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Fight Aficionado

“I think Lomachenko is trying to move WAY too fast as a new pro. Generally speaking, it’s very wise for an amateur to get at least 10-15 pro fights under his belt before taking on top-level competition for world titles and belts.” – Agree with Squared Circle. Ironic that his supreme self confidence is fueling this, yet if he ends up with a 1-2 record he won’t be able to have much confidence less than a year into his pro career.

Posted June 20, 2014 6:59 pm 


shaq

BOO BOO the CABO VERDE ASSASSIN IS the TRUTH!!! None of those boys in the 154 to 160lbs can handle him…

Posted June 20, 2014 9:21 am 


TJ

Woops!

Sorry SQUARED. The last post was from me. I’m on my phone! That show was an eye opener from all of the Champions involved. Brilliant TV and some really pumped up views!

Posted June 19, 2014 4:18 pm 


Anonymous

Hi SQUARED CIRCLE

I’m from the UK, but follow boxing around the world and like all different fighters and styles.
The following is taken from a Sky Sports TV show that you should watch if you can YouTube it called:

GLOVES ARE OFF SUPER MIDDLEWEIGHTS

I have transcribed part of the hour long show:

Present are Johnny Nelson (the Chair)

Roy Jones Jr, sitting round a table with Joe Calzaghe, Chris Eubank, Nigel Benn, Richie Woodhall and Steve Collins…

Johnny Nelson asks,”What was it that made you so special?”
Roy Jones: “Because, I was so hungry. I got robbed of the gold in the Olympics, which basically BLEEPED me off. So, I had something to prove. When you have something to prove it makes you a different fighter.”

JN: “So, you were chasing records?”
RJJ: “I had to do what Bob Fitzsimmons did back in 1896. That’s what I had to do. I had to recapture the Light Heavyweight title… If I didn’t do that, I didn’t do what Bob Fitzsimmons did! After that my goals were done. And, I should have probably stopped!”

Roy Jones Jnr on defeat and Calzaghe being undefeated:

RJJ: “I was like him. I wanted to be undefeated too, but when I got to Montell Griffin, they disqualified me. That ruined my undefeated record. So, even if I wanted to be undefeated like him, that ruined my chances of that. Therefore, I had to shift gears. I said okay, the undefeatedness is out the door. And now I got to do something else. And now, this what I do. I’m going to win the Light Heavyweight title. Then I’m going to win the Heavyweight title… Nobodies done that in 106 years. And then I’ll come back and regain the Light Heavyweight title and that will be my accomplishment, cause they KILLED my desire to remain undefeated, when they DQd me. So, I’m glad that they did it, cause that was something I didn’t want to do. But, I didn’t lose before they DQd me and GAVE me a loss. I didn’t lose a fight until after that. If they had never TAKEN that fight, I probably would still not lost a fight, because, just like him (Joe), my goal would have been to stay undefeated, but once they took the fight, that goal went out the window. I can’t do that no more.”

I reckon Lomachenko is thinking his O is gone, so now he is dead set on going out and beating the biggest and toughest challenges out there.

Posted June 19, 2014 4:16 pm 


TJ

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)

Hey, Squared. Good post re Russell-Lomachenko. Lomachenko has an old school mentality and is not afraid to lose, nor is he afraid to face the best opposition available. Salido and Russell back-to-back is a formidable task for anyone and proves he is both confident in himself and willing to test himself against the best.

Roy Jones Jnr said something when he was in the UK last year that has stuck with me regarding an unbeaten record. Before he lost by DQ to Montell Griffin, he said he not only thought he’d never lose but tried to do everything to protect his O. As soon as he lost, he could no longer be unbeaten, so he could only go out and be great… He set about aiming for a piece of the Heavyweight pie and hopefully a match with Mike Tyson, (which never happened)!

Lomachenko can never be undefeated, but he can go out and become great.

If I can find The quote from RJJ and I’ll dig it out.

Something to think about.

Posted June 19, 2014 8:44 am 


Rustybucket

Russell-Lomachenko fight will be interesting, tough to pick, but history would say Lomachenko likely to lose.

Posted June 19, 2014 4:56 am 


Tomato Can

Or maybe Russell will come in heavy, like Salido did to Lomachenco… Yes it should be a fun night of boxing, regardless.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:42 pm 


Peebles Esq

Lochenko!

Posted June 18, 2014 6:35 pm 


Joseph Herron

You’re a smart man, FA!! Gary has had trouble making the 126 pound weight limit in the past…I think this will be a huge factor in determining the winner of this title bout.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:34 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I’m looking forward to Russell vs Lomachenko. Good scrap that could go either way so I’ll have no prediction until after the weigh-in. If Lomachenko loses it would mark the worst-ever handling of a top Olympic prospect in the history of boxing. I think Top Rank’s crazy. They conceded to Lomachenko’s request to get fast-tracked like this. They should’ve told him to calm down.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:32 pm 


Joseph Herron

Tomato Can: “I’m sure Russell will win the first three rounds or so. But once Lomachenko begins to time Gary, his fundementals will take over. If Lomachenko is unable to deal with the speed, well then it’ll be a blow out.”

This is where the variables of mental and physical durability really reveal itself within a prizefighter.

Look at the match-up of JMM and Manny Pacquiao for example.

Because of the disparity in speed, Marquez was forced to let his hands go while Pacquiao was trying to take his head off and mount an offensive attack. That was the best opportunity for Marquez to land something big.

If there is a huge speed disparity, will Lomachenko have the brass to open up while Gary is trying to knock his block off?

Many questions will be answered this Saturday night…I love it!!

Posted June 18, 2014 6:27 pm 


Tomato Can

I’m sure Russell will win the first three rounds or so. But once Lomachenko begins to time Gary, his fundementals will take over. If Lomachenko is unable to deal with the speed, well then it’ll be a blow out.

Posted June 18, 2014 6:10 pm 


Joseph Herron

SREDMOND: “Tomato Can, I gotta say I think Russell is gonna BLOW Lomanchenko out to be honest.. I think they are trying to turn this guy into the next Rigondeaux, a decorated amateur that is fast tracked in the pro’s… It was a FAIL against Salido and I think Russell is just too talented..”

I agree that Gary is an elite level talent. But on last night’s show, Mercito Gesta and I were talking about how talent isn’t enough on the world class stage.

Physical and mental durability is paramount…Gary hasn’t proven that he possesses either one. When you think about it, Vasyl actually has faced the better opposition of the two with only two professional fights.

So don’t be surprised if Lomachenko wins this fight.

Mercito and I brought up two fighters who look very different in the gym while training.

Mickey Bey Jr. looks like an absolute world beater in the gym and seems to be an elite level talent, but hasn’t been able to put it all together under the bright lights of the world stage.

Everyone who spars with Chavez Jr. insists that he is slow, unmotivated, and clumsy in the ring. But when he performs on the biggest stage, he becomes a very difficult fighter to beat.

Those intangibles that are difficult to measure ultimately determine your success at the highest level of the sport.

We’ll find out if Gary has that this Saturday night!!

Posted June 18, 2014 6:05 pm 


Joseph Herron

Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing): “It would have been nice to hear Russell actually state his score and who he thought won the Provo vs. Algieri fight. (But evidently he being the consummate professional and didn’t want to step on the toes of his colleagues.”

Pat is a very smart man. This is the primary reason why I don’t really like making predictions, and when I do, I don’t take my predictions seriously…I just view them a necessary portion of my analysis articles on FightSaga for entertainment value.

Because ultimately your ego gets in the way of how you view the fight. No writer or fight fan likes to be proven wrong by the action that ensues, and it really affects how one often interprets the action.

Posted June 18, 2014 5:57 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Joseph Herron

BUSTAJAY: “No BOOBOO…Sad face”

LOL…sorry about that, Bustajay…it happens sometimes when you conduct a live program.

We’re not pre recorded like many other boxing radio shows…there’s no replacement for the kind of energy you get from a live on air interview.

As difficult as it is for two hours consecutively, that’s why I JK always insists on doing the live program!!

Posted June 17, 2014 11:12 pm

So true as the LIVE factor keep it real bro.
Great show as always

Posted June 18, 2014 2:45 pm 


Tomato Can

If Russell does knock Lomachenko out within 5, that’ll be note worthy, and I’ll be happy for him.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:09 pm 


Tomato Can

Agreed.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Tomato, its cool that he is stepping to the plate but it might usher him outta serious contention early… Russell has been brought along slow at the pro level but he has some FAST hands should be interesting…

Posted June 18, 2014 11:44 am 


Tomato Can

I don’t like the fact that their pushing Lomechenko up so fast. Supposedly, he’s the one demanding it. But you gotto like his heart for taking the tuffest fights, despite not being seasoned… Still my thought is that he matches better at this stage against boxers than maulers. That’s why I give him a good chance against Russell. Both guys have the talent to go far in the sport. IMO thier meeting one another too early.

Posted June 18, 2014 11:34 am 


Anonymous

tomato can is on crack

Posted June 18, 2014 9:46 am 


SREDMOND

Tomato Can, I gotta say I think Russell is gonna BLOW Lomanchenko out to be honest.. I think they are trying to turn this guy into the next Rigondeaux, a decorated amateur that is fast tracked in the pro’s… It was a FAIL against Salido and I think Russell is just too talented..

Posted June 18, 2014 9:35 am 


Anonymous

any body who thinks this russian can beat russell is on crack realbad this is no contest russell in 5

Posted June 18, 2014 9:25 am 


Tomato Can

If (and that’s a big if) Lomachenko can time Russell, it’ll be Russell who’s in trouble. Two things that nuetralize speed are timing and text book fundamentals. Lomachenko has the fundamentals. I’m not sure any of us know if he has the reflexes required to time Russell.

Posted June 18, 2014 9:04 am 


Anonymous

Lomachenco WILL NOT GO THE DISTANCE NO WAY IN HELL RUSSELL LOSES THIS GARY 6TH RD KO

Posted June 18, 2014 8:08 am 


Tomato Can

Russell is 180 degrees, style wise, from Salido. Although Russell is a more talented boxer than Salido, his style may be something Lomachenco is more use to. This fight could surprise us. But Lomachenco’s insistence on rushing to a title shot is a big gamble.

Posted June 18, 2014 8:04 am 


PEEJ

Looking at Gusev record there is nothing impressive about it. Most of the fighters records on his resume have losing records. Just a padded record.

Posted June 18, 2014 2:09 am 


D

gusev is no bum. russel shut him out. russel’s damned good, and 24-0

lomachenko will be a great pro after 6 more fights. he need to acclimate.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:58 am 


PEEJ

Hard to say who has better skills considering one of them has 2 pro fights and the other has a few against bums.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:45 am 


Boxtradamus

That’s why you don’t look at comp and record. You look at SKILLS.

Posted June 18, 2014 1:25 am 


PEEJ

Its hard to pick a winner because Russell has yet to step up to any real comp and Lomachenko has only 2 professional fights. Yes they were against better comp than any of Russells opponents but Russell has more rounds in his belt. He talks a big game but has yet to show that against legit comp.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:43 am 


Joseph Herron

I’m shooting a Boxing 411 video for this weekend’s match-up and you’ll see my prediction on that.

I don’t want to spoil anything, but I do believe it will be a much more difficult and competitive fight than most insist.

Posted June 18, 2014 12:25 am 


Boxtradamus

WHO is your pick on Lomachenko vs Russell Jr. Herron??? Don’t DUCK the question.

Posted June 17, 2014 11:33 pm 


Joseph Herron

That’s for joining us tonight, guys…big thanks to Luke, Bustajay, Squared Circle, and Hidalgo for the continuous support!!

Posted June 17, 2014 11:13 pm 


Joseph Herron

BUSTAJAY: “No BOOBOO…Sad face”

LOL…sorry about that, Bustajay…it happens sometimes when you conduct a live program.

We’re not pre recorded like many other boxing radio shows…there’s no replacement for the kind of energy you get from a live on air interview.

As difficult as it is for two hours consecutively, that’s why I JK always insists on doing the live program!!

Posted June 17, 2014 11:12 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Luke

Alright Busta J…supporting the right guys…Bye Bye is gonna restore US Heavyweight Boxing!! And that’s right, WE DO LUV HIM!!

Posted June 17, 2014 9:56 pm

Right on bro

Posted June 17, 2014 10:45 pm 


BUSTAJAY

No BOOBOO
Sad face

Posted June 17, 2014 10:43 pm 


BUSTAJAY

I want to see all the fights ….show them

Posted June 17, 2014 10:42 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BOOBOOO

Posted June 17, 2014 10:41 pm 


BUSTAJAY

With Bob and his clout this kid is about to explode

Posted June 17, 2014 10:39 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Boxing is a business ……good to have Bob

Posted June 17, 2014 10:37 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Wow
TOP RANK NOW…….NREAKING NEWS

Posted June 17, 2014 10:36 pm 


BUSTAJAY

ACCUBOX

Well said CORRECTAMUNO and PREDICTator! As much as We enjoy predicting fights we can only hope to be half as great as him.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:12 pm

Ummmmmmmm…..Are you all the same?

Posted June 17, 2014 10:34 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Jk, where is BOOBOO ?

Posted June 17, 2014 10:33 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BUSTAJAY

Fighters don’t desire to avoid it is the team they have in place that out more weight on cash VS Risk

Posted June 17, 2014 10:29 pm

In simpler words cash trumps risky fights….Look at PAC and Money…..so sad

Posted June 17, 2014 10:30 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Fighters don’t desire to avoid it is the team they have in place that out more weight on cash VS Risk

Posted June 17, 2014 10:29 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BHOP is 145 yrs old in boxing age

Posted June 17, 2014 10:28 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Nope
Lomo takes a TKO
WELCOME TO THE PROS…..AGAIN

Posted June 17, 2014 10:27 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Shake off the rust…..who does Seanie want NOW?

Posted June 17, 2014 10:26 pm 


Oracle of Boxpello

Lomachenko by UD. Best of luck on the Russell prediction. May the best fighter and prophet win.

I am the ORACLE of Boxing. inspired by the Boxing Gods and granted foresight into the Future.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:25 pm 


BUSTAJAY

World wide audience tonight
HOLY S?..H…It
Too soon to say?

Posted June 17, 2014 10:25 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Test

Posted June 17, 2014 10:24 pm 


BUSTAJAY

JK I wear a medium…..147/154 my fight class…..but it hurts

Posted June 17, 2014 10:18 pm 


BUSTAJAY

It looked sooooo easy( refer GNR song)

Posted June 17, 2014 10:17 pm 


Boxtradamus

THANK you ALL!!! But more THANKS goes to God!!!! He created ME as the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!

Posted June 17, 2014 10:16 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Down Under….world wide
Go JK & Joseph
Best show
Best producer
Best candid talk for boxing

Posted June 17, 2014 10:16 pm 


Luke

International audience, brother!!

Posted June 17, 2014 10:14 pm 


ACCUBOX

Well said CORRECTAMUNO and PREDICTator! As much as We enjoy predicting fights we can only hope to be half as great as him.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:12 pm 


Luke

Did I hear that right…is this Justine Fortune on the line or Mic Dundee??

Posted June 17, 2014 10:10 pm 


PREDICTator

In my years I have seen many people make fight predictions both on TV live and on the Internet. Without a doubt Boxtradamus is the absolute GREATEST of them all.

With a good eye it’s fairly easy to see through the impostors and disciples versus the real him. The man CONSTANTLY makes accurate predictions time and time again

I am a FAN of this LEGEND. just don’t be naive fall for the fake thing but see the real thing for the greatness that is truly upon us.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:10 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Boo Boo tried to give Rose a chance and he still failed.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:08 pm 


BUSTAJAY

You can also listen at 32,000 feet…..I know what Bo don’t know

Posted June 17, 2014 10:07 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BOOBOO tried to give Rose, a rose by any other name is still a rose, a chance and the kid did not take the chance.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:06 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Put it down Bye Bye…..PUT HIM DOWN

Posted June 17, 2014 10:05 pm 


BUSTAJAY

CORRECTAMUNDO

boxtra is the greatest in the world and perhaps the entire known universe. The guy has so many disciples picking the opposite of him in a FEEBLE attempt toake him LOOK bad and they remain LESSER than him as a result.

He has inspired many people to come to this site and post like him an attempt to be like him either just because you wear Michael Jordan jersey doesn’t mean you are Michael Jordan.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:03 pm

Ummmmm……boxer or briefs ????

Posted June 17, 2014 10:04 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Woaaaaaaahhhhhhhh Ric Flair
Be the man beat the man

Posted June 17, 2014 10:03 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

boxtra is the greatest in the world and perhaps the entire known universe. The guy has so many disciples picking the opposite of him in a FEEBLE attempt toake him LOOK bad and they remain LESSER than him as a result.

He has inspired many people to come to this site and post like him an attempt to be like him either just because you wear Michael Jordan jersey doesn’t mean you are Michael Jordan.

Posted June 17, 2014 10:03 pm 


Luke

Don’t mean to put any pressure on him…I know BYE BYE don’t even know what pressure is – he just goes out and executes and enjoys himself!!

Posted June 17, 2014 10:01 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Bye Bye sending that busta bye bye for real

Posted June 17, 2014 10:01 pm 


Luke

Joseph…if you would….please tell BYE BYE this is serious business…WE R COUNTING ON HIM TO RESTORE US HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING…PUT IT BACK IN ITS RIGHTFUL PLACE!!

Posted June 17, 2014 9:58 pm 


Luke

Alright Busta J…supporting the right guys…Bye Bye is gonna restore US Heavyweight Boxing!! And that’s right, WE DO LUV HIM!!

Posted June 17, 2014 9:56 pm 


BUSTAJAY

JK I really want to talk to BOOBOO

Posted June 17, 2014 9:55 pm 


BUSTAJAY

No drink
No smoke
Bye Bye for real

Posted June 17, 2014 9:53 pm 


Boxtradamus

Yup. Russell Jr. by SHOWCASE decision or stoppage. MY loyal disciple picks Lomachenko SO he will remain LESSER than ME at picking WINNERS. I am STILL the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!

Posted June 17, 2014 9:52 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Bye Bye is for real…..he is ready

Posted June 17, 2014 9:51 pm 


BUSTAJAY

JK let me hollar at BOOBOO
He is the man…..should not move above his current weight class

Posted June 17, 2014 9:50 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Where is BOOBOO?

Posted June 17, 2014 9:46 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Boxtradamus

Or Lomanchenko by DOMINATING UD.

Posted June 17, 2014 9:42 pm

No way….great armature background but welcome to the world where big dogs actually bark and BITE

Posted June 17, 2014 9:45 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Boxtradamus

I SAID that BOO BOO would be CHAMP long ago and I stand CORRECT today. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!

Posted June 17, 2014 9:43 pm

Dude you make me laugh everyday on the boards…”BEST EVER”

Posted June 17, 2014 9:44 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Boxtradamus

The BIG Fight coming UP next is Russell Jr. vs. Lomachenko. WHO is YOUR pick Herron? I take Russell Jr. by SHOWCASE decision.

Posted June 17, 2014 9:37 pm

Wait…….you are the best so why you asking Joe…..LMAO

Posted June 17, 2014 9:43 pm 


Boxtradamus

I SAID that BOO BOO would be CHAMP long ago and I stand CORRECT today. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!

Posted June 17, 2014 9:43 pm 


BUSTAJAY

GRJ by TKO

Posted June 17, 2014 9:42 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BOOBOO is the man

Posted June 17, 2014 9:41 pm 


Boxtradamus

Or SHOWCASE stoppage.

Posted June 17, 2014 9:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

The BIG Fight coming UP next is Russell Jr. vs. Lomachenko. WHO is YOUR pick Herron? I take Russell Jr. by SHOWCASE decision.

Posted June 17, 2014 9:37 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BOOBOO

Posted June 17, 2014 9:23 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Joseph ,
Please ask him how the tenured refs still don’t catch the dirty boxing done in the ring ( hitting on the thigh, kidney punches..etc,,) .
Boxers are smart but we have seen some dirty cramp the last few years.
Thanks

Posted June 17, 2014 9:21 pm 


BUSTAJAY

The Bradley fight did throw Russian into the spot light…..still one of my fav fights

Posted June 17, 2014 9:18 pm 


BUSTAJAY

For the record I had Russian 114/112
Just saying I am okay with the end result but it could have been on the other foot…..or glove

Posted June 17, 2014 9:09 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Ok clean effective punching…..but 1 punch VS 5…..Naw

Posted June 17, 2014 9:05 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Chris or Russian……Coin toss but that first scorecard was BS

Posted June 17, 2014 9:03 pm 


BUSTAJAY

BooooooBooooo

Posted June 17, 2014 9:02 pm 



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