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Anonymous

thank god for herman and his little brother.

Posted June 23, 2014 4:05 pm 


Anonymous

SLIM, “@Anonymous…your realist misguided idiot. You forgot Frazier, Norton…

Those guys beat Ali.

Frazier beat Ali with an enlarged heart and suffering from high blood pressure. Norton was an clumsy swinger who got knocked out all the time. He beat Ali up and broke his jaw.

Posted June 23, 2014 3:57 pm 


Anonymous

lol

my posts have vanished!!!

Posted June 22, 2014 5:32 pm 


Hamburg

At least all posts of troll Anonymous are deleted too. Looks like he got banned. Good.

Posted June 22, 2014 3:09 pm 


Hamburg

Had a debate with a troll Anonymous from boxing news about racism today.

I criticized this site harsh for all the racist posts and now all my posts are deleted, even my harmless posts

“ I live in Hamburg, i’m happily married to a white woman
and we had never experienced any real racism. Gratful for that. “

“ Muhammad Ali was an amazing athlete, he made boxing the huge world sport it is today!
The best performance of Muhammad was against George Foreman. “

i am done with this site.

Hafidh

Posted June 22, 2014 2:23 pm 


SLIM

I’m not speaking for Germany my friend, just over here in the U.S…also not down talking the Klits. Just their competition. Have a nice day!

Posted June 22, 2014 3:47 am 


SLIM

No fool…the past is what paves the way for the future. Nobody cares about them Klits! They ain’t fighting NOBODY. 63-3-50Ko’s. Lol. Not one “Hall of Famer” on the whole list. Their best opponent to date is David “TOE” Haye…GTFOH! Lol

Posted June 21, 2014 8:50 pm 


turbo hamster on tequila

American fans should have a real think about where their info comes from. US tv sells you a product and that product is yank or yank based fighters. They can only do this if you believe they ate great. SoAmerican networks are in the business of hyping Americans. Likein anchorman 2 where the news is no longer news just America is awesome.
but when someone like the k’s just dominate so much they have no choice but to denigrate an entire era to try to sell you the past.

Posted June 21, 2014 6:26 pm 


Anonymous

shame that most people on here are 21 year old american idiots.

Posted June 21, 2014 6:01 pm 


SLIM

@Anonymous…your realist misguided idiot. You forgot Frazier, Norton, Shavers, Liston, Foreman, Lyle, Ali was the man you stupid moron. Have nice day!

Posted June 21, 2014 5:43 pm 


Anonymous

nope, i’m a realist

Posted June 21, 2014 5:34 pm 


D

“floyd would beat Porter just as easy as he would beat Bradley. But Bradley would sell more tickets”

that’s stupid. punchers sell tickets. powderfuff hitters like bradley don’t

Posted June 21, 2014 5:17 pm 


Anonymous

“ali made boxing the huge world sport it is today!”

by fighting bums like coopman, evangelista, leon spinks, lubbers, dunn, wepner, mathis, et al, ali brought supreme boredom to the sport. luckily atg’s larry holmes and mike tyson started ramping the excitement back up in the 80’s.

Posted June 21, 2014 5:08 pm 


Anonymous

FAKE TARK below, boring ass bastard

Posted June 21, 2014 5:00 pm 


SLIM

@Anonymous…Floyd offered Pac 40M to take that May 5 fight, he was not his own boss and couldn’t accept it. He went on and got knocked out by Marquez for less money and lost his financial leverage. Him and Arum should have took that…but they didn’t. Pac can’t sht without asking Bob Arum how hard. WTF!!!!

Posted June 21, 2014 5:40 am 


Anonymous

Hey D, Floyd would beat Porter just as easy as he would beat Bradley. But Bradley would sell more tickets for the Money team. Bradley is a underrated fighter he made Pac look bad in the first fight.

Posted June 21, 2014 5:27 am 


turbo hamster on tequila

Holyfield was a drug cheat. His hw career is invalid

Posted June 21, 2014 5:08 am 


D

arum isn’t stopping a damned thing. floyd is stopping any risky fights, with any young gun, who can box and punch exceptionally well. that is not a discription which fits tim bradley i think we can all agree.

floyd would go for a bradley fight in a heartbeat, but that would be another boring fight like mayweather v judah. a porter fight would be better and damned good. i hate no drama fights. bradley didn’t even prove he could box with pacman, and floyd is a better pure boxer than pac. tim can’t punch. you have to throw real heat to beat floyd.

Posted June 21, 2014 3:04 am 


Anonymous

I would buy Fraud and Bradley. You’re right slim the Russian hits way harder than Fraud too; but Arum won’t allow it he is stopping all the good fights!! Greedy Jew

Posted June 21, 2014 12:42 am 


SLIM

@Tark…Bradley is not a bum though. You saw him survive in there with Prov. He should have been dead, FM doesn’t hit near that hard. He has more credibility than Brook too…he fought Pac twice, I know he lost but that’s his only losses. Cats would buy that fight think…

Posted June 21, 2014 12:34 am 


TARK

I don’t think Bradley is good enough… because he doesn’t defend well enough — or punch hard enough.

But if Floyd fights Lara… Porter… Thurman… Brook… or even Pacquiao… it’s going to be one HELL of a fight.

Those guys are fast, skilled and strong.. They’ll go get Floyd.. They ain’t waiting for him — although Lara can wait… He’s got great range and countering ability… He can crack from long range.

Posted June 20, 2014 10:58 pm 


SLIM

@Tark…much as I hate to do it. I’m gonna agree with you on that! If he fights Pac, Porter, Thurman, Bradley, Lara. Not Brook he’s not near big enough name. Then his legacy is in tact…but if he doesn’t the boxing fans will never forget it…

Posted June 20, 2014 7:33 pm 


TARK

Floyd will be OK if he fights Lara… Porter… Thurman… Brook… or Pacquiao.

If he fights one of them it will be good. Unless he gets his ass kicked badly. They’re better than anyone he had a chance to fight before.

Posted June 20, 2014 6:32 pm 


belly

get rid of anonymous crap posts, right now!! hey bugaboo

Posted June 20, 2014 6:12 pm 


Anonymous

Where’s the webmaster? — Get rid of these crap posts

Posted June 20, 2014 5:55 pm 


Exposed

The Anonymous zzzzzzzzZZZZZZZZzzzzzzz man is SREDMOND guaranteed.

The blithering idiot used to do that all the time under his main nick.

Posted June 20, 2014 4:31 pm 


TARK

Boxrec ranks almost 19,000 professional boxers… In the mid 1970s Ring Magazine did a comprehensive rating of all registered professional boxers worldwide… and found fewer than 5,000 professionals.

So there’s 4 X as many active professional boxers today as the 1970’s — more than at any time since the 1930’s when we experienced the Great Depression — and a global recession. There were said to be over 20,000 professional boxers at one point during the ’30s at the height of the Great Depression.

90% of the ’30s pro fighters were concentrated in the Americas and the UK… The world had half the population in those days and many countries didn’t have the setup for professional boxing… especially Iron Curtain countries where a lot of good professional boxers come from today.

There’s just a much greater talent pool today.

Posted June 20, 2014 4:18 pm 


Anonymous

on boxrec, the home of bias

Posted June 20, 2014 3:51 pm 


Anonymous

back in the day the sports papers would call these guys bums.today they call them heavyweights.

Posted June 20, 2014 3:37 pm 


laj

Anybody who signs on as anonymous is not worth a response. Be real don’t be scared, you are already safe being a keyboard warrior.

Posted June 20, 2014 3:25 pm 


Jeff

Wladimir doesn’t have the same opportunities to fight hall of famers and all time greats as boxers from lower divisions do thanks to the scarcity of weight divisions surrounding his own.

It’s not like he’s ducking all these great fighters and potential great fights that are out there for him like a Floyd Mayweather does.

He’s only fought in one division for his entire career and he only has a limited choice to choose from.

Realistically he can only fight fellow heavyweights or cruiserweights who’ve moved up.

Floyd Mayweather has fought in 5 weight classes.

Those weight classes and the ones surrounding them were loaded full of great fighters and legacy building great fights for him to prove himself against but he’s ducked almost all of them when they were in their primes

Posted June 20, 2014 2:47 pm 


laj

Hi Slim perhaps, but there was nothing in the performance to indicate he was out of shape. He was getting knocked around the first few rounds, so of course he was out of breath. the definition for getting knocked out is a lack of oxygen to the brain.

Posted June 20, 2014 2:07 pm 


SLIM

@laj…Hey well at least im not just overstating the weight of the Klits huh?? Lol!

Posted June 20, 2014 2:00 pm 


SLIM

@laj…yeah you’re right. He did come in at 256lbs. which at the time they was the heaviest he had weighed. So they assumed he was out of shape??…

Posted June 20, 2014 1:57 pm 


SLIM

C.J. Ross was a paid off crook…

Posted June 20, 2014 1:49 pm 


laj

Hi Slim, he came in at 256.5, which was only 3 lbs heavier than his previous high. In addition you do not get stronger as a fight goes on if you are out of condition. That is just fantasy land.

Posted June 20, 2014 1:44 pm 


SLIM

@laj…it’s been a long time but if I remember correctly they said he was out of shape because he came in weighing 265lbs, which was over his usual fighting weight by 20 or so lbs. Have a nice day.

Posted June 20, 2014 1:24 pm 


The Facts

SREDMOND, I would say Lewis is probably better than both Klitschkos, but Wlad is making a good case for himself. All a man can do is win and be the best of his era. For a heavyweight to stay on top for as long as WK has is impressive. Corrie Sanders was a good southpaw HW, very dangerous when on form, but didn’t have the drive to be great. Lamon Brewster was getting pounded in the first Klitschko fight, but stayed in there and somehow got the win. I feel Wlad was not 100% right that night for whatever reason, whether he was ill or not..but Lamon Brewster won. Brewster proved himself a decent HW for a couple of years. Some Klitschko fans over rate them, true. Others under rate them just as much. Good discussion.

Posted June 20, 2014 12:59 pm 


laj

Bill Patrice Jones, and all you others that say LL was out of shape. How can you say that and at the same time say he was coming on in the later rounds. Duh, BS. Can’t have it both ways now can we, fact is neither fighter had time to prepare for each other, but LL was at least training for a championship fight, while Vitali was not. This out of shape stuff is just BS and an excuse. You can’t be out of shape in round one and suddenly be coming on and in shape in the later rounds, pure fantasy.

Posted June 20, 2014 12:47 pm 


Pratt

What is up with Briggs now, I just a photo of the guy and he is totally ripped for an old guy, ripped and grey. He looks like he is running for MuscleMan of the World. Check him out.
Briggs for ‘Mr. Universe’.

Posted June 20, 2014 11:09 am 


SREDMOND

The Facts, I never said that Wlad did not belong in the HOF that said his supporters tend to OVER REACH badly in terms of who he is and who he might have beaten… Guys saying he would KO Lewis will never resonate with me even though anything is possible and guys selling the David Hayes of the World as “Ali equivalents” will never resonate with me… Guys INFLATING the hell out of Corrie Sanders status in the sport don’t sell with me, and people trying to rob Lamon Brewster of credit for a hard won victory don’t get respect from me… I know people want everything to be 100% jolly in Klit land but its not..

Posted June 20, 2014 10:27 am 


The Facts

SREDMOND, I happen to think Lennox Lewis is probably a Top 5 ATG HW. He didn’t get so much respect when he was boxing either. I took apart his resume in that way because you’re on here every day doing the same to Wlad’s. That’s what you do. Wlad is an ATG HW Champ, will be recognized by many fans as such after he retires and you’ll always be a mug..

Posted June 20, 2014 9:43 am 


bruce

spot on.

Posted June 20, 2014 9:27 am 


SREDMOND

Calling Holyfield “a Blown up Cruiser” is WEAK Holyfield proved his mettle at HW and that cannot be denied he won the title 4x, these current scrubs they are selling (Arreola) cannot get past the Adameks and Stivernes of the world, there is a WORLD of difference between Evander and a David Haye in terms of quality of opposition and fights won at HW make no mistakes..

Posted June 20, 2014 9:24 am 


SREDMOND

“The Facts” its funny you discuss a number of bouts where Lewis ultimately got rid of his opponent ie Phil Jackson and Bruno and this is what I mean about Wlads chances against Lewis… Klits is 100% dependent on complete order and early submission.. 3 of his foes who bucked the trend and either REALLY came to attack out of the gate (Sanders) or guys that toughed it out over the course Purrity and Brewster got to him and he did not find a way to stem those tides.. Whereas Lewis when he found himself in a “tough man contest” with Vitali was winning the latter round and wreaking havoc on the elder Klits face after Vitali came out to a fast start…

Posted June 20, 2014 9:11 am 


SREDMOND

Lewis BLEW Shannon Briggs out in 5 rounds had him down what 3x? On his back when “The Cannon” was still in shape, I have seen Klit fans try to REALLY give Vitali ENORMOUS cred for pounding the bloated immobile version of Briggs that still lurks around talking about boxing today..

Posted June 20, 2014 9:05 am 


The Facts

In the interests of fairness, it should be said that much of the boxing fraternity in America didn’t really like Lennox Lewis when he was HW Champ either. He got more respect after he retired. Lennox turned pro at 23, nearly 24, three years older than Wlad. Let’s have a look at some of Lewis’ opponents in the manner Wlad gets criticized by the likes of SREDMOND: Frank Bruno, who’d had his limitations exposed previously in world class and was still outboxing Lennox, Tony Tucker (12 pretty dull rounds), a good win against Donovan Ruddock who had been through 2 wars with a young Iron Mike though, Phil Jackson…he then got clobbered by Oliver McCall. (Lewis had faults, bad technique and poor trainers back then. Hired Emmanuel Steward to train him properly, much like Wlad later on). Beat the likes of Justin Fortune and Lionel Butler, hmmmm, then Tommy Morrison r.i.p., who was exciting but limited, won a tough one with Ray Mercer, met O McCall again who was unfit to box, got an unedifying DQ in a terrible ‘fight’ against Henry Akinwande the Human Octopus, blew out Andrew Golota who was always a headcase, suffered from nerves and lost/threw away all his big fights, beat a limited, always over hyped asthmatic Shannon Briggs who still wobbled LL badly, struggled with Mavrovic somewhat and had to go the 12 round distance, beat 37 year old blown up cruiserweight Evander Holyfield over two fights and 24 rounds, who had lost two out of three to Riddick Bowe and had lost to Moorer, blew out over hyped Michael Grant, an always very average Frans Botha, little David Tua in 12 dull rounds, was flattened with one punch again, this time by Hasim Rahman, won the rematch, beat a shot, medicated, there-for-the-payday rusty Iron Mike, was losing to Vitali Klitschko but cut him severely so got an unsatisfying W…retired. That’s what SREDMOND and his like-minded brethren do with Wlad’s resume all the time. He has no credibility, unlike Wlad Klitschko who is an ATG HW Champ..

Posted June 20, 2014 8:58 am 


ECAT

I forgot about Dunn, he was a southpaw…

Posted June 20, 2014 8:46 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

Lewis should not have rematched Vitali. His time at the top was up, he had secured his legacy and stood to lose more than he could win should he have been defeated.

Posted June 20, 2014 7:40 am 


Anonymous

TARK sounds like a broken record when it comes to Lenox Lewis. Smacks of the green eyed monster to me. TARK, keep copy and pasting your bs about Lewis. It’s always good to start a Friday morning with a good chuckle.

COPY & PASTE
The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

COPY & PASTE
The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

COPY & PASTE
The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

COPY & PASTE
The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

COPY & PASTE
The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

COPY & PASTE
The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

Anyone can COPY & PASTE the same old garbage TARK

Posted June 20, 2014 5:49 am 


SLIM

Yeah but Lewis should have given Vitali rematch. He knows he won on cuts…good fight though. I think he retired after that fight.

Posted June 20, 2014 4:17 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

I love Vitali and even rate him in the all time top 10 but the whole Lewis saga is really a non issue. Facts are facts. Lewis took the fight waaay too lightly, was at a career heavy, gasping for air after 1 round and simply NOT in shape. At the time Vitali acknowledged that in interviews he’s on record saying that Lewis has not prepared enough for me. Vitali was in his prime and in top shape and it was still just an all out slugfest that Lewis WON. He has always been the superior fighter. He knew his time was up and given his unpredictable temperament he knew he couldn’t motivate himself adequately for a rematch.

Posted June 20, 2014 3:45 am 


TARK

Sredmond say about Lewis.., “You must not have seen him BLOW OUT Grant, Golota and Briggs”

Big, slow, ungainly heavyweights… Briggs couldn’t beat Ibragimov.. He didn’t have a 25″ neck when he fought Lewis.. So Lewis didn’t have to break his face like 40-year-old Vitali did.. Briggs needed reconstructive surgery after VK hit him.

A few things you always fail to mention… Lewis never stopped ANYONE on cuts but Vitali… Vitali never suffered a single threatening cut before or since his Lewis fight.. and all the cuts were caused by illegal contact.. the major slashes were caused by Lewis raking Vitali’s face wth the palm of his glove while holding Vitali in a headlock… The fans booed Lewis out of the arena and cheered Vitali.

The fight should have gone to the scorecards… Since Vitali was WINNING on ALL SCORECARDS, he deserved to win a UNANIMOUS TECHNICAL DECISION.

Posted June 20, 2014 1:23 am 


TARK

Sredmond.., “Lara he’s not even a Champion at this point.”

He sure as Hell IS.. And a damned good one.. I think Lara’s going to let Canelo come in heavy like he weighed in for Angulo..

Lara’s not a lock.. Nobody’s a lock in a highly anticipated title fight—unless it was Foreman-Frazier… Liston-Patteron… or Tyson-Spinks … Few big fights are that lopsided.

But Lara should be favored 2-1.. I had Floyd favored 8:5 two months out from his Canelo fight… and after the weigh-in 5-1.. The weigh-in is important for this fight too.

Posted June 20, 2014 1:06 am 


Auzbox

Yeh agreed he is a money fighter not fighting for legacy or greatness

Posted June 19, 2014 11:37 pm 


SLIM

@Auzbox…Wlad is fighting everybody available. I agree…

Posted June 19, 2014 10:53 pm 


SLIM

@Auzbox…I know this isn’t a FM forum. But you forget that FM doesn’t fight anymore to prove hes the BEST. Like Trinidad, Ray Leonard, Hearns, Duran, Cotto. He has bunch serious business people behind him. Like Schaefer, Al Haymon, the Showtime boss. They put him in with the opponents that they think can help sell the fight. Period!

Posted June 19, 2014 10:52 pm 


Anonymous

SLIM.its not wlads fault that david had a sore toe.

Posted June 19, 2014 10:18 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmond I hope your not dissing povetkin, wlad bashed him senseless. Do you remember how floyd went against a gold medallist? Split decision

Posted June 19, 2014 9:55 pm 


Auzbox

Slim but the bloke can’t help if the division isn’t strong or weak, the reason I’m so harsh on floyd is you could pick the 3 next fights for him easily but he won’t fight them. Wlad is taking on and dominating everybody

Posted June 19, 2014 9:54 pm 


laj

By the way if heavy weight fighting is dead, why are there more posts on the HVWTs than the other divisions? Makes you think?

Posted June 19, 2014 9:22 pm 


laj

Wlad beat Iggy, Povetkin, Bryd in his prime, Chageav, Brock, Thompson, Haye, Botha still in his prime, KO’d Mercer who had never been down before. All these fighters are better than the pathetic four examples you gave. Wlad has knocked out 18 fighters that had never been KO’d before, LL only 3. Sometimes it’s not just who you beat, it is also how you beat them and dominate. Wlad is way past LL in this area. Wlad’s reign is looking similar to Joe Loius, but with better competition. And by the way Peter was in his prime and absolutely at his best the first time he fought Wlad, and was the next great hope.

Posted June 19, 2014 9:20 pm 


laj

Grant, Golota, give me a break, don’t make me laugh, pathetic examples. You name four mediocre fighters, not even as good as Wach or Pianetta. Thanks you just made my case for me. What a laugh. By the way if LL could beat Sanders why did he avoid him???? And no matter what you say he did dude. Simple answer if LL had been hit with the first shot Sanders hit Wlad with he would still be down.

Posted June 19, 2014 9:11 pm 


SLIM

@Auzbox…I told you already, im not a Floyd Mayweather fan. Until he fights Pacquio PERIOD!!!! I just think the “Heavy weight” division has been weak over the last 20yrs. but I don’t live in Europe. I’m not bashing the Klits, im bashing their competition. I think it’s weak…Have a nice day.

Posted June 19, 2014 8:56 pm 


SLIM

Hmmmmmm…..

Posted June 19, 2014 8:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlads list of “Champiions” consists of leftovers what fresh Killers did he bang out?? HOFERS? Povetkin got awarded a belt man please your embarrassing yourself Sammy Peter?

Posted June 19, 2014 8:48 pm 


Auzbox

Can’t think of the last fighter to dominate the heavies for ten years or any weight actually I mean even floyd hasn’t had a unanimous victory for a while

Posted June 19, 2014 8:44 pm 


SREDMOND

I don’t THINK Sanders would have “Knocked Wlad Cold” I KNOW he would because he came off a layoff from golfing and banging Aborigines to smash Klits in 2 rounds.. No speculation necessary, Lewis would have dusted Corrie like the C level fighter he was… Only reason you are trying to sell Sanders is because he made Wlad look like a WIMP.. He was nobody as a fighter absent that one night

Posted June 19, 2014 8:41 pm 


Auzbox

Slim count losses of wlads last ten opponents, then go to say the so called p4p king and count those. Wlads last 10 has half as many as floyds last 10. Interesting

Posted June 19, 2014 8:35 pm 


SREDMOND

You must not have seen him BLOW OUT Grant, Golota and Briggs all good sized HW’s… Tony Tucker? Wlads a far more cautious boxer than Lewis who had no issues exchanging with another Big Man like Vitali… Wlad gets nervous when Haye who was bare throwing looked at his melon..His brother who bailed him out with the Sanders and Purrity losses had a chance to take the Undisputed HW title against a Lewis that was ripe for the picking and after a couple good rounds he was bleeding all over the place..

Posted June 19, 2014 8:34 pm 


laj

Hi Sredmond to be honest I think Bryd, Iggy, Thompson, Povetkin all would have given LL tough fights and Sanders would have knocked him cold. Wlad was never, repeat never KO’d. Wlad never was counted out, and Wald never failed to finish a fight on his feet. In addition Wald has 22 more fights than LL, has beaten more champions has a higher KO ratio against bigger men, and has been undefeated longer than LL entire reign as champion. Wlad also has a 23-2 record (likely to end up ~30-2) against LL 15-2. LL fought both Holy and Tyson past their prime. His best win was against Vitali on a cut. As I said LL was great, why can’t you admit Wald is??

Posted June 19, 2014 8:17 pm 


laj

Slim your buddy Sredmond brought him up as an example. Just like he brings up LL even though this article is about Wald and Pulev.

Posted June 19, 2014 8:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Sorry Laj that’s just not true Lewis was TKOED once and KOED once Wlad was stopped 3x and Lewis fought and beat much better fighters than Wlad… You guys are still trying to give Klits credit for beating 40 year old versions of guys Lewis beat YEARS ago, Rahman.. Wlads been feasting on too many Wachs, Mormecks, Pianetas and other dreadful HW’s to contend with Lennox, his protective older brother got his face mangled by an old Lewis when Vitali was prime..

Posted June 19, 2014 8:08 pm 


SLIM

I still can’t understand why people are talking about David “TOE” Haye…He took his shoe off in the ring, and showed the world his hurt “TOE”. You have got to be kidding me. They don’t make up stories like that. He is “BUM” period. Have a nice day!

Posted June 19, 2014 8:05 pm 


laj

When did LL ever bum rush anybody? He had the same basic fighting style as Wlad. He wasn’t as fast and didn’t have the movement, so often he would fight the inside game, as slower fighters are forced to do, but he certainly never bum rushed anybody I know of.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:58 pm 


laj

Haye never kept Wlad at bay, he ran all fight long. He choose not to trade with Wlad, and wise choice. Haye jumps in and out on his opponent, he doesn’t stay in the pocket, and exchange, no need to he is fast, unlike LL, who is a medium speed heavyweight.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:56 pm 


SLIM

@eric…You got pretty annoyed about my comment of the Klits fighting bums…hmmmmm. Wonder why? Maybe back in your mind you know it’s true!!!! Lol

Posted June 19, 2014 7:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad has the SAME attack jab jab jab right hand, occasional left hook.. Lewis would have bum rushed him and taken him outta his comfort zone the way he ended up doing with the arm punching older brother
As things got more grimey…. Wlads quality of opposition would leave him woefully unprepared for that level

Posted June 19, 2014 7:55 pm 


laj

Wlad wouldn’t have had to go 6 rounds with Lewis. Lewis would have gotten caught and gone down, the same way he would beat Wald. If it ever went the distance Wlad out boxes LL all day long. Doesn’t mean LL isn’t great, I have him at #4 all time.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:54 pm 


Auzbox

Wlad stops Lewis and vitali beats him in a rematch. Lewis s mother went to the negotiation table for the rematch and she didn’t want her son to fight vitali again, and for good reason

Posted June 19, 2014 7:53 pm 


laj

Sredmond, Wlad’s blood sugar was sky high after the Brewster fight. This is an undisputed fact. High blood sugar causes fatigue, loss of focus and later on can cause unconsciousness. Sorry, but watch how hard and clean Sanders hit Wlad, then watch the punches Brewster landed, which couldn’t even knock Wlad down. Wlad may not have been poisoned, or he may have, I have no clue, neither do you, but that fact his blood sugar was so high and he got fatigued had much more to do with his loss than any punches landed.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:52 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad honestly would not have gone 6 rounds with Lewis he is reliant on being able to control his opponents and Lewis would not be controllable..
Lenox was a FAR better infighter with better punch variety, add to that Wlads lack of toughness and he would WILT under the pressure, a small
HW like Haue kept Wlad at Bay…Lewis makes him look like a better version of Andrew Golota, Wlad does not have the necessary grit..

Posted June 19, 2014 7:49 pm 


laj

Sredmond, now you are dreaming, Holy never beat a skilled big man, ever. Lewis was slower and not as strong as Wlad. It would have been a 70-30 fight with Wlad having the 70% chance. Young Wlad may have been beaten by Lewis if he didn’t get to him first a toss up, but the Wlad post Peter beats LL like a drum all day long, too fast, too strong and more power. The only way LL could last is if he got Wlad to fight with him on the inside. They both lost to fighters they shouldn’t have.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears says ” Brewster was entirely outclassed the first fight” but he somehow ended up knocked out and in the hospital after the 6th round… HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Why did he fight a rematch since he outclassed Brewster so easy the first time?? Klit fans can NEVER eat a loss and move on..Tsk Tsk

Posted June 19, 2014 7:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad would get murdered by Lewis, his attack does not change and Lennox was a meaner fighter… The younger Klit would never survive a dogfight with Lennox… Holy would give him hell also, he was active, tough and he came to win… Wlad never fought fighters of this caliber, not even close..

Posted June 19, 2014 7:23 pm 


laj

Hi Eric, not sure how Brewster would be looked at in history. He had good power and a great chin until it finally gave in after too many brutal fights. Unfortunately he was not as skilled as he needed to be to have a long career, kind of like Frazier and some others in there. Some actually think Norton deserved it, so why not Brewster who did more to deserve it. Anyhow only time will tell.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:16 pm 


eric

Laj, the thing is if Brewster ends up in the HOF, will Brewster be spoken about like you speak of Norton ?? Just because one gets in doesn’t mean they belong there, I believe Brewster career is long over and he didn’t do enuf but once again who knows i’ve seen crazier things.

Posted June 19, 2014 6:53 pm 


lol

maybe david haye.

Posted June 19, 2014 6:53 pm 


eric

Hey laj, yeah you got a point ya never know who may end up in the HOF, very true.

Posted June 19, 2014 6:45 pm 


laj

Hi Eric, actually we don’t know who will be in the HOF, except Wlad of course. Brewster actually has a chance. After all they put Norton in there and he never beat any significant fighter other than Ali, never won a championship, and truly did have a weak chin. Of course I don’t believe Norton or some others (like Liston) actually deserved it , but it just goes to show you never know. It depends on who else is nominated during the time-frame.

Posted June 19, 2014 6:28 pm 


eric

Heres the perfect way to look at punky Brewster, colonial sanders and ross purity.

Wladmir has 1000 times more money than all of them combined, Wladmir is a future hall of famer, they are not, Wladmir has broken records only they could dream about.

Wladmir made a triumphant comeback and turned his career around to become the world’s best when most would have quit.

I have more respect for not only a career comeback but to the level Wladmir did it is just amazing.

Some people just cannot give credit whereby credit is due.

Klitschko is the undisputed champion of the world b! Tches lol.

Posted June 19, 2014 6:03 pm 


eric

SLIM, or is it slime? I usually don’t call names but your stupid, if what your saying is true than any other decent heavyweights should be able to dominant for 10 years like Wladmir, but only vitili would be able to come close.

Who can or could duplicate what Wladmir has done over the past 10 years ? Nobody dummy.

Posted June 19, 2014 5:51 pm 


Auzbox

And didn’t Brewster get stopped by a guy with only 9 fights under his belt his last time out. Your only as good as your last finish.

Posted June 19, 2014 5:37 pm 


Auzbox

Wlad an ATG, no one beats him while his heart is in it only wish Holyfield and Lewis were still going cause he whips the both of them to.

Posted June 19, 2014 5:34 pm 


laj

I am simply saying who you would rather be, which is and always was the question. Being humiliated and coming back better and stronger is nothing to be ashamed of. It is a badge of courage and the sign of a real champion.

Posted June 19, 2014 5:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, you are discussing the aftermath of their careers and the truth is that in the series Wlad was the one most humiliated… Brewster was the beneficiary of low expections! Vitali told Wlad “RETIRE” after Lamon beat his AZZ that first time all cred to Klits for getting it together but his series with Brewster is 1-1 and the sad part was Klits getting carried to his stool…

Posted June 19, 2014 5:27 pm 


laj

Well Sredmond, I guess we now know that you would rather have been a man brutally beaten up for 35 of the 36 minutes and knocked down, than the man that was never knocked down in either fight and is still the champion of the world and re-writing the record books, and I would rather be the one that did the beating and is still champion. I believe this marks the end of the discussion.

Posted June 19, 2014 5:19 pm 


Anonymous

Pretty easy to work out. A WHITE MAN IS THE BEST HEAVYWEIGHT AND THAT WON’T BE CHANGING ANYTIME SOON SREDMOND. TO BAD

Posted June 19, 2014 5:16 pm 


SREDMOND

You said over the 2 fight series? reality is that each fight is its own story… Brewster stopped Wlad in 6 first time around and then Wlad stopped him second time around… Brewsters was more graphic and made Wlad look pathetic needed to be carried… Whereas an outgunned Brewster just got pounded and told that he was done by Mcgirt… Each man had his moment but lets be clear that first loss by Wlad was UGLY flopping all over the ring and besides Brewster was the underdog he had nothing to lose…

Posted June 19, 2014 5:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, your question has been answered WHAT are you whining about? you wanted to know which boxer I would have rather been after the first fight and I told you Brewster because he WON and he was not in need of immediate medical observation… Whats your point?

Posted June 19, 2014 5:10 pm 


laj

Actually I have had interactions with Sredmond before and easily showed him how wrong and stupid some of his comments were and he just disappeared, I was just hoping that happened again. No luck Arggg!!

Posted June 19, 2014 4:09 pm 


Anonymouse

ECAT is e well known Ali h@ter

Sracemond e well known klitchko h@ter

Mongrel e well known Cotto H@ter

they are h@ters for years now but still not banned. why?

Posted June 19, 2014 4:00 pm 


Anonymous

laj

you dont know sredmond huh? lol you cant win!

Posted June 19, 2014 3:59 pm 


laj

Sredmond, again you change the question again, dude, you just can’t get it right. The question was over the two fight series, but you want to change the rules to suite you and win go for it, little too childish for me.

Posted June 19, 2014 3:45 pm 


SREDMOND

No Bears the ref did the RIGHT thing in letting Bradley keep fighting and work to retain his title.. Only a C@#NT like you would wanna see a George Groves like stoppage of a standing Champ so your particular Man Love (Provo) could get the belt… Provo had 11 rounds to finish Bradley and he could NOT because Tim has heart and fought and retained his belts…You are NOT a fight fan

Posted June 19, 2014 3:42 pm 


SREDMOND

No Tark perhaps JMM is not so interested in facing Pac Man because its been 5x usually a rematch is as much as you see 5 fights is a TON… Especially because a CLEAR win was gotten whereas the others were all controversial and debateable…Brewster and Wlad are 1-1 till hell freezes over TKO vs TKO…. Manny never authored a result like that against Marquez… A draw, MD, S/D and a COLD blooded KO…

Posted June 19, 2014 3:40 pm 


Anonymouse

ECAT is e well known Ali h@ter

Sracemond e well known klitchko h@ter

Mongrel e well known Cotto H@ter

they are h@ters for years now but still not banned

Posted June 19, 2014 3:17 pm 


TARK

Angelo Dundee.., “In a 2-fight series, the guy who wins the rematch wins it… He had the last word. He left the rivalry the winner.” … Wlad beats Lamon

That’s why Marquez won’t face Pacquiao again. If he wins it would only tie the series.

It was JMM’s only victory in 4 fights, and he clearly lost the series… but he still left the rivalry the winner of the final undisputed result … and he doesn’t give a damn what anyone else thinks. He’s hanging his hat on that.

Posted June 19, 2014 3:16 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS you mug. It’s “Veni, vidi, vici”
“I came, I saw, I conquered.”

Get it right, you plum. BTW you’ve never beaten anyone, ever!

Posted June 19, 2014 2:11 pm 


Anonymous

doc-do you speak latin? neither do i. your not half as smart as u wanted to sound then.

“its vini vidi vici ”

did the n d and i render my post incoherant? naw, u knew exactly what i was saying. you just wanted to be a phuk head. thats cool. u should learn the language if u wanna come off like u know it

BEARS you mug. It’s “Veni, vidi, vici”
“I came, I saw, I conquered.”

Get it right, you plum. BTW you’ve never beaten anyone, ever!

Posted June 19, 2014 2:11 pm 


The Facts

Brewster got three beatings…two from Wlad and one from Liakhovich.

Posted June 19, 2014 2:07 pm 


The Facts

Wladimir Klitschko is 62-3, unbeaten in 10 years, rarely loses a round and after he retires, will be recognized as a Hall Of Famer and an ATG Heavyweight Champ. Top 10 ATG Heavyweight easily. Only one better as Champ is Louis…

Posted June 19, 2014 2:05 pm 


BEARS

the eye made no difference in the wlad vs brewster rematch. wlad simply picked up where he left off before the freak drain. putting to rest all doubts. brewster was about to get stopped it was utterly one sided he could not land ANYTHING. and no sredmond excuse could possibly spell different. brewster was just entirely outclassed just like he was in the first fight. where he got his a$$ wooped just the same but he came out with a win.

i like lamon but the truth is the truth. in the grand scheme of things lamon is not half the man wlad is. sorry dude

Posted June 19, 2014 2:02 pm 


BEARS

Brewster has use of one eye, not much money, and was fighting under the turd don king. LOL. NOBODY in their right mind wants to be brewster they would want to be wlad.

wlad is the complete package as a heavyweight both him and vitaly and i do not think there is anyone in history as complete as those two. If you had to pick to be a heavyweight boxer in history i would pick wlad or vitaly for their arsenals and their plus minus ratio, and the ko% i think its quite clear. Brewster has taken far more punishment than wlad has and it shows.

wlad dropped brewster twice in bout one and brewster had never been dumped before. wlad got tripped by the ref and the ref ruled it a knock down. lol.

funny cause tim bradley gets dropped by provodnikov, popps back up and goes right back down doing a reversal into a face plant. where that fight should have been stopped, the ref did not even rule it a knock down.

thats how pathetic officiating can be in boxing. needs two refs. one in the ring and watching all angles of the fight and replays mic’ed up to eachother making sure proper calls are being made. provodnikov vs bradley was a tko win for provodnikov and a points win.

i remember max kellerman saying “i think these are 10-8 rounds for provodnikov even though he has not knocked down bradley in these rounds”

Posted June 19, 2014 1:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Tark who argues that Wlad was able to move forward as HW Champ and that Brewster had his career shortened? But on the night in question Brewster took it to Klits when he saw his opening they will forever remain 1-1 TKO for TKO unless they have a rubber match..

Posted June 19, 2014 1:56 pm 


stb

Wlad whups all those Afro-US bums. Only half the world was boxing in the 1970’s…amateur time.

Posted June 19, 2014 1:52 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, I would RATHER have been Lamon Brewster because he became HW Champion and had Wlads brother telling him to retire after that first bout.. Going thru pain in order to get the “W” is part of boxing… Only a PUNK would rather have been Wlad flopping on the canvas instead of Brewster celebrating… Brewster did a postfight interview while Wlad went to the Hospital..

Posted June 19, 2014 1:42 pm 


TARK

Forget Klitschko-Brewster I… Brewster went on to smash the incompetent and ungainly Andrew Golota in 38 seconds. Then Lamon fought some tough swinger named Sergei Liakhovich is a brutal slugfest. He came out second best because his defense wasn’t any better than when he fought Wladimir.

Wladimir went a different road than Brewster… He kept Emmanuel Steward on (that was only their first fight together). He redoubled his efforts to master his profession and be the best heavyweight ever… In fact that was his last defeat and it was over 10 years ago – and he beat Brewster in a rematch as easily as he beat him in the first 4 rounds of their earlier fight in his dazed and drugged condition – which he still swears he was in – and hired lawyers and investigators to try to prove his contention…

He was up against master criminals who will be exposed on Judgment Day. Good enough. But that was another lifetime ago in terms of Wladimir’s fistic abilities.

Posted June 19, 2014 1:10 pm 


BEARS SHOW SOME RESPECT

this thread is about KING WLAD !!!!!

Posted June 19, 2014 12:57 pm 


SLIM

Might work outside a bar not prize fight…Maidana is just another loser deal with it. And NO he did not land more punches than Floyd. Have a nice day.

Posted June 19, 2014 12:57 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

the extremem ammount of ounhes maidana threw indicates whi was controllin the fight, its pace, and in this case ring generalship as it was maidana pressing

Posted June 19, 2014 12:51 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

doc-do you speak latin? neither do i. your not half as smart as u wanted to sound then.

“its vini vidi vici ”

did the n d and i render my post incoherant? naw, u knew exactly what i was saying. you just wanted to be a phuk head. thats cool. u should learn the language if u wanna come off like u know it

Posted June 19, 2014 12:50 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

maidana outlanded floyd nearly every round

Posted June 19, 2014 12:47 pm 


SLIM

@eldarado…How did Maidana beat Floyd a$$ rabbit punching behind the head, head butting, hitting below the belt, fighting dirty, only landing 28pct. of punches. When Floyd landed 54pct. and landed more punches? Looked exciting but Maidana but was just another loser. Might work outside a bar though…have a nice day!

Posted June 19, 2014 12:41 pm 


laj

Sredmond, again, not sure why I keep doing this. There is no argument about who won the fight. The question AGAIN is who would you have rather been. This is what you asked. Why do you keep changing the question?????

Posted June 19, 2014 12:30 pm 


SLIM

@Eric…of course he’s dominated for 10years and if he continues to fight bums he will dominate for another 10. He will be the oldest heavyweight of all time never losing a round.

Posted June 19, 2014 12:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Again Laj, the fact that he WAS winning the first fight means little its about the END result that is why boxing is unlike any sport, until 9 seconds are left in the bout there is NO lead that can be overcome..

Posted June 19, 2014 12:11 pm 


Veritas

PEOPLE CAN’T STAND THE TRUTH ABOUT

ALI

Posted June 19, 2014 12:01 pm 


eric

Wladmir having a some what weak chin is even more proof of his greatness, not many with a weak chin can dominant for 10 years without being great in any era.

Posted June 19, 2014 12:00 pm 


eric

Wladmir has been champ for 10 years barley losing a single round, knocking out most foes and breaking records, there really isn’t any argument lol.

Posted June 19, 2014 11:56 am 


laj

By the way Sredmond I said Wlad WAS winning the first fight. In fact not just winning, creaming Brewster (who I actually like), who was down at the end of 4. It was stopped at the end of 5 rounds, it didn’t go to the sixth as you state, but I am sure you never even watched it, so what do we expect to hear from you.

Posted June 19, 2014 11:45 am 


laj

Sredmond, again you are twisting the discussion, try and stay focused now. You asked who you would rather be, and I said the one that won all but 60 seconds of the two fights, not the one taking a beating for 32 minutes. But you want to twist the discussion be my guest.

Posted June 19, 2014 11:42 am 


eldorado

At least Wlad has bounced back from defeats and learned. Castillo and Maidana whooped Floyd’s overrated a$$ and Floyd’s cry baby fans get all upset. Mayweather gets more bogus verdicts than Ali did, lol! TWO of the most over rated boxers of ALL TIME!

Posted June 19, 2014 11:24 am 


Anonymous

keep todays hw boxing shows in germany. the best freak shows on the planet.

Posted June 19, 2014 11:23 am 


uk

TARK

Slim.., I shouldn’t talk about defense? Because Ali got hit so much??? Wladimir doesn’t hold as much as Ali did. Watch the first few rounds of Ali-Foreman and all of Ali-Frazier II.. Nothing but grabbing and wrestling by Ali.

Ali was wide open for jabs and left hooks. Bob Foster opened cuts on Ali’s eye and hurt him. If Foster were 40 pounds heavier he would have beaten Ali.

Jimmy Young and Larry Holmes stabbed Ali with jabs all night… Frazier, Cooper, and Banks sent Ali to the canvas with left hooks and Norton broke Ali’s jaw with a left hook… Ali had no body attack and pulled straight back from punches … an amateurish technique.

Combine all that with Ali’s lack of power and you don’t have a fighter who fare better against the K Bros than Tomasz Adamek… Chris Byrd… David Haye… or Eddie Chambers.

Meanwhile, Ali never faced anyone with size, strength, speed, or skills vaguely resembling Wladimir… The Wladimir of the last 10 years, post Emmanuel Steward is a complete heavyweight … Much different than the Wladimir of the first 8 years

Posted June 18, 2014 8:57 pm

Ain’t that the truth!!!

Posted June 19, 2014 11:07 am 


Anonymous

ECATerina is TARK’S love hole.

Posted June 19, 2014 10:33 am 


Anonymous

ECAT or should we call you Ecaterina? I did some research and she is a super fat hairy, 295 pound lard ass, cake eating, vodka swigging, sack wearing, street walking hooker from Московский in Russia. She is a super groupie of all the heavyweights there and once had a fumble with Nicolai Valuev in a hair bear fest. Ecaterina is more interested in their inside leg measurements than their actual fighting prowess and hence she delivers long, pointless lists that mean nothing.
Please stop sucking off TARK.

Posted June 19, 2014 10:32 am 


Dick Bulger

Pulev could take Wilder. Jury is still out on Wilder. But Wlad takes Pulev.

Posted June 19, 2014 9:58 am 


sthomas

There are billions of people on the planet and more international competition than ever yet there’s been no competition for WK for about 10 years? Someone please explain how this would be possible???

Posted June 19, 2014 9:55 am 


SREDMOND

Wlad has obviously crafted a HOF level career, there is no need to smear the guys who beat him nor create false accolades for his opponents that really have no merit ie “beating Kevin Mcbride”

Posted June 19, 2014 9:51 am 


Carbo

A lot of fights were fixed in Ali’s time.

Ali predicted so many of his early fights correctly.

Posted June 19, 2014 9:42 am 


SREDMOND

Laj, who said that Wlad was not winning the bulk of the first Brewster fight? problem is that his chin got clipped he was NOT the victim of some poisoning that kicked in during the 6th round… Always some BIZARRE excuse when a Klit loses tsk, tsk, tsk….

Posted June 19, 2014 9:29 am 


SREDMOND

NONE of the Klits opponents stand a serious chance of going to the HOF at HW, Who? Tark will peddle guys like Haye and Adamek who did not accomplish nearly enough at HW to be mentioned alongside Foreman and Ali…. This current group is not vetting themselves at all, who Povetkin in the Hall? Tony Thompson? Don’t make me laugh…

Posted June 19, 2014 8:24 am 


SREDMOND

Tark who cares if once or twice in Mayweathers career he got a Bloody nose from a HOF fighter that he UDed at age 35? Trouts win over Cotto is not as telling because he beat hIM RIGHT after Mayweather did… You love of Lara is just more of you being on the bandwagon, he’s NOT a lock to beat Canelo by any stretch and his win over Trout was off a loss where Alvarez also dropped him.. History is not sitting around discussing Lara he’s not even a Champion at this point just a damn good fighter..

Posted June 19, 2014 8:18 am 


titopa

Ali most overrated ever.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:41 am 


TheGateKeeper

Wlad.
Stopped three times , once by a golfer who only faced two other rated heavyweights in his entire career .Vitali and Rahman both knocked the golfer out . Sanders was kayoed by Nate Tubbs in two rounds and destroyed in one round by a bum in his last fight.
Wlad. Stopped by a journeyman named Ross Puritty.
Wlad.
Refused to rematch two of the three men who defeated him. Wlad.
Has never fought let alone beat a HOF heavyweight.
Wlad.
Was in all time most boring , overhyped fights in when he “fought “Haye and Potevkin.
Wlad.
Rumours of illegal PED use.
Wlad.
No inside game.
Wlad.
Poor stamina , gasses in 12 round fights due to his panic stricken mentality if his opponent fights back.

Posted June 19, 2014 7:20 am 


ECAT

ECAT or should we call you Ecaterina?

WRONG AGAIN.

Posted June 19, 2014 6:37 am 


eldorado

Ali. He lost 5 times, got his jaw broke, took too much punishment, lacked an inside game too, was outboxed by Ken Norton over three fights, relied on his name to receive bogus points decisions in the 70’s, was floored heavily by cruiserweights, fought tons of no-hopers on global ‘Bum of the Month’ tours and got beat by a seven-fight novice. Great fighter for his day though!!

Posted June 19, 2014 6:34 am 


SweetSciGuru

Wlad is a great heavyweight champ. He beats Pulev and anyone else around, y’all!

Posted June 19, 2014 6:06 am 


huckster

wlad-kubrat I ……………. Go Cobra!

Posted June 19, 2014 5:56 am 


SANITY

Tark , Ali was an old man when he fought Shavers .

It’s like saying Larry Holmes could’nt punch because Mike Spinks went 30 rounds in two fights with him and was never wobbled while Mike Tyson destroyed Spinks by looking at him.

Holmes COULD punch by the way but that’s the kind of stupid logic you are so find of.

Posted June 19, 2014 5:42 am 


Ron Lyle

George could hit but not as hard as Shavers .

Posted June 19, 2014 5:39 am 


SLIM

@Ecat…it’s real easy to say someone doesn’t hit hard when you’ve never been in a ring your life, and sitting behind a computer drinking cheap beer…Lol!

Posted June 19, 2014 4:31 am 


SLIM

@Ecat…why do you think they called him “smoking Joe” he did pack a good punch. Also i’m not 2Pac fool. I only use the handle SLIM.

Posted June 19, 2014 4:28 am 


RAY GORDEN REID

iM a mOrOn

Posted June 19, 2014 4:15 am 


Anonymous

ECAT or should we call you Ecaterina? I did some research and she is a super fat hairy, 295 pound lard ass, cake eating, vodka swigging, sack wearing, street walking hooker from Московский in Russia. She is a super groupie of all the heavyweights there and once had a fumble with Nicolai Valuev in a hair bear fest. Ecaterina is more interested in their inside leg measurements than their actual fighting prowess and hence she delivers long, pointless lists that mean nothing.

Posted June 19, 2014 3:58 am 


Anonymous

TARK is like a broken record. He says the same old thing time after time after time. This old timer has taken too many knock to his noggin.

Posted June 19, 2014 3:47 am 


Bimbo

I was wondering who Wlad will use as a sparring partner , matching Pulev’s style and size. I can not think of any one who fights same way as Pulev ,except Vitaly.

Posted June 19, 2014 3:28 am 


ECAT

Very funny SLIM aka 2 PAC…

Posted June 19, 2014 3:08 am 


ECAT

Fraizer a hard puncher???

Posted June 19, 2014 2:56 am 


TARK

Pulev is a good height for Wladimir… He can work his way in and jab with Wladimir… He’s not punching up so far…

Kubrat is the only guy to stop Ustinov or Dimitrenko… They were taller but he had no problem getting good leverage on his punches against them. If he were an inch or 2 shorter it would make a world of dfference.

Wladimir might be a tad overconfident, but I doubt it. His defeats are now many years in the past, but the pain still lingers on forever. That’s what really drives you if you take defeat as hard as Wladimir does. He’s fanatical.

Posted June 19, 2014 2:03 am 


rod

Glad this is going ahead. Pulev has been waiting for some time, has good skills and fought some good fights. Wlad should still win, Pulev does not have the punching power to constantly hurt Wlad. Most likely a UD win from Wlad. Now wilder will have to face stiverne his first real test. Wlad should face the winner of Stiverne vs Wilder and Fury vs Chisora in late 2014 early 2015. Quality fights!!!

Posted June 19, 2014 1:35 am 


dick tiger

I had not seen Pulev fight so I watched some of his fights tonight. I don’t think think he can beat WK. Look for Wald to shoot straight right hands over the partially extended left hand of Pulev. Pulev does come to fight so it should be fun to watch while it last. Then again anything can happen in boxing, that’s why they have the fights.

Posted June 19, 2014 1:27 am 


Myles

Canelo? Not a chance. Lara’s got this win booked.

Posted June 19, 2014 1:21 am 


TARK

Correction… The 6’3″ X 217 George Foreman

Posted June 19, 2014 1:16 am 


TARK

I remember Frazier super well… He beat Ali and knocked him flat on his back.

But then he faced a big, tall, strong, powerful puncher.. The 6’3″ X 210 George Foreman.. Foreman couldn’t box a lick but smashed the wide open Frazier with about everything he threw.. It was a scream.

I never laughed so hard in my life…

It was almost as funny as Frazier’s perfromance in Super Stars… Where he did a huge belly flop and almost drowned trying to swim… Those are the 2 funniest performances I’ve EVER seen from a so-called boxer.

Posted June 19, 2014 1:14 am 


SLIM

NOBODY mentioned “smoking Joe Fraizier” in that last thread about hard punchers…you cats have a real short memory!

Posted June 19, 2014 1:01 am 


SLIM

Lara better worry about that Canelo guy…If he beats Lara then Floyd has his way out of that one.

Posted June 19, 2014 12:59 am 


TARK

Ron Lyle.. “Ask me if Ali could punch”

Ali sure as hell didn’t put you down Lyle with his best shots.

Shavers did though. Now that boy could punch. Couldn’t take a punch though. Only you couldn’t put Shavers down or stop him.

But Quarry, Stander, Cobb, Holmes, Lyle, and other punchers DID put Shavers away.

Posted June 19, 2014 12:55 am 


TARK

Sredmond… “TARK doesn’t respect Mayweather for beating Cotto?”

Beating Cotto was fabulous… But how about fighting Trout? The slick southpaw who dominated Cotto as thoroughly as Floyd did???

Only Trout DIDN’T need Giant Q-Tips shoved up his nose holes – to stem the blood flow – something Floyd needed after a few cracks in the puss from Cotto’s masterful left.

But better yet!!! Why not fight Erislandy Lara??????

The man who boxed rings around Trout—shutting him down with utter mastery?

Posted June 19, 2014 12:32 am 


Pratt

Pulev takes Wilder in late rounds and drowns him in deep water.

Posted June 19, 2014 12:30 am 


Frankie Finubian from Brooklyn.

Hey Ron Lyle, could George Foreman punch??

Posted June 19, 2014 12:28 am 


Thurmal Underwear

SLIM

@Thurmal underwear…that’s not true, one of my favorite fighters was Kelly Pavlik before he got on the booze and got derailed from his training. I won money twice against bunch of brothers when he beat up Jermaine Taylor. So stay in your lane. Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:55 pm

^slim chance of me believing that. been in my lane, get a car. if kilts was a black american, you’d ride or die don’t lie goodbye.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:49 pm 


Ron Lyle

Ask me if Ali could punch …….

Posted June 18, 2014 11:29 pm 


Sonny Liston

Ask me if Ali could punch , I was on queer street on rubber legs in round 3 ……..

Posted June 18, 2014 11:28 pm 


GeorgeForeman

Ask me if Ali could punch …

Posted June 18, 2014 11:27 pm 


LarryHolmes

I looked terrified before the bell rang for the first round against Tyson and I pooped my trunks in the fourth round when Iron Mike landed that right hand . I always was a sucker for the right hand . I struggled to beat a Norton who was nowhere near as good as the 1973 version.

I never unified the title , refused to fight Page , Dokes , Coetzee , rematch Witherspoon and was gifted a decision against Carl Williams .

I was disqualified against Duane Bobick in the amateurs for refusing to fight.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:25 pm 


Carl Pratt

Wlad signed this Pulev fight because he could not get Stiverne in the ring due to King procrastinations and deviations. Wlad should beat Pulev and it will be an entertaining fight because Pulev will bring the fight to Wlad. If Pulev were not fighting Wlad but facing Deontay, I think Pulev would beat Wilder by TKO due to Wilders poor defense and inability to take a punch. Plus Pulev is a big dude and could face up to Wilders barages and take Wilder into deeper waters and drown him.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:21 pm 


SLIM

@D…you don’t know who your talking to obviously, computer tough guy. You ain’t sht! And you don’t nothing about boxing! I’ve won golden glove championships you frickin moron. What have you won?? Computer tough guy competitions?? LOL!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 11:10 pm 


Bill Patrice Jones

This is NOT an easy fight for Wladimir. Pulev is a very clever boxer who doesn’t over expend his energy. If he was a big puncher he might have a great chance. I’m glad this is happening because if Wladimir can get rid of his mandatory we have a great situation. If Wladimir beats Pulev, and Wilder knocks out Stiverne it gets very interesting. Wladimir needs a big performance, he’s been off color lately. The povetkin fight was shameful, and his defenses before then were god awful. I want the Wladimir of 2007-2011 back. The Wladimir who crushed Chris Byrd, murdered Sam Peter, dominated David Haye. Not the Wladimir who held Povetkin for the entire fight.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:09 pm 


D

slim, I would smash you dead with one scorching right hand. you’re a pissant who never fought anybody so stfu

Posted June 18, 2014 10:59 pm 


SLIM

@Thurmal underwear…that’s not true, one of my favorite fighters was Kelly Pavlik before he got on the booze and got derailed from his training. I won money twice against bunch of brothers when he beat up Jermaine Taylor. So stay in your lane. Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:55 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

SLIM

@Thurmal Underwear…quit bringing race into it, the Klits haven’t fought anybody period. And you have this moron Tark constantly bringing up David “TOE” Haye is just comical. They never beat a HOF fighterand they’ve been fighting for almost 20yrs. And NONE of the oponents they fought will EVER be HOF’s! Gimme a fricken break…

Posted June 18, 2014 7:12 pm

^a.) if he was a black american you’d defend him to the fullest. b.) i have nothing to do w/ what tark or anyone else has to say.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:36 pm 


SLIM

Klit will win this fight too! Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:30 pm 


SLIM

@Laj…good post! I should be working. But I can’t sit back let these fools take shots at “The Greatest Ali”…

Posted June 18, 2014 10:28 pm 


Joe

I hope this is a tough fight for Wlad. Pulev is very sound fundamentally so it could be a tough fight for Wlad

Posted June 18, 2014 10:23 pm 


laj

POulev will be landing jabs, problem is Wlad will be landing jabs, left hooks from the jab (only heavyweight that can do this), and the big right. That is the difference in this fight. Pulev will not go easy, he is there to win and has a warriors mentality. Good fight along with the other good fights lined up. Fury/Chisora, Jennings/Perez. Things are looking up in the division. Can’t wait for Wlad to have all belts around his waist. 3-4 more years, then he should bow out, and let’s see what cream rises to the top.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:07 pm 


laj

Slim they are giants, just solid rock giants. Wlad is 6’6″ ~235-245. Vitali 6’7″ 245-250. We are all keyboard warriors talking smack, when we should probably be working.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark tried to use Kevin Mcbride and Danny Williams to affirm the Klits quality, meanwhile he does not respect Mayweather for beating sure fire HOF fighter Miguel Cotto??

Posted June 18, 2014 9:41 pm 


Alexander

To see the 2 best heavyweights in the world meet up in their primes is truly something special. I look very forward to September 6th, 2014.

Posted June 18, 2014 9:26 pm 


Larry Holmes

I have beautiful black skin. that’s as black as my eyes ever got, sparring or fighting

Posted June 18, 2014 9:14 pm 


SLIM

@D…yeah just like I would beat you to trash. Computer tough guy. Never put on glove in your life, get lost your just trolling anyway.

Posted June 18, 2014 9:11 pm 


D

leapai was 50 pounds bigger than frazier and 2 inches taller. he was still a midget compared to wladimir, who didn’t have to hold him, just beat him to trash

it was a bigger version of foreman-frazier

Posted June 18, 2014 9:08 pm 


SLIM

@Larry Holmes…you were interviewed and said you kept a black eye when you were his sparring partner you fool. Get outta here! I can tell you don’t know sht about boxing anyway. Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 9:06 pm 


SLIM

@D…shut that hole in your face talkin about the “GREATEST” you frickin retarded moron. You never put on a glove in your life. Have a nice day!

Posted June 18, 2014 9:04 pm 


Larry Holmes

Ali never gave me a black eye, lmao. Never saw the day he could beat me. I had to hold my punches or lose my job. I bragged about whipping Ali once and almost lost it.

And Slim, you ain’t Ali.

Posted June 18, 2014 9:03 pm 


SLIM

@Tark…He had to hug and hold against Frazier or he would’ve been killed. ANYBODY who thinks smoking Joe Frazier was some kind of joke or something. I have property I want to sell you in my backyard. Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 9:01 pm 


SLIM

@Laj…my bad they look like giants to me. What is their real size 6 7′ 250lbs. You guys quit takin this sht so serious. We’re all on hear havin fun talkin sht…right?

Posted June 18, 2014 8:58 pm 


TARK

Slim.., I shouldn’t talk about defense? Because Ali got hit so much??? Wladimir doesn’t hold as much as Ali did. Watch the first few rounds of Ali-Foreman and all of Ali-Frazier II.. Nothing but grabbing and wrestling by Ali.

Ali was wide open for jabs and left hooks. Bob Foster opened cuts on Ali’s eye and hurt him. If Foster were 40 pounds heavier he would have beaten Ali.

Jimmy Young and Larry Holmes stabbed Ali with jabs all night… Frazier, Cooper, and Banks sent Ali to the canvas with left hooks and Norton broke Ali’s jaw with a left hook… Ali had no body attack and pulled straight back from punches … an amateurish technique.

Combine all that with Ali’s lack of power and you don’t have a fighter who fare better against the K Bros than Tomasz Adamek… Chris Byrd… David Haye… or Eddie Chambers.

Meanwhile, Ali never faced anyone with size, strength, speed, or skills vaguely resembling Wladimir… The Wladimir of the last 10 years, post Emmanuel Steward is a complete heavyweight … Much different than the Wladimir of the first 8 years

Posted June 18, 2014 8:57 pm 


SLIM

@Larry Holmes…Yeah when you were fresh and I was washed up fool. But when you were my sparring partner you kept a black eye. Stay in your lane!

Posted June 18, 2014 8:55 pm 


Larry Holmes

Ali’s ass was grass, and I was the lawn mower

Posted June 18, 2014 8:38 pm 


D

ali took too many punches.

ali fagged out a lot. he had to lay on the ropes to rest for long periods, taking punches

ali sought shelter behind his gloves and took shot after shot. that’s why he’s suffering mental problems today and can’t even talk. he wasn’t in the shape wladimir is in at 38. ali had no defense

Posted June 18, 2014 8:36 pm 


2Pac

That is diabolical!!!!!Clay is the greatest of all time, pay him the respect he deserves, you SOB

ECAT
“The competition is weaker now that’s for sure”
Henry Cooper, Ali got knocked down by bum Cooper 27-8, 84kg
Karl Mildenberger, 88,4kg. BTW, Karl was the first southpaw to fight for the HW title and the only southpaw Ali ever faced! WK already faced 9, Vitali faced 4 and Lewis 0, if I remember correctly…
Sonny Liston, 99kg, had a bad left shoulder.
Floyd Patterson, 99kg, it took Ali 12 rounds to KO Patterson.
Chuvalo 1966 , 98kg, 34-11 !! He was coming off a loss against cruiser bum Corletti 86,6 kg, 11-2
Again Chuvalo 1972, 100kg, fought previously Christoper 8-22 and Chase 21-12.
Brian London, 35-13!! 91kg
William, 95kg, couldn’t train the entire year after a gun shot.
Featherfist Folley 91,6kg
Bonavena, 92,5 , he fought Ramos 23-11, Woody 14-6, Pires 15-5.
Joe Frazier 95kg
Shavers 95,7kg
Quarry, 89kg, who fought Harris 14-20
Evangelista, 94,8kg, 14-1, lost to Zanon 17-2
Dunn 30% KO’ratio, 33-12 whole career
Featherfist Young, 94,8kg
Bob Foster, 81kg
Ken Norton 1973, 95kg , fought Reno 7-6, lost to Garcia!!!
Archie Moore: 83kg, started to box at 63kg
Lubbers, 89kg
Foreman 99,7kg
Featherfist Wepner 20% KO’ratio, 102kg, knocked down Ali
Leon Spinks, 89kg, 6-0… Ali LOST!!
Ellis, 85,7kg started to box at 68kg.
Juergen Blin 90kg, 14% KO’ratio!!
*kg&rec at the time of the bout
Please forgive any typos, sent from iPhone
Posted June 18, 2014 12:05 pm

Posted June 18, 2014 8:26 pm 


laj

Slim, can you tell me which fight either Bro fought at 265, or even over 250? When you exaggerate too much you look foolish. I think before you were saying they were 285. Why don’t you just make it an even 7′ and 300 lbs? Go for it truth doesn’t matter to you.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:20 pm 


SLIM

@Tark…NO they will not be HOF’s. Quit talkin about defense cause the Klits on defense is hugging and being 6 7″ 265lbs. Lol!

Posted June 18, 2014 8:15 pm 


laj

Ali was not a hard hitting heavy weight. Anybody that follows boxing knows this. It is not rocket science. If you think he hits as hard as Haye, or Brewster, or Sanders, or most of the top ten today you are sadly mistaken. This doesn’t take away from his greatness. It actually enhances it as he remained on top with little power. Ali had a lifetime KO percentage of 60% many of them stoppages via cuts (his punches did cut very well) only 56% KO ratio in championship fights. These are the facts, he just was not a big puncher, although he was bigger than most of the fighters he was in the ring with. He had great stamina, good chin, and the will to win, don’t confuse that with power.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:09 pm 


TARK

Plus…, Many of the guys the K Bros beat will be HOF fighters in the future… World Champions usually get in the HOF about 20 or 30 years later.

A lot of HOF fighers were sh!t fighters anyway.

Take Ingemar Johansson… How long would he last with Wladimir Klitschko… The man had no defense at ALL!!!

He won only one (1) of 3 title fights and he’s in the HOF.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:05 pm 


SLIM

@laj…easy to say he didn’t hit hard 50yrs later relaxing sitting behind a computer huh??! Lol

Posted June 18, 2014 8:03 pm 


laj

Funny I have seen all of Wlads fights on TV here in the US. They have been on EPiX, NBC, HBO and ESPN. Someone has been under a rock, time to come out and see the real world, don’t be scared, it’s OK.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:02 pm 


TARK

SLIM…, Liston must have been about 45 when he fought Ali… Look at pictures of his face… He was a very old man.

George Foreman never could box a lick… That’s why feather punching Jimmy Young outboxed him as easily as Ali did.

Ken Norton got knocked out by every big puncher he faced with his defective cross-armed defense… Yet he was able to break Ali’s jaw and beat the sh!t out of him.

The only good boxer his size, 6’3″ X 210 that Ali ever faced was Larry Holmes… Holmes beat Ali every minute of every round.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:00 pm 


laj

Ali never knocked anybody into the seats. Great fighter, but light puncher. Maybe he would have won against the Bros, maybe not, we will never know will we? What we do know now is that we have a good fight coming up and that Pulev is a good fighter and will likely fall victim to the better man Wlad.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:57 pm 


SLIM

As far as Tyson goes, that would’ve been a good squab with both in their primes. Klit might have a chance if he didn’t get caught. He could’ve hit held and hugged like he does now and Tyson would have been frustrated…

Posted June 18, 2014 7:54 pm 


SLIM

@Tark…None of the fighters they fought will EVER be HOF’s period. They’ve been fighting for almost 20 years. Also athletes burn out at different times of their career, anybody who knows anything about sports knows that. Ali won the “Heavy weight belt” against Liston at 22yrs old. If either Klit faced Ali when both were 22 the Klits would be knocked into the dam audience…you would think they had seats for the fight! Lol!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 7:50 pm 


TARK

Plus Mariusz Wach a Wladimir Klitschko victim smashed Kevin McBride unconscious, and put him in a coma… Mike Tyson couldn’t hurt the huge McBride with his best pounches and quit in his corner.

Vitali Klitschko KO’d Danny Williams… The very same Danny Williams who KO’d Mike Tyson.

Tyson and Holyfield refused to fight the Klitschkos… but they DID fight guys who the Klitschkos knocked out… Easier pickings — but they still got their asses beaten by the K Bro victims.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:35 pm 


TARK

Slim… There are more human beings on the planet and more heavyweights than ever… and they’re bigger, stronger, and faster with every decade – just like in every other sport.

A huge slice of the planet didn’t have any apparatus for producing professional boxers until the 1990’s.. You had far less competition before that.. And the world population has doubled since the ‘60s.

Tyson couldn’t truck with Douglas… Holyfield… or Lewis… who were all OLDER than Tyson… so don’t joke about the height challenged midget.

When Ali was 36—two years younger than Wladimir Klitschko is now—He couldn’t even beat Little 197-pound Leon Spinks… By the time Wladimir is through he’ll have beaten more Heavyweight Champions, (at least 12) than any other Heavyweight Champion ever beat.

Those guys will all be in the HOF someday. You have to be retired for a few years before they start voting you in … so don’t be so stupid.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:29 pm 


syuck in a moment

Wlad is a forgotten man in America. His fights aren’t even on tv here.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:24 pm 


Anonymouse

Dappy

TARK and ECAT HATE each other i remember this debate.

ecat has another user id now.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:21 pm 


Anonymouse

Dappy

TARK and ECAT HATE each other i remember this debate.

ecat has another user id now.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:17 pm 


SLIM

But I will say this…It’s not their fault that the competition is weak as fuk. And if they were in the Ali era or Tyson era they probably would’ve beat a HOF fighter. But quit over hyping these cats. It’s ridiculous…have a nice day!

Posted June 18, 2014 7:15 pm 


SLIM

@Thurmal Underwear…quit bringing race into it, the Klits haven’t fought anybody period. And you have this moron Tark constantly bringing up David “TOE” Haye is just comical. They never beat a HOF fighterand they’ve been fighting for almost 20yrs. And NONE of the oponents they fought will EVER be HOF’s! Gimme a fricken break…

Posted June 18, 2014 7:12 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

if klits was a black american mothereffers would be all on his diznick. no question about it. that’s all it’s about.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:57 pm 


Jake

Ross Purrity knocked down Lennox Lewis twice in sparring with big gloves and head gear on

‘You have done a lot of work as a sparring partner, tell us about when you sparred with Lennox Lewis?
We were sparring using headgear and 16oz gloves. I knocked him down hard twice and they fired me for it. People don’t realize I am a big puncher. I have knockout power with both hands.’

Posted June 18, 2014 6:40 pm 


first timer

I logged in for a chat on boxing, but what I’m reading is Listen With Mother on Woman’s Hour. You b8tches need to douche your manginas. What a bunch of whiners.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:37 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Funny these haters have to go backwards a decade to criticize Wlad’s legacy. When you dominate the heavyweight division for a decade straight and beat all comers guess that’s what you have to do to feel better.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:34 pm 


Auzbox

It’s to bad that wlad is the heavyweight king, some people on here need to accept that he would be able to handle any era ever. Also look at the guys he has fought his last ten fights and how many losses they had had compared to some of the others going around, so called greats

Posted June 18, 2014 6:28 pm 


The Prince

If this is the same Palev that killed man with his power, then I respect Waldamir for making the risk. If this is what the past Vitali Wlad will do, then I just might become a fan.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:10 pm 


TARK

How many guys go 10 years without getting knocked down??? Wladimir is one of the few… After a few years with Emmanuel Steward Klitschko’s defense was damned near air tight.

All Wladimir’s defeats came before he got with Emmanuel Steward… Obviously he had a lot of technical issues for a long, long time.

Wladimir Klitschko.., “I was not a natural fighter like my brother Vitali… I needed to learn everything from scratch. I did everything wrong… Vitali didn’t need a great coach. He did everything right without too much correction.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:04 pm 


laj

Wlad was not in his prime physical years when he lost to Purrity, he was still growing and developing physically. He was in his prime physical years in the Sanders and Brewster fight, but far, far away from his prime years as a fighter.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:57 pm 


TARK

Wladimir never had a China-chin… Maybe you didn’t see that desperation right hander that David Haye landed in the 12th round. It sent a shower of sweat into the 3rd row of seats but didn’t phase Wladimir.

Corrie Sanders hit Wladimir with the kitchen sink… Wladimir kept getting up.

Peter floored him 3 times and he jumped right up without any problem each time.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:56 pm 


laj

Sredmond, if you think he looked fine you obviously do not know boxing. all you have to do is look at his foot movement when he came out in the fifht round. The doctor misdiagnosed the condition, Wlad left the hospital within 45 minutes of checking in and felt fine. Besides your argument is who would you rather have been, and my answer is the one who did the beating in all but 60 seconds of both fights and not the one taking the beating. So whay would you want ot be the one that took the beating SRedmond, you like a little S&M, just asking?

Posted June 18, 2014 5:55 pm 


TARK

The first Klitschko-Brewster fight was the weirdest fight ever… It was plain that Wladimir was struggling to maintain his focus and concentration even between rounds… He said he felt so bad and didn’t want to alert Brewster’s corner to his condition… He was going for an early KO because he could barely think or move on his feet… Eventually he started drifting off.

All of this was in legal briefs from Wladimir’s lawyers, seeking a federal investigation into why WK’s urine samples and blood work disappeared from the hospital… Millions of dollars were made on last minute bets on Brewster that night, and Wladimir swears he was drugged.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, I am HARD on Wlads losses because they occurred in a boxers prime physical years against guys he was matched with for an easy WIN… These were NOT supposed to be his hard nights!

Posted June 18, 2014 5:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Wlad will eventually wind down and depending on his status in the sport that has to be taken into account.. If Sergio had been losing LIKE Holyfield I would have looked at things different but he was still the MW Champ undefeated for years…Wlad is getting to an age where time is gonna catch up to him eventually but he will be fine if he keeps digging up the Mormecks of the world after 2 year layoffs… Wilder has TERRIBLE technique he is just BIG and strong lets get real..

Posted June 18, 2014 5:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, Wlad defeated Brewster handily in their second fight and how well he was doing in their first fight is irrelevant because he got caught and defeated which is what boxing is all about!! You guys wanna give extra cred for leading before losing, Klits looked fine to me in the 5th round beating on Brewster till Lamon toughed it out and found that china chin… Dr Margaret Goodman diagnosed Klits with a concussion postfight the man got clipped…(Nothing strange about that to me in a boxing ring)

Posted June 18, 2014 5:43 pm 


TARK

Wilder could possibly be a real threat to an aging Wladimir.

He’s very young and fast… He’s got an unbelievable reach and punch… If he gets the right fights he could be very dangerous…

He blew Malik Scott and Sergie Liakhovich away like a hurricane with the first shots he threw. Scott was ahead of Chisora in the 6th when he got fast counted.. Liakhovich went 9 with Jennings.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:41 pm 


laj

Sredmond, again distorting facts, Wlad owned Brewster all but 60 seconds of their first fight. So I guess wlad didn’t knock Brewster down in the fourth round of the first fight and otherwise batter him. If you can’t admit there was something strange about that fight, fine, be blind, but to say Brewster was battering Wlad is just simply fantasy. Wlad was tripping over his own feet and the ref. He was on queer street before Brewster ever hit him, go back and watch his foot work coming out for the last round. Wlad lost, but I would rather have been Wlad in both fights, Brewster took a beating in both.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:37 pm 


TARK

Sredmond lies…, “Big McCline got beat by a younger version of Byrd despite his size.”

Wladimir beat a younger version of Byrd than McCline fought… He beat Byrd 14 years ago in 2000… Byrd fought McCline in 2004.

BTW.., Wladimir is 38.. Are you going to give him a break if he loses at 39 or 40??? HELLL NOOO… You’ll be the first one to jump all over him.

However.. I don’t expect him to lose in the next couple years.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:32 pm 


Anonymous

turbohamster,tark,ecat,laj = gangbang

Posted June 18, 2014 5:32 pm 


ECAT

Anon… do you claim that nutrition and medicine are worse than 50 years ago? That training methods are worse than 50 years ago? Or preparation methods? Athletes get better and better generation for generation.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:24 pm 


ECAT

Right, there’s never been so many heavyweights…there are more fighters from more countries than ever! Soviets weren’t eben allowed to compete in pro boxing back then…

Posted June 18, 2014 5:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Turbo, you cannot backdate history because some other countries were getting their political landscape together or simply could NOT hang… That’s WEAK…

Posted June 18, 2014 5:20 pm 


turbo hamster in gangnam

The whole world boxes now. In the 1970s it was hardly anyone. It’s a sign of weakness when one country dominates like back then.
I bet you think Carl Lewis is greater than usain bolt. Sampras over Nadal and Federer. Etc.

You have been FOOLED by the media.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:17 pm 


SREDMOND

How is Jameel McCline historically significant? Povetkin? beating an OLD version of Byrd? Big McCline got beat by a younger version of Byrd despite his size, he was no ones upper level HW… Jameel McCline “historically significant” Tark you don’t care how foolish you sound, I will give you that…

Posted June 18, 2014 5:16 pm 


SREDMOND

Wlad beat Mercer when Ray was 41 years OLD another faded version of a once very good fighter you are trying to sell… Lewis fought it out with him when Ray was 34 I believe and still had something left…

Posted June 18, 2014 5:13 pm 


SREDMOND

Remember Wlad and Lamon Brewster are 1-1, and Wlad looked WAY more pitiful getting carried to his stool than Brewster who had eye surgery after Liahovitch and was mercifully spared further punishment by Buddy McGirt…

Posted June 18, 2014 5:12 pm 


turbo hamster in gangnam

Redmond you are a dog barking at the caravan.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Did you really try to sell him beating a 40 year old Jean Marc Mormeck who was only effective as Cruiserweight?? Mormeck was nobodys HW and he had been inactive for 2 years when Wlad leaned all over him and wore down that Grandpa..

Posted June 18, 2014 5:10 pm 


TARK

Wladimir has an impressive list of historically important opponents… David Haye… Hasim Rahman… Lamon Brewster… Sultan Ibragimov… Sam Peter… Ruslan Chagaev… Alexander Povetkin… Chris Byrd… Jean Marc Mormeck… Ray Mercer… Frans Botha… Eddie Chambers… Tony Thompson… Jameel McCline… and many others.

The list includes 10 Heavyweight Champions — and if he beats Kubrat Pulev and Bermane Stiverne that will be 12 Heavyweight Champions.

Who did Joe Frazier beat who held the title??? Only Ali and Ellis who held the Heavyweight Title… Marciano beat only Charles, Walcott, and Louis who held the Heavyweight Title… Dempsey only beat Willard and sharkey… Tunney only beat Dempsey… Johnson only beat Jeffries… Jeffries only beat Corbett and Fitzimmons… Liston only beat Patterson… Patterson only beat Johansson.

Like I said… Historically, Wladimir’s record is looking more and more impressive.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:02 pm 


Dappy

ECAT. did you study under the mighty tark.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:08 pm

ECAT spent many a happy hour under the mighty TARK who filled his many gaps in his boxing knowledge plugging him real hard.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:00 pm 


Anonymous

doc

@ BEARS: FYI, the proper Latin wording is “Veni, Vidi, Vici” translated in English as ” I came, I saw, I conquered”

Posted June 18, 2014 3:09 pm

Bears is an imbecile.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:56 pm 


SREDMOND

This is a discussion of Evander during the period you guys are lauding his foes for beating “The best of him”…..Consecutive losses & New York suspension

On October 4, 2003, Holyfield lost to James Toney by TKO when his corner threw in the towel in the ninth round. At age 42, Holyfield returned to the ring to face Larry Donald on November 13, 2004. He lost his third consecutive match in a twelve round unanimous decision.

In August 2005 it had been reported that the New York State Athletic Commission had banned Evander Holyfield from boxing in New York due to “diminishing skills” despite the fact that Holyfield had passed a battery of medical tests
..

Posted June 18, 2014 4:56 pm 


Anonymous

Bears this is a thread about Wlad and Kubrat. Go take a wet w@nk over Mayweather someplace else you idiot.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, I NEVER bought that RJJ “went down in weight thing” as an excuse he defeated Tarver the first time (something people forget) and dug deep in the latter rounds to score points.. Roy just lost a step at 35 and Tarver landed the right shot and that’s all she wrote… And I am an RJJ fan…

Posted June 18, 2014 4:52 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, a younger version of Holy was able to take blows from Lewis, Bowe, Tyson, Foreman and Mercer wonder why at 41 his ability to take a shot from Toney had diminished? and Toney TKOed him if I recall the OLD man simply could no longer fight at that needed level…

Posted June 18, 2014 4:51 pm 


SREDMOND

James Toney beat Holyfield when he was 41 years old and had gone 1 for 3 including a draw, he was direct off a loss to Byrd… The lengths you guys will go to try elevate Klits really makes me laugh… Tark was swearing the other day that Martinez was no big win for Cotto coming up in weight when Sergio was Lineal Champ with 6 defenses under his belt and had not lost in YEARS… NOW he wants to LAUD Toney for his GREAT win over a supposedly “Peak 41 year old Holyfield” Tragic

Posted June 18, 2014 4:48 pm 


sthomas

There are billions of people on the planet and more international competition than every yet there’s been no competition for WK for about 10 years? Someone please explain how this would be possible???

Posted June 18, 2014 4:46 pm 


SREDMOND

How was Evander “on top” when Byrd beat him? he had 2 wins in 6 or 7 fights including a draw against Lewis that is considered an EPIC robbery of historical proportions?

Posted June 18, 2014 4:40 pm 


TARK

Sam Peter actually DID outpoint James Toney TWICE…

Toney kept saying he was going to send Peter back to Africa on a banana boat … but he got outboxed.

That was after Toney laid down a beating on Holyfield.. Stopping Evander with some of the same blows that didn’t bother Sam Peter at all.. Peter walked right through Toney’s best shots.. JT didn’t knock out too many top heavyweights, but he got to Evander big time.

Toney also beat John Ruiz to briefly win a Heavyweight Championship.. They stripped him.. Toney’s doctor gave Toney some medicine to help heal a biceps separation before that fight. The medicine contained a steroid… In fact Toney got flagged twice for taking steroids so he apparently doesn’t read labels very well.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, its sad that you want to sell wins over ANTIQUATED versions of once Great boxers as on par with a peak or even decent version of the fighter.. Old age is a reality in sports I guess the guys knocking out Roy Jones these days should be First Ballot HOFers right??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted June 18, 2014 4:38 pm 


laj

Sredmond, all I see from you for these fighters losses is excuses, excuses, excuses. Wlad lost I can deal with that, but for you any other fighter that you like loses and all we get is excuses. My point has always been all great HVWTS (except for Rocky) have lost, so get over it.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:36 pm 


laj

Sredmond, here you go again deciding when a fighter is washed up and when they are in their prime. By your logic Vitali was washed up at 40, and Wlad is already washed up. Age doesn’t mean a fighter is washed up. Holy was still at the top when Bryd beat him. Admit it and you shall be set free. By the way if you state he was washed up and was still fighting for a championship, that doesn’t say much about the level of competition at that time does it.?

Posted June 18, 2014 4:31 pm 


laj

Sredmond, let’s see that was the same over-the-hill Holy that beat up peak Rahman the fight before Bryd, and was fighting for a championship? Bryd was a fool to go down in weight, he looked sick. Same problem RJJ had when he went up and then down in weight. What does weight have to do with this. Others bring up the weight issue and I answer with the requested stats. The only time I ever bring up weight as an issue is when Wlad lost 8 lbs with the flu in the three weeks between fights with Purrity and Wlad not having the ability to continue knocking the bigger man around for 12 rounds.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Toney beating a washed up 40 year old Holy means what exactly? c’mon man make sense…

Posted June 18, 2014 4:27 pm 


belly

excellent match up, way different from 40 years ago, now the whole world is allowed to fight for the championships and look who is fighting a Ukrainian and a Bulgarian, fantastic stuff! good luck to both fighters.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:26 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

SLIM

HELLO???…Ecat, Tark, Laj. Anybody want $100??? Name a HOF that either Klit beat…
Posted June 18, 2014 4:17 pm

^$100 wow baller. lennox ran to retirement. keep your money and buy a girlfriend nerd.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:22 pm 


laj

Slim, do you understand how the HOF works? Tell me slimey, how long after they retire does a boxer get nominated to the HOF. You can’t beat anyone that is a HOf fighter at the time you fight them. The better question is how many fighters would have been champions and possible HOF fighters if the Bros weren’t around stopping anybody from competing in the last 10 years. Fact Fraziers only big win was Ali he wouldn’t have made the HOf without beating Ali, same with Norton, but none of them were in the HOF when Ali was still fighting.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:21 pm 


laj

Sredmon the same Pudgy former middleweight that Stopped Holly without breaking a sweat.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:18 pm 


SLIM

HELLO???…Ecat, Tark, Laj. Anybody want $100??? Name a HOF that either Klit beat…

Posted June 18, 2014 4:17 pm 


SLIM

I will give ANYONE a $100 if they can name one HOF fighter the Klits beat…seriously.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:06 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Anonymous

wlad has been knocked out 3 times never mentioned him with ali holmes jack johnson joe louis this bum has beat nobody and has been again knocked out 3 times three strikes you are out

^actually that’s baseball dipsh!t

Posted June 18, 2014 4:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, Byrd beat an OLD azz version of Holyfield and by mentioning Byrd you discredit your thesis on “SMALL HW’s” because Byrd ended his career as a LHW getting knocked out… He overachieved at HW but he was grossly overmatched physically against Wlad which is one of your MAIN points Laj, quoting the size of boxers! given your stance how much cred should Wlad get? Unless you are backtracking and flip flopping??

Posted June 18, 2014 3:51 pm 


SLIM

Please stop discrediting this boxing sight by calling David “TOE” Haye a good fighter. Hes a BUM just like the rest of the Klits competition…Have a nice day!

Posted June 18, 2014 3:47 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, additionally Lewis avenged all his losses which is a fact you omit.. AGAIN I think what stands out for Wlad is that of the HW’s in question he is the only one to get TKOed 3x during a boxers prime years and I remember Lewis got some grief for his losses that said 2x in a 5 fight span is unprecendeted… Ali, Foreman, Louis, Lewis, Holyfield, Holmes, Tyson and Holy NONE got splatted like that during their physical primes 2x in 5 fights? To nobodies? again Wlad has stayed up nicely since saving his career against Samuel Peter but it is what it is…

Posted June 18, 2014 3:47 pm 


Anonymous

LAJ do you go to justin bieber concerts.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:45 pm 


laj

Anonymous, I have no problem with you or others called ali the greatest, personally I think that honor at this time belongs to Joe Louis, but Ali is definitely top 3. I have no problems giving fighters their props. I use Ali as an example because of his greatness. what I have trouble with is others denying Wlad his.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:43 pm 


Alexander

Calling any man who is brave enough to step into the ring a “bum” is terrible. Amazing what keyboard tough guys some of you are. I would like to see people call Purrity or Brewster a “bum” to their face. Sadly Sanders is no longer with us as he bravely shielded his niece with his body when a thief entered a restaurant they were in and began shooting. 3 very brave men who all beat Wladimir and no doubt felt great pride in their accomplishment only to be called “bums” years later on the internet by keyboard tough guys.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:40 pm 


laj

Sredmond And the first guy to stop Tyson was Douglas, and the last two guys were McBride and Williams, so what is the point? Holy had 58% KO ration at HVWT, and only 22% in championship fights, yet he stopped Tyson. Also what about LL losses? Basically you discount others losses, and a loss is a loss, but try and make Wlads the end of all. Wlad has 65 fights at HVWT, LL had only 43 Holy only 36 with a 26-10 record with a 22% KO percentage in HVWT championships (they only one he could stop was Tyson). Are these fighters still great, and if so why isn’t Wlad?

Posted June 18, 2014 3:37 pm 


Anonymous

yes sir,when you hear retards comparing toe haye with ali than you know esb is a comedy site.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:32 pm 


laj

PPV came in after HBO and the greed started ruining boxing. Most Ali’s fights were on network TV. Wlad and Vitali used to have a policy that their fights not be PPV as they thought this cheated boxing fans. Wlad sells out 60,000 plus arenas. Ali couldn’t get 3000 fans to his second fight with Liston. What does any of this have to do with greatness?

Posted June 18, 2014 3:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, who called Wlad “A Bum” he is far from that he is a HOF fighter no question but his reign must and will be kept in perspective by rational boxing minds… Wlad got stopped 3x in his prime, two of the first 3 guys to stop Tyson were ATGS Holyfield and Lewis… But I know Purriy and Sanders were right alongside those 2??

Posted June 18, 2014 3:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Sorry Tark David Haye does NOT rate at HW he won the title once from Valuev and fought there UNDER 10x, he is NOT Evander who defeated a HOFER, fought Epic battles at the weight and was Champion 4x….Its SAD that you tried to sell Haye as a proxy for Wlads HW Greatness… Your BUTT partner Bears used to BASH something awful…

Posted June 18, 2014 3:26 pm 


laj

Tyson was knocked out 5 times, guess he is a bum also. LL twice he is a bum, Holy twice, he is a bum, Vitali has two stoppage losses guess he is a bum, Joe Louis got stopped twice, another bum. Stupid to call someone with losses over 10 years ago and second most title defenses in history a bum.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:26 pm 


laj

Anonymous, get some balls and real name instead of hiding behind the same name used by anyone afraid to show themselves.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:24 pm 


laj

Hi Tark, you forgot Bryd, that easily beat Holy, and was number #1 contender for 4 years while LL had the belt. Why didn’t LL fight him? Bryd beat Vitali basically the same way LL beat him, by fluke, but historically it is still significant, as is Chageav, Mercer and others Wlad has beaten.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:23 pm 


Anonymous

bang on sredmond.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:21 pm 


laj

Sredmond, Lennox Lewis legs were still wobbling after the ref stopped the fight. He was out on his feet. Besides you still conveniently avoid the question. Because LL lost to two C level fighters by KO that keeps him from being great by your logic correct? If you agree with this statement, then I’ll let your criticism of Wlad go. You seem to have a great deal of difficulty accepting Wlad’s losses while accepting LL, Holy, Ali, and many others that lost to equally poor opposition. Obviously Wlad should not have lost those fights, but he did, that does not mean he hasn’t redeemed himself. The best sign of greatness is to overcome defeats, learn from them and come back better. Wlad has done all this, so why are you having so much problem with it?

Posted June 18, 2014 3:19 pm 


eddie

anonymous. the mighty tark classic.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:18 pm 


TARK

Sredmond claims.., “Wladimir never beat ANYONE that really has historical cred.” … WRONG fart breath

Here’s some historically important fighters Wladimir beat.

David Haye was a 2-Division World Champion who dominated and KO’d former Heavyweight Champion John Ruiz — who beat ATG Evander Holyfield. Haye may not be done fighting and may accomplish a lot more.

Tomasz Adamek was a 2-Division World Champion. But actually I think it was Vitali who beat him … so strike that one.

Hasim Rahman was a 2 X Heavyweight Champion who knocked out ATG Lennox Lewis… Wladimir beat him with ease.

Lamon Brewster was a Heavyweight Champion who upset ATG Wladimir Klitschko … lol, but that made Brewster as historically important as Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall.

Sultan Ibragimov was a Heavyweight Champion who beat ATG Evander Holyfield. Mike Tyson said Ibragimov was a great heavyweight.

Sam Peter was a Heavyweight Champion who KO’d Heavyweight Champion Oleg Maskaev.. Maskaev KO’d Hasim Rahman TWICE.. and Hasim Rahman KO’d ATG Lennox Lewis.

Eddie Chambers beat Heavyweight Champion Sam Peter. Peter was historically important because of the above reasons.

Wladimir handed Heavyweight Champion Alexander Povetkin his ONLY defeat… Povetkin very easily KO’d former Heavyweight Champion Hasim Rahman – a champion who KO’d ATG Lennox Lewis.

Wladimir gave Povetkin the only 4 knockdowns of his entire career.

And Wladimir is only 38. He still has a few years to go if he fights as long as his brother Vitali.. Vitali had to take 4 years off to rehab his stiff knees.. Fortunately Wladimir has no knee problems and is better than ever.

If Wladimir goes on to KO Wilder… Pulev… Fury… Jennings etc… and if they all go on to become ATG Heavyweight Champions — that will easily put Wladimir on top of the heap all time… So far – so good. Wladimir is reaching historically important records for ALL Heavyweight Champions, and is unbeaten in over 10 years.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Doc, trying to help Bears in anyway absent assisted suicide is a monumental waste of time, but I applaud your effort..

Posted June 18, 2014 3:17 pm 


ECAT

80’s?? re-read my post you ignorant fool!

ECAT

Haters,say what you want but VK and WK are both ATG HW’s and have cleaned this era out!

And no, this era isn’t weak! HW division has produced good fighters in the last 15 years…The 60′s have not seen ANYTHING as strong and big as VK’s and WK’s opponents… Athletes get better, bigger & stronger! For the first time in boxing history tall, athletic and skilled boxers (Lewis, Vitali and Wlad) rule the division.What was called “heavyweight” in Ali’s times would run as”cruiserweight” now…Hell, the female HW division starts at 81kg, in Ali’s time the HW started at 79kg!

Posted June 18, 2014 11:19 am

Posted June 18, 2014 3:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Eric, Sanders quality has been GROSSLY overstated and I stand by that assertion…Ali and Tyson are known to have been unusually fast for the division.. You will NOT be finding pudgy Sanders on anyones list of fastest HW’s… All boxers have had issues and Wlad is dominating this ERA that said the excuses and weak defenses of his losses don’t resonate with me.. If his fans were secure they would accept the nature of those “L’s” and move on, instead GOONS like Bears and Co try to move heaven and earth to expunge his record… Do you see me vacating Lewis losses?

Posted June 18, 2014 3:11 pm 


doc

@ BEARS: FYI, the proper Latin wording is “Veni, Vidi, Vici” translated in English as ” I came, I saw, I conquered”

Posted June 18, 2014 3:09 pm 


Anonymous

ECAT. did you study under the mighty tark.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, that’s a WEAK rebuttal you said that Lewis “could not beat the 10 count on 2 occasions” that’s 1000% wrong no debate… I won’t sweat the refs decision but Lewis was not on his back and counted out against McCall… Learn boxing Bro!

Posted June 18, 2014 3:08 pm 


laj

Sredmond, the ref stopped the fight because LL couldn’t continue. The fight did not continue, because Lenny was still out. That doesn’t answer the basic question does it? I asked you if all these fighters are also not great because they lost and got KO’d?

Posted June 18, 2014 3:01 pm 


Anonymous

The irony of Bears asking if people know anything about boxing, when the multiple verbal diarrhoea he passes as posts owe nothing to boxing knowledge, but a pathetic schoolboy, schoolyard game of one-upmanship. In the pathetic words of Bears, ‘Game, set and match.’

Posted June 18, 2014 3:01 pm 


eric

Sanders got to klitschko first . Sanders did have fast hands for a heavyweight, video don’t lie sedrmen.

This is boxing anything can happen.

The most rotten male bullie in my neighborhood growing up got beat up by my sister and she was on roller skates, I pulled her off him and said you shouldn’t beat up boys shannon.
She got to him first, it happens to the best of us.

If Sanders couldn’t fight at all then maybe you got a point, but trying to act like wladmir sucks do to a fight a million years ago isn’t even relevant at this point.

We can go over most HOF’ers/ future HOF… records and find issues, Lennox Lewis and tyson is just two examples that based on your logic/ assessment falls into the same category but you refuse to acknowledge that but only want what your mind deems to be true and or relevant and fits your format.

You are not very consistent my friend.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:00 pm 


Anonymous

ECAT The 80’s havent seen anythying as strong and big as Wlads opponents ????? you dont know boxing lol

Posted June 18, 2014 3:00 pm 


BEARS SHOW SOME RESPECT

this thread is about

wladimir and kubrat !!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, the Klits have almost 200 million citizens of the US that look like them to sell their bouts to and they cannot get it done.. Guys are just NOT watchable and their opponents are tragic for the most part…#Germany

Posted June 18, 2014 2:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, CLEARLY he is an outlier (Floyd) he makes more $$$$ than anyone in history but that ALSO shows the appetite that the public has for a boxer that captures their interest… Wlad fights in the HW division which was the MOST high profile in the sport but Wladdy is pretty much exiled to Germany because his multiple borefests have convinced the public that paying a nickel for a Klits PPV would be money poorly spent…Manny is from the Philippines and yet he was able to make big bank in the US, why not Wlad??? simple answer the guy is not exciting despite being efficient… Most boxers are not stars but the HW Champ having little respect in the US is Sad…

Posted June 18, 2014 2:56 pm 


TKO 6 Forever

Bears this is a thread about Wlad and Kubrat. Go take a wet w@nk over Mayweather someplace else you idiot.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:55 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

floyd mayweather is not the standard. he is the aberration. the outlayer. pretending he is the measuring stick is dumb as hell.

i have multiple afro amero buddies who dont watch boxing at all but order a fraud fight and have a party. the occasion? frauds fighting. do they know anything about boxing? no

lol!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, CLEARLY you never saw Lewis vs McCall you say “he could not beat the 10 count 2x” funny he was up at the count of 6 looking to continue and the ref stopped it… Rahman is the guy who laid him out COLD a favor that he brutally returned and he stopped McCall on his feet… Wlad sent his OLDER brother a text message with a “Sad face” emoticon saying “Beat up Sanders and Purrity for me Vitali” whereas Lewis handled his OWN business… Get your facts straight Poppy!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:46 pm 


eric

I do agree with sedrmen that pulev is just a solid fighter, maybe slightly a bit more, we will see when he faces an -A- level fighter in wladmir.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Man will you fools STOP talking about Corrie Sanders like he was something special GTFOH “his hands were so fast that he lost almost every time he stepped up” he was basically a regional fighter that got to Klits, and beyond that the trail goes cold… If another Big time HW got smashed by Sanders they would get grief too…!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:43 pm 


Boxtradamus

Wlad wins this one in STYLE. He has the SIZE and SKILLS to absolutely destroy Pulev. This fight won’t be close or go the distance. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:43 pm 


ECAT

You’re obviously a very immature and insecure boy…you should work on that…!!!

Guys like you are the reason WHY most women prefer older / mature men…they are very confident and have that “I don’t give a fu*k” persona…

And they KNOW what the h3ll they are doing in BED, unlike

immature and stupid boys like you, Anonymous.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:43 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

what would a klitschko thread be without black sredmond hating on klitschkos using terms like redneck, cave dweller hick and peckerwood.

people get banned from this site for calling people ni@gers but sredmond says racial slurs all day every day.

this is unreal east side boxing GTFO

Posted June 18, 2014 2:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, even in present day $$$$ (you do not understand inflation or the time value of money) because you are an IDIOT… Ali made a TON of cash before Cable and Internet Klits is behind a couple of Welterweights and a newbie like Canelo made almost as much as him this year… How much was the purse bid for Pulev??? 7 mill and some change? Man Mayweather would not fart for a portion of that amount that means Wlad earns what 75% of that pot????

Posted June 18, 2014 2:41 pm 


TKO 6 Forever

Wlad does not do well with people his own size…and Corrie was a BIG guy that was unimpressed with all the hype about Wlad. He called him out on being weak before the fight and got Wlad out of his game. I dont think that mattered….cause the first time Corrie laid gloves on Wlad he had him wobbling down queer street.

To answer, yeah, flat out…Wlad wanted nothing to do with Corrie ever again. He probably sighed a breath of relief when he heard he died, so he could stop looking over his shoulder afraid of him.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:41 pm 


TKO 6 Forever

Why did Wladimir Klitschko duck the Corrie Sanders rematch?
I’m sick of these k-bro clowns playing tag team in boxing. If someone smacks you silly you avenge the loss yourself, not send your bro to do it.

Same applies with the Chris Byrd fights. He pwned Vitali and made him quit on his stool, so little bro had to avenge the loss.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:40 pm 


ECAT

You’re obviously a very immature and insecure boy…you should work on that…!!!

Guys like you are the reason WHY most women prefer older / mature men…they are very confident and have that “I don’t give a fu*k” persona…

And they KNOW what the h3ll they are doing in BED, unlike

immature and stupid boys like you, Anonymous.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:39 pm 


Anonymous

ECAT. david toe haye,you sure know hw boxing. lol.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:38 pm 


Shelley Finkel

Anonymous

BEARS DON’T YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ??????

YOU ARE 24/7 ON ESB !!!!!!

Bears is in a three-way with TARK and Mork!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:37 pm 


eric

Over the past 10 years no heavyweights even have or had a chance to become -A-level because the k bros beat them up some to not return at all.

These guys are very dominant/ was in vitili case.

Corrie sanders was a big guy with some of the fastest hands in the heavyweight division, Sanders was a underachieving boxer, always liked his aggressive style and he was dangerous in 7 rounds or less for anyone. Sanders jumped on wladmir, got to him first and closed the show.

Klitschko ran out of gas against Brewster, totally obvious, wladmir was out of shape.

I find it laughable that the same poster s who defend Lennox Lewis to no end, as being out of shape against vitili, but find it incomprehensible, absolutely impossible for wladmir to be out of shape against Brewster. Lol

Posted June 18, 2014 2:35 pm 


laj

Sredmond, you keep believing you are the sayer of who is an A level fighter. Facts LL was stopped cold, KO’d couldn’t beat the 10 count in two fights, against fighters no better than those Wlad lost to, Ali lost to a D level fighter when he was 2 years younger than Wlad is now. That that mean neither of these fighters are great? Bryd had a better HWT championship record than Foreman, Bowe, Holy, etc. In fact Bryd and Iggy both beat Holy like no tomorrow. He was an easy fight for them. Even Easier for former Middleweight Toney, a featherfisted Heavyweight that stoipped Holy. So now Holy, LL, etc are bums because they had losses on their record? That is basically what you are saying. Babe Ruth Struck out, as did Hank Aaron, so they were all bums to. It must be so, Sredmond said it.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Wlads statistical record is impressive problem is the quality of his wins.. Never beat ANYONE that really has historical cred… Did you mention Pulev? Man you gotta be kidding he is just a solid challenger, nothing more the boy ain’t accomplished anything crazy, outpointing a 60 year old Thompson? at least he did better than that other wanna be Wlad clone who got dusted 2x by a Grandpa with no muscle tone.. (Price)

Posted June 18, 2014 2:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Ahhhhhhhhhh Bears OF COURSE in your FANTASY world what actually happened NEVER matters HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Those jump hooks Ross the Boss landed on Wladdy necessitated his being SAVED BOOM loss on the record… OF COURSE you have a conspiracy or mitigating circumstance to explain away the disgraceful upset that Klits endured… Martians? Rednecks? Muff Divers? who came out of the canvas and held Wlads feet so Purrity could tag him up??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:32 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

number one in the record books! beating haye povetkin byrd chambers chagaev ibragimov wach thompson peter and brewster in dominant fashion and soon to be pulev and everyone else.

number one in the record books!!! over holmes and clay and louis!!!

being disgraceful never looked so good or paid so well!! being “disgracefule” in sredmonds eyes which by that he means “being white”

wonder who has made more money wlad or clay?

Posted June 18, 2014 2:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, that is NOT “A known Fact” how long was Sanders remotely relevant? 10 seconds? the man was a C plus level fighter that Klit fans have tried to elevate because he had Wlad curled up on the canvas and looking like a WIMP, after what the 2nd round? That was the UPSET of the year

Posted June 18, 2014 2:30 pm 


laj

Sredmond, it is a well known fact that LL avoided Sanders. if you are too ignorant to understand that than so be.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:28 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS DON’T YOU HAVE A GIRLFRIEND ??????

YOU ARE 24/7 ON ESB !!!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:25 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

quoting

Posted June 18, 2014 2:25 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

sorry sredmond quiting official records does not cut the mustard. please describe in detail wald purritty!

oh wait u never watched it!!!

thats your MO u talk about fights u never watched as though you have a phukin clue and u do not. you are a con. lol @ u and those that buy your con

Posted June 18, 2014 2:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears HISTORY says these things! look it up Wlad got stopped 3x in his first 45 bouts to nobodies, did he or did he NOT get stopped 2x in 5 fights? There is NOT a single longstanding Champ I can think of that absorbed such disgrace his brother told him to RETIRE after the Brewster beating…

Posted June 18, 2014 2:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Evander Holyfields one of the GREATEST ever, easily the BEST Crusier and 4x HW Champ… He stopped Iron Mike when HE (Holyfield) was an 11-1 underdog, he avenged the Moorer loss and owns a win over Bowe who was himself an Undisputed HW Champion who retired with one loss… Whereas Wlad was stopped 3x in his prime by NOBODIES including a BUM… His fans had to resort to pathetic rationales like “gassing” and “poisoning” to hide their SHAME!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:22 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

joe herron called sredmond “NUTS”

Posted June 18, 2014 2:21 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

eric- LOL!!!!!

nobody says these thigs about wlad but desperate sracemond waging racewar!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, SORRY you have it backwards Ross Purrity STOPPED Wlad not vice versa… You always get bouts WRONG, ie “Froch jacked Wards jaw” when the narrative of the contest was Froch losing WIDELY, being outclassed and discussing retirement AFTER losing to Ward… One man undefeated the OTHER defeated by Ward… AGAIN Purrity NEVER lost to Wlad Klits…

Posted June 18, 2014 2:19 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

simple as this who would u out your money on in a rematch wlad vs purritty and sanders? who would you bet your house on rather!

who is GREATER?

we have racist bkack sredmond talking smack on the white guys here. thats all. ask him who his fav white fighters in history are.

tell u what wlad did not get wooped a million times by morrer, bowe, lennox, byrd, ruiz, larry donald, and valueve either. wlad never had to scramble to pick up trinkets around other heavyweights who were clearly better than him. people would favor wlad against a peak holy and bowe and probably anyone else.

jim rome had wlad on his shos and jim was laughing sAying he knows wlad would dominate even a prime cassius clay.

sredmonds thoughts do not jive with anyone says, thinks, and writes about the great wlad klitschko who is knocking past greats off the record books and putting his own name there. when its all said and done wlads name will be at the top! BAHAHAHAHhhahahahah or already is!!!!!!!!!!!

GREATNESS!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:19 pm 


eric

I also belive serdmen has pointed out that when wladmir was 6 years old, a playmate got wladmir in a headlock that he could not get out of and has never got revenge so that has proven klitschko a failure.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:17 pm 


SREDMOND

We have NO clue about how Wlad performs against ANY really GREAT HW because he NEVER fought one and his losses are to the lower end of the spectrum… Wlad had a good run against some solid guys Byrd, Chambers, Chagaev, Brock and the first Thompson bout but his resume is largely loaded with C level boxers and NOT a single A level HW who was a player… I think he would present issues for Tyson with his size and jab, but he would also have to avoid every punch from Iron Mike which was DAUNTING when Tyson was a prime boxer…Wach, Mormeck, Pianeta, and others have nicely padded his resume but the younger Klit does NOT have a single defining win… Povetkin was a HORRID bout to watch and his stock was down from years of ducking and facing guys like Boswell, a FADED Rahman and letting Huck take him into deep water…

Posted June 18, 2014 2:15 pm 


SLIM

No I didn’t say a prime Tyson could beat the the prime Klits, i think that would have interesting to watch though. But i am saying a prime Cassius Clay “Ali” would have run circles around the Klits. I’m Ali fan…have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:13 pm 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

why is sredmond pissing on another klitschko thread? this guy is a goon and a half! lol

listen to himtalk ross purritty!!! wlad wooped ross purrittys a$$!!! ALL OVER THE RING!! wlad was like 21 years old!!! he was having his first drink, taking his college finals, and wooping ross purrittys a$$!

this must be another instance of sredmond talking about fights he does not watch like provodnikov vs algieri. near the end sdunek thought the kid eas gSsing and through the towel in.

i encourage eceryone to watch that fight. the better man was wlad by miles and that was OBVIOUS.

pretending like someone has wlads number is foolish!! this dudes callin on 20 year old fights this KID had and he clearly never watched it to be siting the fight in that manner as though wlad looked bad!

bahahahhHhahahaha!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Sorry Squared Circle when you say “Pre Prime” that means we have to give Wlad a FULL 8 years to get his sh@$t together and that’s just NOT how boxing works… Klits was NOT a novice or newbie when he was getting shellacked by Sanders and Brewster, or stumbling all over against the CRUDE Samuel Peter… You are peddling excuses best sold to the likes of Bears and other miscreants…

Posted June 18, 2014 2:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, Lennox Lewis “avoid Sanders” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Sanders was a scrub for the most part that got stopped the fight AFTER beating Wlad by his Big Bro, who’s face Lewis rearranged as an OLD fighter… Only place Lewis “avoided” Sanders was on the Golf Course “18th hole”

Posted June 18, 2014 2:06 pm 


SLIM

Tyson has made a lot of dumb comments in his day…that’s just another one. Have a nice day!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Rahman was a MUCH better fighter than Ross Purrity or Corrie Sanders… He STOPPED Sanders, and Purrity is not worth mention Buster Douglas was a MUCH better HW fighter than Ross Purrity, he had what 4 losses when he knocked Mike out? How many losses did the first 3 guys that stopped Wlad had? again Klits has righted himself by becoming a very efficient and UTTERLY boring massive HW but his past is a reminder that he has never been invincible.. Holmes, Ali and Foreman combined were stopped as many times as Wlad and ALL the guys that stopped them were A level fighters who had a name… No Ross Purritys on that list!!

Posted June 18, 2014 2:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Squared Circle, Mike Tyson would have stood an EXCELLENT chance of knocking out Wlad during the first 8 years of Wlads career because 3 absolute NOBODIES including a Golfer with regional wins and a BUM with 13 losses accomplished the feat… Wlad was stopped 3x in his first 45 fights meanwhile Tyson went 45-1 before Evander got to him the next time…

Posted June 18, 2014 1:59 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, I totally DENY that “Ali was hammered by a Cruiserweight” because the division did not exist until something like 82 or 83 and Ali NEVER faced a Cruiser… See we cannot revise history to suit the present day lumbering largely inept HW’s of today…

Posted June 18, 2014 1:57 pm 


SLIM

@Laj…Ali was roughed up a few times, that’s no secrect. In his day he was considered the best. Just about EVERYBODY brought their “A” game. So what if his opponents were smaller than the Klits opponents if they weren’t sht than doesn’t matter how big they were.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:56 pm 


eric

I do agree that wladmir has been in a few fights that sucked and were boring, vitili had a much more fun style to watch and wladmir is doing what he has to do to win fights and its not always pleasing, no doubts there.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:50 pm 


eric

Meant pretty sad.

Ali layed on the ropes takin beatings to the body and head on a regular basis and is still a considered a boxing wizard, wow.

It’s very hard for a white man to get any credit in America., klitschko could win for 35 years, kill people in the ring, knock heads off bodies into the 3rd row and a title run of 200 title defences and he would still not ever get credit, unless maybe he spend 60 hours a week on the beach in ft Lauderdale working on his tan, then maybe.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:45 pm 


laj

SLIM and others you asked for the weights of Ali’s opponents, etc. Here they are popularhealthtrends.com_Boxing_HvwtATGRanking.htm Replace “_” with “/”

average weight Ali opponents 201 lbs, average weight Wlads opponents 235 lbs. Plenty of small guys can punch hard, often as hard as the big men, the difference is being able to absorb the punishment over the course of a fight, and carry the opponents weight. A classic example of this was Cunningham Vs. Fury.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:37 pm 


eric

Was rahmen noodles an -A- level world beater when he did complete destruction on Lennox Lewis, guess Lewis is a bum for losing, regardless of what Lewis did thereafter his destruction is irrelevant if we use the same logic sredmen and black panther friends use.

Was bustanutt Douglas a world class -A-lister when he out boxed and knocked mike tyson out ??

What did Douglas do after that, nothing he was a bum right. Based on your logic tyson is and was a gotal bum.

It’s pretty said when people gotta go all the way back in history when anonymous was driving around blasting disco music on his 8 track cruising gay bars to dog klitschko.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:35 pm 


laj

Sredmond, so let’s see by your logic there should be no weight classes , LOL

Posted June 18, 2014 1:24 pm 


laj

SLIM, facts are Ali was hammered by a small Cruiserweight, do you deny that?

Posted June 18, 2014 1:23 pm 


laj

So Sredmond, why did LL avoid Sanders?

Posted June 18, 2014 1:22 pm 


KAREEM ABDUL-JABAAR

Another win for the Klit on Sept 6th.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:10 pm 


SLIM

Joe Frazier wouldn’t knocked David “TOE” Haye out in the FIRST round. Please tell me your telling a bad JOKE. Foreman would have knocked out Pulev and Tony Thompson…Are you on Molly??? LOL

Posted June 18, 2014 1:07 pm 


ECAT

Oh SLIM there’s no hope for you…

Posted June 18, 2014 1:06 pm 


SLIM

@ECAT…REALLY??? DAVID “TOE” HAYE. Please stop!!! Im laughing too hard..LOL!!!!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 1:04 pm 


SLIM

@Anonumous…These fools sit behind a keyboard talkin bunch BS about Ali and dick ride the Klits. None of these fools would last 2 seconds in the ring…It’s hilarious listening to these fools.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:03 pm 


ECAT

SLIM don’t you get it? Again, The 60’s have not seen ANYTHING as strong and big as VK’s and WK’s opponents! Guys like David Haye, Pulev, Tony Thompson, Peter, etc. would have ruled most of Ali’s opponents.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:01 pm 


SLIM

@Laj…NOBODY wants to here what should’ve been or could’ve been. Ali stopped Cooper TWICE! He was NEVER knocked out by Cooper stop making up stories. Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:58 pm 


Anonymous

ECAT

Ali got knocked down by bum Cooper 84kg, 27-8 at bout.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:30 am

I’d bet my life savings that the so-called bum, Sir Henry Cooper would knock you out with one punch… and he’s been dead for nearly 3 years! What have you ever achieved except for being the whiniest whinger.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:53 pm 


SLIM

@ECAT…Still waiting for you to list all the weights and BUMS that Vlad fought?? Like you did Ali…

Posted June 18, 2014 12:53 pm 


ECAT

Anonymous, I’m not a “white boy”…sorry…

Posted June 18, 2014 12:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Mike Tyson, was NOT a big HW but anyone who doubts his PEAK two fisted power would be crazy… Wlad was NERVOUS about exchanging with David Haye who was best at Cruiserweight lets not pretend that a strong 215 pound HW cannot level Wladdy, he could fight for 1000 more years and no one is gonna mistake him for having a GREAT chin… He has learned to stay of of trouble which is smart and the ONLY way he would realistically survive, he is NOT built for War and the excuses his fans offer for perceived lessor boxers like Purrity, Sanders and Brewster getting to him only illustrate that…

Posted June 18, 2014 12:47 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, your notion that smaller HW’s have no power is BOGUS there are plenty of monster guys today that really don’t have a true Sunday punch… Even Vitali who had ALOT of TKO’s is not a one punch KO artist and NEVER is gonna be seen on anyones highlight reel… AGAIN if you wanna give Wlad a pass for getting dumped by NOBODIES because they were relatively “Big” in your eyes then we have to STILL Ding Wlad because he is one of the BIGGEST HW Champs ever and that evens out the equation… Ali taking Foremans best and knocking him out is FAR more impressive than any of the Big Lames that Wladdy sent to the canvas… Who Tony Thompson?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted June 18, 2014 12:44 pm 


Dirk Knopfler

I’m not having a go. I just thought you may be TARK’S alter-ego. Your posting style is eerily similar to his.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, that’s utter NONSENSE that “fighting for the Championship makes you world Class” BS that was the BIGGEST upset of the year, Sanders was a part time golfer and was knocking regional fighters in South Africa when he flatblasted Wlad….”World Class Fighters” are a different ilk than Corrie Sanders who never beat another World Class boxer other than Wlad to my knowledge…

Posted June 18, 2014 12:40 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)
Oi G*ybear, we are talking about heavyweight boxing here. Why are you whining about Mayweather on this thread. Get a life, you child. Mummy’s waiting with your diapers.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:39 pm 


ECAT

Dirk I’m just an objective boxing fan. So are LAJ and TARK.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:37 pm 


laj

Sredmond, Ali’s chin got better as he aged, so did Wlad’s, but more than anything Wlad learned how to pace himself, and learned some defense. Wlad has improved through the years, that shows dedication and greatness. Because an athlete has a bad game or bad year does not mean they are not great. I use Ali as an example because his greatness is an accepted fact. Ali didn’t get better as he aged, but his chin did. Wlad’s chin and his overall game has improved drastically since his losses. Wlad finished every fight on his feet, and never quit, where is the lack of courage?

Posted June 18, 2014 12:36 pm 


Dirk Knopfler

ECAT sounds like he was separated at birth with TARK!

Posted June 18, 2014 12:34 pm 


Anonymous

ECAT, is very emotional tonight, isn’t he?

Posted June 18, 2014 12:33 pm 


laj

Sredmond, Sanders absolutely was a world class fighter. He was fighting for the championship, by definiteion fool, that is world class. Your idle Lewis admitted to avoiding him because he was a fast lefty with power. How is comparing large men with power to little men with little power belittling Wlad? Wow are you twisted.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:32 pm 


ECAT

“anyone at HW can get “knocked down” the fact is that Ali got up”

Well Sredmond, three losses EARLY in career but then NEVER losing and IMPROVING since is better ; ) And Wlad was NEVER outboxed, unlike Ali.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:30 pm 


ECAT

Well Sredmond, three losses EARLY in career but then NEVER losing and IMPROVING since is better ; ) And Wlad was NEVER outboxed, unlike Ali.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:29 pm 


laj

Slim, Ali was out, he was helped up by Dundee who should have been DQ’d at that time. Dundee then gave him smelling salts, which again should have been a DQ. Dundee then cut his gloves, another DQ. Fact if all these didn’t happen the record books would show a DQ or KO, as the count is supposed to continue after the bell. Officially the record shows two Ali KO’s, both actually stoppages on cuts.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Laj, you keep harping on the SIZE of the guys that knocked Wlad down.. By that rationale if he got beat by Wach it would have been no big deal because Wach is a BIG guy??? or is Wlad to be marginalized because he is a BIG guy?? The reality is that Wlads losses were SHAMEFUL because he was in with guy that were not supposed to be able to touch him… Sanders and Purrity were NOT even World Class fighters… Juan Manuel Marquez gets knocked down EVERY fight it seems but he gets up and kicks AZZ, whereas Klits ONLY showed true grit ONCE when he was hurt the other 3 times he let relative nobodies take him out…He has flourished since but these are FACTS! The guy that stopped an OLD Ali was a man who ran his record to 48-0 and defended 20 times consecutive (Holmes) ALOT different than Ross Purrity, Corrie Sanders or Lamon Brewster…

Posted June 18, 2014 12:27 pm 


ECAT

* Williams, 95kg, couldn’t train the entire year after a gun shot.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:25 pm 


Blacker

Good Fight, however Wlad wins it based on his boxing skills, expereience, punching power and ofcourse hugging. Late stoppage win for Wlad or by wide points victory

Posted June 18, 2014 12:24 pm 


SLIM

@Ecat…Now list all the BUMS and weights Vlad fought??? Lol

Posted June 18, 2014 12:24 pm 


SLIM

@Laj…I don’t need the link fool. You said in your earlier post that Ali was knocked out by Cooper. IT NEVER HAPPEN MORON!!!! Ali TKO’d that fool TWICE. WTF are you talking about???

Posted June 18, 2014 12:22 pm 


laj

Slim, get a clue and go to the facts=, look it up, everything I stated is correct. Just google it fool, or are you too dumb and you want me to give you the link. Ali was out.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:17 pm 


laj

How many years since anyone has knocked down Wlad? The last person that knocked Wlad down, did Wlad get up? Did Wlad not only get up, but dominate the rest of the fight. did Wlad ever get knocked down by someone as tiny as Cooper, Frazier, or Jones? Or as utterly hopeless as Wepner? Ali is one of the greatest of all time, so is Wlad, they each had their weaknesses and their strengths . To deny one is to deny the other.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:14 pm 


laj

The lies continue. Wlad was never knocked out. Two of his fights he gassed. One when he had the flue lost 8 lbs in 3 weeks and fought his fist 12 round fight against a man that outweighed him by 25lbs. Wlad knocked the bigger man from pillar to post until he succumbed to exhaustion. He wanted to keep fighting his corner threw in the towel. Bad management and bad corner, he fixed that problem. Sanders definitely knocked him around and legitimately beat him. Sanders caught him with a beautiful left that Wald didn’t see. Still Wlad got up and has ALWAYS got up. He finished every fight on his feet. Brewster was just strange, Wlad knocked him all over the place the first 4 rounds knocking him down in the fourth. Then if you watch Wlads feet coming out in the 5th round he was stumbling and awkward before punches were even thrown. There was no beating or even a knock down in that fight. The second Brewster fight was like the first, but Wlad didn’t gas. FACT Wlad has finished every fight on his fight unlike LL and others. All fighters have bad nights, except for the Rock.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:10 pm 


ECAT

“The competition is weaker now that’s for sure”

Henry Cooper, Ali got knocked down by bum Cooper 27-8, 84kg

Karl Mildenberger, 88,4kg. BTW, Karl was the first southpaw to fight for the HW title and the only southpaw Ali ever faced! WK already faced 9, Vitali faced 4 and Lewis 0, if I remember correctly…

Sonny Liston, 99kg, had a bad left shoulder.

Floyd Patterson, 99kg, it took Ali 12 rounds to KO Patterson.

Chuvalo 1966 , 98kg, 34-11 !! He was coming off a loss against cruiser bum Corletti 86,6 kg, 11-2

Again Chuvalo 1972, 100kg, fought previously Christoper 8-22 and Chase 21-12.

Brian London, 35-13!! 91kg

William, 95kg, couldn’t train the entire year after a gun shot.

Featherfist Folley 91,6kg

Bonavena, 92,5 , he fought Ramos 23-11, Woody 14-6, Pires 15-5.

Joe Frazier 95kg

Shavers 95,7kg

Quarry, 89kg, who fought Harris 14-20

Evangelista, 94,8kg, 14-1, lost to Zanon 17-2

Dunn 30% KO’ratio, 33-12 whole career

Featherfist Young, 94,8kg

Bob Foster, 81kg

Ken Norton 1973, 95kg , fought Reno 7-6, lost to Garcia!!!

Archie Moore: 83kg, started to box at 63kg

Lubbers, 89kg

Foreman 99,7kg

Featherfist Wepner 20% KO’ratio, 102kg, knocked down Ali

Leon Spinks, 89kg, 6-0… Ali LOST!!

Ellis, 85,7kg started to box at 68kg.

Juergen Blin 90kg, 14% KO’ratio!!

*kg&rec at the time of the bout

Please forgive any typos, sent from iPhone

Posted June 18, 2014 12:05 pm 


SREDMOND

ECAT, anyone at HW can get “knocked down” the fact is that Ali got up, whereas Wlad let 3 MASSIVE underdogs stop him during his career… Klit statistical record is very strong the issue that is oft repeated is that his opponents have mostly not accomplished much…Another striking factor is that despite people pretending he just started his career POST Sam Peter, Wlad had been around the division for YEARS and was not really a factor when Lewis, Bowe, Tyson and Evander were making waves… Klits was getting smashed 2x in 5 fights by fighters like Brewster and Corrie Sanders when he was over 40 fights into his career.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:48 am 


Anonymous

heavyweight boxing has been a freak show for 20 years. today they are fat slow bums. end of.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:39 am 


SLIM

People need to stop comparing Ali’s era with the Klits era. The Klits are WAY bigger than Ali, Tyson, Holmes…I think Ali would have been too quick for them. But we will never know will we. The competition is weaker now that’s for sure…Have a nice day.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:31 am 


ECAT

Ali got knocked down by bum Cooper 84kg, 27-8 at bout.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:30 am 


ECAT

Anonymous weight is much more important than height, that’s why boxing is divided into weight divisions.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:27 am 


Anonymous

another sleeper in germany. no ppv here lol.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:26 am 


SLIM

@Laj…DID YOU FALL AND HIT YOUR HEAD OR SOMETHING? WHEN THE FUK DID YOU SEE HENRY COOPER KO ALI?? ALI TKO THAT BUM TWICE!!!!

Posted June 18, 2014 11:25 am 


ECAT

* current female…

Posted June 18, 2014 11:21 am 


ECAT

Haters,say what you want but VK and WK are both ATG HW’s and have cleaned this era out!

And no, this era isn’t weak! HW division has produced good fighters in the last 15 years…The 60’s have not seen ANYTHING as strong and big as VK’s and WK’s opponents… Athletes get better, bigger & stronger! For the first time in boxing history tall, athletic and skilled boxers (Lewis, Vitali and Wlad) rule the division.What was called “heavyweight” in Ali’s times would run as”cruiserweight” now…Hell, the female HW division starts at 81kg, in Ali’s time the HW started at 79kg!

Posted June 18, 2014 11:19 am 


Anonymous

keep the hw circus rolling.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:10 am 


huckster

pulev-wlad 2014!

Posted June 18, 2014 11:01 am 


ECAT

“Crap I was hoping they could pull of a unification bout and Wlad would fight Stiverne.” Me too
But Pulev deserves it… he has heart, good hand speed, a great jab and good stamina…
His performance against the two top 20 HW’s AD and AU was quite impressive! I like his coolness in the ring…

Posted June 18, 2014 10:45 am 


Alexander

I feel people are being very disrespectful of Pulev’s impressive resume. Kubrat has a solid amateur background he fought in the world championships and Olympics. Pulev has only grown as a professional and is Wladimir’s mandatory challenge for one of Klitschko’s titles “International Boxing Federation” Pulev did this by winning two title eliminators against both Alexander Ustinov and Tony “Tiger” Thompson. To say Pulev cannot punch or has not earned his title opportunity is absurd. If folks cannot get excited for such an excellent match up between two of the divisions best I don’t know why they would spend their time posting comments about the upcoming match.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:44 am 


Anonymous

you have real fight fans,and then you have idiots who watch hw comedy.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:29 am 


Anonymous

ANOTHER BUM WHEN WILL GLASS CHIN WLAD FIGHT SOMEBODY WHO CAN PUNCH THIS BUM WLAD HAS NEVER BEATEN A ALL OF FAME FIGHTER THAT’S WHY NOBODY TELEVISES THESE BUMS GET REAL FOR GOD SAKE

So tell us, who should he fight?

Posted June 18, 2014 10:28 am 


Anonymous

grabimir is dominant because he’s huge

Posted June 18, 2014 10:26 am 


Dick Bulger

Kubrat Pulev would take Deon Wilder to the cleaners. He has far more experience than birdlegs do.

Posted June 18, 2014 10:23 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, you MIGHT not “like watching” Floyd but I see you checking out his PPV’s unless you did not see him fight? Klits bouts are FREE of course because if the PPV was 50 cents US he would still do only 50k buys in America…

Posted June 18, 2014 9:52 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, who cares if YOU don’t like watching Mayweather fight he made $105million last year and was the MOST watched boxer on earth (especially by PAYING customers) Wlad cannot give his bouts away outside of Germany and he is the HW Champ, he would get more popular campaigning for an FMJ bout at the MGM than fighting Pulev, Povetkin, or any of these SOON to be forgotten HW’s at the O2 Arena.. Sorry Bro, this is what truth looks like…

Posted June 18, 2014 9:50 am 


Anonymous

the hw of today are a sad reflection of the past greats
just a bunch of out of shape bums all weighing 250 or better no muscle tone nothing no wants to see these tomato can bums

Posted June 18, 2014 9:49 am 


turbo hamster in gangnam

Pulev is than the likes of Ken Norton.

That is just a plain to see fact

Posted June 18, 2014 9:42 am 


Anonymous

all the hw stink who cares they all are bums

Posted June 18, 2014 9:26 am 


SREDMOND

Why not Pulev? He has a recognizable name among the morass of non descript HW fighters that populate the division.. But make no mistake this is NOT some sort of historic bout or epic summit meeting just a solid challenger in lieu of a defining fight with real historical significance absent Pulev pulling off and upset and stopping Wlad because we know that is Klits preferred method of loss on the rare occasion he loses to Underdogs…

Posted June 18, 2014 9:17 am 


Boxing Barlow

Say what you want about Pulev but at least he is a genuine top ten heavy weight. Leapai, Pianeta, Wach, and Mormeck are all recent fights against guys out of the top ten.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:55 am 


Boxtradamus

Pulev will squeak by in this one. He will drop Wlad with a great counter or possible uppercut as Wlad tries to tie him up but does NOT have the power to KO Wlad. Close win for Pulev over Wlad is my official pick despite the posers trying to ruin my credibility. Get a life bums and quit being a jealous LOSER just because I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:51 am 


Anonymous

wlad has been knocked out 3 times never mentioned him with ali holmes jack johnson joe louis this bum has beat nobody and has been again knocked out 3 times three strikes you are out

Posted June 18, 2014 8:44 am 


jet

Wlad will remain champ until he retires……and wlad would beat prime Tyson and so on..he isn’t america. That’s why no one cares..hw died since lewis Tyson retired..

Posted June 18, 2014 8:41 am 


aj1575

Pulev definitly deserves the fight, since he has beaten many of the other HW contenders out there. (Ustinov, Thompson, Dimitrenko). But get real, it always took him quite some time until he finished the job.
A 12 round UD against Thompson (after Thompsons second beat up by Wlad), An 11 round KO against Ustinov, who only fought “has beens” and “never weres”, and another 11 round KO against Dimitrenko, who is also rather limited.
Just imagine what Wlad would do against Dimitrenko; he would simply put an end to his career.
I think the fight will be pretty good though. Two technical skilled fighters show what they can. It will get nasty if Pulev tries to come inside; Wlad will then clinch him often. But I think Pulev believes in his chance that he can box Wlad maily from the outside. But in the end end, it won’t matter. Another win for WK.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:38 am 


AbyK

Pulev will be another victim of Kitschiko’s iron hand and will be dropped in 2 and Ko’d in 4.
The best is to create a boring “Super Heavyweight” division which will house the Klitschkos, Pulev, Price, Fury etc. We want our interesting HW division back comprising smaller people like Hollyfield, Haye, Bowe, Chisora, etc.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:31 am 


Bimbo

Wlad’s reach is 206 cm ( boxrec ) ; Pulev’s reach is 202 cm ( Wikipedia, no data on boxrec ). That’s not a big difference ( less than two inches, if I;m right ). Pulev is also good in fighting bigger guys, he is very fast on his feet for a big guy, can move in and out, and has good timing. His main weakness against Wlad will be his lack of power, Wlad hits way harder, that’s why I don’t give him more chances to beat the champion. But than again, against Ustinov, I was 100% sure that Pulev can’t stop him with his limited power ( Ustinov was never stopped or knocked down in his long K-1, Muay-thai and boxing career ), and the bulgarian comletly outboxed him, broke him down and finally stopped him. Of course, Wlad is no Ustinov, but he doesn’t have Ustinov’s chin either :-)
Now ai think Pulev wins

Posted June 18, 2014 8:19 am 


Anonymous

ANOTHER BUM WHEN WILL GLASS CHIN WLAD FIGHT SOMEBODY WHO CAN PUNCH THIS BUM WLAD HAS NEVER BEATEN A ALL OF FAME FIGHTER THAT’S WHY NOBODY TELEVISES THESE BUMS GET REAL FOR GOD SAKE

Posted June 18, 2014 8:10 am 


RAY GORDEN REID

Anonymous

Posted June 18, 2014 8:01 am 


JJ1

I won’t count out Pulev yet. He has a slim chance of winning.
Having said that, propably Klitscho will win via UD.

Posted June 18, 2014 7:04 am 


RAYGORDON REID

WALD

Posted June 18, 2014 7:01 am 


Anonymous

jab hold clinch. should be good fun.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:55 am 


Bimbo

Grabimir won’t be able to clinch on Pulev …..

Posted June 18, 2014 5:20 am 


Bo Bo Olson

Pulev is good, but has no fan club…due to lack of KO’s. He’d give any body else a good stiff fight. No cream puff.

The first thing Stewart taught Wlad was to clinch like Lewis or Ali…the best clincher of all time…in he made it seem the other was doing the clinching. Loved the Wepner fight, him lacing Ali, stepping on his feet in the clinch, roughing him up in the clinch; showing no respect. Couldn’t believe my eyes.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:41 am 


KG

Pulev will win that fight, but it won’t be easy for him, this is a good opportunity to bet and make money. As more people believe Pulev has no chance as the coefficient will get better.

Posted June 18, 2014 4:38 am 


gumboot

Pulev deserves his shot. He won’t win but he has earned it. Either Wlad retires, gets beaten, eventually the title moves on. But not in this fight. As to the uneducated who compare the Ali era. Look at the size and skill comparison. Ali was a great fighter but would struggle vs Lewis or wlad. And remember that Ali too fought his share of second tier opponents. I am the greatest boxing historian ever born.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:49 am 


Bimbo

Wlad is losing to Pulev for sure. He has not got Pulev’s stamina and mentally he won’t be ready for Pulev. He did not want that fight. I would not say Wlad was scared from Pulev, but he tried to ignore him to go around him. He is not happy with this fight. Wlad will not be ready mentally for it.

Posted June 18, 2014 3:09 am 


punch

If Grabimir doesn’t hug he gets beaten. Hugging is his main line of defense. I expect Mr. Octopus to win by strangulation. However, if he decides to fight like a man then the fight gets interesting and we might see the giant octopus on its back or a$$ again.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:52 am 


Rustybucket

See this fight panning out the same as the Povetkin fight, Pulev has’nt the power or raw aggression to unsettle Wlad

Posted June 18, 2014 2:37 am 


aj1575

Finally this fight gets made. Pulev is definitly one of the best boxers Wlad has faced. But I’m not the least bit worried, that Wlad will loose his belts. Pulev just has not the power to win against Wlad. He can not outbox him, because Wlad is technically very skilled, and also bigger. And Pulev has not the power to knock Wlad out. So this will be another scalp for Wlad.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:25 am 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

“but he fought x ammount of champs and p4p top ten” if guerrero Nd ortiz were champs or top ten then garbage is in im your top ten and and your sanctioning body and somebodies smoking crack. thank god guerrero never cracked anyones p4p top ten but his promoters magAzines. lol

Posted June 18, 2014 1:47 am 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

ultimate winners!? wh0 did ward fight? got his jaw jacked by froch and what appears to be a washed up dawson. lol. shouldnt have played the fraud game boiled down in weight.

maywesther never even faced the best welters he fights guys like guerrero and ortiz if he can gain an advantage on them like he did canelo and jmm. dudes a fraud, a con, a hustle. call me when he fights pac and bradley or porter or lara. thanks in advance

Posted June 18, 2014 1:45 am 


Boxtradamus

When you hate watching the Ultimate WINNERS thats called being a LOSER. Mayweather and Ward are the Top 2 rated Boxers in the Sport whether YOU hate to watch them or not. SO your hate is irrelevant.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:17 am 


BEARS (VINNI VIDDI VICCI SON)

sho were the turds claiming wlad was ducking pulev and pulev will win??? please identify yourselves. i should have saved your posts!

Anoter great scalp for the wlad klitschko to reap!!! love eatching this guy fight!!! hate watching mayweather and ward. actually maidana beating floyds a$$ was awesome!

i do think chisora will beat fury. jennings should get the wlad fight soon as he actually has the balls to fight him. i doubt bermaine or wilder will. HIGHLY DOUBT it.

i would like to see povetkin, wach, and haye goin for the wbc. maybe not haye he will tie it up in bogus fights with audley harrison and monte barret.

i guess helenius is about done. i hope hughy fury moves along fast i think he has good potential

Posted June 18, 2014 12:54 am 


largo

can Pulev take people out? can he punch? if no, what’s the point?

Posted June 18, 2014 12:29 am 


TARK

Largo.., US television picks up all of Klitschko’s fights and we send American TV crews over there and do hours of on air commentary with top US fight analysts.

Plus Klitschko get paid millions of dollars a fight.. A lot more than Andre Ward gets.. Somebody has to be watching in order for them to give 4 hours of air time when he fights somebody like Leapai — who nobody ever heard of.. He looked damned good in that fight BTW.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:26 am 


PEEJ

I don’t like Wlad at all. But really there is nobody that can beat him unless some how Wilder shows us that he can. Other than that there is nobody beating the Klitchko. He will be champ till he retires or someone lands that rare punch that Hasim landed on Lewis and doesn’t rematch him.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:25 am 


Vlad

Everyone wanted WK to fight Pulev and a lot of people said that he will avoid fighting him. Now that he will be fighting Pulev , nobody is satisfied anymore. Make up your mind people

Posted June 18, 2014 12:12 am 


LAJ

Difference is Wlad has a jab he can turn into a hook at the last instance, and a right hand that will hurt when it lands, plus Wlad is faster. I hope Pulev puts up a great fight, he ssems to enjoy his sport.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:01 am 


LAJ

Difference is Wlad has a jab he can turn into a hook at the last instance, and a right hand that will hurt when it lands, plus Wlad is faster. Pulev is very good, but as I said Wlad is great at this time in his career.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:00 am 


Cheezb

Should be a good fight (though not expecting an “action packed” one).
Pulev has a really good, sneaky jab so if he can somehow win the “jab battle” then he should actually be able to pull off the upset.
Interestingly enough, I reckon if Pulev has the better jab, he should close the distance after landing it instead of pulling out like he usually does. Wlad is near useless on the inside these days… if Pulev is scoring with the jab, then whether Wlad clinches or fights on the inside, it works to Pulev’s advantage (i.e. if Wlad’s clinching, he’s not scoring… if he’s fighting, he’s out of his comfort zone).

But Pulev getting the better of the jabs is definitely a massive IF.

Posted June 17, 2014 11:54 pm 


LAJ

Ali was 36 when he was spanked by Spinks. Since he had three years off earlier he shoildn’t have been past his prime. Yes Ali did get KO’d by a 180 lbs Cooper. Dundee illegally enterred the ring, Dq1 and helped him to his corner. Dq2 he gave Ali smelling salts, Dq3, he cut Alis gloves, but live in your fantasy land and pretend it didn’t happen. Ali had his bad fights, so did Wlad, difference is Ali never went 10 years between his. I grew up in the Ali era.

Posted June 17, 2014 11:54 pm 


punch

If Grabimir beats Pulev fair and square, I’ll give him his due credit but not if he hugs his way to a decision.

Posted June 17, 2014 11:43 pm 


john pena

i am going to stop reading the comments again. to many ignorant fools writing them. ali got beat by Spinks when he was far past his prime. also he never was never knocked out by the kind of fighters wlad was ko’d by. this era of heavyweights is pitiful compared to the ones in ali’s era. wlad never has had to fight anyone the caliber of the fighters ali fought and he still got knocked out 2 if not 3 times. ali would of beat the breaks off klischko.

Posted June 17, 2014 11:40 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

lennox retiring is still the best decision he ever made

Posted June 17, 2014 11:12 pm 


Anonymous

laj says.., “Ali was a hug monster”

Frazier’s neck still hurts up in Heaven. “It wasn’t a fight. Clay kept holding.”

Posted June 17, 2014 11:06 pm 


Myles

Does the idiot who wrote this article know that 7,250.131 million US dollars is over 7 trillion dollars? That would wipe out a third of US taxpayer debt.

I assume he means 7 million dollars, not 7,250, 131 million dollars. To me 7 million is an outrageously piddling sum for a matchup like this. So they’re going to give Pulev a million and the rest goes to Klitschko? It could be worse. Ward cleared less than 1.5 million for his Rodriquez fight. Good thing he gets a lot of commentary gigs.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:59 pm 


Anon

This will be a battle of the SRS-A1 sniper jab vs the 50 cal Sniper jab, i’ll let you figure out which is one which.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:02 pm 


laj

By the way I m american and watch him every chance I get. I stopped watching HVWT fighting for a while since Duran and others offered better entertainment, and Ali was a hug monster, much worse than Wlad ever was or could be. Loved to just stick his left hand out and hold off short fighters like Frazier. It was so ba in the so called “Golden Era” they were serious about Wilt fighting Ali, how lame is that? Sorry forgot it got worse they put a 6 fight novice in there. competition back then wasn’t all the rose colored glasses made it out to be. On the other hand the lower weights had some great fights. Holmes era was rather boring, Mike was exciting and got me interested again.

Posted June 17, 2014 9:54 pm 


laj

sorry Largo, but your just spouting BS. I posted a link of the top heavyweights for the last 80 years and comparing their records and stats. You may be surprised at what you see the stats to really show. From stats alone Wlad is the #2 all time, but he is not finished yet. There are some arguments about level of competition, etc, but those stats are also taken into account. I didn’t include fighters like Frazier and Liston, because they simply had very few defenses of the title. I do have to go back and add fighters like Patterson since he had a much better ecord in championship fights than Foreman, who ends up at the bottom of the top 12. You can find it at popularheathtrends_boxing_HvwtATGRanking.htm Replace _ with /

Posted June 17, 2014 9:50 pm 


largo

This f’n guy, single-handedly-has managed what nobody in the entire history of Boxing was able to achieve: to kill the glamour & prominence of the HW division…

Posted June 17, 2014 9:37 pm 


largo

WKlinchko is not a “world” champion because only his family & a few germans watch his boring as$; the rest of the world don’t give a sh!t about him.

Posted June 17, 2014 9:31 pm 


largo

One f’n mismatch after another; there hasn’t been a worse time for the HW division, ever…no wonder nobody but germans watch this f’n Klinchko-whatever-

Posted June 17, 2014 9:20 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Undefeated #1 world heavyweight title contender Kubrat Pulev have made himself well deserved of his shot at the world heavyweight title and fighting Wladimir Klitschko and I belive he will deliver a great fight BUT in the end, I feel Wladimir Klitschko will be the better fighter and defend his undisputed world heavyweight for a 17th time.

Pulev cant be overlooked and as I said, he will deliver his best against Wladimir but Wladimir Klitschko should be the better and stronger man in the ring.

Posted June 17, 2014 8:01 pm 


Alexander

This will be Wlad’s sternest test since his first fight with Tony “Tiger” Thompson. These are the 2 best heavyweights in the world right now according to the “bible of boxing” Ring Magazine. What a night September 6th 2014 is shaping up to be.

Posted June 17, 2014 6:49 pm 


laj

Pulev is a very good fighter, but the Wlad haters will come on here after the fight and say he was a bum.

Posted June 17, 2014 6:43 pm 


Derek

Pulev offers nothing more than Chagaev, Haye, or Povetkin, and all of those were near-shutouts. Of course, people still claimed Wlad was running scared from Pulev, yeah right.

Posted June 17, 2014 6:41 pm 


laj

Wald has the advantage in almost every category. Pulev is good, but Wlad is great at this point in his career. Too fast, too strong, too skilled, and more weapons. See late round stoppage.

Posted June 17, 2014 6:31 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Actually looking forward to this one..Wlad is getting up there in age…Hasn’t shown decline as of yet…But you never know…And Pulev is good…Could have a little more punch-power…But oh well no-ones perfect…Think this will be an interesting 12-rounder.

Posted June 17, 2014 6:28 pm 


Oracle of Boxpollo

Klitschko By mid to late round KO. Can’t take much credit for this prediction though because it’s pretty much the safest prediction there is in boxing right now

Posted June 17, 2014 6:05 pm 


DULO

Wlad is going down… n he knows it.

Posted June 17, 2014 5:51 pm 


Boxtradamus

Wlad by LOPSIDED decision or late stoppage.

Posted June 17, 2014 5:41 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Wilder hasn’t earned a title shot. Pulev has. He’s a more worthy mandatory challenger than we’ve seen in awhile.

Posted June 17, 2014 5:37 pm 


detroitko

boringgggggggggggg…Klitschko vs Wilder! that’s a fight!!!

Posted June 17, 2014 5:23 pm 


Haimat

Kubrat is in for a tremendous beating.

Posted June 17, 2014 5:21 pm 


Anonymous

Let’s see how Pulev’s famed chin holds up!

Posted June 17, 2014 5:14 pm 


the dude

Would be nice to see Pulev win this and shake up the division – he won’t but it would be good for boxing if he did

Posted June 17, 2014 5:10 pm 


Eric_Suede

Easy Win for Wlad. Crap I was hoping they could pull of a unification bout and Wlad would fight Stiverne. Ahh well. I’m going to side with Tony Thompson who has been in the ring with both of these guys & he says there’s no doubt in his mind this will be an easy night for Wlad.

Posted June 17, 2014 5:10 pm 



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