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TARK

You’re not Canelo stupid ass… The only reason anyone would run from you is you’re so damned ugly you have to impersonate people on the Internet.

Lara didn’t run… He boxed… Anyone who says he ran is a liar.

Posted July 19, 2014 7:22 pm 


D

you need feet in boxing stupid. its a sport where you maneuver in and out and around. whoever uses the 400 sq ft to his best advantage wins the fight

otherwise make the ring 4’X4′ and give them 16 sq ft to compete in. you’ll have nothing but sluggers competing.

Posted July 18, 2014 3:37 pm 


D 2000

GTFOH…that fight was a stinker, you heard the crowd booing. Paid fifty dollars to whatch Lara bicycle all over the dam ring. Like Gamboa vs Crawford, Floyd vs Maidana I, PacMan vs Marquez IV, Garcia vs. Mathysee, that’s getting your money worth! Not that Cuban track star crap…I didn’t like it and neither did the judges!!!!

Posted July 18, 2014 3:48 am 


D

a track meet is were guys compete in running. lara wasn’t running. he was using footwork, which is allowed. he was boxing rings around canelo and punching the crap out of him whild canelo was stuck in the mud

Posted July 18, 2014 1:41 am 


Woods

Corruption?? The only corruption was we paid to see a good fight, and ended up watching a track meet..

Posted July 17, 2014 4:50 am 


Mexican Corruption Destroying USA Boxing

Mexican Corruption is Destroying USA Boxing.. When you have A Corrupt Mexican Boxing Sanchioning body, A Corrupt Drug Addicted Mexican Boxing Promoter, A corrupt Mexican Judge giving the Bogus Win after Bogus wins to their Favorite Mexican Boxers you know it’s time for the USA to take a second look at our beloved Sport.. The Days of Boxing Fans respecting and appreciating the Sweet Science, the Sport where Hit and avoid getting hit ruled are being replaced by who is the toughest and can take the most punches to the Face contests, USA Boxing is becoming just a Tijuana Cantina Drunk Tough man Contest…

Posted July 16, 2014 1:02 pm 


WREAK

Theon are you stupid or something? when Ali 36 was stopped by Larry Holmes he was old and washed up. Dam he was only the HW champ and 22. and had been boxing since 12…gtfoh.

Posted July 16, 2014 12:18 pm 


SLIM

Andre Berto is a bum…and whoever said “Floyd’s boxing style sucks” is sniffing glue! You don’t get to be the #1 pound per pound fighter on the planet with a unflattering boxing style, that’s for sure.

Posted July 16, 2014 5:14 am 


B E A R S

good posting theon

Posted July 15, 2014 1:37 pm 


Theon

This is the third time and different article I’ve had to chase you up about this now?

Posted July 15, 2014 1:16 pm 


Theon

Are you going to keep on ducking answering these questions SREDMOND?

Posted July 15, 2014 1:14 pm 


Theon

Anonymous

You mocked Gatti for ‘quitting’ on his stool against Floyd, but when I pointed out to you that Ali did the same against Holmes when he was past his best you replied with this.

SREDMOND

‘Ali’s corner took him outta the ring against Holmes who is an ATG HW who was in his prime.. Ali was not getting knocked out by guys like Alfonso Gomez or Baldomir even as an OLD man’

To which I responded back at you with

‘What do you mean Ali’s corner pulled him out against Holmes? How is that not the same as what transpired in Gatti vs Floyd?

Did you even watch the fight? It was Gatti’s corner who pulled him out.’

Gatti didn’t quit against Floyd. His trainer Buddy McGirt pulled him out.

It was exactly the same as what transpired in the Ali vs Holmes fight. How could you not know that if you were a fan of Gatti’s?

But moreover, how can anyone least of all a ‘Gatti fan’ ever question Gatti’s heart or speak in a mocking tone about him quitting against Floyd when that wasn’t even what transpired?

Posted July 12, 2014 11:06 am

Anonymous

What kind of person would say these types of things about a fighter they supposedly meant to be a fan of and had a lot of respect for?

And say them on a remembrance article celebrating the 5th anniversary of the tragic death of the fighter?

SREDMOND

Gatti hung himself while a quivering Ali is still a LEGEND who has his own museum and was only stopped ONCE by an ATG fighter in his prime… Gatti was a lot of fun but WHAT GREAT or former Elite fighter did he beat? “Joey Gamache”

SREDMOND

I like Gatti but getting BEATDOWN does not make you a more gutty guy, sometimes it means you are INEPT… And where was the famed Gatti heart when he had to retire on his stool against Mayweather in 6 rounds… Like Roy Jones said “Too much SPEED” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

SREDMOND

No the point is that Gatti was too inept at that point to defeat Baldy, and he was stopped which was SAD because Baldy is not a big puncher…Mayweather simply boxed Baldy mindless spotting him 9 pounds as I recall and moved on with life… Gatti got smashed it was Pathetic!

Posted July 12, 2014 10:57 am

Anonymous

You’re no Gatti fan. That couldn’t have been any more self-evident to anyone following your comments on that article.

As another poster pointed out to you, why would you reference his loses against Baldomir and Gomez if you were a fan of his?

This is what you said in your initial post on that article.

‘Arturo booked losses to the Baldomirs, Gomez, and Wards of the boxing World’.

You never reference the past prime or shot loses of any of the boxers you’re genuinely fond of so why do it with Gatti?

Roy Jones doesn’t get that treatment from you. According to you Jones was past it after beating Ruiz. Don’t you think that’s a little strange considering he still met all the criteria you’d use to adjudge Gatti not being past it when he fought Floyd?

He still held a belt when Tarver knocked him out.

He’d been on a run of 15 straight wins compared to Gatti’s 5.

He’d also absorbed a tiny fraction of the punishment and cumulative damage Gatti had soaked up during his career.

Your argument that Gatti wasn’t past it when he fought Floyd hinges on that criteria so why doesn’t that same criteria also apply to Jones or any of the other boxers that you’re a real fan of?

Posted July 12, 2014 10:54 am

Anonymous

Another tactic you use all the time to weasel out from answering difficult questions is your continuous use of straw man arguments.

You’ll spend half a page arguing with someone about something they haven’t even said or even implied to avoid providing an answer to the real questions they’ve been trying to get out of you for ages.

That’s what you did on the Gatti article and when I persisted with trying to get an answer out of you and backed you into a corner, you did your disappearing act again.

Posted July 12, 2014 10:46 am

Anonymous

SREDMOND why are you being so hostile and defensive? I’ve been civil with you so why get all tetchy when all I’m asking you to do is give me an answer to a few simple questions?

The only reason I’m badgering you about answering these questions here is because you kept ducking them on the other article. You always do that when someone backs you into a corner, because you know that answering them will expose your lies.

You’re more than happy to enter into lengthy discussions with me until I force you into an uncomfortable position.

It’s at that juncture you beat a hasty retreat and start accusing me of being a coward because I have no screen ID. Me not having a screen ID only becomes an issue for you when I back you into a corner. It’s never a problem for you up until that point.

It’s just a lame ploy to weasel out of answering difficult and uncomfortable questions.

Posted July 12, 2014 10:43 am

Posted July 15, 2014 1:13 pm 


boxerpuncher

Didn’t even bother to read the article as soon as I saw Slaters name attached to it …

Posted July 15, 2014 3:33 am 


dick tiger

Canelo vs Golovkin at i60lbs for the middleweight title is a fight that I would be more than happy to pay to see. For some fans a lot of questions about both fighters would be answered. I think Golovkin is a very good fighter with a real chance of being great. Time is not on his side. His promoters need to step on the gas and make the fights that will give him a chance at greatness.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:36 am 


BEARS

yeah sredmonds brain is putrid.

lets see canelo vs quillin to caneo vs cotto, to canelo vs 3g!! style wise this is AWESOME

Posted July 15, 2014 2:24 am 


TARK

Sredmond.., “Golovkins best night was Macklin beyond that his resume is pretty putrid”

Your brain is putrid.. Golovkin has been calling out the best in the division for years.. He won 11 or 12 world title fights just waiting for the other world champions to fight him.. He can only fight guys who are willing.. The top guys at that weight are scared to death of him.

Same senario with Kovalev.. Nobody wants to fight him. I don’t believe Hopkins’ lies that he would fight him — or Stevenson’s.. I wonder how easy it will be for Lomachenko to get the top featherweights to face him. Even though the man has only 3 professional fights — and there’s no possible way he can be fully adapted to the pro ranks.

Where is Rigondeaux’s next top opponent going to come from at 122? Curious, because there’s some good fighters at those weights.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:06 am 


TBD-Return of the King

love the sport let me first start by letting you know that your soft. you write about rt and have never attended a figjt spomen to a boxer or interview anyone. your a couch blogger. Im not even going to reveal who i am until my next article but know this toy know nothing about the sweet scienceI can tell by you attitude and lack of knowledge. All you bloggers beware. Unless you have every states boxing regs, have checked with our corrupt sanctioning bodies or have a direct line to the fighters themselves please stfu. Your opinion means nothing without knowledge behi.d it. I thought I knew how to call a fight until I sat front row and was able to see why compubox is used. Until I was with a fighter before during and after a fight. Until I understood I was unable to write about men who gave teal actual nlood sweat and tears for the sport they love only to leave the decision to a non perfect person. Many of you make reckless comments with no regard for consequences well that has changed dont embarrass yourself or the sport with your idiotic comments and attacks. Most of you don’t know $hit about boxing have never boxed or been to a fight and would not want to be a real journalist and be subject to a beatdown for a reckless comment or article…truth does hurt I await any dog that was hit by this to holler so that I may consume you.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:30 pm 


Rt

Overrated, flat footed, scared to move up to the proper weight class. Canelo has a lot of work to do to improve. Oscar dressing up like a woman to bribe judges. What has boxing become?

The Canelo loss list, Part#1

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather – L
Lara – L
Trout – Draw

GGG – L (KO)
Cotto – L
Pacquiao – L
Andrade – L
Thurman – L

Posted July 14, 2014 10:13 pm 


DaTruth ass Hurtzzz

Ladren PERROS! Canelo won! The only thing Lara showed Canelo was how NOT to impress the judges…haha

Posted July 14, 2014 8:56 pm 


Sellout Ref let Maidana use MMA to NO avail

MMA tactics got SCHOOLED. Learn how to land clean shots to the FRONT of the FACE and to the body. IF you don’t know how to DO that then go get you some target practice. Go put you some Bullseyes on the Heavy bag where the front of the FACE and the torso would BE.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:39 pm 


Sellout Mex Judge gave Canelo the Win

The Sellout Judge, Levi Martinez who gave Canelo a 117 – 111 outrageous Victory is Mexican.. what else do you need to know??? LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 7:38 pm 


Anonymous

Bears. A serious question. Are you g-a-y? You use certain phrases and tones that suggest that you are. Nothing wrong in being a big mama, but just wondered if you’d like to come clean?

Posted July 14, 2014 7:27 pm 


Boxtradamus

SAME reason that he won’t Fight Ward.

Posted July 14, 2014 6:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Fightme, I have no clue how good GGG really is, he has not fought ANYONE absent a banged up Macklin..

Posted July 14, 2014 4:56 pm 


fightme

Oh ok sred. I thought you were saying that Berto’s skills were better than triple G’s. I knew nobody could be that retarded.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:51 pm 


SREDMOND

AGAIN as far as level of competition I want to know whats so impressive about his level of foe??? Golovkins best night was Macklin beyond that his resume is pretty putrid… Bears cannot reconcile this when he discusses “scalp value”

Posted July 14, 2014 4:41 pm 


fightme

Nobody in here is seriously comparing Berto to GGG right? You would have to have an IQ of 2 or have your head so far up your @ss to even begin to compare GGG to Berto.If Berto is a bicycle then GGG is a F-86 sabre when comparing the skill level of the two.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, I will take your last post as an OBVIOUS concession you simply don’t have the ammo to back up or support the trash you are trying to sell..ie Canelo is taking $$$ of of FMJ’s pocket 32 million vs 1.5 mill 2.) Floyd should fight Lara as the LOSER of this contest 3.) You have not done anything to mute your hypocrisy as it pertains to GGG’s resume vs Bertos.. AGAIN you are a JOKE of a poster willing to make any wild claims… OH I forgot, Mayweather and Algieri would be “interesting” in your book… Sensless FOOL

Posted July 14, 2014 4:14 pm 


B E A R S

i pissed in your eyes son. just re read the posts over and over.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:55 pm 


PEEJ

Old Coot you better go watch the Marquez vs Pac fights again. Marquez rocked Pac plenty of times. Did he get knocked down no he didn’t, was he hurt yes he was. Now they go up in weight, there is more weight behind Marquez punches and he cracks him with what??? a right hand again and boom he is knocked down and then boom he is KOd. Yall keep saying Pac was on his way to KOing Marquez yet he couldn’t do it in the previous 3 so what in the world would make him do it in the the 4th?

Posted July 14, 2014 3:41 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you still have not explained how GGG’s resume is so superior to Bertos? I mean you give GGG a HUGE pass of the level of his foes when he has been waxing SCRUBS…I mean guys with NO NAME

Posted July 14, 2014 3:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Yeah Bears, Canelo is really “hitting Floyd in the pockets” as Mayweather makes 85 mill in 2012 and 105 mill in 2013… Damn that Canelo is killing him LMAO!!! If Floyd tells Oscar he is fighting on Cinco De Mayo, Alvarez will be shutdown and there is no 2 ways about it…$$$$$$$ talks Hill Billy! You should know that after your incarceration for missing your Child Support Payments..

Posted July 14, 2014 3:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, AGAIN you pick the WRONG arguments! Floyd is the most successful fighter financially in history.. Only he and Tiger Woods made over 100 mill from Sports in a single year… Canelo is doing very well for his age but since his Mayweather fight his purses have dropped something like 1300% he made 17mill against FMJ, NOW 1.5 mill its not even close as to who is the BOSS…!

Posted July 14, 2014 3:20 pm 


Hecdog

Lara won the fight IMHO as I have mentioned a few times, but others don’t want to see it that way. I have watched the fight over several times without bias and trying to even give Canelo as Many rounds as I could to give him the benefit of the doubt and it does not work. Please turn off the volume, score the fight by the following criteria: Clean Punching (Lara), Ring Generalship (Lara), Defense (Lara) Effective Agressiveness (Canelo was not effective) The punch numbers favored Lara. Canelo landed 24 head punches in 12 rounds?? I like Canelo as I have said and think he is going to be a great fighter one day, but he lost the fight. The Canelo crowd changes how they see punches when they are cheering at every punch Canelo throws even if he misses by a mile. Those Body punches were in just 2-3 rounds and many of them were caught on the arms and were not clean. I watched in slow motion. Lara, even though he didn’t throw a million punches, didn’t need to because they were so clean and crisp. The crowd was in awe throughout the fight. They were begging for Canelo to do anything, but Lara had them all tamed like a bunch of kittens. Lara’s defense, which includes moving, slipping, blocking and weaving is CRITERIA used to score each round. It was up to Canelo to find a strategy to stop Lara from doing those things like cut off the ring , and he didn’t. Lara had total control of the fight, and Canelo was desperate. Did you not see him miss by a mile. Lara moved right and Canelo was moving left. The man was confused and just plodded forward swinging for the fences. Lara was calm. cool and collected and he was a sharp shooter landing the jab, straight left to the head and body. Lara controlled the style and pace of the fight. Clean punches from Lara, Beautiful Ring generalship from Lara, Fantastic Defense from Lara and Canelo’s inability to use his Aggressiveness effectively all point to the obvious. Lara is the winner of this fight. Unfortunately, as real boxing fans know. The Cash Cow that has the big promoter(GBP/Oscar) in his pocket will rarely if ever lose a fight when he has a country (Mexico) behind him, and his fans come to pay their money to see him. They are doing a fabulous job of promoting Canelo. He’s slowly making the crossover to the USA fans. They market him on being the Red Headed, light skinned Mexican that is the greatest young fighter in history. Promoters will go at any lengths to make a connection between the young lion and the fans, which I guess is a smart move on there part, but in a fight, his opponents must not just beat him, but practically knock him out. This fight was a mere image of Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Whitaker dominated him in every way, but still lost because he was the boxer and used movement and defense instead of just slug it out. History always repeats itself. The sport will continue to be corrupt as long as fans let them do what they want.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:14 pm 


fightme

If Canelo has any sense he will do everything he can to get Cotto in the ring cuz that is a fight at MW the he can win by KO without taking to much damage.I like Cotto but he cant stay at that weight because he is to small and does not have the power to compete with those guys.Yes he beat a no-knee past his best Martinez but If Sergio had fought GGG that night it wouldn’t have went past the first round.GGG would have brutally KOed Sergio.Cotto will be kept as far away from GGG as possible.Hell he will prolly be kept away from Quillen and Canelo also. Please someone tell me that Cotto isn’t seriously thinking of fighting T. Bradley next? That was a joke right? Has to be because if it is true then these catch weight fights have just made the sport of boxing a joke. Whats next, Wlad fighting Guillermo Rigondeaux at a catch weight of 147 lbs for the HW straps? But coming back on topic of Canelo. He can and will dominate Cotto if they should meet but can he beat the other real sized middle weights? He would beat Kirkland by KO in 5 but I think it would be good while it lasted.It would be 50/50 on the Quillen fight.he would get blasted in 3 by GGG.There is a reason why Quillen,Martinez, and the other MWs are avoiding this guy.He is a beast and will rule the MW division as long as he stays there,that’s if the other MWs out there will even get into the ring with him.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:48 pm 


Bro

Sredmond is g@y that’s why he is 24/7 on this site. His sista

VICKI confirmed that. She’s beautiful btw. Is she really you

sista???

Posted July 14, 2014 2:45 pm 


B E A R S

where mexican fanbase goes so goes the money at least a sizeable portion of it and im sure they would pick canelo.

this kid at his age is making more than fraud had when fraud was his age. we have no idea the heights that coming for canelo both in professional boxing and monetarily.

canelo taking back mexican holidays (which by all rights he should) would def hit mayweather in his pocket book

i love the idea frankly

Posted July 14, 2014 2:43 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, “Canelo putting economic sanctions on Mayweather” ANOTHER classically ridiculous statement! Alvarez just go a base guarantee of 1.5 million for Lara meanwhile Floyd gets 32 million MINIMUM….The undercard fighters on the Maidana bout made as much as Canelo did (Khan and Broner)….. Floyd Mayweather made MORE last year than Alvarez is gonna make in his entire career 105 million, I like Canelo think he may have a good future but he has NOT been dominant against his better foes, LOSS to Floyd close wins against Lara and Trout he’s not on FMJ’s level and NEVER will be… AGAIN Bears explain to us how Bertos record is so inferior to Golovkins? who has barely fought anyone World Class??

Posted July 14, 2014 2:38 pm 


SREDMOND

Fight Aficionado, you and Bears are GROSSLY under qualified to control my content and you BOTH will be dictated to, controlled, cajoled, angered and manipulated… Continue in your assigned roles as SREDMOND subordinates! It is the ONLY job available to either of you! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted July 14, 2014 2:35 pm 


Anonymous

get redmond out of here. he “didnt see this contest” but he spams these threads with his man love for gayweather. biggest bum on the site.

and bears…….yes you are fat.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:30 pm 


B E A R S

hell no im not

recent cAnelo headlines however have mentioned fraud may

canelo wants to take back the mexican holidays!

this might spurn some in house fighting at goldon boy!

this like canelo putting economic sanctions on mayweather! i hope it happens!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 2:24 pm 


BEARS is a fat, unemployed loser.

BEARS is here to turn a Canelo-Lara thread into a Floyd Mayweather thread!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 2:14 pm 


Fight Aficionado

SREDMOND aka Supreme Court is here to turn a Canelo-Lara thread into one that slurps Floyd Mayweather’s balls and disses Wlad K. You post the same crap every week regardless of topic. Stay on topic or GTFO. Or better yet, get a life, loser.

Posted July 14, 2014 1:59 pm 


BEARS’N’ SRED you must be unemployed to have time to write all the madness you do.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 1:55 pm 


B E A R S

3g And lara are LIGHT YEARS beyond/greater than berto, guerrero, and ortiz. i still cant believe you actually wanna claim otherwise.

this is precisely why you should watch fights instead of troll threads sack slurping. you look like an imbecile

Posted July 14, 2014 1:54 pm 


B E A R S

redmond talked up berto and dismissed both 3g and lara in a futile attempt to get scalp value for fraud mAyweathers opponents ortiz and guerrero.

this troll will do whatever he can for fraud mayweather!!!!!

he will talk up bum fluff and trash to awesome fighters.

berto, guerrero, ortiz-bum fluff

3g, lara- awesome boxers

sredmonds views

berto guerrero ortiz > lara and 3g

bahahahahahaha

Posted July 14, 2014 1:44 pm 


B E A R S

3g brutally and utterly destroyed rosado who beat korass a$$ who nailed the final nail in bertos coffin stopping him. your kinda talking outta your a$$ again. berto may impress u more than 3g does but thats why your regarded as a narrow-minded troll.

im simply gonna leave with u calling berto greater than 3g. i dont think you could damage your rep worse today. we are done for now

Posted July 14, 2014 1:36 pm 


B E A R S

i hVe not forgotten lara at all and no his stock did not get dinged hard vs canelo. we know what lara is capable of. lots of people actually gAve lara that fight. no larS stock was not destroyed by any means and any red blooded fan knows lara can box. dudes a formidable foe

As i said i would take lara to defeat fraud at his own game. from perspective its all that matters. from your slack slurping vantage point your trolling talking about how much money fraud would make your not talking about fighting. your a troll dude

Posted July 14, 2014 1:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Wlad thrives off sub World Class fighters as of late! Pianeta, Wach, Mormeck, Lepai… Who was Canelo beating before Trout and now Lara?? A lot of former WW’s…. Bertos resume was a DAMN sight better than Golovkins and you treat him like he is beating serious comp…HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH HYPOCRITE

Posted July 14, 2014 1:27 pm 


B E A R S

correct berto had for the most thrived on bum fluff and was winning.

your error is the value u have attributed to that. you keep repeating yourself and i keep pissing in your eyes. im running out of urine here slurpy redmond.

Posted July 14, 2014 1:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Ok Bears so you have NOT discussed wanting Porter and Thurman like your boy Tark? Seriously Lara is NOW a forgotten man relative to the upper echelon he got a chance to skyrocket his stock and apparently did not do it… Mayweather does not face boxers off losses, he needed a BIG win and he failed its OVER Bears… Khan is not facing Mayweather as of today so that’s just childish conjecture on your part… Next up Maidana who YOU think beat Floyd but apparently you think is gonna get BEAT up this go round?? Nothing is working the P4P King is 46-0 and he is closing in on an Undefeated SUPER Rich Retirement meanwhile guys like Vitali are GONE, FORGOTTEN and NOT missed….105 million says that FMJ is the BOSSSSSSSSS!!

Posted July 14, 2014 1:21 pm 


B E A R S

i cant even comment on your weird logic or how your mind got to the point that i somehow talked up fraud mayweather. that last post of yours was warped as all hell to say the least.

i first and foremost WATCH FIGHTS and rely on that tale to make my inferences. not what somebody else says. not based on a title one of four sanctioning bodies bestows on a dude

thats just me. i think the key is to watch fights. see thAts where you and i differ. you think the key is to slurp sack and troll east side threads talkn out your a$$

thats why dudes like me piss in your eyes

Posted July 14, 2014 1:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Berto was winning when both Ortiz and Guerrero beat him that cannot be changed… Lara is NOT suitable he LOST to a guy that Mayweather schooled it makes NO sense you proposing the fight but then again you are the SAME idiot who swears on a bible that Algieri lost BUT you think that Floyd should face a guy like that he is NOT PPV worthy… Pacquiao is getting laughed at for considering him as an opponent, nice kid but he was a club fighter in Huntington NY not long ago… Shows where Provo is in terms of his game

Posted July 14, 2014 1:17 pm 


B E A R S

everyone know i was not talking up thurman. maybe over a mere con when it comes to scalp value. at this juncture.

i dont talk up thurman in any way. u cant furnish a post of mine claiming otherwise cause your in fabrication desperation mode now after i pissed in your eyes. damn your lookin bad today

i mean the only advice i can give u is to actually watch fights instead of slurp sack and troll threads

when u learn to do thAt u might learn to talk boxing then we can talk. kinda like canelo told lara when u learn to fight wecan have a rematch

u got smoked son. i love it you initiate desperation fabrication mode Nd start making sh!t up about posters who just stomped a mud hole in your a$$

Posted July 14, 2014 1:16 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Mayweather is NOT fighting Khan he is facing Maidana and YES as of now Lara’s “perceived scalp value” is LOW for Mayweather… He LOST and he LOST to a guy that Floyd schooled he is NEVER gonna earn the fight to fight Floyd at this point… His next bout is gonna be against a MUCH lessor talent than Canelo in order to get back on track… Floyd has 2 bouts after Maidana and a Lara is out of the running… Again you have been destroyed!

Posted July 14, 2014 1:11 pm 


B E A R S

slurpy redmond just talked up berto and dismissed lara!!!!!!

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!

what an idiot!!

Posted July 14, 2014 1:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, but you were talking up Thurman and one of his BEST wins was the VERY tough Soto Karass!! Soooooo I guess that Thurman is off the list and so is Porter and Pac Man? Both Porter and Pacquiao ONLY have “trinkets” according to what you say!!!!! The MOST respected designation in boxing is the “Ring Championship” and the Ring Champ at 147 and 154 is Floyd Mayweather Jr!!! So that said by denouncing the accomplishments of other boxers as far as hardware you by default support the widely held view that Mayweather is the best boxer in the WORLD! That’s what you are saying Bears, THANKS FOR MAKING MY POINT!!!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 1:09 pm 


B E A R S

*you clearly have no penchant for understanding the scalp value of fighters with your gross over estimation of berto

Posted July 14, 2014 1:06 pm 


B E A R S

floyd was gonna fight PEDerson victim a mere con in his last fight. it was b/w him and the other cherry maidana. their still discussing the a mere con bout. IT IS A REALITY REDMOND! NEWSFLASH!!

how many people victimized kahn? bad? u talk outta your a$$ sack slurper. the heavily victimized kahn was on the table with his plummeted stock and scalp value.

laras scalp value has not been destroyed like kahns. people are gonna actually pick lara to win future fights i would pick lara over fraud. but im not a sack slurping troll. i know boxing. and i know the canelo vs lara decision has absolutely no effect on how a bout with lara vs fraud woukd turn out

dude u are a none fight watching troll

lol

Posted July 14, 2014 1:04 pm 


B E A R S

berto had a trinket. trinkets dont spell greatness in fact no trinket was on the line saturday night in canelo vs lara.

i think thats what your saying because berto’s ACTUAL/REAL resume is garbage he is not close to awesome. there is nothing about berto that made him highly touted. notoriety came from ped use.

soto karass has lost to pretty much everyone and their brother. 10 losses.

the guy stopped berto and put the final nail in his coffin. and u were gonna piss on who with your griss over estimation of bertos scalp value?

your just a phukn troll talkn out his a$$. you dont even watch the fights. you clearly dont have any ornchant for understanding the scalp value if fighters as i just showed here.

you are bum fluff slurpy redmond and you are DISMISSED.

you may try your futile multi posting now. but it cant help u. your just a sack slurpin bum who clearly knows nothing other than narrow-minded sack slurpin. your posts have been shown to be value-less.

you must not have watched berto’s last fight vs korass. you should try to keep abreast of fighters u wanna pretend like you can discuss

thAnks for sitting their letting me urinate in your eyes.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, your train of thought is utterly bizarre…. Basically “Floyd should fight the LOSER of Alvarez vs Lara” yeah that makes a TON of sense..!

Posted July 14, 2014 12:56 pm 


Anonymous

Lara. a complete hype Job.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather is NOT signed to fight Khan that’s a fantasy in your head… He is facing Maidana who YOU claim “Beat him” you should be happy!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted July 14, 2014 12:44 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, NO one is gonna be writing about “Floyd should fight Lara” he LOST its over for him unless he does something spectacular… Its ALSO bad that he lost to a guy that Floyd beat EASILY… Lara has NO fans and no PPV appeal PLUS he lost his next contest might be a Molina rematch or something else to get on track… Mayweather is not fighting a Canelo leftover when Canelo is a FLOYD leftover… Meanwhile Canelo fought Mosley LONG after Floyd schooled him… Mayweather is ALWAYS the better fighter Lara as of today is a loser who needs to book a win… He is whining about rematching Canelo SMH

Posted July 14, 2014 12:43 pm 


B E A R S

if i was a fraud sack slurper i would want him as far from lara as possible too like sredmond

i would want him fighting the a mere cons of the world like he intends on doing.

how does a sack slurper go to great lengths to dismiss a similar style to frauds clearly a good boxer in lara to rationalizing a mere con as a bette matchup?

you know how!!! these sack sluroers and fraud himself are so scared of a loss at this point their talking a mere con.

cant fight lara but kahn, now theres a fight we can make. GTFO

Posted July 14, 2014 12:42 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Berto was a 2x World Champion MEANWHILE you are hyping Porter with your fellow rectal thermometer Tark because he beat Paulie Malignaggi who has 7 losses and was stopped 3x before Porter beat him… Paulie is a gutty fighter but he could not hurt a fly… Why are you so dismissive of the version of Berto defeated by Ortiz and Guerrero? up till that point Berto had NEVER been stopped and was I believe undefeated when Ortiz upset him for the belt in an FOTY candidate and had one loss when Guerrero moved up and beat him in an FOTY candidate….???? See how your contradictions allow me to piss on you AGAIN???HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 12:40 pm 


B E A R S

are u claiming lara can not beat fraud mayweather based on canelo vs kara a bout u just said u have not watched even!!!!

WOW!!! somebody ban this sack skurping troll!!!! dude cant talk boxing just fraud sack slurping

slurpy redmond u are one dense puppy

actually trying to say a case cannot be made for a the 154 pound champ lara vs fraud mayweather bout. does that actually work in the mind of some ofnu phuk heads like sredmond?

as if fraud can piggy- back off canelos win over lara?

BAHAHAHAHAHA

this dude is dense. not even a crafty deffense of frauds ducking from the fraud sack slurper who has not seen canelo vs lara

Posted July 14, 2014 12:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, “Floyd style sucks” really Bears? hmmmmmmm why not tell Canelo that I have that bout recorded and FMJ stood in the pocket and boxed that boy silly RIGHT in front of him slamming those right hands into his head… His style is “So Bad” he is the highest paid athlete on the planet so MORE people agree with me than you by a countrymile…Floyd facing Lara off a loss is plain STUPID to suggest and really solidifies you as having a LOW boxing IQ… Lara had a chance to make a statement and apparently did not get the job done… Too bad so Sad! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Posted July 14, 2014 12:36 pm 


LOL

If Lara goes back to school,he could be as Great as kell brook.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:29 pm 


B E A R S

your selling ortiz and guerrero beating berto. lol

cool this convo clearly stops their you are a joke

Posted July 14, 2014 12:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, FMJ faced Baldomir because he was the lineal WW Champion having beat/upset Judah, THEN Floyd went and schooled Judah and made him bleed and start swinging for the nuts…Again NO ONE wants to see Lara against Mayweather he needed to look impressive against Canelo and WIN in order to have consideration… It ain’t happening! As for losses you are blowing Manny who is a GREAT fighter but faced a SUPER washed up version of Shane who had not won in 2 years, Hatton had already been stopped by FMJ and Mayweather outboxed ODH at 154 BEFORE Manny beat him down, Marquez got clowned while 5 fights later Pac still cannot get a strong win against OLD azz Marquez…46-0 Ring Champ 2 weights, P4P best in the World… Meanwhile we still don’t know if Pac can beat a soon to be 41 year old Marquez

Posted July 14, 2014 12:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you are proposing that Mayweather fights Lara off a LOSS… Mayweather has been fighting guys off WINS and Big ones at that Ortiz biggest win of his life, Guerrero biggest win of his life, Mosley one of the biggest wins of his life, Canelo one of the biggest fights of his life… Suggesting he fights Lara off a LOSS or Algieri who is NOT even within 1000 miles of his league is laughable and shows you are just an idiot vainly seeking throw S#$T at the wall and see what sticks… The logical statement would be FMJ vs Canelo but the public already knows Alvarez cannot hang with Floyd…

Posted July 14, 2014 12:15 pm 


Mayweathertheone

BEARS the tubby muffin can’t be serious!!!!

”lara is way too much risk.”

A Floyd victim schooled Lara!!!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 12:13 pm 


B E A R S

“floyd is no looking for guys who are loosing”

most if frauds opponents have kost or have multiple losses. he does not specialize in fighting undefeated highly touted boxers.

the only rxcuse incan think of for fraud not fighting kara besides both fraud and laras style suck. is that lara has better legs andcan def beat fraud at his own game. how come these runners dont fight eachother? fraud and lara? lara is way too much risk.like pac and bradley. fraud mayweather is a fraud and theres nothing new to see here. im just glad its almost over for team fraud

Posted July 14, 2014 11:58 am 


B E A R S

maidana had lost before. you wanna cherry pick a guys wins and call him relevant we can cherry pick trouts win over cotto. did much better than fruad. guess we can rationalize a trout vs fraud matchup with turdmonds line of reasoning
ortiz and guerrero blow. guerrero was about as bad as baldomir. that outcome was about as obvious as baldomirs. guerreros feather fisted garbage. he is a shining example of how moving through lighter weights picking up trinkets can sometimes falsely inflate a what really is a guy whis not that good

3g has not gone through lighter weight divisions picking up trinkets in a path of light resistance but we can see 3g is awesome. we dont need fake trinkets to back that up or inflate him. he is a million times better than guerrero in every way u can look at it

Posted July 14, 2014 11:52 am 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Canelo has proven why he is Mexicos Greatest head first Plodder.. Moves like a Walrus, Bobs like a Bobble Head stings like a Flea!!! he has now earned a fight with Puerto Ricos Great HOF Miguel Angel Cotto!!! at 154lbs!!! LOL Based on that flat footed wild swinging piss poor performance Freddy Roach and Cotto must see Cinnabum is ripe for the taking..

Posted July 14, 2014 11:51 am 


SREDMOND

Bears, you have a problem with Floyd facing Guerrero, Maidana and Ortiz ALL guys who had WON… 2 who were World Champions but you DON’T have a problem with him facing Chris Algieri and Lara? Algieri who YOU thought did not deserve to beat Provo, and Lara who just lost to Canelo who Floyd schooled… AGAIN you are coming up with DUMB unsellable hypotheticals to pollute the boards with your double talk… Floyd is not looking for guys LOSING in order to get bouts…

Posted July 14, 2014 11:41 am 


SREDMOND

Why the HELL would Floyd fight Lara after losing to a guy that Floyd EASILY schooled with no controversy absent CJ Ross losing her mind and seeing a draw? Lara is NOT worthy of facing Mayweather he had a chance to make a statement and obviously he did not… Maidana got a chance to fight Broner and he went for BROKE then he went for BROKE against Floyd and made it a tough bout.. No one wants to see Lara vs Mayweather the public is gonna forget Erislandy after this contest… He is know to hardcore fight fans but he does not have star quality, brings NO $$$, NO fans and now no glory after a loss..

Posted July 14, 2014 11:39 am 


Anonymous

BEARS

I always pictured you as a sixteen year old, acne faced, skinny, red headed kid with specs, but seeing you on YouTube I didn’t think that the reasonable, somewhat slow witted, balding, fat, wannabe gangster talking back at me was you BEARS. Really? Really?
YouTube “bears8881″

I will agree with you that Canelo beat Lara, but by waiver thin decision. But, you my pudgy faced, fat-fingered, lard assed chum need to get off the hype train and get some perspective.

Only by decimating or totally dominating your opponents do you become or overthrow those at the top of the tree. Canelo squeaked by his two toughest W. Lara and Trout, who are on noones top 20 Jnr Middleweight All Time list.

Canelo must do more. Much more and get some air in his lungs. He’s a hauler.
Perhaps if he trained carrying you on his back, he may get that engine he so clearly requires.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:38 am 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Gotta love all these Mexicans like (te Tumbo) now making the Case for why The Great Boriqua Tito Trinidad beat Delahoya like Canelo beat Lara who ran all night long like Delahoya.. Lara did not hurt or back up Canelo like DelaRunner vs Tito, Lara backpeddled all night long like Delahoya who Back peddled for 6 rounds and then Flat out Ran for the next 6 Rounds.. Yeap, Delahoya Clearly lost to Trinidad.. just like Lara Lost to Canelo.. Glad to see all these Mexicans especially Dumbo now see the light… Well, Lara’s Jabs did fk up Canelos Face pretty Baddly all night long while DelaRunner didn’t even give Tito a scratch.. LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 11:31 am 


B E A R S

canelo wants to take back the mexican holidays from fraud mAyweather! thats awesome. that will dent the sh!t outta frauds buys.

i would like to see canelo vs quillen followed by canelo vs cotto followed by canelo vs 3g

preceeded by ward growing a pair and moving up to face kovalev. wards spot on rings p4p list shouldve dropped dramatically for inactivity mixed with bum fluff

Posted July 14, 2014 11:31 am 


B E A R S

lara would beat fraud at his own gAme. of course fraud wont fight lara when he can fight the kahns, guerreros, ortizs, and maidanas of the world.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:04 am 


SREDMOND

And a FORK is officially put in Lara’s SLIM chances of landing a Mayweather bout.. He needed to impress and overwhelm instead it appears he dropped a close fight… That ain’t cutting it!

Posted July 14, 2014 10:18 am 


Another sad day for floyd dumb dumbs

Kirkland against canelo is a laugh, he goes to sleep like a good little baby after a shot of whiskey

Posted July 14, 2014 6:10 am 


justice

quit your crying and moaning hecdog

Posted July 14, 2014 5:13 am 


SLIM

I’ve heard of being on your bicycle, but Lara was on a motorcycle…If you wanna run go to marathon. Then was surprised he lost?? Gimme a break!

Posted July 14, 2014 4:39 am 


bigcity

I’ve never seen anyone who ran so far in such a confined space. 117-111 win for Canelo. The 117 for the points scored by Canelo and the 111 for Lara’s odometer reading in terms of miles.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:17 am 


Ray Ray

Dont worry about Cotto, Kirkland or Golovkin……how about a rematch? Judges could have scored that either way. Il pay 2 c no.2

Posted July 14, 2014 4:09 am 


Anonymous

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Posted July 14, 2014 3:01 am 


B E A R S

if canelo does not completely knock lara off his bike canelo looses? i dont think so. again i dont subscribe to that being the fight game. i guess that your opinion and view i strongly disagree and im glad the judges did too

Posted July 14, 2014 2:29 am 


Hecdog

Moving and not being a stationery target is a form of defense and should be credited. It’s Canelo’s responsibility to find a strategy to stop him. He didn’t and Lara should be applauded for his elusiveness. He had Canelo swinging at air. Lara had the cleaner.more effective punching. He had total command of the fight style. His ring generalship was outstanding. Canelo’s aggressiveness was NOT effective, it was desperate and out of control. Scoring the fight using the judges scoring criteria points directly to Lara dominating Canelo and that is the honest truth. Score the fight rationally instead of emotionally and you will see Lara.was the clear.cut victor. Can any of you imagine who would have received the victory if GBP/Oscar were promoting Lara and not Canelo?????

Posted July 14, 2014 2:07 am 


B E A R S

atthe end of the day lara did a lot of running and personally i think thats contrary to the aim of the game.

were talking about a fight here

Posted July 14, 2014 1:59 am 


Hecdog

The Mad Scientist my friend, there is no possible way Canelo honestly won that fight. I like Canelo and had picked him to win, but Lara gave him a boxing lesson. Reminds me of the fight between Julio Ceasar Chavez Sr. And Pernell Whitaker. Whitaker dominated him and beat him like a rag doll. Guess what, Pernell was robbed of a victory. Why? Because Don King was Julio’s promoter. He had the usual pull of the judges as Oscar did last night. Lara was almost the second coming of the legendary Manny Pacquiao without the pulverizing power. Lara won, too bad boxing is the most corrupt sport ever. Las Vegas also robbed Manny in his first fight against Bradley. Corruption in boxing stinks

Posted July 14, 2014 1:54 am 


Anonymous

I had it 117 – 111 for Alvarez, the fight wasn’t even close. Lara did nothing but run and whenever he did throw punches they were baby punches, hell, a woman can hit harder than he…………………..Alvarez did more damage with one left uppercut than Lara did with all his feather punches…………Running is for track & field. If you want to see real lateral movement, watch Lomachenko Vs. Russell, Lomachenko landed really hard punches, then moved, but he was fighting and he landed a lot of body punches as well. Lara did not even try to fight……………..

Alvarez would knock Kirkland and Cotto out, but GOLVOKIN WILL KNOCK ALVAREZ OUT………………….it really looks as if Alvarez will fight Cotto next though, easy fight…………….

Posted July 14, 2014 1:34 am 


The Mad Scientist

Hecdog are you out here flip flopping again.. you silly rabbit..Lol

Posted July 14, 2014 12:18 am 


B E A R S

wow…. i did watch it

dudes acting like canelo didnt hit lara

Posted July 14, 2014 12:16 am 


Hecdog

After rewatching this fight a few times, I had Lara winning 8 out of the first 9 rounds without question. Please watch the fight without commentary and use the following criteria to score each round: Clean punching, Effective Aggressiveness, Ring Generalship and defense. If you watch it as a true boxing fan and not wanting either guy to win, you will clearly see that Erislandy Lara dominated this fight in all areas. Those body shots from Canelo were either blocked, or glancing punches, few landed cleanly in the scoring area. Yes Canelo had 1-2 rounds where they landed clean, but the other 10 rounds, Canelo was lost. See it for yourself.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:44 pm 


TARK

“Big difference, Oscar ran for 3-4 rounds Lara ran the whole dam fight!”

Lara engaged a little too… He landed more and cleaner punches… but he should have engaged more, it’s a fight.

Lara has to forget Cuban School

This is the pros.. You don’t necessarily win by landing more punches against an extremely popular Mexican icon.. You have to literally beat the SHlT out of him.

The judges aren’t counting the punches.. They’re oblivious, and score for who they like if possible.. You needed to back Canelo up and follow up on your hard punches landed.

You NEVER land a hard straight left and dance away.. That’s the dumbest thing in the world.. You follow up with a hard right hook and more power shots until you drive Canelo back.. You have to make it pretty damned obviously who’s winning — because if you asked the judges who landed more punches they could GAF less.

In the amateurs they’re pressing buttons when you land a punch… In the pros they’re trying to get you beaten.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:29 pm 


Tomato Can

I figured on the controversial SD win for Canelo, but I thought he clearly won the fight.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:16 pm 


Sant Flores

GGG vs Canelo!!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 10:54 pm 


Sant Flores

GGG is what the fans want!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 10:52 pm 


TARK

te tumbo is right in a sense.. This was a little bit like De La Hoya-Trinidad — only for the last 3 rounds De La Hoya was just running.. Oscar wasn’t throwing at all and just motoring around … and fully expected to get the SD.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:35 pm 


TARK

Squared Circle.., You’re RIGHT!!! … I didn’t put any money on Lara because I knew he wouldn’t get a square deal.. He needed a bigger margin of victory to seal the deal and didn’t fight hard enough..

After seeing that draw vote one judge gave Floyd-Canelo, Lara should have realized he needed to beat Saul up.. He was expecting to win by landing more punches.. If they announce a SD for Lara-Canelo … guess who just won it?

Lara landed more and better punches, but he moved too much.. He didn’t follow up on a lot of the good punches he landed because he was off to the races.. Somebody said after the fight, “They told Lara to box rings round Canelo and he thought they said dance rings around him.” … Something got lost in the translation.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:29 pm 


bringiton

i don’t have to ‘agree’ this was a great fight; it was not.

Posted July 13, 2014 8:48 pm 


B E A R S

who promotes quillin!!???

Posted July 13, 2014 8:34 pm 


Jake Lead Rights

Canelos not ready for G3. I’d put him in with Kirkland then Cotto

Posted July 13, 2014 8:30 pm 


B E A R S

fight afficionado- i was looking for you tark and lionking on here before the fight.

i dont think they will be able to promote a kirkland bout very well and besides. quillen to cotto to 3g makes the most sense.

how awesome would that be too! i would def wanna watch him vs quillen for the title but i cant see canelo vs kirland as ppv worthy. if canelo does not have to boil down so much it will help his stamina. if he keeps campaigning around 154 im gonna be dissapointed

Posted July 13, 2014 8:30 pm 


B E A R S

these puerto rican dudes think every canelo fan is a mexican! lol

Posted July 13, 2014 8:22 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“canelo should take the title from quillen in his next bout then fight cotto then 3g” – Cosign Bears. Quillin is the weak link at 160 and an easy belt. Cotto is the obv big money fight. GGG is the truth and should be saved for last. By then they’ll have build it into a legit Superfight.

Posted July 13, 2014 7:59 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“GGG is taylor made for Canelo..Alvarez would get to that chin and body fast and quick before Golovkin can get anything started” – Mad Scientist, that post is so far removed from the reality of GGG’s fundamental boxing skills I presume you’re being sarcastic. But but here at ESB you never know. Was that serious or joking?

Posted July 13, 2014 7:57 pm 


Tumbo admit DelaHoya lost to Trinidad

Nothing Funnier then listening to these Mexicans claim Lara lost because he Ran all night long, Didn’t want to fight Canelo, just Jabbed and did nothing to Canelo so obviously Canelo won!!!!! they’re also clearly admitting and making the case for why Tito Trinidad clearly beat DelaRunner because Oscar Ran all night long, didn’t come to fight, did nothing to Trinidad as he back peddled using an inneffective Jab for the first 6 rounds then Flat out Ran for his Life… got to love it.. Fernando Vargas was correct, Oscar is not a real Mexican because real Mexicans do not run… ROFLMAO..

Posted July 13, 2014 7:27 pm 


B E A R S

canelo should take the title from quillen in his next bout then fight cotto then 3g

Posted July 13, 2014 7:26 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Joe … Alvarez vs. Cotto would be a great fight. Cotto is a hall of fame fighter. But to say that Alvarez should do Kirkland and not Cotto because Alvarez is not ready for Cotto is just silly. Cotto is a great fighter — but the truth is he lost to Mayweather, he lost to Trout, he beat an ESPN fighter (Rodriguez) and he needed 10 rounds to beat a guy with no knees.

So, it is not like Cotto is the same Cotto from 5-8 years ago. And note that Cotto has lost a lot of big fights — whether there was cheating or steroids is a fair point but Cotto still got his ass kicked against Margarito and Pacquiao. Cotto was ready to quit against Clottey. Cotto was getting wobbled badly by Judah until he hit below the belt.

Cotto is a hall of fame fighter — but he is by far not unbeatable.

Posted July 13, 2014 7:24 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“Canelo looked good despite having to CHASE Lara. Lara was NOT boxing defensively, he was running. He was not dodging punches he was back peddling and avoiding engaging Canelo. Thats running.” – Thankfully didn’t watch the PPV but this is exactly the kind of bout neither Lara nor Canelo needed. After observing Lara’s mad dog behavior during fight week I figured he’d run because his tough guy act was overcompensating for his true intentions. Like Andre Dirrell’s acting in the leadup to Froch fight.

Posted July 13, 2014 7:23 pm 


lman

He’s doing what he is supposed to be doing, proving that he is better, however marginally, then the rest of the other guys in his division. Now if golden boy would just stop selling him like a future p4p great he would probably get more non Mexican fans.

Posted July 13, 2014 7:23 pm 


B E A R S

in your opinion the runner ran to a victory. im glad your view was not shared by the judges. im hoping all the runners who try to run the clock out to a decision instead of fight start being shown by the judges that it does not win fights

your suppose to fight at fights not run at fights. thats beyond oxy moron

Posted July 13, 2014 7:20 pm 


TRUTH-FACT-ADAMUS

Canelo WON just as I predicted! !!!!!!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 7:17 pm 


Hecdog

BEARS my friend, I’m not a fan of runners either, but you have to give Lara more credit. He fought a very good fight landing clean effective punches throughout the fight. Canelo’s head was bouncing all over the place. He was desperate on more than a few occasions as he swung for the fences and missed by a mile. Sure he landed some good body shots, but they were in no way enough to win him the fight. Lara faced looked like he just came out of a modeling shoot. He was rarely touched throughout the 12 rounds. The Canelo crowd while cheering for Canelo and booing Lara obviously made a big impression on those judges, especially the blind drunk one that had it 111-117 for Canelo. And of course Lara could have and should have thrown a bit more, but that was part of his defense, and defense counts in scoring a fight. It’s up to Canelo to come up with a strategy to stop Lara, and he couldn’t. Lara shouldn’t be penalized for doing what many other boxers do like Floyd Mayweather. The criteria for judging and the judges themselves have to be on the same page. You cannot have one judge liking the puncher style more than the boxing style because it’s a bias and he’s going to score it for the puncher instead of going by the criteria he has been given to score a fight with. Something has to be done. Just look at the scoring criteria: Clean Punching, Effective Aggressiveness, Ring Generalship and defense. If a judge has knowledge and understanding of this criteria, there is no way possible Canelo won that fight. And like I said, I like Canelo, and think he has a great future, but he lost last night.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:57 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: Yeah right, Marquez was landing right hand counters without so much as a knockdown in THREE fights… But suddenly after he hires Angel Heredia, A convicted PED mastermind, then puts on hulk-like muscles, NOW in their 4th fight SUDDENLY, Marquez is able to floor AND KO Pac? Gimme a break!! Besides, in this fourth fight Pacquiao was outboxing Marquez by a wider margin than ALL other three fights… Even in the KO round! He just got greedy and careless which allowed ole Hulk Marquez to land a lucky right hand KO shot! LOL!

Posted July 13, 2014 6:57 pm 


joe

Canelo should take the fight with Kirkland as he probably is not ready for Cotto much less GGG. Kirkland maybe at 155 again. Maybe he can move up to 160 after that fight and challenge Cotto.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:49 pm 


DelaRunner lost to Trinidad

I made Lara feel good in the locker room.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:16 pm 


DelaRunner lost to Trinidad

Forgot one thing. Yes, I was the one in the lockeroom consoling Lara’s balls. Hey I stick to my black brothers no matter what.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:14 pm 


B E A R S

hecdog- its good the runner style lost. im tired of runners and ineffective punchers winning. pro boxing is not to be confounded with amateurs and olympics.

reminder: you had guerrero beating fraud mayweather because god was on his side.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:13 pm 


Datruth ass hurtzz

Honestly guys I will never give credit to any mexican fighters because they are that good and Im just that prejudice. If it aint a borica trash bum fighter then as you all already know I usually come on these boards to take out my frustration on …you guess it, mexican fighters. I still cant believe my hero borica JuanMa lost ..again. I need a hug.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:11 pm 


Flipflop adamus

the showtime crew said they given canelo the fight was not disagreeable

Posted July 13, 2014 6:10 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Rt …

“What I’ve learned in my life is to look into a boxers eyes and it will tell you everything …”

Yes. You are right. That is the most important thing in life. Scoring the harder punches doesn’t matter. Winning rounds doesn’t matter. Cutting the opponent doesn’t matter. Having a huge fan base doesn’t matter. Ability to draw PPV buys doesn’t matter.

Alvarez gets benefit of the doubt from judges … shocking there is gambling in the casino. Just like Muhammed Ali used to get the benefit of the doubt 30-40 years ago. Just like Oscar De La Hoya used to get the benefit of the doubt 10-15 years ago. Just like Floyd Mayweather gets the benefit of the doubt today and guys like Michael Jordan and Lebron James get the benefit of doubt from referees in other sports ..

Rt you live in a world that doesn’t exist.

Alvarez is winning these fights. You and the guys you root for … are losing these fights.

Stop whining and go find a boxer who can draw 15,000-20,000 fans into an arena and 400,000+ PPV buys … and that guy will get the benefit of the doubt. In the meantime, you and your guys are losers. Alvarez is winning. Alvarez is not cheating. Alvarez is scoring with harder punches. Alvarez is winning rounds. Alvarez is cutting-up the other fighter. And yes Alvarez is maybe getting the benefit of the doubt for 1-2 rounds to win close decisions.

Why don’t you look into the eye’s of some new fighters and see if they can draw 15,000-20,000 and 400,000+ PPV buys. Otherwise. Stop whining. Your guy lost.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:10 pm 


PEEJ

Saying Marquez got lucky with that KO against Pac is ridiculous. He had been landing right hands on Pac for 4 fights. Lol

Posted July 13, 2014 6:09 pm 


Hecdog

Gentlemen, the legendary Manny Pacquiao would have wiped the floor with Canelo and Lara, let’s get that straight first. Now, last night’s fight was another home cooking awful decision if you know anything about boxing. Canelo looked like a caveman swinging his club around and hitting nothing. He was off balance, had no idea how to cut off the ring. Lara was going left and Canelo was going right. This was a masterful boxing exhibition that Lara put on. His ring generalship and clean effective punches were on point. Canelo’s desperate wild flurries did nothing. He landed a few body punches, but not nearly enough to win the round. I’ve watched the replay, and once again had Lara winning 8 rounds to 4. I picked Canelo to win, but he was schooled last night and should have admitted that at the post fight press conference. If you’re a true boxing fan and score the fight without any bias, Lara wins easily. I like Canelo, he has a lot of talent and is going to be a great one, but he was schooled last night. I actually felt sorry for him as he was getting frustrated, bruised, and he literally almost broke his ankle trying to find Lara. It’s all the same in boxing. The big promoter (Oscar) and GBP, Las Vegas and those same good o’l Boy judges played just right. The 111-117 score card must have been filled out a month ago. That judge should be thrown out of the country and made to count marbles forever. Lara did an excellent job and was in control of the entire fight. His punches were clear and crisp. His defense was outstanding. He handled himself like a true intelligent. He had no chance with the home town kid. Had that fight been anywhere else but Las Vegas, guess what? Lara wins by a land slide. The numbers even favor Lara. Boxing should be embarrassed for last night’s awful decision.

Posted July 13, 2014 6:02 pm 


DelaRunner lost to Trinidad

At last these Chihuahuas like te tumbo are all in agreement.. You cannot win a fight by Running all night long.. by throwing ineffective Jabs.. by not fighting your opponent Mano a Mano pretty much finally admitting that Delahoya Lost to the Great Tito Trinidad.. Yeap, Lara, like Delahoya did not deserve to win, Lara like Delahoya were running all night long.. Lara like Delahoya threw ineffective Jabs.. Yeap we can all now Agree!!! DelaRunner Lost to Tito Trinidad.. thanks Tumbo.. I knew one Day you’d understand… ROFLMAO…

Posted July 13, 2014 5:50 pm 


Canelowins

Canelo beat Trout. To satisfy all you naysayers cause you cried about was how he was always the biggerman. Trout had the height advantage and was UNDEFEATED. Then you “haters” said oh wait no…he needs someone that can push him around and really test him. Enter Angulo. Canelo took care of buisness. Then if that wasnt enough you all said he dont want no part of Lara. “Lara is the real deal”. “Canelo gonna duck Lara”. Canelo signed the rabbit chase contract. Still Canelo won. So how the hell is he overrated? The only lose was to Mayweather but lets be real EVERY challenger that has fought Mayweather has lost. So does that make every fighter that lost to Mayweather overrated? FK out of here with that nonsense.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:37 pm 


Old Coot

Rem: Yeah… Pac was winning a wipeout… He just got Marquez hurt in the 5th and thne decided to get overly aggressive, and careless, trying to end the controversy with a KO of his own, which backfired badly. Bad break… Now had Pacquiao just continued to box Marquez like he did for the majority of the fight, he was headed for a clear UD victory. Only Pac haters can’t see that.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:31 pm 


Old Coot

The Mad Scientist: Nobody “hates” Canelo. We just think he is overrated.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:26 pm 


REM

Man I really wish Pac would give Marquez the 20 mil for the 5th fight. And then fight Marquez like he did Rios. Of course it wouldn’t be that easy because of Marquez’s catch and shoot, but Pac would win the majority of the rounds in a boring fight for the casual fans.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:22 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Canelowins, the Canelo haters are just talking a bunch of nonsense do to fear and insecurity from what they are witnessing from Kid Cinnamon..deep down they know this kid is the truth

Posted July 13, 2014 5:18 pm 


Canelowins

Elite fighters getting “lucky” punches? Is your love for Pacquioa so deep you are blind to see that it was nothing more than a perfectly timed punch? Pacquioa ran into it. Marquez delivered. How is it a lucky punch exactly? Was Marquez blind folded. Was Pacquioa high that day? You want to talk luck try 3 “lucky controversial wins” for Pacquioa. The 4th was because it was necessary. All the previous fights left us fans with a sour taste of GTFO of here with that BS. After 3 fights… luck is the last thing you all Pacquioa fans should be talking about. Try commitment and frustration from Marquez. Heart and extreme focus. Pacquioa was busy thinking about his home back in Manila. Thats not Marquez problem.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:13 pm 


Canelowins

yea Canelo was cutting off the ring nicely, I dont know what these anti-canelo peeps are talking about. Canelo looked good despite having to CHASE Lara. Lara was NOT boxing defensively, he was running. He was not dodging punches he was back peddling and avoiding engaging Canelo. Thats running.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:07 pm 


Old Coot

The Mad Scientist: I don’t “believe” Marquez got lucky… I know it!!

Posted July 13, 2014 5:06 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Im about to watch the replay again..love the way Canelo cut off the ring and slowed Lara down with those body shots..yeah Alvarez got hit with a couple good shots but he was never really fazed nor did he stop applying the pressure,, Canelo takes a good shot and his defensively responsible as he proved to all the Cotto fangirls last night..Lol

Posted July 13, 2014 5:03 pm 


Canelowins

Its already been 4 FOUR (CUATRO) fights. All of which HAD TO happen because of the bogus and controversial “decision” wins handed to Pacquioa. Paquioa wasnt exactly putting on a boxing clinic on Marquez and he never did in their other fights. However, Marquez did annihialte and destroy Pacquioa in the 4th match. Put his ass to sleep for God knows how long. The only lucky thing was Pacquioa not being in acoma after that punch. End of story. Marquez had Pacquioa’s number after those fights.

Posted July 13, 2014 5:01 pm 


Canelowins

Tetumbo/Madscientist- Exactly

Posted July 13, 2014 4:55 pm 


te tumbo

“They showed Manny was wiping the canvas with Marquez” he was ahead by a single F’n point going into the 6th(?!), which he didn’t survive. WTF are you talking about Mr. Sterling? you sound like a delusional and demented Pacmaniac*.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:54 pm 


The Mad Scientist

If you really believe Marquez got lucky with the shot heard round the world why are you (Cooch) and the rest of the pactards still crying..?? ,,move on already and be happy the punch was nothing but luck

Posted July 13, 2014 4:48 pm 


Datruth ass hurtzz

Public Enemy- I know. I need a hug too. I keep watching hoping that some day our coconut munching boricas will some day rise from the ashes but no. These mexicans keep proving us wrong again and again. What to do? Then we try supporting other fighters (black only) from around the globe in hopes that we can get some meaningless satisfaction but they lose too. DATRUTH DOES HURT.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:48 pm 


Public Enemy

Datruth hurtzz- Hug me brother. I cant believe JuanMa lost and then our only hope in Lara was crushed by another mexican fighter. Dang it! Those mexicans and their warrior spirits are beating up every puertorican fighter out there. Hey, you know what? We should start up a puertorican golf team.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:44 pm 


Old Coot

The judges score cards weren’t speculation… They showed Manny was wiping the canvas with Marquez, even in Marquez’s 6th lucky KO round. LOL! And everybody but you pathetic Pac hatin, Floyd appologists knows Marquez was lucky.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:42 pm 


Old Coot

You wanna see proof that Marquez was lucky that Pacquia chose to let Marquez hit him, Pacquiao outclassed Bradley twice and Bradley TOTALLY outclassed that overrated stonelegged mummy, Marquez. If Pac wasn’t a warrior who likes pleasing the fans and who gives Marquez an unnecesary chance to hit Manny instead of just running and pot-shotting like Mayweather, then Manny would wipe the Floor with Marquez. And Marquez knows it too!… That is why he won’t fight him again.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:39 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Just give it up already Old Cooch, speculation and assumptions doesn’t get Pacquiao any moral victory around here..

Posted July 13, 2014 4:38 pm 


Old Coot

Marquez lost round 6 too… He just got lucky… And he knows it.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:34 pm 


Old Coot

Tumbo: Pacquiao won the entire battle, but Marquez won the war with a literal, last second lucky shot… LOL!

Posted July 13, 2014 4:32 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Alot of haters out in full force hating on mexican fighters I see..its all good, it only means Canelo and Marquez are doing something right having all those fangirls feeling shooked and insecure..Lol!

Posted July 13, 2014 4:31 pm 


Old Coot

And Tacky-on: Funny how everytime crybaby Marquez loses, he whines “robbery”… Like when Manny beat him at least twice, and like when Bradley outclassed his overrated ass.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:30 pm 


te tumbo

COOT, Pacquiao* was knocked clean out of this dimension in round 6 and that’s FINAL.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:29 pm 


Old Coot

Tacky-on: Marquez was out on his feet in round 5… Blind boy!

Posted July 13, 2014 4:26 pm 


Old Coot

den: Too bad Floyd had to pay Manny for defamation after it was discovered that FLOYD covered up failing 3 blood tests himself.

Posted July 13, 2014 4:25 pm 


Old Coot

Tackyon: What a dumb ass!

Posted July 13, 2014 4:24 pm 


Old Coot

ESB won’t allow me to reply with more than one sentence… AGAIN!!

Posted July 13, 2014 4:23 pm 


den

IF COTTO PLEASE GET BLOOD TEST LIKE MAYWEATHER DID WAKE THE HELL UP HOPEFULL FREDDY ROACH WILL TELL HIM THAT AFTER ADMITTING HIS FIGHTERS WERE DIRTY BOXING IS SO CORRUPT

Posted July 13, 2014 4:12 pm 


Boxtradamus

Seeing that I am CORRECT yet again Herron has DUCKED from the comment boards. Catching ME right after another WIN is like catching a CHAIN SAW. I’ll cut through YOU just like BUTTER. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 3:36 pm 


Tachyon

Old coot you paying too much attention to silly HBO analyst who don’t know jack except for RJJ. Marquez had a cut not the bridge of his nose that was bleeding he was not hurt in round 5 the blood was from the cut which you could plainly see after the fight. Pac assumed he had Marquez hurt and bam we know what happened to Pac lol. Marquez fought Pac 4 times to he he is ducking is pathetic especial after Marquez was robbed twice. Only reason Marquez want take the fight is money Arum wants all the money offering Marquez pennies Marquez said 50/50 split across the board Arum said no and Marquez told him to piss off.

Posted July 13, 2014 3:25 pm 


Decker

I see there are a few on here who have their panties in a bunch b/c Canelo scored a SD win over Lara.
BFD.
Boxing isn’t just about running and throwing some pity pat jabs. Mayweather and the retired Calzaghe – 2 fighters that generate strong pro and con views – are superb boxers, but don’t run the entire fight. They score effectively (FM) and/or by sheer volume (JC).

Lara must have thought this was an amateur fight or a track meet. If it wasn’t for Alvarez there wouldn’t have even been a fight – it would have been a posing contest !

Posted July 13, 2014 3:12 pm 


Old Coot

Marquez knows it was pure luck he survived round 5, & land a lucky KO shot, & that this time lightning may strike twice… This time on MARQUEZ’S ASS! So he is now ducking Pac like Voyd ALWAYS has!!

Posted July 13, 2014 3:11 pm 


SLIM

If you wanna run go to a marathon’

Posted July 13, 2014 3:10 pm 


Old Coot

Te-Tumbo: So I take anything you ridiculous Floydiacs and Floydiots, have to say about Pac with a grain of salt… Besides, there is a reason Marquez won’t fight a fifth… Because he knows he got lucky… Funny how the one who went to sleep is not scared but the guy who won is? LOL!!

Posted July 13, 2014 3:08 pm 


Old Coot

Te-tumbo: Of course you are a Mayweather apologist who will twist any reality concerning the Great Pacman, because you are desperate to ALWAYS distract from how your chicken pisses himself at the mere thought of fighting Pac.

Posted July 13, 2014 3:07 pm 


CAM

I’m no dick rider but how can people call Canelo a bum!!! Lopez, Trout, Mayweather, Lara…..and he is 24!!!!
But GGG is the second coming of Marciano and who has he fought?
Cotto the GGG. Canelo is not scared and that is great for the sport.

Posted July 13, 2014 3:05 pm 


te tumbo

“Pac had Marquez nearly out on his feet in the 5th…” but instead of finishing Marquez as Marquez would later do to Pacquiao*, Manny* once again bungled his advantage and was consistently countered by Marquez who survived the round to KTFO of Pacquiao* with a fistful of “Dinamita” in the 6th and Final round. IF it had only been a KD, Marquez would’ve gone into the 7th with momentum, the scorecards, and true killer-instinct in his favor. you’ve gotta be delusional to imagine Pacquiao* was dominating Marquez in IV. it was give-and-take until Marquez executed the rivalry-ending and #1 KO in Boxing History. all the questions were answered. all doubts were removed. Marquez is Greater.

Posted July 13, 2014 3:00 pm 


Old Coot

And FYI, MORON!!:

Pac had dominated and in fact won the 6th round that he got KO’d in with literally 2 seconds remaining in the round (Can you say LUCK). If you look at Marquez reaction when Pac went down, Hell ole Juan Ma, was more surprised than the fans! And I guarantee you that Marquez’s ass couldn’t KO Manny like that again, even if you paid him twice what Mayweather demands to fight Pacman. LOL!!

Posted July 13, 2014 2:55 pm 


R0cket-H@mster

GGG beats the living 4hi1 out of both

Posted July 13, 2014 2:51 pm 


R0cket-H@mster

Lara left the door ajar by being so defensive, but Canelo didn`t exactly steamroll through it, he’s not great at cutting off the ring, and takes too long to get set for his punches – he wants big power on everything instead of just landing to pin someone down.

Lara made them both look quite bad, and that just isn`t attractive in pro boxing since there are 100 other things we could be watching than someone circling a ring for 90% of every round trying not to engage.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:50 pm 


Old Coot

@ The idiot calling “Coot a MORON” is a REAL MO-ron!!:

Yes, Other than Marquez catching Pac off balance with that quick knock down in round 3, Pac was CLEARLY winning by a HUGE margin on ALL scorecards, both official and unofficial, not to mention Pac had Marquez nearly out on his feet in the 5th… But instead of simply continuing to dominate Marquez and just patiently wait for the KO to come, Pac and Roach got greedy, and careless because they were tired of Marquez’s fans claiming that Marquez had won the other 3 fight, when he really only could have won the 3rd bout… So to end the controversy fabricated by Marquez’ fans, Pac and Roach wanted to finish Marquez off so they could end, once and for all, the BS claims by Marquez’ fans that he had beaten Pac when the punch-stats never showed that in either match. And so Pac, by carelessly rushing in constantly to try finish an expert counter-puncher like Marquez, off, backfired badly on Pacquiao. I guarantee you here and now, that had Manny just continued to fight like he did in rounds 1-5, for the rest of the fight, and not have gotten greedy, Manny would have won a nearly one-sided UD!!

Posted July 13, 2014 2:49 pm 


Ban Swan Porn

Lara took Canelo to the school of Cuban boxing: The art of running without getting hit.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:43 pm 


REM

Thank god I can post without wifi again lol.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:33 pm 


Coot is a MORON

Pacquiao chose to stand still “hmm”.Did he choose to go to sleep too against Marquez….Hes dumb as Freddie roach.Makes no adjustments
WWhatsoever against Marquez in all of there fights… None

Posted July 13, 2014 2:30 pm 


PEEJ

I think Lata could improve on his performance. It was the running that cost him the fight. All he had to do was take a step or 2 to the left or right and make Canelo pay. He didn’t do that. He would make Canelo miss and circle the ring a couple times.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:27 pm 


te tumbo

you know Canelo’s win is BIG when it’s accompanied by the hysterical rants of ESB’s rabid and pathetic homeless person Public Enema. i can already see the spittle dribbling off the side of his mouth and the pages of newspaper peeking out of his ass-crack.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:25 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Rubio, GGG hasn’t fought anybody of note IMO..Golovkin hasn’t even dealt with boxers who have great athleticism like Mayweather, Trout and Lara to indicate anything..Canelo has fought different styles and he knows how to box and fight going forward or backwards with no problem

Posted July 13, 2014 2:21 pm 


Junito Luvs Bryan

Bottomline is the boriquas got there azzes beat again and again. LOL!! Poor MyButtHurtzz. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 2:21 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

So I guess all these Mexicans like te tumbo are finally all agreeing that Delahoya did not beat Tito Triinidad because he was running all night long and did not engage Tito Trinidad.. at least we can all agree on that now,, thanks Dumbo for coming to your senses…

Posted July 13, 2014 2:18 pm 


Junito Luvs Bryan

Funny thing is this butt hurt MyButtHurtz crying every time a Mexican wins a fight. Get a life dumbazz!!

Posted July 13, 2014 2:18 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Funny thing is these Mexicans now claiming Lara didn’t deserve to win because he was back peddling were the same idiots claiming Delahoya beat Trinidad even though Delahoya was back peddling for 6 rounds then flat out Running for the next 6 rounds?? fkn Hypocrates.. especially this te tumbo Chicano aka Fake Mexican… low life hypocrates.. LOL

Posted July 13, 2014 2:16 pm 


Old Coot

Rt Said:

“@Old Coot

My point exactly.

Canelo has the traditional Mexican style of “Stand still so that I can hit you.”

Too many enchilladas and coronas hombre. Canelo is overrated but I understand nationalism.”

Yessir!!… And the very reason that Floyd chose him, but won’t choose Pacquiao… Pacquiao can keep up, whearas Canelo cannot. And speaking of standing still, the “stand still” mantra is why Pacquiao got KO’d, by Marquez, but Marquez couldn’t touch Bradley, who really lost to Pacquiao twice… That’s because Pacquiao CHOOSES to “stand still” so Marquez can hit him although he clearly could avoid it if he so chose to. Which is what both Bradley and Mayweather did against Marquez, which was to stay away and pot-shot.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:15 pm 


te tumbo

Lara won’t dare improve on his performance. that would require serious risk, which is precisely what he avoided last night. that’s what the prevailing scorecards were all about. it’s now time for Lara to rematch Molina and bring a title to the table IF he’s going to insist on rematching the likes of Canelo who has now swept his weight-class of willing challengers. Cotto is desperately not interested and Kirkland is MIA.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:14 pm 


Rubio

Mad scientist I think Canelo is made for ggg. Ggg is more powerful and is an even better body puncher. But I’d love to see it! I’d like to see Canelo in there with a guy like cotto or Kirkland who would mix it up with him. I’d favor him in those matchups. Ggg is significantly older, Canelo is probably not at his peak.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:13 pm 


BEARS

thats cause your an old coot

cotto tries to jab and gets lit the phuk up by canelo in the pocket.

cotto would be an ideal style for canelos style and the fight would make $$$ and make canelo look his best ever

cotto would get brutalized

Posted July 13, 2014 2:12 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Lara cannot improve on his performance, he knows what will happen if he dares to fight Canelo for a few seconds..Alvarez cut the ring off with no problem and slowed Lara down with his body work..you poor fools thought Canelo was gonna eat silly shots as he pressed forward and it was Lara who shelled up and was afraid to let his hands go

Posted July 13, 2014 2:11 pm 


te tumbo

MADSCI, never mind Cotto’s fanbase, Cotto himself has been shook and in awe of Canelo for the past couple of years. enough to reject a $10 million guarantee that Lara wasn’t offered. his short arms and short legs won’t even give him the option of running that Lara employed. consequently, i don’t think Cotto will ever confirm a bout v. Canelo, i.e. what “rivalry”?

Posted July 13, 2014 2:08 pm 


Game of Bro’s

This fight was hard to score.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:08 pm 


Old Coot

te tumbo: “In and out” by definition means throwing pot-shots on the “IN” part… Just like Floyd did.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:06 pm 


Old Coot

The Mad Scientist: Ok… So I am calling it right now… In Alverez vs Cotto, Miguel beats Canelo, easier than Canelo fan think.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:05 pm 


te tumbo

“Lara will train to employ getting in, out, and around Canelo” but if he once again neglects to do any punching, he will Lose once again. in fact, “getting in” can’t even be included in the equation because staying away is obviously Lara’s preference v. a vicious puncher like Canelo. Lara will NOT prepare to take ANY risks and that’s the problem.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:05 pm 


BEARS

morales and barrera ATG’s canelo is most def guranteed for the status. he will smoke kirkland and quillen and cotto and if he beats 3g?

BOO YAH! the kid could propel himself into discussion of greatest mexican boxer of all time. its ok if u dont see it now you will. his gap closing and cutting off the ring skills will only get better. the kids 23

Posted July 13, 2014 2:04 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Bottom line is Lara clearly Beat Canelo EZ 8 to 4 Rounds.. Lara Made Canelo look like the Plodding slow as Mollases tough man Brawler that we all know he is.. at the place I saw the fight everyone was laughing every time Lara Landed those straight shots to Canelos face, Canello was confused and missing shots wildly.. Canelo never dropped Lara, seriously hurt Canelo nonthing.. Just look at Canelos face it was all puffy and Red… Lara got Robbed and every true Boxing Fan including the Showtime Talking heads and one honest Judge had lara easily beating Canelo.. Only delusional Mexicans say Canelo won that fight.. Canelo looked as bad as he did vs Mayweather.. it was another sh!t performance by Cinnabum..

Posted July 13, 2014 2:04 pm 


Boxing 101

Taylor made “YES” Taylor made

GGG Powerful,strong jab,Good body puncher,OK defense suspect chin.

CANELO Great combination puncher good body puncher as well better defense,faster and fought more quality fighters.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:03 pm 


Old Coot

PEEJ: I said Marino was “great”, he just didn’t have all the personal attributes to quite become an ATG champ. Just like Canelo doesn’t.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:03 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Cotto fangirls are shooked right now,, they know what’s coming..Cotto fans were hoping for a Lara win so that Junito doesn’t have to take a brutal ass beating against Canelo..they would’ve been content with Cotto getting a payday wi5h a Mayweather rematch

Posted July 13, 2014 2:01 pm 


Old Coot

te tumbo: That is my point… In a re-match Canelo will try to cut off the ring, but will fall way short, becuase Lara will train to employ getting in, out, and around Canelo, like Floyd did.

Posted July 13, 2014 2:01 pm 


PEEJ

I agree Bradley has no business in fighting for the middleweight championship. If they wanna fight the championship should not be on the line

Posted July 13, 2014 2:00 pm 


BEARS

sometimes highly touted orospects become ATG in fact thats the krder of operations. im saying it is clear to me. i think he is the best at 160. time will show that. now we have division phukd by cotto fighting catchweights first with bradley of all people. wtf?

Posted July 13, 2014 1:59 pm 


te tumbo

“making it easy as pie for quick fighters to avoid his shots”, which is not what occurred v. Lara last night. whenever Lara engaged, he actually didn’t avoid Canelo’s shots. only when he ran was he able to avoid not only Canelo’s shots but an entire fight. you don’t show up to an archery contest, shelve your arrows, then blame your opponent for not hitting the target. Lara didn’t want to compete. he was blatantly trying to steal (NOT earn) a decision to confirm a mega-payday v. “Money”. Canelo was right on when he said “i’ll give him a rematch when he learns how to fight”, which is the entire appeal of the contest to begin with. otherwise, stick to the amateurs for appreciation of form and movement.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:55 pm 


Boxing 101

Please stop comparing Lara to May weather the comparison isn’t even close.Watch the 2 fights between Canelo vs Lara and Mayweather.Very different fights Lara makes May weather look like Tyson.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:54 pm 


The Mad Scientist

GGG is taylor made for Canelo..Alvarez would get to that chin and body fast and quick before Golovkin can get anything started

Posted July 13, 2014 1:52 pm 


PEEJ

As far as Canelo being an ATG your probably right with your assessment

Posted July 13, 2014 1:52 pm 


PEEJ

You don’t have to win a Super Bowl to be considered a great QB. You have 21 other people on the field to that gets you to the Super Bowl. Lol. Marino was a great QB

Posted July 13, 2014 1:51 pm 


Old Coot

correction- Canelo will never be “an” ATG!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:49 pm 


te tumbo

“watch his last fights” v. whom?!? i’ve already seen his bout v. Rosado but couldn’t get past that Angulo had done it first. who has Golovkin derailed? exposed? surpassed? without those type of performances, he is nothing but a highly-touted prospect like Lara or Gamboa and we know how their stories are ending.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:49 pm 


Rt

@Old coot

Well said, “Canelo will never be great against fleet-footed fighters… He has what I call an unchangeable negative intangible… Which are legs of concrete, so he comes forward like a mummy, making it easy as pie for quick fighters to avoid his shots.”

Posted July 13, 2014 1:48 pm 


PEEJ

First off I could care less what people there thought. Look at the majority of people that watched it on TV and keep in mind they have a better view than someone sitting in ine spot. I just clearly proved your legible wrong. And I have said multiple times I had Lara winning by 2 rounds.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:48 pm 


Old Coot

Canelo is a great fighter, but he will never be and ATG, for the simple reason that although he has great arms and hands, his legs simply can’t move fast enough… Just like Dan Marino in the NFL… He has all sorts of records but no Super Bowl rings, because while Dan’s arm was great with that quick brain and quicker release to compensate, like Alverez today, arms and hands alone were not enought… Marino’s concrete mummy legs, and couldn’t move in the pocket enough when needed to help that quick release seal the deal.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:47 pm 


te tumbo

blatant running without punching can not be classified as “fleet-footed” in the sport of boxing. it’s like getting credit for a great swing without actually hitting the ball in baseball. Boxing requires that a Fighter be willing to engage and compete v. his opponent. Lara refused to satisfy this requirement. 116-112 is being courteous to a boxer we know is capable of more but won’t risk it. Lara needs to take his boxing creds and apply to Fight School.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:46 pm 


Rt

@Old Coot

My point exactly.

Canelo has the traditional Mexican style of “Stand still so that I can hit you.”

Too many enchilladas and coronas hombre. Canelo is overrated but I understand nationalism.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:46 pm 


BEARS

te tumbo- watch his last fights. his arsenal is diverse and powerful and VERY accurate.

canelo vs 3g will be a war of attrition unless somebodies chin does not hold up. i think its clear watching 3g that he like canelo is very special.

i love both canelo and 3g and in terms of boxing accomplishment canelo sure has accomplished more.

honestly i dont know who i would forecast to win that at this time.

if that fight were made it would be beyond superfight to me. it would be a dream come true. the sheer BRUTALITY. it would be UNREAL that matchup.

^^i would like to see canelo brutalize cotto and quillen real quick. if one of thise guys could be his next fight it would be awesome. canelo is the first dude in awhile im buying his ppv’s.

im a huge canelo fan son you know that

Posted July 13, 2014 1:46 pm 


BEARS

te tumbo- watch his last fights. his arsenal is diverse and powerful and VERY accurate.

canelo vs 3g will be a war of attrition unless somebodies chin does not hold up. i think its clear watching 3g that he like canelo is very special.

i love both canelo and 3g and in terms of boxing accomplishment canelo sure has accomplished more.

honestly i dont know who i would forecast to win that at this time.

if that fight were made it would be beyond superfight to me. it would be a dream come true. the sheer BRUTALITY. it would be UNREAL that matchup.

i would like to see canelo brutalize cotto and quillen real quick. if one of thise guys could be his next fight it would be awesome. canelo is the first dude in awhile im buying his ppv’s.

im a huge canelo fan son you know that

Posted July 13, 2014 1:44 pm 


LOL

I think the great Tark could be running out of hype jobs.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:43 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Joseph Herron

Well which one is it, you flip-flopping big mouth?!! LOL”-OH don’t tell ME that MY Jester fooled YOU TOO. Lara is the Better Boxer but will LOSE by TWO blind MICE decision. Lara is one of the most difficult Boxers in the Sport to hit. Canelo is the FLASHIER puncher and sometimes FLASH defeats substance when it comes to people’s OPINIONS. People who put $2000 rims on a $1000 Car agree with ME on that.

Posted July 8, 2014 1:06 am”

I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:42 pm 


Old Coot

Canelo will never be great against fleet-footed fighters… He has what I call an unchangeable negative intangible… Which are legs of concrete, so he comes forward like a mummy, making it easy as pie for quick fighters to avoid his shots. Which I might add, was the very reason Mayweather even chose him. And just like I predicted and won easy money on, Floyd pitched a shutout… Floyd knew Canelo (aka The Mummy) 1. Couldn’t get to him, and 2. Gets, tired in late rounds. And If Lara and Alvarez re-match, which I expect they will, just you wait and see, Lara will win a UD by doing “The Floyd”, which is to get in an out, with pot-shots, making Canelo miss wildly.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:39 pm 


Rt

@Love-the-sport

To answer your question … Yes I get a check from my employer like most employed people on this site. However, I’m speaking from my own mouth, not from a corporation. Canelo lost last night. He again showed that he struggles with boxers. He struggles with south paws. He struggles with boxers who have lateral movement. Lara made a statement. He beat the golden boy.

What I’ve learned in my life is to look into a boxers eyes and it will tell you everything. Lars looked like a man who truly believed that he won the match. Canelo looked dejected right after the fight. Dela Hoya and Hopkins had the same expression. They looked like a guilty family last night. A family that knows full well that their guy got beat, but that they could not afford for him to lose.

With the GBP shakeup, could their “golden goose” be honestly allowed to lose or win a fight fair and square? Absolutely not! Who else do they have in their stable with Canelos drawing power?

Think! All of you! Think! It’s the same thing with Arum and Pacman. The only way Marquez would ever get a decision against him, was to knock him out! That’s what Lara was up against last night.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:38 pm 


CHYLDE

look at the position Canelo threw that right and How open to receive Cotto’s countering Left Hook to the head. Wonder what would happen!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:36 pm 


Boxtradamus

“LMFAO!! JOKES are FUNNY but they cannot defeat the FACTS. Canelo by TWO blind MICE decision. And I WILL be taking a TOAST to it once again!! Personal attacks won’t stop ME!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! GOOD try though.

Posted July 10, 2014 12:02 am”

I am the GGGGGREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:34 pm 


te tumbo

it’s not difficult to find the range v. Canelo. he’s standing right in the center of it waving his opponent in. what’s difficult is mastering the range that Canelo has claimed for himself. if and when Golovkin stalks into Canelo’s range, he gets KTFO.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:32 pm 


te tumbo

BEARS, direct me to the evidence of GGG’s greatness(?). i haven’t seen it. thank you.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:30 pm 


Oracle of Boxpollo

Also Boxtra: true greatness is shown in the face of adversity. What I mean here is admit when you’re wrong because you will win some and you will loose some. This whole Mayweather being perfect mentality does not show how great you truly are in the long run. Stop making excuses man (prophet) up when you’re wrong and look to make harder less obvious predictions more often. And Llastly lose the whole impostor and disciple excuse is played out and quite pathetic. That’s how you will TRULY become the greatest fight PROPHET ever born

Posted July 13, 2014 1:30 pm 


Boxtradamus

“So boxtradumbass. Why don’t you report your “fake users”. ESB tracks ip addresses. I remember someone posted using my name once and I reported them and ESB banned that person, or at least no one ever used my name.”-Because I ENJOY when people use MY GREAT name. It makes ME more popular. Just as Jordan enjoys watching guys who are LESSER than him wear HIS jersey. They TRY to be like Mike but they fail MISERABLY. Nevertheless I have been established as the Gold Standard in Boxing predictions. I am SO BLESSED to BE that. I will never complain about anyone using MY name. Its a sign of GREATNESS. Just LOOK at all the posters here who have not reached that level. I appreciate MY popularity. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!! And MY disciples prop ME UP even further! !!!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:28 pm 


joey

if that was A brilliant fight,then boxings in big trouble.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:28 pm 


BEARS

at 160 it is only 3g that will test canelo. 3g is a beast if u cant see that i dont know whats up. canelo will be in a war with 3g and he will get hit hard. but canelo is a beast and he is only 23!!!

NEXT CASH COW HAS ARRIVED!!!

my boy canelo!!!! i called it long ago i knew his kid was special. mexicans got another ATG on their hands folks

Posted July 13, 2014 1:28 pm 


Rt

@peej

Go on bleacher report right now and look at the ringsiders scores. They all had Lara winning 7 rounds. Then go back to the math class and do the math… LOL

But beyond that peej, Canelo won because he is a GBP fighter. He is supposed to be the Savior of boxing according to Dela Hoya. He was supposed to win because he was the ‘A’ side fighter. I’m a little disappointed in Lara for not shutting Canelo out. I mean he started great. I had him winning the first 3-4 rounds easily. He could have stayed in the pocket and throw combinations a lot more, but Lara respected Canelos power and was content with pot shorting him and peppering him with one-twos for most of the night.

Everyone knows that Canelo is dangerous in the pocket. Trout learned that, Angulo learned that, Mosley learned that. So what does Lara do? He sticks and moves. Lara beat the kid. But as a student of boxing all of my life, I know that people see only what they want to see. Truly Mature people see situations wholly and truly with no illusions.

If you’re argument is that Lara lost barely, then that would mean that Canelo barely won. Now that is too B fighters that Canelo has squeaked by, just because of his popularity.

They way I see it is that Canelo is not quite ready to be considered elite yet. He’s not as good as the GBP marketing engine wants us to believe.

Look at my list and tell me who he beats on that list–truthfully!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:26 pm 


Boxing 101

Canelo should fight ggg.golovkin is Taylor made for Canelo.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:25 pm 


te tumbo

Golovkin is benefitting from the “expert” coddling and professional punditry that Gamboa, Lara, and Lomachenko are. praised as great while also untested and unproven. Rosado might be the most prominent name on GGG’s ring-resume and Angulo KO’d him first. i just hope that they confirm this matchup before Golovkin is able to earn additional stripes. at the moment, he is mad-ripe for a fighter like Canelo to pluck from the promotional-hype tree.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:24 pm 


Oracle of Boxpollo

I have recently come to this site to see how great you really were as many were proclaiming to be the greatest fight prophet ever born. The first time I came to this site a few weeks back you were five for five on predictions on one fight cards so one thought. In using my DIVINE foresighting it breaks my soul to see how far you have fallen from the day when I personally anointed you as my successor. Overall it was believed that you had a very high success rate for accurate predictions but the more I see the more pathetic this becomes. The only pick you ever made was Alvarez by Cuban crushing stoppage yet if you’re coming on the site today to realize you’re taking an impostors pick who doesn’t even belong in the same league as you is quite pathetic. You were wrong this time just admit it out right and move on. That’s how respect will be given if any can even be salvaged at this point.

I am the Oracle of Boxpollo. Granted foresight by the boxing gods.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:23 pm 


te tumbo

IMO, Canelo KTFO of Golvokin if the fight takes place within the year. it’s a certainty. i’ve seen nothing in Golovkin that would prevent him from being Socked-Up as badly as Angulo was by Canelo. he hasn’t been tested and thus remains unproven. Trout, Mayweather, Angulo, Lara(?). Golovkin can’t touch those creds nor Canelo, IMO.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:20 pm 


PEEJ

Nobody beats GGG at 160

Posted July 13, 2014 1:20 pm 


CANELO WON!!!!

Lara would expose GGG. Winner gets Canelo.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:19 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Canelo has to improve his footwork, but I don’t see it happening. It’s as if he has some neurological problem beyond simple incoordination. Canelo has perfected the zombie stagger and cannot get beyond it – even when he needs too.
Posting too fast? No, I am not posting too fast, ESB.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:18 pm 


PEEJ

I would take GGG by KO over Canelo. Nobody beats GGG at 160

Posted July 13, 2014 1:17 pm 


Mojon

For someone that claimed Canelo was afraid of him, he sure did a lot of Running. Ring leadership? don’t think so, Ring leadership, see Mayweather. He looked scarred as hell every time canelo swang at him. I thought Lara would win, but he disappointed me a lot. He can go back to beating bums like he has. No contraversy, the right man won, if Canelo wouldn’t push the fight, there would have been no fight. Pls give the cinammon kid credit, did not have to take that fight, but he did and won rightfully so. Cuban school is the best at amateur level, but professionally, the fans and the judges will always give the to the agressive and hard puncher. Sore loosers

Posted July 13, 2014 1:17 pm 


PEEJ

Cheezb I didn’t read your post but I basically said the same thing. Lol

Posted July 13, 2014 1:16 pm 


te tumbo

i hope that Lara’s cynical display of a total lack of fighting-spirit finally puts an end to the “expert” coddling and professional punditry on his behalf. the contrast between Lara’s agenda of $elf-preservation and Canelo’s assertions of dedication to the sport on behalf of its fans was glaringly apparent last night. Lara backpedaled like somebody saving himself for “Money”. Canelo performed like a professional Fighter eager to display his fighting ability. once again, i’m happy that Lara’s disgraceful display wasn’t validated by the scorecards.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:16 pm 


Rt

@$1000

Thanks man. I’m just calling it how I see it. Canelo is a strong champion. He just doesn’t seem like he’s getting any better at adapting to a boxers style. I mean, he didn’t even know how to cut the ring off. That’s basic stuff for a slugger like him. I mean he threw a few body shots in there, but I’m not impressed. I used to think that he would destroy Pacman, but now I’m not so sure he even wins that fighte despite Pacmans size disadvantage. I think PAC would be too fast for him. GGG too strong for him. Ward too big and strong for him.

Canelo only wins when there is a human punching bag in front of him.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:15 pm 


PEEJ

Rt ok say you land 100 punches in round 1 and I land none. Then I land 10 punches every round after that and you land 1. In a 10 round fight you would of landed 109 punches. I would of only landed 90. You saying you still won that fight? Basically that means I won 9 rounds to your 1 round. Yet according to the math class you went to you won. But everybody else’s math class I would of won

Posted July 13, 2014 1:15 pm 


BEARS

i like te tumbos post. i hope this is the beginning of the end for the style that primarily runs

lara does have great footwork.lara has his title still. lara would beat mayweather

Posted July 13, 2014 1:15 pm 


CANELO WON!!!!

$1000- I will take you on that bet. Simply because you agreed with RT’s list. Canelo has fought much better fighters than GGG. GGG by KO? Don’t make me laugh.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:14 pm 


Old Coot

@ Love the sport: I meant, love your earlier post breaking down of the fight by rounds. I thought Lara won, but it honestly could have gone for Alvarez too… Either way, the judges did good and nobody was robbed. Bring on the rematch!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:13 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

“Canelo got the nod cause he’s the draw on a GBP card. I’m sure he went to dinner with the judge who had it wide. You could look in his eyes after the fight and see that he knew he lost. Watch the tape, he had the same expression when Floyd exposed him.” It sure looked that way to me too. Also:
#ShoStats: Total Punches Landed/Thrown
thru 12
Canelo [97/415, 23%]
Lara [107/386, 27%]

— SHO Stats (@SHOStats) July 13, 2014

Posted July 13, 2014 1:12 pm 


TJ

BEARS

Right now, Canelo is no match for GGG. Canelo has stamina problems that can be taken advantage of and GGG has a fine body attack, which is accurate and will sap him early.
Canelo doesn’t move his head or upper body enough for a guy who is quite flat footed which made him quite an easy target early for Lara boxing off the back foot.
GGG defends well as he comes in and cuts of the ring and territory of a fighter, usually defending himself as he does this. I will admit that this is CANELO’S best chance of success, ie catching GGG on his way in to range, with his great head-body-head combinations…. But, for Canelo to be successful he will need a full tank and he showed me last night that he doesn’t trust himself as there were periods where he could have opened up on Lara, but wouldn’t or couldn’t!

I see it as a slow, painful dissection as GGG gets the range quickly and then systematically takes away CANELO’S strengths of accurate combos, physical strength and decent counter-punching.

I see him as confused as he was in the Mayweather fight, but this time shipping hard counters to his body and being stopped on his feet sometime close to halfway.

I hope I’m wrong and Canelo can give him a fight…

Having said this, I’ve just had a thought….

Are you calling this fight at 155lbs?

If so, and GBP can negotiate some other stuff, then it becomes more of a toss up as GGG hasn’t made 155 as a pro…. It all depends on Canelo getting a start and foothold in the fight and being MENTALLY TOUGH….

A reputation is sometimes built on facts and often times imagination….

At Middleweight I believe GGG rolls over Cinnamon, but at 155, then, yes, we may have an even contest!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:11 pm 


Old Coot

@ Love-the-Sport: Good post… I totally agree, however, as you alluded was possible, I had it either a tie or SD edge for Lara, because I thought HE won round 6. Great, close fight, as I expected though, and would like to see a re-match which I’m calling for Lara because I think he has more adjustment ability than Alvarez and will win a UD by next time, better utilizing his quicker in and out footwork to take more advantage of Alvarez’s sluggish forward movement like the way Mayweather was able to.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:11 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Rt … You are such a tough guy and smart guy why don’t you respond to my challenges:

– Are you a paid employee of HBO, Al Heman, or Miguel Cotto?

– Can you provide a boxing analysis of how exactly Alvarez is such a bigger loser?

Again, tough guy, my analysis is simple: Alvarez WAS overrated. But he has developed into a very good fighter and he has fought very good very tough fights against the best in the world right now. Alvarez did not get wiped out or wobbled or knocked down or hurt in fights against Lara, Trout, or Mayweather. These fights were close. Even the Alvarez vs. Mayweather fight was close.

You are so smart and so tough. Respond to my challenge.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:10 pm 


Javielito

I’ve always thought that canelo is overrated who gets hyped because of his looks. Just look how the vast majority of his fans are women.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:09 pm 


$1000

@Rt – I like your list and after last nights performance, it’s seems pretty accurate to me amigo.

The Canelo loss list, Part#1

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather – L
Lara – L
Trout – Draw

GGG – L (KO)
Cotto – L
Pacquiao – L
Andrade – L
Thurman – L

Posted July 13, 2014 1:08 pm 


CANELO WON!!!!

Canelo’s body shots looked devastating. Lara WAS RUNNING. He was doing more unnecessary backwards pedaling than dodging Canelo’s punches. Know the difference!!! The whole night Lara avoided engaging Canelo. That’s called running.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:08 pm 


Javielito

So boxtradumbass. Why don’t you report your “fake users”. ESB tracks ip addresses. I remember someone posted using my name once and I reported them and ESB banned that person, or at least no one ever used my name.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:07 pm 


$1000

I would have to agree with @Rt’s list.

Canelo gets beaten by every fighter on that list. He’s not as good as I once thought. I’ve been watching him and he’s not improving at all. He beats C fighters, but loses to fighters that can stick and move.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:05 pm 


Anonymous

both are lucky to be fighting in a weak ERA.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:05 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Brilliant fight? Despite Canelo having won, it wasn’t a brilliant fight. In fact, Canelo’s performance makes Oscar Bonavena look like Muhammad Ali.

Posted July 13, 2014 1:02 pm 


Rt

@Love-the-Sport

Just so up you know I have Ph.D. I also boxed as an amateur for six years. I’ve been watching boxing since I was five. Don’t insult me or I’ll come to your house and smack a burrito out of your ass. Stay in your lane punk!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:01 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Hmmm, that’s interesting. I remember you predicting this Boxtra$$wipe:”-Well thats why we don’t ask guys that need to take a REMEMBERING class. MY final prediction and the only one that I have been shouting for the last few weeks was Canelo by TWO blind MICE decision. And I was CORRECT on that. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 1:00 pm 


realboxing

Lara was afraid of canelo. Lara ran all night avoiding the fight. The boxing need more canelo style than lara style. Canelo represents money. Lara mmmh… american dream? Easy decisión.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:59 pm 


$1000

I’ll Bet anyone on this site $1000 dollars that Canelo would get knocked out by GGG easy. Ward would kill Canelo! Pacquioua out points Canelo. Dela Hoya wears fishnets for Canelo.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:58 pm 


Javielito

I scored the fight for Lara. 7 to 5, but I still felt he did not deserve to win. After all the trash talking, and the over confindence, after the talk about how he was going to take Canelo to Mexican boxing school. I’m sorry, but I have a big problem with fighters who hype the crap out of themselves just to go out there and start running. I know ring generalship and that was not ring generalship. If you want to see ring generalship then go watch the DLH vs. Trinidad fight. That was masterful ring generalship by DLH. I score fight based on who I would like in that fght and after the cut and all the thudding body shots I would not have wanted to be Lara. Lara’s ribs have to be killing him today. On another note neither fighter was willing to give the other credit. It if clear that the animosity was very real.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:58 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Rt … I think Alvarez WAS over-rated. I think Alvarez WAS pampered in his development. But I think Alvarez is now a very good fighter.

I assume you are actually a paid employee of either HBO, Al Heyman, or Miguel Cotto … because what you are saying is so silly.

To be fair,

Alvarez vs. Trout was close … could have been a draw.
Alvarez vs. Lara was close … could have gone either way.
Alvarez vs. Mayweather … was closer than people suggest as the judges scores showed vs. popular rhetoric.

These were three good tough close fights between three good tough elite fighters.

Rt you are a stupid person. These were not wipeout losses by Alvarez were the judges totally robbed the decisions. These were good tough close fights. Your analysis makes it sound like Alvarez got knocked down 5-6 times in these fights and still won a decision. Your analysis makes it sound like Alvarez got wobbled all night in these fights and still won a decision.

You are a stupid stupid person. These were good tough fights against the best in the world right now and Alvarez fought well. He did not get wiped out.

In terms of future fights, Alvarez vs. Thuman … Thuman a big favorite? Thuman is at 147 pounds and is 5’6″. He doesn’t appear to gain much weight in his fights. So to say Thuman is a big favorite is just stupid. I would say basically the same thing about Alvarez vs. Pacquiao — where Pacquiao would have the advantage in speed and experience but he would be so much lighter in the fight. Cotto is a pick-em fight. Cotto would not be a huge favorite. Golovkin would be slightly favored against the smaller Alvarez but it would be a good fight.

In summary, Rt you are either an idiot or you being paid by HBO, Al Heyman, or Miguel Cotto.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:57 pm 


LARA GOT ROBBED

Lara clearly beat Canelo. Canelo is a blown up bum.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:56 pm 


Canelo WON

There a bunch of sore loses here. You all said Canelo was scared of Lara. Then he fought him. You all said he gonna get tested with Angulo. He won. You all said Trout was gonna give him a beating. He won. Now it’s GGG by KO? Wtf? Canelo’s career has just begun. GGG, who the hell has he beaten, that’s worth even mentioning? Lara should look to fight him next. Lara vs GGG. The winner gets Canelo. Then we will see where GGG stands.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:52 pm 


Rt

Canelo got the nod cause he’s the draw on a GBP card. I’m sure he went to dinner with the judge who had it wide. You could look in his eyes after the fight and see that he knew he lost. Watch the tape, he had the same expression when Floyd exposed him.

I would love to see him challenge anyone on my Canelo loss list and no wear the same expression when the fight is over. He’s a strong kid, takes great head shots, but he’s no Boxing savior.

He’s just a good looking kid, with a Mexican following and Mexican-American company behind him.
Oscar is looking more and more like the Kings and Arums of the boxing world each day. At the least, you could say that Schaefer exhibited integrity in the sport. Oscar is becoming what he vowed to fight against. “The problem in boxing.” Ex Cocaine head, transvestite who pays the judges off on his cards. It’s sad.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:52 pm 


Jonn E. JaGozza

Who is next for Canelo ? I’d like to see him go up against Andre Ward if Ward still wants to fight and of course the fight would be at a catch weight .. Boxingdictionary.com … ” The Language of the Ring “

Posted July 13, 2014 12:50 pm 


the truth

Mayweather lost lara lost deal with it grab a tissue

Posted July 13, 2014 12:49 pm 


Javielito

Boxtradumbass!? You are trying to get boxtradumbass to admit thag he was wrong? This guys is such a imbecile is pathetic. If you scroll down a few threads you will see him this comment ” Lara my mind boggling PERFORMANCE of the year KO! Despite the other postings I stand by my pick. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!”. I believe this is his “ACTUAL” prediction because he always writes that skills are more inportant than [insert attribute!]. Then on the same thread he writes this comment “Powerhands and Kato- AGAIN I pick Canelo by TKO. Please do not fall for the phonies. If LARA wins then i will be WRONG, something my FAKES are hell bent on making me look wrong.”. Now jeez. I never met a guy who had so many fakes here in ESB…or at least claims to. Could it be that boxtradumbass is just a flip flopping, self- aggrandizing idiot? The simplest answer is must likely the correct one?

Posted July 13, 2014 12:48 pm 


te tumbo

116-112 for Canelo on my scorecard all-day easy. Lara landed seven good shots the entire fight. Canelo landed at least twice that many solid body-shots and that’s not counting the handful of solid head shots he also managed to land, which wasn’t easy v. a Lara constantly backpedaling for his professional life and that’s what we watched last night. a glaring display of self-preservation in anticipation of future paydays that should never be confused with Fighting. Canelo wasn’t perfect either with his think-long-thing-wrong tendencies but he was in Lara’s face the entire fight and eager for a competition if defensive and offensive skills but Lara was only interested in hijacking the sport for his own selfish agenda. I’m not buying it. to the end of the line with that weak crap and i’m glad that Lara’s shameful lack of fighting spirit was rejected by the scorecards.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:47 pm 


@ CALLINGyou OUT ESB!

is that you hidalgo??

Posted July 13, 2014 12:46 pm 


Rt

The Canelo loss list, Part#1

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather – L
Lara – L
Trout – Draw

GGG – L (KO)
Cotto – L
Pacquiao – L
Andrade – L
Thurman – L

Canelo cannot deal with boxers. Honestly, the reinvented Cotto will knock Canelo down. GGG will knock him out. Pacquiao would out point him. Andrade might even stop Canelo. He’s too flat-footed and one dimensional. He’s a come forward Mexican slugger-fighter with no lateral movement. Any disciplined boxer-puncher who knows how to throw straight punches and step to the left away from the left hook, can beat Canelo easily.

The key to beating Canelo is to have enough pop in your straight shots to slow down his forward momentum. Another key is to not stay too long in the pocket. Throw your shots. Then step away.

Canelo needs to improve on his movement. Honestly, for his style, I would put him with Freddie Roach. If he doesn’t improve, Dela Hoya will have to pay more judges in the future.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:45 pm 


@ CALLINGyou OUT ESB!

Who are you? LOL

Posted July 13, 2014 12:43 pm 


Anonymous

Mayweather lost lara lost deal with it grab a tissue

Posted July 13, 2014 12:43 pm 


Canelo WON

Cry me a river. It was a 50/50. A pick em fight. The same can be a said for Lara. If he knew he needed a KO to win convincingly then why the hell would you spend the entire night running? So yea body shots did count more and Canelo turned up the heat in the mid rounds as well. Lara did not take the opportunity given to him. Now he has to move on. Try a marathon…

Posted July 13, 2014 12:40 pm 


BEARS

i still feel bad for lara. lara from beginning to end wanted to make it about cuba vs mexico a the end going asfar to say “every mexican that watched and every mexican here know i won”

that crowd was LOUD and into that fight and it was a mexican house and crowd and they boo’ed the heck out of larA. the build up was intense.

canelo has faced runner styles that can make any fight look crappy but canelos body attack was brutal and he cut lara bad with a SWEET uppercut landing the best punch of the fight guranteed.

i would not doubt lar is like bradley after provo. urinating blood. his body or his liver has to be hurting bad

Posted July 13, 2014 12:39 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Somebody named Hpdibidbee … is just learning about boxing.

So, let me go very slow so those of you who are learning about boxing (like hibdeebibdee) can try to keep up.

(1) Alvarez vs. Lara was a close fight

(2) Lara was largely inactive in the middle rounds

(3) Alvarez was tired and lossed the last 3 rounds — but he was not gassed and totally inactive

Fight could have gone either way. Split decision for Alvarez was totally fair. If Alvarez had come on strong in the final 3 rounds, Alvarez wins easily. If Alvarez had connected with any hard shots to the head, Alvarez wins easily.

Anybody who disagrees should give the board their score – ROUND BY ROUND — because you can’t do it this way and not get a close fight.

In summary, I hope this helps hibdeebibdee who knows very little about boxing and this was probably his first fight that he has seen.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:38 pm 


Syd Convoy

My initial score card was 7 rounds to 5 for Lara. After re-watching the fight, however, many of the close rounds (such as Round 6) were not as close as I had originally thought. Lara landed the much cleaner, crisper punches. Canelo was stalking, he missed numerous times, and he was often relegated to attacking the body (some of these punches were blocked), which proved ineffective throughout the fight, as it did not slow Lara down. In my early post, I said a draw was justifiable, but watching the fight again, I wholeheartedly believe Lara to be the victor.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:36 pm 


BEARS

runnings dead when fraud mayweather retires

Posted July 13, 2014 12:34 pm 


CALLINGyou OUT ESB!

WHAT HAPPENED TO JOSEPH HERRON ESB? WHAT HAPPENED YOU LOW-LIFE SNAKES?

Posted July 13, 2014 12:34 pm 


CALLINGyou OUT ESB!

EASTSIDEBOXING KICKS PEOPLE OFF THEIR WEBSITE WITHOUT GIVING THEM WARNING OR NOTICE FIRST, AND THEN THEY DON’T EVEN LET PEOPLE KNOW AFTERWARDS WHY THEY KICKED THEM OFF THE SITE.

THAT’S SOME LOW BULLSH*T TO BE PULLING ON LOYAL ESB BOXING FANS!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 12:33 pm 


hibdeebibdee

Hmmmm, or did Boxtra$$2ipe say:

Boxtradamus
Lara by School HOUSE decision.
Posted May 6, 2014 8:30 pm

Boxtradamus
Lara by SCHOOL HOUSE Decision.
Posted April 14, 2014 1:05 am

My, my, my! Nearly three months ago the real Boxtra$$wipe made the above predictions. And there was no other “Boxtradamus” making any other predictions on either of those two discussion threads.

Truly, Boxtra$$wipe should change his name to “FLIP-FLOP-ADAMUS.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:19 pm 


CANELO WON. END OF STORY.

.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:06 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“Also, I wish Alvarez connected to the head with something — ANYTHING — big. I don’t think Alvarez hit Lara with anything hard to the heady. ”

Then how do you figure Canelo won the fight? On body shots alone? Get real.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:01 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“Round 3 and round 6 could have gone either way.”

See, Love-the-sport, you even doubt your own scoring so WTF you doing going around challenging people to challenge your scores? Imbecile.

Posted July 13, 2014 12:00 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“I want anybody to challenge me on the following”

Why? You think you are the only one who scored correctly? You turning into another Boxtra$$wipe?

Posted July 13, 2014 11:59 am 


JUM

Truth is Lara makes opponents look bad. Good for him but not good for the boxing business. Canelo was the aggressor, good match. Lara will continue to be avoided, wgy? Southpaw who does not make opponent look good. Kudos for Alvarez for taking the fight. He wasnt stupid, he just was taking on a challenge that fighters in the past did.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:54 am 


Love-the-Sport

Close fight. I had the fight 7 rounds for Alvarez, 5 rounds for Lara. (115-113 for Alvarez).

I want anybody to challenge me on the following:

Round 1 = Lara with good 1-2 combinations
Round 2 = Alvarez with good, big combinations to the body
Round 3 = Lara with big 1-2 combination to end round but very close
Round 4 = Alvarez with big body shots
Round 5 = Alvarez with good body shots but mostly cause Lara was inactive
Round 6 = Alvarez with good body shots, Lara hard 1-2 so very close round
Round 7 = Alvarez with huge uppercut cuts Lara and big body shots
Round 8 = Alvarez with bigger punches although Lara finds left-right hook combo
Round 9 = Alvarez again with bigger body punches, Lara with left-right hook combo but just not enough activity
Round 10 = Lara round with good 1-2s as Alvarez starts to slow down
Round 11 = Lara round, both fighters tired, Alvarez much less active
Round 12 = Lara round definitively with good 1-2s, Alvarez reaches, swings, and misses, tries to come hard but did not do enough

Round 3 and round 6 could have gone either way. If you score both rounds 3 and 6 for Alvarez then you get a 8 round to 4 round win for Alvarez (116-112).

If you score both round 3 and 6 for Lara then you get 7 round to 5 round win for Lara (115-113).

Alvarez improved his stamina. He is still not good in the late rounds. He was not gassed and totally inactive — but he still lost last the 3 rounds. If Alvarez ends the fight strong then Alvarez would have won easily in my opinion.

Also, I wish Alvarez connected to the head with something — ANYTHING — big. I don’t think Alvarez hit Lara with anything hard to the heady.

Good fight. Alvarez improving — maybe on his way to becoming a great fighter. Not there yet.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:40 am 


The Mad Scientist

Lara felt and seen the difference between Canelo and Angulo last night.. he knew that if he stopped and let his hands go he’d get ktfo..Canelo is no joke, he can fight going forward or backwards without taking any silly shots in the process..great job Canelo, you got the haters and the Cotto fangirls feeling shooked and insecure of your talent

Posted July 13, 2014 11:38 am 


TARK

To all of you out there that are not on my level as an expert, I told you that was going to be the outcomes.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:20 am 


Tachyon

Same thing with Canelo Lara won the fight Canelo was missing all night long judges gave it to him and remember one judge even had Canelo winning 117-111 against Mayweather when Mayweather pitched a shut out winning every round.
Where is the rematch clause Canelo vs Lara fight being that close should be immediate rematch they ranted about rematch for Maidian where is the up roar for lara ? As I said before ODH fights are always crooked even when he was a champion fights were suspect Ika won 7 rounds ODH on won 4 but oh he won the champion ship rounds balloney all the rounds are champion ship rounds 7-4 Ika won the fight but judges gave it to ODH, Sturm beat ODH all night long judges gave it to ODH. Pernell lande more shots on ODH by compubox than anybody had yet beat ODH judges gave it to him. Boxing is a not about skill its a predicatable game now and when its an ODH fighter you know they already have one judge in the pocket.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:19 am 


hibdeebibdee

“Canelo WON by TWO blind MICE decision just as I predicted! !!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!”

Hmmm, that’s interesting. I remember you predicting this Boxtra$$wipe:

Boxtradamus
Canelo by CUBAN CRUSHING late stoppage!
Posted July 2, 2014 12:37 pm

Posted July 13, 2014 11:17 am 


Kofi Langton

Professional boxing is not only judged by punches landed. There are several other factors that determine the outcome of the fight. Yes Lara landed 10 more punches than Canelo did (in a 12 round fight that’s less than one punch per round). But Canelo was pressing the action all night. Lara was backing up the whole fight and that’s why Canelo got the W.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:09 am 


Popkins

Good fight, and great win for Canelo! I don’t think he’ll ever reach the level of a prime Mayweather and prime Pacman, but very few boxers do. Fights with GGG and Cotto are exciting 50/50 match ups. Alvarez should aim for Miguel first as he’s THE man at 160, then defend against Golovkin. They’re two of the best fights in boxing that can be made.

Posted July 13, 2014 11:05 am 


BEARS

canelo beats cotto in a SUPERFIGHT

canelo vs 3g would be a ridulous superfight!! one for the ages.

people think 3g is a beast because he is. anyone that watches 3g knows they are watching a total BEAST

Posted July 13, 2014 11:05 am 


BEARS

the runner style

Posted July 13, 2014 11:03 am 


BEARS

canelo will smoke cotto if they fight. canelo vs 3g would be an ATG epic battle replayed for decades on espn classic. i have to watch more quillen tape but i bet canelo woukd take him out too.

his next fights ideally should be quillen, cotto, 3g. talk about EPIC

great scalp for canelo to reap. too bad lara ran more thAn he did vs trout.

WHEN MAYWEATHER GOES SO DOES SUPPORT FOR

Posted July 13, 2014 11:02 am 


Hosteen

Brilliant fight? Canelo is not a bum but he was clearly outboxed and lost to Lara last night?

Posted July 13, 2014 11:00 am 


Racist

Red on Head will KTFO of Cotto. Just the way it is bro, just the way it is. Canelo New Middleweight Champion. And……who was FM.?

Posted July 13, 2014 10:57 am 


flashy k.o

Canelo will entertain us with lots of action packed fights. He has a clean boxing style with crisp nice combos. I agree that he’s a flatfooted fighter and he has to learn better how to cut off the ring.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:46 am 


Prince

Why is Golovkin mentioned all the time? Who has he beat? No one noteworthy. The guy is very overhyped and needs some wins over credible opponents before being mentioned as a serious force!

Posted July 13, 2014 10:46 am 


ACCUBOX

Joker: it may or may not be but as long as it lasts could Mayweather keep him off him? I think James has a little more speed than Marcos and also bigger and heavier of hand? I not 100% saying he would win but I just think it will be a fun fight while it lasts? The Mayweather of seven years ago would absolutely schooled him and play keep away while potshot him to no end. I’m not sure this version has the same legs and speed as that version to do that

Posted July 13, 2014 10:39 am 


flashy k.o

Lara vs Demetrius Andrade/Jermell De’Avante Charlo would be some interesting matches.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:37 am 


Stilltoosalty

Choky
Just cuz u got 1 blk friend doesn’t not mean u r not racists. Just like I don’t care for PAC, I was happy Bradley won the 1st fight but I also know the judges or system cheated PAC in that fight. You are conditioned to think, believe and see one way. U don’t even realize u doin it. Stilltoosalty and Canelo still a bum. Now y’all know it.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:31 am 


Stilltoosalty

Choky
Just cuz u got 1 blk friend doesn’t not mean u r not racists. Just like I don’t care for PAC, I was happy Bradley won the 1st fight but I also know the judges or system cheated PAC in that fight. You are conditioned to think, believe and see one way. U don’t even realize u doin it. Stilltoosalty and Canelo still a bum.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:30 am 


Rt

The list of flat footed fighters Canelo can beat:
Kirkland

Posted July 13, 2014 10:27 am 


Rt

Rt

Rt

The Canelo loss list, Part#1

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather – L
Lara – L
Trout – Draw

GGG – L (KO)
Cotto – L
Pacquiao – L
Andrade – L
Thurman – L

Canelo cannot deal with boxers. Honestly, the reinvented Cotto will knock Canelo down. GGG will knock him out. Pacquiao would out point him. Andrade might even stop Canelo. He’s too flat-footed and one dimensional. He’s a come forward Mexican slugger-fighter with no lateral movement. Any disciplined boxer-puncher who knows how to throw straight punches and step to the left away from the left hook, can beat Canelo easily.

The key to beating Canelo is to have enough pop in your straight shots to slow down his forward momentum. Another key is to not stay too long in the pocket. Throw your shots. Then step away.

Canelo needs to improve on his movement. Honestly, for his style, I would put him with Freddie Roach. If he doesn’t improve, Dela Hoya will have to pay more judges in the future.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:26 am 


keep it real

reading these comments I just gave Lara another round and now got him winning by 2 rounds. lol.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:23 am 


ant

Canlo vs kirkland sounds like a great fight…

Posted July 13, 2014 10:21 am 


flashy k.o

I must say Lara has a great footwork and a great jab – best in the game. The win could’ve gone either way but Canelo deserved it because he landed the most power shots. The body attack was the key to slow down Lara and Canelo applied it very well.

As for Canelo’s next opponent I’d say he should look after a fight with Cotto and then GGG @160.The hype and the interest for this fight would be much bigger with Canelo possibly winning the MW WBC title from Cotto and with GGG beating Geale and then have an unification title fight with Soliman.

p.s I’d like to salute El Chicano ! :)))

Posted July 13, 2014 10:19 am 


Rt

The Canelo loss list, Part#1

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather – L
Lara – L
Trout – Draw

GGG – L (KO)
Cotto – L
Pacquiao – L
Andrade – L

Canelo cannot deal with boxers. Honestly, the reinvented Cotto will knock Canelo down. GGG will knock him out. Pacquiao would out point him. Andrade might even stop Canelo. He’s too flat-footed and one dimensional. He’s a come forward Mexican slugger-fighter with no lateral movement. Any disciplined boxer-puncher who knows how to throw straight punches and step to the left away from the left hook, can beat Canelo easily.

The key to beating Canelo is to have enough pop in your straight shots to slow down his forward momentum. Another key is to not stay too long in the pocket. Throw your shots. Then step away.

Canelo needs to improve on his movement. Honestly, for his style, I would put him with Freddie Roach. If he doesn’t improve, Dela Hoya will have to pay more judges in the future.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:19 am 


ant

Lara has no one to blame but himself…..its the same thing that happened to del hoya vs Trinidad…lara knew he couldn’t just barely out point…the ppv star….he should have done more…

Posted July 13, 2014 10:15 am 


Rt

Once again boxing is a science. I hit you, I evade your punches. I score points when I hit you. I avoid your punches and I win. It is not rock ‘em sock ‘em robots. I do stand and we trade shots. Any fighter with Parkinson’s, brain damage or slurred speech will tell you that.

It is a science. Jack Johnson, Sugar Ray Robinson, Leonard, Ali, Mayweather, Pernell Whitaker will all tell you the same thing. It’s not about standing in front of a guy and just taking punishment. Boxing is about inflicting punishment, but avoiding receiving it on your end.

They have bar fights, backyard brawls, and MMA for those to can’t comprehend what boxing is.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:13 am 


Rt

With fair judging, who wins this math?

#ShoStats: Total Punches Landed/Thrown
thru 12
Canelo [97/415, 23%]
Lara [107/386, 27%]

Posted July 13, 2014 10:08 am 


choky

i agree with the truth – lara lost the fight – u cant give the victory to a guy fighting this way – i am no fan of mayweather style but he throw more punches in one round than lara in one fight.
@stilltoosalty if u believe that i am racist my favourite fighter of all times is marvin hagler –
lara is very talented but u need to do more to win a fight

Posted July 13, 2014 10:06 am 


Rt

Peej, have you ever been in a math class? Boxing is a point system. Once again, just common sense. I land more shots and don’t get knocked down to relinquish my points wins, I win the fight. Like I said I understand that some want to stay on the Canelo band wagon, but Canelo is overrated. We’ve seem him out boxed by three fighters on this level. Trout, Mayweather and now. Lara.

It is what it is, numbers don’t lie man. If I have more money in my bank account then you, then I’ll have a bigger house than you. It’s basic mathematics man. Don’t be delusional.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:05 am 


keep it real

Brilliant? not unless mediocre is the new brilliant. I had Lara by one round and not going to dispute the result but brilliant he was not.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:04 am 


Rt

If Marquez was younger and heavier, he would beat Canelo. Marquez in my opinion is a better technician than Canelo. The kid is just stronger with a better chin. Lara won, but he could’ve done even more to make the decision wider. He never really sat down on his punches and threw combinations, which I’ve seen him do in the past. He had opportunities to land combinations to the body and head, but chose to protect his head from shots and keep his defensive. I’m not mad at Lara for being safety first in the fight. Even using that style, he still landed clean one-twos on Canelo all night long. Canelo connected with only 24 head shots in 12 rounds. That’s crazy low for a fighter who is supposed to be the future of boxing. That’s two shots a round and we all saw his head get popped back several times a round by Lara all night.

Lara beat the kid, but the politics of boxing stole the victory. It’s a shame.

Posted July 13, 2014 10:01 am 


PEEJ

Punch stats don’t mean anything. Can’t judge a fight by that. And I believe Canelo landed more power shots than Lara per those punch stats. Lara just landed way more jabs. But still I had Lara winning this fight. What gets me is there are a lot of websites and boxing scribes who scored it a draw and or a win for Canelo. I had Lara winning by 2 rounds

Posted July 13, 2014 10:00 am 


Rt

Numbers don’t lie. Canelo was outlanded in jabs and power shots. He lost–plain and simple and was giving the hometown, Golden Boy decision. I understand the Mexican fan affinity for the so-called next golden boy, but Canelo is overhyped and overrated. He’s not as good as they make him seem to be. He needs to improve greatly in order to be considered great. He was beat a guy nearly 40, then beat by a guy 7 years older then he is.

After watching Canelo throughout the years and studying his weaknesses. Here is my list of fighters he loses to–flat out. To the Mexican Canelo fans, don’t be delusional. Don’t vote with your heart, vote with your eyes. If I hit you more, I win on points. It’s basic math. I shouldn’t win because I sold the tickets. Boxing is not a popularity contest.

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather
Lara

GGG
Cotto
Pacquiao
Andrade

Canelo cannot deal with boxers. Honestly, the reinvented Cotto will knock Canelo down. GGG will knock him out. Pacquiao would out point him. Andrade might even stop Canelo. He’s too flat-footed and one dimensional. He’s a come forward Mexican slugger-fighter with no lateral movement. Any disciplined boxer-puncher who knows how to throw straight punches and step to the left away from the left hook, can beat Canelo easily.

The key to beating Canelo is to have enough pop in your straight shots to slow down his forward momentum. Another key is to not stay too long in the pocket. Throw your shots. Then step away.

Canelo needs to improve on his movement. Honestly, for his style, I would put him with Freddie Roach. If he doesn’t improve, Dela Hoya will have to pay more judges in the future.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:53 am 


Hosteen

Canelo is not a bum but he also did not beat Lara last night

Posted July 13, 2014 9:52 am 


Stilltoosalty

The truth

The truth is a lie, Canelo didn’t land anything stop lying. You knw he lost bet u d@m near fainted when u heard the decision. Canelo missed by a mile with his punches. Lara fought the same way he always fight. Stop please trying to convince us to side with u. Boxing is like the courts in the US, where the u can shoot someone and plead self defense when the entire world knows your guilty but u still when a verdict. Same here Canelo lost the entire world knows it too even the racist, he is done. No more of my Money will go toward a great fake bum white/redhead Mexican fake bum.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:49 am 


Papo

I picked Lara to win by close decision and believe he did enough to win, but not enough to back up his mouth. Though, to be fair, Canelo did say he was going to punish Lara as well for being “disrespectful to him and the Mexican people”.

I stand by my comments about Canelo, at least for the time been, he’s not this great fighter promoters are trying to make us believe. I still can see how guys like Hecdog, Te Tumbo, JCC is Chapo’s DADDY, BEARS, etc. thought Canelo was going to KO Lara. They even used words like vicious stoppage, dramatic KO, or like Te Tumbo stated, “a demonstration of breakaway talent and skills by Canelo over Lara who i suspect has no idea what he’s in for”.

Even a shot Angulo did much better against Lara than this young Canelo.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:45 am 


Stilltoosalty

How the hell could Lara not throw enough punches to win, when The punch out put was nearly identical. If anyone had Canelo wining this fight, is blind or racists or both. Froch moves and box, y’all call it brilliant. Let a blk man do it, it’s running. We and even Canelo knows who really won. Canelo is still a bum. He landed some good body punches and 1 upper cut, and they give him the d&m fight. He is a bum and he knows it, now y’all know it, I already knew it.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:40 am 


the truth

You cant win fights when u land 55 jabs out of 107 total punches.. canelo landed 86 power punches on a guy who literally ran all night.. F Lara and his running ways.. he talked all this mess, why didn’t he stand and fight like he did trout or Angulo..

Posted July 13, 2014 9:39 am 


Anonymous

Lara won alvarez cannot beat slick fighters alvarez fights one way he lost lara made him look bad in home court advantage boxing has too much politics.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:38 am 


Rt

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather
Lara

GGG
Cotto
Pacquiao
Andrade

Canelo cannot deal with boxers. Honestly, the reinvented Cotto will knock him down. GGG will knock him out. Pacquiao would out point him. Andrade might even stop Canelo. He’s too flat-footed and one dimensional. He’s a come forward fighter with no lateral movement. Any fighter who knows how to throw straight punches and step to left can beat Canelo easily.

Canelo needs to improve on his movement. Honestly, for his style, I would put him with Freddie Roach. If he doesn’t improve Dela Hoya will have to pay more judges in the future.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:37 am 


Joker

RE: accubox

Kirkland’s chin is shot. Mayweather might ko him, and i havent predicted a TBE ko in years.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:32 am 


Boxtradamus

Canelo WON by TWO blind MICE decision just as I predicted! !!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 13, 2014 9:32 am 


Rt

Rt

The numbers don’t lie. Canelo was beaten last night for the 2nd time in his career. He’s an overrated GBP fighter who got a gift last night from the paid off judges.

#ShoStats: Total Punches Landed/Thrown
thru 12
Canelo [97/415, 23%]
Lara [107/386, 27%]

Posted July 13, 2014 9:14 am

Posted July 13, 2014 9:29 am 


ACCUBOX

as for this particular topic I would like to see Alvarez versus go to cotto. I would also actually like to see Mayweather get some balls and take on Kirkland because that is exactly the type of fighter that has the best chance of beating him. He doesn’t have enough return firepower keep him off for too long and it would be 12 rounds of drama seeing if Kirkland could get him. Does he still have the legs to do so?

Posted July 13, 2014 9:23 am 


ACCUBOX

Where is Boxstra? I can’t believe I wasted all this time thinking he was truly the greatest then he goes and pulls a stunt last night of saying he was the one that picked Alvarez by two blind mice decision that was clearly one of his impostors. We all know he picked Alvarez by Cuban crushing TKO. I also simply cannot wait to hear with the tru Oracle will have to say about that this one.

Posted July 13, 2014 9:21 am 


Joker

first off it wasnt a “fight”
secondly it wasnt “brilliant”

cheers

Posted July 13, 2014 8:51 am 


He glossed me!

Lara won the fight.

Posted July 13, 2014 8:48 am 



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