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TARK

“Neither Bradley are Ruslan have titles so a fight is useless”

Ridiculous… Contenders shouldn’t fight???

Haye vs Fury would have broken all records in the UK.. It was a non-title fight.. Marquez-Pacquiao IV was a non-title fight — and did better revenue wise than their 3 title fights.

It’s foolish to say contenders shoudn’t fight each other… Ali-Frazier II was a stinker of a non-title fight — but pulled in more revenue then their 1st fight for the undisputed title.

Posted June 30, 2014 6:13 am 


poor pacturds

Manny is washed up without Floyd his career is over. He should have taken the fight in 09 but no he was afraid of needles but he has tattoos? Go figure I bet he is kicking himself in the ass now. While Floyd is working his was to 1 billion dollars lol poor pactards lol….

Posted June 29, 2014 6:31 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Enough already: arum has 3 in the top ten p4p. More than any other promoter. To bad so sad

Posted June 29, 2014 6:17 pm 


enough already

Neither Bradley are Ruslan have titles so a fight is useless they already bumped before. And are both Mannys left overs. Arum is really reaching all he has is bums including Pac…

Posted June 29, 2014 4:30 am 


PEEJ

You want your example, look at the post before and you will see an example. Ruslan leaned on Bracley and pushed him down. Like I said I think he would of fell but since Ruslan leaned on him and pushed him down, it was no knockdown

Posted June 29, 2014 12:46 am 


TARK

The Bradley fight made Provodnikov… He did more damage regardless of how you scored it… And the referee missed a knockdown. That’s clear.

The Algieri fight sort of undid everything for Provo.. I thought it was interesting that he lost the decision.. I would like to see either Provo or Algieri against Marquez. I think they kick his butt.

Posted June 28, 2014 6:59 pm 


anonymouys

Provo would ko the runner this time.

Posted June 28, 2014 10:55 am 


PEEJ

I have watched the fight twice and Ruslan lot Bradley leaned on his back and pushed him down. That is Ruslans fault. I find it funny that y’all complain about the HBO crew and how they are cheerleaders for certain fighters but then when they say something that you agree with all of a sudden you use their quotes to back up your theories. Can’t have it both ways.

Posted June 28, 2014 10:24 am 


HittheTarget

I am a Provo fan too but com’on , think with your real head. Provo only knows how to fight one way and that is to plod and destroy. He lost his first defense due to plodding all night looking to land one hay maker. He had the kid out but didn’t follow up. If he said he hates boxers then he should go into MMA. Christ, Provo lost to a former kickboxer. Tim Bradley is a much smarter boxer. No way Tim will fight Provo like he did last time. That fight against Provo was to redeem himself from all the folks who said he lost to Manny in their first fight. This time, Tim has let that demon go and he’ll fight Provo his old fashion wasy by picking apart Provo. It won’t be fan friendly but that’s how Tim will fight. As fun to watch as Provo is, he’s heading back to ESPN FNF.

Posted June 27, 2014 11:50 pm 


TARK

Sredmond says.., “Bradley is NOT the most talented guy and he never will be but his combo of heart, determination, athleticism and skill have kept him around the top end of the sport for years despite him having Malignaggi like power..”

He punches harder than Malignaggi does… Good grief!!!His fights with Witter, Peterson, and Alexander prove that… But Floyd M even commented that Tim built his body wrong — so he could look impressive for the weigh-in.

Tim would have more punching power — and even balance — if he had a better strength training routine. His physique looked slightly messed up, like Bryant Jennings.. Like they’re doing too many weights, the wrong mix of weights, and not enough plyometrics.

Posted June 27, 2014 10:31 pm 


srminimo

Tark- a who’s worse,the guy that told JMM to drink the pee or the guy who listened ?

Posted June 27, 2014 8:51 pm 


EZ E

TJ Yes, Bradley is not/never has been on Cotto’s level. According to my sources, it aint being discussed. Another Bradley vs Provo is a more popular fan friendly fight. Both are in dire need to redeem themselves. Reviewing their fight, I think there is more room for Bradley to improve and the ability to make the necessary adjustments. Not so with Provo, who’s ability to adjust are more limited. Considering Provo’s willingness to meet Bradley again on Tim’s terms and both being TR fighters they can make it happen but.. I honestly don’t expect it to be a repeat of what transpired the first time. Bradley will box cautiously and move more the second time around. For Provo to force Bradley into exchanges he will have to pay the price. Peace!

Posted June 27, 2014 6:27 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Doesn’t matter how you put it. Manny may have looked average against Bradley but he beat 3 p4p and fought pretty poorly so if he can fight poorly and still beat top 5 p4p he is still pretty right I would say. When Bradley was at his best in the first 4 rounds he only won 2 out of the 4 rounds on the scorecards. So his best was only mediocre.

Posted June 27, 2014 5:29 pm 


TJ

EZ E

Hi EZ E. I think it would be a total joke if Miguel defends against Bradley. Bradley is a Welterweight who has not fought above 147 and I doubt if the public would approve of Miguel pulling him out on the back of a clear loss to PACMAN when there are a whole host of more deserving fighters at 154 and 160 to choose.

Having said that if these two ever met in a fantasy fight at either 140 or 147 I would put all my money on COTTO beating Bradley, perhaps even stopping him. At 140 Miguel was a better defender and more patient. At Welter I would fancy Miguel to take him out, although it would be more risky as he abandoned a lot of his defensive attributes in favour of seek and destroy, allowing Bradley a chance to counter, but I can only see COTTO wearing him down and stopping him late!

At Middleweight, I doubt Bradley would see the halfway mark.

This is almost as ridiculous as a PACMAN vs Mikey Garcia match!

Posted June 27, 2014 4:01 pm 


eric

Provo deserves a rematch and Bradley deserves the opportunity to set the record straight to those who think he lost.

Both fighters should have learned from their mistakes in the first fight.

Prov needs to not push Bradley down to get a 10/8 round and finish the job and Bradley needs to box and move.

I wonder if the second fight will be boring or a barn burner, nonetheless I want to see it.

Posted June 27, 2014 3:37 pm 


EZ E

So far out of Caguas there’s nothing that points to a Cotto vs Bradley encounter. Could be Arum sending out bogus smoke signals, nothing new, trying to get the other parties anxy. He even went as far as mentioning Chavez, a fight which we ALL know aint gonna happen. More smoke! What I do hear is that team Cotto will remain silent until the result of the Canelo vs Lara fight. Their hopes of a Mayweather 2 fight remain alive but vaguely, no word coming from the Floyd camp.

Posted June 27, 2014 2:49 pm 


SREDMOND

No matter how Top Rank would try to spin it, Bradley vs Cotto is NOT a natural matchup… Cotto is a HUGE puncher compared to Bradley who could not even stop guys at 140, Cotto just won the MW Title, this is more about this being an in house fight as opposed to a quality matchup..

Posted June 27, 2014 2:00 pm 


uzb

Bradley vs Cotto would not be pretty… Cotto could literally kill the guy.

Posted June 27, 2014 1:58 pm 


The Negro King

How much $$$ did Bradley make against Provo and Pac II?

Posted June 27, 2014 11:45 am 


Gus

It’s not about how Bradley chooses to fight but about how Ruslan makes him fight. Bradley has no choice but to fight for his life.

Posted June 27, 2014 11:42 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Some mental giant wrote:”But he is still 7 p4p and no one can take that from him till they beat him.”

Sorry, he doesn’t have to lose a fight to drop lower or even climb up on the P4P list…

Posted June 27, 2014 11:30 am 


SREDMOND

Critiquing Bradley harshly for losing to Pacquiao is weak, Pac Man is just a cut above Bradley most thought he proved that in the first fight, the second proved to be a mere formality.. Bradley looked better in the first 4 rounds of the second fight IMO than he did in the first fight… Personally I was not overly impressed with Mannys performance against Tim the second time though he did more than enough to win…

Posted June 27, 2014 9:17 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, so NOW suddenly “Bradley does not train right” he has ONE loss 2 if you want to count the disgraceful first decision to Pacquiao but suddenly he is in need of your help? Seems Bradley has done just fine, he is NOT the most talented guy and he never will be but his combo of heart, determination, athleticism and skill have kept him around the top end of the sport for years despite him having Malignaggi like power..

Posted June 27, 2014 9:13 am 


SREDMOND

The usual suspects trying to crowbar a win for Provodnikov in the first bout with Bradley which he lost but certainly banged Tim up something fierce… That said Bradley to my surprise showed his ring smarts in the next fight with Juan Manuel Marquez and boxed smartly while respecting the Mexicans power…Bradley is being discussed as a Cotto opponent, a fight I would not be keen on seeing but Provo is out after dropping that bout to Algieri.

Posted June 27, 2014 9:09 am 


Teddy DuChamp

The only nice thing to do after nearly killing Bradley last time

Posted June 27, 2014 8:25 am 


Boxtradamus

Thanks CORRECTAMUNDO! Love you! ;)

Posted June 27, 2014 8:23 am 


Pugfan

Bradley’s ability to box is over rated. he is no Sugar Ray Leonard , that is for sure.

Posted June 27, 2014 8:01 am 


mack

Bradley will have learned from the first fight, and from the Algieri fight, that boxing and movement are needed against Provodnikov. I like Provo, but he is very crude and will always be troubled by boxers. He has also been taking a lot of punishment with his all or nothing style. I think Bradley wins on points again.

Posted June 27, 2014 7:50 am 


uzb

Tark has it right, Bradley doesn’t train the right way. His technique is brutal. He looks like he throws heavy shots with his eyes closed. The 2nd Paquiao fight is the perfect example.. Atrocious performance, simply atrocious. He only decent in 1 fight (Marquez). Provo is not great either but at least he keeps his eyes open and throws slightly straighter punches.. Toss up fight both guys are average. Heart will be the determining factor unless Bradley can fight like he did against Marquez.

Posted June 27, 2014 7:26 am 


RAYGORDON REID

provo

Posted June 27, 2014 7:01 am 


Boxing Barlow

I like Provodnikov. He’s never in a dull fight. Win loose or draw I hope the promotors have the sense to keep matching him in competetive fights as he’s good value for money.

Posted June 27, 2014 4:59 am 


TARK

Bradley doesn’t train right… You don’t train harder for a big fight.. You try to train smarter, with better sparring partners and more elite coaches.

A bad strength trainer will get you beaten.. Like the guy who Marquez used for Floyd who told JMM to drink his own pee.

Posted June 27, 2014 3:31 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Lets not forget real champs don’t make excuses, Bradley is full of them. Full of sh*t I would think also. But he is still 7 p4p and no one can take that from him till they beat him.

Posted June 27, 2014 2:42 am 


PEEJ

Well a fresh Bradley should be able to out box Ruslan as he did it a few times in the first fight. But lately he has had issues with his feet and calves. If he still has those same issues with Ruslan then Ruslan stands a good chance to win another toe to toe battle for an unmobile Bradley

Posted June 27, 2014 1:34 am 


Juggernaut

This time it will be a load sided decision for Bradley. He can out box the Siberian freight train

Posted June 27, 2014 1:09 am 


third world

prodnikov doesn’t have the footwork to cut off the ring against anyone with quick feet,and lateral movement. i like the kid,he has a big heart. he should watch old roberto duran tapes when duran was duran up to leonard vs. duran 2. any young fighter who can punch should study those tapes. no one bobs and weaves or feints like duran did.

Posted June 27, 2014 12:26 am 


PEEJ

How is this a meaningless fight? So really most fights are then meaningless because there are only so many titles that are out there.

Posted June 27, 2014 12:04 am 


PEEJ

The first knockdown was not legit. Ruslan pushed him down. If he would not have done that then he probably would of fell and it would of been legit but that did not happen. He pushed him down. So in that case it is not legit.

Posted June 27, 2014 12:04 am 


enough already

another mealiness fight neither guy has a belt or is relevant at this point…

Posted June 27, 2014 12:01 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

Bradley may not want a rematch, that is if he is using his head. The right thing for Provo to do is make some bucks since his style won’t allow for a lengthy career(see Floyd Mayweather jr.)…

Posted June 26, 2014 11:54 pm 


te tumbo

BIG HAM, you’ve got a point. failing to pull the trigger was the most conspicuous flaw in Provodnikov’s execution of his fight-plan. he did power-lunge and miss and he also did land some solid shots but his lack of reach severely limits his ability to get inside the guard of solid boxer and obliging target for punchers. win or lose, Ruslan does bring the action but he requires a cooperative opponent. otherwise, you get most of the rounds between him, Bradley, and Algieri.

Posted June 26, 2014 11:13 pm 


Big Ham

Goodness i almost forgot. Ruslan Provodnikov vs John Molina. That will be a low purchase price fight for HBO to easily make, both guys coming off of losses looking to rebuild. Neither of them are tied to Al Haymon. And guaranteed to be an action fight. That’s a fight that makes sense. I hope it gets made.

Posted June 26, 2014 11:01 pm 


Big Ham

I did’nt think he was reckless or lunging against Algieri. I think it is more of an issue that he was not busy enough. I still think he won the fight based on doing more damage on a round by round basis. But there were many times he had good head movement good forward position to get to Algieri. But he waited for a perfect shot and waited to long. He needs to learn that boxing judges give you points when punches miss. Ruslan is a physical fighter, they need to work on a quicker release, more jabs on the way in and getting his punch count up to about 750 punches per 12 rounds. As for the Bradley fight, i do not think that is a good matchup for Ruslan. I think he needs to stay at 140, he has a fan friendly style and i am sure HBO will find an opponent for him. I think they should build towards a Mathysse.. Ruslan fight if possible. Chris Algieri will not hold that belt long.

Posted June 26, 2014 10:57 pm 


te tumbo

Q-vo EZ E. after witnessing Maidana’s adoption of an expert jab to box(?!) his way out trouble, i’m not counting anybody out these days, but you’re right. Ruslan’s build and temperament add up to fated. his destiny is to collide and/or streamroll opponents. when an opponent has the skills to neutralize that style, Provodnikov becomes a lunging, reckless, and inaccurate (and reckless) slugger. i actually recall Bradley managing to seriously sting him a couple of times in their bout. he’s not invulnerable but he’s prime and confident and still growing. he’s a “tough out” if there ever was one because he’s gonna battle the entire way . . . Paz y Respeto to EZ E.

Posted June 26, 2014 10:17 pm 


PEEJ

Don’t really think Provo is overrated. And if Bradley fights him like he did the first time or the way he fought Pac in the rematch then he could be in some trouble. No Provo doesn’t do great with boxers. His last fight could of gone either way. I thought it was close. Prove is in the picture and that is all that matters.

Posted June 26, 2014 10:08 pm 


ACCUBOX

BOXTRADAMUS is the BEST. He is AMAZING. He is ALWAYS RIGHT! He is not such a TOTAL LOSER that he actually posts under DIFFERENT IDs to big up his own name. Surely nobody could be such a COLOSSAL TWAT to actually do this on the ESB message board…. Go BOXY my hero!!!

Posted June 26, 2014 8:54 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Marquez losing to Bradley cost him big $ against PAC if a fifth comes off. Alvarado says prov smashes Marquez and that guy would know.

Posted June 26, 2014 8:48 pm 


Boxtradamus

My IMPOSTER thinks he can FOOL you by using sporadic BLOCK CAPITALS!!! The REAL Boxtradamus predicts Provodnikov by Sixth round KO!

Posted June 26, 2014 8:48 pm 


Patrick

If it happens, Bradley boxes this time and wins easily.

Posted June 26, 2014 8:35 pm 


Prof Konje

I would prefer that Provodnikov fight someone who could punch rather than Bradley. In his last fight he showed that movement confuses him. Unless his opponent engages in a toe to toe fight, Provodnikov can be beaten and he was. Now imagine a guy who can box AND punch. Provodnikov would be in trouble.

Posted June 26, 2014 8:34 pm 


EZ E

TUMBO Orale carnal! You do make some valid points but there’s no doubt that Pac will be the A-side if another fight between them takes place. BUT… Manny will have to ante up CONSIDERABLY to make it happen and hear JMM’s demands as well. If you remember, before the Algieri fight I had stated that I favored JMM over Provodnikov, believing that his superior skills would take him to a clear victory. I still feel the same except that JMM must make his move soon before TIME defeats him. As for Ruslan adding some desperately needed boxing skills… hmmmm…. he is what he is. Once the bell rings and a couple of exchanges later he will be the same Ruslan we’ve all come to know. Paz y respeto, peace to all!

Posted June 26, 2014 8:04 pm 


Titopa

Imagine if Algieri had some pop? Pffffttttt! Bye bye Provo.

Posted June 26, 2014 7:55 pm 


Titopa

Provo is NOTHING special. I’ve been saying it, he’s HIGHLY overrated and is your typical HBO hype job. He’s a good “fighter”, but this is boxing…and throwing haymakers with your chin in the air will only get you so far.

Now I wish Marquez had taken the fight, Provo would get ICED!

Posted June 26, 2014 7:54 pm 


Titopa

Provo will get outboxed…Bradley won’t fight the same way again, he was in there trying to prove something and fought a STUPID fight. The Bradley that fought Marquez would make Ruslan look foolilsh. BTW. Anyone who thinks Ruslan was “robbed” vs Algieri needs to learn how to score a fight.

Posted June 26, 2014 7:52 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

What was Alvarado ranked p4p? Cause Bradley was 3. Just for negotiation power. So what was Alvarado again? I wasn’t sure cause I couldn’t find him in the top 100?

Posted June 26, 2014 7:22 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Tumbo Marquez couldn’t even PAC up his great win with a win. Losing which then lessens his power at the negotiation table you idiot. What did you think about that acne on Marquez in the Alvarado fight tumbo? Looked real natural YEH

Posted June 26, 2014 7:20 pm 


detroitko

love this rematch!

Posted June 26, 2014 6:12 pm 


Hecdog

Provodnikov will win a UD or most likely a late round stoppage. Bradley can’t stay away from a brawl too long. He should if he wants to limit his already damaged body and brain. I see Provodnikov catching up with him and winning this fight. Bradley’s boxing will last but a few rounds before he begins to fight it out and get caught.

Posted June 26, 2014 6:04 pm 


CORRECTAMUNDO

Well said Boxtra! UR the GREATEST!

Posted June 26, 2014 5:48 pm 


Oracle of Boxpollo

We said my pupil. Bradley by decision. You have learned WELL! Boxpollo has CHOSEN well.

Posted June 26, 2014 5:46 pm 


Boxtradamus

BRADLEY by DECISION. No WAY he gets goaded into another fight like the first time and uses his superior SKILLS to outBOX Provodnokov!

Posted June 26, 2014 5:44 pm 


moonshineman

I like both of these fighters. Having said that, I don’t think Tim wants any part of Prod.

Posted June 26, 2014 5:26 pm 


te tumbo

TC, yep. i think Ruslan’s build, size, nature, and current trainer work against him when facing competent boxers. he’ll need to target obliging opponents if he expects to regain his headlining momentum. otherwise, the last thing i expect him to learn at Wild Card is how to box his way to victory.

Posted June 26, 2014 4:53 pm 


Tomato Can

It looks like most here agree. Many people may think Provo beat Algieri, but the majority of us all know Provo weakness is boxers.

Posted June 26, 2014 4:30 pm 


Blitz

The first fight was probably fight of the year. But this was because of the shock factor in the way Bradley fought. If the re-match happens Bradley will box a lot more and it will likely be a boring fight

Posted June 26, 2014 4:30 pm 


Tomato Can

If Provo fights Bradley on his terms, Tim better make his first term to box. Then it won’t be much of a contest.

Posted June 26, 2014 4:27 pm 


te tumbo

“Provodnikov willing to fight Bradley again on Timothy’s Terms”. that’s the challenge of a truly fierce competitor. unlike Pacquiao* who will shamelessly (cluelessly?) proceed to dictate terms AFter being planted face-first into the ring canvas and a year-long layoff. unfortunately for Provodnikov, Bradley established his warrior-creds with their last slugfest that Bradley won with his boxing not punching skills. in a rematch, in a rematch, he’ll avoid exchanges and simply outpoint the limited Provodnikov for another win. Ruslan didn’t learn a thing if he thinks that Bradley can only defeat him if he can seriously hurt him. the smarter move would be to target more obliging opponents like Rios, Mathysse, or even Thurman. a win v. any of these guys puts Ruslan back on track and even losing an action-packed bout v. any of these guys won’t derail him. he’ll simply become the designated gatekeeper with a shot to regain his promise by taking it from the latest batch of up-and-coming prospects and contenders.

Posted June 26, 2014 4:25 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

I suppose losing to a kick boxer can lead to such atrocities.

Posted June 26, 2014 4:15 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Yes, this fight has all the makings of a great one. Let’s hope that Bradley will agree to take the fight.

Posted June 26, 2014 3:58 pm 


Happyboy

Another top sequal from Top Skank HBO ( honestly Bob I Old), what next Pac vs Bradley 3.

Posted June 26, 2014 3:30 pm 


mephisto

hahahahahahaha @ Tims face.

Posted June 26, 2014 3:23 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Occupational HAZARD…Anyone who steps into the ring is taking one….This is BOXING not KNITTING….

Posted June 26, 2014 3:17 pm 


The oracle of Delphi

Good fight, let’s have them fight and fck each other up and exploit it on TV and enjoy them mumble in the years to come, great idea! They should both retire…

Posted June 26, 2014 3:08 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I personally would like to see how Guerrero and Ruslan match up….They are two fighters who rely on their opponents coming to them and fighting their fight which is going to WAR…..If they fight someone who sticks to a game plan and box them; they do not have a plan B much less C….

Posted June 26, 2014 3:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Octavius I agree he is not gonna go get his MELON cracked again by a relatively crude fighter… Tim has gotten some sweet paydays and after 2 Pac fights and Marquez he is looking for guys with cache… Provo losing makes him unattractive especially to a guy that NO ONE knew…

Posted June 26, 2014 2:59 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

I meant if he CAN’T…Sorry for typo…

Posted June 26, 2014 2:56 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

SRedmond…I agree…Bradley has WAY BETTER TECHNICAL SKILLS than Ruslan…I believe he was too emotionally charged in the first fight…He felt he had something to prove to those questioning his heart and his victory over Pacman in the first fight…I can’t see him fighting the same fight a second go around…I believe he will box Ruslan especially after seeing what Algieri was able to accomplish by boxing him…That was a SURE SHOT BLUEPRINT on how to beat him…Ruslan relies too much on his punching power; if he can overwhelm you with his power and his pressure; he is LOSS….

Posted June 26, 2014 2:55 pm 


Gr33nFather

Bradley’s got a big heart but he need to avoid fighters like Provodnikov and focus on guys like Alexander, Malignaggi etc…

Posted June 26, 2014 2:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Provodnikov just lost to a nobody which is NOT really good for him and this is obviously not gonna be a big money fight.. As crazy as it sounds Arum is discussing feeding him (Bradley) to Cotto which would be more bankable… Bradley would fight him the way he fought Marquez this time he is not gonna stand there and trade, he knows that Provodnikov is by far the heavier puncher…As long as Tim keeps him turning and boxes smart this would be a comfortable fight.

Posted June 26, 2014 2:31 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

That fight sure wouldn’t be good for Tim’s health, win or lose…

Posted June 26, 2014 2:15 pm 


Boxtradamus

Provodnikov by CRUNCHING jaw breaking KO in a rematch with Bradley. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!

Posted June 26, 2014 2:04 pm 



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