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TARK

Squared Circle says.., “Canelo cut Lara’s eye and busted it up; smashed him to the liver and ribs.”

An effective liver shot is what GGG did to Macklin… and what Kovalev did to Agnew… Even what Khan did to Maidana… Canelo never landed an effective liver shot in the entire fight.

He never even slowed Lara down, and Lara won the last 3 rounds, so the body attack wasn’t that effective.. He managed to cut Lara’s eye, and I’ll give Canelo the 7th round for doing that — but he didn’t bust the eye up at all.. He hardly landed on it again despite targeting it.

Lara’s corner got the bleeding under control by the final rounds, and it wasn’t swollen to close to being closed.

Canelo’s face and eye were more beaten up and swollen — if you’re truthful.

Posted July 20, 2014 8:53 pm 


Prizefighter

I know the odd makers wanted a decision lost for Canelo. Heavy money on Lara winning, but I guess they were wrong.

Posted July 19, 2014 11:36 pm 


Prizefighter

Lara lost, I’m sorry that breaks your heart!

Posted July 19, 2014 11:34 pm 


TARK

STFU imposter… Lara won that fight by 6 rounds.

Posted July 19, 2014 7:25 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzzz

Well based on another pretty poor showing by Canelo GoldenFraude feels the only safe fight for Canelo is against 140lb Old shot Joshua Clottey.. LOL.. 140lb Josesito Lopez was already booked…

Posted July 18, 2014 4:08 pm 


De Lima I

Herron is gone?

Posted July 18, 2014 3:41 pm 


D

boxstradumbass, “Learn how to keep UP with current events. I changed MY pick and took Lomachenko because he had more SKILLS”

after the fight started and loma starting beating the crap out of russell you changed your pick.

try to get your money back from a bookie at that point. of course you don’t bet, because you know you’re horrible at picking winners

Posted July 18, 2014 1:37 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. Its Truthadamus……. And IF you’re tired of the TRUTH that I’m telling then go read a comic book.

Posted July 17, 2014 8:52 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“Herron got stopped in SISSYFIED fashion ”

OH SHUT UP, Trolladamus.

Posted July 17, 2014 6:50 pm 


te tumbo

Or is it MeXico like my masters changed it to?

Posted July 17, 2014 5:31 pm 


te tumbo

Viva MeJico!!!

Posted July 17, 2014 5:31 pm 


te tumbo

orale

Posted July 17, 2014 5:30 pm 


te tumbo

CANELOWINS, again and again.

Posted July 17, 2014 4:45 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF anyone ever needs to SEE how you verbally SPAR guys into submission just save this thread. Its called forcing the opposition to tap OUT…….I am the GREATEST Internet and Radio Debator ever born!!!!!!!

Posted July 17, 2014 4:40 pm 


Canelowins

te tumbo
“Remember when Canelo hit Lara with a hard shot in early rounds and EL got buckled and stumbled???” YES and i thought it could’ve been scored a KD. Lara’s loss of balance was a result of Canelo’s shot combined with his own impulse to run for his professional life.
*************
FINALLY someone who makes sense. Thanks Tumbo.

Posted July 17, 2014 4:38 pm 


DaTruth ass Hurtzzz

I need a hug after my boy JuanMa lost. and then to top it off Lara lost to the best mexican fighter Canelo!

Posted July 17, 2014 4:35 pm 


te tumbo

(lol) like rattling a monkey’s cage . . . “Cannn-Tahhh y no Llores” . . . UnFnFadeable.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:19 pm 


te tumbo

De La Hoya did loose to Tito but I still hate TrinaDUD.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:00 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzzz

If it weren’t for the Mexican Fix Machine Canelo would’ve easily lost to Lara.. but with the WBC aka We Be Criminales, Drug Addicted Mexican Promoter DelaRunner, and Paid off mexican Judge Levi Martinez and his insane 117 – 111 score Lara the American Dream would’ve been t he Winner… but atleast there’s enough left of Cinnabum to feed to Miguel Cotto at 154lbs.. if that little Fat Red Head can still make 154lbs.. because if he can’t GGG at 160lbs will turn Cinnabum into CinnaBiatch..

Posted July 17, 2014 2:35 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzzz

At least Lara Busted up Canelo and cut his eye.. unlike DelaChicken who back peddled for the fist 6 Rounds and then flat out Ran for his life vs the Great Boriqua Tito Trinidad. running from your opponent all night long and not engaging, not being effective, not being able to back up your opponent like DelaRunner did is why he lost to a unanimous Decision to three very experienced Vegas Judges.. Canelo got busted up, Cut and wobbled vs Lara who turned him into the Classic south of the Border face first Bobble head like Angulo, MargaCheato, DumbDumb Rios, Marquez etc… just another in the long line of mexican Hype Jobs.. hopefully Canelo grows some Ballzzz and faces Cotto at 154lbs…

Posted July 17, 2014 2:32 pm 


te tumbo

PAPO, you should pause and take a deep breath. just look at what i did to Public Enema. the most bitterly obsessed and delusional multiposting troll in ESB history. not even you can deny the mixed feelings of pity and disgust for his multiposting antics. the b*tch is insane thanks to UnFnFadeable Me (applause). my posts have that effect on assorted imbeciles, basket-cases, and drooling boxing-ignorant fanboys. i sometimes wonder what the effect would be if it turned out that i actually wasn’t “Mexican”? it would send some of ESB’s stupidest straight into therapy. a creative writer can only imagine pulling off a ruse that effectively. so my one and only word of advice to the likes of you is to pause, take a deep breath, and avoid being swept away by the crazy train that a foaming-at-the-mouth Enema rode right off a cliff and into a sustained, spiraling, and whistling descent that i’ve had the joy of witnessing for the past several years now. of course, that is in no way an admission or denial of your suspicion. i prefer it that way.

Posted July 17, 2014 12:23 pm 


te tumbo

“That’s exactly what you and Te Tumbo said about Canelo’s chances over Lara before the fight, which makes me wonder whether you are double posting using two different aliases. You two sound exactly alike” (lol). few things more amusing than spinning another poster into seeing double. I neither deny or confirm the suspicion. i would rather continue watching Papo’s head spin and chucklingMAO.

Posted July 17, 2014 12:00 pm 


te tumbo

“Remember when Canelo hit Lara with a hard shot in early rounds and EL got buckled and stumbled???” YES and i thought it could’ve been scored a KD. Lara’s loss of balance was a result of Canelo’s shot combined with his own impulse to run for his professional life. it was a courteous gesture in Lara’s favor that it wasn’t scored a KD but if it was the videotape would’ve validated it as an accurate call.

Posted July 17, 2014 10:46 am 


Anonymous

square head you do realize that you are not one of the top dogs???

Posted July 17, 2014 4:41 am 


bwaaaaahahahahahahaha!!!!!

But you’re being overly sensitive about it like a menopausal woman. If you can’t hang with the big dogs, stay on the porch, TARK.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:19 am 


Boxtradamus

“why did they have to changerhe sport of boxing for runners like fraud to run the clock and round likits out boxtradamus?

boxing for most its life has been about fighting til there is a winner

exploiting time limits is weak as hell”-Floyd didn’t invent the rules. He just MASTERED them. IF you can’t beat a guy don’t blame the rules. Blame YOURSELF. He has to beat YOU under the same rules that YOU have to beat HIM under. Its not his fault that everyone else is easier to beat under the current rules than he is. When a guy lands 50% on average and only allows 20% to land incoming then he is going to WIN under ANY rules. the guy landing 20% will eventually be mentally KO’d. Missing 4 out of every 5 shots is Demoralizing.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:18 am 


Boxtradamus

“lara was going to stop canelo or beat him by clear decision, one of 8 different picks you made on canelo-alvarez”-SO MY Jester boggled YOUR mind 8 different ways eh??? I don’t know what to tell you DO about that. I guess you could take a LESS CONFUSION class. Because you got SUCKERED 8 times and will probably get suckered at least 8 more. I took Canelo by decision and I was CORRECT. I told Herron before the Fight and thats why he’s no longer HERE. Some guys stomach cannot handle Crow Mignon.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:10 am 


Boxtradamus

“facts such as boxster picks: russell was going to beat lomachenko by stoppage or clear decision. “-Learn how to keep UP with current events. I changed MY pick and took Lomachenko because he had more SKILLS. I was CORRECT yet again! !!!!

Posted July 17, 2014 3:05 am 


Boxtradamus

“your a total phuk head u deserve being banned”-Nope. I deserve MY name being put into GOLD letters. Because I am the GOLD standard when it comes to Fight Predictions. MY last prediction was SO on point that Herron skipped town. Never to be seen again. Iron Beach and Old Yank agree with HIM on that. E in Denver and terror tim agree with him TOO.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:03 am 


Boxtradamus

“now u wanna prematurely hype andrade and call him a p 4p top ten “-I have never SAID that Andrade is Top 10 P4P. But he could be SOME day SOON. You have to get you some more brains BEARS. MY Jesters are making a FOOL out of YOU.

Posted July 17, 2014 3:00 am 


Boxtradamus

“boxtradamus the greatest clairvoyant that ever lived his name is edgar cayce not boxtradamus sh!t for brains”-Personal attacks have not been successful vs the TRUTH SO why DO you keep trying it? ?? You have similar IQ to Margarito. You make NO adjustments. Thats why you’re no match. Go get you some Boxing FACTS.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:57 am 


Boxtradamus

“boxtradamus the greatest clairvoyant that ever lived his name is edgar cayce not boxtradamus sh!t for brains”-Personal attacks have not been successful vs. the TRUTH. SO why DO you keep trying it. You have similar IQ to Margarito. You make NO adjustments. Go get you some Boxing FACTS.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:54 am 


Boxtradamus

“simply dont read or respond to that phuk head all it does is cause more phuk headed boxtradamus posts to appear”-No. You simply don’t respond to avoid the inevitable SPANKING. The same reason that you don’t you don’t take the PIN out of the grenade and hold it. Its SUICIDE.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:51 am 


Boxtradamus

“That’s why he boasts so much–just to get responses.”-Nope. I just celebrate MY Victories. I celebrate each and every Victory and peoples responses are no factor in that.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:48 am 


Boxtradamus

“Actually Bears, everyone should do this.”-YES. I already stated this. WHY would anyone respond to FACTS anyway????? Just nod your head and keep going DUMMY.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:45 am 


Boxtradamus

“If you had a brain you’d be dangerous,”-Nope. I have the TRUTH and the FACTS and I am dangerous with them. Just added Herron’s name to the RETIREMENT list. Yours could be NEXT. OH I forgot you’re already on your THIRD life. ESB already banned your name TWO times for ME SPANKING you. But for some reason unlike the others you keep coming back for MORE. You must LIKE getting SPANKED.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:42 am 


B E A R S

why did they have to changerhe sport of boxing for runners like fraud to run the clock and round likits out boxtradamus?

boxing for most its life has been about fighting til there is a winner

exploiting time limits is weak as hell

Posted July 17, 2014 2:37 am 


Boxtradamus

“Herron spanked Boxtradumbass and Ronnie Shields backed Herron up.”-Nope. Herron got stopped in SISSYFIED fashion by Boxtra on his own show and then Shields jumped INTO the sinking ship like a DUMMY…..Gamboa’s Boxing IQ was LOW and anyone trying to argue otherwise had better go to Johnny Cochran SCHOOL. SO that they can learn how to WIN a LOSING argument.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:36 am 


D

boxsterdermus, “that way you’ll know more FACTS about boxing.”

facts such as boxster picks: russell was going to beat lomachenko by stoppage or clear decision. martinez was going to beat cotto. provodnikov was going to beat algieri. lara was going to stop canelo or beat him by clear decision, one of 8 different picks you made on canelo-alvarez

Posted July 17, 2014 2:35 am 


B E A R S

this website is sharing views and opinions and thats what your phuk head has not facts and truth.

now u wanna prematurely hype andrade and call him a p 4p top ten then when he gets lit up you be on here some cheese d!ck post saying “andrade didnt listen to me”

your a total phuk head u deserve being banned

Posted July 17, 2014 2:31 am 


Boxtradamus

“Herron was a good contributor and Boxtradumbass brags that he drove him away? “-YES. Anyone WHO challenges ME I drive them away with SPANKINGS whether they’re a quality contributer or not…..unless they’re like Hissybibdee. Those types of SISSIES actually LIKE receiving SPANKINGS. They’re extra SISSYFIED. The others RUN away with their tails between their legs.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:30 am 


te tumbo

116-112 All-Day-Long EVERY day of the year. the more i see and recall Lara’s performance, the more my disdain for him grows, and now he’s demanding “investigations”?!? this wasn’t DLH v. Trinidud when DLH outlanded Trinidud by 100+ punches and that was before the 10th round(?!). the only investigation that should be considered is of Lara. the more he protests the more incredulous i become that he could sincerely believe that his non-fight plan was the winning one(?) when it featured him declining to actually engage or fight.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:28 am 


Boxtradamus

“Listen to him with Herron, Boxtradumbass is a mentally handicapped black man.”-Well then handicapped black men must state a lot of FACTS. Herron agreed with the mentally handicapped black man on HIS show. You need to go learn how to be a mentally handicapped black man TOO. That way you’ll know more FACTS about Boxing.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:25 am 


Boxtradamus

“it’s how he come across with his childish comments.”-But they’re TRUTH stuffed and FACT filled comments. Thats why you cannot refute them. IF you can’t refute MY comments there’s nothing to be SAID anyway. Just silently nod your head in agreement. As a matter of FACT none of MY comments need responding to. Everyone should be nodding their head and keep going. Rebuttaling FACTS get you SPANKED.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:22 am 


B E A R S

lolololo!!! when i was typing my post he made a comment about taking a class!! just as i predicted!!

I AM THE GREATEST IDENTIFIER OF DOUCHE BAGS THAT EVER LIVED!!!

and boxtradamus the greatest clairvoyant that ever lived his name is edgar cayce not boxtradamus sh!t for brains

Posted July 17, 2014 2:21 am 


B E A R S

boxtra responds to everything with weak ass chesse dik retorts its either a) your being fooled b) take a class c) its the truth or d) repeating he thinks he is the best

u simply dont read or respond to that phuk head all it does is cause more phuk headed boxtradamus posts to appear

Posted July 17, 2014 2:18 am 


Boxtradamus

“I don’t know who he is or how old, but judging by some of his comments, he’s either around 15 years of age or mentally challenge”-Well go take you some JUDGING courses. I’m not 15 and I cannot be mentally challenged. Because there is no competition. Go take you a SMARTS class SO that YOU can mentally challenge ME. .

Posted July 17, 2014 2:17 am 


te tumbo

“You were saying that Lara was going to get robbed before the fight, and you saw exactly what you wanted to see” Yep. this was another bitter pill for Tark to swallow (lol). very few regular posters on ESB (i can only think of one) have thoroughly experienced the sport like Tark. i’ve sat in on some of his page 2 debates and between the spin and bias, it’s the stuff that few know or have experienced. his institutional knowledge must be respected, but when it comes to analysis of talent and related matchups? Lara had NO chance of winning a fight v. Canelo and only a slim chance of successfully backpedaling v. Canelo. as we discovered, slim was out of town, but ThaT was the only way to ever frame this matchup. everything else was inaccurate to say the least.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:15 am 


B E A R S

sounds like tark scored it about like i scored maidana vs fraud and provo vs bradley

im glad canelo won im tired of runners getting nods

Posted July 17, 2014 2:14 am 


Boxtradamus

“his use of different aliases trying to make himself looks good is annoyinhg.”-Nope. But MY Jesters SURE do make YOU look DUMB. I THANK them and YOU for giving ME free entertainment.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:13 am 


Boxtradamus

“Papo

I must admit that just as others here, I too skip over Boxtra’s comments. His comments are basically the same every time”-OH you admit that YOU have a fear of being SPANKED TOO eh???? Yes the TRUTH remains the same. Thats why I sound the same every time. I wish that skipping over the TRUTH was effective but its not. IF it WAS I’d stick MY Bills on a jump rope and skip over them TOO. SO skip along all you want. Skipping over something is not a factor. The FACTS remain whether you skip over them or not.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:11 am 


Boxtradamus

“im skippin his posts and not responding to his garbage”-THATS the ticket!!!! The only way to avoid ME personally SPANKING you is to avoid responding to the FACTS that I’m stating. IF you continue to respond then I will knock you out of existance HERE like I DID to many others. Call the TRUTH garbage all you want. You have been and always WILL be SPANKED by it when you deal with ME. SO RETIRE from speaking to ME until you learn more about Boxing.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:03 am 


te tumbo

“There is no way I lost to Canelo”? face it. Lara lost in the WORST way imaginable for a showdown PPV title-fight. he declined to fight(?!?!). i pity the fight-fan who may have had the unenviable task of watching this fight with a potential convert. Lara embarrassed the sport and forfeit the right to call himself a fighter. he remains a talented amateur scheming for another payday. if he insists on trying his chances v. PROS, he can backtrack and FInally take care of unfinished v. Molina or even Vanes. that may be a fighter he can successfully run away from. Molina’s just a talking point. no f’n way Lara grows the balls to revisit that matchup. he’d lose. Again.

Posted July 17, 2014 2:00 am 


Boxtradamus

“yeah boxtradamus is a turd that needs flushed”-Flushing the TRUTH is FUTILE. The TRUTH remains whether you flush it or not. Or else I would flush MY BILLS.

Posted July 17, 2014 1:58 am 


Boxtradamus

“you make up aliases to compliment yourself, which everyone knows are more versions of boxster, and signs of your mental illness.”-Nope. MY personal Jester knows that YOUR mind is SO feeble that all he has to DO is simply post under MY name and your Pea Powered brain gets boggled. And I always get a GOOD laugh out of it. LMMFAO!

Posted July 17, 2014 1:55 am 


Boxtradamus

“they habitually skip past your posts like trying to make their way past a panhandler”-Nope. They try to ignore the TRUTH as IF that erases it. GOOD try but NO Cigar.

Posted July 17, 2014 1:51 am 


Boxtradamus

“boxsterdermus, you stink up this site so bad that posters leave.”-Nope. I tell the TRUTH and state the FACTS SO much that the posters that like to LIE and GUESS alot have no choice but to get SPANKED or retreat. Most SISSIES choose the latter.

Posted July 17, 2014 1:50 am 


obbieman

Tell Canelo and Cotto to get it over and done with. This fight is inevitable and would generate mega bucks. I can’t figure out who will win.

Posted July 17, 2014 12:57 am 


hibdeebibdee

“yeah boxtradamus is a turd that needs flushed. im skippin his posts and not responding to his garbage.”

Actually Bears, everyone should do this. Boxtra$$wipe is nothing more than an internet troll. That’s why he boasts so much–just to get responses.

But I love calling him “Boxtra$$wipe.” So keep on posting Boxtra$$wipe.

Posted July 17, 2014 12:16 am 


hibdeebibdee

“I already know what Mark said and why Herron is no longer on ESB.”-That’s what they came UP with for the cover up.”

No you don’t, and no it isn’t. ESB didn’t yank Herrons article as a cover-up.

If you had a brain you’d be dangerous, Boxtra$$wipe. Fortunately nobody has anything to worry about.

Posted July 17, 2014 12:14 am 


Papo

I must admit that just as others here, I too skip over Boxtra’s comments. His comments are basically the same every time and his use of different aliases trying to make himself looks good is annoyinhg. I don’t know who he is or how old, but judging by some of his comments, he’s either around 15 years of age or mentally challenge. I’m not saying this as an insult…it’s how he come across with his childish comments.

Posted July 16, 2014 9:26 pm 


Canelowins

Mexican corruption? Um, they fought in the US. How is that remotely even possible? Lara just wasnt impressive. Keep you theories close to reality.

Posted July 16, 2014 7:26 pm 


B E A R S

yeah boxtradamus is a turd that needs flushed. im skippin his posts and not responding to his garbage. he reposts the same thing or something similar over and over fishing for someone to give him attention or notice him. just dont do it, do what i do and east side will not be very fullfilling for dudes like that

Posted July 16, 2014 7:15 pm 


Jorgegon0805

To win a boxing match you have to fight. If Lara love to run he is in the wrong business am pretty sure he do better doing just that (running)..
There was a comment about Oscar vs Tito that he was running for 4 rounds I do think he run the last round even without throwing a punch one of the judges give him the round Oscar give Tito a boxing lesson years later Oscar try to get a rematch which Tito never accepted….. He did the same thing that Cotto just did …. Offer him 10 millions to fight Canelo and what did Cotto did Cotto do went to fight Maravilla don’t care about legacy when some boxers are figthing boxers down the hill…… One of them Floyd always get the advantagesmaller fighters go up in weight big ones go down and Floyd always in the comfort zone without taking any risk ………..

Posted July 16, 2014 5:55 pm 


to boxsterdermus

boxsterdermus, you stink up this site so bad that posters leave. they habitually skip past your posts like trying to make their way past a panhandler. you make up aliases to compliment yourself, which everyone knows are more versions of boxster, and signs of your mental illness.

Posted July 16, 2014 3:43 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Email Mark and ask him yourself. I already know what Mark said and why Herron is no longer on ESB.”-That’s what they came UP with for the cover up. Just as Oscar De la Hoya doesn’t say exactly what happened when Shaefer got the boot……AS SOON as I was CORRECT about Canelo vs. Lara Herron disappeared just as Old Yank disappeared right after I was CORRECT about Hopkins vs Pavlik and just as Iron Beach disappeared right after I was CORRECT about Pacquiao vs Marquez…..THINK that’s a COINCIDENCE????? Well go take you a THINKING class.

Posted July 16, 2014 2:14 pm 


Joey Herron got SPANKED

Joe got completely undressed on air by Boxtra. He got SPANKED SO bad that he even agreed with Boxtra’s points. TRUTH telling and FACT stating is GREATER than FAST talking. Boxtra demonstrated that vs. Herron and scored the SISSYFIED stoppage because of it. WOW!!

Posted July 16, 2014 2:09 pm 


Fight Aficionado

BoxAnus you got lit up by Heron on the air and smoked like a Blunt. Of course you try and revise that fact now that Herron is gone. Deluded loser.

Posted July 16, 2014 1:48 pm 


Proud African

Lara won the fight, but in any close fight the decision can go either way, depending on the subjectivity of the judges.

Posted July 16, 2014 1:35 pm 


Mexican Corruption Destroying USA Boxing

He was never dropped, He clearly trip over the Plodding Canelo who put his foot out.. Lara Busted Up Canelos face pretty badly and also cut Canelo before Canelo cut Lara.. I’ve never seen Canelos face so puffy and swollen..

Posted July 16, 2014 1:18 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“He was dropped in the corner which was called a slip’ ”

No he wasn’t. Watch the fight again.

Posted July 16, 2014 12:52 pm 


SLIM

Mexican corruption my ass…Lara ran the whole dam fight. He was dropped in the corner which was called a slip’ His eye was busted up with a left “hook” and he put his bicycle up and pulled out his motorcycle. How is that Mexican corruption? The only corruption was we paid to watch that stinker of a fight of Lara being chased around the ring…gimme break.

Posted July 16, 2014 12:43 pm 


Mexican Corruption Destroying USA Boxing

Mexican Corruption is Destroying USA Boxing.. When you have A Corrupt Mexican Boxing Sanchioning body, A Corrupt Drug Addicted Mexican Boxing Promoter, A corrupt Mexican Judge giving the Bogus Win after Bogus wins to their Favorite Mexican Boxers you know it’s time for the USA to take a second look at our beloved Sport.. The Days of Boxing Fans respecting and appreciating the Sweet Science, the Sport where Hit and avoid getting hit ruled is replaced by who is the toughest and can take the most punches to the Face is when USA Boxing becomes just a Tijuana Cantina Tough man Contest…

Posted July 16, 2014 12:14 pm 


Jose Velazwuez

The day Lara leaves his bicycle behind, he maybe a contender and have acceptance. I want to see a good fight and may the best man win.

Who would pay to see Lara run?

Posted July 16, 2014 11:38 am 


hibdeebibdee

“SO he decided to ban HIMSELF ahead of time rather than get SPANKED and then banned. After he RAN Mark simply locked the door behind him ”

That’s bullsh*t Boxtra$$wipe. Email Mark and ask him yourself. I already know what Mark said and why Herron is no longer on ESB.

Posted July 16, 2014 10:11 am 


shaq

Dela Hoya likes to pick Carnello”s opponents like he picks his judges!!! It’s already pre-determined and always to his advantage and if don’t knock Carnello out your not gonna win…THE VIEWING PUBLIC IS ON TO GOLDEN BOY AND THEIR MAIN ORCHESTRATOR OSCAR DELA HOYA!!!

Posted July 16, 2014 10:08 am 


Papo

B E A R S said, “cotto is tailor made for canelo. cotto would get dominated and brutalized. he will be in the pocket and he wont be able to escape canelos power.”

That’s exactly what you and Te Tumbo said about Canelo’s chances over Lara before the fight, which makes me wonder whether you are double posting using two different aliases. You two sound exactly alike.

Posted July 16, 2014 8:37 am 


SLIM

Lara is all butthurt cause he didn’t get the decision…well maybe he should of thought about that with 15K screaming Mexican fans, all awhile he “stunk up” the place running around the ring like a chicken getting ready to get his head cut off. Have a nice day.

Posted July 16, 2014 5:41 am 


Anonymous

‘boxtra prides himself on hastling old yank and credits himself with ild yank leaving. now he has done the same with herron though it had nothing to do with that utter schmuck.’

good job boxtra!!!!

by-the-way russian dream team tard and ugly ecaterin is successfully destroyed!!!! ugly kitty is gone!!!! bwahahaha!!! theyre phukin ali haters!!!!!

Posted July 16, 2014 3:01 am 


B E A R S

cotto is tailor made for canelo. cotto would get dominated and brutalized. he will be in the pocket and he wont be able to escape canelos power.

its too early for 3g. that will be a war and both will get blasted

i wanna see canelo get quillen then cotto then maybe 3g

Posted July 16, 2014 2:58 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. Joe was dealing with a guy named Mark from Eastside and Mark told Herron to not take anymore SPANKINGS on radio or he would ban him for being an embarrassment to ESB for letting a poster embarrass an ESB writer. Joe knew that I was CORRECT yet again SO the verbal SPANKING was coming… SO he decided to ban HIMSELF ahead of time rather than get SPANKED and then banned. After he RAN Mark simply locked the door behind him while I remain as the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born. And IF he ever comes back I will SPANK him as IF it were right after the Fight.

Posted July 16, 2014 2:16 am 


hibdeebibdee

I’d just like Oscar de la Hoya to name the “10 fighters” that are in line in front of Erislandy Lara (that’s what DLH said at the post-fight press conference) before he can expect a rematch with Canelo.

Posted July 16, 2014 2:15 am 


hibdeebibdee

““joe herron and his show have left east side.” – What? I didn’t hear that. Did he confirm this?”

Yes, Fight Aficianado, Joseph told me himself today. But, he didn’t “leave.” He was cancelled by ESB for a number of reasons. That’s all I have to say about that.

Posted July 16, 2014 2:02 am 


TARK

Cotto’s jab would cause Canelo problems…

Just like it caused Floyd problems. Cotto’s got a nice one. Cotto couldn’t get his jab or hook on southpaw Trout for some reason — But Lara was able to find Trout pretty easily. One thing we know for sure is Cotto-Lara isn’t happening.

I would love to see a rematch between Lara and Canelo.. If Lara had won the fight I’m pretty sure we would see one.. Now I’m sure we won’t.

Posted July 16, 2014 12:53 am 


Cheezb

@TARK – “Golovkin should hang around to fight the winner of Cotto-Alavaez…if that fight is made..”

I’d agree but I have serious doubts as to whether Cotto-Alvarez would ever happen (and I agree that Canelo would take that one and probably do it brutally… bad style match-up for Cotto unless perhaps Cotto boxes like he did against Margarito).

Given Mayweather’s recent acquisition of a promotional license in New York, I think Mayweather and Cotto may already be looking at a rematch (this time for the MW title) and it may be a career-closer for both of them (though if Cotto wins, I guess they’ll do a rematch meaning Mayweather would see out his six-fight deal).
So that kinda leaves both Canelo and Golovkin out in the cold. Canelo already hinted that he wants to stay at junior middle, so that keeps him out of a Golovkin fight.

So for Golovkin, I think he may find himself drawn perhaps prematurely into the super middles just to get a meaningful fight… and yeah, Golovkin would likely ice Lara.

Posted July 15, 2014 11:32 pm 


TARK

Golovkin should hang around to fight the winner of Cotto-Alavaez…if that fight is made.. Problem is Canelo would win that one.

There’s a problem with that.. Alvarez and Golovkin have sparred a bit.. There’s no way Canelo is fighting GGG.

Lara landed more and better punches vs Canelo, but against GGG he’d get KO’d.

Posted July 15, 2014 10:58 pm 


Cheezb

@My two bob – “Canelo has slow feet so everyone looks like they’re running from him !!”

I don’t necessarily disagree with the slow feet comment (i.e. Canelo is naturally a counter-puncher, not a chaser), but Lara is the first guy I’d think to use the “runner” word on out of Canelo’s opponents (and frankly I very, very rarely accuse fighters of “running”).
Mayweather didn’t run from Canelo. He tended to make Canelo miss in the pocket and punish him for it… in fact, Mayweather was pushing Canelo back at times.
Trout fought defensively, but he wasn’t running. He was looking to stick and counter.

Lara wasn’t looking to counter. He was barely looking to even punch. He treated it like an amateur fight. He’d try to get a perceived lead in each round and then literally stay completely disengaged until the clock ran down (e.g. some amateurs build up a lead in overall punches and then just go negative and try to protect that lead for the rest of the fight).

Whether or not you rate Canelo’s body shots, I don’t see how anyone could rate Lara’s jabs as being more effective.
Lara was throwing jabs from the elbow (i.e. flicking the jab rather than planting it), so there was not even the slightest shred of power in them… it’s a non-committal jab that is more about just landing something/anything without having to give up defensive posture (i.e. since there’s no weight or momentum on the punch, he can’t be put off-balance and the fist is able to return to a guard very quickly).
It’s possibly the weakest punch in a fighter’s offensive arsenal… it’s at best a setup for a power shot, but Lara hardly ever used it as such.
So even if you think Canelo’s body shots were ineffective, they’re still offensively more damaging than a flick jab.

Posted July 15, 2014 10:49 pm 


Cheezb

Here’s an idea for Lara… if he thinks GBP were working against him, then why stay? Time to pack his bags and move to a new stable (and use corruption allegations as grounds to get out of his contract early if need be).

He was acting keen to fight Golovkin before (i.e. calling him out even though he knew due to network rivalries there was no chance of the fight being made), so why not leave the promoter he’s claiming is trying to rig fights against him and try to make that dangerous fight that he claims he wants? Golovkin is likely to be free after the Geale fight (if he wins), unless GGG chooses to move up to super-middle (which I actually think he should now that Martinez is out of the picture).

Posted July 15, 2014 10:34 pm 


B E A R S

big time decline in posters i have seen a lot of people leave. boxtra prides himself on hastling old yank and credits himself with ild yank leaving. now he has done the same with herron though it had nothing to do with that utter schmuck.

i agree the quality has deteriorated to almost a breaking point. some of us should look into writing articles and see if we get denied. i have had some good ideas.

what would be cool is an interview with herron on something. wonder if it would get posted

Posted July 15, 2014 9:58 pm 


Gus

Like Lara or not if he had won the promoters would have even forced to give him a big money fight. Since he lost he is in no position to be demanding. Lara has himself to blame for ” running ” away fom his chances.

Posted July 15, 2014 9:51 pm 


My two bob

I don’t no what I’m watching anymore I thought Lara won ! If the body punching was that great why couldn’t he even slow Lara down late and when Lara slipped in the cnr the crowd the crowd acting like Lara was koed wtf ! Canelo has slow feet so everyone looks like they’re running from him !!

Posted July 15, 2014 9:29 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“These are the reasons I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!” – Exhibit A on the decline in ESB posters.

Posted July 15, 2014 8:50 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Thanks B E A R S (this is what happened with joe herron). It’s a shame ESB was being so stubborn with Herron, who was among my favorite contributors. Sounds like it was ego-driven. A lot of quality contributors over the years have left, just like a lot of good posters left. Now the articles’ quality have declined and so has the level of posters. We used to have a lot of quality regulars who could carry on a meaningful coversation about boxing. As more of the regulars left they were replaced with a lot of douchebags. Eventually if this trend continues the normal people will go elsewhere. ESB should note this parallel between their contributors and posters.

Posted July 15, 2014 8:47 pm 


HittheTarget

Two predictions before I start: 1) amateur boxing will be gone in 10 years and 2) in 5 years there will not be one boxer who has the skills of Willy Pep, Pernell Whitaker, Ali, or Floyd Mayweather. Having read most of the comments on multiple web sites criticizing Lara because he “ran” and Canelo made the fight, I truly believe my predictions will realize. The reason Lara was voted a lost was because he didn’t follow up his promise to punch Canelo’s face in. Lara didn’t have the fortitude to fight the way he could and should. His running is not the problem, it was his lack of punching to convince the judges. Maybe Lara was scared. Canelo hasn’t learned to fight different styles and probably never will. With the fans we have today ( is it a wonder why MMA has such a rapid growth rate) boxing will end up with two guys who are not allowed to kick, knee, elbow, or jump on a downed opponent but a sport that requires two guys/girls to stand in one spot and punch each other. Oh, that’s like bringing in fightings from MMA but only allow them to use their hands for “striking”.

Posted July 15, 2014 8:13 pm 


Patrick

I think both fighters fought well. Lara did the stick-and-move well and Alvarez did some good body work. Lara realized it would have been a bad idea to trade with Alvarez, so he didn’t. And Alvarez realized he had to press the action and land to the body and he did. That said, Lara should have known going into the fight he had to make a statement — to have some rounds (especially in the 10th, 11th and 12th) where he put together a series of hurtful combinations to sway the judges, to tip the scales in his favor. And he didn’t. He fought like he was still in the amateurs — just make your opponent miss and try to out-land him. Pro judges, sadly sometimes, don’t see it that way. They want, and reward aggression, and that’s the way the judging went on Saturday night.

Posted July 15, 2014 7:49 pm 


Stilltoosalty

I’m still saying the same thing. If u scored this fight for Canelo you don’t know sh!t about boxing, go watch MMA

Posted July 15, 2014 7:44 pm 


TARK

@ BEARS.., “TARK- did you score the canelo vs lara fight? I think they will rematch but it will be years from now”

I agree they won’t rematch. It would be extremely risky for Canelo.

I had Lara winning 117-111. He landed sharper, better, cleaner punches and eked out several close rounds on my card. Canelo got credit for picked off punches – but he definitely won rounds, and some of his left hooks and uppercuts landed solidly.

When the SD was announced I knew Canelo was going to get it. In a close fight, the big drawing card will usually get the nod… This is a fact of life Lara needs to understand.

If you’re a Cuban trying to beat a Mexican idol, and 90% of the fans are cheering for your opponent – you can’t afford to motor all over the ring trying to impress the judges with your speed and fancy footwork. You have to be smarter than that.

I’m not making excuses for Lara — I’m blasting him for being so positive that he was winning.. You have to live in the real world – not some fanciful world that’s perfect.

Ronnie Shields was blasé in thinking Lara was winning. Ronnie knows better. He should have been blasting Lara for the rounds being too close. He had to tell Lara to throw a lot more punches – and follow up good connects. There were times Lara landed a hard shot and took off like a rabbit.

Boxing and moving is a great strategy, as long as it’s mixed with a little fighting. If you’re not lifting the fans out of their chairs, stay home.

Posted July 15, 2014 7:41 pm 


Game of Bro’s

Lara lost…. Get over it

Posted July 15, 2014 7:12 pm 


B E A R S (this is what happened with joe herron)

fight afficionado- joe emailed me back and said thanks for reaching out.

apparently, joe dealt with a dude here at east side named mark who was putting his articles up from fightsaga dot com.

mark wanted joe to contribute more to east side but joe cant he is under contract with fight saga as he explained and mark got upset and pulled the plug on joes show here.

so my comcerns were actualized. joe really is not being allowed to do his thing here at east side. however, joe is where he has always been at fight saga.

u can go to google and type “the pugilist KORner” and joe herron and follow his stuff

i will be following his show, interviews, and his boxing 411 and all he is doing. im surprised whoever running east side is let that happen. joe was possibly east sides greatest contributor and joe brings fans views to fighters and coaches and up for discussion. the news is very disappointing and disheartening to me. i like joe and the other dude on his show. its actually the other dudes show. his name is jk and joe is like the host

Posted July 15, 2014 4:08 pm 


B E A R S

fight afficionado- i dont know if thats the case but his last two shows are not posted here. i emailed him and he has not emailed me back. i dont know if he disliked what i said about boxing officiating needing overhauled

he recapped canelo vs lara and had ronnie shields on there. he had lara winning. dan raphael of espn took a giant dump on larA and his running

Posted July 15, 2014 3:16 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“joe herron and his show have left east side.” – What? I didn’t hear that. Did he confirm this?

Posted July 15, 2014 3:05 pm 


Heedalgo

“SO IT WAS YOU HIDALGO!!! ”

Who are you?

Posted July 15, 2014 2:41 pm 


Heedalgo

“call you out esb was you! LMAO!! Why are you banned???

pNot certain, but Probably because he criticized pundits that publish articles on ESB. As for Herron, who knows?

Posted July 15, 2014 2:40 pm 


B E A R S

dang mama beRs your onthis thread too? your so good to me sweetheart! im blessed to have u in my life

Posted July 15, 2014 2:25 pm 


B E A R S

what was laras ring weight? 166?

too bad joe herron and his show have left east side.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:00 pm 


LOL

i hear Alvarez was only 171 for this catch weight classic.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:46 pm 


Hmmm

d-rock. Right on. A close fight either way not a 117-111 score.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:33 pm 


d-rock

For me, I give the guy attacking and landing the harder punches the benefit of the doubt. For a slick softer hitting fighter to win, they have to almost embarrass the harder hitting fighter. That’s just my opinion on scoring a fight. My flaw is already assuming who the harder hitting fighter is and assuming he is landing the harder more damaging punches.

Based on this, I feel it could have gone either way by a round. Far from a robbery. If Lara would have won, some would have cried robbery as well.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:22 pm 


DaTruth Hurts

Being a Mexican Judge also means he’s anti Rican Fighters like Danny Garcia..

Posted July 15, 2014 1:21 pm 


DaTruth Hurts

Papo – just go to BoxRec and look up the Judges Record.. he has alot of decisions tht went to Mexicans over other fighters..

Posted July 15, 2014 1:20 pm 


Cr@p !!!

>>EDIT

>>Edit / calling you out ESB.

Posted July 15, 2014 12:42 pm 


Papo

DaTruth Hurts stated, “the judge (referring to Martinez) had Theopane over Danny Garcia while the other two Judges had Danny winning…an obvious crazy score…

I didn’t know that, still, for the most part, the boxing commission won’t act, mainly for three main reasons; firstly, most boxing fans are split as far as who actually won the fight, so the commission doesn’t feel the pressure to act. Secondly, we’ve seemed worst decision made, as some have mentioned, and nothing has been done about them…so why act now? Thirdly, even if some type of corruption did take place, the commission would never disclose such corruption due to the possible political fallout

Posted July 15, 2014 12:09 pm 


moonshineman

You lost. Get over it!

Posted July 15, 2014 11:28 am 


LOL Hidalgo

>>Edit I calling you out esb

Posted July 15, 2014 11:09 am 


SO IT WAS YOU HIDALGO!!!

call you out esb was you! LMAO!! Why are you banned???

Posted July 15, 2014 10:33 am 


Javielito

I’m sick and tired of all these boxers hyping the crap out of a fight. I.e “I’m going to kock him out, I am going to take him to cuban boxing school” and then his trainer ronnie shields “when Lara hits you, it’s like getting hit by Mike Tyson” WHAT!? All that talk just to go out there and run like a beeyotch? Get your @ss in there and fight. Ring generalship? Whatch DLH against Trinidad, Mayweather Vs. Canelo, that is beautifuo ring generalship. I predicted Lara to win. I was hooing Lara would win as I think Canelo is overrated. I scored the fight for Lara 7 rounds to 5 and I still would have given it to Canelo har I been a judge, based on effective aggression and the fact that all that Lara was trying to do was survive. The more telling punches were Canelo’s by far. Even when Canelo almost knocked Lara down and the Showtime crew was trying to say that it was because their feet got tangled because of their styles. If you look at the close shot, Canelo’s left foot was in front f Lara’s rght foot when he rocked Lara back, so no. There was not a tangling of feet therem that was all Canelo’s power. Lara can go back to Cuba and learn how to box properly, but he says thereis no way against Canelo. Dude. There is no way you won!

Posted July 15, 2014 10:25 am 


DaTruth Hurts

Papo – the judge had Theopane over Danny Garcia while the other two Judges had Danny winning.. an obvious crazy score…

Posted July 15, 2014 10:19 am 


hibdeebibdee

“I TOLD Herron exactly what was going to happen, he knew the verbal SPANKiNG was coming SO he disappeared llike the many other SISSIES that I made disappear. Thats why you don’t verbally SPAR with ME. I will knock you out of existance on THIS site.”

Boxtra$$wipe, Herron predicted–long before you did–that Canelo would get an unjust win. In other words, he said Lara would beat Canelo but Canelo would be awarded the win.

Secondly, Herron is not avoiding you nor did he “disappear”–especially not because of you.

Last Sunday evening his last article which announced his show on Sunday night was published on ESB, then abruptly removed that same evening by ESB. And, since that time Herron has not been able to log on to ESB to post any comments and his publishing rights on ESB have been revoked. All of this was just done without any prior or post explanation to Joseph.

So stop gloating because you don’t know what you are talking about. Herron would never back down from the likes of you.

BTW Boxtra$$wipe, I’ve been verbally sparring with you for a couple of years now. I’m still here butthead.

Posted July 15, 2014 10:12 am 


ACCUBOX

Well said Boxtra.

Posted July 15, 2014 9:42 am 


Boxtradamus

I am the greatest invention on Earth since BACON! Nothing can top my mighty fight knowledge and ultimate picking powers. These are the reasons I am the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!

Posted July 15, 2014 9:41 am 


Hmmm

I’d still love judges to be accountable for their scores, corrupt or not.

In many sports refs & judge performances are regularly reviewed.

No reason why they shouldn’t do the same for boxing. Persistently bad judge scorecards should result in bans.

Posted July 15, 2014 9:20 am 


Papo

Judging by his record, I don’t believe boxing judge Levi Martinez is corrupt. He’s been a boxing judge for a long time and even had Lomachenko over Salido. My guess is that he felt Lara, due to his style, was not doing enough to deserve a win. Even though a 9 to 3 round win for Canelo is ridiculous, the boxing commission investigation will not show anything out of the ordinary. They’ll wait until the issue is out of boxing fans mind and then is just business as usual.

IMO Lara won, but the question is whether or not either fighter did enough to deserve the win. After all the hype and trash talk before the fight I expected more, especially from Lara. He made us believe that he was going to take it to Canelo and prove to the world he was just a superior fighter and frankly, he didn’t show it.

Canelo on the other hand prove what I’ve been saying all along, his record is overrated and his opponents have been carefully selected so he can look good. He too said Lara was going to pay for disrespecting him and the Mexican people before the fight, but at the end he only proved he’s slow as molasses. Look for Oscar to keep him away from fighters than can box as he had issues against Trout, Floyd and now against Lara. He’ll be matched against slower opponents, perhaps even a rematch with Angulo so he can look dominant again.

Posted July 15, 2014 8:45 am 


Bo Bo Olson

I always read what Tark has to say. Don’t agree 100% all the time, but no one does. I respect Tark as astute.

Posted July 15, 2014 8:40 am 


Sellout Judge was Mexican

The Sellout Judge, Levi Martinez who gave Canelo a 117 – 111 outrageous Victory is Mexican.. what else do you need to know??? LOL

Posted July 15, 2014 7:22 am 


A Fighting Man

Saul is an overrated red head . Lara is a road runner but we all knew that long before this fight was made .. Saul should have been able to cut off the ring and punish Lara to the body until his head came off , but no he has not the athletic prowess to accomplish this task …

Any of the title holders at 160 will end this ugly red headed step childs career , and send him from the ring in tears ..Oscar also .

Posted July 15, 2014 6:18 am 


Anonymous

Tark, keeps mentioning the Charlo brothers who were in attendance Saturday night. When are the Charlos getting their shots. I know one of them lost a shot when Carlos Molina was arrested a couple months back. If the Charlos got Lara ready with great sparring as Tark says, when will they be ready or get their own shots?

Posted July 15, 2014 6:15 am 


Anonymous

I had this fight at a draw and if I had to call a winner, it would be canelo due to his more effective power shots that landed.

But on a side note I just wanted to ask you guys why Canelo deserves to be a cash cow right now?

What has he achieved in his career and especially at this stage in his career that sets him right under PAC and Mayweather.

I am not a hater but I am someone who is actually confused to why canelo is already held at such high elite status.

Posted July 15, 2014 6:02 am 


Anonymous

I think the Cuban school of boxing should remain with the amateurs. Someone teach Lara how the pro’s do it

Posted July 15, 2014 5:17 am 


Anonymous

keyboard warrior schooled tarkie ! bwaaaaahahahahahhaha!!!!

Posted July 15, 2014 4:50 am 


Ray Ray

Canelo was 2-3 rnds 2 the good…..rematch though?

Posted July 15, 2014 4:44 am 


huckster

GGG-Canelo 2014! We love Christmas.

Posted July 15, 2014 4:26 am 


Hmmm

Boxtra it’s very hard to spar with someone when you’re trying to box and the fellow you’re in the ring with keeps changing the game and the rules.

Everyone knows you’re clueless.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:53 am 


Hmmm

All these casual fans like Kato, Fight Aficionado and Lion King have done a great job in describing how Mayweather fights in most bouts.

Their summary of the Lara Alvarez fight could be used for the Mayweather Maidana fight where Floydie hugged and ran all night.

Funny, there was a score of 117-111 in that fight too. 116-112 also. Both judges rewarding holding and true running.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:49 am 


BEARS

nobody that supported canelo is crying. canelo won

Posted July 15, 2014 3:44 am 


BEARS

im tired of the guy keep refering to boxing as a entertainment first

this is a fight “sport” which requires consistency and integrity at officiating and judging.

this is not wwf. i dont give a phuk if it is ppv or not. this is a sport

Posted July 15, 2014 3:43 am 


Hmmm

Lara won by 2 rounds imo. There was a bent 3rd judge turning the other way when Lara won a round imo.

Many casual fans crying because they dont appreciate Lara boxing to a game plan by sticking and moving.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:42 am 


BEARS

personally it think canelo smokes the remainder at 154.

canelo vs quillin!!! makes the most sense at this juncture

Posted July 15, 2014 3:37 am 


BEARS

give me an example of something legitimate? regarding boxing any weight

Posted July 15, 2014 3:35 am 


BEARS

ring magazines score poll has canelo winning 115-113

Posted July 15, 2014 3:34 am 


Anonymous

Bears

How crazy would that be if you actually had something legitimate to say.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:31 am 


BEARS

how crazy would that be if team canelo really went for 3g?!!!!

Posted July 15, 2014 3:26 am 


BEARS

canelo vs quillin

canelo vs quillin

canelo vs quillin

Posted July 15, 2014 3:23 am 


BEARS

Cant fight kirkland on ppv.

quillin ppv i think you could push a middleweight championship to prepare for cotto. there is noone to fight at 154 on ppv for canelo

Posted July 15, 2014 3:21 am 


BEARS

eh, i think this fight could’ve gone either way. this fight is actually 50/50 in the aftermath at best. this is not going down as extreme robbery. this is going down as a runner without enought offense loosing.

when i heard that last score i think EVERYONE thought lara was getting it. thats what i thought. it sounds like everyone thought that. simply because this was a close fight because lara made it so lack luster.

to me its just not the fight game. the fan that i am im glad a dump has finally been placed on the runner style. i am hoping after fraud runners get poor treatment and get forced to throw their fists.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:17 am 


Boxtradamus

Nope. I’m the WIN master. I leave the alts to guys who NEED them.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:13 am 


Boxtradamus

I TOLD Herron exactly what was going to happen, he knew the verbal SPANKiNG was coming SO he disappeared llike the many other SISSIES that I made disappear. Thats why you don’t verbally SPAR with ME. I will knock you out of existance on THIS site.

Posted July 15, 2014 3:12 am 


BEARS

yeah ur boxtra. boxtra is the ultimate alt master

Posted July 15, 2014 3:11 am 


BEARS

then who are you be-otch? why u using alts? have you no honor?

Posted July 15, 2014 3:11 am 


BEARS GET A LIFE !!!!!

Im not boxtra

Posted July 15, 2014 3:09 am 


BEARS

be-otch your full of sh!t

Posted July 15, 2014 3:08 am 


Boxtradamus

I don’t hide behind anything. Go take some RECOGNITION courses. I always DO and always WILL post as Boxtradamus……except when I SPANK the knuckleheads while JOKING. .

Posted July 15, 2014 3:07 am 


BEARS

wow joe herron is really huggin this robert guys nuts? wtf is up with that?

Posted July 15, 2014 3:05 am 


BEARS

boxtradamus must you hide behind your alts be-otch

Posted July 15, 2014 3:03 am 


BEARS

boxtradamus-must you hide under your alts you little biatch?

Posted July 15, 2014 3:03 am 


BEARS

herron did not do anything based on you, you phukin hand job

Posted July 15, 2014 2:55 am 


Addicted.to.boxing

I had Lara winning 5 rounds and three of them were the first three. He can blame himself not the judges he really could have won this fight had he brought his testicles to the ring . He did did not stick and run . Lara ran, ran, ran stuck and ran, and ran even more from the 4th round on. The guy left his balls on the podium the night he disrepected Canelo in order to get the fight. Then he feels he can run for 12 rounds and think human juges are not going to forget. Had he not gotton the fight this macho way maybe just maybe the body shots go unnoticed. However these were some of the more clear and visible body shots i have ever seen because they were placed on a runaway marathon chicken carnival target. The fight seemed to just run by so quick thanks to Lara. People were expecting an exciting fight not a game of tag. This does not even qualify as tag because you have to touch someone first in tag not run first like Lara did.

Canelo could have challenged Laras manhood for the lack of bravado he displayed. Instead he just emphasized on how Lara just ran and jabbed all night. As for the rematch “Bingo” learn to fight when you challenage a man’s manlihood.

No way I give Lara a rematch if I am Canelo. If I am Canelo I am thinking : you dispected me and had a chance to beat me and decided to run. ( must not of wanted the fight all that bad) .

I’ll take Mexican boxing over Pussy Cuban Boxing anyday. I am laughing how Lara referenced Cuban boxing to Military like. If that is the case their miltary is adept at taunting and running away from opponents like little grade school boys.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:54 am 


Boxtradamus

Herron abandoned the site because he knew I was going to verballly SPANK him. GOOD move on his part.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:49 am 


There was a Lara running going on

Lara should continue the amateurs

Posted July 15, 2014 2:48 am 


Anonymous

I had Lara winning 5 rounds and three of them were the first three. He can blame himself not the judges he really could have won this fight had he brought his testicles to the ring . He did did not stick and run . Lara ran, ran, ran stuck and ran, and ran even more from the 4th round on. The guy left his balls on the podium the night he disrepected Canelo in order to get the fight. Then he feels he can run for 12 rounds and think human juges are not going to forget. Had he not gotton the fight this macho way maybe just maybe the body shots go unnoticed. However these were some of the more clear and visible body shots i have ever seen because they were placed on a runaway marathon chicken carnival target. The fight seemed to just run by so quick thanks to Lara. People were expecting an exciting fight not a game of tag. This does not even qualify as tag because you have to touch someone first in tag not run first like Lara did.

Canelo could have challenged Laras manhood for the lack of bravado he displayed. Instead he just emphasized on how Lara just ran and jabbed all night. As for the rematch “Bingo” learn to fight when you challenage a man’s manlihood.

No way I give Lara a rematch if I am Canelo. If I am Canelo I am thinking : you disrespected me and had a chance to beat me and decided to run. ( must not of wanted the fight all that bad) .

I’ll take Mexican boxing over Pussy Cuban Boxing anyday. I am laughing how Lara referenced Cuban boxing to Military like. If that is the case their miltary is adept at taunting and running away from opponents like little grade school boys.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:46 am 


BEARS

I wonder if canelo wants a fraud mayweather rematch

Posted July 15, 2014 2:41 am 


BEARS

Canelo is already generating the cash after fraud and pac. he is already a cash cow at 23 years old. this kids got almost 2 more decades of fighting. good chance canelo takes over. it will be interesting to see if canelo keeps making that awesome matchups. i think if he does not his ppv’s will suffer.

if he goes quillin, cotto, 3g can you say BOO YA!!!

Posted July 15, 2014 2:41 am 


News Flash

Canelo is future PPV Cash Cow.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:36 am 


BEARS

i guess your not responding to me at this time TARK

Posted July 15, 2014 2:35 am 


BEARS

im glad ronnie shields told joe herron the impact a ref can have on a fight. i tried telling joe a week or two ago about consistency in officiating

Posted July 15, 2014 2:31 am 


BEARS

dan raphael ripped lara up and praised canelo for being the aggressor. I am just glad the fight was viewed like this. I have been sitting back seeing this for some time from some fighters and sometimes the runners been getting it. no way lara ran to a victory.

i see joe herron and shields disagreeing. im glad the judges and dan raphael have it for canelo. i wanna see the runners get little respect from the judging. its just not the boxing aethetic i like and i think its antithetical to the game

Posted July 15, 2014 2:30 am 


BEARS

me, i think this fight touches on the dichotomy of boxing styles/aesthetics. I’m telling you. some people think the running is totally antithetical to the box game and disadvantageous.

i am not a runner fan. i feel these guys give non fight attributes to fights.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:18 am 


Jack jones

I was watching Delahoyas face when they announced the scores. He knew Lara was getting ripped just like he got ripped against Trinidad. But Now its not ruing the sport. F#@ng faggot.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:17 am 


Corruption Is Alive and Well

Lara won. He lost at the hands of two judges from blinder to blindest. Oscar is B.S. and finally admits he lost to Trinidad as he cleverly but unsuccessfully tried to negate Lara’s boxing victory.

Posted July 15, 2014 2:08 am 


Jack jones

If Lara wants to keep that style of fighting and be sucessfull. He need to watch Floyd Mayweather vs Diego Corales fight. Then Roy jones Jr tapes and he’ll realize how he blew this fight

Posted July 15, 2014 2:05 am 


BEARS

TARK- did you score the canelo vs lara fight?

I think they will rematch but it will be years from now

Posted July 15, 2014 2:05 am 


Jack jones

There was asolutly nothing wrong with Lara perfomance except one punch ko power. If he would of dropped Canelo once there would be Less tall of running. Alí ran, Leonard ran, Jones Jr ran. And punk Delahoya ran from Trinidad and cried like a baby.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:56 am 


News Flash

LIke it or Not, Canelo is LEGIT. Blacks, Hispanics, WHites, Chicanos, Asians and Europeans must all RESPECT.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:54 am 


TARK

Squared Circle, you talked about how astute I am, how objective and fair I am, and gave me complements galore when I agreed with you on Kovalev, Golovkin, Lomachenko, Klitschko, and whomever.. Then when I disagree you do a 180 and make bullshlt comments.. You’re fair weather all the way. You can’t accept someone’s else’s opposing opinion without getting nasty. This fight had some close rounds and wasn’t that easy to score for a lot of people, including you. Dan Rafael said he felt sorry for people who had to score this fight.

If I make a wrong pick I don’t try to change the result or see things that didn’t happen. Don’t suggest that’s what I do. I watched Lara win with better boxing skills and quicker, more accurate punching — but I also said it would be hard for him to win a decision, and he had to completely dominate like he did vs Trout.. He didn’t do that. You even knock his fight against Trout, who said he was by far the best fighter he ever faced. Trout predicted Lara would win, but wouldn’t get the decision.

You asked me to watch Mayweather-Castillo 1 again. I did. I pointed out that Floyd threw MORE punches and landed fewer in the 5th round, according to the idiot punchstat guy. He said Floyd was way out-landed with power shots. But I pointed out specifically what clean effective power shots landed in that round and asked you to take another look at it and you said you would.

Although Floyd landed more jabs again, there was absolutely no way he was outpunched by clean effective power shots in the 5th – and there’s NO possible way 29 clean effective punches landed in that round by both combatants as the punch stat dude counted. The dude was out-to-lunch, and Harold Lederman was out with him.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:48 am 


Jack jones

Mares suck really bad! He’s not the chosen one.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:47 am 


Jack jones

Yet Sugar Ray Leonard can run from hearns and Haggler but he’s better than Mayweather. Humn?

Posted July 15, 2014 1:46 am 


BEARS

i think mares is gonna get smoked.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:45 am 


BEARS

joe is trying to make a case for lara. wow. too bad. yeah he is right it was a close fight but a lack luster in action fight because a guys soul focus is running in a FIGHT GAME is pathetic. rigo actually engaged donaire.

lara could not do to canelo what rigo did to donaire because canelo would not have that, he is too good.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:39 am 


Anonymous

You cant’ win a fight by running. Lara was afraid to fight Alvarez. One left uppercut did more damage than all of Lara’s baby punches. If Lara wants to win a fight he needs to fight…………….I had the fight 117-111 for Alvarez, Lara did nothing but run like hell………………….

Posted July 15, 2014 1:34 am 


BEARS

I think they will have a rematch in a few years

Posted July 15, 2014 1:31 am 


BEARS

joe herron you cannot give ring generalship to the runner man. NO WAY!!! hello no. awarding ring generalship for non fighting and causing a lull in the action? NO WAY!! This is the fight game son. had canelo not aggressed there would not have BEEN A FIGHT! ring generalship to canelo ALL DAY

Posted July 15, 2014 1:31 am 


Jack jones

Canelo lost preiod! I disagree on who controled the ring. If Canelo is swinging and hitting air and shots áre being blocked. Who is really controlling the fight. To me looked sill y and slow most of the night . I cant vive him rounds for that even as the aggressor.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:28 am 


BEARS

joe says canelos numbers are bad and so are lara’s and joe is not making the running connection. he is using different terminology

Posted July 15, 2014 1:24 am 


BEARS

joe herron needs to remember that canelo is only 23. he has not faced but two runners in his career and b/w fraud and lara CANELO made HUGE advancements. those advancements are going to continue. using lighter punches to setup/distract and prepare opponents for combos and power punching. it will come for canelo. canelo IMPROVES every time out son!!!

Posted July 15, 2014 1:23 am 


BEARS

**i do not hate fraud. I just think he is a fraud. He is def a great ATG fighter. i did not say he is not.

mayweather has just ducked and dodged all the best fights of his career that were available to him. had he taken and won those fights i think no one would dispute calling him the GOAT. i the cassius clay would even sell him the rights to use the GOAT.

fraud has just failed every time to make the best fights possible. i mean his last fight was b/w kahn or a mere con and maidana. BOTH dudes way down on the list of best options. but fraud has been making excuses for not facing the best opponents for years. it was awesome to see fraud punished for not making the best fights possible and watching maidana beat him.

i have wanted the best for fraud. fraud wanted to secure big money not the goat status. not the best of all time. he markets and sells bgarbage matchups like guerrero, baldomir, ortiz, etc.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:21 am 


Anonymous

Logic

Change your name you’re an idiot

Posted July 15, 2014 1:16 am 


BEARS

i see joe herrons show the pugilist korner did the weekend wrap but joe has not put anything here at east side. maybe joe is giving up on east side

Posted July 15, 2014 1:06 am 


Anonymous

@Crystall Ball – “When the(pretend power shots) don’t have any significant effect, how can they be power shots, especially to the (most hit the arms) body.”

So you’re happy to claim that the power shots landed by Canelo were ineffective and semi-blocked, yet by still going to Compubox numbers, you’re implying that every punch thrown by Lara as counted by Compubox landed cleanly and effectively (i.e. moreso than the ones they counted for Canelo)? Can you not see the inherent bias in that?

Again, I’m not saying it was a clear-cut victory in either direction… but if Canelo’s power shots weren’t landing and were ineffective, then why was Lara slowing down? Why was he so quick to hold once Canelo got a roll on with his bodyshots? If they weren’t effective, why wasn’t Lara counter-punching and punishing Canelo for dropping his hands into a body attack?
Heck, have you ever seen a fighter in with an opponent incapable of landing effectively on him seem so eager to completely avoid confrontation?

Mayweather showed against Canelo what a fighter does when they render their opponent’s offence ineffective… they punish them for it. They don’t run around the ring waiting for the bell to ring, then expect to get a win for it.

Posted July 15, 2014 1:05 am 


logic

just to throw a couple of additional points in the mix:

1) lara was much more “mobile” in this fight than against trout.

2)canelo’s body punches sure make a loud noise (maybe that explains point 1)

3) i didnt think canelo looked that healthy before the fight,after the fight,or when he gassed halfway through the 12th.He even said he felt old at the postfight interview.

4)I gave floyd the first 11 rounds against 153 pound canelo.i thought floyd definitely lost some agressiveness when canelo stopped his futile headhunting and went to the body at the very end.

5)unlike floyd,lara had to deal with a 155 pound body-punching FRANKEN-NELO from round 3.therefore his task was harder than floyd’s.

Posted July 15, 2014 12:56 am 


BEARS

fights are not judged on compubox alone. and you forgot to list the nature of the punches landed. lara outjabbed canelo

canelo out power punched lara by a huge margin

i think crystal is confused on how the pro’s are scored. first and foremost you should understand nothing like olympics or amateurs.

Posted July 15, 2014 12:55 am 


Anonymous

DON’T MATTER, CANELO VS COTTO IS BETTER ATTRACTION THAN LARA VS ANYBODY.

Posted July 15, 2014 12:53 am 


BEARS

LARGO- fraud mayweather is another runner like lara. he got beat by maidana as well. fraud just has economic clout. he is making great money as both the blacks who want to see him win buy his ppv’s and the mexicans who want to see him loose on their holidays buy it. people around fraud are making money off him.

Canelo announced he plans on taking the mexican holidays back. it’s a good strategy for trying to get a rematch expecially if canelo follows through and can steal the mexican portion of frauds’ ppv sales.

Saturday was a step in the right direction. i hope judges start sh!tting all over running styles. after fruad may is gone hopefully we will not see many runners anymore. and non making a lot of money in boxing. boxing is fighting, not running.

Posted July 15, 2014 12:51 am 


BEARS

You officially did loose lara and sadly the average fan has a very short memory. Honestly, you complaining about the shake you got will get you no satisfaction. Nobody is coming to your rescue lara, and this decision will not be over turned.

You are a great boxer and some people who prefer your style/aesthetic think you won. I am glad you are comparing yourself to mayweather.

I think you and mayweather should fight for multiple reasons. I think you can beat mayweather at his own game. You have better, faster, younger legs. But it will show how much people really appreciate you and mayweathers style. I doubt the fight will sell very well and mayweather has never and i do not think will ever fight a style like his as it would be too hard for him and a good chance he will loose or look like nothing special.

lara vs mayweather would be awesome for so many reasons. it would show how well your styles sell alone. my guess is not well. and i think lara could expose mayweather worse than maidana and with a similar style to mayweathers.

but mayweather will fight maidana it will be mayweather and the ref vs maidana

then kahn

then a guerrero or cotto rematch because mayweather is a FRAUD

Posted July 15, 2014 12:45 am 


T.B.

Lara did look like the better fighter Saturday night but he just wouldn’t throw punches …..

Posted July 15, 2014 12:11 am 


mephisto

and his fans, all 3 of them.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:53 pm 


mephisto

f/uck lara.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:52 pm 


largo

& if Lara thought he was gonna make Floyd to consider him a possible opponent, he just blew it after such disgraceful display…in other words, Lara missed his opportunity BIG TIME!!, so, Floyd’s moving on & so is Canelo…

Posted July 14, 2014 11:49 pm 


Ray Ray

Hes probs got a point…..in the close 1’s the big name will get the nod. If Floyd runs & lands a higher % he wins, so I no how Lara could b saying he won. Should def have a rematch.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:47 pm 


rod

Lara has that running style. Constantly moving away from his opponent. He needed to connect more convincingly. Could have been a draw could have gone either way but I though canelo just got there by constantly being the aggressor pressing the action and but landing what looked like the harder punches.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:38 pm 


largo

Raise your hand if you, as fan, want to watch a f’n runner unwilling to stand his ground for a f’n second…as far as I’m concerned Lara deserves sh!t & that’s what he’ll ultimately get. Canelo’s moving on, like he should.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:32 pm 


Ponchito

Lara lost and I was rooting for him. Every round I was begging him to punch just a little more, show the judges that you want to win. He didn’t respond or retaliate after being hit by loud thudding body shots. And we know the body shots were effective because he slowed down he fought less and ran more. That’s what effective aggression makes a fighter do run, and not fight at all cost. Any real fan of boxing knows Lara lost. What he did was nothing remotely similar to the way mayweather fights. He threw NOOO body punches. He hardly ever exchanged on the inside and when Alvarez was visibly tired Lara never pressed him in return. Lara lost and I rooted for him.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:27 pm 


largo

Talking about not planting his feet & all the flak Floyd gets from the usual haters-as$holes-like Hidalgo, BEARS & Squared Moron & other retards, Floyd goes after his opponents with malicious intent & that’s to me why he’s so successful; Otherwise, think about it, he’d be another runner like Lara who’s style doesn’t excite anybody but haters & Cubans…

Posted July 14, 2014 11:23 pm 


PEEJ

And just so you know Stilltoosalty, I scored the fight by Lara by 2 rounds. But I knew he wasn’t gonna get the nod cause he was running

Posted July 14, 2014 11:12 pm 


PEEJ

I understand the sweet science. I’m a fan of the sweet science. Yeah I like a brawl from time to time. But I like watching Hopkins, Floyd, Toney, Spadafora, Oscar, Vargas fight. I admire the sweet science more than brawling. Anybody can throw punches and take punches if your chin can take it. But Lara was running. The same way Hakaar was running from Hopkins and the same way Oscar ran in his only time against Tito the last 4 rounds

Posted July 14, 2014 11:10 pm 


largo

Lara & his fans can b!tch all they want-after all that’s what b!tches do-but all that running won’t convince anyone that he won; his mistake was that he never planted his feet to make Canelo respect him. He never, not once, try to punch with malice to make a point & hurt & discourage carrot top, NOT ONCE…he lost not only the fight but any chance to separate himself from other Cuban fighters & he doesn’t deserve a rematch; in fact, a runner like him should get TFO of our TV screens, for good.

Posted July 14, 2014 11:08 pm 


No Gutz No Glory

What happen to the days of Marvin Hagler, Aaron Pryor, Ray Leonard, Thomas Hearns, Holyfield, Tyson, Bowe, Terry Norris, Julian Jackson, Gerald McClellan ect just to name a few..black fighters today are all athleticism no guts, no glory..and their fans want to cry why they get no attention..

Posted July 14, 2014 11:06 pm 


n.y john

I watched the fight again and there is know Way Lara lost that fight boxing is scored on most effective punches and Lara won that fight

Posted July 14, 2014 10:59 pm 


Sooo…

Lara ” so its hit and run run avoid? ” Dance around, run, avoid then jab?

Posted July 14, 2014 10:42 pm 


Sooo…

Good thing Lara WASNT standing in front of Canelo. In fact he wasnt anywhere in the vicinity of the ring. It was like watching Canelo shadowbox because Lara wasnt around to impress the judges. He was too busy giving his fans a ballerina show. Lara thought he could impress the judges with his fancy footwork. Too bad his name wasnt “Erislandy Mayweather”. That may have helped him get the decision.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:40 pm 


Stilltoosalty

Peej

That’s boxing. Even as a kids pretending to box they move around they don’t stand there like fools and see who hits the hardest.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:37 pm 


Sooo…

Whats it gonna take to convince you princesses that Canelo is a “good enough” fighter. Fight a p4p fighter(Mayweather)? or an undefeated bigger man(Trout)? A real test, true jr middleweight?(Angulo) or a slick and avoided fighter(Lara)? Enough said…haters gonna hate

Posted July 14, 2014 10:28 pm 


PEEJ

Stilltoosalty if you don’t think that was running it shows your ignorance. Even people who scored it for Lara still say he ran

Posted July 14, 2014 10:27 pm 


REM

Lmao us mma fans and practitioners strive for perfect techinque and appreciate perfect techinque thats at the core of martial arts. Im a huge Lara fan and wanted him to clearly beat Canelo I would’ve looked like a genius. Canelo simply was better against Lara than I thought he would be because even though he’s not swift on his feet he’s a cagey, intelligent young technical boxer who was able to neutralize Lara and force Lara to be far to cautious. Trying to sell Canelo as a bum is just not realistic.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:24 pm 


Sooo…

Stilltoosalty- If you like boring fights then keep following Lara. simple. Bottomline, it could have gone either way. Lara couldnt impress the judges and in the end its a loss no matter what. Lara had his chance to shine. Talking smack and instead he was trying to win a decision over a popular house fighter which was just not going to happen. Lara must of known that. So why did he play it safe? Only Mayweather can do that.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:22 pm 


Cheezb

The whole “total punches landed” point is a farce… it’s trying to manipulate evidence to suit one’s needs rather than following the true evidence.

Even if you’re into Compubox, the round-by-round breakdown would be the more important factor. A close look there is very revealing in that there are quite a lot of rounds where most of Lara’s work is jabs, whereas Canelo’s work is power punches… flicked jabs simply don’t outscore power shots, not in any sane person’s scorecard. It’s not like Lara was throwing Wlad Klitschko ramrod jabs or something.

That said, it was a close fight (if you could even call it a fight). I had Canelo slightly up but wouldn’t have argued with a narrow Lara victory either. Lara needs to stamp some authority on rounds instead of taking the “Italian soccer team” strategy and spending an entire round trying to protect a perceived lead (a lead he often didn’t even have)… this isn’t the amateurs any more.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:19 pm 


the oracle

@Sooo…he could stop ducking Wilder, the future of boxing, for start

Posted July 14, 2014 10:19 pm 


Sooo…

RT- give it a break. You have been passing around that list for days. we get it. You dont like Canelo. its cool.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:18 pm 


Sooo…

Whats it gonna take to convince you princesses that Canelo is a “good enough” fighter. Fight a p4P fighter(Mayweather)? undefeated bigger man(Trout)? A real test, true jr middleweight?(Angulo) or a slick and avoided fighter(Lara)? Enought said…

Posted July 14, 2014 10:17 pm 


Rt

The Canelo loss list, Part#1

Canelo loses to the following fighters:

Mayweather – L
Lara – L
Trout – Draw

GGG – L (KO)
Cotto – L
Pacquiao – L
Andrade – L
Thurman – L

Posted July 14, 2014 10:15 pm 


Stilltoosalty

Stop with the running stuff u all sound like a bunch of b!tches all ganged together talking about the new pretty girl trying to character assassinate the athletic boxer. If u call it running, you are only showing your ignorance and that u are racists. There u go MMA Fans

Posted July 14, 2014 10:14 pm 


Stilltoosalty

Captain Black

Look dude this is a boxing site. I have seen too many real mutha&@$ fall, than to sit and argue with an internet tuff guy. Canelo is still a bum. Canelo is great against slow move forward plodders.

Posted July 14, 2014 10:08 pm 


PEEJ

Unfortunately the Crystal Btich knows nothing of this great sport. He thinks marathons are boxing matches. Never seen Toy Jones run, James To ey, Barerra, Morales. Never seen them boys run yet they could still box. Gotta get your knowledge up or you’ll just keep getting proven wrong. Thought would of learned that by know. Idiot

Posted July 14, 2014 10:05 pm 


the oracle

Neither of these bums would last a round with the future of boxing Deontay Wilder. You heard it here first !

Posted July 14, 2014 9:53 pm 


Kato3388

Rnd. 1 – Lara
Rnd. 2 – Canelo
Rnd. 3 – Lara
Rnd. 4 – Canelo
Rnd. 5 – Lara
Rnd. 6 – Canelo
Rnd. 7 – Canelo
Rnd. 8 – Canelo
Rnd. 9 – Canelo
Rnd. 10 – Canelo
Rnd. 11 – Lara
Rnd. 12 – Canelo

I rewatched it again. 3rd time. Round 5 was close, but I gave it to Lara. Rounds 9 & 10 were close but I gave it to Canelo because I appreciate effective aggression over lateral movement with very little offense.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:48 pm 


Stilltoosalty

Listen MMA fans

Y’all are not worthy enough to be called boxing fans. Cuz y’all don’t know sh!t bout boxing. Accept dees like a real man. Canelo blew it. The blue prints is out on him. They will put him against plodders only not boxer.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:42 pm 


REM

I think there’ll be a rematch but no time in the near future. Truly a shame to because this to me was just a great matchup. I have to give Canelo credit for that because I thought Lara would win by a comfortable margin but Canelo didn’t let Lara distance himself. Canelo showed improvement with handling lateral movement by timing the movement well with power body shots. In the end these are the 2 best j mws in the world and they must cross paths again.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:40 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Stilltoosalty

If u think Canelo won you are either blind, racist or both. Mayb just demented blind bats smh. I’m just laughing at y’all cuz we all know the truth. This it’s for me no more arguing with y’all. Canelo still a bum, u know it, he know it, and now the world knows it smh.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:32 pm

^i’m both then. eat a d!ck too. haha

Posted July 14, 2014 9:38 pm 


hibdeebibdee

“Lara thinking he won by running a 12 round marathon is a cynical approach to boxing.”

Canelo didn’t look so hot chasing him around the ring either. Canelo is not an effective aggressor and he’s not good at cutting off the ring. If he was quicker on his feet he could have done better.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:35 pm 


Stilltoosalty

If u think Canelo won you are either blind, racist or both. Mayb just demented blind bats smh. I’m just laughing at y’all cuz we all know the truth. This it’s for me no more arguing with y’all. Canelo still a bum, u know it, he know it, and now the world knows it.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:33 pm 


Stilltoosalty

If u think Canelo won you are either blind, racist or both. Mayb just demented blind bats smh. I’m just laughing at y’all cuz we all know the truth. This it’s for me no more arguing with y’all. Canelo still a bum, u know it, he know it, and now the world knows it smh. Lol

Posted July 14, 2014 9:32 pm 


Stilltoosalty

If u think Canelo won you are either blind, racist or both. Mayb just demented blind bats smh. I’m just laughing at y’all cuz we all know the truth. This it’s for me no more arguing with y’all. Canelo still a bum, u know it, he know it, and now the world knows it smh.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:32 pm 


Stilltoosalty

Too all of you blind bats, or racists fans. You think Canelo won because you are conditioned too see, think and feel how u feel. Lara won in the court of public opinion. It’s too much controversy there will b a rematch.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:25 pm 


the oracle

Wlad is ducking both these guys. He is a bum.

Posted July 14, 2014 9:22 pm 


Public Enemy

datruths hurts dont it princess !!

Posted July 14, 2014 9:09 pm 


lightsoutOhio

Lara talks more than a B!t@h. Canelo won deal with it

* Abril vs Rios was the worst judging
Also Provod vs Algieri

How odd its both Top Stink. Only setup to sh!tty fights and try robbing the fans hard earned money

Posted July 14, 2014 9:07 pm 


Public Enemy

Canelo spent the entire fight hitting nothing but THIN AIR gloves shoulders arms and hips REAL TALK !!

Posted July 14, 2014 9:07 pm 


Public Enemy

Canelo landed 36 more hard, thudding power punches and that’s why he won the decision. If you scored the fight in favor of track-star Lara just because he landed 10 more feather- fisted jabs throughout the fight, you scored it like an amateur match. Pro fights are NOT supposed to be about tit for tat pity pat games of tag you’re it. They’re scored on who lands the HARDER, MORE EFFECTIVE, CONSEQUENTIAL punches. Pro boxing is “the hurt game.”

lols watch the fight again and you will see that MOST of these POWER PUNCHERS LionPrincess is going on about … Land of the arms shoulders and gloves of Lara .. Some on the commentary were calling out double lefthooks landed ..WHich clearly did NOT LAND on the head OR BODY of Lara . Again SC has his BIAS and that is all it is HOT AIR from his mothers Basement !

Posted July 14, 2014 8:55 pm 


Blind Mice

No way Boxtra is the best prophet.Martinez 117 111 is the best.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:55 pm 


DaTruth ass Hurtzzz

Canelo won. Harder punches. Was the aggressor. Lara wasnt boxing he was running. All that talk about how he was gonna give Canelo a cuban boxing lesson. The only one that got school was him. How NOT to impress the judges.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:50 pm 


Boxtradamus

OOOOPS forgot to change MY name back after SPANKING the idiot down below.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:49 pm 


The GoldenFraude Fix was in

Canelo won. Deal with it. LADREN PERROS!

Posted July 14, 2014 8:48 pm 


Sellout Ref let Maidana use MMA to NO avail

“Basically you picked the favourite as always in a 50 50 fight! Wow!!!”-IF its a 50-50 Fight then that means that there IS NO favourite you DUMB ASS…..I don’t pick favourites anyway. I pick the WINNER.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:48 pm 


The GoldenFraude Fix was in

Flashy*

Posted July 14, 2014 8:47 pm 


The GoldenFraude Fix was in

Im cuban and I think Lara didnt do enough to win. Flashing legs movments with jabs aint gonna do it. Canelo won. Talk all you want. Ladren PERROS!

Posted July 14, 2014 8:47 pm 


The GoldenFraude Fix was in

Hi, its me. Public Enemy. Aka DaTruth ass Hurtzzz

Posted July 14, 2014 8:45 pm 


Blind Mice

I had Canelo up a few RDS but Malignaggi should of won the split decision but Lara scored it 117 111 wtf was he watching good fight though algieri gave his best.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:45 pm 


Boxtradumass

Hi. Im Boxtradumass. Over the years Ive come to realize that no one really takes me serious. I just like annoying everyone with my rants about being a boxing guru but really I cant even afford a meal. Currently Im using the library’s computer and I expect to get kicked out soon. I cant even tell the difference between my left shoe or the right shoe. For a very long time I thought Canelo was white and Lara was American. So forgive me guys.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:43 pm 


Sellout Ref let Maidana use MMA to NO avail

Maidana used MMA against a Boxer and still LOST. Floyd’s Boxing is SO PURE that even MMA tactics can’t beat him. WOW!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 8:27 pm 


Boxtradamus

Taco Bell-You don’t read TOO well. I took Canelo by TWO blind MICE decision and I was CORRECT. I honestly celebrate yet another Victory!!!!!!!!!!!! Age is no factor in celebrating. I celebrate no matter WHAT age I am. And I will continue to DO it.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:25 pm 


Boxtradamus

There needs to be a quality control system in Boxing. Someone should be evaluating the Judges scores in each Fight and correcting them behind closed doors when they’re WRONG. The NBA and NFL do this with their officials. They have a HEAD guy in charge of officiating and his job is to make sure that the officials do a GOOD job. The guy who SAID that Lara LOST 9 rounds had better pray for new EYEBALLS. The ones he has now don’t work TOO well.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:21 pm 


Boxtradamus

There should be open scoring after EVERY round. That way when a Judge gives a round to a guy that CLEARLY lost that round he will get EXPOSED as a DUFUS.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:13 pm 


Boxtradamus

I predicted that Canelo would WIN by TWO blind MICE decision and I was CORRECT to the TEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!!!1

Posted July 14, 2014 8:12 pm 


CHYLDE

I do expect Junito to step up as You say.. I don’t see the ducking though.. If You mean when he took on Martinez instead of Canelo that was Business first and that was a very smart move on his behalf. See in return he got a Middle weight Belt Made history by being the Boricua to become a fourth division Champion. Looking extremely impressive doing so by the way.
How many times did Cotto sell Out Madison Square Garden Now? If he is not the A Side 50/50 would be good and fair being that I’m sure Oscar would not want it any other way.
B ut all in all I see Cotto Beating Canelo if they do fight.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:10 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Tark … I accept your criticism.

De La Hoya vs. Sturm is the worst decision in boxing in the last 10 years.

But I can say that Bradley-Provodnikov and Provodnikov-Algieri were not as bad. I would still like to identify the other 2-3 really bad decisions.

I was actually at Hopkins vs. Taylor I live and I thought Hopkins was too inactive in the early rounds. Taylor got a bad cut on the scalp and he did what he always does — he tired toward the end of the fight. But I can’t say it was terrible because Hopkins didn’t do much early.

I would have to go back and look at Matthysee vs. Judah and Matthysee vs. Alexander. I think both Matthysee vs. Judah fight was a worse decision. Both Alexander and Judah got knocked down in those fights. I am not sure those decisions were terrible … but we are getting close.

A lot o people would say Bradley vs. Pacquiao I was a terrible decision.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:04 pm 


Livershot

Lara landed the cleaner and shots that showed on Canelo’s face. Canelo landed body shots that don’t show at all. I had it a draw. If you like boxing and count effective punching, good foot work and ring generalship you thought Lara won. If you like the all out pressure and aggresion you thought Canelo won. Most people look with fans eyes and fail to see what the other fighter is doing. The phantom 111-117 score struck again. These judges need to explain themselves to a board on how they scored every round and the reasons they scored it the way they did. If they can’t the should be suspended or banned from the sport.

Posted July 14, 2014 8:02 pm 


Rustybucket

Good for you, now sod off back to your Planet.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:59 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Judge Reignhold … you are new to boxing right?

You have not seen much boxing because if you think Alvarez was beaten up then you don’t know what it looks like when a guy gets beat-up in boxing.

Andre Berto has been beaten-up his last 2-3 fights. Mago Abdusalamov was beaten-up in his last fight to the point of being near death and in a coma.

Canelo Alvarez was not beaten-up.

It was a close fight. Either guy could have gotten the decision.

Judge Reignhold should watch more boxing before you give your opinion.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:58 pm 


alien

I’m an Alien and saw the fight from my Spaceship and had Canelo win 120 to 108…

Posted July 14, 2014 7:53 pm 


TARK

Love-the-Sport…, You’re right about the Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Sturm fight.

The other fights??? Freddie Roach was threatening to stop the Bradley-Provodnikov fight.. I thought Provo won and he had a couple super big rounds.. He also lost a lot of rounds.. That wasn’t really that terrible.

Ditto Provo-Algieri.. I had Provo winning that fight too.. But Algieri landed a lot more punches and showed massive grit.. Now grit doesn’t win fights — but it does impress some judges… It shouldn’t, absolutely.

The Hopkins-Taylor fights were horrlble decisions.. The Matthysee-Judah decision was a flat out robbery.. The Alexander-Matthysse decision was almost as bad.. The 1st Pacquiao-Bradley fight was a flat out robbery … They’re all almost as bad as De La Hoya-Sturm.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:50 pm 


The GoldenFraude Fix was in

Juidge Reinhold – Canelo was also cut and bleeding from his Eye thanks to a Lara straight Left.. but these Mexicans want to act as if it didn’t happen.. Canelos face was busted up badly worst then in any other fight he’s had.. how did that happen?? Did he slip on his Panties??

Posted July 14, 2014 7:45 pm 


The GoldenFraude Fix was in

Everyone in Boxing who isn’t a Canelo Koolaid drinkin Chihuahua knows damn well that Lara should’ve won by Unanimous Decision.. even the SHO talking Heads hyping Canelo up during the fight had Lara Winning in the End.. now you know that’s hard for them to say but it was so obvious..

Posted July 14, 2014 7:44 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Judge Reigngold … you are an idiot.

Did Lara beat the crap out of Alvarez?

Yes or No?

If it was a close fight then either guy could have won.

And there was no way the decision was as bad as other bad decisions in the last ten years.

You are an idiot.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:40 pm 


Rustybucket

Professional boxing means just that,
Make the fight and that makes the money.

Jezz, It’s not rocket science.

Sorry Lara, but you lost.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:40 pm 


Sellout Mex Judge gave Canelo the Win

Only Mexicans believe Canelo won.. and that Criminal Paid off Mexican Judge.. LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 7:40 pm 


Mexican Judge gave Canelo the win

The Sellout Judge, Levi Martinez who gave Canelo a 117 – 111 outrageous Victory is a Mexican.. what else do you need to know??? LOL

Posted July 14, 2014 7:30 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Let me also suggest the following … and I welcome better suggestions.

Here are my top 3 worst decisions in the last 10 years:

(1) Oscar De La Hoya vs. Felix Sturm

Sturm was robbed. I don’t Oscar won a round in this fight. Oscar came in fat and slow and Sturm fought a great fight and went on to be top middleweight. This was a terrible decision.

(2) Timothy Bradley vs. Ruslan Provodnikov

Timothy Bradley was knocked senseless in this fight. He was knocked down early but the referee blew the call. He was wobbled and basically chicken-walking through much of the fight. Bradley responded in a few rounds with combinations and “running” but he was wobbled in at least 6 out of 12 rounds and there several opportunities for 10-8 rounds with no knockouts. And then somehow Bradley gets the decision. In my opinion, this was a terrible decision and makes a mockery of boxing. The guy who gets his ass-kicked should lose. Period.

(3) Ruslan Provodnikov vs. Chris Algieri

This was a terrible decision. Provodnikov again knocks the guy down. Wobbles Algeiri. Busts up his eye. He throws big left hooks all night and Algieri somehow gets the decision. Referees were giving him credit for meaningless activity. Again this defeats the entire point of boxing. Effective aggressiveness. The guy who gets his ass-kicked should lose.

I would argue that Lara vs. Alvarez was no way near a bad decision by comparison to these fights.

I would challenge the board for other examples and again any other example you guys come up — Lara vs Alvarez would not be a bad decision by comparison.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:29 pm 


Sant Flores

I’m Mexican and have to say Lara did win but the problem really goes deep into the corruption in boxing. Although you out punched Canelo, you gave them (the judges) an excuse to give the fight to him by you not taking more risk.
Bottom line you won at least 7 rounds, maybe 8 but your running gave the judges just what they needed to give Canelo the unjust decision!!

Posted July 14, 2014 7:26 pm 


Ray ‘The Man’ Flores

Mexican beat the Kooban. Thats all, Kooban got beat.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:25 pm 


Carniverous

If you think Lara won go back and watch the fight again. Wait…… Who the fk would EVER!! watch that fight again.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:21 pm 


Love-the-Sport

This entire argument is stupid.

Alvarez vs. Lara was close fight. It could have gone either way. For Lara — or anybody else — to say that there is “NO WAY” that he lost to Alvarez is stupid. It was a close fight. In a close fight EITHER GUY COULD WIN.

If Lara doesn’t want a problem with the decision, I have an idea … stand there and fight Alvarez and beat the crap out him. Knock Alvarez down. Knock Alvarez out. Cut Alvarez up. Bruise him up.

If that doesn’t happen and it is a close — there is nothing to complain about. It was a close fight. Either guy could win.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:15 pm 


TARK

@Squared Circle.., Lara won the fight in my view and a lot of other people’s views.. Canelo got credit for connects that didn’t find a scoring area, many times.

If you think Canelo won? Hey. You’re a Canelo fan. I’m not a Lara fan but he’s a good boxer who didn’t do the job — in light of what he had to do vs a Mexican idol.

I got a call from a young unbeaten pro right after the fight and he said Lara was robbed blind.. I agreed, but told him Lara didn’t help himself by the way he fought.. He did too much moving and not enough punchng.. He was fighting a Mexican idol who the fans were favoring all the way.. He had to do more … and Ronnie Shields was too passive between rounds.

I understand the verdict, but not Levi Martinez’s score.

A judge who scores the fight 117-111 for Canelo? That’s just complete BS… Lara wasn’t going to get Levi Martinez’s vote no matter what he did… but he could have gotten the other guy who didn’t vote for him.

Now there were some very close rounds, and this was a fairly tough fight to score.. Not for me, but I think for a lot of people.. I believe Canelo fans gave him all the close rounds to let him squeak by 115-113 … but to give him 9 rounds is ridiculous..

And I am NOT using amateur scoring criteria… I know more about professional scoring criteria than you likely do.

Posted July 14, 2014 7:11 pm 


The Mad Scientist

CHYLDE, how is Cotto the A fighter against Canelo..Alvarez is doing better numbers on PPV not to mention he (Canelo) blew Cotto out the water against a comment opponent..I wouldn’t be surprise if Cotto and his fans prize themselves out just to duck the fight..50/50 would be fair now its time for Junito to step and show his win against Martinez was no fluke..

Posted July 14, 2014 7:10 pm 


The Mad Scientist

I have to question the Lara fans manhood..how do men with balls support this kind of gutless performance from the cuban, don’t they know this is prize fighting..Lol! Whatta bunch of twatz!

Posted July 14, 2014 7:04 pm 


CHYLDE

I Think they should let it go.. at best the fight might have been a Draw.. and no one cares for a draw also it was a non Title fight Lara at least still is Champ. we’ll see on there next fight against different and better opposition which truly is the best of the two. and forget the statement of styles makes
fight for their styles both sucked. I want Canelo Cotto NEXT!!!!! or Rather Cotto Canelo since to me Cotto is the A fighter in this bout aswell.

Posted July 14, 2014 6:57 pm 


Carniverous

They should make Lara a deal. He can have the win if he pays back every person that bought that piece of shyt PPV. Give me a break Lara won. He lost and everyone that wasted their money lost. Rematch? Who would ever pay to see that guy again. Look, i respect slick boxers but if you are gonna be the B side of a PPV event grow a set of balls and give the people their moneys worth. You aint mayweather Lara and Mayweather gives the fans a lot more.

Posted July 14, 2014 6:53 pm 


JoeKidd

The guy won the fight Mayweather style. Problem is, he has a different name! I have no problems with judges forcing guys to fight. But be consistent!

Posted July 14, 2014 6:28 pm 


Anonymous

yeah right Tard, now youre tight with the ”pros”. lmao, what a story teller!

Posted July 14, 2014 6:27 pm 


LOL

TARK

YOU’VE LOST ALL CREDIBILITY.

Posted July 14, 2014 6:05 pm 


REM

Well Lara welcome to America lol. The land of opportunity and you gave boxing the opportunity keep their golden goose in place while removing the threat you are for a long long time. Shields didn’t do a good job guiding this kid.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:54 pm 


kato3388

If a round is close, I’d lean more towards the fighter who is trying to make the fight happen. he aggressor, the presser.

I can admit that lateral movement is effective and should be employed by those who favor that style, but it’s boring and if the retreater, runner, evader, isn’t doing anything offensively then that round should go to the aggressor.

Algeri vs. Provo was a simliar fight. Initially I thought Provo did enough to win the fight based on effective aggressiveness but on second look, if I gave some of the close rounds to Algeri, then I can see how/why he won. But my initial reaction was that Provo won.

With Lara vs. Canelo.. I saw the fight twicey, and both times Canelo came out on top. For sure I gave Lara Round 1 & Round 3.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:49 pm 


LOL

“You have to respect what I’m saying and not imply I’m not being straight“`

SAYS THE LIAR AND FLIP FLOPPER
TARK AKA BRENT AKA BUNDINI BLACK AKA ANONYMOUS AKA GOLD AKA ………………………………………………

Posted July 14, 2014 5:47 pm 


maxmus

hey tark..lennox did a number on vitali.. haven’t u swallowed that yet? and be honest dude..lara would cut a better figure on come dancing than in any boxing ring..

Posted July 14, 2014 5:46 pm 


kato3388

@GUS-GUS… EXACTLY!

Posted July 14, 2014 5:42 pm 


Teri

The art of boxing is to hit and not get hit, if you want to stand toe to toe that is not boxing but a slug fest

Posted July 14, 2014 5:41 pm 


Bobby

@LOL — Martinez is as much an American name as it is a Mexican one. It originates from Spain, all other countries merely adopted Spanish. Millions speak Spanish in the US and there are thousands of people with the family name Martinez whom were born in the US. Yeah, it’s an American name.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:40 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Thanks for the shout Viking1.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:39 pm 


maxmus

Well if thats cuban school i’d rather get a mexican education..cuban school? learn to run like a rabbit ??

Posted July 14, 2014 5:37 pm 


Ok

Lara didnt press the fight he needed to whop Canelo and he didnt you its hard to win a close decisions against the champ in the eyes of the judges unless they bias..,

Posted July 14, 2014 5:35 pm 


Gus

If not one punch was landed in a round by either fighter but one fighter chased the other for the 3 minutes who would you score the round? I would score the round for the fighter who was the aggressor. Very hard to land punches on a fighter who only concentrates on avoiding being hit. Lara did not WIN the fight.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:35 pm 


LOL

is martinez an American name.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:25 pm 


Tomato Can

I can’t blame Lara for thinking he won. He would have gotten the win if they were fighting in the amateurs.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:25 pm 


kato3388

And this is why boxing is so subjective….. I saw the same fight all of you saw… I agree with the judges. Even that 117 – 111 judge. If he based it solely on effective aggression, then Canelo was light years ahead of Lara.

Lara was never the aggressor.
Lara didn’t land the cleaner, better punches.
Lara wasn’t the ring general. Again, and again I say…
Ring Generalship SHOULD NOT automatically favor the retreating fighter, lateral movement, running.. whatever you want to call it.
Defense does go to Lara, for the simple fact he evaded quite a few of Canelo’s shots. However, he didn’t make Canelo pay for his misses at all.

Now people want to get technical and say, Lara landing more punches. Lara landed 10 more punches. And those 10 punches were JABS. JABS that Canelo just walked through.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:20 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah out scoring someone but still getting stopped in the same fight still equals a loss for you

Posted July 14, 2014 5:17 pm 


detroitko

Lara has so much skill and even tho I thought he won – nobody likes that style! You cant dance all night

Posted July 14, 2014 5:14 pm 


hecubus

I had Lara winning by a round, but 115-113 for either guy would not be cause enough to yell “robbery”…..117-111 was a joke. Neither guy was ahead by that much

Posted July 14, 2014 5:13 pm 


TARK

People love Canelo… What can you say.

They were pulling for Canelo to win. Ali got a lot of decisions he didn’t deserve too. People only saw what Ali did and didn’t see what his opponents were doing.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:13 pm 


PEEJ

Yet there are also people, many on press row who scored the fight for Canelo. So either way you scored this fight it was not a robbery. Unless you some how got a 117 to 111.

Posted July 14, 2014 5:07 pm 


TARK

@ Squared Circle… You watched the fight.. You know Paulie Malignaggie and Steve Farhood had Lara winning the fight.. Lou DiBella had Lara winning. The Charlo Bros had him winning…

A few trainers and boxers I talked to had Lara winning. I’m not going to give you a list, but many people went public. A lot of people don’t necessarily want to go public with their opinions — because they don’t want to get on the bad side of Canelo and GB.

You have to respect what I’m saying and not imply I’m not being straight. Several pros told me most of the people they talked to had Lara winning. Some went public with their thoughts.

Robert “The Ghost” Guerrero is one of many people who believe that Lara did enough to deserve a win over Canelo last Saturday night. Guerrero said, “I watched @Laraboxing fight in Mexico yesterday and mostly everyone including me thought he beat Canelo.”

Don’t act like Canelo wasn’t outscored worse then the punchstats. He definitely was. Just Like Vitali outscored Lewis by a very wide margin. You don’t change your basis for who won a fight based on whether you like them … or you don’t like them.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:58 pm 


Anonymous

In every single Vegas fight today you get at least one Judge who is a total CUN#.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:51 pm 


PEEJ

Well they should also teach how to land body punches and actually fight with out running.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:49 pm 


Boxtradamus

MY Prophecy came to FRUITION once again!!!!!!!!!! I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 4:46 pm 


Boxtradamus

Nope. They teach you to land the most shots to the FACE and Lara DID that.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:44 pm 


Second2Nunn

Do Cubans boxing schools teach you to receive 100 clean bodyshots in a fight?

Posted July 14, 2014 4:34 pm 


Run Lara Run

Im cuban and I think Lara is boring. Im glad Canelo won.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:29 pm 


Anonymous

I’m Cambodian and had it 120 to 108 Canelo.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Poor Tark!!! Its killing him that he had Lara winning and that he had him slated to fight Floyd Mayweather NOW he is a guy that will never earn a Mayweather shot with Floyd retiring in a couple of bouts… A close win would have been insufficient but a loss removes that as a possibility… Lara is talented but he will NEVER be a star..

Posted July 14, 2014 4:27 pm 


Boxing 101

Lara says compare his fight to Floyd’s fight with Canelo….”Really” The 2 fights were totally different 1fighter stood in the pocket and Countered all night with occasional movement and potshots while the other fighter ran and seemed indecisive about his offense.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:26 pm 


Ed the Hyena

im chinese and they both are definately bums. lol

Posted July 14, 2014 4:25 pm 


tony montana

Im cuban and canelo won mira hermano you dont go on payperview and run for your life have cojones and box you disgraced cuba by running and then your fat manager cries on the mic

Posted July 14, 2014 4:20 pm 


Sant Flores

I’m Mexican and yes Lara you did beat Canelo but get over that stupid decision and move on!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 4:13 pm 


PEEJ

doubt you can find one. Once someone disagrees with you they want to bash you because they are the only ones that are correct.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:12 pm 


PEEJ

Read Doug Fishers mail box this morning and he said the polled people were basically split down the middle for either boxer and a couple had a draw.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:11 pm 


gumboot

Off topic: can anyone recommend a forum that intelligently discusses boxing because the prepubescent, anal retentive, racist ego massaging subnormal diarrhea that passes for informed discussion from so many posters is wearing very thin. Seriously folks, surely this exists. Recommendations please.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:08 pm 


TARK

I’ll say this. Most professional boxing people I talked to had Lara winning.

However… a number of them blamed Lara for a stupid game plan of high speed footwork.. It didn’t make a lot of sense.. He seemed to be trying to impress the judges with his foot speed and endurance – and with Canelo’s lack of foot speed and endurance.

He expected Canelo to slow down more than he did.. Canelo was in really good shape for this fight. The 155lb catch-weight definitely helped him in the 2nd half of the fight. His team pulled their heads out of their rear ends … and are doing a better job at the bargaining table.

Posted July 14, 2014 4:02 pm 


PEEJ

But also though could it be that Canelos punches were affective aggression considering they stopped Lara from really engaging to much?

Posted July 14, 2014 4:02 pm 


TARK

Anonymous.., “Last time I checked a fight is not scored by effective back peddling.”

No extra credit is given for aggression unless both boxers score the same number of clean, effective punches. If they do, the more aggressive boxer wins that round — otherwise the guy landing more clean effective punches wins. Clean effective punching trumps all.

Don’t assume one boxer is punching harder, unless there’s empirical evidence.

If you stagger, obviously hurt, or floor your opponent—and don’t suffer same—you win that round, even if your opponent was charging like a bull and you floored him with a defensive check hook as you slid out … but nobody was hurt bad, floored, or staggered in this fight.

There is no criterion that states you can’t box — or use the ring’s full square footage.

The sport is boxing – not fighting.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:58 pm 


DaTruth Hurtzz

This robbery was worse then the Cuban Abril vs Dumb Dumb Rios Robbery in Texas.. and that was so bad the Boxing commission over turned that Texas Robbery..

Posted July 14, 2014 3:52 pm 


Boxtradamus

I picked the WINNER! No one tops me because you can’t possibly top the GREATEST fight prophet ever born!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 3:44 pm 


Viking1

@Fight Aficionado, I just think you said it all, Peace and tolerans

Posted July 14, 2014 3:43 pm 


smithy

it doesnt matter who threw more punches. You could throw a 1000 punchs to 300, but if you only dominate 4 rounds with all those punches and dont throw any in the other rounds then you can only win those rounds 10-9 unless you get a knock down right?? So why is everyone cranking on that he threw more punches so he won the fight?? rds 7 &8 for example, lara hardly threw a punch. Its about winning rounds not who threw the most punches.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:40 pm 


>>>>>> Ed the Hyena

Posted July 14, 2014 3:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

Lara knew going in to this fight he would lose due to the fact that I chose Alvarez to win. If I choose a fighter to win the LOSER might as well not show up. That’s how it is when you are the greatest fight PROPHET ever born!!!!

Posted July 14, 2014 3:35 pm 


Anonymous

Lara shmara

Posted July 14, 2014 3:29 pm 


PEEJ

Lara ran plain and simple. He only has himself to blame. You show up and do that in the biggest fight of your life thats what happens.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:22 pm 


Anonymous

Lara won that fight and that clown of Levi Martinez should be suspe for life im pretty sure the crosdresser of de la hoya….gave him some money under the table to score the fight like that

Posted July 14, 2014 3:21 pm 


mike

Mallinagi was saying that because he fought the same exact way against broner he did say it was a horrible scoring but he also said the fight could’ve gone either way in every round they were separated by a few punches the only round that Lara actually won imo was the first

Posted July 14, 2014 3:17 pm 


Anonymous

LARA LOST!!!! He knew going in to the fight what he needed to get done and he didn’t did you see how he dominated Trout and and knock him down!! That’s wining, now against Canelo he’s only choice was 1 or two shoots and ran, if he try’s to do something ales he would have get knock out, he dose not belong to the elite just like Trout he will vanished too, the games is call Hit and don’t get hit, he didn’t get hit but he didn’t hit back, he out landed Canelo by a few punches because the weak jabs Lara was afraid other wise he would have done more!!! He lost and he deserve to lost he has no fans no power, Canelo open this right eyed with a light upper cut and then he said bye bye Canelo I’m running

Posted July 14, 2014 3:16 pm 


Ed the Hyena

canelo is a bum bum bum.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:15 pm 


Hecdog

Lara won the fight IMHO as I have mentioned a few times, but others don’t want to see it that way. I have watched the fight over several times without bias and trying to even give Canelo as Many rounds as I could to give him the benefit of the doubt and it does not work. Please turn off the volume, score the fight by the following criteria: Clean Punching (Lara), Ring Generalship (Lara), Defense (Lara) Effective Agressiveness (Canelo was not effective) The punch numbers favored Lara. Canelo landed 24 head punches in 12 rounds?? I like Canelo as I have said and think he is going to be a great fighter one day, but he lost the fight. The Canelo crowd changes how they see punches when they are cheering at every punch Canelo throws even if he misses by a mile. Those Body punches were in just 2-3 rounds and many of them were caught on the arms and were not clean. I watched in slow motion. Lara, even though he didn’t throw a million punches, didn’t need to because they were so clean and crisp. The crowd was in awe throughout the fight. They were begging for Canelo to do anything, but Lara had them all tamed like a bunch of kittens. Lara’s defense, which includes moving, slipping, blocking and weaving is CRITERIA used to score each round. It was up to Canelo to find a strategy to stop Lara from doing those things like cut off the ring , and he didn’t. Lara had total control of the fight, and Canelo was desperate. Did you not see him miss by a mile. Lara moved right and Canelo was moving left. The man was confused and just plodded forward swinging for the fences. Lara was calm. cool and collected and he was a sharp shooter landing the jab, straight left to the head and body. Lara controlled the style and pace of the fight. Clean punches from Lara, Beautiful Ring generalship from Lara, Fantastic Defense from Lara and Canelo’s inability to use his Aggressiveness effectively all point to the obvious. Lara is the winner of this fight. Unfortunately, as real boxing fans know. The Cash Cow that has the big promoter(GBP/Oscar) in his pocket will rarely if ever lose a fight when he has a country (Mexico) behind him, and his fans come to pay their money to see him. They are doing a fabulous job of promoting Canelo. He’s slowly making the crossover to the USA fans. They market him on being the Red Headed, light skinned Mexican that is the greatest young fighter in history. Promoters will go at any lengths to make a connection between the young lion and the fans, which I guess is a smart move on there part, but in a fight, his opponents must not just beat him, but practically knock him out. This fight was a mere image of Pernell Whitaker vs Julio Cesar Chavez Sr. Whitaker dominated him in every way, but still lost because he was the boxer and used movement and defense instead of just slug it out. History always repeats itself. The sport will continue to be corrupt as long as fans let them do what they want.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:12 pm 


mike

Getting robbed is what happened to pacman against bradley that was a robbing this was a fight in which all one fighter did was throw jabs and run he did land some nice combos but only like 3-4 the whole fight the rest he spent running and jabbing I’ve never seen any fighter get dazed or k.o. fRon a jab he fought like a puss and you cant say it was a defensive showing or boxing sweet science when you watch good fighters that hit and don’t get hit they don’t run they move around throw step in and out they move side to side but they don’t run Mayweather bhop rigondeaux all fight in a defensive way but they don’t run like lara did I don’t think the rigondeaux fight was boring cause he stood within striking distance of donaire and made him miss and counter punched him and it was beutiful this was just horrible and boring

Posted July 14, 2014 3:11 pm 


Ed the Hyena from ‘the lion king’

lion king , Anonymous is and always was my handle………still better than ‘lion king” the cartoon character. lol

Posted July 14, 2014 3:10 pm 


Anonymous

The funny thing is after the fight lara made fun of canelo for barely throwing over 400 punches, and lara actually threw under 400 punches lol. What was he thinking, that he just needed to run for 12 rounds and if he made canelo miss that he would some how win. Last time I checked the fight is not scored by effective back peddling.

Posted July 14, 2014 3:07 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Lara did out box Alvarez, but he lost the fight in the eyes of the judges. Alvarez seems to be guided by “The Little Engine that Could” philosophy of boxing. Just like this:
At last the Little Blue Engine said, “I think I can climb up the mountain. I think I can. I think I can.” Then the Little Blue Engine began to pull. She tugged and she pulled. She pulled and she tugged. Puff puff,chugchugwentthelittleengine. “IthinkI can. I think I can,” she said. Slowly, slowly, the
train started to move. The dolls and toys began to smile and clap. Puff Puff, chug chug. Up the mountain went the Little Blue Engine. And all the time she kept saying, “I think I can, I think I can, I think I can…” Up, up, up. The little engine climbed and climbed. At last she reached the top of the mountain. Down below lay the city. “Hurray! Hurray!” cried the dolls and animals. “The boys and girls will be so happy,” said the toy clown. “All because you helped us, Little Blue Engine.” The Little Blue Engine just smiled.
But as she puffed down the mountain, the Little Blue Engine seemed to say…”I thought I could, I thought I could, I thought I could, I thought I could.
Now watch the fight again, and see how much Alvarez embodies “The Little Engine that Could.” Puff puff, chug chug went the Canelo. Hurray! Hurray! cried Oscar De La Hoya and the Alvarez fans.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:51 pm 


yoyo

Canelo is garbage he will never be able to defeat a real boxer we saw it against Floyd and now Lara

Posted July 14, 2014 2:49 pm 


punch

Lara is a disgrace to pro boxing, he should go back to the amateurs where his softie style belongs. However, the reason the fight was close was just because there was little action due to Lara’s negativity. I believe in effective punching but what we all saw from Lara last night was an eyesore. I picked Canelo to win via SD or close UD but after watching the fight again, I reckon there is no way Lara won the fight and there was no robbery the two judges who gave the fight to Canelo were more objective in my opinion .

Posted July 14, 2014 2:46 pm 


yoyo

Lara was by far the better fighter all Canelo did was land some power shots which all were to the body the fight was fixed since the beginning becuase they knew Canelo would not win any other way

Posted July 14, 2014 2:44 pm 


kato3388

As GREAT as Rigondeaux is…. why is he not on TV more? Why is he not given the better opportunity to fight on TV?? Because as great as he is… his style is BORING.

Lara will be relegated to that very soon. No one pays good money to see a marathon at a boxing match.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:28 pm 


kato3388

Lara was never the aggressor.
Lara didn’t land the cleaner, better punches.
Lara wasn’t the ring general. Again, and again I say…
Ring Generalship SHOULD NOT automatically favor the retreating fighter, lateral movement, running.. whatever you want to call it.
Defense does go to Lara, for the simple fact he evaded quite a few of Canelo’s shots. However, he didn’t make Canelo pay for his misses at all.

Now people want to get technical and say, Lara landing more punches. Lara landed 10 more punches. And those 10 punches were JABS. JABS that Canelo just walked through.

Posted July 14, 2014 2:10 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Lara thinking he won by running a 12 round marathon is a cynical approach to boxing. Thinking you can run, toss a few pity pat jabs and be rewarded for never once trying to take control of the fight is not boxing. Boxing is fighting not running. Boxing is hitting and not getting hit. Not running and not getting hit. If it was the latter then nobody would watch this sport. Ever.

Posted July 14, 2014 1:55 pm 



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