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Posted July 30, 2014 1:58 pm

Posted July 30, 2014 5:50 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh I can’t disagree with that he was way off even a bad night. I liked that canelo was able to do what he did tonight. I’m still unsure of the decision but he fought a much better fight tonight against a more dangerous opponent than mayweather. Be interesting to see if canelo fought this fight last year. I don’t want to see it again now at a catchweight and I think mayweather is past what he was last year.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:27 am 


Happyboy

Auzie – I’m totally against catchweights for title fights, every pound matters otherwise why would they make it a point to request for it. You wanna beat a champion fight him at his best or GTFOH. Cotto, ODH and Alvarez were weakened by Pac and May ( biggest Prima donnas ever in the history of boxing). ODH had not faught as a WW in over 10 years before Pac weight drained him and Roach went on record telling us they knew ODH was weaker and couldn’t pull the trigger. I’ve seen all of ODH fights and what I saw on fightnight vs Pac was not the GOLDENBOY ( I switched off the TV by the 4th round)

Posted July 13, 2014 4:51 am 


Adrian

Happyboy

Auzie – and when he beats Thurman, what next?

HahAhahahahaha … He will never fight Thurman let alone beat him ! Hahahahaha

Posted July 13, 2014 2:27 am 


Auzbox

Just so you know where is it stated canelo was 9 what website or what ranking company?

Posted July 12, 2014 11:43 pm 


Auzbox

Sorry to answer you real question no I hate them for title fights. They are weights and divisions for a reason and they have been there through history :)

Posted July 12, 2014 11:27 pm 


Auzbox

If he were to beat thurman I like PAC. But if not PAC Lara if he wins today or khan. I know khan does not deserve it but I like speed v speed :)

Posted July 12, 2014 11:26 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh happyboy i do support catchweights to make the big fights. Sometimes if there is a champ at 140 and 154 to meet at a catchweight is ok. But I don’t like the excuses people make after only having to loose 2 pound. ANOTHER FLOYD DUMB- your an idiot 2 pound didn’t change the canelo v floyd fight. If it was 148-150 then yes

Posted July 12, 2014 11:24 pm 


Mike Tyson

Agree. Thurman than porter and of coarse manny

Posted July 12, 2014 11:20 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

After thurman the winner of brook and porter. Brook is undefeated in 33 and porter also undefeated.

Posted July 12, 2014 11:17 pm 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

So he went 9 to 18 after floyd beat him. I don’t think so. He ain’t even 9 now. No happy they are all wrong. You make the weight or you don’t fight. Floyd included

Posted July 12, 2014 11:15 pm 


Happyboy

Auzbox – do you support catchweights for title fights?

Posted July 12, 2014 8:44 pm 


Happyboy

Auzie – and when he beats Thurman, what next?

Posted July 12, 2014 8:43 pm 


Just so you know

Auzbox, Canelo was no.9 p4p when Mayweather fought him you muppet.

Posted July 12, 2014 6:59 am 


ALEX ARIZA

Manny Paquiao is a juicer, look at his before and after picture of his head. Use to be the size of a coconut and now it’s the size of a small watermelon…

Posted July 12, 2014 5:30 am 


Auzbox

Thurman is floyds mandotary so floyd has to fight him or drop another title

Posted July 12, 2014 4:06 am 


Auzbox

Floyd is the last one to call for a catchweight not manny. Manny if he fights algieri will fight at 144 a disadvantage to himself as you say cotto was a catchweight but only 2 pound so manny must doing himself a real disservice

Posted July 12, 2014 2:07 am 


Auzbox

Happy boy we have been over this. Floyd had a two year layoff and came out of retirement to fight a lightweight which is what Marquez weighed the fight before.

Posted July 12, 2014 2:06 am 


s-dot

this better be a joke. Glad I boycotted many fights long ago, until he cuts ties with Arum I’m putting no money in either of their pockets.

Posted July 12, 2014 12:01 am 


Hecdog

The great Manny Pacquiao is at it again with his magical presence. Recently, two cattle rustlers were on the run in the Phillipines and told authorities that they would turn themselves in if the Sarangani Congressman, Manny Pacquiao came to arrest them. Manny was contacted, made his way to the scene, and the two men turned themselves in. I continue to be in awe of this great fighter and human being. All he does is good in this world. How can a man be blessed with so much talent and character? Manny is a Congressman, actor, Singer, Model, made the cover of TIME Magazine, invited to dinner by President Obama, Coach of a top Basketball League/Player/Coach, Greatest Fighter of All Time, Kobe Bryant designed a shoe after being inspired by Manny Pacquiao, Top Clothing designer. Manny Pacquiao is The Most Influential Person in the world. Add all this to being the only 8 division boxing champion in history. Manny Pacquiao beat the best of his time soundly. He will go down as the greatest fighter of all time. There is no argument about this. Unless you can name another fighter with 8 different division titles, the argument is mute. Manny Pacquiao will be president of the Philippines soon. The world belongs to Manny Pacquiao. Trust me on this. Manny is the best!

Posted July 11, 2014 11:33 pm 


Just a boxing fan

I was really hoping MP was going to fight Danny Garcia next. Algieri is a step down IMO.

Posted July 11, 2014 11:30 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

*since the most devastating KO

Posted July 11, 2014 10:26 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Algerie might mess around and outbox Manny and I wouldn’t be surprised. Manny was never a great boxer. He never had true boxing skills only seemingly and inexplicably boundless energy. He was a roided up guy with favorable match-ups as the weight classes increased. He’s running on fumes and he doesn’t have the skill like mayweather to fall back on. In contrast, Mayweather’s a step slower and still a step ahead. The tiny flaws of holes in Manny Pacquiao are getting bigger since the most devastating of the last decade or so and everyone is seeing what I’ve been trying to explain now for years going back to around 2007-08; SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

Posted July 11, 2014 10:25 pm 


You’re full of Bull Crap Happyboy

Happyboy spinning fairy tales again.

Pacman accepted any and all mutually applied tests. Whenever Pac accepted Floyd’s ever changing demands in ongoing negotiations, Floyd stopped negotiating and took a vacation… All testing issues were resolved years ago — when Pacquiao capitulated to everything Floyd wanted.

Floyd’s last ploy in avoiding a beating was to object to Bob Arum being associated with Pacman. That was never a problem before — but Floyd needed a new logjam to stop the fight.

Posted July 11, 2014 9:32 pm 


Happyboy

Pedman is the only boxer to outright refuse a harmless, random and mutually applied OST to fight the best of his era for $40M. ODH, Cotto, Margarito & Morales were @catchweights. Pedman refused to take OST vs JMM 4 and got KTFO by a 40 yr old boxer who Floyd toyed with after a 2yr lay off.

Posted July 11, 2014 8:44 pm 


Auzbox

Didn’t have any trouble with dela or cotto but floyd did. Mosely took rounds off floyd but not manny. Hatton was killed at his best weight not 147. When’s the last time floyd beat a top 10 p4p. Ill tell you. About 4 years ago. Manny did it in April

Posted July 11, 2014 7:59 pm 


Auzbox

Khan beat chino unanimously, floyd schooled a lightweight Marquez manny dropped him 3 times at his best weight in the first

Posted July 11, 2014 7:57 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao in his prime was simply unbeatable. Once he got the experience and turned into a true professional fighter, no fighter could have ever beaten him. Morales beat him while Manny was still in the learning process. Ped Man Marquez beat him using his Angel Hereida nutritional mix and his early losses where he was fighting for pennies were meaningless fights. Manny had no idea how to box. Fast forward to his remarkable reign of terror and you will see a fighting machine with more power, speed, athleticism, graceful movement, and ring generalship than ever before seen. The boxing world was in awe. All the great champions like Tyson, Roy Jones, Holyfield, Lewis, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Holmes and Hagler gave Manny Pacquiao his props. They were fascinated by the way he fought everyone and destroyed everyone. This from a man standing 5ft 6inches tall and having to eat 10 meals a day just to make weight. This is a fighter that had no worries about the size of his opponent or the experience they had. Manny Pacquiao went right at the freight train that was Ricky Hatton. Yes the Hatton that Gave Floyd all he wanted until he was beaten, and yest the Hatton that beat of the great Kostya Tyzu. Manny put more than just an exclamation mark on that victory. I dare anyone to show me one fighter in boxing history that had the hand and foot speed equivalent that of Manny Pacquiao. Anyone with that type of one punch power. Anyone with the ferociousness that this man possess. Manny has every punch in his arsenal. I’ve seen what Ali, Tyson, SRLeonard, Hagler and the rest of the legends did in their prime. They were great. Plenty of skills and fire power, but none match up to Manny Pacquiao in his prime. How many of those great fighters won 8 division titles? None, trust me when I say Manny Pacquiao is the best ever. Manny is the best.

Posted July 11, 2014 7:43 pm 


You know nothing jon snow

Manny in his primes got ktfo by a 49 year old mexican

Posted July 11, 2014 7:15 pm 


You know nothing jon snow

Why doesn’t Pactrannie fight Chino.

Posted July 11, 2014 7:14 pm 


You know nothing jon snow

Yeah Auzbox.. But Pacroide got ktfo by Mayweaters leftovers.

Posted July 11, 2014 7:14 pm 


TARK

More FAKE TARK posts from “It’s me, Idiot”

Posted July 11, 2014 7:02 pm 


Auzbox

OK: I love this guy. Manny is done and beating 3 p4p. What’s floyd when he can’t unanimously beat khan leftovers? Must be on his death bed

Posted July 11, 2014 6:48 pm 


brza da originator

Btw same thing happened oscar against manny . But it’s on osscar n saul to fight at their best weights . May n pac do

Posted July 11, 2014 4:04 pm 


brza da originator

To give an example of how weights work lets say mikey garcia a guy who fights 17 #south of floyd fought canelo at 150 # just 2# less than his weight against floyd . Now technically thats still 15# more of an advantage than floyd (147 usual fightin weight) was . If this fantasy match against mikey happened under said conditions the slow as molasses weight drained canelo wud barely land a glove on mickey all the while gettin outboxed n probably stopped. Now do u understand . That lesson was free people ur welcome.

Posted July 11, 2014 4:01 pm 


Just so you know

Brza.., from your comments on this thread and others I can tell you are a guy that knows his boxing so I’m not going to get into a tit for tat with you that could go on and on its just my opinion that no matter the circumstances, and I myself wish Mayweather had fought Canelo at 154, that Mayweather deserves more credit for that fight than Pacquiao deserves for rematching Bradley.

Posted July 11, 2014 4:01 pm 


brza da originator

@just so . Ok bro obviously u don t understand the repricussions of cutting weight so here it is . People were givin canelo a chance against may cos hes a significantly bigger guy but heres the catch . Bein bigger was actually disadvantage to canelo not an advantage because he s too big to healthily make 152 . He had to cut into his muscle mass n probably had to go a couple if day s without food n a day without liquids . This not only affects ur physical self but also ur mental self slowin down ur reactions n responses . Listen to what dre ward said about saul at the weigh in . I repeat its on canelo to fight at his brst weight n at the mo he can barely make 155 . These r facts people not opinions

Posted July 11, 2014 3:51 pm 


Ok

Hecdog says Manny Pacquiao in his prime was simply unbeatable? Marquez would have something to say about that, last time we checked he been dropped 5 times right? Manny is done he fights bums and cannot knock them out Alegri is another bum…

Posted July 11, 2014 2:20 pm 


Hecdog

Manny Pacquiao in his prime was simply unbeatable. Once he got the experience and turned into a true professional fighter, no fighter could have ever beaten him. Morales beat him while Manny was still in the learning process. Ped Man Marquez beat him using his Angel Hereida nutritional mix and his early losses where he was fighting for pennies were meaningless fights. Manny had no idea how to box. Fast forward to his remarkable reign of terror and you will see a fighting machine with more power, speed, athleticism, graceful movement, and ring generalship than ever before seen. The boxing world was in awe. All the great champions like Tyson, Roy Jones, Holyfield, Lewis, De La Hoya, Trinidad, Holmes and Hagler gave Manny Pacquiao his props. They were fascinated by the way he fought everyone and destroyed everyone. This from a man standing 5ft 6inches tall and having to eat 10 meals a day just to make weight. This is a fighter that had no worries about the size of his opponent or the experience they had. Manny Pacquiao went right at the freight train that was Ricky Hatton. Yes the Hatton that Gave Floyd all he wanted until he was beaten, and yest the Hatton that beat of the great Kostya Tyzu. Manny put more than just an exclamation mark on that victory. I dare anyone to show me one fighter in boxing history that had the hand and foot speed equivalent that of Manny Pacquiao. Anyone with that type of one punch power. Anyone with the ferociousness that this man possess. Manny has every punch in his arsenal. I’ve seen what Ali, Tyson, SRLeonard, Hagler and the rest of the legends did in their prime. They were great. Plenty of skills and fire power, but none match up to Manny Pacquiao in his prime. How many of those great fighters won 8 division titles? None, trust me when I say Manny Pacquiao is the best ever. Manny is the best.

Posted July 11, 2014 11:57 am 


Just so you know

By the way by dangerous I didn’t necessarily mean being in the most physical harm I meant risky – although Canelo is more dangerous than Bradley whichever way you look at it – and Mayweather is statistically the most dangerous fight out there as up til now the form is if you fight him you lose.

Posted July 11, 2014 10:26 am 


Viking1

Both Pac´n Floyd fights have become a joke these days, man cannot understand how i use to look forward to them before, it´s all about growing as a boxingfan i suppose.

Posted July 11, 2014 10:05 am 


Just so you know

Auzbox, Canelo was ranked number 9 by the Ring prior to the Mayweather fight. Google it.

Posted July 11, 2014 9:39 am 


Just so you know

Brza.., yes I do think beating a younger bigger world champion at a weight higher than you are naturally is more credible than rematching a guy everyone believes you beat comfortably the first time. And yes 152 is still bigger than Mayweather naturally is.

Posted July 11, 2014 9:35 am 


brza da originator

@ just so u knowAnyone who thinks schooling a 152 version of canelo who 5 months later can t even fight at 154 is a more credible win tgan bradley at 147 needs to stfu. Anyone that ever boiled down to make weight knows goin too far south by 2 pounds is a killer n it fon t matter how much u put on in the followin 24 . Saul gave up his record for dollars ( don t think he wud have bet may at 154 anyway ) n good look to him . Do u really think his game plan against the best pure boxer in the world was to prescision punch him from the outside while using little activity n movement ROFL . Feel free to ans back this post n I will school u some more . I aint no floyd r manny fanboy n these r facts not opinions.

Posted July 11, 2014 9:25 am 


hibdeebibdee

“Manny Pacquiao is the greatest pure fighter that has ever put on a pair of gloves.”

No he isn’t, Hecdog. Believe it if you want, but that’s hardly true.

Posted July 11, 2014 9:25 am 


Auzbox

And that’s by ring 1 p4p ratings in the world and I was wrong Bradley is top 5 not 6. And he was 13 after he beat PAC and 3 after Marquez but now 5. Still better than maidana :)

Posted July 11, 2014 9:05 am 


Auzbox

Just so you know you fool. Canelo was 18 p4p before mayweather hahaha you lying idiot. Shouldn’t lie about things you can google you stupid fool.

Posted July 11, 2014 9:03 am 


Auzbox

Canelo would but Bradley would fight him at 154 not 152. Bradley is looking to challenge cotto for the best belt at middleweight so that’s balls. You can’t beat facts Bradley still top 6 p4p. Where is maidana?

Posted July 11, 2014 8:59 am 


Auzbox

No one cares who is more dangerous, if boxing was rated by dangerous opponents floyd isn’t top 20 so what’s your point. Canelo was not number 9. His highest rating ever is now and that’s 10 so stop with the lies. Write facts not make things up to make floyds majority wins look better.

Posted July 11, 2014 8:57 am 


Just so you know

Auzbox, Canelo was no.9 p4p when Mayweather beat him and if you think fighting Bradley, who everyone thought Pacquiao already had defeated, is more dangerous or a harder fight than than Canelo you are an absolute moron. Canelo would murder Bradley if they ever were to fight.

Posted July 11, 2014 8:05 am 


Day in day out…

Auzbox is still rambling on about no.3 p4p….

Posted July 11, 2014 7:48 am 


And so it goes on…

Auzbox is still rambling on about no.3 p4p….

Posted July 11, 2014 7:47 am 


Auzbox

PAC dominating p4p guys still even when he is done. Geee he must be good

Posted July 11, 2014 6:29 am 


Mbuyiseli

Weirdest thing is JMM catching Pacquaio with a lucky punch that made Manny nap for 10 minutes. It was truly a lucky punch. Wait didn’t JMM KD Pac with an overhand right in the 3rd? JMM was on PED’s, so Pacquaio wasn’t when he faced Cotto? Pactards have no sense of reasoning, that’s why I just insult them, period.

Posted July 11, 2014 6:19 am 


Mbuyiseli

Tark comparing Floyd to amateurs. Tark you can keep the crown of the dumbest pr!ck on this site. Astonishing. Like I said yesterday these idiots makes churches/religions rich everyday.

Posted July 11, 2014 6:11 am 


Mbuyiseli

What did we expect, Hecdog with a thesis on crap regarding Pacquaio and Mayweather. Hecdog don’t bother nobody reads your blabber.

Posted July 11, 2014 5:57 am 


Hecdog

hibdeebibdee my friend, Manny Pacquiao is the greatest pure fighter that has ever put on a pair of gloves. The closest fighter to him is the great Roberto Duran. The difference is that Manny has won 8 division titles, something no one has ever accomplished. Manny Pacquiao learned his trade on his own. Freddie taught him a few things, but Manny would have been just as great had he never had a trainer. This man was born to fight. His incredible debilitating fighting style has left many fans haunted by the pure savagery that Manny displayed in his career. The reign of terror he laid on Morales, Barrera, Hatton, Cotto, Margarito, Marquez, Diaz, De La Hoya and others will never be seen again. Manny Pacquiao should have been put in prison for what he did to these guys. And some wonder why Floyd Mayweather wanted no part of fighting Manny Pacquiao. Manny Pacquiao had no real boxing training like most. He didn’t have the amateur or olympic background that fighters like De La Hoya and Mayweather had. No, he did it on his own. Today, Manny Pacquiao destroys all of the 147 pound contenders and champions. Did you not see the beating he recently gave to a young, unbeaten Timothy Bradley. He practically taught new champion Shawn Porter in training and actually made him quit a time or two while sparring. He also schooled and beat up Provodnikov in training. Manny is a legend that comes around once in a life time. Canelo or Lara best not take a fight with Manny. We must remember that Manny is a special fighter. If Cotto dare to step into the ring again with Manny, guess what? he wins a 9th world title. I would not be surprised if he challenges and beats the great GGG. Manny Pacquiao fears no one, but everyone fears him. Look at Ped Man Marquez, he would rather cut his head off before fighting Manny Pacquiao again. And the reason is that he can’t get away with his special nutritional mix that gives him acne as a 40 year old. Manny Pacquiao in my humble opinion beats everyone from 140-160 and maybe as high as 168 pounds. trust me on this, Manny can do what seems impossible. How many people would have thought he would have done something no one in boxing had ever done like win 8 different division titles. Manny is the best ever until someone wins 8 division titles or more. Exactly, no one will ever do this again. Manny is the best.

Posted July 11, 2014 3:01 am 


Auzbox

Yeh Marquez is a bum just a hall of famer bum. You live in your mothers garage and wouldn’t of boxed a day in your life that I know for certain.

Posted July 11, 2014 2:42 am 


Ok

Kahn is a bum and so is Marquez but he dropped Manny like a bad habit. Pac wants no prts of Marquez 5 he never has he is ducking for sure. Auzbox you a ball licker of Manny. Algerli who the hell is he a bum who beat another bum ass Ruslan all these guys are crap.

Posted July 11, 2014 1:03 am 


Auzbox

You idiots write the same stuff every time on a manny thread. You get shut down every time. Manny beat 3 p4p and that’s all there is to it

Posted July 11, 2014 12:42 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Bradley beats maidana easy. Khan did hahahahahahahaha hahahahahahaha

Posted July 11, 2014 12:39 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Ortiz has proven to be a huge bum, guerro last time out was hit at will by a nobody. Maidana was never special at all only floydoids now think he was cause he handled floyd like he did khan. Wasnt even his hardest fight. Couldn’t even mark his face through 12

Posted July 11, 2014 12:36 am 


brza da originator

@ teflon im a fan of may n pac as fighters n I love nothin more than callin out hypocritical fanboys . 2 facts for u rios beats up n stops ortiz n bradley could never lose to gurrero . 1 more fact the pac algieri fights sucks so if u wanna rip pac over somethin why not use this . That lesson was free

Posted July 11, 2014 12:32 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Bradley top 10 p4p I can’t see maidana in the top 25, can you point him out for me

Posted July 11, 2014 12:32 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Sorry where you place maidana isn’t going to fly as once again people far more knowledgable than you pick the list and Alexander bashed maidana and Bradley stopped him with ease. To bad

Posted July 11, 2014 12:31 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Teflon your no great boxing head. The real brains of boxing choose the list and ratings not forum floyd butt lickers. I don’t care of you opinion of the p4p list. Maidana has never been that good he beat a lightweight and being a stoppage guy, couldn’t even stop the lightweight. Floyd struggled against a guy Alexander handled like it was your mother

Posted July 11, 2014 12:29 am 


Ok

Auzbox Kahn been down more times than a Vegas hooker. Miadana is tougher then Bradley for sure for what its worth…

Posted July 11, 2014 12:28 am 


teflon

Azzbox I guess you think Algieri and Rios are good fighters as well?? lol poor retard forget rankings no one respects Bradley they never have, Manny beats him and no one even bats a eye he won the first time. But hell no one even bothered to buy the fight on ppvs and why is Manny not fighting in Vegas? instead he is fighting in third world countries no one buys this crap. And No one is crying Maidana tried and came up short, Next he will again and Manny will still be on the outside looking in with nothing

Posted July 11, 2014 12:26 am 


Auzbox

I don’t care what you think the ref didn’t take any points and floyd in the Ortiz fight was a dirty pig. No unanimous decisions in the last 12 months. You all said floyd walks through maidana and now that floyd couldn’t he is a world beater haha khan beat him unanimously and dropped him :)

Posted July 11, 2014 12:21 am 


teflon

Azzbox Floyd didnt struggle with Maidana the reff should have been calling that BS. Dude was dirty a d tried to use everything but the kitchen sink and still came up short, Next fight will be a shut out….

Posted July 11, 2014 12:18 am 


Auzbox

And your right it is 2014 manny beat 3 p4p and floyd couldn’t even unanimously beat a guy not rated p4p. To bad son

Posted July 11, 2014 12:17 am 


Auzbox

Manny just beat 3 p4p rated by ring magazine someone with a hell of alot more boxing knowledge than you muppet. Floyd doesn’t fight top 10 p4p anymore. Canelo wasn’t even top 10 haha

Posted July 11, 2014 12:17 am 


Ok

Azzbox beating Bradley wasn’t sht and no surprise hell Manny won the first time Bradley was a number 3 nobody hiw only good win was gainst Alexander who quit in the ring. And if Manny was not acting like a pre-madana and made a long ring entrance and pissed off the judges so they gave it to Tiny Tim. Bradley cant punch his way out a paper bag no one respects this win over him except Manny loyal nut huggers. Beat Marquez convincingly KO him not a close fight Beat the winner of Lara vs. Canelo then we can talk or ever beat Mattyysse. Before he will be great no one cares about 09 when he put on a string of wins its 2014…

Posted July 11, 2014 12:14 am 


Auzbox

Get this straight manny gets kod then beats the 3 p4p but floyd is still undefeated but can’t unanimously beat khan leftovers and a guy that’s never even been looked at p4p haha. And floyd never offered in 09. The offer was only to stand if arum was not involved so it was a fake offer as arum would never have let it go ahead. Great champs come back and beat p4p top guys. Duds struggle to majority wins against khan leftovers LMAO

Posted July 11, 2014 12:04 am 


brza da originator

@ok u gonna respond to my post fanboy . How can u respond when u defended garcia salsa on another post . Is that because danny might get the floyd fight off the back of this haymon hype match . Real boxing fans keep there principles from fighter to fighter .U need to shut the f**k up fanboy .

Posted July 11, 2014 12:02 am 


Boxtradamus

The GREATEST PURE Fighter of all times in Boxing Gloves is Harry Greb. The GREATEST Boxer is Mayweather.

Posted July 10, 2014 11:59 pm 


Ok

Manny had his chance in 09 and blew it over the blood testing and idiots were saying Floyd was unreasonable since then hella fighters have been caught on PEDS, Mannys career is over without big fights and Floyd cannot save him. This fight could have been big in 09 not today and certtainly not after he got KTFO…

Posted July 10, 2014 11:54 pm 


brza da originator

@ok were nt u defendin garcia on another thread for fightin the no 77 fighter in the world at lightweight . Gtfoh fanboy I deal in facts not opinions

Posted July 10, 2014 11:42 pm 


brza da originator

@ok answer me this who the f**k is pac supposed to fight . Pacs fought killers up from 108 to 150 .Haymon not lettin arum make a dime off his fighters . Haymon wants to bury his competition not work wit him in mutually beneficial fights . Btw this fight sucks

Posted July 10, 2014 11:39 pm 


Ok

Nobody is ducking Pac Manny hasnt had a decent fight in 5 years, since Oscar Arum ensures no one can deal with him aside from Floyd Manny has no big fights in his furture, poor ass clowns there are pleanty of other fighters besides Floyd to face Manny but we will see one of them, Poor pac always the bridesmaid never the bride. I love it when his pactards cry. Grown men acting like Bioootches..

Posted July 10, 2014 11:22 pm 


Adrian

And what is the weakest is mayweather ducking paqiao and just ghetto bash him that’s all he does hahAhahahahaha

Posted July 10, 2014 11:13 pm 


hibdeebibdee

” This is the greatest pure fighter in the history of boxing.”

Well that’s just bunk, Hecdog. Ever hear of a guy called Roberto Duran? Aaron Pryor? Mike Tyson? Julio Caesar Chavez? Alexis Arguello? Marcos Maidana? Ray “Boom Boom” Mancini? Just to name a few?

BTW, what is a “pure fighter?” Does Jerry Quarry know? How about Marvin Hagler?

You get my drift.

Posted July 10, 2014 10:23 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“So Marquez got 600k to face a guy 2 pounds heavier…”

That was at the weigh-in wasn’t it, and not on fight night?

Posted July 10, 2014 10:20 pm 


Auzbox

manny beat marquez years before Floyd to snowball

Posted July 10, 2014 9:18 pm 


Auzbox

Yeh next fight against an undeafeated world champion. Floyd is fighting a non champ who was beaten by khan hahahaha

Posted July 10, 2014 9:06 pm 


Auzbox

Manny beat him twice and at his best fighting weight. Just like hatton manny beat him at 140 his best weight not at 147. Hatton was fat and slow. Against manny at his best and dropped twice in the first then dead in the second

Posted July 10, 2014 9:05 pm 


You know nothing jon snow

Lmfao.. Pacroides next fight is against a former kick boxer ..

Posted July 10, 2014 8:55 pm 


You know nothing jon snow

You know what is week.. That Pactards are still jealous that Pacroid got ktfo by a 40 year old lightweight Mexican, Mayweather beat 3 years early.. Hahahahha …

Posted July 10, 2014 8:54 pm 


Adrian

You know what is weak it’s weak mayweather fighting Maidana and getting a split decision to a guy who suppose to be a punching bag that was set up for mini mayweather (broner ) and cherry picking went wrong ….the exscuse for mayweTher fans for looking bad to Maidana is ” Maidana improved ” hahHahahagahahah

Posted July 10, 2014 7:50 pm 


Auzbox

Marquez two fights before mayweather was a featherweight ha ha, and that idiot thinks its not ok for pac fighting a guy that fought at 140 twice before he met him at 147 but to fight a guy in Marquez that was a featherweight only a couple of fights ago LMAO I was called out by mosely Margo but ill wait till I lightweight calls me out and ill come back haha

Posted July 10, 2014 7:50 pm 


Adrian

BoxingFan4Life

@ The Prince that is so true!! @ Azubox Guerrero was an inetrm champ, alverez was the wbc jr middleweight champ & Maidana was the wba champ. Did Rios come into the pac fight a champ or former champ? You must be a Pactard!

PAC haters use to say PAC is done and shouldn’t fight anymore after he got ko’d by Marquez so you are really trying to criticize paqiao for fighting rios who btw it’s not true when you said rios wasn’t a former champ he WAS a champ and had only 1 loss to a guy he ko’d in his first title fight !
Paqiao came back beat rios in a tune up fight then beat number 3 guy in p#p list and people were saying he was finished so stop the hatred !!!

Posted July 10, 2014 7:44 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmond the funny thing with you is. If mayweatger was to gain 9 pound to fave GGG and GGG came in 2 over you would cry blue murder. Marquez best weight was 135 not 144 it makes a huge difference and your not the truth. He was his slowest and heaviest in his career. So floyd came out of retirement to fight a lightweight it’s quite as simple as that.

Posted July 10, 2014 7:43 pm 


Auzbox

Double standards: Marquez has done well ahainst PAC yes but is still loosing 2-1-1. Everyone else has failed miserably. You can’t change the p4p rankings they are what they are and decided by people far more knowledgable than you. Floyd beat Marquez easy but not hatton as easy or cotto or delahoya. Mosely took rounds of mayweather but not manny. Manny dropped Moseley. You can argue all day but manny has struggled with one guy who matches well with him where floyd has done poorer against the rest manny has destroyed. Manny fought Bradley in April and took him from his 3 p4p spot. Maidana is not even top 25 and was beaten by Alexander who was killed by Bradley. Khan dropped maidana and unanimously beat him. I can’t remember the last time floyd got a unanimous win.

Posted July 10, 2014 7:40 pm 


STARK , San Diego

Sredmond claims.., “Lets see how Loma and Rigo are looking when they have 22 pro fights. OH that is 11x the number of fights that Lomanchenko has now.”

Is this IDIOT soooooo stupid he can’t multiply 3 X 11???

Posted July 10, 2014 7:29 pm 


Fight Aficionado

LOL is there even one guy who wants to see Pac vs Algieri? No disrespect given he just notched a big win but everyone knows he’s the weak link in the division. Stepping up to Pac with no punching power is like walking in front of a train with a baseball bat.

Posted July 10, 2014 6:53 pm 


te tumbo

“Even so, a Pac/Algieri fight is also NOT irrelevant to boxing. Pac is still rated as one of the best boxers in the world and if he fights Algieri he’ll be fighting another champ” while avoiding serious risk or challenges and worthier opponents, which isn’t determined who owns a strap, e.g., Lamon Peterson. ThaT’s what makes Pacquiao* irrelevant to my favorite sport. nothing you’ve said has changed my mind. let’s agree to disagree. see you at the next crossroads.

Posted July 10, 2014 6:20 pm 


TARK

Sredmond claims.., “Lets see how Loma and Rigo are looking when they have 22 pro fights. OH that is 11x the number of fights that Lomanchenko has now.”

Is this IDIOT soooooo stupid he can’t multiply 3 X 11???

Posted July 10, 2014 6:13 pm 


Hecdog

Doesn’t really matter who fights Manny Pacquiao next. This is the greatest pure fighter in the history of boxing. He’s coming off another brilliant victory over a young, tougher than nails, undefeated boxer in Timothy Bradley who recently schooled Ped Man Marquez. The story and headlines is always Manny Pacquiao. Ped Man Marquez and Mayweather both refuse to fight the living legend, so what else can Manny do? He wants the biggest fights out there, but no one has the courage to step in there with him. Mayweather as I mentioned would rather jump off a bridge, Ped Man Marquez and his acne riddled body can’t get away with his special nutritional mix and Cotto knows better than to step in with Manny Pacquiao again in any weight class. So Algieri jumps at the chance to step into the ring with Manny Pacquiao. He has no chance. His 15 minutes of fame tripled already, and although he’s a good athlete and decent boxer, he will get destroyed. Manny Pacquiao at 80% is better than most elite fighters in their prime. The speed, movement, quickness, power and dominating fighting style is still there. Manny is fighting a bit smarter lately, but he can still bring that furious power punch any time he wants. His magnificent display of power punching and boxing can be brought out any time in any fight. Algieri best rethink his decision if he wants to make that walk into the ring with Manny Pacquiao. He best realize that this is not a game, and he’s not fighting Provodnikov. He’s not going to be able to use his little tap dancing feet and go where he wants to go fighting Manny Pacquiao. Trust me, if and Manny Manny drops Algieri, he’s not going to make it out of the round. Manny Pacquiao is a treat for boxing fans all over the world to watch. I highly suggest that someone tell Algieri not to take this fight before it’s too late. He’s nowhere near ready to fight Manny Pacquiao. The world will once again come alive when the fight has been signed. Manny Pacquiao is boxing. He has carried the sport for over 10 years. The Fighting Congressman, King of the Ring, Pride of the Philippines, and the best ever was will the world together to see him unleash his fury on his sacrificial opponent, in this case it will be Algieri. Manny is the best!

Posted July 10, 2014 5:56 pm 


kato3388

I’m just giving the same amount of excuses as you do dude. I hear ya… 1lbs., 2 lbs. blah, blah, blah…

Marquez was outclassed by Maytwitter…. he was also outclaseed against Bradley… Hmmmmmm… could JMM have issues with slick type boxers with great ring movement?

Posted July 10, 2014 5:09 pm 


SREDMOND

It was contracted that he could pay an overage of 300k per and he did… So Marquez got 600k to face a guy 2 pounds heavier… BIG DEAL he still made no case for being able to hang with FMJ…. I mean he got gifted ONE round on some cards it was a whitewash… ACCEPT it and stop peddling excuses Kato you sound like Tark…

Posted July 10, 2014 5:01 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“HIBDEEBIBDEE, i’m open to being enlightened. please proceed to explain why Algieri v. Pacquiao* is such an important and relevant matchup for Boxing?”

That’s not what you said, te tumbo. You said Pacquiao was irrelevant to boxing. Even so, a Pac/Algieri fight is also NOT irrelevant to boxing. Pac is still rated as one of the best boxers in the world and if he fights Algieri he’ll be fighting another champ. Hardly anything irrelevant about that.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:56 pm 


kato3388

BIG difference here was that Maytwiiter didn’t even bother making the weight.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:51 pm 


kato3388

Lying??? Lying?? I wouldn’t consider that a lie. A minute exaggeration, maybe. Similar to how Manny never forced Oscar down in weight. It was Oscars choice to come in below because he thought it’d make him quicker.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Kato, you are LYING Mayweather never “forced Marquez up in weight” JMM called him out while Floyd was retired… Its sad that Floyd is so damn good he turned a GREAT boxer like Marquez into a tuneup fight but we have seen JMM compete with other top welters ie Pac and Bradley the ONLY excuse for him losing every second of his fight with Floyd is that Mayweather is on a different level… He called FMJ’s defense “incredible” as for the Cotto bout it would never happen Koncz and Freddy don’t want Manny boxing above 150 pounds which is prudent because Pac has no cache above 147 beyond the fight at 150 against Margo who was NOBODY at 154…

Posted July 10, 2014 4:37 pm 


kato3388

@SREDMOND – And this is why we have different opinions. I agree with your analysis BUT…. BUT… do u really think that if Manny tests his power, that he’d stand and trade the way he did last time? Manny felt Cotto’s power, hence the busted ear drum.. but Manny is faster than Cotto, and if he is as smart as I think he is… He’s move around much more if Cotto is really more powerful. I think Manny would find a way. At this point it’s all speculation on both our parts.

@RENTAS – thanks for pointing that fact out that the Maytwitter followers always gloss over. He forced Marquez up in weight and didn’t even make the weight himself.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:20 pm 


SREDMOND

Rentas, for the record it was PART of the contract and it was rewritten to allow Mayweather to come in at 146 and pay a fee to Marquez… NONE of that other than Floyds skill accounts for why Marquez could NOT win a single round off of Floyd yet he had an S/D with Bradley a VERY controversial M/D loss to Pac and finally turned out Mannys lights at 147…. Face it Mayweather was 10x better than JMM and Marquez NEVER wanted a rematch because he does not like humiliation…

Posted July 10, 2014 4:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Kato, I think Cotto would be too strong this time around, I see little chance of Manny stopping him and I don’t think Pac takes those left hooks to the body too well…But again that fight would NEVER happen, Pac Man cannot fight at 154…

Posted July 10, 2014 4:02 pm 


Rentas

Yeah, sure….but don’t leave out the fact that Floyd fought THE old man at catchweight then had the audacity to come in over the contracted limit. So, as you see, Floyd is not all what some ignorantly believe.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:00 pm 


Rentas

I doubt that very much. That’s the reason manny only fought Cotto if Cotto went down to less than 147, but at 154, that’s a whole other animal to deal with.

Posted July 10, 2014 3:57 pm 


kato3388

At a solid 154 without any weight drain, my head says Cotto but, my heart says Manny would dispatch him the same as he did the last time.

Posted July 10, 2014 3:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Correction (Manny is not much of a KO threat at 147) even Roach finally admitted that as they discussed him going to 140 or pulling Algieri up to 147 for presumed slaughter.

Posted July 10, 2014 3:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Kato, what I saw in the 4th fight is Marquez recover, set himself, time Mannys rush and bury a clean right hand in his face.. HISTORY cannot be denied we have seen Manny hurt or put Marquez down beginning in 2004, and the old man ALWAYS comes back harder… I don’t agree that Floyd “sees something” if he was this SAVANT “Cherry Picker” like you discuss he would “SEE” that Pac has slipped, and is not a real threat to almost any WW fighter and that one of Floyds easiest opponents (Marquez) walloped Pac Man… Reality is Manny has looked MUCH less fearsome so the truth be told the COLD War between Promoters goes ON and the hatred of Arum runs deep…Manny does not look unbeatable not at the upper level, who would you favor at 154 Cotto or Manny?

Posted July 10, 2014 3:21 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Just don’t suck him off too many times before the fight Tard, he will get tired and KO’d in the ring like he has before, we hoped you learned your lesson the first few times…

Posted July 10, 2014 2:59 pm 


Anonymous

Just don’t suck Pacman off too many times before the fight Tard, he will get KO’d in the ring like he has before, we hoped you learned your lesson the first few times…

Posted July 10, 2014 2:56 pm 


Anonymous

breaking news. Tark has found a new G.O.A.T.

Posted July 10, 2014 2:56 pm 


kato3388

Fine, the record books say the Victor Ortiz fight was a KO… but “WE” all know better.

Maytwitter has just as many KO’s as Manny does in their last 10 fights.

Posted July 10, 2014 2:55 pm 


kato3388

@SREDMOND – no one claimed that Maytwitter was selling himself as a KO artist. You were the one who stated below about Manny’s lack of KO -manship. I merely pointed out that Maytwitters KO ratio isn’t all that in his last couple of fights either. I am not gonna split C*** hairs with you but, it’s closely similar.

Maytwitter sees something in Manny that makes him second guess. And Manny has the style and power to do it.

I also dare say that Marquez was ready to be taken out in fight 4. Marquez was retreating more than I’ve ever seen him. Nose was busted, could barely breathe. Yea, he’s a wonderful, tough fighter and might’ve bounced back within a round or two but, he was being stalked and wounded. Fo’ Sho’!

Posted July 10, 2014 2:51 pm 


SREDMOND

This is the part where Tark starts making SWEEPING generalizations about Lomanchenkos performance and creating data about his 3 fight resume which has him with a 66 2/3 win percentage that gives him an untouchable future…Until he loses again

Posted July 10, 2014 2:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Rigondeaux’s accomplishments TRUMP Lomanchenkos at the Pro level by PLENTY… He defeated an Elite fighter and shocked a lot of people, Donaire was fighter of the year 2012, a multi-weight Champ and he had NOT lost in YEARS… Meanwhile Loma could not get by Salido, and Russell was a very talented prospect who had NOWHERE near the level of status that Donaire has…. Get real

Posted July 10, 2014 2:22 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Tark, Floyd is 38 years old in February call me when Rigondeaux and Lomanchenko have had as many FIGHTS as Floyd has had World Championship fights… Besides Lomanchenko is NOT on Rigondeaux or a 21 year old Floyds learning curve professionally he ALREADY lost to Salido who has double digit losses and was getting his bell RUNG by Mikey Garcia, beating Russell was a good win but no one is confusing either of these relative upstarts with Floyd Mayweather Jr who is ALREADY and ATG and still Ring Champ in 2 weight classes… Lets see how Loma and Rigo are looking when they have at least 22 pro fights OH that is 11x the number of fights that Lomanchenko has now… Why are we discussing a guy who is 2-1 in the same post at the ESTABLISHED Great Floyd Mayweather Jr who YOU call the GOAT?

Posted July 10, 2014 2:19 pm 


hahahahahahahahahahaha

You must forget your name at LEAST 4x per day because you are a MORON.

Posted July 10, 2014 2:09 pm 


TARK

Floyd’s technical skills won’t be unmatched for long…

Lomachenko and Rigondeaux converted their amateur skills to the pro ranks in amazingly short periods of time… Given their very small numbers of professional fights compared to Floyd… and their amateur records blow Floyd’s away… not even close.

Given a few years they could be the most technically proficient boxers of all time.

Lara hasn’t done badly… seeing he has HALF the pro fights Canelo has.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:54 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., You’re the bum around here and everyone knows it… You have no knowledge, are racist scum, and a noted hater… You claim to be a big Pacquiao fan which a big laugh… The last thing you want to see is Floyd is a dangerous fight where he’s fighting for his life —

Cotto is as tough as Floyd is willing to go — an ATG who was resoundedly beaten and stopped at a much younger age by a peaking Pacman.

That said, Pac has used more speed and boxing craft in his most recent fights.. He’s better than ever.. He’s not as reckless — and that’s a good thing for boxing purists like me…

Floyd took much harder shots from Mosley than Pac did from Bradley … and Pac didn’t have to grab like a maniac to keep from hitting the deck like Floyd did… That were an amazing “flash clinches” that Floyd threw on Mosley — part of the reason Floyd is as great as he is, because he finessed that situation … and not all ATG’s could have done that.

Now if he’d only grow a pair and fight the best possible opponents out there — instead of cherry-picking his ass off.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Face it Tark, Pac Mans ability to bangup fighters was his trademark and now that he is somewhat gunshy its just not the same entertainment value… He backed off Rios as noted by Bradley, he even mentioned being careful against Bradley because he caught a couple solid shots to the jaw… Marquez changed him as a boxer whereas Floyd is still the same SLICK, offensively efficient, defensively excellent fighter he has always been… Are you going to mention Cotto giving him a bloody nose? it happens in boxing and ONLY a seeing FMJ’s blood makes the news because he avoids beatings better than anyone at this level… Try again BUM

Posted July 10, 2014 1:09 pm 


TARK

I’m frankly unenthusiastic about seeing Pacquiao-Algieri. Pac should win easily — but Algieri is somebody with brains and a winner’s attitude, if not finesse.

I would rather see Pacquiao fight Porter, Brook, Thurman, or other more dangerous welterweights who have a better chance of beating him.

Matching boxers carefully is part of Boxing… The part I hate.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Floyd did NOT sell the public on his ability to KO fighters he is the MOST popular boxer on the planet because his technical skills are unmatched across this span of time… Whereas Manny sold KO’s NOW that he cannot stop anyone his fortunes are going down and his dominance has receded unless you call beating up Rios an indication of how he is in top form???

Posted July 10, 2014 1:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, YOU think that Algieri is “an interesting matchup” for Floyd but you don’t respect Cotto, Canelo, Maidana or Guerrero ALL of whom had wins on the World Class level and were known quantities? You want Algieri who has NOT fought anyone but the limited slugger Provodnikov to come up to 147 pounds and fight Floyd Mayweather… But “Maidana was a Cherry Pick”…… You must forget your name at LEAST 4x per day because you are a MORON. s

Posted July 10, 2014 1:01 pm 


TARK

Sredmond.., “Pac Man KO’s are a thing of the past..”

How about Floyd’s KO’s??? … He has 2 in his last 10 fights.

20%??? … Not exactly bringing the heat lately.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears NOW thinks that Floyd Mayweather would be a GOOD fight for Chris Algieri MEANWHILE he thought Algieri LOST to Provo… And he (Bears) does not want to give Mayweather props for beating NOW MW Champion Miguel Cotto at 154 pounds but Algieri is ” an interesting matchup” see again this betrays a SERIOUS schism in this maniacs thinking…. If Algieri is “interesting” then Maidana is an ATG in comparison… WTF is wrong with you man? NO Austin Trout is NOT interesting he lost 2x in a row he is not in the mix at the upper level anymore its looking more and more like he had a good night against Cotto but could not maintain form subsequent even though he did face 2 tough outs at 154… The first guy that beat him got a CLINIC put on him by Mayweather (Canelo) learn boxing Bear!

Posted July 10, 2014 12:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, first of all Lara is ONLY 5″9 he is NOT that tall Mayweather dusted Undefeated Diego Corrales in what is considered one of his BEST performances when Corrales was 33-0 and was knocking out everyone at 130 pounds, Lederman said that Floyd looked like Willie Pep during that performance, Oscar was 5″10, Mosley was 5″9 so Lara is NOT some special animal as it pertains to his height and range, Mayweather has a pretty long reach for a guy his size “72” inches… You really don’t know a DAMN thing about MOST of what you are droning on about… Stop embarrassing yourself and making it easy for me to slap you in the mouth with a pecker..

Posted July 10, 2014 12:23 pm 


holla

sredmond is

over 43

unmarried

no kids

no girlfriend

24/7 on esb

obsessed with BEARS AND TARK

suspicious suspicious

Posted July 10, 2014 12:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Kato, Mayweather does NOT sell himself as a KO artist that has not been his brand since he began fighting even though he put guys away at 130, 135 and … Whereas Manny Pacquiao sold the public on his ability to end fights early, the publics declining interest in his brand is a byproduct of guys like Mosley, Clottey, Margarito Marquez 2x, Rios, and Bradley 2x all going the distance…”Saying Marquez was about to be taken out” is convenient because Marquez has NEVER been taken out by anyone in a career that spans almost 60 fights and has seen him hit the deck many times.. JMM authored 2 10-8 rounds during that short fight the final one seeing him standing atop the ropes in victory while PacMan was being rolled over and checked for a pulse… Manny of old was more dynamic than the current incarnation sure he can look really good against Rios who has lead in his boots but if you watch Bradley 2 you will see Pac taking several rounds to find Bradley and being countered in a manner that prompted Freddy Roach to say that “Manny looked slower”… Mayweather is indeed a BEAST because he has MANY avenues to victory, and his ability to adjust is unparalled whereas Pac Man really has the same attack as always absent the ability to stop guys… He will still defeat 90% of 140 or 147 pounders but Mayweather is a couple leagues above him at this point.. Floyds skills have now consistently negated guys who are Champs at Jr MW…

Posted July 10, 2014 12:13 pm 


BEARS

postal and algieri make good matchups for some. i dont think pac is the guy. pac has fought plenty of taller dudes. lengthy rangy dudes. fraud however has not. fraud vs williams trout lara maybe even algieri would be an interesting style matchup. fraud just has not faced tall guys who fight with a range

Posted July 10, 2014 11:36 am 


kato3388

@SREDMOND – you’re only looking at it from one perspective bro’. Stopping power. Fact is… Maytwitter has not had a significant stoppage since Hatton. Isn’t that the same amount of fights without a stoppage as Manny has? And please don’t bring up Ortiz as a KO. It’s easy to KO someone when they’re not expecting it and trying to get a hug and a kiss.
Manny brings other intangibles than stopping power. How about heart? Guts? Speed? Reflexes? Odd angles? multiple combinations? Throws a helluva a lot of punches. Is a southpaw.
The Marquez 4 fight was an anomaly. Marquez was getting ready to be taken out and Pacman walked right into that shot. Placed perfectly, he went down. Much the same as when Sergio closed his eyes and flattened Paul Williams. This is boxing and one punch can make someone look like a BEAST. Maytwitter is NOT a BEAST. He’s a precision puncher with GREAT defensive skills. PACMAN is an offensive BEAST will decent defense. I still think Pacman would give Maytwitter fits.
At this point Pac would be the underdog for sure, but I LIKE underdogs.

Posted July 10, 2014 11:34 am 


FLOYD

@kato338…I am TBE fool! All Manny had to do was get off the roids for 21 days and he wouldn’t. So you need to take that up with him. “Mr. scared of needles” but has 20 tattoos..lol Corrales, Hernandez, Castillo, Corley, Gatti, Mitchell, DeLahoya, Hatton, Marquez, “WHO KO’d PAC” Mosley, Cotto, Guerrero, Alvarez, Maidana..I think my record speaks for itself.

Posted July 10, 2014 11:34 am 


BEARS

only dude stalking someone is u and your here directing people to see me. normally that would be flattering by as you have described it only establishes my utter control over your life. direct as many people as you can to my visage son. i further own you. i have know idea how to find you. i clicked a link on here years ago one time an old man posted. beyond that your not sh!t. i have no interest your in hiding. u aint revealing yourself or calling anyone out. especially not me we both know i would torque you by one look at me and one look at u. its no wonder your in hiding people would just laugh at like those if us who seen u

Posted July 10, 2014 11:32 am 


ARIZA

His Ko’s stopped after got off the roids’…

Posted July 10, 2014 11:26 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, Bears AGAIN admitting that you stalk another mans FB Page is seriously WEAK and establishes my utter control of your mind and your obsession with your MASTER… No worries Grasshopper I will always be 150 steps ahead of you this is just the way it is..!

Posted July 10, 2014 11:25 am 


SREDMOND

Kato, I am a Pac Man fan that said his KO’s against fighters in the lower weights are a thing of the past… Truth be told it has been what 7 or 8 fights since he stopped a guy? it has been YEARS…Reality is that at an advanced age Mayweather is beating bigger men than Manny has been fighting…Cotto at 154, Canelo and Maidana are significant wins for a guy who is UP in age… As for Mayweather vs Pacquiao Manny could NOT keep up his end of things beginning with a VERY controversial MD against Marquez, robbed against Bradley and then totally flattened against Marquez which took him outta the game… Truth is Pacquiao is NOT the most dangerous guy at WW or above that Floyd would have faced, Canelo and Maidana BOTH have more proven stopping power in higher weight classes than Pac Man who scored a couple of TKO’s at WW YEARS ago… Again the Manny fight is more a matter of nostalgia at this point, do we REALLY know if Pac Man can get by even the now ancient Juan Manuel Marquez??? let alone Mayweather who he has almost NO shot of stopping…

Posted July 10, 2014 11:23 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, the value of Canelos scalp was 100% and Mayweather took 12 rounds of Marquez EASY when he was younger than the version that smashed Pac Man at 147 pound and boxed him to a standstill at 144 pounds resulting in a huge controversy… You are promoting a fight where Algieri is considered at least 4 rungs BELOW Manny, he has been a CLUB fighter in recent history, his origins are in kickboxing, he gutted out a win that YOU denounced against Provodnikov who himself has proven inconsistent and beatable… SUDDENLY this is a GREAT fight for Manny right Bears? you are SOOOOOO full of it! Again your flip flopping is no surprise

Posted July 10, 2014 11:17 am 


kato3388

Come on guys, lets keep the debate around boxing. Who GAF about anyone of your Facebook pages? Who GAF about bastard children.

Ok, now back to boxing.
Manny deserves credit for his body of work. Manny had been Knocking guys the F$*# out since he took Ledwaba’s belt. He ‘s no flash in the pan and some Johnny-come-lately. He’s a legitimate threat to Maytwitters legacy and I do believe in my heart that Maytwitter put all these road blocks to prevent the fight. “Oh I want everyone of a level playing field”. “Oh, I am only willing to give him $40 million.” “Oh, I am not ever working with Bob Arum.” Just get in the damn ring and fight. There’s always some reason he won’t fight this one or that one.

See the scrutiny will always and forever go against Maytwitter. And this is why he will never get a fair shake and have this double standard…. the reason is…. wait for it…. HE CLAIMS TO BE THE BEST EVER. Even better than the other ATG’s. Now that puts a bullseye on yourself big time. People will want you to prove it. And when you duck and dodge this one, and that one… people will call you out on it.

Instead of Margarito, he took a cake walk with Baldomir.
Instead of Paul Williams, he took on another low risk fight.
Instead of Pacman, he took on Ortiz, Guerrero.
So how can u call urself TBE and not take on the best in the division?

Pacman is a humble dude, or so he seems… But this Algieri fight is NONSENSE. No one will pay to see that. Algieri did his thing and after a second watch I saw how some of the close rounds went to him. But he surely didn’t look like a winner to me. And I’m not just talking that badly swollen eye. Provo walked through most of his shots without even a wimper, so what do you think Manny would do to him. Manny is fast and throws a tremendous amount of combinations. Algieri may have decent boxing skills and the ability to move around the ring but if Manny doesn’t respect his power how will he keep Manny off of him?

Posted July 10, 2014 11:02 am 


BEARS

i only went to your page once when it all broke out years ago. the ild timer said you changed your settings immediately. i have no interest in your page or your hiding. your the pu$$y who has to hide not me.

u know i would bash your ugly little piece a sh!t a$$ into mince meat.

but thats cuz i aint hiding

poor little black girls in the project getting played by sredmond. who will care for them? who will be a champion if their rights? of their treatment?

BEARS will stand up forthe poor little ghetto black girls and all their fatherless children born of players like stedmond.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Posted July 10, 2014 10:59 am 


BEARS

your boy holyfields been married 100 times and has 100 kids with 100 different woman. is best know for his “worst interview in boxing” seriously type worst interview in boxing into youtube

im not telling you anything about my life and i never have. i will leave u to fabricate whateva. its all cool with me. bastard kids are what surrounds you in the project. statistically speaking odds are you are a bastard kid lackin a father figure. ever seen the statistics?

i have blonde hair and blue eyes. check the stats then tell me if u think there are any fatherless children in my family tree sucka. or i can help u by saying no there are no fatherless people in my family in any generation.

we have morals. but make up whatever scenario in your headthat helps u deal with your fatherless gutter ghetto high rise. where fatherless-ness is the norm. no wonder u keep making up weird sh!t about bastard children and mountain outpost your a total flake

joe herron had u pegged outta the gate son

Posted July 10, 2014 10:52 am 


te tumbo

“. . . for you to say Pacquiao is irrelevant to boxing is way erroneous”. HIBDEEBIBDEE, i’m open to being enlightened. please proceed to explain why Algieri v. Pacquiao* is such an important and relevant matchup for Boxing?

Posted July 10, 2014 10:51 am 


BEARS

i did not BRAND you NUTS joseph herron did. but who am i to disagree?

keep hiding. your ashamed

bahahahahahahah

Posted July 10, 2014 10:41 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, AGAIN you are the man who ADMITS that he fathered a bastard child… Or do you deny that you never married the STUPID woman who squatted out your kid??

Posted July 10, 2014 10:40 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, my Facebook page is WIDE open and how would you know about “settings” unless you KEEP trying to stare at my face and have bizarre Man Love for me???? AGAIN you betray your strange homo erotic tendencies by OPENLY admitting that you are stalking another posters FB page… Pretty sad Bears :(

Posted July 10, 2014 10:39 am 


BEARS

you “play” woman? not only is that immoral but they must be ugly woman lookin at you. but again stay in hiding it makes a louder statement. you think “playing” woman is ok cause your dad “played” your mom huh? poor fatherless sredmond in the project high rise

Posted July 10, 2014 10:39 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, as far as me calling Mayweather “the Best” that’s supported by boxing as an institution and Ring which is the most credible boxing entity around… Mayweather is the RING Champion in 2 weight classes, Manny is terrific but he is hanging on to that WBO strap and that’s about it… Trying to build his recent cred off of Bradley is a tired story, we all know he beat Bradley first go around…. Besides Manny has not faced a dangerous fighter since Marquez who was one minute off 40 when he flat blasted him… Bradley despite being a high quality fighter cannot punch, Algieri sure as hell cannot punch nor is World Class, and Rios was coming off a loss and coming up to 147 for the first time.. Meanwhile Mayweather is fighting bigger fighters like Canelo, and Maidana who are in their prime and each sporting over 30 stoppages a piece… I will TEAR your heart out if you try to debate with me.. You cannot win or outthink me from the confines of a trailer while drawing your water from a well in front of the propane tank Hill Billy…!!!

Posted July 10, 2014 10:38 am 


BEARS

your facebook did not make you laugh. quite the opposite. LOL

you ran around east crying and yelling for weeks about being “hacked” cause you left your email on the thread every time u posted and were easily found on social sites. embarrassed u quickly changed settings and have been in hiding ever since. hardly a laughing a matter matter for a little ugly phuk like yourself.

u can stay in hiding and talk from there. thats what b!tches do son

Posted July 10, 2014 10:35 am 


hibdeebibdee

Some guy who posts regularly on thesweetscience.com and who calls himself “Radam G,” and who appears to be some type of boxing insider claims he has received information that Algieri is “damaged goods” after his fight with Provodnikov. Radam claims Algieri suffered a number of injuries–not just to his right eye–that were serious enough to affect his boxing career. You can read his post under an article written by Michael Woods yesterday.

Posted July 10, 2014 10:33 am 


hahahaha

you mean ex BOYFRIENDS SRED………..

Posted July 10, 2014 10:30 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, you seem VERY angry!! C’mon man you guys sweating my Facebook Page only makes me laugh! I have turned a bunch of guys into common stalkers like the Ex GF’s I have dumped or played… Get serious you are cleary a guy who is in poor health, living on bad food and cheap beer… You are NOT in shape to tangle with me or any other man who his in good shape… Your best bet is to finish your low level education, get a decent paying job and then fight to get visitation rights for your daughter who the courts I am sure only allow you to see under strict supervision… I did NOT make the videos which have made you a LAUGHING stock on ESB YOU did… Again trying to enlist other men to come to your defense or support your off the wall positions is a sign of WEAKNESS… AGAIN you have reversed your position and I have exposed it! One minute Algieri is powder puff who did NOT deserve the win he got against Provo, the next he deserves to fight Manny Pacquiao and is a terrific opponent HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted July 10, 2014 10:26 am 


hahahaha

BEARS

you couldnt even knock a bunny out!!!! no muscles………just fat!!!!!

Posted July 10, 2014 10:24 am 


BEARS

it does not matter what i like and dislike or prefer and not prefer as i was not talking about that.

the only one who has been gut busted laughed a on here is you when u were running around east side claiming to have been and i quote “hacked” on your facebook. LOL

EVERYONE SAW YOUR UGLY ASS you quickly went into hiding. im not hiding and im not hidin the fact i can knock your teeth out. body slam your a$$. never have

i aint an ugly phuk like yourself. no reason for me to hide. in fact i should do more videos since it has been years. i need to update the ones i did do.

but your reaction to getting found out was priceless. lionking was talking about it the other day too! who was that old guy that exposed you and you yelling HACK!?

your an ugly little hack. if u ever met me you would need a lot of your fellow racist blacks with ya to keep you safe.

do your trash talking from youtube if u wanna trash talk u little pu$$y a$$ b!tch. i know your lil b!tch a$$ cant fight. we both know it. i will knock your denture teeth out son

bahahahahah

Posted July 10, 2014 10:19 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, you AS USUAL are a total flip flopper 1) you did NOT even think that Algieri won the fight against Provodnikov and totally RAKED Chris over the coals 2.) You hate guys that cannot punch Algieri has only 8 KO’s against low level opposition last guy he stopped had double digit losses 3.) You don’t like fighters moving up in weight MEANWHILE Arum is proposing to feed this kid to Pacquiao at 147 a weight he NEVER fought at against an ATG fighter like Manny… Suddenly you think these conditions make for a good fight? Man you are the MOST inconsistent poster on this board and your stances align against whatever person you want to beef with… Seriously you embarrass yourself and I see that folks have gazed upon your bloated and obviously diseased face online… Sad Stuff Bear!

Posted July 10, 2014 9:55 am 


BEARS

the reality is fraud has never faced the best. theres no reason to call him the best. he has dodged the best welters like pac and bradley for years while they fought eachother.

fraud has not faced the caliber opposition pac has in morales bradley and barrera. his two best scalps he had huge advantages over destroying the scalp value in canelo and jmm.

whos the best welter fraud faced i mean really?? lol. lightweight jmm cs 154 pound fraud? not even a welterweight fight. lol

Posted July 10, 2014 9:48 am 


BEARS

algieri is undefeated and arum was talking the winner facing pacman. i think the bout is no worse than fraud and the plethora of foregone conclusion bouts he has had like baldomir, guerrero, ortiz, even maidana. all maidana did to warrant the fight was beat broner algieri beating provo is on par with that if u ask me.

i just think stylistically it will be bad for algieri but ya never know. in terms of bs matchups where waaaay better fights couldve been made instead. frauds the king a that hence the name fraud

Posted July 10, 2014 9:44 am 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos biggest strength used to be his ability to stop guys in their tracks… That asset is LONG gone and is probably one of the main reasons for his declining popularity.. Bears saying “No one can outbox Manny” HaHaHa ask Marquez and Morales about that and this was when Pac was prime.. The reality is that NO ONE can outbox Floyd Mayweather, if you stand in the center of the ring trying to out feint, out think or out maneuver FMJ you lose and its as simple as that till he gets to old to execute… We have 46 wins barely any rounds lost to backup that assertion.. One of the reasons I think that Arum wants to pull Algieri up to 147 to fight Manny is to give Pac a real shot and laying out a guy with ONLY 8 stoppages on the books and no frame of reference for facing a fighter like Manny who has fought at the Elite level for years… Pac Man needs to stop SOMEBODY to get the publics attention, he is NOT Mayweather who sells flawless boxing and has done so since he went to WW as opposed to serious ring violence that Manny no longer can produce absent contributing his own face to the canvas when Marquez reminded him what a KO looks like..

Posted July 10, 2014 9:40 am 


SREDMOND

Pacquiao beat Bradley the first time, the historic ineptitude of the judges positioned us for an unnecessary rematch where Pac Man did NOT improve on his performance against Bradley and the public further stepped away from the bout… Roach said “Manny looked slower” and Pac discussed being leery of Bradley catching him wrong… Again I respect Manny he is an ATG without a doubt, he has provided some terrific contests and awesome wins but his best is behind him… The man cannot be giving long odds in his favor against the Great but OLD as HELL Marquez who forever changed Manny as a fighter the man his gun shy even against powerless fighters like Bradley…If Floyd faces Manny it will be said that the OLDER FMJ was facing an OLD version of Manny…

Posted July 10, 2014 9:28 am 


SREDMOND

Trying to laud Chris Algieri as a possible premium scalp for Manny Pacquiao only shames Pacquiao and illustrates how far he has fallen.. In 2010 or 2011 fighters like Brandon Rios straight off a loss and Algieri would have been completely dismissed…NOW we have a pocket of so called fans holding these up as GREAT wins for the Pac Man… Lets face it Algieri showed a lot of guts and its nice to see the kid get a good payday, but he belongs in the ring with Pacquiao a little bit more than I do… Prior to getting a close win over Provodnikov he was fighting in Clubs in Huntington NY and has almost no World Class experience YET guys wanna bill this as a “serious challenge” and possible feather in Mannys cap? Clearly this is a fighter who is NOW benefiting from diminished expectations… SMH

Posted July 10, 2014 9:23 am 


Daryll

BOYCOTT BOB ARUM

Posted July 10, 2014 9:19 am 


BEARS

youtube

Posted July 10, 2014 9:16 am 


BEARS

im pretty open about my youtube this is nothing new. doesnanyone know a better place to watch boxing tape than houtube and vimeo?

Posted July 10, 2014 9:15 am 


Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio

Anonymous, is that really him (bears)? lol

Posted July 10, 2014 9:06 am 


Martin “El Bruchador” Honorio

I dont want to deny Algeirie his biggest payday, but this is bull’s”””t. Algeri would just potshot Pacman and would not try to win, and why would he? He already got money in the bank, plus he know he doesnt have a chance against the Pac if he tries to rumble.

Posted July 10, 2014 8:59 am 


Anonymous

bears8881 is BEARS? White, fat, and his YouTube vids all seemed to be taken in the basement. I hate to stereotype, but… LMFAO.

Posted July 10, 2014 8:08 am 


Anonymous

BEARS

I always pictured you as a sixteen year old, acne faced, skinny, red headed kid with specs, but seeing you on YouTube I didn’t think that the reasonable, somewhat slow witted, balding, fat, wannabe gangster talking back at me was you BEARS. Really? Really?
YouTube “bears8881″

Posted July 10, 2014 7:58 am 


Anonymous

Who’s the WBO Mandatory challenger to Pac? That’s the guy who he should be facing in November.

Posted July 10, 2014 7:54 am 


EZ E

Hibdee I see YOUR point but can’t agree. Algieri kayo’d “WHO”? EVERYBODY has ‘some’ sort of power, even Malignaggi. But when we’re talking about “power” as in boxing, Algieri doesn’t have much at all, thus by boxing’s standards he’s considered a good boxer with very little/no power much like Paulie, if you get MY point, even if you don’t agree. Comparing Floyd’s lack of KO’s in his last 11 fights is a bit out of line because Algieri probably WOULDN’T have kayo’d ANY of them. If Floyd would’ve faced the opposition Algieri faced he WOULD’VE kayo’s almost ALL of them, there certainly is a difference, a big one. But anyway, your point is well taken nonetheless. Peace Hibdee.

Posted July 10, 2014 7:48 am 


mack

It is always nice to cash in, and this will be a nice windfall for Algieri, but where is the demand for this matchup? There are so many good names and matchups out there for Pacquiao, but does anyone, other than Arum and Algieri, want to see this fight?

Posted July 10, 2014 7:23 am 


Double Standards

Auzbox this no.3 p4p you keep repeatedly coming back to is embarrassing for you. It is all you have to grasp and fall back on. Lets say he outboxed Bradley for arguments sake, he has failed to outbox Marquez 4 times and for a ferocious puncher like Pacquiao is proclaimed to be be no knockouts in 5 years is not great. I mention this as Mayweather consistently has his knockout ratio called into question. Double Standards.

Posted July 10, 2014 7:22 am 


Auzbox

If PAC defeats chris he has beaten 2 undefeated champions in two consecutive bouts. Something floyd has never done :)

Posted July 10, 2014 6:52 am 


Auzbox

Who says fighters need to KO everyone, manny outboxed a top 3 p4p. Floyd the so called king couldn’t outbox maidana unanimously and even if he does this time it took him two gos :)

Posted July 10, 2014 6:13 am 


Anonymous

BEARS is unmasked on YouTube by SREDMOND
He only has 1 subscriber. His moms!
Go to youtube search for “bears8881″.

Posted July 10, 2014 5:39 am 


Anonymous

Before anyone throws in that it is still a better ratio than Mayweather’s dont bother because no one claims that Mayweather is a a brutal offensive weapon that Pacquiao is supposed to be be. Defensive masters and counterpunchers get points wins offensive masters – as Pacquiao is claimed to be – get knockouts. No Pacquiao knockouts in 5 years…

Posted July 10, 2014 5:36 am 


Anonymous

Pacquiao has a 27% KO ratio in his last 11 fights, 2 of which he lost, 1 by brutal KO. Devastating…

Posted July 10, 2014 5:27 am 


Mbuyiseli

Auzbox talking outta of his butt chicks again. Moron!!! Bears do you live in North Korea with no rights whatsoever? Where have you been in the last couple of years? Pacquaio fans’ stupidity is a religion, equivalent to the 7 virgins clowns.

Posted July 10, 2014 5:09 am 


Anonymous

bears

youre fat man

Posted July 10, 2014 5:02 am 


BEARS

the only way anyone can beat pacman is to lay him out. nobody is gonna outwork or outbox him including fraud. thats why fraud would not face him. fraud is huge on gap control and keeping an opponent right in front of him where he can see whats coming and attack or counter. pac is the perfect style to expose fraud and pull fraud out of the comfort zone. by sheer movement and volume. just pacmans one of a kind style. pacman like vitaly is one of the most unique fighters i have ever seen. his style is more unique than frauds. and it is an offensive style. there will never be another one of either of these guys.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:59 am 


BEARS

algieri will shell up when he quickly realizes there is no controlling the gap and the gaps gonna remain tight countless combos and punches will be coming from a target thats moving all over the place while throwing. pax style is out of this world. i would put the odds beyond 6:1 myself. i would put them at buster douglas odds. what where those?

and thats just based on style. algieri has great matchups like postal at the weight but pacman is not one of those great stylistic matchups.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:55 am 


BEARS

Well said, but pac closes that gap and moves all around while throwing the punches. pacmans a nightmare style for algieri. algieiri will never keep a gap. algieri has not faced anything to even remotely prepare himself for pacman. he faced a brutalizer. a damn good one. algieri can not fight his game on pax style. he is gonna drown. pac is gonna keep that gap tight and bounce all over the place throwing punches from angles algieri did not know existed. pac will literally chop the tree down in a david vs goliath match

Posted July 10, 2014 4:51 am 


TARK

@ Bears.., “Whoa dude. Algieri will not beat the great pacman. There is no “if” ”

Pacquiao should be about an 6:1 favorite if the odds are right.. Would you spin the barrel of a six-shooter and point it at your head??? … I know you wouldn’t.

People are always amazed by upsets in Boxing.. I don’t know why.. Pacquiao will most likely win by a wide UD.. He should outbox this green kid — but this is Boxing..

It’s not, “welcome to the big leagues Algieri” because that was his LAST fight with Provodnikov.. Algieri came out of the first round of that fight in the worst possible shape – but he wasn’t the least bit disturbed by that busted up eye.. He still fought his ass off for the 12.

He has the character of a winner. I don’t believe he going to beat Pac—but he COULD beat him.. This dude Algieri is smart.. He always expects to win at anything — no matter what.. My hunch is, he’ll do better than most people expect.

Posted July 10, 2014 4:45 am 


JOY DIVISION

you should listen to joy division

Posted July 10, 2014 4:36 am 


JOY DIVISION

bears is sure

Posted July 10, 2014 4:32 am 


Ray Ray

Bears-u sure ur not Canelo?

Posted July 10, 2014 4:31 am 


BEARS (more raider in canelo than they ever had in oakland)

this fight deserves to sell. its two of the best in boxing right now and the two best around 154. lara very well could win this if canelo comes out like he did against trout. they have both getting better and better each time out in ways excluding the fraud aberration for canelo

i do not agree with some peoples analysis here. boxing might not win this for canelo. canelo must be prepared to not be the better boxer. im not saying canelo is not the better boxer but if it is found out in the ring to be almost a stalemate, i think canelo should be willing to get ugly. to make it a brawl. to close that gap and do his version of the angulo. were gonna find out a lot about canelo saturday and his diversity in style and willingness. what is he willing to do. i think he can do a lot of things. i do not think there is anything else lara will ever show. i think we know all there is to know and have for the most part seen all there is to see on lara. he likes a sizeable gap from which to box real rangy from. he is a runner style

its always awesome when the right brawler meets that style like angulo vs lara and maidana vs fraud and broner although broner runs not even half as well as fraud

Posted July 10, 2014 4:23 am 


Ray Ray

Is this a joke? Its july isnt it? Not April. How they going 2 sell this?

Posted July 10, 2014 4:07 am 


Boxtradamus

Well said Auzbox your are wise like me. That’s right you guessed it …. The greatest fight prophet in the world!!!

Posted July 10, 2014 3:46 am 


Auzbox

Floyd in showtimes most expensive card in history reported around the 900k mark. Manny the guy no one pays to see between 800 and 900k. Gee no one pays to see manny with a no name undercard yet broner, khan, collazo are on floyd v maidana undercard and can’t break the mill LMAO

Posted July 10, 2014 3:41 am 


Boxtradamus

You are all in awe at my great stupidity. Hahaha!!

Posted July 10, 2014 3:32 am 


BEARS (more raider in canelo than they ever had in oakland)

whoa dude. algieri will not beat the great pacman. there is no “if”

Posted July 10, 2014 3:06 am 


Auzbox

Poor pactard: yeh manny is done and no one pays to see him yet showtimes record breaking outlay in a card was broken in his last fight and didn’t break 900k LMAO manny all on his own got 850k. Floyd ain’t to far ahead and alot of reports manny did better numbers last time out. When was the last time floyd won unanimously. Geeeee been a while

Posted July 10, 2014 3:02 am 


Auzbox

Idiots Bradley ran out of gas yeh so did maidana after 6 that’s why floyd came back. Manny beat cotto when he was a 147 fighter 2 years before mayweather so comparing it to 154 is pointless cotto had never been there before. Bradly start of April was 3 p4p I still can’t find maidana in the top 25

Posted July 10, 2014 3:00 am 


TARK

Algieri is an undefeated guy who beat Provodnikov with one eye pasted shut.. “I was fukking blind in the 12th.”

You’ve got to give it to him for courage and resourcefulness. He’ll do well.

Obviously if he beats Pacquiao he gets Floyd next.. I mean, between Lara… Porter… and Algieri… who’s Floyd going to fight?

Posted July 10, 2014 2:52 am 


BEARS (more raider in canelo than they ever had in oakland)

excuses? mayweather came out with money, testing, promoters. excuse after excuse. excuse met, then a new excuse comes out.

next it will be pacman can not drink water for 48 hours up to the fight and he can only fight with one hand and he must donate blood a half hour before the fight. lol.

dumb phuk head

Posted July 10, 2014 2:20 am 


poor pacturds

Bears Manny had won the first time no secret he would win again, Bradley cannot punch and he gave Manny the fight after the 4th he ran out of gas, Rios was a sht can punching bag and Marquez we all know what happened there. Manny is done. Manny is irrelevant and no one pays to see him except for his loyal nutt huggers like yourself he fights in unheard parts of China why instead of Vegas? And Algieri is another bum for Pac. Arum is hoping he can keep Manny around long enough keep matching him up with bums to sway Floyd into a cash out fight but its not happing he had his chance in 09 but he was afraid of needles poor pacturds. Where is hecdog the other ass clwn Manny homo Azzbox, Bears, Chicago guy Mannys bioottches. lol

Posted July 10, 2014 2:16 am 


BEARS (Ol’ boxing. no round limits fought til a winner. fraud and lara would hate it)

wooping bradley was awesome for pacman and boosted his stock bigtime in the boxgame. fraud has ran from both bradley and pac.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:44 am 


BEARS (Ol’ boxing. no round limits fought til a winner. fraud and lara would hate it)

i could not care less about pacmans financial plight.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:43 am 


BEARS (Ol’ boxing. no round limits fought til a winner. fraud and lara would hate it)

yes after four fights, ariza, and some acne on the back he stopped pacman. then pacman rose up and smoked bradley who smoked jmm. let me know when fraud may faces bradley or pac both of which would make fraud look bad and tire him out.

if a dude gets dropped or a dude gets stopped it makes him no good than you can pretty much wipe most all of frauds credit for beating his opponents off. what undefeated fighters did he face outside of the boiled down canelo?

your own logic pretty much destroys any credit fraud has. that zero would be impressive if it entailed winky wright, tszyu, paul williams, bradley, pacman, serg martinez, 3g, lara, trout, and fought the guys at the real weight of 154. frauds never really even faced a guy taller or south paw. LOL

when a cherry named maidana beat you, castillo beat you, you had huge advantages on jmm and canelo. and you dodged most all the challenges in your career. naw, you zero does not impress me. but thats me, i think the dudes a fraud. a circus. who’s bouts of running or more likened to fencing than fighting and his shows to that of a circus or wwf ppv. not a fight

Posted July 10, 2014 1:42 am 


teflon

algieri is garbage this fight is no sell. Who does Arum have worth anything? Really he needs to get with Golden boy they have all the big names Manny needs a big fight to rejuvenate his career, a big win over a formidable fighter nothing less and top rank dont have sht. Ruslan himself was garbage. Rios, Marquez, Bradley Mannys last 3 bouts were trash and his ticket sales proved it.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:42 am 


enough already

BEARS Manny been dropped 5 times, enough said and by Marquez a bum. No comparisons Floyd beat Oscar and Cotto at 154 not 147 not to mention Canelo, You are a pac nutt hugger. Arum ensures Manny will end up broke with nothing and biootches like you will cry for his place and a chance a Floyd but none is coming Floyd cannot save Mannys career..

Posted July 10, 2014 1:34 am 


BEARS (Ol’ boxing. no round limits fought til a winner. fraud and lara would hate it)

plus people wanna make a case that fraud is better than pac based on fraud being undefeated when frauds resume is weaker than pacmans and that is why fraud was not even fighter of the decade. when fraud has faced the two best welters (who have fought eachother) pac and bradley, let me know how he performs. til then pac is the best welter while fraud faces guys like baldomir, ortiz, guerrero, and maidana. you know, foregone conclusions. bad sparring matches. until the right cherry had the right style to pluck off imitation fraud (broner), and pluck off the fraud himself (fraud may).

maidana won that fight son. he was outlanded like every round. thats boxing though. give it to fraud when he is outlanded and out ring generaled all night, then give it to algieri the next night. there is no consistency in judging or officiating. it is garbage

Posted July 10, 2014 1:26 am 


Auzbox

Boxtra who were the 11 champs? Did they hold belts or were past champs?

Posted July 10, 2014 1:25 am 


Auzbox

Sredmond is not very smart. I said other than Marquez PAC dominates them better. You have one where as PAC has 4. To bad sredmond. Ill say again its 2014 and and PAC beating top p4p ranked guys and those rankings are by people far more knowledgable than yourself. Boxing isn’t judged by KO s and if it was mayweather wouldn’t be king, not even close

Posted July 10, 2014 1:25 am 


BEARS (Ol’ boxing. no round limits fought til a winner. fraud and lara would hate it)

boxtradamus- “no losses while facing champs…..”

are you talking up turds like baldomir and ortiz and guerrero?

it was sweet watching maidana woop that a$$ man. to think a cherry came out and wooped that a$$.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:19 am 


BEARS (Ol’ boxing. no round limits fought til a winner. fraud and lara would hate it)

pacman faced ATG’s morales and barrera. bada$$ boxers. fraud has not faced anyone on that boxing level. i would say fraud has not faced a boxer on bradley’s level. his best opponets i think were jmm and canelo both fraud had to have HUGE/MASSIVE advantages on them to fight them. we do not even know what weight fraud fought at vs jmm. since he did not weigh i bet 154 or above.

fraud went on to DISTINGUISH himself from pacman saying “he would never do a catcheweight, he wants his opponents at their best weight so they are the best they can be” the strait liar boiled down canelo 152 and to think frauds camp INITIALLY asked for a bout in the 140s!!! canelo can not even make 154! elerbe went off about how it would trash canelo essentially ruin the fight. which it did. I do not give fraud credit. dude was so scared of the challenge the 23 year old kid posed he boiled the stamina out of him.

fraud has ruined the bouts with the two best boxers he faced the greats were past it, post retired, or shoulda been retired like oscar and mosely.

fraud has not faced boxers the caliber of morales, barrera, and bradley. i think bradley would make fraud look bad

Posted July 10, 2014 1:17 am 


Boxtradamus

NO LOSSES while facing 11 CHAMPS in your last 13 Fights is something to write home about though.

Posted July 10, 2014 1:15 am 


hibdeebibdee

“What I’m pointing out about you post is that he DOSEN’T have power. You comparison to his KO ratio over Floyd and other fighters seem a bit far fetched. For instance, if he was facing the comp or level of opposition Floyd faced he would probably have practically ZERO kayos”

EZ E, apparently Algieri does have some power as he’s KO’d eight of his opponents. Whether they’re top notch or not, he stopped them so he does have some kind of power. Certainly I realize he has not faced the comp or level of opposition that Floyd has faced but I don’t think it’s fair to say he’d “probably have practically ZERO kayos.” I mean, we won’t know until he gets in the ring with them. Even so, as I said before, Floyd’s KO ratio over his last 11 fights is only about 18%. That’s nothing to write home about.

Posted July 10, 2014 12:54 am 


hibdeebibdee

te tumbo said, “Btw, i notice you left out Guerrero? what’s the obstacle there? you also neglect to make a case as to why Algieri is the worthiest opponent for Pacquiao*? quite frankly, it’s all of these excuses that reinforce my personal opinion that Pacquiao* IS irrelevant to Boxing or any meaningful matchup, which no longer includes Mayweather or Marquez.”

Read my post again te tumbo, I also mentioned Guerrero. Additionally, I never claimed Algieri is the worthiest opponent for Pacquiao–don’t know where you got that from. Also, Pac is not my fighter. I’m not making excuses for him. But for you to say Pacquiao is irrelevant to boxing is way erroneous.

Posted July 10, 2014 12:49 am 


BEARS

vitaly stoppin dudes at 42. wlads lookin as peak as ever at 38. dude will be rocking cats into his 40s.

i like sredmond throws out ages like everybody ages the same. like 37 or 38 makes you too old.

theres no expiration date on a mo fugga you stupid a$$

im tired of hearing sredmond repeat the same sh!t for years and getting shot down by hundreds and coming back the next day sayin the same dumb sh!t that done got downthe day earlier. the dudes a bot thats it. he will be here sayin the same sh!t this time next year.

i never seen worse double standards than sredmond. some dude schooled him on his fraud double standards last week regarding all the multi loss opponents of frauds. using sredmonds own logic trashed frauds opponents. now sredmond is back repeating himself like a lesson did not occur or like he did not get shut the phuk down.

what a retard

Posted July 10, 2014 12:48 am 


BEARS

auzbox is right. pac did a better job every single common opponent but jmm. it took jmm 4 fight,ariza, and some back acne (bacne) to stop pacman. when pacman smoked bradley twice after bradley smoked jmm. it was NUF SAID SON.

all kinds a pac haters took bradley to win fight2 here. SUCKA’s

Posted July 10, 2014 12:41 am 


Tachyon

Go get then sredmond say it aint so!!

Posted July 10, 2014 12:39 am 


SREDMOND

How did Manny beat Marquez “better” than Mayweather? He got creamed and has dedicated 4 bouts while seeking a 5th… Mayweather has pretty much dominated every fighter he faced absent Castillo and Maidana (they were at least competitive) neither winning a card… Manny has 4 VERY legit losses, 2 draws, he has been stopped 3x last time by a 39 year old fighter who has not beat the other 147 pounders he faced… Mayweather is Ring Champ in two weight classes while PAC grabbed that WBO belt from Bradley who he already beat..

Posted July 10, 2014 12:34 am 


Auzbox

Who won haha floyd made 105 mill in the maidana and canelo fight don’t go making up numbers you fool and the larger cut would of been the canelo fight. Yeh he beat Marquez when he came up from 135. That’s the only fighter may beat better the rest PAC killed 100 times better. BOOM

Posted July 10, 2014 12:07 am 


A. Low

im just saying floyd and manny are both truly great fighters in an era thats about to end. one is a master of defence and the other master of offence. Both of their next fights are smart and will be entertaining. by the way algeri is not a bum and can trouble plenty of fighters. he is a young Martinez. stop hating on either none of yall could beat them so just enjoy the spport things will change once these two fighters are gone.

Posted July 9, 2014 11:51 pm 


Harry Box

Just might be a good fight. Algieri is in shape and can box very well.

Posted July 9, 2014 11:50 pm 


Who won?

Manny was KTFO by a 40 year old Mexican who is flat footed by the way lol… The same guy Floyd walked all over so who won? Manny walked away from 40 million over blood testing Floyd goes on to make 300 million so who won? Floyd makes 70 million fighting Miadana so who won? Manny is in debt up to his eye balls so who won???

Posted July 9, 2014 11:45 pm 


TangInaMoPacquiao

We Filipinos are sick and tired of all of these bullcrap match ups against our idiotic hero Manny dePutatite Pacquiao. Putang ina mo Manny!!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 11:27 pm 


Titopa

The Prince – BRAVO!!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 11:12 pm 


EZ E

@Hibdee You said, “For instance, in his last 11 fights, Mayweather has only about a 18% KO ratio–about the same as Paulie Malignaggi over the course of his career.
Regardless, Chris has power..”

What I’m pointing out about you post is that he DOSEN’T have power. You comparison to his KO ratio over Floyd and other fighters seem a bit far fetched. For instance, if he was facing the comp or level of opposition Floyd faced he would probably have practically ZERO kayos, wouldn’t you think? I believe you’re knowledgeable enough to know that it’s NOT about HOW MANY kayos he has BUT more about WHO he’s kayo’d, right? About Maidana, well, I guess it was meant for some one else because I never mentioned him. But I’ll still stick to my guns and say that he has barely a bit more “power” than Paulie, which in turn means that neither HE nor Paulie have power.

But possibly it’s all about a matters of opinions. Maybe according to YOUR standards he’s convinced you that he has ‘power’, which is okay. And according to MINE, he doesn’t, which is cool too. Peace!

Posted July 9, 2014 11:00 pm 


Auzbox

Alexander bashed maidana like floyd could not and didn’t Bradley stop alexander? Funny circle. You can say as many times as you like but maidana is khan leftovers no matter how you cut it. Khan even dropped him.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:50 pm 


Auzbox

Rios had beaten every fighter he had faced and stopped the guy that gave him his only loss before manny beat him every round. May fought Ortiz a huge bum that now has what 5 losses by stoppage. Once again it’s 2014 and PAC is done you all say but he beat p4p 3 an undefeated world champ. NOT BAD FOR BEING DONE

Posted July 9, 2014 10:48 pm 


Auzbox

I was harsh Adrian. I like the khan v mayweather fight his speed causes may trouble. Prince not every guy that is a PAC liker agrees on everything that another says. I hate this fight its not worthy of a ppv. But he is an undeafeated champion but that’s the only positive thing about it. Also you have to start from somewhere and if prov won he would of got the fight and people would of picked prov to stop pac. Prov lost and now chris gets his chance

Posted July 9, 2014 10:44 pm 


BoxingFan4Life

@ The Prince that is so true!! @ Azubox Guerrero was an inetrm champ, alverez was the wbc jr middleweight champ & Maidana was the wba champ. Did Rios come into the pac fight a champ or former champ? You must be a Pactard!

Posted July 9, 2014 10:43 pm 


Adrian

Auzbox , I agree that Algieri deserve this fight with paqiao but saying khan has done nothing is pure none sense stop it ! Khan beat Barrera,Maidana , malinagi , Judah Paterson (was robbed ) and he just dominated collazo like no one did before , I know he had his set backs but trust me mayweathers fans are the ones who are totally against mayweAther fighting khan not that khan is the best out there but because of his style he will look bad against him and they don’t like to see that , khan fight is to dangerous for mayweather and that’s why no matter how much khan will achive I am 100% sure mayweather will never fight him !

Posted July 9, 2014 10:35 pm 


The Prince

SMH… Thank you majority of ESB regulars for calling this possible fight out for what it is. It’s not about liking Mayweather or hating Pacquiao. It’s about calling out a clear double standard when one sees it. If this article said: “Mayweather Promotions makes offer to Algieri to face Money Mayweather in September”, the same people defending Pacquiao now, would be calling for a boycott. Follow up articles by the likes of Reni would come out with pure venom against Floyd for cherrypicking another easy win. The fact is, Floyd is facing the same guy that supposedly gave him his most toughest fight in years in Maidana. Funny how the same names we all know are trying to downplay that fight as cherrypicking, but at the same time trying to excuse Pacquiao. In fact, when Algieri upset Provo, the same names were leaving all kinds of post dissing the guy. Now suddenly he’s a dangerous threat for Pacquiao? Again… SMH…

Posted July 9, 2014 10:29 pm 


Auzbox

Did guerro have a title he took into the fight? Rios is a 2 time world champ while we are there as I think was the ghost.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:04 pm 


1200 Techs

This fight is BULLSPIT!!!! I’ll watch it…on regular HBO….

Posted July 9, 2014 10:03 pm 


Auzbox

Bradley which is April this year undefeated champion, you can’t get better than beating an undefeated champion. Especially when they are ranked top 3 p4p best on the planet by ring which is where all the greats are at. Where was maidana p4p?

Posted July 9, 2014 10:03 pm 


Auzbox

Who cares if they are champs. PAC against chris if it comes off is 2 undefeated champs in a row, that was my point

Posted July 9, 2014 10:00 pm 


BoxingFan4Life

@Auzbox, my comment is directed at everyone who was posted a comment after Algieri won, stating that Floyd would pick him for an easy win. Seeing as how now i know you are most likely one of people you must be feeling some kind of way. Also Pac is beating undefeated champs, name Pac’s last 3 fights & tell me if they were undefeated? Mayweathers last 3 fights in order are Guerrero, Alvarez, & Maidana all 3 were champs right?

Posted July 9, 2014 9:58 pm 


Titopa

LOL!! Weak.sauce!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 9:50 pm 


te tumbo

“It’s funny when Algieri beat Povonikov, all Pactards started saying that May weather will cherry pick him for an easy fight” and that’s why they’re known as Pactards*.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:49 pm 


Auzbox

Boxingfan no one ever bout chris and mayweather up as any idiot that follows boxing knows floyd doesn’t work with arum :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:44 pm 


Auzbox

PAC is beating undefeated champs. If he beats chris that will be two undefeated champs in a row. Floyd has never done that :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:43 pm 


BoxingFan4Life

It’s funny when Algieri beat Povonikov, all Pactards started saying that May weather will cherry pick him for an easy fight, but look who’s picking him now for the easy fight!!! Lmfao.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:43 pm 


Auzbox

Difference is he bounced back beat a top 3 p4p where khan has done nothing. Floyd hasn’t beat a top 3 p4p in years or had a unanimous win in geeeeeeee over a year

Posted July 9, 2014 9:42 pm 


Tachyon

So Mayweather fighting Pac is no good either. PAC has been koed, whipped 3 times by JMM last one by brutal knock out, and is not a undefeated champion.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:41 pm 


Auzbox

Floyd fighting khan is worse than this fight as he has been smashed twice recently and is not an undefeated champion like chris.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:35 pm 


Adrian

When cotto vs trout was announced everyone were saying cotto cherry picked him …. Lol

At some point good undefeated boxer have to get a breakthrough especially when they beat a champ …

Those who are against this fight and ask for someone who has a ” big name” then they shouldn’t have bi@ched about mayweather fighting khan

Posted July 9, 2014 9:26 pm 


Auzbox

PAC has had four catchweight bouts and one was at a disadvantage to himself. Cotto was only 2 pound. Delahoya 7 pound but he wanted the fight and has stated it’s the hardest fight he has ever had :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:23 pm 


Adrian

The Prince

LMAO! This is what Top Rank has always done. Matching Pacquiao against easy wins, or quality opponents whom they weight drain to take their edge away. Now these same people who get all over Mayweather for so-called cherrypicking are now making all kinds of excuses for Pacquiao. hilarious.

Lol typical hater ! Weight drain ?? How about mayweather weight draining Canelo ? How of like that ?

Posted July 9, 2014 9:19 pm 


Auzbox

He’ll when was floyds last unanimous win I can’t remember

Posted July 9, 2014 9:13 pm 


Auzbox

I like how you bring up the KO record of floyds past 2 opponents but when someone’s else’s record fighting guys with no losses or next to you disreguard that. To bad wlad is taking 0s like its a badminton game.

Posted July 9, 2014 8:57 pm 


Auzbox

Styles make fights and Marquez just matches well with PAC. Where dela Hoya matched well with floyd but not PAC at any weight. Cotto is being bought up again but he never was for PAC in a second fight cause the guy was smashed easily

Posted July 9, 2014 8:55 pm 


Auzbox

Marquez fought may at 144 when the guy was a champ at lightweight. Easy to beat a guy 9 pound heavier than he had ever weighed in at.

Posted July 9, 2014 8:53 pm 


Auzbox

Bradley beats maidana every day of the week

Posted July 9, 2014 8:51 pm 


Auzbox

Flits beat hatton at 147. Hattons best fighting weight was 140 that’s why he finished there. Cotto was the 147 champion when PAC destroyed him also

Posted July 9, 2014 8:51 pm 


teflon

Miadana is tougher than Bradley…

Posted July 9, 2014 8:48 pm 


SREDMOND

Problem for you Auzbox is that Floyd is NOT the guy getting sparked out and fighting rehab bouts…Floyd flattened Hatton FIRST, he fought Oscar when he was the Champ at 154 BEFORE PAC Manny dusted Cotto, Floyd UDed him… Manny keeps having to fight Marquez at 4 different weights and got murdered…Meanwhile Marquez would NOT fight or be given a shot in hell of winning against Floyd no matter what… Meanwhile even the soon to be 41 year old version is still a viable and possibly dangerous fight for Manny… There is not much comparison as to who is on top… Everyone saw Manny beat the skilled yet powerless Bradley the first time so pretending there was some sort of intrigue is PURE Comedy..

Posted July 9, 2014 8:43 pm 


TangInaMoPacquiao

What a joke of a fight!!! DIPINDS ON MY PROMOTOR, BOB ARUM!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 8:09 pm 


Auzbox

And what your saying is Lara can’t hit floyd but maidana could. Maidana made floyd miss on a few of occasions and by alot. Lara is a very crafty boxer and we will see how crafty on the w/e

Posted July 9, 2014 7:53 pm 


Auzbox

Teflon top rank has 3 fighters in the top 10 p4p more than any other company. I don’t care what you think of Bradley he was an undefeated champion and top p4p and that’s decided by people with far more boxing knowledge than any of us that’s for sure

Posted July 9, 2014 7:51 pm 


teflon

Auzbox cry all you want Manny is irrelevant and he always will be until be fights good fighters and I dont mean Bradley. Top rank has no one Algeri? Is a bum who beat Ruslan another no body Manny fighting him is senseless BS Arum is making the fight in Macao becuae no one in Vegas will but this BS fight Manny is a wash and his career is over I see why he is begging Floyd for a shot he has nothing. Ok Lara is way too green to box with Floyd he is big and slow he will get schooled very easy. Lara has power but he will not be able to land on Floyd. Canelo is a good test for him but again Canelo has many flaws as well so there match up is good. If Lara wins convincingly he might get a nod especially if the money is right skill wise. Floyd walks all over him.

Posted July 9, 2014 7:32 pm 


Auzbox

We will see this w/e if canelo is the real deal and if Lara beats him then floyd would want to get straight on the phone and get the Lara fight on for may. If Lara can school him like trout thinks he can then we may have hyped him up to much.

Posted July 9, 2014 7:10 pm 


Tomato Can

You don’t earn your stripes with one fight against a guy who wasn’t really established either.

Posted July 9, 2014 7:00 pm 


brza da originator

Any serious student of the game knows pac outclassing tim twice at 147 is better achievement than may takin canelo tp school at 152 . Anyone who ever tried to cut weight before a fight knows it can be crazy counter productive to boil down too much even by one pound wit the hopes of puttin it back on later . Dude can t even make 154 now . Its up to the kid to fight at his best weight n I give floyd credit for takin the fight who could nt have possibly known how bad the boil down would ve affected saul . These r facts not opinions

Posted July 9, 2014 6:56 pm 


Double Standards

It’s pointless pointing this out to you Auzbox but very few people wrote Pacquiao off against Bradley in the rematch due to most believing he had won the first fight and would win again.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:54 pm 


A. Low

Im a lil confused as why algeri doesnt deserve a shot at pac. I mean he kinda just popped out on the scene but he clearly beat Prod with one eye and he looked pretty good. I know there are other good fights but the promoters are in the way. This could really be a great fight Algeri has a pretty good chin and he reminds me of a Young Martinez. Not taking anything away from what everyone is saying but pac is irrelevent what if Algeri wins and continues winning against big names it is time to prepare for the next gen this could make for great match ups in 2015 and 2016 the boxing world needs for a young fighter to beat pac and another to beat Money so we can be past them. By the Way i think GGG will be boxings future if his promothions get right.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:48 pm 


Auzbox

Yes more exciting blitz but algieri is better than prov so he earned his stripes. Poor fight and will do poor ppv numbers

Posted July 9, 2014 6:47 pm 


Auzbox

Before the PAC v Bradley 2 everyone wrote PAC off and now that manny won idiots on here want to discredit him. Fighters are not judged by KOs they are by win loss column. Bradley was an undefeated world champion. If we are going off knockouts mayweather above 140 is putrid by idiots like sredmond only use data when it suits himself and when something is against him he try’s to brush it away

Posted July 9, 2014 6:46 pm 


Blitz

Think the fight is pretty much done and no prov wouldn’t be much better but would have made for a better fight

Posted July 9, 2014 6:40 pm 


Blitz

Auzbox

Posted July 9, 2014 6:37 pm 


Double Standards

Pacquiao did a number on Hatton there’s no disputing that there are numerous excuses to be made but Pacquiao hammered him. What was Hatton’s p4p ranking when he fought him? Or Clottey’s? Margarito’s ? No one really cares and no one really cares about Bradley’s no.3 ranking you keep rambling on about.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:31 pm 


Auzbox

No blitz a poor day for boxing if it comes off but would of the prov fight been acceptable?

Posted July 9, 2014 6:29 pm 


Blitz

Not a good fight for boxing

Posted July 9, 2014 6:27 pm 


Auzbox

And double standards cotto had only ever fought at 147 so where floyd fought him was years later when he was at that weight. He was 2 pound drained and that’s it. Same as canelo was 2 pound and that was also it

Posted July 9, 2014 6:26 pm 


Auzbox

I can hold it as long as I like. History books will state PAC beat top 3 p4p in April. Your all just going to have to deal with it. Your opinions don’t matter as that list is decided by people far more knowledgable than people like sredmond :)

Posted July 9, 2014 6:20 pm 


Auzbox

Forget about canelo as he did the same as pac in the cotto fight. Delahoya yeh not good to drain him 7 pounds. But hatton best fight weight is 140 where PAC killed him in 2 not at 147 where floyd took him.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:19 pm 


Double Standards

You’re clinging on to Bradley’s no.3 p4p rating for dear life aren’t you Auzbox?

Posted July 9, 2014 6:17 pm 


Auzbox

PAC never lost to Bradley but he rematched him and fought no where near his best and beat him unanimously. Yeh floyd dominated Marquez. That’s one floyd dominated where as manny has dominated 4 guys better than floyd. Floyd made a catchweight for Marquez. PAC catchweights 3 mayweather 2. Only need floyd to have one more and he is the equal catchweight king :)

Posted July 9, 2014 6:17 pm 


Double Standards

@Auzbox.., is it alright for Pacquiao to fight De La Hoya at a weight he hadn’t made in 8 years whilst Mayweather fought him at light middle? Is it alright for Pacquiao to fight Cotto 2 pounds below welter when Mayweather fought him at light middle. But it isn’t alright for Mayweather to fight Canelo at 152? Double standards.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:15 pm 


Auzbox

This is quite simple. This fight is a joke. But it’s 2014 and manny beat a top 10 well number 3 p4p best on the planet. Floyd struggled to a majority decision against a guy not rated in the top 25 p4p. Once again quite simple.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:14 pm 


Auzbox

Sredmond says look at mays last two opponents KO comlum. So it’s ok to bring that stat in but not a win loss column statement which is more important in boxing WINNING OR LOOSING

Posted July 9, 2014 6:12 pm 


Auzbox the idiot

Arum is the greatest puppet master ever.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:10 pm 


Auzbox the idiot

But Mayweather didn’t lose like PAC did to Bradley and Marquez.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:08 pm 


Jack Jones

If they would pay Marquez his 20 million we can at least see Pac vs Marquez 5. lol… But I’m glad Marquez demanded those numbers. It shows what Arums is about.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:07 pm 


Auzbox

And again sredmond you don’t hold the power that states who the top p4p fighters are and Bradley was 3. No matter how you cut it manny beat 3. And if we are going down the path with Marquez comparing fights and wins. PAC destroyed cotto hatton and delahoya like floyd could only dream of. Alexander destroyed maidana like floyd could only dream of. So once again to bad comparing any of the Marquez fights to how floyd handled him was stupidity as usual. Oh and the fight before Marquez fought floyd was at 135. So is it ok for Marquez to blow up and not rios. Double standards

Posted July 9, 2014 6:02 pm 


Auzbox

No sredmond I have said I don’t accept this fight so read properly as you always seem to do when it suits you. Haye is not a world class heavy either. Wlad bashes him every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Once again klits will be fighting an undefeated fighter he has been ordered to and again he will win. To bad

Posted July 9, 2014 5:57 pm 


brza da originator

No way was bradley really no 3 in fact I dissagree wit a lot of fighters on the list . Martinez has just been dropped about 2 yrs too late n now cotto is back on it for beatin a shot version of sergio . Boxing at the moment sucks e.g. garcia getting 7 figs for fightin rod salsa but goin on pacs ascent up thru the weight classes he will fight anyone they put in front of him . The blame lies wit sharks like haymon n arum who want to bury each other rather than make the other guy a dollar

Posted July 9, 2014 5:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Ignore that.

Posted on wrong forum.

Posted July 9, 2014 5:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Latisha baby I TOTALLY know Kanye’s manager. Just meet me for a drink after you get outta school and we well see what we can do. Just tell your parents you have soccer practice.

Posted July 9, 2014 5:32 pm 


Double Standards

I’m not hating on Bradley it’s just the no.3 p4p thing gets thrown around a lot and I would dispute that ranking. I don’t hate Pacquiao either I’m just fed up with his choice of opponents and wish he’d take a risk. A fight were we won’t just see him outwork a less mobile opponent or overpower an outgunned one which I can see with Algieri. Even the 4th Marquez fight didn’t appear to be a risk at the time it was made he would have thought he could finally conclusively beat the older guy. I have no interest in Marquez V, Bradley III or Algieri I. Will still watch it though like a mug because like I say I don’t hate Pacquiao.

Posted July 9, 2014 5:26 pm 


brza da originator

@double standard ring n espn r 2 off the top of my head and even after pac beat him convincingly for the second time he s still in the top 10 . Where were all ye guys hating on Bradley before pac2 I never heard many people questionin his standing before that . Btw I hate the algieri fight but arum does nt have many options . No way is al haymon lettin Bob make money off his stable . Haymon wants to bury his comp not coexcist wit them . Pac just don t have Mays options at the moment . These r facts not opinions

Posted July 9, 2014 5:13 pm 


Double Standards

@Hamster.., are you honestly trying to say the only other possible opponent for Pacquiao would’ve been Mayweather? We all know the Mayweather fight isn’t happening any time soon but that doesn’t leave Algieri as the only other option. Be honest if Mayweather was taking on a guy who’s previous fight was in the weight class below he’d be crucified worse than he already gets and Pacquiao has done it already with Rios. Why do Mayweather’s opponents get criticised constantly but yet Pacquiao who so many tip to beat Mayweather gets a pass?

Posted July 9, 2014 4:52 pm 


bacontown

It should be clear to everyone now that Manny is done and Bob Arum the worst thing to happen to boxing EVER!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 4:44 pm 


Double Standards

@brza da.., regardless of p4p ranking – who’s ranking are you quoting btw?- no one can honestly claim Bradley was no.3 p4p in the world at any time. Any ranking would also be based largely on the win over Pacquiao so as most disagree with that win then most disagree with the ranking. No way could Bradley be considered as a higher calibre fighter p4p than the likes of Klitschko and Rigondeux – I’m assuming Ward was no.2 to Mayweather. Also Pacquiao would be considered a better fighter but was lower ranked due to the Bradley defeat that most disagree with. A no.3 p4p ranking for Bradley is ridiculous.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:43 pm 


hamster la cubierre drive

Rubbish fight. But many had said time and again the phone it’s there for Floyd to call. He will do all the drug tests, take less money and so on.

Floyd runs through different excuses. Now he won’t work with arum, will only do certain two days, etc.

The ONLY reason pacman doesn’t have an atg opponent, is Floyd being a teenage prom queen.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:42 pm 


PACMAN

I could’ve took the Marquez fight but I didn’t want to take the chance of getting KTFO again!!!! Just wasn’t worth it, I’ll take a pay cut to fight this bum.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:38 pm 


te tumbo

i’m skeptical that Pacquiao* has the skills to catch and consistently tag Algieri. otherwise, eluding Pacquiao* will be the fight-plan not planting a flag and defending his hill. Algieri gets blown-up in that scenario.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:36 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Algieri doesn’t have the firepower to keep Manny off him. Of course Algieri will likely take the offer since it’s a cash-out opportunity. Weak fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:08 pm 


brza da originator

@ sredmondAnyone givin pac grief for fighting the consensus no 3 p4p at the time they clashed needs to stfu . This fight sucks , by all means rip him over this ,but if ur criticising him for rematchin bradley ( who a lot of floyd fanboys were sayin tim did enough to win ) then u guys r in the territory of a straight up hater

Posted July 9, 2014 3:54 pm 


The Prince

kato3388 – I agree that Top Fighters deserve easy, laid back, fights for a quick payday after successfully winning a very challenging fight, just for fanfare. However, the problem is the clear double standard. Floyd Mayweather Jr. can’t even choose a decently challenging opponent without his haters wanting to throw gasoline on him for it and light a match. He always has to face guys whom are dangerous, and recently, even bigger than him. And even then, a lot of his haters make excuses to claim his wins didn’t prove anything. Manny Pacquiao, on the other hand, has had a history of taking fights against guys whom suffered bad loses, guys whom aren’t that good, or guys whom are, but are forced to weight drain their edge away. For this, Manny is praised by the same people whom are eager to judge Mayweather. When was the last time you read someone claiming Pacquiao needs to fight huge middleweights like GGG to prove anything. It’s laughable.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:41 pm 


kato3388

Manny fighting Algieri is a little better than Garcia fighting Rod Silkha.

Match ups like these are part of the problem with boxing. Too many people want to be businessmen instead of fighters/boxers.

To a degree, I don’t blame them for wanting to make as much $$$ as they can before their short career is over. But, people pay to see good fights, even just interesting fights. This fight does not live up to either. Bad business decision by Arum, and even worse decision if Pacman does take this fight.

I do believe that every great fighter does deserve a cakewalk every once in a while. But choose from the pool of top 10. I mean Zab Judah would be a bigger fight than Algieri, don’t ya think?

Posted July 9, 2014 3:33 pm 


royjoneslastfight

ROY JONES IS THE CURRENT CRUISERWEIGHT CHAMPION !!!!!! FACT !!!! GOOGLE IT !!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 3:31 pm 


The Prince

LMAO! This is what Top Rank has always done. Matching Pacquiao against easy wins, or quality opponents whom they weight drain to take their edge away. Now these same people who get all over Mayweather for so-called cherrypicking are now making all kinds of excuses for Pacquiao. hilarious.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:30 pm 


Servanthood

Is Algieri’s eye even healed yet? Cmon Bob let the poor boy at least lick his wounds first. This would be a lame fight…way premature. There are a handful of more worthy opponents for Pac to fight. This matchup is the business side of boxing at its finest. I hate these kind of matchups and will not pay for this one if it happens.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:30 pm 


te tumbo

HIBDEEBIBDEE, Rios’ only fight at 147lbs is v. Pacquiao*; Garcia or Mathysse would LOVE to be informed that they won the Manny* $weepstakes; Ruslan remains worthier than Algieri based on body-of-work alone. he was also only outpointed by Algieri not demolished or trampled by Algieri and even though i agree with the decision there are others that can present credible arguments that the nod should’ve gone the other way. bottomline, Pacquiao* is irrelevant if (as you describe) he is ineligible to face any other top welter contender. Btw, i notice you left out Guerrero? what’s the obstacle there? you also neglect to make a case as to why Algieri is the worthiest opponent for Pacquiao*? quite frankly, it’s all of these excuses that reinforce my personal opinion that Pacquiao* IS irrelevant to Boxing or any meaningful matchup, which no longer includes Mayweather or Marquez.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:16 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“i’m NOT a fan of Manny* and this is why. “Arum makes offer to Algieri” but not Thurman? Mathysse? Garcia? even Guerrero or Provodnikov…”

te tumbo, Garcia isn’t fighting as a welterweight and it doesn’t look like he has plans to any time soon. Isn’t Thurman and Guerrero managed by Haymon? As for Matthysse, he’s also a jr. welterweight. And as for Provodnikov, he just lost his title to Algieri. So in fighting Algieri Pac would be doing the same thing Mayweather has done for quite a while–fight champions./

Posted July 9, 2014 3:03 pm 


hibdeebibdee

Correction to my last post: I also meant to say that I did not say Algieri was a threat to Pacquiao.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:01 pm 


hibdeebibdee

SREDMOND and EZ E, I did not say Algieri was a “big puncher” or that he had “good power,” or that Algieri was I also did not say anything about Marcos Maidana, nor did I make any comparisons between Maidana and Algieri.

What I did say was Algieri “has power,” and that all he has to do is outbox Pacquiao–I mean, well enough that he can convince the judges that he beat Manny, of course.

But like I said in my first post on this thread, I think Arum is scraping the bottom of the bucket for a Pacquiao fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:59 pm 


RapidFire

Arum’s out of options lol Mark my words in the next few years you will see a steady decline in Pacquiao’s opponents and speed. His speed will go first, after that it’ll be his infamous power which I may add has yet to be seen since he started getting drug tested.. At this given time in his career choosing an opponent with power and good handspeed is a bad decision for Manny and his declining skills. Arum will milk Pacquiao for everything he’s got…

Posted July 9, 2014 2:51 pm 


te tumbo

i’m NOT a fan of Manny* and this is why. “Arum makes offer to Algieri” but not Thurman? Mathysse? Garcia? even Guerrero or Provodnikov would be worthier options. nonetheless, this is a calculated gamble of sorts. Algieri has a style that Pacquiao* won’t do his best again. if Algieri is able to deliver an elusive boxing performance, i can already see Pacquiao* missing with wild lunges, being countered, and outpointed. of course, that type of performance would only be reflected by fair scoring. not much of a chance of that happening in Macao or the U.S. for that matter.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:40 pm 


Anonymous

Algier is a bum…

Posted July 9, 2014 2:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Algieri is a good guy but this is pretty desperate and looks to be a bad business move should it actually come off.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:18 pm 


Tomato Can

The fact is Algieri has only had one notable fight. That’s the only problem I have with this fight. If he were to have a few more notable fights, then the fight might be interesting. There are pleanty of more deserving fighters out there.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Again I am a Manny fan but this has to be discussed for what it is… A cakewalk

Posted July 9, 2014 1:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Thurmal Underwear that’s EXACTLY what I have been saying! the fights that hardcore fans are giving Manny pats on the back for would NEVER fly for Mayweather… Rematching a guy you beat easily??? 17 fights with an aging Juan Manuel Marquez who Floyd easily DUSTED, Rios coming off a Loss? and now possibly Chris Algieri who was supposed to be a powerless walkover that ended up nicking Provodnikov who is always in hard fights? Mayweather is facing tougher and bigger opposition while Pac is getting passes for these fights… There is indeed a Double Standard going on… Tim Bradley is a damn good fighter but he stands no chance of outboxing a Floyd Mayweather and a KO is not even in the realm of possibility….

Posted July 9, 2014 1:53 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

manny pacquaio=smoke and mirrors; a career out it

Posted July 9, 2014 1:47 pm 


enough already

Maidana is a tougher opponent than Bradley regardless of the ranking history has shown that they are not always accurate judging and ranking anyway. Bradley cannot punch for sht. Manny wants no parts of a Marquez 5. He will get ktfo again

Posted July 9, 2014 1:46 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

haha if floyd fought this guy; PUBLIC OUTRAGE. what a effing double standard. i’ll laugh so hard if he loses to this guy.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:45 pm 


Happyboy

As a matter of fact, you making an ass of yourself.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:43 pm 


Happyboy

Auzbox – ” Konsz pacs manager has stated Marquez wants no testing and 20 mill for the fifth fight. ” you sounding awfully desperate mate when you want us to trust what Koncz says about JMM.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, applied 000000 analysis to his comments he is just coming up with knee jerk defenses that got him some of the attention he wants… The positions he took are not remotely sustainable… He would sell Wach, Pianeta and Algieri as top notch boxers when astute boxing fans know where the fall on the spectrum…

Posted July 9, 2014 1:39 pm 


Double Standards

@Auzbox.., are you f*cking serious comparing Mayweather and Klitschko opponents by their loss column? Pacquiao has 5 losses so by that reckoning if Mayweather was to say fight an unbeaten fighter like say Algieri then that would be a more dangerous opponent than Pacquiao? Give it a rest. And you can give it a rest with the Bradley no.3 p4p bull also you’ve been spouting it for weeks, no one except you thinks that Bradley was the 3rd best fighter in the world at any time.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:35 pm 


EZ E

Hibdee I recognize Algieri’s talent but as for him having GOOD power, well.. I wouldn’t go that far. I know Provo is durable but I have copies of about 4 of Algieri’s other fights and NONE resemble him being a fighter with ‘good’ power. All of his kayos have come over C-/D level opposition and NONE over fairly decent opposition. Most would consider him a boxer type with a little bit more pop that Paulie Malignaggi, but nothing more as far as power is concerned. His last ko come over William Acuna, a fighter who’s 7 out of 11 defeats have come by knockout. Incidentally, Acuna was easily ko’d here by a fighter of our stable, in 2 rounds a couple of years before Algieri did. Peace to you!

Posted July 9, 2014 1:29 pm 


Ok

Algieri is a nobody who beat Ruslan another nobody. This fight is a load of crap that no one wants to see, Manny will destroy him. And why is Manny fighting in unheard parts of China istead of Vegas? Umm probably becayse he can use his PEDS with ease. There are a host of eligible fighters for Manny that will bring in huge ppvs but Arum is screwing Manny he has crap at top rank and everyone knows it this fight wont see dollar one…

Posted July 9, 2014 1:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Arum has already said he is relying on site fees to pay Pac Mans heavy guarantee… That’s why they are looking to do this in Macau, and relieve the burden of selling PPV to US audiences who are getting more hesitant to buy these fights.. ie Martinez vs Cotto, Rios vs Manny Manny vs Bradley and Maidana vs Mayweather which all underperformed… This is more dangerous, to be honest Manny is flirting with a possible sub 400k PPV which would put him in Saul Alvarez vs Angulo territory… Arum had better hurry up and make peace with Oscar and get Pac Man some known names to face or Marquez 25 might be on deck in a couple years.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:24 pm 


Jay rock

This is so sad! I can’t believe people are saying this is going to be a good fight!

Posted July 9, 2014 1:21 pm 


Livershot

Could have made a mega fight with Kahn, instead he wants to fight on ESPN de ocho. Algireri is just not a big enough name yet. The kid has talent but wont draw numbers. That PPV flop he had with Rios is going to look like a fortune when he makes less than that for this one. SMH.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:18 pm 


SREDMOND

srminimo, I hope that you are right on that one and its possible… Even another fight with Marquez will be a pretty tired replay (2nd rematch in a row) but Algieri is just not a provocative opponent for Manny Pacquiao… Upsetting Provo is nice but its not something that should get you a Pac Man shot off the top, its not as if he knocked Provo out.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:07 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Top Stink.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:04 pm 


srminimo

This has to be a ploy to get Marquez to sign the dotted line. My apologies to Algieri, but no one wants to see him fight Pacquiao, and that includes Pac, Arum and Roach. He’s a tall, lanky mover that will probably not make for an action fight; he’s not a guy I would expect Pac to get highly motivated for, and he’s not a big draw…

Posted July 9, 2014 1:00 pm 


brza da originator

Maybe algieri is good maybe very good . However My eyes tell me ruslan is a way better fightrr than him who just dropped the ball . Maybe chris will prove me wrong but he needs at least one more win agsinst a top guy before bein in line for a pac fight

Posted July 9, 2014 12:51 pm 


SREDMOND

I like Manny Pacquiao and I don’t think he is scared of much there was certainly a time where I would have put my left nut on that comment… That said when is the last time he faced a DANGEROUS fighter? I would have to say a 39 year old version of Marquez who knocked him FLAT OUT… He had ALREADY defeated Bradley and not a single soul thought Bradley could stop Manny Pacquiao when the last guy that Bradley stopped was a SAD TKO of an utterly washed up Joel Casamayor, Rios was NOBODY at 147 coming off of a LOSS, and now Algieri who is a really nice guy and should get an award for showing balls and letting Provodnikov he needs to learn something called “Plan B” but he is not a danger had NO cred on the World Stage till he nicked Ruslan…At this point I think Top Rank has truly run out of options absent some WAY overdone rematches ie Marquez and Bradley…..Who is he gonna fight next? Zou Schming?

Posted July 9, 2014 12:50 pm 


sthomas

Pac goes from beating the mythical #3 P4P to this guy. I hope it’s not happening. I’m not going to think too much about it until/if the fight is signed.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Hidbee, part of Pac’s edge on Bradley was the fact that he is a solid puncher who has hurt Tim before, the WW version of Pac Man is not a KO artist by any stretch but if you get stupid he can make you pay… Its REALLY sad for you to try and promote Algieri as a big puncher or a real threat he is NOT… Maidanas win over Broner was CLEAR with no controversy at all… I felt Algieri edged Provodnikov who was NOT blue chip fighter to begin with and had already suffered 2 prior defeats… Maidana beating Broner was a MUCH bigger deal and he proved he meant business by giving Floyd a better fight than Canelo or Cotto who are both TOP NOTCH professionals to say the least….This is a borderline embarrassing fight for Pac Man as evidenced by Koncz saying previously that they were “not seriously entertaining Provodnikov” YET they want a bout in China with a guy who nicked him via upset??? Again if Floyd said “I want Algieri” I seriously doubt the CRABS on this site would stand up and applaud…

Posted July 9, 2014 12:34 pm 


SREDMOND

Hibdee, c’mon man Algieri has stopped 8 fighters and that’s facing a LOW level of competition for the most part the last guy he stopped had 12 losses.. I like Algieri he showed me some real guts against Provo but pretending his he half as dangerous as Maidana is COMICAL add to that the fact that Algieri has been fighting at 140 pounds and you have a farcical comparison… Pacquiao and company can do what they want to be we ALL KNOW that this would NOT be a suitable opponent for Mayweather no matter how you try to position his past….!!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 12:26 pm 


JoeKidd

Total farce. This is about Algieri, not Pacquiao. Algieri is Arum’s latest project. He figures educated, white American cute boy will be a gold mine. Won’t even be surprised if he decisions Pacquiao! Like Bradley did!

Posted July 9, 2014 11:57 am 


Anonymous

its what modern boxing is all about. get used to it.

Posted July 9, 2014 11:39 am 


the bible

white boys like it or not Floyd is ranked by every book magaizine every analysis he is rated by far the best fighter in the universe don’t hate white boys

Posted July 9, 2014 11:36 am 


hibdeebibdee

“Anyone saying this fight is better than FMJ vs Maidana 2 only proves my point about standard… Algieri has no power or expected ability to hurt Manny…”

SREDMOND, Algieri has a 40% KO ratio and that’s a lot better than a number of past champions as well as a number of champions of the present era. For instance, in his last 11 fights, Mayweather has only about a 18% KO ratio–about the same as Paulie Malignaggi over the course of his career.

Regardless, Chris has power, he’s an accurate puncher, he has good defense, great footwork and very good ring I.Q. The reason he didn’t look “powerful” against Provodnikov is because Prov has a durable chin–he’s one tough brawler.

As for Algieri having “expected ability to hurt Manny” well, all he has to do is outbox Pacquiao. Just like Pac did to Bradley in their second fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 11:10 am 


hibdeebibdee

I have to say Arum is scraping the bottom of the bucket. Suddenly Algieri is a contender for Manny Pacquiao? Please sink that ugly boat.

Posted July 9, 2014 11:01 am 


Jack Jones

Arum I thought you had Mayweather by the balls. He was backed into a corner with no one but Maidana to fight again which a lot of fans don’t care for. Arum you just blew it! You’re making Mayweather look like a genius. He will out do you again in PPV’s.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:59 am 


Jack Jones

I hope Bob Arum thinking about building that brand new Stadium. He’s gonna need it cause this will be pacs worst PPV numbers.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:54 am 


Jack Jones

Wow!! That’s a Broner type move. Choose a guy with eight KO’s. I guess the steroids are completely out Pacs system.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:44 am 


Anonymous

VERY SAD.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:36 am 


brza da originator

Freddie needs to speak up . Havin a ppv against algieri hurts pacs legacy win r lose . Pacs stocks not gonna up win or lose .

Posted July 9, 2014 10:23 am 


Tomato Can

Exactly this is good for Algieri, unfortunateily it isn’t good for many else.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:21 am 


kato3388

@BOXY – On one thread u call me a pea-brain… and on this thread u PREDICT an Algeri win over Pacman.. Hahahaha.. You’re a JOKE Boxy, thanks for the laffs.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:19 am 


kato3388

I’ll give Algeri his props for getting the win. After watching the fight a second time, the close rounds had to be given to him based on the fact that he let his hands go, regardless how ineffective his power was.. Provo walked right through most of em.

This is a great story for Algeri but, does nothing for Pac’s legacy. This fight should NOT happen. I’ve given Maytwitter a lot of flack for his choices of opponents, from Baldomir, to Ednar Cherry, to Victor Ortiz, to Guerrero.. and I will give Manny flack if he chooses Algeri as his next opponent.

I don’t care if he is undefeated… Undefeated don’t mean $#!T these days when a fighter is fed tomato cans, cab drivers and untested, hyped up fighters.

A Khan vs. Pacman fight would draw more interest, and despite Khan’s losses, and the fact he didn’t look great in his last few wins, he still comes to fight and is a pretty decent boxer. Pacman would own Khan, but it’d be a much better fight for as long as it lasts.

Also, Maytwitter vs. Maidana II, is a much better matchup. How can anyone compare Maidana’s body of work to Algeri. It shows a lack of boxing IQ to even say that. But to each his own.

Posted July 9, 2014 10:17 am 


SREDMOND

Anyone saying this fight is better than FMJ vs Maidana 2 only proves my point about standard… Algieri has no power or expected ability to hurt Manny unless PAC is truly washed up whereas Maidana is a PROVEN danger and has the KO’s and KD’s to Back that up… Maidana surprised people and gave Floyd a tough fight meanwhile PAC against Bradley was an anti-climax because we all thought Bradley lost the first time.. Weak about

Posted July 9, 2014 10:14 am 


brza da originator

@sredmond in not defendin wlad but don t twist it . The reason wlad can t continuasly fight world champs is because him n the contenders all fight in one division n wlad n his big bro owned that division for yrs . He can t jump weights like may n pac . U know this

Posted July 9, 2014 10:08 am 


The Mad Scientist

Auzbox is still out here doing damage control ..Lol!

Posted July 9, 2014 10:07 am 


mn

We have all moved on Pac and FMJ had their chance. Dana White is now banking the PPV $$$$$. Arum needs shooting he has killed fight of century.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:55 am 


Hon

Arum is the worst thing to happen to Paq

Posted July 9, 2014 9:48 am 


SREDMOND

Wach and Pianeta did not lose because they were DOMESTIC level fighters… Tony Thompson was a retread 40 year old who Wlad had already stopped if you think Wach gets more cred than Cotto at 154 you don’t know a THING about boxing… Almost NONE of Wlads recent opposition were EVER legit World Champs absent Haye who beat Valuev, Povetkin had a belt made out of tin whereas ALL Mayweathers past several opponents were or had been World Champions at minimum … There is a reason that Floyd makes MORE per fight than Wlad can in 3 years… Those scrubs Klits fights are only marketable in those German arenas REAL fans know a garbage opponent when they see one… “Mormeck after a 2 year layoff” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted July 9, 2014 9:47 am 


SREDMOND

Auzbox, Wlad Klits opponents are PUTRID in comparison to Floyd’s Pianeta, Wach, Mormeck were garbage.. Floyd has faced more HOF fighters in his last 10 contests than Wlad has in his ENTIRE career Marquez, Mosley, Oscar…. It’s not even a comparable discussion Klits BARELY faces World Class opponents anymore with the exception of Povetkin and Haye…

Posted July 9, 2014 9:41 am 


Auzbox

I don’t support this fight its poor but mannys hands are tied as far as opponents go. Konsz pacs manager has stated Marquez wants no testing and 20 mill for the fifth fight. PAC just beat Bradley unanimously leaving nothing for people to pick at like a maj decision or a split decision. Everybody was happy for the prov fight but now an undefeated boxer wins against prov it’s not good enough? Come on. World champ and undefeated is what the likes of p4p king would boast about :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:37 am 


Tomato Can

Well at least some people support this move.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:32 am 


Auzbox

Wlad klits opponents in last ten bouts loss column 15 losses and 4 undefeated. Floyd 30 losses and 2 undefeated :) wlad faces real opponents with guys that don’t loose or rarely loose :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:31 am 


The oracle of Delphi

Better fight than Fraud vs Maidana 2. Algieri is young and hungry, and has a title. Good fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 9:25 am 


Auzbox

Or how floyd did against the gold medalist vs how klits did against his??????? Wlad beat him by more than 12 rounds by every score card vs floyd got a split decision :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:23 am 


Auzbox

And sredmond your quick to bag wlad klits but have you gone through his last 10 bouts vs floyds last 10 bouts just in the loss column? Wlad kills floyd :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:22 am 


Auzbox

Alvarado is quickly to be bagged yet rios stopped him in their first bout at 140 so he clearly bought his danger from 135 to 140. Rios is no good but can stop someone Marquez can’t so he is pretty ok in my book :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:21 am 


Auzbox

Well no sredmond boxing does not go on who has the most stoppages that’s for sure. It’s more important to fight the best p4p which for pac and may in the 147 division which is Bradley who PAC beat unanimously, where as floyd beat a no one p4p majority decision who was bashed by Alexander who was bashed by Bradley. Funny how boxing goes in a merry go round :)

Posted July 9, 2014 9:19 am 


SREDMOND

Unless this is a ploy to get JMM to sign, it effectively kills a 5th bout in my mind… Who wants to see Marquez slurping piss and 42 years old facing Pacquiao again? For this fight to be entertained clearly the squeeze is on Pacquiao as it pertains to viable opponents…Next will be Alvarado if he can be someone with a pulse..

Posted July 9, 2014 9:09 am 


SREDMOND

When will impostors learn they cannot effectively imitate me? I am a big Manny fan that said this fight leaves me disinterested.. Again it’s a nice story that a kid like Algieri gets a payday and a moment he won’t forget (sharing the ring with an ATG) but this bout illustrates the widening Gap between expectations for Mayweather and PacMan…Bradley is a damn good fighter but he can’t stop anybody even at 140, now Pacs in with Algieri a guy who at 140 has 8 stoppages the last one against a LAME, that means Mannys last 2 opponents have 21 stoppages whereas Floyd’s have 62 stoppages BOTH are bigger guys than the dudes PAC is facing…If Floyd fought Algieri his detractors would go NUTS but guys like Rios off a loss and Algieri are becoming acceptable for PAC Man in between rematches with Marquez and Bradley who most thought he defeated the first time.. Floyd clearly operates at a higher standard booking wins against Top Jr MW opposition..

Posted July 9, 2014 9:04 am 


Adrian

Auxbox
Yeah all these PAC haters were the ones who were claiming how paqiao has no good option to fight because he is under bob arum and now they say he is cherry picking ? Hahahahahaha

Posted July 9, 2014 8:43 am 


Auzbox

Once again funny how prov was ok for the PAC fight but as chris gets the decision and now is an undefeated world champion that’s not enough. To bad :)

Posted July 9, 2014 8:34 am 


Auzbox

Looming do they hold world titles as chris does???

Posted July 9, 2014 8:33 am 


ECAT

Pacman is a CHERRY-PICKER……………..

Posted July 9, 2014 8:29 am 


kato3388

NO FREAKIN’ WAY!!!! I am a HUGE, HUGE Pacquiao fan… And this DISAPPOINTS the hell out of me. Algeri, is a flash in the pan. 1 decent win (depending on which fight you watched), and now he’s up for the Pacman sweepsteaks… Kinnda sounds like the crap I gave Maytwitter for Ortiz, Guererro, etc…..

Bob Arum is a BIG FAT IDIOT. I’m sorry… there’s no way Algeri deserves a shot at Pacman, and I don’t think Pacman should take the fight. I hate when he’s asked who he’d like to fight next and he defers to his promotor…

Posted July 9, 2014 8:21 am 


Adrian

They complained when Provo took the fight against Algieri but he won and now against paqiao complain again ? I mean he suppose to be a pure boxer and paqiao haters say he can’t fight pure boxers riiiiiight ???

Posted July 9, 2014 8:13 am 


He glossed me!

Floyd would never fight this guy when he can tear up tomato cans like maidana…geeez maidana people twice!

Posted July 9, 2014 7:34 am 


Boxtradamus

Algieri comes to FIGHT and will shock the world when he upsets Pacquiao. Maybe at that point the world will stop asking for him to fight MONEY TBE Floyd Mayweather.

Posted July 9, 2014 7:27 am 


loomis

Auzbox. Ok lets say there are promotional issues with those fighters. Top rank still promote jessie vargas or luis abergu , 2 far superior fighters for pacquiao than the icecream man algieri!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 7:07 am 


RAYGORDON REID

do it

Posted July 9, 2014 7:00 am 


matthews

Alot of complaining. Who should pac fight then.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:48 am 


Auzbox

Barlow don’t count geale out he won’t dissapointed. He went to Germany twice and won, he is the best matchup on this list.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:45 am 


boxing barlow

Algieri? Oh dear, this is another awful match up. Whats going on in boxing. Do we really want to see Mayweather v Maidana 2? Nah not really. How abouut garcia V Salka? Peterson V Santana? GGG V Geale? Is there much point in Frampton V Martinez 2 (other than giving Frampton a belt)? Yet we put up with these fights.

Posted July 9, 2014 6:28 am 


Adrian

Peej idiot , were you the one who wAs so much against mayweather fighting khan before Maidana vs mayweather happen ? Who are you trying to fool you liar ? You said khan dosent deserve the fight with mayweather but now you would like to see him fight paqiao but not Algieri who just beat the guy Provo who was a CHAMPION and gave hell to Bradley ??

You are the one who always say ” mayweather beat the champion ” when he fights garbage opponent like Guerrero or when you bring up baldomir you always bring this”CHAMP” thing when it comes to mayweather but now when paqiao is fighting an undefited boxer “CHAMPION ” is no good for you ehh ???? Gtfo idiot !!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 5:54 am 


Bob

Manny Pacquiao is a joke…

Posted July 9, 2014 5:39 am 


Auzbox

Loomis they are promoted by goldenboy so they are all off the table, hopefully April next year they are all on the table

Posted July 9, 2014 5:12 am 


Zuks

Hecdog is the greatest idiot to ever post on this site

Posted July 9, 2014 5:05 am 


loomis

Very weird pick by team pac/arum. This will equal the lowest klitchtko ppv I would imagine. Why algieri ffs???? Why not khan, guererro, broner, a name thats at least half known?? This fights will be like an burnhouse incinerator , it, s going to stink the place out, get the oxygen masks at the ready!!!!!!!!

Posted July 9, 2014 4:52 am 


cost

Manny Pacquiao fighting another tough opponent. It’s a 50/50 fight with Arum’s judges.

Posted July 9, 2014 4:31 am 


Auzbox

Cotto was no speed bump nor dela Hoya. Hatton wasn’t either till 7. They all sure were PAC without breaking a sweat in two. HOLLA

Posted July 9, 2014 4:20 am 


brza da originator

@sredmond im a fan of both fighters n I don t have to degrade one to build up the other both of there cvs speak for themselves . I dunno when u started watchin pac but I ve seen him come thru the lower weights knockin out killers n buildin his star the hardway . He s not the same force now at 147 but he went north in search of dollars n I can t hate on that

Posted July 9, 2014 4:14 am 


Auzbox

Haha mayweather fought a guy not rated p4p and struggled sredmond and PAC was kod and came back to beat 3 p4p. :)

Posted July 9, 2014 4:09 am 


SREDMOND

@brza

I think that Pacquaio is a great fighter for an Asian, but is overly worshipped on here by Mayweather detractors. The fact is that this fight makes him look like the little yellow chump Mayweather accused him of being.

You can all try to deny this, but Mayweather is riding on strong towards 50-0 while Pacquiao is booking naps at the expense of fighters Mayweather treated like speedbumps.

HOLLLLLLLLLA

Posted July 9, 2014 4:04 am 


PEEJ

You are an idiot. I haven’t said anything about Khan. Don’t even know why you brought his name up. I was being condescending when I said Pac vs Canelo because Top Rank and or Roach brought it up not to long ago idiot. You need to learn to read. Just dumb

Posted July 9, 2014 4:04 am 


Adrian

Q

Fight Khan even. Khan or Thurman… but algieri? please..

Posted July 9, 2014 3:16 am

You should ask your hero mayweather to fight them why don’t you ? Oh I forgot Maidana is better then Thurman or khan eh hahahahahahahahaha

Posted July 9, 2014 4:02 am 


Adrian

Unbelievable!!!! Here we go again with peej =rob smith bs !lol so now Algieri is no good but khan is eh??? I thought you said khan dosent deserve big fights ?? And you ask PAC to fight Canelo. ? What weight 154? Gtfo!!! Algieri just beat prodvodnikov who was a champ and when paqiao fought rios you said pac beat a ” punchingbag” but now we have an undefited tall pure boxer champion and you complain??? Gtfo !!!

Posted July 9, 2014 4:00 am 


Rice stick

What a joke…f cking jew’s and slope’s

Posted July 9, 2014 3:47 am 


PEEJ

They were just recently talking about Guerrero vs Pac what like 2 or 4 weeks ago. To be honest though I don’t think Guerreros name is really bigger than Algeries name

Posted July 9, 2014 3:36 am 


Auzbox

Q thurman is promoted by Oscar. Oscar and bob are not working together. Thurman also fights on showtime where as PAC HBO so those fights are not happening. Thurman is floyds mandotary also.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:35 am 


PEEJ

Stop with that Hecdog. You start talking about Marquez and PEDs then you also think Pac was on something. Pac also declined to do Vada testing unless he is in China. Raises eyebrows. Why doesn’t he agree to them in the states. Pac will also alway be remembered for being KOd by Marquez. You constntly right books about Pac on this sight. Just post a comment. No need to publish articles on here

Posted July 9, 2014 3:34 am 


Hecdog

Doesn’t really matter who fights Manny Pacquiao next. This is the greatest pure fighter in the history of boxing. He’s coming off another brilliant victory over a young, tougher than nails, undefeated boxer in Timothy Bradley who recently schooled Ped Man Marquez. The story and headlines is always Manny Pacquiao. Ped Man Marquez and Mayweather both refuse to fight the living legend, so what else can Manny do? He wants the biggest fights out there, but no one has the courage to step in there with him. Mayweather as I mentioned would rather jump off a bridge, Ped Man Marquez and his acne riddled body can’t get away with his special nutritional mix and Cotto knows better than to step in with Manny Pacquiao again in any weight class. So Algieri jumps at the chance to step into the ring with Manny Pacquiao. He has no chance. His 15 minutes of fame tripled already, and although he’s a good athlete and decent boxer, he will get destroyed. Manny Pacquiao at 80% is better than most elite fighters in their prime. The speed, movement, quickness, power and dominating fighting style is still there. Manny is fighting a bit smarter lately, but he can still bring that furious power punch any time he wants. His magnificent display of power punching and boxing can be brought out any time in any fight. Algieri best rethink his decision if he wants to make that walk into the ring with Manny Pacquiao. He best realize that this is not a game, and he’s not fighting Provodnikov. He’s not going to be able to use his little tap dancing feet and go where he wants to go fighting Manny Pacquiao. Trust me, if and Manny Manny drops Algieri, he’s not going to make it out of the round. Manny Pacquiao is a treat for boxing fans all over the world to watch. I highly suggest that someone tell Algieri not to take this fight before it’s too late. He’s nowhere near ready to fight Manny Pacquiao. The world will once again come alive when the fight has been signed. Manny Pacquiao is boxing. He has carried the sport for over 10 years. The Fighting Congressman, King of the Ring, Pride of the Philippines, and the best ever was will the world together to see him unleash his fury on his sacrificial opponent, in this case it will be Algieri. Manny is the best!

Posted July 9, 2014 3:29 am 


brza da originator

@Q I wish it was that easy my man. Thurman wud take that fight in the mornin n manny s luv s fightin bangers but boxing politics is killin the sport I luv . Haymon s aim is to bury hi competitors not make them money

Posted July 9, 2014 3:25 am 


Q

brza da originator: If people want to fight, they will fight. I haven’t seen two people really wanting to fight eachother and not fighting. If you “leave it up to the promoter” then you’re welcoming that kind of stuff. But if two fighters are really pushing to fight eahother, then I think they’ll end up fighting somehow.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:20 am 


Q

my bad, of course Algieri isn’t top 10 at WW… he’s not a welterweight, lol. Have Lucas move up or something if you can, but Algieri is a no go.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:18 am 


brza da originator

@Q pay attention man al haymon not gonna let arum make a dime off any of his stable

Posted July 9, 2014 3:17 am 


TJ

THIS IS THE problem I’ve always had with PPV fights…

Back in the day when Don King competed with Bob Arum for the spot of top promoter we had unbelievably good, stacked cards with King regularly putting on 4 title fights or more with the likes of Chavez Snr. and Trinidad as the draw…

We had genuine SUPERFIGHTS with the likes of SRL, Marvelous Marvin and Tommy Hearns headlining and even as a kid I go to view these fights at Live screenings on the South Bank in London, etc..

Nowadays, every fight a boxer has is PPV!!!

What is theirs to distinguish between a mark-time bout such as this to a genuine challenge from a Marquez or a Canelo etc. ???

Probably, $20 extra as a charge. [LOL]

As fans we should say ENOUGH already!

There’s no problem Pac fighting the likes of Algieri, but why are these fights on PPV instead of normal, terrestrial TV like they were in Holyfield’s day on ABC, NBC and CBS and we had great fights in UK, like Benn vs Eubank and vs Watson on Terrestrial ITV!

PPV, really should only be for the big fights and boxers would actually benefit from fighting back on regular TV and actually have to fight 3 or 4 times a year to EARN a PPV fight (and actually learn the craft of their sport by fighting regularly in both title and Non-title bouts which was common place, even up to early 2000)!

Posted July 9, 2014 3:16 am 


Q

Fight Khan even. Khan or Thurman… but algieri? please..

Posted July 9, 2014 3:16 am 


Q

Fight Thurman…. he’s available…. I mean even Devon Alexander would be a better fight, but definitely Thurman all around. Algieri isn’t even rated top 10 at WW

Posted July 9, 2014 3:15 am 


brza da originator

@peej desperate times call for desperate measures . Don t like the fight but roberts a name n the fight will be exciting while Iit lasts . If chris can beat another top fighter in between then by all means give him the pac fight

Posted July 9, 2014 3:03 am 


PEEJ

No way should Guerrero get a shot at Pac. What has he really done. He shouldn’t of even gotten a shot at Floyd. Only reason it happened because it was Floyds first fight coming out of jail. I still didn’t like the fight. Guerrero would be KOd by Pac because of the offensive power Pac has. Heck it looked like Floyd was gonna stop Guerrero in the 9th or 10th round of their fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 3:00 am 


Auzbox

Yep spot on guerro would be a way better fit and he could have tried to do better than mayweather did against him. Even if PAC beats chris in the first 30 seconds of round 1 they will say he was a bum. If it goes to decision they will say he went the distance with a bum

Posted July 9, 2014 2:57 am 


brza da originator

Not sure if gurrero id haymon but I think he wud sell better than chris ( but he d be lookin for more money which id rather spend on somethin like the undercard I suggested posted below ). I hope Bob is just frontin because even if pac demolishes this guy he won t get credit . Freddie needs to speak up its a lose lose fight for manny

Posted July 9, 2014 2:54 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

Pacquiao seems to be on a tour of Asia, and it’s about banking as much money as possible.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:46 am 


Auzbox

Chei everyone is not happy PAC fans as well. The only positive is he is unbeaten and a world champ but that’s it.

Posted July 9, 2014 2:41 am 


Auzbox

Yeh brza agree good fights to be made, I hope he loads it up or it’s shooting for a huge loss in November. And that zou shming isn’t going to help a whole lot

Posted July 9, 2014 2:40 am 


chei

I can’t believe no one has complained bout this fight if it was Mayweather try to fight Chris you guys will say its cherry picking but Manny fighting him everyone is cool with it saying chris deserves the pay day gtfoh

Posted July 9, 2014 2:36 am 


brza da originator

@ auzbox agreed fight will be way bigger next yr . Bob ain t got much money but he needs an entertaining card that won t break the bank . How about curtis stevens andy lee ( 2 bangers who always in good fights ) n ggg n vera ( ggg against a bigger guy wit n iron chin who will last a while ) . Bob cud make both fights for south of 2 . 5 mill I think

Posted July 9, 2014 2:24 am 


Auzbox

Crawford is a good fight but he is small and half the fans would say PAC is fighting a smaller guy which is half true. When he comes up maybe that fight could happen. I like Crawford and Garcia but

Posted July 9, 2014 2:16 am 


brza da originator

Bob should have put prov in wit a bigger name than algieri n if they got the W over ruslan then a pac fight wud be legit . A win for prov over algieri was never gonna raise his stock anyway . He was either gonna knock him out which he was expected to do anyway r look bad wit chris lookin to survive

Posted July 9, 2014 2:08 am 


brza da originator

Crawford @140

Posted July 9, 2014 2:03 am 


PEEJ

Not sure. I don’t see why Bradley wouldn’t as long as he is making good money. He really isn’t a main even fighter unless he has a good opponent he is facing. Garcia I think would also fight on the under card. But he is having issues with Top Rank and last I read they are not even close to fixing it. As a matter of fact Arum thinks Haymon is behind the issue that Garcia has. So who knows. Plus he wants to be paid in the million bracket and he doesn’t pull money in like that either. But if they were to fight on the under card of regular cable TV then that would make a huge statement.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:58 am 


Auzbox

But peej would Bradley or mikey fight on pacs undercard? There the only names other than prov that could pull bigger numbers but still the main event stinks.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:52 am 


Auzbox

Pacs numbers did well v Bradley compared to may v maidana so his rep can still fire but it needs a good opponent. If mayweather can’t break 1 mill then no one is going to. Cotto v canelo should he win could go close but I’m not sure

Posted July 9, 2014 1:47 am 


brza da originator

Cotto at 154 cud do north of 1.3 n if he lost it would nt be a disgrace because its a legacy fight in a weight class he has no business being near . If he has problems lookin good against algieri who will run n look to survive his stock will fall further

Posted July 9, 2014 1:45 am 


PEEJ

I am not saying the PPV is going to do great numbers. To be honest nobody seems interested in watching Pac fight since his loss to Marquez. But the only way any PPV is gonna do good is if they stack the undercards like the did for Floyd vs Canelo.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:35 am 


brza da originator

@peej unless he stacks the card which he won t because hes gotta pay pac 17 mill garaunteed its gonna bomb on ppv . Ur idea cud be worth a shot vecause its losin money anyway n he cud try n raise pacs profile to non boxin fans

Posted July 9, 2014 1:27 am 


Boxtradamus

GOOD job by Top Rank for taking MY advice. Promote the Fight as a native New Yorker Fighting Pacquiao and you’ll DO GOOD numbers because you’ve got one of the Biggest markets in the World involved. Also you’re following Mayweather’s footsteps by either facing Top 10 P4P opponents or CHAMPS. I CONGRATULATE you on that.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:26 am 


PEEJ

Your right, there really is nobody from a PPV stand point. Heck he should fight on regular TV. Like CBS or something. He could definitely pull in some good sponsors and it would definitely do great numbers. More than on HBO I would bet. I think that would be awesome if he did that. And he could do it with Algerie and it would do great numbers

Posted July 9, 2014 1:21 am 


brza da originator

If brook (whos not wit haymon )defeats porter in august he could be available for a fight in december no problem . Bob needs to get creative any more ideas people the boxing commuinity Iis listening n desperate ?

Posted July 9, 2014 1:18 am 


Auzbox

It’s going to do super super poor ppv I think it will struggle to do rios numbers honestly but there was no one else

Posted July 9, 2014 1:16 am 


PEEJ

I know my IQ is superior. Thanks for noting that. And Floyd is fighting a rematch with someone who for some reason some people think he lost to and per the score cards it was a close fight. And will also do better in PPVs this time around to because of the close fight. So what is your point exactly?

Posted July 9, 2014 1:10 am 


PEEJ

How do you take that as defending him? I am just saying he works with other promoters and it doesn’t always go to purse bid. So how is that defending him? By stating a fact?

Posted July 9, 2014 1:08 am 


Boxing 101

High risk fight for Pacquiao.Career ending if he loses.Sky’s the limit if Algieri wins….Arum true puppet master…Pacquiao biggest idiot in boxing history.Would make more money if he left Top Rank…poor puppet.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:02 am 


brza da originator

Ur defending haymon wit his garcia salsa card gtfoh . Lmao how can u try scew that joke into a positive . The reason he went outside his stable for that fight is because his stable is legit n they would all give danny problems . Plus the other promoters r not a big enough threat because none of their scrubs r gettin a victory in that card

Posted July 9, 2014 1:02 am 


Crystal Ball

Oh PEEJ don’t try to detract from your lies and BS with personal insults towards myself, your IQ superior.

FACT: Pacquiao is fighting the man who beat the man he was supposed to fight and lose to.

FACT: Mayweather is fighting the man he has already beaten for another easy, boring, cowardly, running and potshotting UD.

Posted July 9, 2014 1:01 am 


PEEJ

Haymon works with other promoters that don’t go to purse bid. Look at his current card he is putting on with the soft touches. They are all promoted by a different promoter. None of those went to purse bid. I believe the Lomchenko vs Russel fight was a Golden Boy card and they are the ones that did the bidding for that fight. Not Haymon. The promoters do the bidding not the managers.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:54 am 


C.Morgan

Take the money and run Chris!

Posted July 9, 2014 12:53 am 


brza da originator

@peej Haymon n arums stance may well be mutual but it does nt change the fact that bob has r is willing to work wit any other promoter in the business while haymon bar purse bid manditories is not .

Posted July 9, 2014 12:49 am 


brza da originator

@sredmond do u honestly think if maidana was available for the fight that manny would not take it. Think before u post , pac obviously does nt have mays options . Does nt change that this is a bs ppv event

Posted July 9, 2014 12:45 am 


PEEJ

Fact is Algerie wants to fight the best and Pac is up there. Let him get his pay day. As for PPV, folks this is something we have to live with to watch certain fighters fight.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:44 am 


PEEJ

I hate Dan Rafael because he is a Top Rank puppet but he even says Top Rank won’t work with Haymon. lol. I have no clue what Haymon thinks because he doesn’t talk to the press. So hard to get his side of it. But Top Rank has came out and said so and so is with Haymon so that fight is a no go. Why is it a no go? Do they not make offers? What is gonna happen is Haymon is gonna sign so many fighters he may never have to deal with another promoter. He may pull a Dana White which would be bad for business in my opinion.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:42 am 


SREDMOND

Between them, Algieri and Bradley have 21 KO’s MOST at 140 pounds…
Mayweathers last two opponents had 62 KO’s between them… I am happy Algieri is making a buck (Provo must want to kill himself) but this is a fight that’s gonna do TERRIBLE on PPV…

Posted July 9, 2014 12:39 am 


PEEJ

Crystal Ball throwing my name out there again. Can’t seem to keep it out his mouth. I guess he looked into that crystal ball of his and found out he is gonna be a BTICH his whole life. Sorry bro.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:37 am 


brza da originator

Haymon will bot let any of his guys make bob a dollar . U might say so what but al is putting his own interests over his fighters who would get a career high payday n if they got a genuine victory they would be stars

Posted July 9, 2014 12:23 am 


lman

Auzbox – I agree, but it was a proven heavy hitter Maidana with victories over good fighters as opposed to Algeri with a debatable victory over Prov and not much else. Just saying we all know when two certain fighters at the top of the heap fight, who will remain nameless, its inevitable that their recent fights will be compared, seems to me one has on-upped the other and now looks to lose that momentum.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:19 am 


Auzbox

If PAC had fought khan would that of been acceptable. He isn’t undefeated and he isn’t a champion

Posted July 9, 2014 12:17 am 


Auzbox

Maidana beating broner who had one fight at welter before maidana against the lightest puncher in boxing and loud moth malinaggi. Please

Posted July 9, 2014 12:15 am 


Auzbox

Your forgetting PAC will get 20 mill for fighting algieri. If bob and Oscar can sort there differences out then maybe they can get a fight done.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:14 am 


lman

An when I say “someone of relevance” I dont mean Algerie, by beating Prov, I mean someone like Maidana by beating Broner.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:14 am 


Anonymous

Nothing wrong fighting Algeri, in fact, he’s a much better opponent than Rios, besides, when has Pacquiao been in a boring fight? We can’t say that about the other one who claims to be p4p and except for his last fight which he exceedingly miscalculated on, he has fought scrubs, b and c listers. For a guy who charges 70 dollars a pop, he should be more concern with who his opponent is.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:13 am 


Crystal Ball

Peej is making up more lies. Top Rank have never said they won’t work with Haymon. This is PEEJ interpretation of a completely different statement that Top Rank quoted. Of course all of PEEJ interpretations are delusional fantasies that back-up his wrong side of an argument. PEEJ is the a spin doctor of the lowest IQ. He also hates vanilla ice cream.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:13 am 


lman

Or even better, leave Arum..

Posted July 9, 2014 12:11 am 


lman

My question to Manny is why fight if thats the best Arum can do for you. Just retire temporarily until someone of relevance who you can fight makes themselves known to the public with an unlikely win against someone he was supposed to lose to.

Posted July 9, 2014 12:10 am 


Auzbox

Manny been kod once in how long? What puncher you talking about. Ortiz would of been the fight and Herrera went close to beating him. Thurman is floyds mandotary so he was out. Porter is fighting brook

Posted July 9, 2014 12:09 am 


Crystal Ball

I guess Pacquiao needs to fight somebody until Mayweather can shift PEEJ from his ball sack and see if he has any left to accept a fight against Pacquiao. Why is Mayweather so scared of a tiny midget like Pacquiao?

Posted July 9, 2014 12:09 am 


Auzbox

Don’t ad me to the basket. I liked the prov fight and another cotto fight. You would have picked against PAC in the prov fight and if prov couldn’t get chris good luck with PAC

Posted July 9, 2014 12:08 am 


Auzbox

PAC v Bradley did over 800k Marquez wouldn’t make it 1.3 as pacs highest arnt over that. Marquez v Bradley did less than 400k

Posted July 9, 2014 12:06 am 


The Mad Scientist

Auzbox (along with the rest of the pactards) was the one crying about how he didn’t want a Pac/Provo fight because they are such good friends who shared the same trainer..its funny how he don’t seem to have too much of a problem with Pacquiao fighting Algieri as long as Manny is not in harms (good puncher) way..

Posted July 9, 2014 12:06 am 


DLP

Lowest PPV ever for Pacquiao

Posted July 9, 2014 12:05 am 


brza da originator

@Peej How can anyone defend haymon . He obviously stopped ggg chavez n adonis kovalev to stop other promoters makin money . Nard might not even fight adonis n he threw a 40 million number at chavez ffs . An indisciplined fighter lime chavez cud never make that money back for him long term

Posted July 9, 2014 12:05 am 


Auzbox

Haters beware I ask how many catchweights has manny been in?

Posted July 9, 2014 12:05 am 


The Mad Scientist

So Marquez can’t get 20mil for a 5th fight against Pac even if it means boosting Pacquiao’s recent PPV sales by atleast 500,000 buys so in come Algieri..make alot of sense

Posted July 9, 2014 12:00 am 


brza da originator

@ peej do some research haymon very rarely works wit other promoters other than purse bid manditories . Its obvious the guy is lookin to tear boxing down be the last man standing n build it back up . Im no Arum fan but he will work wit other promoters

Posted July 8, 2014 11:59 pm 


hookoffthejab

Sam Soliman talks Sturm, Mundine, Geale, GGG and more …… Youtube it ………..

Posted July 8, 2014 11:57 pm 


PEEJ

Actually Top Rank is the one saying he will not work with Top Rank. I am pretty sure Haymon is willing to work with anybody. Though I have yet to see a quote from Haymon. I have seen quotes from Arum and Top Rank saying they won’t work with Haymon.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:52 pm 


brza da originator

Haymons playin a dangerous game . If he keeps sellin over priced bs fights to espinoza like garcia n salsa hes gonna get fired . The guy showtime replaces espinoza wit is not gonna bend over for al the same way . Hbo r not buyin any more bs fights off al anytime soon either . Expect this guy to crash n burn

Posted July 8, 2014 11:52 pm 


HatersBeWare

@Auzbox– Please take your head out of your “Auz”. No matter what Arum and Pac do- somehow it is a conspiracy created by evil Maywether, Al Haymon, and Golden Boy. Please try and open your eyes to see reality. Arum has no actual faith in pac ability and is afraid to allow him to fight anyone that he does not have an advantage over. With this belt on the line- Pac has another opportunity to add another title to his “fake” catch weight title collection. This is an Arum-Pac created issue blame those who deserve blame.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:52 pm 


Auzbox

Love the sport I agree it was a rubbish decision and this is a rubbish fight but there is literally no fighters in that stable left. But no I disagree PAC should not fight another fighter coming off a loss if there is a tiny bit of hope that the mega fight can still happen. Chris is undefeated and a current champ but for ppv not worthy

Posted July 8, 2014 11:51 pm 


Auzbox

Or haymon won’t work with top rank, Schaffer wouldn’t. It was Schaffer with the beef not bob. Crap fights till something is sorted. I don’t think it’s as easy to sort out as people think. Bob loosing money as the days go on where Oscar prob isn’t

Posted July 8, 2014 11:47 pm 


Zoo

Damn this fight sucks!

Posted July 8, 2014 11:46 pm 


brza da originator

They should just fight ruslan . I know hes comin off a loss but hes way better than chris . I use the eye test n even though he scored for them pitty patty punches ruslan dropped the ball more so than chris takin it

Posted July 8, 2014 11:44 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t think it is the fact that Pac can’t face Golden Boy fighters. Per Oscar the lines are open to negotiate. Problem is Top Rank won’t work with Haymon. And most the top Welters are signed to Haymon.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:39 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Auzbox … are you stupid? NOBODY BELIEVES THAT ALGIERI BEAT PROVODNIKOV.

THE JUDGES WERE (A) NEW YORK JUDGES AND (B) MORONS WHO GAVE ALGIERI CREDIT FOR PITTY PAT PUNCHES.

Provodnikov knocked the guy down. Provodnikov busted up the guys eye. Provodnikov connected with big hooks all night. The judges gave the fight to Algieri.

NOBODY IN THE BOXING COMMUNITY THINKS ALGIERI WON THAT FIGHT AND THEREFORE IT MAKES NO SENSE HE THEN GETS A SHOT AT PACQUIAO.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:37 pm 


Andre PPV

One day, the promised land.

youtube.com/watch?v=EprQGmZ3Imw

Posted July 8, 2014 11:33 pm 


Auzbox

Who else does top rank have? Chris is a champ and PAC can’t fight goldenboy fighters

Posted July 8, 2014 11:30 pm 


Auzbox

It wouldn’t of been a rubbish fight if he fought prov half of you would if picked prov and this guy is better than him.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:28 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Michele Obama has more knockouts than Chris Algieri in both boxing and kickboxing.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:17 pm 


Love-the-Sport

The other rumor is that after Pacquiao vs. Algieri fight that Pacquiao will fight Michele Obama … because Michele Obama is actually both taller, stronger, with more reach and more power than Chris Algieri.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:14 pm 


Love-the-Sport

The rumor is that after the Pacquiao vs. Algeri fight and after the Garcia vs. Salka fight that Pacquiao will fight Rod Salka because Salka is deserving of a chance to fight Manny Pacquiao.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:12 pm 


LMAO

What a garbage fight, this’ll hurt Pac’s legacy if he accepts, which he will because Bob holds his balls.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:06 pm 


?

Hope y’all give this BS as much ridicule as y’all give Floyd. Garbage matchup.

Posted July 8, 2014 11:04 pm 


Wembley

Andre Ward could be on this train first class travel.

youtube.com/watch?v=cl4pJwcE7JI

Posted July 8, 2014 11:04 pm 


brza da originator

Anyone who criticesd may for fightin marcos 1n2 ( I did nt want either ) cannot possibly defend this joke . We got too many people defending their guys no matter not and not enough cats dealing in facts . Not as bad as rod salsa but Its pretty damn bad

Posted July 8, 2014 11:03 pm 


demigawd

The people have demanded that Pacquiao fight a slick boxer

The people have demanded that Pacquiao fight a fighter in his prime

The people have demanded that Pacquiao fight a fighter undefeated and coming off a big win

Well, there you have it. Don’t say Uncle Bob has never done anything for the people…

Posted July 8, 2014 10:59 pm 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

LOL……I’m at a loss for words…..

Posted July 8, 2014 10:57 pm 


Tachyon

Pulling fighters out of the trash bin for Pac lol man what a joke.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:55 pm 


Auzbox

Poor fight but unless arum hurrys to sort this crap out top rank will be terrible for big fights and ppv numbers.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:52 pm 


third world

sad state of affairs.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:45 pm 


brza da originator

Provs corner left him down . Props to the algeri kod he did the one thing he did to give him a chance but my eyes tell me any of the elite guys beat him easily by hust usin head movement n angles . Plus against pac he will be on his bike all night so we might nt even see a knockout smh

Posted July 8, 2014 10:44 pm 


breal

maidana vs pac would be an okay fight.. .Just saying..

Posted July 8, 2014 10:43 pm 


breal

as long as floyd MAY is arournd, things like this will continue to happen…. GOLDEN BOY, PLEASE SAFE BOXING!!!

Posted July 8, 2014 10:42 pm 


brza da originator

Hes fightin the guy provo beat but if provo had any kind of boxing iq it should have been impossible to lose that fight . Algeris amatuer style of flickin out the jab while scoring was having such little affect on prov he was nt even tryna move his head n all the while lookin for the big shot . Provs corner

Posted July 8, 2014 10:41 pm 


Auzbox

Terrible numbers it will do. Lucky to beat the rios numbers and the undercard would have to have prov and mikey

Posted July 8, 2014 10:38 pm 


brza da originator

Oh bob say it isn t so haha . As far as i know manny is garaunteed 17 mil so either bob goes for broke n stacks the undercard or more than likely hes gonna spend as little as possible n just cut his losses . Without doubt pacquaios most bs ppv ever . Very dissapointing

Posted July 8, 2014 10:35 pm 


Tomato Can

:)

Posted July 8, 2014 10:24 pm 


PEEJ

Not even sure if Porter or Thurman or Garcia are with Golden Boy. But they are with Haymon and Top Rank doesn’t work with Haymon. But that is ok. It is only a problem for Floyd since he doesn’t work with Arum. lol

Posted July 8, 2014 10:21 pm 


PEEJ

Wait I thought Golden Boy and Top Rank are willing to work together. What is happening? I thought there was talks of Pac vs Canelo. I am confused now. lol

Posted July 8, 2014 10:20 pm 


juggernaut

Arum is destroying pacquiao’s career. This fight will draw even less numbers than the one Vs. Rios

Posted July 8, 2014 10:19 pm 


Al Haymon

youtube.com/watch?v=uq-gYOrU8bA

Posted July 8, 2014 10:18 pm 


REM

NOOOOOOOO lol hope this is an easy one leading up to the “big surprise” in 5/15.

Posted July 8, 2014 10:15 pm 


Auzbox

Everyone quick to judge but who else is with top rank? It was prov or Marquez and Marquez wanted no testing and 20 mill. Bradley was a top 3 p4p and we have seen that twice also

Posted July 8, 2014 10:02 pm 


Auzbox

Thurman is a goldenboy fighter and so is Garcia so those fights can’t happen until bob and Oscar sort it out. Everyone said PAC was going to be beat or kod by prov and now he has been beaten he is facing the guy that took him out

Posted July 8, 2014 9:59 pm 


PEEJ

So Pac doesn’t want to fight Thurman or Porter? Maybe Garcia? What in the world, this can’t be true. Doesn’t want to go to 154 and fight anybody. No way.

Posted July 8, 2014 9:40 pm 


big moe

Justification coming from Pac fans in 3…2…1…

Algieri will jump on it because hes getting a huge pay day.

Posted July 8, 2014 9:38 pm 


Papo

It makes sense to setup a match between Algieri and Pac as soon as possible to cash in Algieri’s surprise win over Provo. It’s all about timing. Algieri may not be well-known, but he beat the guy that was lined up to make a run for Pac’s supremacy. I’m sure Arum is trusting boxing fans still have Algieri’s win over Provo fresh in their mind.

Posted July 8, 2014 9:24 pm 


No joke

youtube.com/watch?v=h0G1Ucw5HDg

Posted July 8, 2014 9:04 pm 


badger

agree with prof. this is a joke right?

Posted July 8, 2014 8:57 pm 


No joke

Ward should travel, he would be a big deal, if he chose to Box away, promoters, you just get the fights done.

Posted July 8, 2014 8:54 pm 


WHAT!?!

Oh Wow!! Pacquiao will destroy Algieri within 6 painful rounds. Algieri showed some toughness against Provo but Pacman hits with a lot more accuracy.

Posted July 8, 2014 8:54 pm 


Prof Konje

Arum couldn’t find anyone else? Algieri is a fine boxer, but not a puncher. Why doesn’t Arum put Pacquaio in with someone who will compete? I already know the answer and so do others.

Posted July 8, 2014 8:45 pm 


A. Low

Man the pac man will kill him

Posted July 8, 2014 8:41 pm 



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