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TARK

STFU imposter… Lara won the fight by 5 or 6 rounds.

Posted July 19, 2014 10:42 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzzz

Well based on another pretty poor showing by Canelo GoldenFraude feels the only safe fight for Canelo is against 140lb Old shot Joshua Clottey.. LOL.. 140lb Josesito Lopez was already booked…

Posted July 18, 2014 4:11 pm 


Canelowins

Anonymous
The only corruption was paying to watch Canelo chase Lara around the ring…that was corruption.
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Damn straight.! And how the da Fk is it mexican corruption when the fight is IN the US. Do mexican fighters really have that kind of power? Thanks for the compliments but I doubt that.

Posted July 17, 2014 8:25 pm 


Anonymous

Oscar ran 3-4 rounds not the whole dam fight..

Posted July 16, 2014 3:46 pm 


Mexican Corruption Destroying USA Boxing

So watching Tito Trinidad chasing Oscar DelaRunner around the Ring for 12 rounds was corruption???

Posted July 16, 2014 2:17 pm 


Anonymous

The only corruption was paying to watch Canelo chase Lara around the ring…that was corruption.

Posted July 16, 2014 12:54 pm 


Mexican Corruption Destroying USA Boxing

Mexican Corruption is Destroying USA Boxing.. When you have A Corrupt Mexican Boxing Sanchioning body, A Corrupt Drug Addicted Mexican Boxing Promoter, A corrupt Mexican Judge giving the Bogus Win after Bogus wins to their Favorite Mexican Boxers you know it’s time for the USA to take a second look at our beloved Sport.. The Days of Boxing Fans respecting and appreciating the Sweet Science, the Sport where Hit and avoid getting hit ruled is replaced by who is the toughest and can take the most punches to the Face is when USA Boxing becomes just a Tijuana Cantina Tough man Contest…

Posted July 16, 2014 12:26 pm 


shaq

LEVI MARTINEZ…. 117-111…lol

Posted July 16, 2014 10:25 am 


Boxtradamus

No judges were bought off. They simply knew I had done my pick and that it was so. Their pencils followed correctly. I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!!

Posted July 15, 2014 10:58 am 


A Fighting Man

Saul is an overrated red head . Lara is a road runner but we all knew that long before this fight was made .. Saul should have been able to cut off the ring and punish Lara to the body until his head came off , but no he has not the athletic prowess to accomplish this task …

Any of the title holders at 160 will end this ugly red headed step childs career , and send him from the ring in tears ..Oscar also .

Posted July 15, 2014 6:37 am 


Anonymous

You cant’ win a fight by running. Lara was afraid to fight Alvarez. One left uppercut did more damage than all of Lara’s baby punches. If Lara wants to win a fight he needs to fight…………….I had the fight 117-111 for Alvarez, Lara did nothing but run like hell………………….

Alvarez would knock Cotto out…………………..Alvarez will probably fight Kirkland next, no way with he fight Golovkin. Golovkin would knock Alvarez out, he would also knock Cotto out as well as Lara, Soliman, Quillin, etc.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:37 am 


DaTruth ass Hurtzzz

Ladren PERROS! Canelo won! The only thing Lara showed Canelo was how NOT to impress the judges…haha

Posted July 14, 2014 8:54 pm 


Sellout Ref let Maidana use MMA to NO avail

Floyd showed Maidana that MMA is LESSER than Boxing. SO next time leave the MMA tactics at HOME and bring you some Boxing SKILLS to the Fight.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:32 pm 


Mexican Judge gave Canelo the win

The Sellout Judge, Levi Martinez who gave Canelo a 117 – 111 outrageous Victory is Mexican.. what else do you need to know??? LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 7:32 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Maybe they should consider closing down the cuban school for good..like Canelo said the greatest cuban fighter learn their craft in mexico..Lol!

Posted July 14, 2014 5:30 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Stilltosalty if your so happy that Canelo has to losses do to public opinion why are you so mad bro..just move on already and stop beating on a dead horse..Lol

Posted July 14, 2014 5:28 pm 


kato3388

The One Main Thing that Lara proved is that Cuban Boxing School needs to stay right where it is…. In Cuba.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:01 pm 


Hecdog

Lara won the fight IMHO as I have mentioned a few times, but others don’t want to see it that way. I have watched the fight over several times without bias and trying to even give Canelo as Many rounds as I could to give him the benefit of the doubt and it does not work. Please turn off the volume, score the fight by the following criteria: Clean Punching (Lara), Ring Generalship (Lara), Defense (Lara) Effective Agressiveness (Canelo was not effective) The punch numbers favored Lara. Canelo landed 24 head punches in 12 rounds?? I like Canelo as I have said and think he is going to be a great fighter one day, but he lost the fight. The Canelo crowd changes how they see punches when they are cheering at every punch Canelo throws even if he misses by a mile. Those Body punches were in just 2-3 rounds and many of them were caught on the arms and were not clean. I watched in slow motion. Lara, even though he didn’t throw a million punches, didn’t need to because they were so clean and crisp. The crowd was in awe throughout the fight. They were begging for Canelo to do anything, but Lara had them all tamed like a bunch of kittens. Lara’s defense, which includes moving, slipping, blocking and weaving is CRITERIA used to score each round. It was up to Canelo to find a strategy to stop Lara from doing those things like cut off the ring , and he didn’t. Lara had total control of the fight, and Canelo was desperate. Did you not see him miss by a mile. Lara moved right and Canelo was moving left. The man was confused and just plodded forward swinging for the fences. Lara was calm. cool and collected and he was a sharp shooter landing the jab, straight left to the head and body. Lara controlled the style and pace of the fight. Clean punches from Lara, Beautiful Ring generalship from Lara, Fantastic Defense from Lara and Canelo’s inability to use his Aggressiveness effectively all point to the obvious. Lara is the winner of this fight. Unfortunately, as real boxing fans know. The Cash Cow that has the big promoter(GBP/Oscar) in his pocket will rarely if ever lose a fight when he has a country (Mexico) behind him, and his fans come to pay their money to see him. They are doing a fabulous job of promoting Canelo. He’s slowly making the crossover to the USA fans. They market him on being the Red Headed, light skinned Mexican that is the greatest young fighter in history. Promoters will go at any lengths to make a connection between the young lion and the fans, which I guess is a smart move on there part, but in a fight, his opponents must not just beat him, but practically knock him out. This fight was a mere image of Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Whitaker dominated him in every way, but still lost because he was the boxer and used movement and defense instead of just slug it out. History always repeats itself. The sport will continue to be corrupt as long as fans let them do what they want.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:13 pm 


kato3388

@ REBEL – here, here… If Lara kept boxing the way he did in the 1st 3 rounds, he would’ve won. But he didn’t. He ran all night and didn’t throw anything effective.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:52 pm 


Rebel 227

If Lara kept boxing the way he did in first few rounds, I can see a case for him. He ran more than he boxed, so he lost the that case. I’m not a big fan of Mayweather Jr , but he actually boxes and doesn’t run like Lara did.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:43 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Anonymous – Are you talking about Delahoya vs Tito Trinidad??? LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 2:37 pm 


Anonymous

This is boxing, take a freaking chance. Ur getting paid over a million dollars, getting hurt comes with the territory. Dont come to run and expect a break from the judges after stealing a pay check you didnt earn. In this case lara was the opponent, he should have been the one trying to make the fight. I have no problem with 117-111, Lara won 3 of the first 4 rounds before going from saftey first to saftey first, last, and in between.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:29 pm 


Anonymous

Rolf Harris get back in your cell you child abusing tool. you have no trap from which to speak. Lay back and take it up your sh1tter like a good nonce.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:27 pm 


Anonymous

Man Lara will probably never get another opportunity nor should he after stinking the place up like that. He did prove one thing though, if need be he can run in a circle for 36 minutes. I actually liked Lara until this weekend, its BS to claim you win a fight when you dont even come to fight.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:21 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Gotta love all these Mexicans like (te Tumbo) now making the Case for why The Great Boriqua Tito Trinidad beat Delahoya like Canelo beat Lara who ran all night long like Delahoya.. Lara did not hurt or back up Canelo like DelaRunner vs Tito, Lara backpeddled all night long like Delahoya who Back peddled for 6 rounds and then Flat out Ran for the next 6 Rounds.. Yeap, Delahoya Clearly lost to Trinidad.. just like Lara Lost to Canelo.. Glad to see all these Mexicans especially Dumbo now see the light… Well, Lara’s Jabs did fk up Canelos Face pretty Baddly all night long while DelaRunner didn’t even give Tito a scratch.. LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 2:13 pm 


kato3388

I think landing 77 out of 88 Powershots to the body was pretty effective. If they weren’t effective, lara would’ve been as fresh in the later rounds as he was in the first 3. Lara’s best rounds were round 1 and 3. Round 2 I gave to Canelo. Round 4,5,6, Lara was running (evading) too much without throwing anything at all.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:04 pm 


stilltoosalty

The Mad Scientist

lol he already lost remember and a draw. with 2 other public opinion losses.

Posted July 14, 2014 1:55 pm 


The Mad Scientist

Same cry babies still out here debating the score cards thinking they’re are going to change the outcome of the fight..Lol! Just stop it already, it didn’t work for Pacquiao when got ktfo by JMM and it wont work for Lara..look haters, Canelo may lose one of these days its just not anytime soon but wait for it..Lol!

Posted July 14, 2014 1:21 pm 


moonshineman

Let Lara and Mayweather fight. It would be a marathon.

Posted July 14, 2014 1:19 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

They were watching the fight the one Honest Judge was watching. The Fight the Showtime Shills were watching who also gave the win to Lara.. LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 1:09 pm 


stilltoosalty

I mean this fight was easier to score for Lara than adding 1+1. Ivan Ivanov said he could barley find rds to even give Canelo. His score was similar to mine like I said 8-4 Lara or 9-to 3 Lara. Canelo Still BUM

Posted July 14, 2014 1:06 pm 


stilltoosalty

kato3388

its called Effective aggressiveness, with canelo its was called in-Effective aggressiveness ,where was he effective . He didn’t do anything in this fight and if you know boxing you would agree. I don’t care for either of the 2, I like boxing and this gift dec went to the money,house, slow plodder, miss all night figher that was made to look stupid.

Posted July 14, 2014 1:02 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

Lara won the fight and got robbed, the robbery is obvious by that ridiculous 117 scorecard. Lara had Alvarez dancing to his tune and not the other way around. Alvarez needs to step his game up, he failed to cut the ring off and take control, instead Lara controlled the fight with his style.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:53 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

Anyone scoring the fight that way scored it the same way the one honest Judge scored it, the way the SHO talking heads scored it who had it for Lara and the way all true Boxing Fans scored it.. Lara turned Canelo into a plodding Bobble head busting him up pretty badly.. Canelo’s face looked much worst then it did vs Mayweather..

Posted July 14, 2014 12:52 pm 


kato3388

@STILLTOOSALTY – and I said almost the same thing. But you saw it for Lara and I didn’t.
There is no scientific formula for judging fights. What do we think, that these people are the epitome of professionalism? What do we think they aren’t persuaded by their own subconscious inklings? Judges are people and falter the same as anyone of us. The 4 main criteria for judging a fight is clean punching, effective aggressiveness, ring generalship and defense.

Both fighters landed punches. Lara’s Landed 55 clean jabs to Canelos 9. However, Canelo Landed 88 power-shots to Lara’s 52. I am no judge but, there is no way that I can score a jab the same as I would a power-punch. Lara threw more punches but those punches were ineffective jabs. Canelo walked right through them.

Effective aggressiveness, Lara was not the aggressor at all. Just based on that alone, he didn’t win on that Criteria. Canelo, was the aggressor and made Lara pay whenever he connected to the body. And despite what Lara said, those body shots were effective. If those body shots weren’t effective, it wouldn’t have slowed him down… but it did.

Ring generalship, not even the Showtime guys could tell you exactly what ring generalship means. Paulie made the best case for it, but he’s the same type of boxer as Lara, so it’s easier for him to sympathize with that type of style. Runnin. Eithercase, why does ring generlship automatically favor the retreating fighter? It shouldn’t. What I saw was Canelo pressing the fight, taking the fight to Lara. but Lara would, run or use lateral movement to escape. He spent more time escaping and retreating than he did throwing punches. To me, Canelo was the ring general.

Defense, has to go to Lara. The point of boxing is to hit and not be hit. In that area, Lara is a true master of not getting hit. But what he failed to do was to couple that amazing defense with power-shots. If he threw more power shots he’d have probably won the fight. But he didn’t. In order to deliver a power shot, that’d mean Lara would have to plant his feet, and if he did that, then Canelo would be able to get to him.

Lara lost. PERIOD. He didn’t do enough and he ran all night.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:46 pm 


stilltoosalty

Bears

See you are giving you opinion again. Regardless of what you call it, the rules calls it Defense. Canelo looked DUMB in this fight, again answer the question MMA fans how would you want YOUR Son Trained, because if we go by what yall are saying, your sons will be sounding like Freddie Roach or worse ALi.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:36 pm 


B E A R S

i would not call running good defense or good ring generalship. boxing is about a fight. its about fighting/hitting. for most if boxings existence it was about fighting til there was a winner with no round limits. never has boxing been about running the clock out in a fight if lack luster actiontilthe clock runs out in hopes if eecking out a decision. thAt is not fighting hence it is not boxing.

canelo won aggression and ringgeneralship hands down he is the only one that made it a fight. i dont know if i wouldcall what lara did deffense. it was more like non fighting in a fight

Posted July 14, 2014 12:24 pm 


stilltoosalty

Not yall NON athletic fans/boxers want to change defense to running. SMH How would you train and teach your son if he was a boxer, to stand there and see who punches the hardest like a fool or use all of his GOD GIFTED tools to
Box.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:23 pm 


Rudy

SREDMOND is right about the less popular fighter needing to assert themselves more to avoid getting robbed. But then again, that didn’t pan out well for Maidana and Castillo against Mayweather. Sometimes the only way you can win is if you take the decision out of the judges hands and stop your opponent.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:22 pm 


stilltoosalty

kato3388

what are you basing your knowledge on, that’s not what or how professional boxing is scored. You are giving your opinion really that’s all. So basically you like fighting and not boxing. You don’t know boxing is what it seems like. I will enlighten you and the rest of the MMA fan and not boxing fan on this site. The scoring system does not say SH!t about no combination punching. Make sure YALL read what defense is, Defense is the ability to avoid punishment. A boxer with greater reach than his opponent may stay on
the outside and use his footwork to avoid punches. One might stay inside and slip punches.

Clean Punching

A clean punch is one that lands on a scoring area (face or side of head,
not including the back of the head; the front and sides of the torso)
with the knuckle portion of the glove. In amateur boxing, the scoring portion of the glove is white.
Though a professional glove lacks such markings, the scoring portion of the glove is basically the same.

Clean punches will land flush, not glancing or partially blocked by one’s opponent. “Slapping” or “backhanding” is not allowed.

Effective Aggressiveness

Effective aggression is demonstrated when a fighter presses forward,
and in doing so, scores more clean punches, or more damaging blows, than his opponent.
If a boxer is a particularly hard puncher, even blows that are not landed particularly clean,
but obviously affect his opponent, are given scoring weight.

Ring Generalship

The ability to control the pace and style of a fight is ring generalship. For instance,
a high volume-punching brawler will attempt to force a “stick and move” boxer into a slugfest.
Conversely, the pure boxer will attempt to slow the pace of the fight by keeping his opponent at the
end of his jab and use angles and feints in order to set up his heavier punches.

It is imperative that professional judges comprehend each fighter’s respective style in order to
understand who is controlling the action and demonstrating superior ring generalship.

Defense

Probably the most ignored, if not maligned, of the four judging criteria is defense.
There have been boxers who were such defensive wizards, such as Willie Pep, or Pernell Whitaker,
that it was virtually impossible for judges not to recognize their skill. It is said that Pep once won a round against
Jackie Graves in 1946 without landing a single punch. In truth, the featherweight Pep landed a few jabs during that round,
but such a story is remarkable only because it is so rare, as defense is so poorly appreciated.

Defense is the ability to avoid punishment. A boxer with greater reach than his opponent may stay on
the outside and use his footwork to avoid punches. One might stay inside and slip punches.
Another option is to block an opponent’s punches with one’s gloves, arms and shoulders, or the highly skilled fighter
may choose to use a combination of defensive techniques, depending on the situation.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:17 pm 


kato3388

This is what I mean when I saw, we are swayed by subconscious events.

Lara was talking all kindda smack about Canelo. Canelo would be taken to Cuban boxing school. He doesn’t have respect for Canelo…
Well, if you’re gonna talk $#!T, then you better be prepared to back your talk up. Running, escaping and evading is not backing your $#!T up!!!
It makes for good amateur and Olympic fights, but this is the PRO ranks, where people pay good $$$ to watch something exciting.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:11 pm 


Rolf Harris

I see the gollywogs are hitting the comments pages to defend Dirrells marathon partner Lara. Lara didn’t box – he didn’t throw power shots. He jabbed and ran sideways over 3 miles in the fight. He said he would beat the cracker, but he felt the crackers power and avoided exchanging.

Posted July 14, 2014 12:07 pm 


Montero (author)

Hello everyone, just wanted to add my two cents… Yes Lara landed more total punches (107) than Canelo (97), but you can’t always look at total punches to determine who won a fight. Lara landed 55 jabs to Canelo’s 9, definitely won the battle of the jab. However in regards to power punching, the Mexican landed 88 punches (73 to the body) compared to 52 for Lara. The consistently harder punches were thrown and landed by Canelo, bottom line. He was the fighter engaging, moving forward, about 90% of the time. Generally speaking, those are the attributes that sway judges in a close round. Most of the press ringside had it 115-113 to 116-112 for Canelo, with a sizable minority scoring it a draw. Very few in the media had Lara winning.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:49 am 


kato3388

If you scored the fight 9 – 3 or 8 – 4 for Lara, I’m not sure what fight you were watching… But this is why boxing is so subjective. We can all see the same exact thing and have 2 different opinions on what happened. I tend to favor aggressive fighters who press the action and who come to fight. I can admire lateral movements and defensive skills, but in order to score points based on that you’d have to add combinations to your skill set. Jab, Jab… 1,2…, 1,2…Run, run, run.. jab, run… 1,2.. jab, run, evade… run, run… doesn’t win rounds.

Lara landed only 10 more punches than Canelo, and they were jabs. A JAB, poeple. Lara’s jab was clean, but wasn’t effective.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:45 am 


SREDMOND

I did not see this contest but if you are the less popular fighter and you expect the judges to award you close bouts then you are a FOOL and deserve to lose… Lara should have known going in that his sometimes lackadaisical performances were not gonna cut it against Canelo.. Lara brings no fans and no sizzle to the plate, he should have sought to beat Alvarez senseless..

Posted July 14, 2014 11:34 am 


stilltoosalty

I was the ONLY one on this site putting the scores rd by rd and I ended it with 8-4 Lara, I cant argue with anyone if they had it 9-3 Lara. Canelo lost this fight. Stop trying to come up with what is a power shot, what is a jab etc. Float like a buttery fly sting like a bee, swim without getting wet, hit and not be hit. Lara did all of that. If you want to watch fighting GO TO MMA.. If a blk guy boxes you DUMB mutha!@#$ call it running, but when someone else does it, it beautiful boxing SMH. YALL STILL DONT KNOW SH!T BOUT BOXING.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:30 am 


kato3388

@ Joker – true… compubox only counts jabs, and any other punch as a power-shot. I get that. But Canelo was ripping bombs to the body, so there’s really no mistaking what he was throwing as power-shots.

I love boxing and I will sit through it more than once to make sure I can see what I thought I saw on fight night. Sometimes emotions get caught up in the fight and its not till the next day when I sit down and watch it again that I can see the nuances, and minor details that I might’ve missed on the night of the fight because I get emotionally involved in the fight.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:19 am 


Joker

@kato Well damn once was enough for me. You definitely deserve some cred for sitting through that snoozefest again, the point I was making was the ‘powershot’ moniker can be very misleading is all.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:13 am 


kato3388

@Joker – I’d hardly call those jabs hard or effective.
A few jolted Canelo but those body shots were ripping on Lara. You can see it for Lara however you want to. After watching the fight twicey.. I still gave it to Canelo.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:05 am 


Joker

@kato3388

IMO hard, clean jabs to the head should and will impress a judge way more than bodyshots. Doesnt matter that they are called ‘powershots’ in compubox lol.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:00 am 


hibdeebibdee

“To say that Lara definitively won or that Alvarez definitively won is just silly. ”

Oh really? Didn’t you recently call out ANYONE to challenge your scores of 7 rounds to 5 Canelo?

Posted July 14, 2014 10:56 am 


kato3388

There is no scientific formula for judging fights. What do we think, that these people are the epitome of professionalism? What do we think they aren’t persuaded by their own subconscious inklings? Judges are people and falter the same as anyone of us. The 4 main criteria for judging a fight is clean punching, effective aggressiveness, ring generalship and defense.

Both fighters landed punches. Lara’s Landed 55 clean jabs to Canelos 9. However, Canelo Landed 88 power-shots to Lara’s 52. I am no judge but, there is no way that I can score a jab the same as I would a power-punch. Lara threw more punches but those punches were ineffective jabs. Canelo walked right through them.

Effective aggressiveness, Lara was not the aggressor at all. Just based on that alone, he didn’t win on that Criteria. Canelo, was the aggressor and made Lara pay whenever he connected to the body. And despite what Lara said, those body shots were effective. If those body shots weren’t effective, it wouldn’t have slowed him down… but it did.

Ring generalship, not even the Showtime guys could tell you exactly what ring generalship means. Paulie made the best case for it, but he’s the same type of boxer as Lara, so it’s easier for him to sympathize with that type of style. Runnin. Eithercase, why does ring generlship automatically favor the retreating fighter? It shouldn’t. What I saw was Canelo pressing the fight, taking the fight to Lara. but Lara would, run or use lateral movement to escape. He spent more time escaping and retreating than he did throwing punches. To me, Canelo was the ring general.

Defense, has to go to Lara. The point of boxing is to hit and not be hit. In that area, Lara is a true master of not getting hit. But what he failed to do was to couple that amazing defense with power-shots. If he threw more power shots he’d have probably won the fight. But he didn’t. In order to deliver a power shot, that’d mean Lara would have to plant his feet, and if he did that, then Canelo would be able to get to him.

Lara lost. PERIOD. He didn’t do enough and he ran all night.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:52 am 


Octavius Jomar Chatman

Canelo is the house fighter…You have to beat him beyond a shadow of a doubt and based on what I’m reading Lara didn’t do that…I had to work and didn’t get a chance to see the fight; hoping to tape and catch the replay…..

Posted July 14, 2014 10:47 am 


Ray ‘The Man’ Flores

Round 7 Red lands a devastating upper cut which ripped open Lara eyebrow causing blood, also Lara bleeding in mouth. Lara runs to avoid Red Power and avoid KO. Red wins, plain and simple.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:37 am 


varnish

Good summary – I didn’t see the fight but this gave me a sense of it.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:36 am 


Jim Rich

Ring generalship, and overall impression on the judges count. This isn’t scored on whoever lands the most jabs or punches win. Overall impression of who is controling the fight can win you over and the judges decision is subjective as well. Running and potshotting has never been a fan favorite style, its a good way to lose. Lara took the path of least resistance, pot shot, run duck and cover. Lara needs step up his game but he doesn’t have that star factor. Lara B level fighter, always has been and prob always will be.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:35 am 


Meja

That fact that Hopkins is lurking are in the post fight interview, just smells corruption.

For me personally, i feel that Lara edged the fight, by maybe 2 rounds, but seeing all the comments online, the opinion of who won the fight is really 50/50

I do think the other judge won scored the fight by a wide amount to Canelo should be pulled up because it really looks like a pay off and that isn’t good for the sport and if it continues to happen in Canelo’s fights he will have to change his name to Conelo.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:32 am 


kato3388

The only ones who think Canelo lost are the same armchair haters who didn’t like Canelo to begin with. The had their mind made up before the fight and watched it with Lara-colored glasses. So it didn’t matter what Canelo did or Lara didn’t do, in their minds, Lara won no matter what.

Yes, yes, yes.. this is boxing.. and the point is to hit and not be hit… Yes, I agree… But this is boxing and it’s a fight. You have to throw meaningful punches. Jabs can be meaningful, but if that’s your primary weapon, you’re gonna be outgunned all night, unless your name is Wladimir Klitschko.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:30 am 


Dino

Come on man, you know as well as I do, when you fight the favorite fighter, do you think your gonna get the nod if it’s close? do you leave it in the judges hands? that was a stupid moves on Lara’s part. Lara should have taken it to Canelo rounds 10-12, CHAPIONSHIP ROUNDS. No brainer.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:30 am 


kato3388

Lara outlanded Canelo on jabs. Seriously people… you’re going to score a jab the same as you would a power punch?
Canelo outlanded Lara in Power punches, by a significant margin at that….

And, why should ring generalship automatically favor the runner or retreating fighter? It shouldn’t. What I saw was Canelo pressuring the fight and in my mind he controlled the fight. Lara was backing up all night, and a few times Canelo was able to keep him on the ropes.
Yes, Lara made Canelo miss, but he didn’t follow up with anything other than a jab, and when he did, it wasn’t effective.
I re-watched the fight again and Lara LOST.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:26 am 


Joker

RE: Love-the-Sport

Look honestly I don’t really care who won, I don’t have too strong an opinion either way over who won. Both didnt do enough to clearly win, thats the problem. But if someone’s going to say Canelo won because he ‘pressured’ Lara thats a bunch of bs.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:23 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Once again: Canelo only landed 23% of his total punches against Lara, but in addition Canelo only landed 22% of his total punches against Mayweather. Looking at these two stats plus the near comical punches Canelo threw but missed and missed by a lot in these two fights (in both fights Canelo punched and not only missed his opponent but instead struck a ring rope) I am now wondering if Canelo has very poor eyesight – and I am not joking. Something is very wrong.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:19 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

Now let’s look at the compubox stats: Lara threw more punches which landed in seven rounds, Alvarez landed more punches in three rounds, in two rounds the two fighters landed the same number of punches. For total punches thrown, Lara land 10 more punches than did Alvarez as well as having a higher percentage of punches thrown hit Alvarez (107 punches at 28% for Lara; 97 punches at 23% for Alvarez). Jabs Lara 55 landed and Alvarez 9. Power punches landed 52 Lara to 88 for Alvarez.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:42 am 


Bob Oaklnd

I didn’t even see that fight. I know one thing however, you guys don’t know a goddamn thing about boxing.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:39 am 


JoeKidd

Boring fight. Lara won, or draw. Canelo was hitting back and arms all night. Lara does exactly what Mayweather does but Mayweather is the genius and Lara is the track star? They are both the same. Pot-shotting runners. Canelo thinks he’s a superstar but he looked like an idiot…again!

Posted July 14, 2014 8:35 am 


CurlyQ.Howard

“Hecdog

Gentlemen, the legendary Manny Pacquiao would have wiped the floor with Canelo and Lara, let’s get that straight first. Now, last night’s fight was another home cooking awful decision if you know anything about boxing. Canelo looked like a caveman swinging his club around and hitting nothing. He was off balance, had no idea how to cut off the ring. Lara was going left and Canelo was going right. This was a masterful boxing exhibition that Lara put on. His ring generalship and clean effective punches were on point. Canelo’s desperate wild flurries did nothing. He landed a few body punches, but not nearly enough to win the round. I’ve watched the replay, and once again had Lara winning 8 rounds to 4. I picked Canelo to win, but he was schooled last night and should have admitted that at the post fight press conference. If you’re a true boxing fan and score the fight without any bias, Lara wins easily. I like Canelo, he has a lot of talent and is going to be a great one, but he was schooled last night. I actually felt sorry for him as he was getting frustrated, bruised, and he literally almost broke his ankle trying to find Lara. It’s all the same in boxing. The big promoter (Oscar) and GBP, Las Vegas and those same good o’l Boy judges played just right. The 111-117 score card must have been filled out a month ago. That judge should be thrown out of the country and made to count marbles forever. Lara did an excellent job and was in control of the entire fight. His punches were clear and crisp. His defense was outstanding. He handled himself like a true intelligent. He had no chance with the home town kid. Had that fight been anywhere else but Las Vegas, guess what? Lara wins by a land slide. The numbers even favor Lara. Boxing should be embarrassed for last night’s awful decision.” This from another thread says it all.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:30 am 


He glossed me!

Lara won but that fight was horrible most of us thought we’d see the fight of the year…psych!

Posted July 14, 2014 8:27 am 


te tumbo

what one can say is that Lara definitely Lost. a total lack of fighting-spirit on Lara’s part. he failed to satisfy the basic requirement of a prize-fight, which is be prepared and willing to Fight. hopefully Lara learned that he can’t con or sneak his way into PPV prominence. he needs to earn it. he needs to Fight for it.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:06 am 


Love-the-Sport

Papo and Joker … you are both loco and joking.

Fight was close … it could have gone either way.

To say that Lara definitively won or that Alvarez definitively won is just silly.

It was a good close tough fight. I believe Alvarez won because you score rounds. And after a good start, Lara was virtually inactive in the middle rounds, then Alvarez was a little tired and lost the last 3 rounds. If you add up the rounds, I gave a close decision to Alvarez. But it could have gone either way.

I think the tragedy for you guys whining about the decision is that Lara could have won. Lara should have gone to the body of Alvarez. If Lara goes to the body and Alvarez gets gassed we could have seen something special. But the truth is that Lara did not stay in the pocket long enough to do that. He touched Alvarez and then moved — occasionally landing a good hard 1-2. So, I don’t think Lara did enough. But it was close.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:25 am 


Joker

Yeah its pretty hilarious that some people want to score the fight in Canelos favour cause he was “pressuring” Lara. HAH Canelo wasnt pressuring anything Lara was doing exactly what he wanted from round1-12! Canelo could only land a bodyshot here and there, Lara significantly outlanded him in clean headshots.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:18 am 


RAYGORDON REID

canelo

Posted July 14, 2014 7:00 am 


Papo

What I don’t understand is all the excuses as to why the decision went to Canelo. It’s boxing; the fighter that lands the most should win the fight. Just because one felt Lara ran too much is beside the point. He out landed Canelo in at least seven of the twelve rounds and should have been declared the winner.

I understand Lara’s style is boring to many boxing fans and Canelo is Oscar’s cash cow, but fixed fights doesn’t do boxing any good. It’s getting to the point where some fighters can only win if they win every round or KO their opponents.

Posted July 14, 2014 6:53 am 


Joker

Canelo is too goddamn slow. Only fighters he can beat is one that stands infront of him like a heavybag. If he steps up in weight the speed will not be as big a problem. Unfortunately for him he will also be fighting guys his own size, which may be a rude awakening for him LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 6:13 am 


Boxtradamus

Canelo WON just as I predicted! !!!!!! !
I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born! !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 3:29 am 



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