But they won’t make as much money… Like 102 million dollars in 9 months.Posted June 15, 2014 2:30 am
MMA is the best all around combat sport out there. MMA will kick boxing’s azz any day.Posted June 15, 2014 1:55 am
I love Boxing more than any other sport… however, Kickboxing is tougher to learn… and MMA is much tougher to learn than Kickboxing.
An MMA player tries to master everything a boxer or kickboxer does—with much smaller gloves… The gloves are tiny.
Plus he has to learn wrestling… throws… submission holds… escapes… drops… knee and elbow striking techniques… The superman punch… and other exotic attacks and defenses..
It’s a lot of stuff to learn… It’s a long training day. You’re better off as a boxer — but some guys love the challenge of trying to learn that much, taking greater risks with their health … and not making nearly as much money as a boxer.
Chris Algieri decided at age 23 that the smart thing was to switch to boxing… even though people told him he was “too old.”Posted June 15, 2014 1:29 am
Useless discussion. Provo could not close the gap on a moving boxer and Freddy failed to correct that weakness on Provo. Tonight is the Provo I have seen many times on ESPN. A guy that plods ahead looking to land that one blow. There is no way Provo would have won against Manny Pacquiao who can box and punch. And speaking about kickboxers who regularly get hit on the head by round house kicks, did Provo really think he could KO Algieri with one left hook? Kickboxers and MMAers are tough MTFKS and boxers better start accepting that.Posted June 15, 2014 1:19 am
whether kickboxing is “tougher” than boxing is a debate no-one can really answer. but boxing is undeniably more beautiful to watch. infact I find muay thai an ugly sport to watch. horses for coursesPosted June 14, 2014 11:45 pm
Prov. a pure slugger. easy dominate another boxer . A Knock down not surprising . Too high work rate. Points factor too.
practises *Posted June 14, 2014 9:51 pm
its not the “style” of fighting but the person that counts . kicks elbows are all nice , but if ive knocked you out before you can do any of that .. what good was it in the first place .. I dont fear the man who practises 10,000 techniques .. I fear the person who ONE technique 10,000 times .Posted June 14, 2014 9:51 pm
sean p h
I dont understand what you guys dont get. How can someone that only throws and block punchs beat a fighter that uses fists elbows knees kicks and sweep. They cant in a real fight. Again thats why boxers box cause its much safer and secure they dont do mma cause its far more dangerous and the ref dont constantly break up when it gets ruff.Posted June 14, 2014 9:32 pm
sean p h
Boxer punchs. Kickboxer kicks knees elbows forarms leg sweeps.Posted June 14, 2014 9:26 pm
Not in a real fight like mma. Kickboxer kills a boxer plain and simple.Posted June 14, 2014 9:24 pm
complete fighting style on paper you may be right ? Though the person makes the style of fighting there are thai style fighters who tried there hand at boxing and were successful .Though when they fought at the elite level they got beat upPosted June 14, 2014 8:33 pm
sean p h
I repeat again peej. Kickboxing is a more complete fighting style period. Anyone with any experience should know that.Posted June 14, 2014 8:30 pm
sean p h
Peej. Like when toney challanged randy and got his ass beat in one round? OPosted June 14, 2014 8:28 pm
Now that Roach is sweet with a match up with Manny WAR !!Posted June 14, 2014 7:12 pm
Provo walked straight through Alvarado ,beat him with raw Power and heart. Messed up Bradley bad this guy may be one demesional………but thats it all it takes for him. cruel Power and love a war…….prov KO 3-5 roundsPosted June 14, 2014 6:58 pm
I don’t know this Algieri. From what I’ve read in-between the usual sniping is that he possesses decent skills and some think better than Provo. However the majority think that Provo will eventually steamroll over the top. Algieri looks strong and confident from the pictures, is he a chance? Provo, although a crowd pleaser, is not even close fundamentally to a perfect fighter.Posted June 14, 2014 6:33 pm
Algieri would beat Provo …. in muay thaiPosted June 14, 2014 6:02 pm
provo should ..chalenge the clown of broner on national tv….and lets see what excuse he would make upPosted June 14, 2014 4:59 pm
Tark “It’s like getting divorced and remarried”
Are you talking from experience?Posted June 14, 2014 4:43 pm
KOrnerman says.., “Tark sir I disagree, kickboxing isn’t tougher than boxing”
Disagree all you want … but you have to perfect both kicks and punches for Kickboxing—and learn how to defend both. Punching is natural for any athlete. Some of the kicks you have to learn take a much longer time to master. You work on them fanatically for hours.
Money isn’t the biggest motivator for a lot of people. You’ve probably made decisions in your life that cost you financially—but you had your own reason for making them.
Once you’ve learned some hard won skills it’s hard to give them up to do something that only makes sense—because it’s more financially rewarding. You tend to believe in the sport you were brought up with—and were indoctrinated in… It’s almost like religion.
You do have converts… It’s like getting divorced and remarried… only harder emotionally.Posted June 14, 2014 4:34 pm
Algieri has some decent skills that could spring the upset only if he can handle and embrace the pressure of being in his first big fight and handle the relentless attack from a strong puncher like Provodnikov. Ruslan is a mentally tough fighter that breaks you down mentally and physically. He comes to fight. and as he says, he doesn’t like guys running, but he trains for them. Algieri IMO is going to hit Ruslan quite often, but I’m not sure he has a big enough punch to hurt the Siberian Rocky. Ruslan comes only one direction, has no defense and will take punches. Algieri is a bright guy outside the ring. He has to be even smarter inside against Ruslan. He has to be the real ROCKY in this fight because no one is giving him a chance. Ruslan has a lot of experience, and loves to fight especially when the tough gets going. Algieri has nevr fought anyone like this guy, but the smarter fighter sometimes beats the tougher fighter. Algieri has to get through the first five rounds in order to have a chance. If he does, look for the upset.Posted June 14, 2014 4:32 pm
I figured someone would bring up Vatali. That’s true. There’s 1 guy, who else?Posted June 14, 2014 4:12 pm
NEW BLOOD = SQUARED BRAIN
!Posted June 14, 2014 4:10 pm
Aligeri is the best pure boxer i’ve seen comming from a kick boxing back ground.Posted June 14, 2014 3:44 pm
Many DIDN’T get blasted as well… Vitali Klitschko spent years as a kick boxer.
Vitali knew he could make many millions as a boxer, but never even make a million as a kick boxer… That’s the main reason most highly successful kickboxers switch to Boxing… It’s the money … and they stopped getting kicked in the head.
Plus… they stop smashing up their legs and feet… That’s a bonus.Posted June 14, 2014 3:44 pm
Ruslan did not take the easy road to a title win, he won on shear heart, will and determination.
Ruslan forced a title win with very little of the sweet science and a ton of grit.Posted June 14, 2014 3:42 pm
Many kick boxing champs have tied boxing, and got blasted out if the sport by journeymen boxers.Posted June 14, 2014 3:29 pm
Never seen this guy fight before so I am going with Ruslan. But read Breadmans pick off if boxing talk who gets the right most the time and he is picking Algieri by decision. So guess I will see what happens tonight. I actually get to watch the fight live instead of on DVRPosted June 14, 2014 3:25 pm
People who do MMA and kickboxing, 9 times out of 10 can’t make it as a boxer. If you could make it as a boxer then you would box. There is more money in boxing than any other fighting sportPosted June 14, 2014 3:23 pm
sean p h
Lol. Kickboxer changing to boxing cause boxing is a more complete style? Lmfao! Boxer change to kickboxing cause its a more complete fighting style. I switched from boxing to kickboxing because boxing is so limited. Again thats why you see kickboxers in mma not boxerd.Posted June 14, 2014 2:35 pm
sean p h
Prov by ko.Posted June 14, 2014 2:31 pm
sean p h
Kickboxing is a much tuffer sport period. Knees kicks elbows punches and take downs. Boxing just punches. kicks are twice as powerful as punch and can be delivered many more ways. Front kick rounhhouse sidekick spin kick just to name a fiew. Flying knees are devasting. Elbows hurt far more than punchs. Thats why boxers dont do mma cause that cant take the pain.Posted June 14, 2014 2:29 pm
Provni KO rnd 6-9Posted June 14, 2014 2:22 pm
Tark sir I disagree, kickboxing isn’t tougher than boxing, more complicated because they kick but no other athlete is tougher than a boxer because of the punishment a boxer can give and take is more than any kickboxer getting kicked in the head and getting KO’d,at least your out cold fast then and not really taking much punishment ,
lawyer/scum is an oxymoron??
Posted June 13, 2014 11:18 pm
^honest lawyer = oxymoron; lawyer/scum = synonym
ESB English 101Posted June 14, 2014 2:11 pm
Algieri is a good athlete, but This is a premature matchup… Chris is tough, strong, fast, smart, and has decent power – but no amateur background and only 20 fights. Ali fought Liston when he had 19 pro fights – but Ali had 108 amateur fights, Algieri has zero and that’s a problem.
He had 20 kickboxing matches. That’s a tougher and more complicated sport, but way different from Boxing. Algieri had to change his stance and unlearn a massive amount.
He could possibly score an upset, but he ought to round out his skills before taking on a puncher of this caliber. If he were facing Khan or Bradley he would be fine. He would go the distance and learn a lot…
Provodnikov could possibly derail his budding career so he’s the wrong guy for a green guy with his skill level. We’ll find out how tough Algieri is for sure. We know Bradley is tough as nails … and he got hurt.
With 5 more fights and Algieri would beat Provo. Opponents such as Judah, Soto, Vargas, Herrera, Raheem, Alvarado, lundy, and Peterson would give him the defensive skills he needs.Posted June 14, 2014 1:44 pm
RUSLAN. always good value.Posted June 14, 2014 12:41 pm
Time to leave Bears to stew in his own bile. We know you whup him Monday-Saturday and twice on a Sunday. That dude Bears must be butt raw. He’s like a little chihuahua, yapping at your feet, hut no one really knows, nor cares what he has to yap. A swift kick in the trap should sort out his yap. Don’t do yourself down debating with that idiot. He’s a waste of column inches.Posted June 14, 2014 12:25 pm
Just so you know
Good spot. Bears ties himself up in his own traps. What an idiot he is.Posted June 14, 2014 12:21 pm
agree pat russel is incompetentPosted June 14, 2014 12:16 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Ruslan looks to be in great shape…I expect an excellent fight and Ruslan by early to mid stoppage….Posted June 14, 2014 12:11 pm
Chris won’t be able to hold off Ruslan. KO by Provodnikov.Posted June 14, 2014 11:28 am
Bears will allege corruption, ineptitude outright insanity or ANYTHING else if he does not like the fighter who won or the result it’s a running JOKE.. He likes to preface his overruling decisions with “I looked at the tape and rescored the fight this or that” ALWAYS in favor of his guy!! What a surprise! He is also VERY liberal in his use of the term “smoked” which should connote a slaughter or lopsided fight ie Cotto vs Martinez or Pacquaio vs ODH, whereas this bonehead will say “Maidana smoked Mayweather” when that’s in such stark defiance of the action it’s a serious joke..There are some well known robberies or controversys on boxing ie Lewis vs Holyfield I or Pacquaio vs Bradley I where sentiment is overwhelming (Lara vs Williams also) Bears sees theM ALL the time!! I have no clue why he watches boxing when his guy losing is NOT an option..I remember when Garcia beat Matthysee Clearly (I thought Matthysee would win) Beard wanted a rematch and basically just invalidated the win… He was MAD when the ref gave a Champ of Bradley’s stature the chance to continue in that first round against Provo instead of stopping the fight and handing Provodnikov Bradley’s belt… This guy cannot accept a result he does not like without excuses, equivocations and conspiracies he’s not a fight fan, just a low life HICK with a TV..Posted June 14, 2014 11:18 am
I think even gonzo would approve of the schooling I just laid down to our resident muppetsPosted June 14, 2014 9:43 am
largo “anyone who tips prov should be ashamed of themselves”. largo my man, as you are the only ESB reg’ who tipped Bradley to KO pac, are you sure you should be saying things like that? I mean really, come on, your credibility isn’t just in the toilet, it is down in the sewers, floating around amongst a river of s.hit, vomit, used condoms and aborted foetusesPosted June 14, 2014 9:41 am
oracle/boxtradamus – you tit, when will you learn? when you leave just a few main words at the end of your statement in capital letters, you betray the fact that it is really you, along with the fact that you praise boxtra (yourself), and as nobody on earth likes boxtra, but boxtra, again this is more evidence. Time to head back down into mama’s basement, think of a new name, and once again return with renewed vigour to your life long pursuit of convincing yourself you are not a loser (which you are)Posted June 14, 2014 9:37 am
Provodnikov will demolish Algieri.
KO round 5Posted June 14, 2014 9:29 am
Oracle of Boxpollo
Good morning. Today is the dawn of a new era. I decided to do my announcement a day early and early in the morning to minimize the imposters doing fake announcements. Now to get the obvious out-of-the-way. I am not Boxtradamus and not any of these imposters that have wrongfully tormented this man. Boxstra has actually learned a lot of his greatness from me as he was a student of mine that led me to this great site.
I have a true gift of accurately predicting flights. I am not the greatest fight prophet ever born because I was never born but rather I have descended down to show everyone the gifts you will see in the upcoming months and years.
Just like any great oracle or prophet of their timeI expect a lot of ridiculing to me as well as people falsely posting under my name. But please understand Unlike my student I will not get involved with the bickering or defending because it’s simply beneath me. I will do nothing but accurately pick fights when they are announced and stick with it. In the rare times where a fighter did not take my advice or lost for some other strange reason I will admit wrongdoing and move forward.
Thank you everybody and I look forward to a new era of fight predicting on this site.
I am the ORACLE of Boxing. inspired by the Boxing Gods and granted foresight into the FUTURE.Posted June 14, 2014 9:24 am
Ruslan looks like he might kill that poor dudePosted June 14, 2014 8:53 am
If that wasn’t a Provo knockdown of Bradley in round one, just what was it? And yes, Bradley went down a second time (without being hit again). Referee Pat Russell clearly denied Provodnikov the first round knockdown of Tim Bradley. Either it was incompetence or corruption by Pat Russell.Posted June 14, 2014 7:17 am
Come on man, Provo is a very strong fighter with a hell of a punch, but he’s beatable. And those of is who know how to score a fight know that Bradley beat him, even though he was hurt throughout the fight…Posted June 14, 2014 7:04 am
Just so you know
Bears you truly are a moron. You have rewrote the records personally saying that Provodnikov beat Bradley but on another thread you are criticising Mayweather for not fighting Bradley. Why is it that Mayweather should be fighting someone who in your mind has lost 3 of his last 4 fights? That would be the 2 Pacquiao fights and the Provodnikov fight in case you have forgotten your own rambling.Posted June 14, 2014 6:40 am
BEARS = idiot
Arturo Gatti vs Joey Gamache 2Posted June 14, 2014 3:50 am
algieri is said to be a good boxer,i’ve seen him a little. i just think provodnikov is a destroyer t this point in the game. i want to see danny garcia vs. provdikov next,given provodikov wins.Posted June 14, 2014 3:38 am
largo, you have it backwards.tim bradley was the one who was gifted with a win against provodnikov. its o.k. to be jealous. after he beats algieri,bring on garcia.Posted June 14, 2014 3:33 am
bradley is provodnikovs biggest wins for people who watched provo vs bradley and know how to score a fight.Posted June 14, 2014 3:30 am
PEEJ- he did not fight molina he fought herrera. and he beat herrera and bradley. max kellerman kept saying “another 10-8 round even without a knockdown” i think so too. i scored 4 10-8 rounds for provodnikov in his bout with bradley.
provo won by points and tko’ed bradely in the first round.
first round provo knocked bradley down and bradley popped back up and then proceeded to do a reversal into a face plant for a second knock down. the ref did not rule any knockdowns. lol
but you do need to get your facts strait PEEJ. thank you in advancePosted June 14, 2014 3:29 am
provodnikov is a beast!!!
he is gonna destroy this dude!!
i wish they would feed guerrero to him!!!Posted June 14, 2014 3:22 am
Poop Packing Rainbow Boy
Provo by suck ” U ” lant stoppage !Posted June 14, 2014 1:21 am
Anybody predicting Provo to win should be ashame of themselves…what else could happen in a f’n mismatch?Posted June 14, 2014 1:10 am
Bradley was one thin human hair about to stop Provo but this Algiery guy can’t hurt a 90 years old lady with his best right hand…this is a waste of our time.Posted June 14, 2014 1:05 am
the Russian by KO7Posted June 14, 2014 12:55 am
Chairman of the Board
Provodnikov is one third humanzee. He has the strength and power beyond ordinary human being.. He is in fact been bred for optimum performance.Posted June 14, 2014 12:51 am
Chairman of the Board
Like Obama, Chris will be afraid to engaged the Russian if the tough gets going.Posted June 14, 2014 12:43 am
Poop Packing Rainbow Boy
I like Provo I think he’s cutePosted June 14, 2014 12:25 am
Ruslan should really have 1 loss. He beat Molina and the Bradley fight was close . If Ruslan didn’t push Bradley down in the 1st round I believe he would of wonPosted June 14, 2014 12:03 am
lawyer/scum same thing.Posted June 13, 2014 11:18 pm
lawyer/scum is an oxymoron??Posted June 13, 2014 11:18 pm
eugh you sound like a fng lawyer scum.Posted June 13, 2014 11:17 pm
Prov. is a killer. should be good scrap…Posted June 13, 2014 9:49 pm
Should be a pretty easy runout for Prov inside 6 rounds.Posted June 13, 2014 8:40 pm
Provodnikov is going to bash this guy up!Posted June 13, 2014 8:03 pm
isn’t it a bit premature for Ruslan to be carefully matched-up? the guy already has two losses on his record and Alvarado is the biggest name in his win column. in boxing’s deepest division, only Roach struggles(?) to confirm competitive matchups for his fighters.Posted June 13, 2014 7:52 pm
Chris is a tidy boxer…..keeps his hands up well and defends well to the body ….I can see Provo smashing through the guard of the American …And ending it early ….Posted June 13, 2014 7:48 pm
Algieri better be good; his record looks nice in paper but he has never fought anyone remotely relevant. I think Ruslan is going to eat him alive. KO within 5 (or upset of the year).Posted June 13, 2014 7:19 pm
look @ the knuckles on provo, wow. sh!ts be poking out.Posted June 13, 2014 6:57 pm
Provo 3 RDS KOPosted June 13, 2014 6:30 pm
Provo by KO.Posted June 13, 2014 6:12 pm
Both look ready, but Provo has the eye of the tiger. I’m reluctantly backing out of my Algerie for the win. I haven’t seen enough of him and Provos punches are lethal.Posted June 13, 2014 5:55 pm
provoPosted June 13, 2014 5:35 pm
Certainly has the fearsome factor, very intrigued to see this career develop.Posted June 13, 2014 5:19 pm
Damn Provo looks RIPPED! that’s a nightmare opponent no questionPosted June 13, 2014 4:58 pm
excellent fight, make sure you watch and support these fightersPosted June 13, 2014 4:27 pm