never a great fighter. He ran and punched from different angles. That was his M.O.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:45 pm 


Tomato Can

lol, true even 154 punders are coming in as high as 172 these days.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:42 pm 


SREDMOND

I prefer the bout as well at 154 that said Cotto did not hit the limit so the notion that he would be handicapped by a 156 upper limit or something like that does not really fly… He defeated the Lineal Champ at 155 pounds, Sergio having the option of being 159…I think even if the limit were set at 160 Cotto would still come in under in order to be quick and avoid sluggishness…Despite his “cards”, 160 is a place where Cotto might get abused by lessor talents due to their bulk ie 6″0 172 or more on fight night Miguel should figure out how to make the most money and retire before someone does to him what he did to Sergio, same for Mayweather time is NOT a boxers friend..

Posted June 9, 2014 4:39 pm 


kato3388

DATRUTH – wasn’t making any excuses for Martinez. Anyone who saw the fight or saw his previous fights, saw how Martinez was hopping around.

If Martinez was hurt, he still manned up and took the fight and didn’t give any excuses. I am not making excuses but he was hurt.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:33 pm 


rjack58

Martinez paid for his arrogance and dismissive attitude towards Cotto.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:28 pm 


Tomato Can

I just hope we don’t hear about Mayweather fighting Cotto for the MW title in a catch weight fight. I’m sure this is being considered by both camps as we speak. It commercializes the sport way too much IMO. As it stands I can name several fighters that’ll beat or give them a run for their money in their respective divisions.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:26 pm 


rjack58

SRed,

Agreed 100%, but at middleweight is where Cotto holds ALL the cards, he’s the lineal 160lb champion. I could see them fighting Floyd at 155lbs with Floyd coming in under the contracted weight, they could fight Bryan Vera, or James Kirkland. But the BIG middles they’ll avoid to maximize Cotto’s middleweight run.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:26 pm 


Tomato Can

rjack58, I can’t argue with that. But Cotto offered him the next closest thing to Mayweather and Pacquiao. Cotto was a the chance at getting a huge name on his resume.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Rjack, I honestly don’t think Cotto is gonna spend much if ANY time at MW… We cannot forget he was getting manhandled at 154 by Austin Trout, I just don’t see the upside of him campaigning in that division… Clearly making weight is not an issue he was a full 5 pounds under the limit and 1 pound above 154… The payoff justified the risk against Martinez whereas Quillin and others who are naturally bigger are NOT gonna help Cotto sell PPV’s… Cotto rematching Floyd or facing Canelo guarantees him a min 12-15 mill paycheck… He will NOT face Pac Man because Manny is on record (his team is ) stating they don’t want him boxing above 150 and BOTH Canelo and Cotto have passed on moving down that far for little Pac Man who at this stage would probably either get bashed or sustain real damage at 154 AGAIN not physically suited or as defensively talented as an FMJ..

Posted June 9, 2014 4:20 pm 


rjack58

Tomato Can,

If facing Cotto is whom Martinez wanted he sure made a mess of it not exercising his LEVERAGE as the lineal 160lb champion, walking out first, introduced first, 159lb catchweight, and $1.5M payday compared to $7M payday for Cotto. I’m SURE Martinez could’ve held out for a $3M payday and being introduced last as is the tradition of boxing. His team did him a terrible disservice as well as he himself.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:19 pm 


Tomato Can

If GGG is legit, time will prove just that. There’s a lot of young talent that’s currently fighting at 154. These guys will provide more challenges, talent wise, than what GGG has grown accustom to seeing. If he doesn’t wait for those guys, then he can go up and sort out the 168 pounders.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:18 pm 


rjack58

SRed,
you are totally correct! Cotto will have to choose carefully whom he’ll fight next to maximize his run at middleweight. Don’t think they’ll fight GGG, Andy Lee, or any BIG middleweights! Cotto could possibly face Bryan Vera or maybe James Kirkland, but they’ll go for Mayweather cause like robbing banks “that’s where the money is”!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:15 pm 


Tomato Can

rjack58, to be fair both Quillin and GGG wanted Martinez as well. But once again, a little guy with a bigger name was Martinez’ best option. And Martinez was the best option for anyone seeking to fight for a MW title at this time. Cotto should get full credit though.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:11 pm 


rjack58

The only thing that could REALLY hurt Cotto is IF Pacquiao decides he wants to fight Cotto again, and forces Roach to make a choice who he will train.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:11 pm 


Albeziel

I know Golovkin is a strong fighter, but who has been the toughest opponent he has faced, or the fastest? Please don’t think that I am undermining his victories and I don’t think Cotto stand a chance but has GGG been really tested?

Posted June 9, 2014 4:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can, smart boxing fans know that Cotto is NOT physically suited to MW just like Roy Jones was not suited to HW they just don’t have the size (Roy more extreme disparity) that said we have a slew of posters who wanna get a SMALL WW like Mayweather in the ring with legit MW’s with the hope that SIZE and POWER will be able to do what skills cannot… I am pretty sure that if Floyd took a direct hit from Chavez Jr he would get floored, but I am pretty sure that if Chavez Jr was a WW he would not last 5 round with Floyd Mayweather due to the gap in skill… These rabid folks want that Lineal in GGG’s hands and they wanna brand Cotto a career MW in order to achieve their aims…

Posted June 9, 2014 4:09 pm 


DIK HEAD

i smell a TROLL,you stinks Anonymous

Posted June 9, 2014 4:09 pm 


rjack58

You gotta give Cotto CREDIT: Martinez was THERE for the TAKING and nobody stepped to him, not GGG, not Quillan, not Mayweather, not Pacquiao, ONLY Cotto took the chance and it PAID OFF for him. Now all of those fighters I just mentioned are going to have to BEND if they want to get in the RING with Miguel Cotto!

Posted June 9, 2014 4:06 pm 


Tomato Can

There’s not really a lower weight limit so technically a 147 pounder can compete for a MW title. However, this isn’t a wise move in most cases. So technically GGG could fight Froch, Chavez Jr. or Ward weighing in at 160 or 161. Does any one here recommend that?

Posted June 9, 2014 4:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, if Mayweather is such a “Fraud” then why do you sit around thinking up matchups for him? NO ONE in boxing calls him “a Fraud” including GGG who calls him the best in the sport and is trying to chase the little man for a payday.. Trainers, announcers and boxers AGREE that Floyd is the BEST operating in the sport you can call a guy who has been on the P4P list since the 90′s a “Fraud” all you want but the reality is that a YOKEL like you is NOT right and the rest of the boxing world wrong… You were SURE Canelo was gonna work over Mayweather and then when Floyd stuck his pecker in your crusty rear AGAIN you suddenly made 1000000 excuses for why a prime age boxer could not defeat a guy 13 years older than him… LOL

Posted June 9, 2014 4:01 pm 


los maricones

Sergio can go now and enjoy his dollars with his boyfriend in Spain.

Posted June 9, 2014 4:01 pm 


boxer

Murray was robbed in Argentardia, just as i predicted.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:59 pm 


DaTruth

Kato3388 – Knee Braces with Metallic struts are not allowed but Elastic Knee Supports are allowed and Sergio was wearing them.. Sergio had no problem with his knee’s he was running away from Cotto the entire night like an olympic sprinter.. like Delafishnets from Tito Trinidad.. Stop making Excuses for Sergio the Prima Donna..

Posted June 9, 2014 3:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Murray did NOT beat Martinez, how many fcking decisions are you gonna reverse in a week? AGAIN if you were SOOOO confident that Sergio was gonna lose you WOULD have said that, Tark declared himself at least I give your fellow simpleton credit for taking a stance whereas you could NOT make the call, AFTER the bout you suddenly take away from Cottos resounding victory and try to knock a PROVEN HOF fighter who accomplished something that FEW have, Championships in 4 weight classes.. You want us to respect GGG’s trinkets and the BUMS and C level guys he KO’s but you cannot understand the almost universal respect that Cotto enjoys after bouts with something like 17 World Champions including 2 ATG’s… You are really clueless and your stances shift like the wind…

Posted June 9, 2014 3:57 pm 


DaTruth

Kato3388 – what concessions? who entered the Ring first fight night? Cotto or Sergio? Cotto correct.. so stop being a Diva like Sergio.. making up Sht… Cotto is the A fighter and like Floyd and Paquiao is the one bringing in the Fans and $$$ So like Cotto, Sergio had to be flexible instead of throwing those hissy fits on the 24/7..

Posted June 9, 2014 3:56 pm 


rjack58

Floyd will want to fight Cotto for his middleweight title!! There’d be NO other reason for Floyd to fight Cotto other than the middleweight title which can be fought from from 155lbs to 160lbs!

Posted June 9, 2014 3:55 pm 


rjack58

If they fight GGG, they’ll make him come in a 155lbs and they’ll have a rehydration clause.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:53 pm 


DaTruth

rjack58 – Why would Floyd have to worry about making 160lbs when Cotto himself can only make 155lbs? the Cotto vs Floyd rematch will be at 154lbs not for any Middleweight title. unless these guys come up with some crazy catch weights that would give Floyd a shot at a Middleweight title.. who knows..

Posted June 9, 2014 3:52 pm 


rjack58

middleweight division is from 155lbs to 160lbs!

Posted June 9, 2014 3:51 pm 


Tomato Can

Cotto weighed in at 155 for this fight. He’s not fighting at a 160 pounds.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:50 pm 


rjack58

Cotto has to be very careful who he fights at 160lbs. He wants to maximize his run at 160lbs before retiring. Before the Martinez fight Cotto said he had 3 fights left, NOW there’s 2 fights left, so they will choose low risk/hi reward fights!

Posted June 9, 2014 3:47 pm 


Boxtradamus

And by the way Roach is a devout COWARD. His whole M.O. is to target SHOT Fighters. I no longer feel bad for him when Ariza kicked him in the CHEST. He’s DID exactly what Roach is doing which is targeting the HANDICAPPED. He now says that he wants to face Floyd next not because Floyd is the BEST…….BECAUSE HE KNOWS THAT HE’S SHOT. What a COWARD.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:45 pm 


rjack58

Whomever Cotto fights next he’ll be the A-Side, calling the shots and getting the lion’s share of the purse, unless it’s Mayweather or Pacquiao. Don’t think Pacquiao moves up to 155lbs to face Cotto, nor do I think that Roach would give that fight his blessings. They’re gunning for Mayweather and the BIG payday they can get fighting him. Mayweather will not have it as easy at 160lbs against Cotto, but I think Mayweather will still win and take Cotto’s strap. They’ll stay away from GGG because he won’t bring them Mayweather MONEY!

Posted June 9, 2014 3:44 pm 


Tomato Can

If GGG was truly interested in fighting at 154 he would be campaigning there. Besides there’s more talent at 154 than 160 anyway.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:42 pm 


Anonymous

any news of when floydie is coming to the uk.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:41 pm 


Boxtradamus

Murray got the feast first but didn’t know how to EAT.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:39 pm 


kato3388

Like the author said… Martinez lost the fight before he even entered the ring. He conceded to every Cotto demand, and the NYSAC forcing Martinez to relinquish his knee brace. If I remember correctly, didn’t Yuri Foreman have like a bionic knee brace when he fought Cotto?? I know I’ve seen fighters use knee braces before.

The first power shot that Cotto landed buckled Martinez’s knee. The fight was over since then.

I applaud Martinez for the way he handled the loss… Marquez could learn a thing or two from that….

Point is though, Martinez didn’t postpone or cancel the fight. A payday’s a payday, win or lose… he did what he had to unfortunately he lost.

No way am I diminishing Cotto’s triumph… I believe he would’ve won even if Martinez was healthy.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:36 pm 


BEARS

murray was the first to the feast get your facts strait son

Posted June 9, 2014 3:34 pm 


tommy

Anonymous – yes we know a black man is p4p #1 Floyd. I’ll send you a card on black history month.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:33 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Right just like Maidana is faster than a prime royJones who’s a light heavyweight.

Oh and by the way your name is old news I gave it up days ago so who the hell are you trying to being an impostor to now corny troll?

Posted June 9, 2014 3:32 pm 


BEARS

it does not matter how many divisions cotto has picked up trinkets in if he is not considered the best at the time in those divisions. i highly doubt cotto gets anyones vote as number one i am sure however 3g gets those votes and is the best. as i said 3g would take serg out and is number one. 3g would take cotto out.

yes i was not gonna just pick serg martinez to win. why would i? his body is broke and murray already beat him first. kinda like maidana (the cherry) beat fraud may.

i guess fraud and ellerbe better have a contract stipulation that says their opponents can not drink waterfor 3 before the fight until after the fight.

i mean anything the fraud team can do to get an advantage. they are sure ducking the plethora of good matchups and will take most likely little bum kahn or 140 pound littler garcia or B level cotto.

forget about the plethora of the “best match ups” frauds a fraud through and through and u shamefully ride fraud nuts 24/7 son. now thats pathetic

Posted June 9, 2014 3:32 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martinez with NO legs is a #0 P4P Fighter. I give credit to Cotto for being the first to the FEAST but there are a BUNCH of Fighters who would have eaten Martinez UP that night. Even Danny Garcia would have beaten Martinez that night and he is a 140 lber. The man couldn’t get out of the way of the left hook and he keeps his hands down which makes it WORSE. I am absolutely SURE than even Danny Garcia would have stopped him. But again PROPS to Cotto for being first to the lunchroom.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:31 pm 


Boxtradamus

I KNEW that Martinez’s Rubber DUCK Defense was going to get him in trouble when he faced anyone with SPEED. He just SO happened to face a WW/JrMW who has more SPEED than MW’s. Hands down!!!!! MAN DOWN!!!! I SAID it long ago and I was CORRECT. Martinez should retire or go take him a BOXING class.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:28 pm 


Tomato Can

Thanks again SREDMOND.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:26 pm 


Tomato Can

SREDMOND, you’re right. Cotto was spectacular, it’s too bad a lot of fans have a hard time recognizing great performances like that. And when it’s unexpected it’s even better. That’s the best part about boxing.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:25 pm 


tommy

Good for Cotto!!! I didn’t think Cotto had a chance in hell (if my ppl knew who I was I would be barred from my island for life LOL). I thought for sure SM had too much of everything for him prior to the fight. I agree Cotto has the bargaining chips now considering he beat the legit champ at that division. People can talk GGG or Kid Chocolate or whoever holds a belt in the MW Div but I never heard anyone of the belt holders attempting to negotiate with Martinez. If you have one please post it so I can get a read. As far as Martinez’s legs being shot, o excuse people. He knew what he was going in for. He could have postponed the fight or canceled it but he chose to deal with the pain (or at least try too) and he got his belt ripped from him. you sign a contract that means the best possible you needs to be in the ring point blank, if you can’t deliver, then you have a moral obligation to either come clean or get embarrassed. SM clear chose the latter of the 2. I find it funny that nothing is ever good enough for some fans. Consider that other than SM’s legs being shot he made no attempt to compensate. He fought with his hands down. Didn’t throw enough counter when Cotto gave him plenty of opportunity. SM’s hands seemed faster that night but he didn’t realize that Cotto packs a whop so he got taken. You all should stop hating. Cotto won fair and square, on the eve of the Puerto Rican Parade no less which makes for a happier Sunday.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can, I give you credit for picking Cotto outright before the fight and Miguel proving you right… That said I think that it was the complete way Cotto took Martinez apart that garners him this praise, the first round was a total nightmare for Sergio, he was NEVER allowed into the fight and Cotto’s power was rocking him which surprised me given the shots he has taken from Chavez Jr, Murray, Barker, Pavlik and Williams… The fact he STOPPED Martinez while stepping up in weight counterbalances discussions of Sergios condition to me… Again Good call on your part…

Posted June 9, 2014 3:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Cotto is a fighter the likes of which you know LITTLE about he is VERY well respected in the boxing community and BEFORE the fight you were “up in the air” about who was gonna win and you had been riding Sergios BALLS for at least a year NOW that Martinez got dispatched you are attacking Cotto as if he stole something, typical Bears and Tark Monday Morning Quarterbacks! Tark like myself felt Martinez had the edge due to his size and power the idea that Cotto OUTPERFORMED even the most lofty expectations is why people are giving him praise for his win…Your lust to see Golovkin at the top of the heap has blinded you yet AGAIN, fact is that he did not take that belt of Sergio COTTO did and thus the smaller Cotto is the man of the hour while GGG is still looking to book some wins against World Class Comp… Geale is a start but the standing you want so badly for Golovkin is not gonna come at the expense of the GREAT Cotto who is a 4 Weight World Champion whereas GGG is still living off knocking out Ishida, Ouma, Rosado and Macklin…

Posted June 9, 2014 3:16 pm 


Tomato Can

At 39 and injury prone, of coarse Martinez was past his best. However, that doesn’t take away the fact that Martinez was never as good fundamentally as Cotto. I was happy to see what Cotto was able to do this past Saturday, but none of us should expect him to hang around at 160. Cotto has earned himself another big payday, with a 154 pounder getting a shot at the MW title in a catch weight fight. It’s just a matter of who that fighter will be. Mayweather is his best option, if he can make that happen.

Posted June 9, 2014 3:14 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you were recently SWEARING that Mayweather needed to face Martinez and NOW suddenly Martinez was just a shot fighter? Do you recall your post before the bout where you said this was not necessarily a mismatch in favor of Sergio because of “many variables” NOW you are dismissing Cotto’s win because of your desire to orally pleasure GGG from the confines of your trailer… Dude you gotta stop with the FLIP FLOPPING…

Posted June 9, 2014 3:06 pm 


Jb221

Good win let him enjoy the moment weather he keeps the title or loses it in his first defense he is still the middle weight champ for now good win

Posted June 9, 2014 2:32 pm 


XYZ

This AUTHOR irritates me with his RANDOM capitals.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:27 pm 


Graeme

You must be American using such a childish derivative as Nut-Hugger. Please don’t try and use the second person adjective meaning of “your” to try and sound intelligent if that’s remotely possible for you.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:20 pm 


DaTruth

There’s no way on Earth that Cotto would accept a lower amount of $$$ vs Canelo who has done nothing special in Boxing.. No Fnnn way.. Keep dreamin.. also I’m sure that after the Cuban Lara humiliates Canelo, Canelo will be lucky to get a shot at a Cotto PPV maybe an undercard fight..

Posted June 9, 2014 2:16 pm 


DaTruth

Author – You do realize Cotto walked into the Ring first and without any big Hoopla vs Sergio.. You also realize Canelo made just a little over 1.5 Mill in his last PPV fight.. why on Earth would anyone believe Canelo would make $20 Million in any PPV? Canelo stock took a major plunge when he was humiliated by Mayweather for 12 rounds…

Posted June 9, 2014 2:14 pm 


E in Denver

Counting other people’s money doesn’t make you rich. This article is a rehash of the 24/7 with the use of hindsight. A, B C-side being announced 1st, 2nd or 3rd had no bearing on this fight. The number that mattered in this fight were 39 yrs vs. 33 yrs, 3 knee surgeries vs. 0 & 4 KDs.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:14 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

No doubt that Cotto hurt Martinez in the first round – anybody could see that repeatedly. And yes, Cotto won big time, but please don’t try telling me that Martinez wasn’t damaged good going into the fight (Freddie Roach said so himself prior to the fight). Once again, props to Cotto for accomplishing his goal, but let’s not pretend that Martinez’s knees were much better than those of a marionette (because that’s exactly what his right knee reminded me of every time he needed to use it).

Posted June 9, 2014 2:10 pm 


Graeme

The fact the way you mark every fighters past achievements against each-others and try to determine who is the Numero Uno just shows that you don’t know boxing and will never understand it properly if you cant appreciate each fighter for their own particular skill-set. Also name some A-Level fighters who Martinez and Golovkin beat please?

Posted June 9, 2014 2:08 pm 


BEARS

as i said any “A-level” fighter who is not c level from being past it is gonna smoke cotto. so im not lauding him with undue praise for performing a coup de grat on a shot martinez we were all already calling shot. murray beat martinez before cotto son.

3g is the best middle in the world the debates over

Posted June 9, 2014 2:04 pm 


Graeme

Bears your a moron

Posted June 9, 2014 2:02 pm 


BEARS

i never thought cotto was that great personally and i still do not. he beat past its mayorga, mosely, and now martinez. the tri fecta of past its.

his wins do not impress me and he got outboxed by trout and absolutley smoked and beat down by pac.

Posted June 9, 2014 2:00 pm 


Graeme

Bears are you american?

Posted June 9, 2014 2:00 pm 


BEARS

cotto vs martinez showed 3g is the best middleweight and has been while sracemonds been callimg sergio the best.

cotto’s a fake champ. as te tumbo points out almost any way he turns he is gonna loose. maybe he will take an easier bout against andy lee in december.

i would not doubt ideally he wants to give his title to fraud may so fraud may can be a fake champ of another weight division.

i wish serg could have just let 3g perform the coup de grat finishing move rather than cotto. guess he got a little bit more money for facing cotto

Posted June 9, 2014 1:55 pm 


Graeme

I really don’t understand how people can call Miguel Cotto a B-Side fighter he’s one of the most talented and entertaining fighters in the last decade and has fought against a who’s who’s of all the divisions he has campaigned at. He’s came up short against two of the all time greats and against Margarito
who’s devastating performance was questionable with the hand wrap incident looming over it. He reversed this loss with a brilliant box-fighter display his other loss was i think a Cotto fighting far below par against trout also trout is an awkward customer and some fighters just arent right for people.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:54 pm 


Edgar Guevara

There was risk for both fighters, Martinez had a bad knee, a bad shoulder, to many wars in the ring. Cotto on the other hand had to many wars, he was 1-2 in his last three fights lost 2 championships fights, 1st time trying the middleweight division. Martinez as a champion accepted less for reason of desperation probably, his promoter knew that was the last payday. He should had go for more money than that, knowing his fighter is the champion. No respect. Cotto in other hand knew, he was the man in New York. Come on! Puerto Rico half of the island is there. Cotto’s negotiation were well calculated by his Promoters and managers. Martinez shouldn’t never taken the fight after a knee surgery. But the underestimated Cotto’s power or Martinez was not physically fit for this fight. Martinez had fought bigger opposition than Cotto. How about Chavez-Cotto fight? Anyway that lesson here is heavy duty for Martinez, losing to a first time middleweight. Cotto became a Superstar, again! But for how long Martinez and Rodriguez had no business in the ring with Cotto. Rodriguez C+ fighter and Martinez damage physical was a D+ fighter. Cotto against a power house will like Martinez. He was bless winning the fight, good choice to have Martinez handicapped. Congratulion though good win. First defense of the middleweight, out.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:53 pm 


te tumbo

“As the lineal champion, Cotto will no longer have to TOTALLY acquiesce to the dictates of ANY foe he faces” after detailing all of the compromises former lineal champion Martinez conceded to collect the smaller payday? Team Cotto’s calculation$ earned them the 160lb-titles they wanted but what now? Cotto wants NO part of Canelo at any weight. he still can’t defeat the likes of Trout or Lara. he also won’t consider facing Golovkin or any other credible and marketable 160lb-contender. ultimately, Cotto’s “leverage” won’t be used to satisfy true fight-fans. only his ego and bank account.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:44 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

Great win.

Posted June 9, 2014 1:43 pm 



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