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ANONYMOUS

Tark would lick the toe jam off the Klits toes after a fight if they would let him. lol

Posted July 11, 2014 3:54 am 


CouldaWoulda

I like how TARK says The Toe won a world heavyweight championship against Valuev .

It used to be known as THE world heavyweight title for a reason , it meant you were the best heavyweight in the world , acknowledged by all and sundry as ” the Champ ”

Nowadays you get to win A world heavyweight title .

It is an oxymoron , by definition ” world heavyweight champion ” means you are the undisputed worlds best heavyweight boxer .

That’s Wladimir.

Talk about semantics and the cheapening of a great sporting bauble .

Haye has never been world heavyweight champion yet you rate him over Ali .

Posted July 10, 2014 10:48 pm 


CouldaWoulda

On a thread talking about Ali vs Haye only TARK could hype up Audley Harrison and Michael Sprott hahaha.

Hilarious.

Ali was 55-2 at heavyweight prior to the Spinks fight Tark.

Haye is 5-1 .

So beating Tomas Adamek at heavyweight makes you great now does it hahahaha.

Best laugh I have had in a while , thanks Tark.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:17 pm 


CouldaWoulda

In TARKs brain beating on a 37 year old Monte Barrett is more credible than winning undisputed world heavyweight championships from Sonny Liston and George Foreman .

Posted July 10, 2014 4:14 pm 


CouldaWoulda

Haye and I quote ” is a great boxer” .

Nothing more needs to be said .

Ali beats a prime unbeaten Foreman while Haye gets stopped by Carl The Cat.

Ali was 22 when he fought undisputed world heavyweight champion Liston , Tark. That’s a fight you’re supposed to lose, not a fight against a 40 year old man with losing form aka the cat.

You’re comedy gold .

Posted July 10, 2014 3:31 pm 


CouldaWoulda

Tark hyping Audley Harrison , hilarious stuff :)

Posted July 10, 2014 3:27 pm 


CouldaWoulda

Only Tark could see a great fighter in a guy with a 5 -1 record at the weight.

As for analyses technique , it’s laughably poor.

Haye has a poor jab , poor balance , no idea how to infight , a poor mans Roy Jones.

You’re good value as a comedian Tark , keep up the good work .

Posted July 10, 2014 3:26 pm 


CouldaWoulda

David ” my toes hurts ” Haye has had a grand total of 6 fights at heavyweight. None of them except the fight against Wladimir were genuine heavyweight title fights. Just the usual alphabet shenanigans.

His record is 5 -1 at heavyweight.

Muhammad Ali’s record at Heavyweight is 56 -5 and before he fought Leon Spinks it was 55-2 . Ali first won the title in early 1964 and fought Holmes in 1980. Sixteen years at the top at heavyweight.

The only fight Ali failed to go the distance in was against an all time great in Larry Holmes.

Ali was also a shell of a fighter by that stage , ringworn , suffering from Parkinsons and had he been fighting at the highest level since 1963.

Carl Thompson stopped a 24 year old Haye in 5 rounds in a cruiserweight fight . Thompson was supposed to be shot but he didnt cooperate with the chinny Haye.

Haye also has average stamina. He gasses easily.

If you actually take time and examine the Hayemaker’s opponents form at heavyweight its grim reading.

Take Monte Barret for example. Cliff Couser had destroyed Monte Barret in two rounds and he had already been stopped by Valuev ( an achievement in itself ) . He was 37 friggen years old .

The Valuev fight may have been the most excruciating in history and an elderly Evander Holyfield basically did as much against the Russian behemoth as Haye did.

Next up is the 38 year old John “Huggy Bear “Ruiz . A guy Roy Jones had beaten at heavyweight. A guy James Toney punched the piss out of ( Toney was on droogs of course ) .

Next up is Audley frigging Harrison. No more needed to be said .

Then we get the Klitschko fight in which Hayes effort defined both ring pacifism and ring cynicism ( the flop anyone ? )

Finally we have Hayes kayo of Del Boy Chisora . Haye’s best win but again nothing special , Chisora has fought four fights against rated opponents and lost them all . I do believe he was robbed against Helenius but then again who is Helenius. He aint no Klitschko . Tyson Fury has a win over Del Boy , Vitali ditto.

These fanbois type screaming about Haye being all time great are hilarious.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:17 am 


Harry Box

Haye would KO Ali. Too big and strong and fast. Here is a guy who would KO Ali………………..Corrie Sanders, fast, lefty, hits hard and big.

Posted July 10, 2014 12:04 am 


badger

sure red ali was awesome laying against the ropes beoing pummeled against foreman. the guy is am mess now.

Posted July 9, 2014 8:37 pm 


Richard Bulger

Holy looks like a robot in the thread photo.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:48 pm 


SLIM

Lol! I tried to tell Tarkie long time ago that he’s losing credibility on ESB by trying to put these bums out here over Ali…he’s too stupid to get it! He had David toe Haye #6 and Ali #10…that sht is hilarious.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:23 pm 


Joe

People used to complain because there were too many titles, e.g., WBA, WBC, IBF. Now there are too many WBA titles… What are we coming to?

Posted July 9, 2014 3:59 pm 


Anonymous

when you get put to sleep by three cab drivers you cant be the best ever.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:28 pm 


ECAT

I must say, you imitate me very well… it’s easy. Except for the suspension marks… I never
more than 3 …

Posted July 9, 2014 2:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, you WILL NEVER win this battle trying to sell Ali as a MORE boring fighter that Wlad… History has SPIT in your face as Alis legend and star endure! He has documentaries and movies about his epic contests with Foreman and Frazier while Wlad has epic STINKFESTS that are best forgotten David Haye, Povetkin, Ibragimov, Mormeck and many others… Wax on about Evangelista till your rancid liver gives out but Ali will always be equated with excitement and transcendent accomplishment…

Posted July 9, 2014 2:30 pm 


TARK

Stupid idiot D2000 says “Of course the Klits have higher KO ratios…they have been fighting more bums”

That’s a stupid lie, you ignoramus.

I didn’t see ANY Alfredo Evangelista’s… Jean Pierre Coopman’s… Brian London’s… Chuck Wepner’s… Rudi Lubbers’s… Richard Dunn’s… Buster Mathis’s… Ron Stander’s… Terry Daniel’s… Dave Zyglewicz’s… Joe Roman’s… Manuel Ramos’s… or Jumbo Cummings’s on the K Bros’ schedule.

Ali, Frazier, and Foreman fought bums who couldn’t get a job as a sparring partner for the K Bros’ opponents.

Posted July 8, 2014 6:39 pm 


ECAT

7-1…………. i need consolatory sex Anonymous……….

Posted July 8, 2014 6:24 pm 


D2000

Of course the Klits have higher KO ratios then the fighters you named idiot…they have been fighting more bums!…your making peoples point.

Posted July 8, 2014 6:17 pm 


Anonymous

ecat how many

one-night stands and caipirinhas have you had today? lol

Posted July 8, 2014 5:38 pm 


Turb0-H@mster..

I don`t think TARK is racist, just belligerent, arrogant, slightly senile, and lacking the ability to apply basic logic consistently.

Posted July 8, 2014 5:16 pm 


Turb0-H@mster..

Not me.

I do the “fruity TARK” not the racist one.

Posted July 8, 2014 5:15 pm 


TARK

“Tark so you pick out a handful of Ali’s boring fights?? What about the boring fights Vlad were in…WAY more junk fights then Ali.”

Ali had WAAAAY more boring fights than Wladimir… I think my post demonstrated it was more than a handful.

Punching power is very exciting, that’s what people loved about Dempsey and Tyson. The K Bros have KO ratios higher than Dempsey… Tyson… Foreman… Liston… Louis… Lewis… or Jeffries.

Punching guys like Buster Mathis… Mac Foster… Joe Bugner… Jimmy Young… Leon Spinks… Alfredo Evangelista… and Rudi Lubbers with 150 popcorn punches each…and they don’t react — is not that exciting.

Those fights were panned like crazy by bored sportswriters.

Posted July 8, 2014 4:34 pm 


ANONYMOUS

stop lying…that was you real Tark.

Posted July 8, 2014 4:32 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., You ARE a racist… Shut your stupid face you serial butt sucker

Posted July 8, 2014 4:20 pm 


TARK

The idiot claiming to be a Russian is FAKE TARK.. and obviously anonymous right after him was the same idiot.

Posted July 8, 2014 4:18 pm 


Anonymous

lol…yeah right. Have you seen his top #10 HW list?

Posted July 8, 2014 4:14 pm 


De Lima I.

@ 911

“Only reason he gives David toe Haye credit is because they fought and lost to the Klits…hes a Russian Nazi.”

Wrong. The reason he gives DH credit is because he deserves it.

Tark is a valuable asset to these boards. The guy knows boxing.

Posted July 8, 2014 2:51 pm 


ECAT

…or AnonymousE

Posted July 8, 2014 2:13 pm 


ECAT

911, Sredmond is right. A lot of TARK’s and ECAT’s posts are FAKE!!! 2 or 3 of Sredmonds posts too… It was either Anonymous or Hamster.

Posted July 8, 2014 2:13 pm 


911

SREDMOND–Tark is a Russian Nazi.

Posted July 8, 2014 12:30 pm 


SREDMOND

That’s NOT the real Tark below, Tark is an IDIOT and conspiracy theorist but he is not an overt racist in my experience.. His dimwit lover Bears is the bigot.

Posted July 8, 2014 12:12 pm 


LOL

So David toe Haye is better than Ali now? Oh my god,, this guy needs to do stand up comedy.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:54 am 


C-Boy

David “TOE” Haye is a bonafied “BUM”…

Posted July 8, 2014 11:50 am 


Anonymous

Tark so you pick out a handful of Ali’s boring fights?? What about the boring fights Vlad were in…WAY more junk fights then Ali.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:24 am 


D2000

The Klit sisters ain’t sht…Didn’t fight anybody but bums.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:22 am 


911

He’s sounds like a Nazi…you should go to a skinhead Nazi forum Tark.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:04 am 


Anonymous

Tark you are the dumbest person on the planet.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:02 am 


TARK

So what if I’m Russian I always put down Ali because he’s black and I don’t respect his legacy. None of fights were any good they were like watching paint dry..Vlad fighting David Toe Haye was the most exciting hw fight ever! David Toe Haye was better than Muhammed Ali.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:01 am 


TARK

More from FAKE TARK using racist remarks

Posted July 8, 2014 9:21 am 


Anonymous

KEEP TODAY”S HW CIRCUS ROLLING.

Posted July 8, 2014 8:45 am 


TARK

I am not Russian you thick co on

Posted July 8, 2014 6:11 am 


D 2000

He’s entitled to his own opinion, I don’t agree but whatev. what does him being Russian have to do with it?

Posted July 8, 2014 5:50 am 


C BOY

Tark is Russian why are you surprised?

Posted July 8, 2014 5:37 am 


Anonymous

Wow!!!! #1 of all time after being KO’d at young age by Corrie Sanders, Purrity, and Lamont Brewster’s fat ass! Funny Tark…got anymore jokes?? lol

Posted July 8, 2014 5:35 am 


Anonymous

Berto holding a title is more embarrassing than Chagaev holding one. At least Chagaev only lost to the best. Wladimir and Povetkin. Berto lost to journeyman Jesus Soto Karass, Victor Ortiz and the much smaller Robert Guerrero

Posted July 8, 2014 5:11 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

They never hated the Klitschkos in America during the early part of their championship level career. Vitali was way more popular than Lennox Lewis, and Wladimir drew big tv numbers when he was the WBO champion up until the time he beat Byrd for the IBF belt. Interest started to wane after that and the fights HBO picked up were found unimpressive by the U.S fans. You can’t say Britain started to dislike the HW division because the champion wasn’t British can you? Certain groups of people just perceived the standard to have dropped and the entertainment level to have waned. In my opinion the standard went back up over the past few years, but people saw too many opponents for the Klitschkos just turning up to lose or out of shape and the same old Joe Louis criticism came their way.

Posted July 8, 2014 3:56 am 


You know nothing jon snow

eric

Americans and the past champs of the 70′s and 80′s kinfolk are hurt, it’s like the KKK hurt over president Obama being so called black in charge.

Two different things with the same effect.
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That is the dumbest lost ever. The KKK REALY.are that dumb naive liberal idiot kid.. Obama aint black son, and he’s the most anti American president ever. He’s calls terriost, Freedom fighters.

Posted July 8, 2014 2:52 am 


TARK

Yes… Obviously a FAKE TARK who said heavyweights suck

Joseph Parker is just another undefeated heavyweight hitting the scene… Ali was the only top heavyweight who the 6’0” X 197 Leon Stinks, with his weak record 6-0-1 ever beat.

1. Wladimir Klitschko… 2. Kubrat Pulev… 3. Deontay Wilder… 4. Bermane Stiverne… 5. Tyson Fury… 6. David Haye… 7. Bryant Jennings… 8. Alexander Povetkin… 9. Vyacheslav Glazkov 10. Carlos Takam… 11. Mike Perez… 12. Lucas Browne… 13. Andy Ruiz… 14. Ruslan Chagaev… 15. Dereck Chisora… 16. Steve Cunningham… 17. Alexander Ustinov… 18. Odlanier Solis… 19. Alex Leapai… 20. Tony Thompson… 21. Tomasz Adamek… 22. Malik Scott… 23. Chris Arreola… 24. Luis Ortiz… 25. Joseph Parker

I’ll take any of those, plus about 50 more of today’s heavyweights versus some top ranked guys of the 1970’s who got title shots, such as: Dave Zyglewicz… Terry Daniels… Ron Stander… Jean Pierre Coopman… Chuck Wepner… Richard Dunn… and Manuel Ramos

Global heavyweight ranks were thin in the 70’s… 4 Americans make the Top-25 today… If Americans were dominating the heavyweight ranks we would say they’re GREAT!!!!

Posted July 7, 2014 10:35 pm 


PEEJ

Wlad is the champion. That is why anybody who has a title, wins a title or whatever is merely a titlest.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:48 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Throw the fake WBA belt into the trash or GTFO.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:14 pm 


Nameless

Haye needs to get his glass ass back in the ring

Posted July 7, 2014 7:09 pm 


Tark imposter?

TARK

You’re right SRedmond the HW division sucks and has been sucking for years.

Posted July 7, 2014 12:26 pm

Posted July 7, 2014 6:10 pm 


eric

Americans and the past champs of the 70’s and 80’s kinfolk are hurt, it’s like the KKK hurt over president Obama being so called black in charge.

Two different things with the same effect.

That’s a huge part of all the hate over the klitchkos and the heavyweights, not all but most of it in the states.

I’m telling you this country is full of racism and it go’s both ways.

Racism is racism doesn’t matter who it’s coming from and nobody gets a pass.

Okay I’m done.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:57 pm 


Joe

Glad that he is the regular heavyweight champion.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:54 pm 


Turb0-H@mster..

You want to go around trashing whole divisions we can trash several more harshly than the HW division given some of the utter bums challenging for, or holding titles in other divisions.

The HW division has a King. It has a master, probably the hardest punching fighter in its history.

He’s marrying a little Holywood starlet, his bro is getiing political power, this is the classic days of HW, just not for Americans.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:13 pm 


Turb0-H@mster..

Chagaev holding a title is no worse than Berto once holding a title at WW, and people say that is a deep division.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:09 pm 


eric

I thought James Toney had the buttermilk biscuit belt, he should take on fury for his jello pudding pop’s belt.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:00 pm 


Anonymous

The Heavyweight farce and to be frank this whole boxing farce tells me that when they drop the bomb (and they will), we’ll all be caught with our pants down.

Posted July 7, 2014 4:08 pm 


Anonymous

boxing. the only sport to have five world champions at the same time.

Posted July 7, 2014 3:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Yes this division is an embarrassment to the whole of boxing… Talentless sloths being paraded around as the next big thing fooling only those who wish to be fooled or lack the commonsense to note a lot of these guys are bonafide SCRUBS…

Posted July 7, 2014 12:57 pm 


TARK

You’re right SRedmond the HW division sucks and has been sucking for years.

Posted July 7, 2014 12:26 pm 


stuck in a moment

Its amazing how that can be such a big deal over there

Posted July 7, 2014 11:39 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

I don’t mind there being 4 different world titles. Although it was funny when Homer Simpson was lamenting the loss of his couch and Joe Fraizer tried to console him by explaining he lost the heavyweight championship of the world, and Homer replies ‘Big deal! There’s like 3 of those! That couch was one of a kind.’ The fact is world titles allow many many more fighters to make a decent career money wise, whereas having only 1 recognised world title means countless top fighters fought their hearts out against other contenders but never got a shot and therefore never really made any money. In the old days you had to either be the champion, or somehow very popular and a big draw, to make anything close to decent money.

If you win a world title you make a handsome amount of money in the modern game even if you’re not number one. It would be wonderful to know that there was just one champ per division, but it wouldn’t benefit the people in the sport. Besides you can always pretty much recognize whose really undisputed or the genuine number 1 in any division. The WBA is simply uniquely bad because it’s creating multiple versions of one world title, that is not good.

Posted July 7, 2014 10:52 am 


SREDMOND

The HW division is a truly sad place, no matter how spin doctors try to sell this as a “magical time” for the weight class.

Posted July 7, 2014 10:51 am 


Anonymous

both poor gatekeepers. move on.

Posted July 7, 2014 10:44 am 


GingerWhinger

It looks like Evander already has his eye on Chagaev’s belt

Posted July 7, 2014 10:41 am 


SREDMOND

Fres Oquendo? you gotta be kidding me!

Posted July 7, 2014 10:31 am 


badger

is there a copper belt? this belt is confusing.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:44 am 


Neil (pomy)

Chagaev …… well there’s one hell of an easy route to a title for any semi-decent contender.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:40 am 


Exiled Yank

i still only pay attention to the Ring belt. It’s not perfect, but there is only one per weight and it goes (usually) to the most deserving fighter and their ranking system is largely the least flawed and it doesn’t matter if they hold any other belt or not.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:32 am 


Exiled Yank

This is what I hate about the WBA. So WK is the unified or super champ, Chagaev is the regular champ. Who’s the “I jammed my thumb” champ? The other titles are no better. I liked it best when one division had one champion and everyone knew who it was.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:28 am 


Anonymous

this big pric# is a two time champ. hahahahahhhhhhhhh.

Posted July 7, 2014 9:17 am 


boxtradamus

Chagaev wins by decision exactly as I predicted! I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!

Posted July 7, 2014 8:59 am 


Anonymous

i agree Swedish Boxing Fan

This “regular” WBA world title belt is just a joke. We all know that Wladimir Klitschko is the real WBA champion, unified champion and undisputed heavyweight champion of the world with recognition by Ring/Lineal, WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO! Thats all but the WBC title (formerly his brother Vitali’s belt 2008-2014).

Klitschko have been THE champ sence 2006 and defended the world heavyweight crown 16 times and 17th coming up in September against mandatory Nr.1# undefeated contender Kubrat Pulev.

Bermane Stiverne is the recognised 2nd champ in the heavyweight division with his WBC world title belt but thats it and that belt hopefully will land in Wladimir’s grasp before he retires when that day come, but as of now he have stated that he feels great and that he wish to continue to fight and defend his world title(s) for a few years more.

Ruslan Chagaev vs. Fres Oquendo for the vacant “regular” WBA title. Non of them had fought the old way of defeating top contenders in earning that “title shot” to begin with and 2nd, its a paper made title, we all know who’s the real champion.

Posted July 6, 2014 5:00 pm

Posted July 7, 2014 8:59 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

Lennox Lewis has some culpability in what’s happened with all these world titles. After beating Holyfield to become undisputed he refused to fight the mandatory challengers; Ruiz WBA and Byrd IBF because he thought the bouts weren’t lucrative. I know you fight who makes you the most money but I like it when champions put some effort into unifying and retaining unification. When he retired he left 4 separate belt holders and then When Vitali retired it was utter chaos until Wladimir started to dominate

Posted July 7, 2014 8:13 am 


canuck

Same old story. Oquendo is good enough come close but not good enough to win against top 10 fighters.Chagaev is not what he used to be but still top 10.

Posted July 7, 2014 8:09 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

Wouldn’t be surprised if Chagaev ends up being an opponent for David Haye. If Haye returns at 70 percent then he will almost certainly win his September bout and then it’s up to him to choose what path he’s going down. He will be a big money attraction for Chagaev and The UK can happily pretend Haye’s fighting for a ‘world title’ again. I don’t know what, if anything, of real significance Chagaev can do from this point on. He looked seriously average against Travis Walker, potentially losing that fight. A Klitschko rematch is out of the question, Povetkin rematch?? Not sure. Whom else can he really defend against? The WBA seems destined to become a complete irrelevance in a few years time. Considering it was the second world title to be created I think that’s quite sad.

Posted July 7, 2014 8:09 am 


Ales

As some have noted, fight for WBA regular title was a bit weird from fan side. But the situation is such that:
– boxing organizations, boxer, promoters and all other involved love money.
– Chechnya’s president Khadirov has lots of money and boxing is very popular in Chechnya. Chagaev is almost local boy, still pretty big HW name.

Except for boxing fans that like exciting quality fights, all turned out happy. We can have a laugh or two, but that’s an ordinary day fight for boxers and cadavers flying in their shadows.

Posted July 7, 2014 7:40 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Looks like were all singing from the same song sheet for once. This International/Inter-continental/Regular/Super/Diamond/Interim malarkey has to stop!

Posted July 7, 2014 5:46 am 


Tark

Have I mentioned how much I despise Joe Calzaghe?

Posted July 7, 2014 5:45 am 


Tark

Chagaev is an all time great and that Fres Oquendo is a better fighter than a prime Muhammad Ali

Posted July 7, 2014 5:16 am 


Coulda Woulda

Where is Tark to tell us how Chagaev is an all time great and that Fres Oquendo is a better fighter than a prime Muhammad Ali …

Posted July 7, 2014 5:05 am 


burst a buble

Changev wakes up this morning as heavyweight champion of the world. Congratulations Ruslan, now go and clear up. We know its oné defence then stiverne. Well done Changev dont let people put you down.

Posted July 7, 2014 5:05 am 


Boxing Barlow

This ‘regular’ title rubbish has brought boxing down to a new low. I had a bit of a heated dicsussion recently with someone who is not as up with the boxing world as me who was arguing with me the GGG was the WBA super middleweight champion not Carl Froch! He swore it was the truth as he had recently read an atricle in a paper about him. It took me a while but I eventually was able to make him see that GGG was the WBA’s Super world middleweight champion while Carl Froch was the WBA’s world supermiddleweight champion. You can see where the confusion comes in for the casual fan. The boxing world needs to find a way of cutting all these titles out of the sport and is it doing it serious damage.

Posted July 7, 2014 4:26 am 


huckster

The problem with this fight, you cannot even figure out who is the gate keeper. We definitely know who the champion is.

Posted July 7, 2014 3:56 am 


Sad Ken

Nah, sorry, the WBA Super/Regular malarky makes no sense whatsover, neither does interim/diamond/silver/emeritus/inter continental or any of the other stupid variations.

Given these bodies are independant, we can’t stop there being a million abc organisations, but we can at least protest at each organisation having umpteen people claiming to be a champion at every weight.

Posted July 7, 2014 3:38 am 


Mike

The WBA “regular” heavyweight championship belt actually makes some sense. When the super champion, the real champion has so many belts as W. Klitschko does, then he has to make mandatory title defenses constantly. The WBA regular championship forces the contenders to line up in a glorified title eliminator. The regular champion and the super champion are not required to fight eachother for a number of years. This builds up the fight, allows the regular champ to make some money, and the super champ can fulfill his obligations to other belts.

Posted July 7, 2014 2:18 am 


gumboot

Fres Oquendo? Really? A majority decision over him makes Chagev a champion? The future looks jaded if this is it.

Posted July 7, 2014 12:53 am 


Master Ken

PEEJ, you trolling this thread? … And as a matter of curiousity, does Wlad fall under this category of non-Champion belt holders you speak of in your opinion?

Posted July 6, 2014 11:58 pm 


Master Ken

Exactly, Wladimir beat Povetkin for the “regular” WBA belt and WTF happened with it then? How in the world did the belt slip threw his fingers and a couple of fat blubber buddies end up fighting for it??? So let me get this straight, there are maybe 2 versions of the “regular” WBA belt?? 1 was the belt that Povetkin held (maybe Wlad should still have that one), and now Chag holds the 2nd?

Posted July 6, 2014 11:52 pm 


burst a buble

Changev is the real deal. The future of this division is in his hands and he is the best out there. Before arreolla and stiverne had there fight our people were already talking to King and SIGNED a deal to face Stiverne for the WBC title. However this opportunity came along which was taken. There will be oné defence before Changev takes the WBC title and takes real control of the heavyweight division.

Posted July 6, 2014 11:51 pm 


PEEJ

All belts are paper belts once there is a champion crowned. They are just merely titles. How anybody can defend a title saying they are champion just cause it says champion on the belt is ridiculous to me

Posted July 6, 2014 11:47 pm 


Jim

That title isn’t worth a cup of Starbucks coffee.

Posted July 6, 2014 9:43 pm 


Jim

WBA “regular” heavyweight title!! The WBA is a farce.

Posted July 6, 2014 9:41 pm 


Dart Fan 501

First ever televised 9 dart finish

youtube.com/watch?v=Kj5Xg4ADmhs

Posted July 6, 2014 8:26 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

The thing is that Alexander Povetkin was this “regular” WBA champion but after Wladimir Klitschko defeated him in October 2013 by clear UD including 5 knockdowns for Povetkin – There should no longer be a “regular” title as Wladimir should have taken that title to him + his SUPER champion status he already had sence 2011.

So this belt is just another paper made belt with no championship status as it comes from no champion in any line.
The title was never officaly “vacated” or stripped from Wladimir Klitschko as he would never surrender a world title belt as the true champion he is. Also the belt was never conqerd from him obviusly so the regular belt was just made up …again, simple and bad at same time.

Posted July 6, 2014 8:05 pm 


Del Boy

youtube.com/watch?v=kvDMlk3kSYg

Posted July 6, 2014 7:25 pm 


juneau

I’m off tomorrow and I’m going to make myself an omelette, but I make the woman a ‘regular’ omelette. It looks like a real one, although there’ll be no eggs or cheese in hers, maybe a few broken eggshells. Do you think she’ll notice?

And I should know this, but what if Vlad were to beat up Chagaev after Pulev? Does that make him WBA and WBA ‘regular’ champion too? What ideas would the greedy org. think of then….

Posted July 6, 2014 7:21 pm 


Haye Sputnik

The Power

youtube.com/watch?v=nm6DO_7px1I

Posted July 6, 2014 7:01 pm 


Wlad_God

Wow was that a boring fight, I fell asleep a few times, that’s no exaggeration. Fres has always had the motivation problem, the skills but not the heart, what a shame. Chag was a big fat blubber butt, serve him up for Wlad

Posted July 6, 2014 6:49 pm 


Master Ken

Cool, Chegaev won the make believe WBA belt. Pretending to win the real WBA belt is always a fun game.

Posted July 6, 2014 6:38 pm 


Billy Smart

I thought it was circus act.

Posted July 6, 2014 6:19 pm 


Dino

Fres always falls short.

Posted July 6, 2014 5:58 pm 


RAYGORDON REID

good

Posted July 6, 2014 5:36 pm 


Tony1244

This wasn’t a title fight of any kind. But if a fake belt gets people to fight, so be it.

Posted July 6, 2014 5:09 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

This “regular” WBA world title belt is just a joke. We all know that Wladimir Klitschko is the real WBA champion, unified champion and undisputed heavyweight champion of the world with recognition by Ring/Lineal, WBA, IBF, WBO & IBO! Thats all but the WBC title (formerly his brother Vitali’s belt 2008-2014).

Klitschko have been THE champ sence 2006 and defended the world heavyweight crown 16 times and 17th coming up in September against mandatory Nr.1# undefeated contender Kubrat Pulev.

Bermane Stiverne is the recognised 2nd champ in the heavyweight division with his WBC world title belt but thats it and that belt hopefully will land in Wladimir’s grasp before he retires when that day come, but as of now he have stated that he feels great and that he wish to continue to fight and defend his world title(s) for a few years more.

Ruslan Chagaev vs. Fres Oquendo for the vacant “regular” WBA title. Non of them had fought the old way of defeating top contenders in earning that “title shot” to begin with and 2nd, its a paper made title, we all know who’s the real champion.

Posted July 6, 2014 5:00 pm 


Tony1244

Even Holyfield could beat Chagaev.

Posted July 6, 2014 4:47 pm 



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Ruslan Chagaev wins “Regular” WBA heavyweight title with majority decision win over Fres Oquendo









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