Rooobbbbeeeerrrrrryyyy in las vegas erislandy lara win easy by ud.115_113by laraPosted August 10, 2014 2:16 am
no thanksPosted August 6, 2014 10:52 am
Stop the BS Cotto is a small 154lb’er and has never been about 155lbs.. He’s not going to fight at 160lbs.. Canelo comes into his fights at 172+lbs easily.. GGG called him out over a year ago, agreed to fight Canelo at 154lbs no questions asked.. what did Canelo do? he decided to fight 140lb Josesito Lopez, shot Angulo.. and ignored GGG’s call out.. LOLPosted July 30, 2014 11:29 am
RRROOOOBBBEEEERRRRYYYYY IN LAS VEGAS .ERISLANDY LARA WIN EASY BY U.D. 115 @ 113 IN THE CLOSEE BY CLEARLY WIN FOR LARA.Posted July 28, 2014 6:46 pm
There’s no Fkn way DelaDruggie and Cinnabums people will let him anywhere near GGG even at 154lbs.. GingerBuns will have to continue fighting 140lb’ers or shot 147lb’ers… Canelo would get knockedafkoutCold… and Canelos people know it…Posted July 28, 2014 12:44 pm
Somebody please tell Lara if he wants to run go to a marathon’ have a nice day.Posted July 26, 2014 2:43 pm
are people now getting fed up with these modern hype jobs. Lol.Posted July 25, 2014 12:43 pm
They should have all the fighters who like to hit and not get hit fight each other and see how many STUPIDS who pay to see that CRAP.Posted July 25, 2014 12:12 pm
Tark, Lara scored but he sure as hell did NOT “beat Canelo up” Alvarez was undeterred by his shots it was Lara who retreated whenever Alvarez made contact or got into position to make contact… AGAIN Lara can box and he has talent but his backpedaling was too much to get a win against a fighter with Canelos fanbase…Posted July 25, 2014 9:43 am
The only boxing knowledge you have is from reading magazines, websites and watching fights on TV.Posted July 25, 2014 3:57 am
Those bums never boxed or trained fighters… All they do is flap their yaps.. They don’t have a clue what they’re talking about..
Canelo didn’t land any punches to the body that had ANY effect.. Lara won 2 of the last 3 rounds on most people’s cards, I had him winning the last 3 rounds easy.. He wasn’t slowing down at all … and he continued to beat Canelo up.Posted July 25, 2014 1:41 am
no one loves a hype job better than Tarkie.Posted July 24, 2014 2:35 pm
max kellerman, I liked Canelo’s harder body punching more than Lara’s cleaner head shots in the slight majority of rounds. Good decision.
dan rafael also had canelo winning 116-112 or something like that.to the point, it was no schooling or robbery of any sort, the majority agree with the decision and as for a rematch?who in the hell would be dumb enough to purchase this crap to see this man run, not box but run like he was being chased by the pigs.pss please,Posted July 24, 2014 1:37 pm
Damm skippy, i run wild on clowns like you who speak idiocy or blashemy on the fight game.this fight was close yes, to say lara shooled him or was he was robbed shows your expertise which in tern force me to say such outrages things.how can you say this fight warrents a rematch and not expect to get slapped a couple of times.Posted July 24, 2014 1:14 pm
Tark was HUGE on Canelo before Mayweather outclassed him! he is PISSED that Lara took himself out of the running for a Mayweather shot by losing to Canelo in a dud fight…HE had BIG plans for Canelo, he is MAD that Martinez got slaughtered…. Tark does not take being WRONG well at all!Posted July 24, 2014 12:17 pm
Lara vs Canelo PROBABLY LOST Lara more fans than he made based on the conversations I am seeing on this forum and articles that abound on the web… Despite his skill he talked a STRONG prefight game and then spent most of the night circling the ring like an overly patient vulture instead of going in for the KILL…Those were Canelos fans at that fight and they were NOT excited or thrilled by Lara’s brand of boxing… AGAIN Lara has terrific skill but he did NOT make the fight and fought like he was the guy filling the venue which is NOT the case… NO ONE is aching to see this fight again ABSENT Tark and a few others but to think this is a blockbuster in the making is pure delusion..Posted July 24, 2014 12:16 pm
Canelo? he’ll continue to dominate at 154lbs and eventually KO Golovkin in a 160lb showdown. not coincidentally, Tark is no longer leading the band for the Canelo bandwagon after a green Canelo was predictably outclassed by Mayweather. contrary to his “expert” analyses but nothing new there. he failed to call Martinez’s KO of Williams and that was among the easiest calls in the past 10 years of Boxing. along with Marquez’s KO of Pacquiao*, which was a no-brainer. after all, Marquez declared it would be his fight-plan all along and the relative ease with which he outboxed Pacquiao* in III made it a virtual certainty. that is, among those fight-fans who know how to watch a fight without imagining another fight altogether.Posted July 24, 2014 11:04 am
“This was a highly controversial decision and has won Lara many worldwide fans for his boxing skills..” BullSh*t. there is zero “buzz” or grumbling about the Canelo’s win. only that Lara made it boring. mainstream fans (PPVs target audience) are over it to the point of forgetting the bout ever happened. this isn’t Marquez “losing” to Pacquiao* in III, or Garcia “defeating” Herrera in PR, and Lara’s Algieri’s mastery of the ring v. Provodnikov was a much more respectable and convincing display of boxing skills. bias will blind even the most knowledgeable “expert” to reality, which is why “experts” are usually the last to realize what actually happened in a boxing ring. there’s a reason nobody bets their money on the consensus pick of most “experts”. it’s because their analyses is no more accurate than that of the average fight-fan. all you need to do is tally the “expert” picks on this website before any fight. compare that with those of your ESB regs, and the accuracy of ESB regs consistently matches or exceeds those of “experts” who always try too hard to appear clairvoyant and more “expert” than the next. just look at Tark’s swooning over unprovens like Lara, Lomachenko, Rigondeaux, or even Canelo until Mayweather exposed that premature praise. for the record: Lara has been exposed and sent to the back of the line; Lomachenko will NEVER get past the likes of Mares, Gonzalez, Garcia, or even Salido; and Rigondeaux? the jury’s still out but thus far he’s only been able to prove that he’s better than Donaire who is barely better than Darchinyan. two years from now, i don’t expect a single one of these fighters to be serious contenders for any major title. Not-A-One.Posted July 24, 2014 10:55 am
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
FACT: Paulie Maignaggi said the fight could’ve gone either way and one of his co-commentators agreed with him. Stop crying and whining about the fight already you pansy a$$ cream puff!
It was a close fight and NOT a robbery! In a recent poll of over 5,500 hardcore boxing fans, 75% scored it 115-113 or 114-114. The majority had Canelo winning the fight. That tells me that anyone who scored it 9 rounds to 3 for Lara doesn’t know his own a$$ from a hole in the ground. Get past it already and move on because Lara is NOT getting a rematch. He stunk up the arena with his track-star style and doesn’t deserve a rematch. The REALest talk on the block.Posted July 24, 2014 9:57 am
Tark, the judges are NOT scientists and neither are you we all KNOW they get it wrong sometimes but the COMMON thought on this bout is that it was CLOSE and apparently Alvarez aggression meant more to the judges…Moral to the story Lara LOST and this is not going down in the books as some sort of GREAT robbery…. Its OVER Lara can complain till hell freezes over, it simply does not matter anymore.Posted July 24, 2014 9:34 am
This is NOT worth debating further, Canelo makes WAY more against Cotto… If SMARTER people thought there was big $$$$ in a rematch they would be trying to sell it… Canelo vs Floyd did RECORD revenue and where is the rematch??? There is NOT one because there is NOT. A compelling reason and NO public buzz after the first fight…You are NOT better at promoting than the folk at GBP or you would be in the biz, they are moving on from Lara who turned off some fans by sliding along those ropes all night most importantly they were Canelo fans because Lara has too few to be a star on his own..Posted July 24, 2014 3:12 am
soda pop.., You’re a mental case.. You’re completely brain dead and think your opinion is the only one out there.
Showtime expert analysts: Paulie Maignaggi and Steve Farhood, both had Lara winning.. That’s because he DID win.
You’re allowed to use the ring for footwork when you box. Whether you move forward or back, in or out, or circle left or right… that’s all up to you… The only requirement is that you land more and sharper punches than your opponent.Posted July 24, 2014 1:44 am
I know what sells and what doesn’t sell…
Controversy sells… This was a highly controversial decision and has won Lara many worldwide fans for his boxing skills.. He battered Canelo into his 2nd defeat if the scorecards were correct — which obviously they were not…
were the hell you get this non sense, do you have the brain of a gold fish?how in the world do you think a man can win a prize fight by consistantly moving backwards?what?just jab your way to victory.get out of here with you silly comedic analysis.if i said it once ill say it again, as in the lara vs paul williams fight and lara vs canelo you should of learned one thing..FIGHTERS LIKE LARA AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU THAT SUPPORT THAT STYLE ARENT WELCOMED IN LAS VEGAS, BOARDWALK HALL OR ANY WHERE IN THE CIVILIZED WORLD.Posted July 24, 2014 1:00 am
Canelo…..Canelo young man,…..leave Lara in the dust choking. Go on to Chavez or Cotto. Look forward and not in the rear view mirror. Lara is spun out in the ditch, so leave him there and go on. Cotto or Chavez or another middleweight. Move on tough Boy, move on.Posted July 23, 2014 11:33 pm
Rematches work for matches that AREN’T exciting.
Gene Tunney got a record million dollar payday for running around the ring and out-boxing Jack Dempsey in front of 104,000 spectators – in their 1927 rematch.
Strangely enough… their first fight was a monotonous, boring affair and not competitive at all… It was panned by sports writers – but their rematch pulled much more money than the first fight, a record gate of 2.65 million dollars – a record that stood for over 50 years.
The funny thing is, Dempsey never drew close to that much with anyone but Tunney… It was the contrast in styles that made the fight – boxer vs puncher like Canelo vs Lara. These 2 should learn English like The Klitschkos, Kovalev, Pacquiao, and Golovkin… Lomachenko is learning English because he knows it will help him a lot down the road.
If Lara vs Canelo II was fought for the World Title—and promoted right—I believe the attendance and gate would amaze everyone to death… It’s just a rematch that works.Posted July 23, 2014 9:40 pm
Personally I think rematches should be reserved for 1.) very exciting bouts 2.) upset of a champ by underdog 3.) extreme controversy NOT a close bout or 55/45 scenario… This would encourage fighters to leave it all in the ring instead of thinking that a second chance awaits if they fall short.. B side fighters who save something for a rainy day in close fights deserve to lose especially on PPV…Posted July 23, 2014 9:36 pm
Sredmond- “…..Lara NEVER got a rematch against Williams and that was an egregious robbery where judges were suspended, he never rematched Molina….”
-AGREE-Posted July 23, 2014 9:34 pm
Tark, the public could care less about Lara’s “title” from a marketing standpoint it meant NOTHING in the first bout and would mean LESS in a second fight…Lara and Canelo produced NO fireworks only hardcore fans are crazed over disputed decisions in dud fights….Lara never got a rematch against Williams and that was an egregious robbery where judges were suspended, he never rematched Molina and he is NOT getting a rematch with Canelo based off that fight… Golden Boy, Canelo and most others know that this matchup is not gonna reap serious interest after a fight where right or wrong ALOT of fans called Lara “A runner” it’s OVER he’s not facing Canelo again..Posted July 23, 2014 9:25 pm
That FAKE Hecdog sounds black. Must be Public Enemy or AKA Datruth ass HurtzzzPosted July 23, 2014 9:18 pm
FAKE Hecdog below. Troll obvioulsy. pay no attention PEEJ.Posted July 23, 2014 9:16 pm
I <3 Canelo!!!!!!Posted July 23, 2014 9:00 pm
Rematch for what? Lara couldnt do enough other than talking and not deliver. Lara was calling out Canelo and saying how Canelo was ducking him and that Canelo needs to fight him and beat him. Now Canelo has given Lara the chance and what does Lara do in the fight…..run. Now Lara is crying like a b*tch. Go fight GGG firts Lara. Beat him then talk rematch. But Lara fans want Canelo to fight GGG, wonder why? No faith in Lara beating GGG?Posted July 23, 2014 8:49 pm
PEEJ, boxing purists would love to see Lara. He’s an excellent boxer that can beat anyone in his division. No one wants to fight him because they see a difficult fight to win. Lara beat Canelo fair and square when scoring the fight correctly regardless if you wanted Lara to throw more punches. Canelo didn’t throw many punches either, but Lara dominated in every facet of the sport. Oscar’s lame excuse of no one is wanting a rematch is pure nonsense because he knows full well his cash cow didn’t win and would get beaten worse in a second fight. Make that fight in a neutral site with non Nevada judges and Lara wins easily. There are plenty of boxing fans that would love to see Lara. Canelo best deal with his arrest warrant in Mexico for beating up a fighter 40 pounds below him his weight class just because he was talking to his girlfriend? The warrant has been issued, so he better deal with it. The law is Mexico doesn’t play around.Posted July 23, 2014 7:41 pm
would that be mexican.Posted July 23, 2014 7:24 pm
Also has nothing to do about speaking English. Canelo can’t speak it and he sells, Ruslan can’t speak it and he sells. There have been plenty of fighters that didn’t speak english and still could sell. Lara speaks the same language as many people in America.Posted July 23, 2014 5:17 pm
You do not know what sells and what doesn’t sell. Nobody wants to see Lara plain and simple.Posted July 23, 2014 5:15 pm
I know what sells and what doesn’t sell…
Controversy sells… This was a highly controversial decision and has won Lara many worldwide fans for his boxing skills.. He battered Canelo into his 2nd defeat if the scorecards were correct — which obviously they were not.. Lara actually beat Canelo up worse than Floyd did because he’s a better puncher. Canelo sported those shades for a week.
It was not a title fight — which kept the PPV numbers down… If Lara took a quick course in English, and took his case to the media he could reach a lot of sympathetic fans… He needs to defend his title against the best challenger.
People know he has the goods to beat Canelo and Canelo deserves a title shot… Obviously Lara is the 154lb World Champion — and Saul said he wants to stay at 154.
This fight needs to happen.Posted July 23, 2014 4:19 pm
Tark is a GOON he thinks the the first fight doing a few hundred thousand buys is gonna be exceeded by a rematch by OVER 1.5million buys… The man has moved into the latter stages of dementia now..Posted July 23, 2014 3:56 pm
Tark, you are RETARDED and you really don’t deserve the attention that you are getting… Canelo vs Floyd part II would NOT do 2 million because the bout was an anticlimax… Lara vs Canelo II might do 300k buys and we have no numbers for the first bout…. The ONLY way 80k people are coming to see that fight is it was FREE on Cinco De Mayo… Where is all the buzz and fanfare? it does NOT exist there is NO rivalry of note… Erislandy Lara is AGAIN a guy well respected and known amongst the SMALL hardcore boxing set… The mainstream is gonna remember him as “That Guy” Canelo fought….Its OVER if there was that much $$$$$$$ on the table you can believe the bout would be made… You really think his CRAP fight would exceed Lewis vs Tyson, and Holyfield vs Tyson? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! NO ONE gives a DAMN if they fight again EXCEPT Ronnie Shields and Lara who needs the payday you fool…Posted July 23, 2014 3:54 pm
You are wrong. No way would Canelo vs Lara sell out any stadium. And if by some crazy way it did, it would simply be full of Canelo fans. And that would just mainly state that Canelo could fight anybody and do that. Heck Oscar used to be able to do the same thing.Posted July 23, 2014 3:44 pm
You guys don’t know anything about boxing promotion… Canelo vs Lara was a highly controversial decision and massive dispute that’s still raging on Twitter and social media..
You could put the Canelo vs Lara rematch into a football stadium the size of Wembley — and pack seats with as many asses as crammed in to see Froch vs Groves II.
Plus you would get 2MM eyeballs for PPV. The rematch makes perfect sense.
When I said Floyd-Canelo would break all revenue records people didn’t believe me.Posted July 23, 2014 3:40 pm
“How did Willie Pep win a round without throwing a punch if you need to outpunch someone?”
Because his opponent didn’t land a punch either.. So Pep won on defense and ring generalship… since his opponent missed punches and Pep didn’t.
It was an experiment, against a very poor boxer, to see if Pep could win a round without throwing a punch.
It wasn’t the most exciting round in fistic history. Pep had many opportunities to score — but kept feinting, moving, ducking and tying his opponent up for 3 minutes.Posted July 23, 2014 3:27 pm
Pep won without throwing a punch because the judges were impressed by his ability to slip punches. Lara ran away fro punches – big difference. Lara was more concerned about making Canello Look foolish than fighting him . He did not earn nor deserve the win.Posted July 23, 2014 3:06 pm
Manny is a wash at this point. And only his loyal ass tards cry for a fight with Floyd at this point. How does a man go from a fly weight climb 8 divisions and gain speed and power? There is not a trainer or training regimate in the world that can do this never in the history of the sport has any boxer done this. Manny was a average Joe at lightweight he moves up and becomes a wrecking ball? Something is foul about this then Manny refused drug testing for the biggest fight of his career made excuses and tried to dictate when he could be tested? And since the whole PED issue came up he is not the same fighter who was destroying junior middleweights. Manny is the biggest fraud in boxing now he fights in China where he can use all the PEDS he wants to his heart is content and he dont have to pay U.S. Taxes problem is he will remain broke and no big fights in his future.Posted July 23, 2014 2:34 pm
@Tark, you’re either a desolutional twat or you don’t know ANY thing about boxing. How the f@$?! do you compare Froch/Groves with this fight!? Groves was there to fight both times! He got a rematch cuz it made sen$e and people begged for it. What kept Lara on his bike, was the hellacious body work Canelo laid on him. No body wants to see this $hit again …..Posted July 23, 2014 1:36 pm
Lara vs Canelo was close and part of the reason it was close was because Erislandy did not wanna press his advantages in speed and technical ability… He was too reliant on staying out of punching range and apparently did not hear the crowd booing… He did not need to be in a barnburner with Canelo which would have been very dangerous but he needed to push the young Mexican back.. Even Mayweather who is naturally smaller than Lara pushed Alvarez back on several occasions with his quick forward offense…Lara did not go in with the mindset of having a starmaking performance and that is part of his demise! Guys have launched careers by looking outstanding on the big stage and going for it… He (Lara) fought like he was the favorite and the crowd was there to see him… Marquez finally learned he was NOT getting any close decisions against Pacquiao and FLATTENED him…Lara is VERY talented but at times he does employ an amateur mindset in the ring…Posted July 23, 2014 10:16 am
If you área swinging at air al night. You área not controliing the ringPosted July 23, 2014 6:38 am
How did Willie Pep win a round without throwing a punch if you need to outpunch someone though?Posted July 23, 2014 5:14 am
Aggression and ring generalship aren’t accomplishing anything if you’re being out-punched, out-boxed, and out-defended… Therefore they’re not working effectivelya for you.Posted July 23, 2014 3:33 am
You can work that way to score the punches, but it isn`t scoring the effective aggression defence and ring generalship through any other means that the scoring of punches.
I quite simply have a mental dial I move in time with the action.
In a large sense I would just be scoring punches, with a premium on the cleaner connections, the effect, powerpunches and so forth.
But all the while in between the dial will be subtly moving back and forth based on what I am perceiving as effective aggression and ring generalship.
So for me personally, and I don`t say everyone has to agree, then lets say boxer A is coming forward, cutting off the ring, feinting, throwing but not landing, and boxer B is backing off, and can`t find the timing or distance to get their own shots off, they are in a very defensive mode…..then I am seeing that there is some effectiveness in boxer A’s aggression since he has closed out boxer B’s output entirely, and I`d tend to see him as the general, if boxer B can never actually get set, he isn`t controlling the ground.
Now say it goes like that for 2.50 of the round and boxer B lands a clean jab, which A responds to with a partially blocked cuffing shot.
I`m still scoring the round to boxer A based on the 2.50 of effective aggression, and ring generalship.
This ISN`T to say I applaud mindlessly walking forward, but it is to highlight that the guy going backwards isn`t necessarily in control because their footwork looks pretty.
Lara vs Canelo was close, arguable and I don`t cry robbery either way on that one. Lara boxed more effectively to my mind overall, but he had to be cognisant of the fact it is a professional ring and he is in with the house fighter.
He made it easy for them to rob him.Posted July 23, 2014 3:14 am
te tumbo you didn’t pay attention during the fight… Lara was beating the crap out of Canelo, who’s face was beaten up… Lara out-punched Canelo by the official stats — and the stats counted WAY too many Canelo shots as landing.
You’re in the alternative universe because Lara won that fight.. Canelo was beaten up.. outboxed.. outsped.. out-punched.. and out-maneuvered.
If you’re the better and faster boxer, with the better reach and the more masterful boxing skills, it only makes sense to use the 400 square footage of the ring to create space for your rangier and sharper punches…
When Lara moved inside it gave Canelo the advantage.. But he only did that to show Canelo couldn’t hurt him.
But like I said, punches to the back, low blows, punches on the arms, and missed punches don’t score.Posted July 23, 2014 1:20 am
Agree, make it happen.Posted July 22, 2014 11:48 pm
TARK, you’re daft. you are so far in F’n orbit with your analysis of the Canelo v. Lara bout that i’m getting Marvel-comic flashbacks reading your posts that describe things occurring in some alternative universe or dimension. otherwise, what Lara dumped v. Canelo was not boxing. it was blatant and calculating $elf-pre$ervation. i can only wonder at why you keep describing it as some display of “masterful” boxing(?). it was Freitas v. Corralles NOT Winky v. Mosley v. Trinidad. ThaT was a masterful display of boxing-punching skills, talent, and experience. can you tell the difference?Posted July 22, 2014 10:48 pm
Bananaman.., I don’t score a fight based on who’s face looks worse.. If that were the case Duran would have won the 3rd Leonard fight because Leonard’s face was busted up far worse than Duran’s.
I score the fight in real time the way an old trainer taught me.. I hold a pad on my lap and mark it while never looking down.. a dash when the blue corner scores, a slash when the red corner scores.
You use longer or shorter marks and other diviations to record impact, jabs etc. This takes skill, but after 20 or so cards you start getting pretty good at it..
The thing is to make very distinct marks without looking down and have a good quality pen. Many people’s memories are pretty good, but judges disagree all the time. They come up with different counts, and making wrong judgments on power and whether a punch actually landed on fair territory or not.
They don’t have people who’ve never done gymnastics, figure skating, or diving judge those sports.. They use 12 former coaches or athletes who know the sport in-side-out and up-side-down as judges … and then throw out the high an low scores.Posted July 22, 2014 9:24 pm
Manny Pacquiao the Hero
I’ll have to say Camelo won this fight. It was like Fight or Flight and Lara was doing only 30 fighting and the other 70 doing a Flight.Posted July 22, 2014 9:20 pm
Gentlemen, are we still talking about the gift, unjust horrible decision Canelo was given over Lara. The only way to look at the fight is to use the scoring criteria judges should be using in boxing. I re-watched the fight plenty of times even trying to give Canelo rounds, and anyway you cut it, he was dissected and decisively beaten. Clean Punching goes to Lara, Defense goes to Lara, Ring Generalship goes to Lara, punch percentage goes to Lara. Effective aggressiveness does not go to Canelo. He was helpless, desperate and frustrated. Lara easily won 8-9 rounds. If a rematch takes place, Lara knocks him out. Canelo is one dimensional, telegraphs the same punches over and over and has horrible feet. He can’t even cut off the ring. I was mesmerized by how effective and efficient Lara was. A tactical boxing lesson at the highest level if you understand boxing and know how to score a fight without bias. Forget the styles, just look at the criteria for judging a boxing match and you will clearly see total domination by Erislandy Lara.Posted July 22, 2014 8:43 pm
ErisRANldy Lara totally outran Canelo that night. Make no mistake about it.Posted July 22, 2014 8:02 pm
I have a perfect solution to all of this discussion …
We don’t need Alvarez vs. Lara II …
What boxing fans want to see is:
Rigondeaux vs. Lara !!!
Yeah !!! What a fight !!!
Oh wait, some of you guys are worried about the difference in weight.
That is not a problem. Nobody is going to throw a punch !!!
And then both fighters will be so angry that nobody wants to see them fight.Posted July 22, 2014 7:31 pm
The Mad Scientist
Tark why don’t you do yourself a favor and go suck on 3G’s balls on one of his articles since he is fighting this Saturday..take a break from hating on Canelo and move on already, its getting boring..Posted July 22, 2014 7:24 pm
B E A R S
lara vs fraud is about 10 times better than fraud vs a mere con
thAts just obvious as all hellPosted July 22, 2014 6:32 pm
Tark , the crowd was BOOING you need to give it a rest! No one is interested in seeing the bout again.. It’s NOT a tremendous rivalry, Mayweather vs Oscar was a HUGE EVENT but no one was excited about the prospect of a rematch because the first fight was a bit of a dud… It’s over where are all the people swinging from the rafters? Lara failed to entertain or get the “W” no matter what people think… This is OLD business and Canelo goes on while Lara Laments..The fight was not fan friendly and Lara’s translated sound bites are not powerful with the English speaking public after a skilled yet overly cautious performancePosted July 22, 2014 6:14 pm
tark you mean squared circle “sredmond you’re the one with brown clotty blood…“`Posted July 22, 2014 5:55 pm
It a tremendous rivalry… People don’t care about the propaganda that there was no fight… Look at Canelo’s face!!! Then look at Froch’s face after his Groves fights because he wasn’t a beaten up.
Besides… Nothing happened in Ali-Frazier II… But fans still bought the 3rd fight where they were both fatter than pigs and Frazier was washed up.Posted July 22, 2014 5:43 pm
“Lara vs Canelo II would be HUGE… make no mistake about it. Like Froch vs Groves II…” – TARK you’re kidding right? Froch-Groves I was an all action fight with a controversial ending. Canelo-Lara was boriing with Lara running the whole fight. Nobody wants to see that again. If they made the mistake of doing a rematch PPV sales would be less than the first tepid one.Posted July 22, 2014 5:36 pm
sredmond you’re the one with brown clotty blood… You’re a sickie and you look sick too… I’m one of the healthiest men alive and have given blood for 40 years. They won’t even accept your stinky clotted stuff.
Canelo vs Lara II would do much better than the first fight. Because it’s a bitter rivalry and they’re the 2 best Super-Welterweights on the planet.
It’s a natural matchup and contrast of styles… Canelo was badly beaten up so you know there WAS a fight.
Marcos Maidana came out his 1st Floyd fight with a pristine face… Like he just did a shaving commercial for a razor or cream that left him with a baby face.Posted July 22, 2014 5:36 pm
Sredmond.., “First decent uppercut and Erislandy was BLEEDING”
How about the ONLY decent uppercut Canelo threw all night.
Canelo hit Trout with uppercuts all night and couldn’t reach Lara with them.. Those body shots didn’t land except on the arms, low, and on the back.. 95% of them shouldn’t have been scored..
Lara stood in front of Canelo for up to a minute at a time — to show he wasn’t getting hurt or threatened by anything Canelo threw. He let Canelo T-off to zero effect.
But that doesn’t make any sense if you’re the taller, rangier, faster, and more skillful outside boxer. You keep it outside.
Lara’s game was keeping the fight at a distance… Getting shorted for fighting smart isn’t right.. It’s not just.. It’s an excuse … and you don’t fight in a phone booth when you have a 400 square foot ring to maneuver in — and you’re a master boxer with great feet.Posted July 22, 2014 5:25 pm
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing)
TARK: You’re so full of it that your blood is brown. If you really think Lara vs Canelo II would be HUGE, you don’t know anything about pro boxing. Nothing!
Lara already PROVED that he’s chickensh*t by running around the ring all night like a gazelle running for his life from a hungry lion. He he had his shot on the biggest stage in the world and he BLEW IT. So just accept it and shut your h0le already you clueless blowhard.Posted July 22, 2014 5:24 pm
Lara vs Canelo II would be HUGE… make no mistake about it.
Like Froch vs Groves II… It took time to put together but sold 87,000 tickets in a flash. This is the same deal. The 1st fight makes the 2nd fight even BIGGER — because each fighter is angrier and more determined than EVER.
You don’t know how this stuff works… However Canelo may be chickenshlt.Posted July 22, 2014 5:09 pm
Tark, Lara should have known he was gonna have to do some ACTUAL leading of the action and show some aggression… I lost sympathy for Marquez in the 3rd bout where he was technically superior but waited on Pac Man TOO much when Manny is the $$$$$ man… NO ONE is gonna care if Lara is “pissed” he was in a close fight with a kid that people have anointed the next PPV star… He shoulda stepped it up some and bashed Canelos face it… BUT he didn’t!!!! He wanted to leave it in the hands of the judges while he was sliding around the ring for LONG stretches NOW he is NOT getting a rematch anytime soon because the bout would be an economic and stylistic BOMB… He missed his shot despite being accurate and elusive…He was the B sidePosted July 22, 2014 4:54 pm
The Boxing Game Needs Vada for all fights.Posted July 22, 2014 4:51 pm
Only “Massive Robbery” that Lara was in was against Paul Williams… This was a close bout where his style was not favored by the judges MOST who thought he won only did so by a couple of rounds and in a bout with NO KD’s or serious hurt that’s a recipe for a loss…. Lara did not make his case NOW he will have to lament NOT pushing that little bit harder because he had edges in speed and accuracy but he lacked desire when it counted…Posted July 22, 2014 4:48 pm
Yeah Tark the problem is that EVERY fight does not end in a rematch and despite his skills if Lara stands there looking to engage he offers Canelo chances that he was unwilling to last time… Alvarez has a solid chin by all appearances and it seemed to me that Lara did not like those body shots… First decent uppercut and Erislandy was BLEEDING… Lara would likely do more of the same once he started taking some fire and that’s not to say I think he is a chump but he is NOT a guy who wants to bang with Canelo too often.Posted July 22, 2014 4:46 pm
Given another chance Lara won’t expect to win a fight that’s anywhere “close.”
He’ll pound Canelo into the floor. He’s pissed off and tired of outrageous judging.
Both his losses were massive robberies.Posted July 22, 2014 4:41 pm
Lara had the speed and skill to win the fight, he just simply was moving so much that he let the judges favor Canelos aggression… Lara was clearly faster and more accurate but he refused to accept that against the Champ or a MORE popular boxer you have to make a stronger case… This is NOT something new it has been boxing tradition FOREVER..If the fight ends up close in that situation be prepared to lose if you are the B side guy… #Leaveitallinthering.Posted July 22, 2014 4:35 pm
Unfortunately Lara is just the most recent example of what I’ve said for a very long time.. Cuban fighters are doomed in the Pros because of their amateur Styles.. They’ve done it for soooo long that they just cannot break away from the “I need to score points and not give away points” Olympic Style mentality.. There was no need for Lara to back away so often.. he was tagging Canelo, all night long who would freeze when hit by Lara and instead of Lara capitalizing and throwing 6 – 7 shot Combos he’d back off after 2 or 3 very good shots and start to back peddle fearing he’d give away points if he stayed in the pocket??? They are programmed to fight this way.. it’s not their fault but they just cannot switch off that Amateur style because of the years being programmed by the Cuban system… It’s happened with all Cuban fighters.. sad but true.Posted July 22, 2014 4:16 pm
Bears, its FUNNY how you BASHED Lara’s style and called him “a runner” yet NOW you want to elevate him as a Champ at 154 and get him a Mayweather shot… This is why its CLEAR you don’t understand how this sport works… When Cotto had a belt at 154 Mayweather took him, when Canelo unified that belt Mayweather took him, Lara having a belt at the weight is a technicality because he LOST at that while fighting in the division to a guy that proved to be an easy night for Mayweather…. Lara is unsellable as a Mayweather opponent there were NOT even fireworks where you could play the excitement factor you IDIOT….Posted July 22, 2014 4:15 pm
Bears, where are all the other posters aside from Tark who is demoralized because Lara did not get the nod clamoring for a Mayweather vs Lara fight? There are NONE the public does NOT care about Lara at this point… He is a hardcore fans fighter at this point and I doubt he gets mainstream traction anytime soon despite his skills.. LOSING to a guy that Floyd EASILY blanked deems him ineligible to box Floyd you PUTZ….Posted July 22, 2014 4:07 pm
“Fastest runner I’ve ever seen” usain bolts comments after the fight.Posted July 22, 2014 4:06 pm
Lara needs to avenge his loss to Molina and settle d contraversial draw loss to vanes.Posted July 22, 2014 4:04 pm
Bears, you are seriously a WORTHLESS poster Mayweather cannot fight Canelo Alvarez leftovers at this point in his career.. Showtime would NEVER approve this fight even if it was in Mayweathers line of sight… A fighter who just LOST in a fight that MANY consider BORING has NO shot at fighting Floyd at this stage of his career… So GTFOH with your stupid matchups like Lara and Algieri these are fights that simply don’t deserve to happen..Posted July 22, 2014 4:03 pm
I wouldn’t watch this fight again even if it was free. No controversy, Lara ran for 3/4 of the fight! Lara had his chance and blew it. Get in line Lara, cuz you aren’t getting $hitPosted July 22, 2014 3:54 pm
The Mad Scientist
Against Lara, Trout, Andrade…we already seen Cotto lose to one of those namesPosted July 22, 2014 3:40 pm
The Mad Scientist
People always bash Canelo saying he only looks good against fighters who come forward or just stand there..this are the exact type of fighters Mayweather, Pacquiao and Cotto look good against as well..I would like to see how they (Cotto/May/Pac)Posted July 22, 2014 3:39 pm
B E A R S
i dont get why sredmond is attempting to dismiss lara as though he would not match up well and likely beAt mayweather.
oh that must be why he is continually repeating himself about lara and pretending the OTHER 154 pound champ cant fight mayweather
what a dumba$$Posted July 22, 2014 3:30 pm
The Mad Scientist
Cotto is gonna have to defend his MW title against Canelo at a minimum catch weight of 155lbs..when Canelo wins he’ll go on fighting the best at 160lbs and the best at 154lbs who are willing to step up to MW..Posted July 22, 2014 3:12 pm
im gunna go masterbate.. when i cum back i want to read NEW comments about my boyfriend Canelo.. wish me luck ;)Posted July 22, 2014 3:04 pm
brza da originator
Lara n gennady were both outstanding amatuers so why r they so differant as pros . Because lara hates bein in a fire fight has mediocre power n a suspect chin . All things u can mask in the amatuer game .Wheras gennady is very comfortable in violent exchanges ( calmness personified whenever the powerful curtis stevens tried to exchange ) he has one punch ko power with either hand n hes an iron chin.Posted July 22, 2014 2:53 pm
Tark, NO ONE cares about Lara’s title… Lara is about to be fighting for less money and recognition whereas Alvarez is still a PPV fighter and one of the most sought after by the big dogs… If Alvarez cared a lick about Lara’s title then he would have made 154 and fought for it… There is no rematch happening and there is no strong interest in one…Posted July 22, 2014 2:33 pm
As long as Canelo is kept from Ballooning up to 172+lbs fight night and he agree’s to random drug testing it should be a done deal.. providing Cotto doesn’t get a Mayweather or Paquiao rematch.. Then Canelo has to sit on the sidelines and fight 140lb’ers.. LOLPosted July 22, 2014 2:31 pm
mad scientist – I do believe we are definitely getting closer to a Canelo vs Cotto fight at 154lbs 160 Weight Gain limit fight night.. It’ll be fun..Posted July 22, 2014 2:29 pm
The Mad Scientist
C’mon Enema, be honest for a minute and tell us how you really feel..LolPosted July 22, 2014 1:50 pm
The Mad Scientist
As long as Cotto won the fight it was no problem for his fans that Martinez was the bigger man.. no excuses why he can’t get in the ring with Canelo next,, unless ofcourse Junito’s fanboys are scared for their boy to take a beating at the hands of the next mexican star in boxing..LolPosted July 22, 2014 1:49 pm
Why doesn’t Canelo finally man up and take on GGG? a fighter his true Size? who isn’t worn, shot, smaller or just a bum.. It’s time for Canelo to take on someone his true size, he can’t continue to hide under Delahoyas skirt..Posted July 22, 2014 1:35 pm
It’s hard to believe that Delahoyas GoldenFraude would be able to find 10 more shot broken smaller bums to spoon feed Canelo but atleast with his next pick Clottey, we know he’s definitley started looking for them.. LOLPosted July 22, 2014 1:33 pm
Canelo deserves a rematch even though he lost… The fight left the World Super-Welterweight Championship in Lara’s gifted hands… just where it was before the fight.
Let’s put the title on the line — CHICKENSHlT catch-weight freak.Posted July 22, 2014 1:29 pm
Lara wants another big payday which he doesn’t deserve. no re_runs.Posted July 22, 2014 1:12 pm
What’s funny to me was the last Froch-Groves fight… That was the hottest fight in the Super-Middleweight Division in 20 years..
A fight between a super hittable sucky kid who never beat an accomplished fighter — and a twice beaten almost equally punchable oldster who lacks great boxing skills, speed, or finesse.
That fight worked.. Not just in the UK.. EVERYBODY was talking about that fight.. And where does that leave Ward??? Nowhere.Posted July 22, 2014 12:33 pm
brza da originator
Te tumbo Look at ggg in the amatuers against several guys who became pro world champions n look at them run into the corners again n againPosted July 22, 2014 12:27 pm
Golovkin has been defending his Middleweight Championship against the best fighters who are willing to face him for a long, long time.. compared to Kovalev who is equally avoided — but only going into his 3rd title defense.. They can only keep going.
Ward is begging for an opponent. There’s nobody in his division to fight.
Rigondeaux lucked out… Donaire believed he could beat anybody with only 11 fights… Now Rigondeaux is having a HARDER TIME THAN EVER getting appropriate opponents into a boxing ring…
Sod Kokietgym MY ASS!!! That’s NOT a fight Rigo needs.
Lara lucked out and got the Canelo fight.. Erislandy should have realized he needed to KO Canelo — or beat him so badly Canelo’s own mother wouldn’t give him the fight.. He wasn’t ready to give Canelo a severe enough beating.
Boxing isn’t fair — because LIFE isn’t fair.Posted July 22, 2014 12:12 pm
Te Tumbo, Tark used to call Mayweather “The GOAT” now suddenly after OVER 21 World Championship fights over 18 years and in 5 weight classes its Mayweather that “needs to prove something”…. I see Tark sign off on the flavor of the month DAILY on this site ie Lara, Lomanchenko, Porter, Golovkin, Kovalev or Thurman BUT Mayweather of course suddenly just has something to prove even though he was a P4P fighter beginning about what 13-14 years ago? See the GROSS inconsistency in the thinking of these twin dolts (Tark and Bears) is striking… They are 100% sold on GGG because he smashed C level fighters but skeptical of Mayweather dispatching HOF, World Championship and Multi-weight Champs… Dudes are bizarrePosted July 22, 2014 11:58 am
why the HELL would anybody want to watch a rematch? screw lara I’d rather watch something else.Posted July 22, 2014 11:51 am
“holy sh!t” TARK and BEARS. still no concrete responses. only additional swooning over GGG’s untested potential. Btw, Mayweather was tested v Castillo, DLH, Judah, and Mosley. all had their moments v. Floyd, but “Money” simply adapts and proceeds to outsmart his way to another win. Hatton, Guerrero, Canelo, Cotto, etc., Etc., ETC., were not able to challenge or test Floyd. he’s simply Tested and PROVEN to be that Great.Posted July 22, 2014 11:48 am
I think that the whole “GGG is not getting the fights he deserves thing” is just more of the reality of boxing where people feel entitled… By the time Mayweather fought Oscar he was P4P #1 in the world, I am not saying that fighters have to attain that lofty status to get a shot but the idea that simply calling guys out or saying “I am avoided” is a ploy to build his profile based on KO’s over C level opposition.. He is not the first guy to have to wait for his turn at the table and if he is that good he will deliver when it comes but until then discussing chasing Mayweather at 154 a guy who regularly campaigns at 147 is corny… Meanwhile you were about to face Chavez Jr at 168… Give it a rest and win your next fight…Posted July 22, 2014 11:03 am
Kirkland is a catcher and GGG punches very hard and Kirkland takes clean shots. GGG is a much better all around fighter. Kirkland does stand a punchers chance but that”s about all.Posted July 22, 2014 11:03 am
“I find it funny when 3G fans say he cuts off the ring better than anybody in the game yet they don’t want nothing to do with Andre Ward..Lol”
Abel Sanchez, trainer of GGG, has recently said, again, that GGG is willing to move up to 168 to fight Ward or down to 154 to fight Canelo or anyone else at that weight, but that right now GGG wants to clean out the middleweight division.
Let’s be real. You don’t see Ward clamoring to drop to 160 to fight any middleweights and at present you don’t see Canelo or many jr. middleweight anxious to jump to 160. Abel and GGG are not avoiding anyone. GGG is simply too much risk for the reward so getting the big fights is hard for him. Plus, there are a number of other factors that prevent GGG from getting fights he wants or deserves. There’s so much more to boxing than just calling out a fighter and getting a fight.Posted July 22, 2014 10:24 am
Won’t happen. Too risky and Canelo can make much more elsewhere. Where else was Floyd going to make money? Floyd doesn’t take fights because the guy deserves it. Don’t fool yourself.Posted July 22, 2014 10:15 am
Lara is history….move on young man move on. Chavez or Cotto.Posted July 22, 2014 10:13 am
Mad Scientist, he cuts off the ring against WHO is my question? Ishida? Adama, Stevens? not exactly the top of the food chain that he is putting in check.Posted July 22, 2014 9:40 am
The Mad Scientist
I find it funny when 3G fans say he cuts off the ring better than anybody in the game yet they don’t want nothing to do with Andre Ward..LolPosted July 22, 2014 9:36 am
Bears, Kirkland stopped Angulo when NO ONE had out toughed him and beat his azz like that… Golovkin at 160 beating this VERY shopworn version of Angulo is not gonna impress anyone… He is pretty much a spent force having been bashed by Kirkland, Lara and Canelo with wars in between…Posted July 22, 2014 9:23 am
Golovkin is an unproven fighter beyond a certain level we have seen that he can consistently stop C level fighters but beyond that his TRUE upside is unknown… This is a guy still fighting 4x per year because he is in the ring with boxers who cannot push him, because they are either has beens or never were’s… I think Canelo is a very good young fighter but he did not dominate Lara, Trout or Mayweather (lost clearly) because these are very talented boxers a cut above and OLD Shane Mosley, or puffed up Josesito Lopez and Matthew Hatton… To his credit Alvarez is building up a NICE body of World Class experience at this EARLY stage of his career (chronologically) whereas Golovkin is in his early 30’s still banging out scrubs with is trainer saying “Everyone ducks him” GGG might prove to be the real deal but like Sergio Martinez he will have to fight his way to the top and may have to get out of his comfort zone to do it.Posted July 22, 2014 9:21 am
Why are Puerto Ricans really racists towards Mexicans when they look like black Mexicans themselves? White boy observation here. This is not a boxing forum anymore but one full of blackxican bigots.Posted July 22, 2014 9:18 am
brza da originator
Ggg showed brilliance as an amatuer, regularly schooling guys who would become top pros r pro world champions . But I hear ur sceptisism a great amatuer don t necessarily make a great pro right ? Well it does when u hit like a mule wit either hand n have an iron chinPosted July 22, 2014 9:10 am
B E A R S
3g reminds u of lopez!!!!???
i dont even know what awesome boxer puncher we could compare 3g to at the moment. dude is UNIQUE.
lopez though LOL thats beyond lowball and your phukn A right after u say he might flop u come back and say he might be what is said he is.
wheres fraud mayweathers vulnerability to greatness innhis fraud matchups? his “creating” and “overcoming” which makes u hug his nuts so hard? or is this just a standard you are applying to 3g te tumbo?Posted July 22, 2014 3:36 am
B E A R S
ishida reaps a kirkland scalp then 3g reaps ishida scalp and te tumbo wants to act like there is no credit.
ishida has been stopped once and QUICK!!Posted July 22, 2014 3:23 am
te tumbo.., “What are Golovkin’s defining moments of resilience?” … Well… for Kirkland it was beating the shlt out of Angulo after suffering a devastating defeat at the hands of Ishida… That was pretty resilient.
For Golovkin…you should only talk about defining moments of brilliance not resilience … Ishida was one… He finished Matthew Macklin with the other hand.
Brutal one punch finishes with either hand… Does Rigondeaux put anyone out with his right hand???Posted July 22, 2014 3:18 am
B E A R S
holy sh!t te tumbo u are actually trying to talk up kirkland over 3g!!
GTFO dude. ishida victim and battered by perro. perro would be dominated as bad or worse by 3g. people are not ducking kirklands and angulos of the world.
kirlands and angulos of the world get their a$$ beat by bada$$/chingon boxer punchers like 3g, kovalev, and canelo
3g and kovalev strikes can be utterly devAstating. love these 3 boxer punchers.
as if 3g needs to show vulnerability to the angulos ofthe world then rise above to be validated. thats phukn retarded dudePosted July 22, 2014 3:17 am
Tark says, “HELL NO YOU HAVEN’T!!!” and he’s correct. he’s forgotten that after Ishida poked his way to an upset KO over Kirkland he followed-up by . . . (???) . . . That’s-It. Kirkland comes back, is decked by Angulo, recovers, and rumbles his way to his own KO win. this is followed by Kirkland being soundly defeated by Molina until Anne Wolfe demanded that he gorilla-rush this “Mfr”, which he does, resulting in a bullsh*t stoppage that nonetheless exposed the urgency in Molina’s corner: they couldn’t wait for the bell to toll before stepping into the ring to revive their boy. what are Golovkin’s defining moments of resilience? stop the spouting about imaginary scenarios that have yet to actually occur. otherwise, None = UNproven.Posted July 22, 2014 2:58 am
te tumbo says.., “At the moment, i’ve seen Kirkland overcome (and create) more adversity than Golovkin.”
HELL NO YOU HAVEN’T!!!
Kirkland certainly beat the crap out of a fresher Angulo than Canelo fought — and dispatched him faster than Canelo could.
HOWEVER… when Kirkland fought a real fighter like Nobuhiro Ishida he was KO’d in the FIRST ROUND.
That triumph earned Ishida a shot at the great Golovkin — where he was BRUTALLY smashed out early by one (1) thunderous right hand.. No surprise either.. Gennady frequently flattens people with one shot from either hand.Posted July 22, 2014 2:29 am
Camelo deserves to avenge his loss against Lara.Posted July 22, 2014 2:00 am
First thing iss first Maywether is not doing it because it was the right thing to do he is doing it because he has no one to fight that will bring him money so, stop saying he is doing the right thing as a boxing fan I see no conrtoversy he beat him On the oher hand no one that likes bixing will fork out Money for a rematch and Lara has himself to blame he talked like if he was going to knock out Canelo and he resorted to running. The only contraversy was the wide score card but you can not award a fight to a fighter that decides to run without throwing punches. You sir with all due respect should put your feeling on the table when writting.Posted July 22, 2014 1:58 am
the way everyone talks about Golovkin now, reminds me of how everyone once talked about –No(?)– inSisted was true about Juan Lopez. i wouldn’t be surprised if Golovkin met a similar fate. it’s more common than uncommon. i also wouldn’t be shocked if he lived up to his promise, but as of right now all i’ve seen is potential, which results in . . . potential. otherwise, somebody please direct me to the evidence of Golovkin’s established greatness(?). who did he hit? who hit him back? how and why was he able to prevail every time v. an equal opponent? at the moment, i’ve seen Kirkland overcome (and create) more adversity than Golovkin.Posted July 22, 2014 1:47 am
brza da originator
@mad scientist but ggg was one of the best amatuers of all time who has amatuer victories over future pro world champions . But whats that U say , a great amatuer does nt always mean great pro . It does when u got an iron chin n hit like a mule wit both handsPosted July 22, 2014 12:40 am
The Mad Scientist
Tark don’t think much about Canelo but thinks the world of Lomachenko and 3G who have ….?????? GTFOH you hater!Posted July 21, 2014 11:18 pm
Do we really want to see a coward run around the ring. Had Lara stopped to fight, I would be for a rematch. But he blew it by running and no fighting.Posted July 21, 2014 10:44 pm
Canelo deserves a chance to fight for the World Championship at 154.
if you think lara won this fight why even watch pro boxing, why not just stick to watching amatures.if you think tallying up points with jabs is the way to winning a prize fight you must be sniffing that shynola boy.Posted July 21, 2014 10:31 pm
The Oracle of Delphi….
who in boxing hasnt got gift decision?paqiou/marquez…mayweather/castillo 1, cotto/clottey???.i know you dont think he beat a healthy sergio martinez do you?cotto is a very small middleweight and even smalll jr middle weight, size will be to big a factor not to mention the miles he has.my prediction, canelo by late stoppage assuming cotto doesnt run to much.i respect yours thou as a could be wrong..i hope they make it.ps, there not gifts if the fights are close and all his fights were close, no domination.Posted July 21, 2014 10:27 pm
The Mad Scientist
Someone let me know when Cotto’s fans grow balls and start clamoring for a fight against Canelo..no other fight has more upside for Junito than that one..what are rican fans so afraid of..Posted July 21, 2014 10:27 pm
lets put an example if a human need to fight vs a tiger to win, witch style he needs to performs. tiger style or human…Posted July 21, 2014 10:26 pm
Canelo deserves a chance to fight for the World Championship at 154.
He wants to stay at 154 — so fight Lara for the title this time.
Of course he’ll get his ass kicked again. Canelo was beaten up.Posted July 21, 2014 10:21 pm
who really knows about boxing is the indicate to paste a comment on this chat .Posted July 21, 2014 10:20 pm
Johnny The Pro
Lara needs to learn this is a business. Entertainment business. He needs to learn what Floyd learned. Nobody wants to see Lara run run run. He is good enough to stand and exchange with anyone. He fought like a pussy and lost. Change that style son and things will change.Posted July 21, 2014 10:05 pm
Lara had his shot let some of the other top fighters in that class get their chance a a big money fight. Lara earned the right to a rematch but AFTER other fighter get their chance.Posted July 21, 2014 8:53 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Canelo has a thick neck and a good punch, just solid, nothing special really, more hype than anything else. Cotto is world class, moves well, punches hard, decent speed, great left hook, intelligent. IMO these two are not in the same league and Cotto will beat Canelo easy. Don’t matter how they performed against Trout. Canelo got a lot of close (gift) decisions…Posted July 21, 2014 8:24 pm
really?you actually think lara will try something different other than what hes been doing since the amatures…please.first time shame on them, second time would be shame on me.Posted July 21, 2014 8:23 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
and what exactley do you base this on?surely not the man handling trout put on cotto.Posted July 21, 2014 8:19 pm
te tumbo, My little hot tamale dont worry we wont send you back. We need a few or your kind here, who else going to cut the lawn amigo? It’s Ok tuff little guy all of your 5 feet 5 inches of you will find a little woman one day. It sucks being short when you always got to look up to argue with anyone. But if you stand on milk crates we can see eye to eye (almost).Posted July 21, 2014 8:06 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Cotto is so much better than cinnamon…but agree Canelo vs Chavez Jr would be a great fight…..Posted July 21, 2014 8:05 pm
the “PUTO” is the one wishing that i was a bigger man. what’s up foolio? you wanna be talking that high-power talk, you need to represent or simply STFU . . . “OMG!?! somebody killed Kenny!”Posted July 21, 2014 7:57 pm
Canelo Vs Chavez Jr. and I got Jr. by KO.Posted July 21, 2014 7:54 pm
I doubt Cotto beats Canelo only because of Canelo’s size. Cotto is a little guy and older. Canelo vs GGG and Ginger will see stars.Posted July 21, 2014 7:52 pm
te tumbo I see you still mad at the world, must be that little man syndrome. Don’t be a puto and relax hombre.Posted July 21, 2014 7:50 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
cotto beats canelo!Posted July 21, 2014 7:47 pm
Canelo Vs GGG, Quillin or Cotto. Chances are Cotto will be picked because Cotto’s age and size.Posted July 21, 2014 7:46 pm
“Are you still mad at the world?” Hell Yes. “did you take my advise from last time and took a few hits from the bong?” when did you invent bong-hits? “I was locked up with a few of your peeps and they were not mad little guys like you” that’s an easily verified claim. where were you at?of course, i now expect you to disappear without a trace, once again. Alrato.Posted July 21, 2014 7:45 pm
The Mad Scientist
Canelo is trying to do the right thing and get Cotto in the ring sooner rather than later..this is what the fight fans really want except for ricans..Posted July 21, 2014 7:34 pm
Lara vs Usain Bolt, make it happen.Posted July 21, 2014 7:28 pm
te tumbo, how you doing little guy? I havent been here in a while but I do remember some names from last time. Are you still mad at the world? or did you take my advise from last time and took a few hits from the bong? I was locked up with a few of your peeps and they were not mad little guys like you.Posted July 21, 2014 7:04 pm
Somebody named Tark wrote the following
“The rematch is a must because Lara took Canelo to school and outboxed him 9 rounds to 3..It was one of the worst robberies I’ve ever seen in my life and I was a professional trainer for decades. I’m still a highly paid consultant for several young pro fighters, so know exactly what I talking about. All the promoters, managers and fighters I talk to in the boxing industry say that Lara won. If you think Canelo won you’re either a Mexican or obviously don’t know anything about the sweet science.”
Tark … I don’t know who or what you are — but whatever you do for a living, it doesn’t involve math. The math says that this is a stupid fight. The math says that PPV buys for a rematch will suck. The math says that Lara should stop running or he will end up like Rigondeaux head butting guys on Telemundo.
Tark … it doesn’t matter what you are your supposed expert friends think, the judges thought it was a close fight. It was not a wipeout, there were no knockdowns, and other than Lara getting hurt and cut by an uppercut — REPEAT LARA GETTING HURT AND CUT BY UPPERCUT NOT ALVAREZ — there were really no other significant blow.
Given that it was a close fight — with inarguably a lot of running by Lara whether it was strategic running or not — you cannot possibly believe that Lara vs. Alvarez is a better fight for boxing fans than Lara vs. Cotto … you cannot possibly believe that Lara vs. Alvarez is a better fight for boxing fans than Alvarez vs. Golovkin. And since you have some challenges with math, I won’t even bring up how it would impact the PPV buys and the money Alvarez, Cotto, and or Golovkin would put in there pocket.
In summary, Tark … you may know what goes in the ring but you don’t know what goes in the cash register.Posted July 21, 2014 7:00 pm
in retrospect, Canelo should’ve never agreed to face Lara a first time until HE redeemed a couple of his underwhelming performances v. Molina and Vanes. Btw, the same dumbsh*ts that were condemning Canelo for not agreeing to face Lara in the first place are now butt-hurt that he did and that Lara LOST in shameful (shameless?) fashion.Posted July 21, 2014 6:41 pm
Lara’s performance was the exact opposite of the fiercely-game and effective performance provided by Maidana who engaged Mayweather with punches not empty words followed by a complete lack of fighting spirit and display of $elf-preservation v. Canelo. not only does Lara not deserve a rematch, he shouldn’t be included in a single PPV undercard until he demonstrates that he’s willing to engage and FIGHT opponents for a living. preferably v. Carlos Molina who he’s been ducking for years. otherwise, back to the very end of the line for Lara. his performance was a disgrace to professional boxing and piss in the faces of every true and paying fight-fan.Posted July 21, 2014 6:38 pm
Carnello”s fighting Andre Berto next, whathe a joke Golden boy has become as they protect their golden egg…lolPosted July 21, 2014 6:05 pm
LARA NEEDS TO FIGHT FLOYD
I scored it a 2 point win for Lara, a draw would’ve been much better….but no way did Canelo “win” the fight. A rematch won’t happen though.Posted July 21, 2014 5:49 pm
CANELO SHOULD FIGHT COTTO, GGG
Who EXACTLY is he supposed to be facing next? Canelo has NOT been protected as of late with the guys he has been in with…Trout looked damn good upsetting Cotto and Canelo faced him, Lara was a known difficult out, and Mayweather was simply getting in with a genius and being paid a lot to swim in the deep end… Canelo has a good chin that’s gonna keep him in good stead as he moves forward.Posted July 21, 2014 4:57 pm
Canelo will be protected by ODLH after that scare, thats why they looking into Clottey. Next they’ll look into that slime bag margabricko. One eye cheeto Vs Ginger.Posted July 21, 2014 4:50 pm
Canelo lost to Trout, got his Ears boxed off by Mayweather and Lara..Posted July 21, 2014 4:50 pm
Canelo is a fight or two away from just being another Angulo.. another head first plodding Neandethal with limited skillls showing the ill effects from years abusing steriods and PEDs..Posted July 21, 2014 4:49 pm
I don’t see any scenario in the immediate future where Canelo and Lara share the ring again….The Cuban is guaranteed to make most look bad and the fireworks were NOT there for the first bout so its a done deal… Canelo will accept the close nod and search for biggers names to pad his wallet against ie Cotto…Posted July 21, 2014 4:33 pm
Besides, Canelo will be trained to cut off the ring this time around and Lara is going to be trained to throw more combos . Somebody will get it right this time around.Posted July 21, 2014 4:07 pm
That’s ridiculous, Canelo was in with Trout, Lara and Mayweather during 3 of his last 4 fights… that’s a trifecta of boxers who had ONE debatable loss between them and ALL can box…Naturally for PPV purposes they are NOT gonna wanna produce another DUD fight and will require an opponent more likely to fight Canelo outright…. He faced the best guys around at Jr MW, its hard to knock Canelos choices in opponents or deny him the right to look for a more fan friendly dance partner..Posted July 21, 2014 4:05 pm
REMATCH Please, I think Lara and Ginger should do it one more time. I think it will be better fight this time around.Posted July 21, 2014 4:01 pm
Sum people here onn this thread are tryng to protect Carnelo from fighting boxers with pure talent like Lara,Andrade knowing that he stands no chance against at least these guys are beter than the other jmw interms of skill who z kirkland and what z MolinaPosted July 21, 2014 3:55 pm
Unfortunately he didn’t make Canelo look like an amateur, it was Lara that made himself look like an amateurPosted July 21, 2014 3:50 pm
BEARS, you make a good point regarding strategy. Yes, they planned to box and be elusive and hope for a narrow points win. But running without implementing offense is a cynical approach to boxing. It should not be rewarded.Posted July 21, 2014 3:48 pm
Carnelo will never give Lara a rematch coz they wanted nothing to du with him from the first place now wi all know why because judging fro what Lara dd in the ring he made Carnelo look like an amateure from the lower levelPosted July 21, 2014 3:42 pm
B E A R S
fight afficionado- i would not give up on lara. they trained and planned to do that. shields was in on the strategy. i they lost they lost as a team. he implemented his strategy well.
it did not find favor with the judges or me. its not mycup of tea. but we have no constancy in boxing at this time or integrity.
i feel that fraud vs maidana, provo cs algieri, and canelo vs lara show and elucidate that. it is truly the freatest debate in boxing now and i dont hear any of u guys talking about it. dan rapahael actually finally brought it up.
those three bouts show the opposite results winning in seperate instances.
if lara and algieri won maidnanshoukd have won. if fraud and canelo win provo should have been given the blnod against algieriPosted July 21, 2014 3:38 pm
There is no need to fight Lara. There is not enough money in it and the PPV would probably not do that great. Nobody wants to watch Lara run around for 12 rounds. He goes to the end of the line. There are better fighters than Lara for Floyd to fight.Posted July 21, 2014 3:37 pm
Its only silly if you think Lara was boxing effectively. But he was running around the ring. There was no need for that.Posted July 21, 2014 3:36 pm
B E A R S
sredmond is desperately trying to shield fraud from a challenge. sredmond wants a cotto rematch who intheir right mind would want that?
sredmond is deathly frightened someone is gonna soil mayweather.
acting as if mayweather can piggy back off of canelos win over lara and not face lara. controversial win at that
bahahahahahahPosted July 21, 2014 3:25 pm
Trying to sell Lara’s “title” is comical that title has LITTLE value… He was in against the top man at 154, and his ticket to BIGGER paydays and serious notoriety what does he have now? his title and not much interest from the public in his fights meanwhile Alvarez goes forward… Lara is VERY talented and I am sure he could have won but just like in other fights he wants to be overly lackadaisical with the posing and movement… He did not press the action ONCE that night… He left it to the judges and they preferred the aggressor, he will have to live with that..Posted July 21, 2014 3:20 pm
Very disappointed in Lara. I supported him from Day 1. And by that I mean before his pro debut, when he was in Cuba trying to escape so he could have a career. He’s got nice skills and some ppo, but time and again proved he’s a runner at heart. Some guys are just mentally not up to making the sacrifices and taking the risks needed to become a top pro. They may take the risk of facing top comp but once they’re in the ring they won’t apply the aggression needed to actually win. Instead they’ll play it safe and hope for the best.Posted July 21, 2014 3:14 pm
“I would suggest Lara stop running and actually learn how to box.”
Well there’s a silly statement if I ever saw one.Posted July 21, 2014 3:12 pm
To all you guys who think Canelo won the fight:
Try to remember that Lara’s title wasn’t on the line so there was no need for him to take unnecessary risks in his fight with Alvarez. All he had to do was do enough to win and he did that, but he got screwed by the judges.
Meanwhile, Canelo Alvarez managed to agitate about 50 quadtrillion air molecules. Oh. And he hit Lara a few times to boot.Posted July 21, 2014 3:10 pm
Molina should already own a W over Lara. But that is another boring fight because Molina loves to hold. Canelo stated he can make 154. Only reason he didn’t for this fight was because he didn’t care to fight for his title. Lara may still be a titlest but Canelo owns a W over him. It doesn’t matter if Canelo owns a title or not. People will still want to fight him because they feel they can beat him and he brings in lots of money.Posted July 21, 2014 3:08 pm
Lara did not rough up Canelo like Maidana did to Mayweather for the first half of the fight. Including Canelo, Laras last 4 fights have been controversial. If Angulos eye wouldn’t have swollen up , he had a good chance of stopping Lara. No one is avoiding Lara, he has to go to the back of the line,and no he doesn’t deserve a Mayweather fight or a rematch with Canelo. Lara should thank Canelo for letting him be on his PPV, he is not a PPV fighter.Posted July 21, 2014 3:08 pm
I would suggest Lara stop running and actually learn how to box. Running in the ring being 15 feet away from your opponent is ridiculous. There is no need to be that distance away from your opponent.Posted July 21, 2014 3:06 pm
“The right thing for Canelo to do is move on and let Lara fade into obscurity”
That isn’t going to happen. Lara is still the WBA jr. middleweight champion. Canelo is merely a contender as Mayweather snatched all his titles from him. Wait, scratch that. Canelo can’t even make 154 anymore so he’s not even a legit jr. middleweight contender. He’s going to have to move up to the middleweight division–where it gets quite dangerous–or keep buying pounds so he can fight at 155 instead of 154.
Meanwhile, who are the potential legit jr. middleweight opponents for Lara? Mayweather, Andrade, Molina (to my knowledge Molina can’t fight in the U.S. anymore so that bout might never be made), Trout, Martirosyan, the Charlo brothers, and Nelson.
Lara will hardly sink into obscurity. The fight I’d like to see next is Lara/Andrade.Posted July 21, 2014 3:04 pm
I see this argument from both sides. The better decision for Canelo is not to rematch being that Lara would probably beat.Posted July 21, 2014 3:02 pm
The Mad Scientist
Why would anybody wanna see Cotto in pointless rematches against Pacquiao and Mayweather..what are you rican fans so afraid of having your boy step in the ring with Canelo..this is the fight that makes the most sense for JunitoPosted July 21, 2014 2:57 pm
“stupid is as stupid does.”
Then you’d best stop typing now.Posted July 21, 2014 2:55 pm
“As Canelo said, (paraphrasing) let Lara learn to fight and throw some punches, and maybe later.”
It’s not how many punches you throw, it’s how many that connect that counts. Lara threw less punches than Alvarez but connected with more than Alvarez did. Additionally, Canelo hit Lara’s elbows more often than not. He landed very few clean punches. I suggest Canelo learn how to close the distance after he cuts off the ring on an opponent. Then he might land more of his own punches.Posted July 21, 2014 2:46 pm
“As Canelo said, (paraphrasing) let Lara learn to fight and throw some punches, and maybe later.”
It’t not how many you throw, it’s how many that connect that counts. Canelo beat the sh*t out of the air for most of the 12 rounds of that fight. Lara threw less punches than Canelo but landed more than Canelo did.Posted July 21, 2014 2:43 pm
B E A R S
pinche da truth hurts no varlay vega
i dont know if i said that right but im a gringo trying here give me creditPosted July 21, 2014 2:37 pm
B E A R S
sh!t man against your kind u can def put me in with the mexicans
in fact i think i will go eat some mexican food now. with some onions and cilantro and lime maybe eat a chile de arbol on the side cAuse their food is awesome too!
bien dia wayPosted July 21, 2014 2:35 pm
Wow datruth is a real live racist. oh well. Canelo beat Lara. Would be boring to see a rematch. As Canelo said, (paraphrasing) let Lara learn to fight and throw some punches, and maybe later.Posted July 21, 2014 2:35 pm
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the germans? i am of germanic descent i am an aryan. i told u thatPosted July 21, 2014 2:31 pm
There you have it Ladies.. Hispanic vs Latinos.. ROFLM-Latino-AO…Posted July 21, 2014 2:29 pm
Bears – You speak like the typical Classic Hispanic desperately trying to have everyone believe you have no African in you.. acting is if having some African in you makes you a lesser human being.. LOL fkn Retard.. there’s no such thing as the Mexican Race.. Nope.. just a bunch of people mostly muttss trying to now have a shared culture.. The Germans would’ve thrown you into the incinerators as quickly as any jew or black..Posted July 21, 2014 2:27 pm
Nonsense, the Boriquas, Tainos were the most feared Native Indians in Central Americas, Caribean.. 85% of Mexicans are Mutts.. cross breeds..Posted July 21, 2014 2:25 pm
Canelo is not on Cottos Elite League.. he’s proven he’s just another hyped Second tier plodder.. Cotto has no time for Charity work.. Cotto is going to have a Mayweather or Paquiao rematch next.. if Canelo behaves Cotto may let him be on his undercard.. maybe.. LOLPosted July 21, 2014 2:23 pm
B E A R S
the aztecs are considered the greatest indian tribe in the west dude wtf u talking about son?
there are huge chunks of german in argentina and brazil and have no black. again wtf are u talking About?Posted July 21, 2014 2:22 pm
No one kicks more Culito in MMA then Brazilians and no one kicks more Mexican Culito then Puerto Ricans.. LOLPosted July 21, 2014 2:21 pm
B E A R S
i got canelo winning if cotto stops biatching out and fights canelo having turned down 10 mil already. lol!!
if i recall team canelo has made generous offers
would LOVE that fight but cotto is a fake 160 tryingto fight catchweights with 147 pound bradley WTF is up with that??!! garbage!!
plus 3g destroys cotto tooPosted July 21, 2014 2:20 pm
That African Blood flowing through the veins of Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans the only Real Latinos is what gives us our Latino Mojo… We are all very proud of the Spaniard, Taino and African blood line.. Very similar blood line to Brazilians who also have alot of African Blood in them.. Hispanics like Mexicans have the blood of Central American Pygmy native indians (Inca) flowing through their tiny bodies.. 85% of Mexicans are mixed with Pygmy Indians.. it’s what makes them small, round and fat.Posted July 21, 2014 2:18 pm
B E A R S
herrera a bum? did u see him on canelos under card? people think he beat garcia seriously. in garcias puerto rican coming out
herrera had a good fight on canelos undercard
herrera banged with the one of the baddest bangers in boxing provo and was given the nod
bum?!? your just a low life hater dude
herrera is a warrior like many mexicans they got wabos way! something u lack sonPosted July 21, 2014 2:17 pm
Canelo has been exposed several times and this version of Canelo is not ready to step in the Ring with the Puerto Rican Super Star Miguel Cotto.. especially now that he has a Trainer and is healthy.. Canelo is too slow and gets hit way too often to fight a guy like Cotto who will stand and fight and make you pay.. like he did to Sergio Martinez who would also kick Canelos Buttt..Posted July 21, 2014 2:13 pm
B E A R S
cuban rican dominican has a large african component. mexican does not have that. u have astez indians and some western euro. mostly known for aztec idigenous there. most my mexican pals have thise traits.
whats not to love about mexicans and mexico. the whole culture is cool as hell if u ask me. and i have good mexican buddies. your a hater dudePosted July 21, 2014 2:09 pm
The same ppl bashing on Canelo r d same ones defending garcia for making d fight against Herrera. Only d ricans r defending Lara bc Lara doesn’t have any Cuban fans. D ricans don’t even like Lara but they hate Canelo morePosted July 21, 2014 2:09 pm
Herrera was a wild swinging bum who lost.. but at least both guys fought and had Skillss.. Canelo looked like the Classic face first south of the Border plodder.. poor Boxing Skills…Posted July 21, 2014 2:03 pm
Bears – Mexican is not a race it’s a culture.. plenty of Blonde mexicans, Cubans, Ricans, Dominicans etc.. all have Western Europe Roots.. and if you ordered this Piece of sh!t PPV you are Mexican.. LOLPosted July 21, 2014 2:02 pm
B E A R S
herrera beat garcia IN PUERTO RICO
you should stand against that injustice DA TRUTH HURTSPosted July 21, 2014 1:59 pm
B E A R S
i like canelo and im no mexican im white. im not in your criteria. i also ordered canelo vs lara
im strait blonde hair blue eyes and my ancestry is western euro.
viva mexico!Posted July 21, 2014 1:55 pm
The Key to 175+lb Canelo getting his Mojo back is going back to his good old days of fighting 140lb’ers like Josesito Lopez.. that’s where he really shined!!! ROFLMAO… it’s obvious he has no business fighting anyone at or above 154lbs..Posted July 21, 2014 1:50 pm
Honestly after Canelos last few Mega Flop Performances he’ll be lucky to get an undercard shot on a Cotto vs Mayweather or Paquiao MegaPPV Event.. No one other then Mexicans really care about Canelo.. You couldn’t even find a local Wing Joint on the East Coast showing the fight let alone know it was even on??? It was funnyPosted July 21, 2014 1:47 pm
What DelaHoya did vs Tito Trinidad was Run for the Hills, Run for his life.. never stopped to Engage Trinidad or land anything meaningfull on Tito.. that was shameful. Per Fernando Vargas.. what Lara did was take a charging Slow as Mollasses Bull and hit him at will like a true Matador.. making the Bull look like a Plodding Robot..Posted July 21, 2014 1:43 pm
Canelo is a BUMPosted July 21, 2014 1:40 pm
B E A R S
when u say hit and dont be hit your stating the obvious.
implying that somehow means run and fight with a style like laras is the objective of the sport of boxing as a whole your a crackpotPosted July 21, 2014 1:39 pm
Nobody wants to see that fight again…. I don’t see the fight being any different than the first one unless Lara decides to stay in the pocket a little more. Canelo really needs to move to 160 since he couldn’t make 154 in his last two fights smhPosted July 21, 2014 1:35 pm
B E A R S
boxingis about winning. nothing else. all is subjective interpretations concerning what boxing is about. its a fight the aim is to win. “hit and not be hit” is a generic and general fight plan and rarely happens when two world class fighters are fighting
boxing is about winning a FIGHT.Posted July 21, 2014 1:30 pm
Completely agree that Lara’s running was awful and he deserved the loss. If he had stood and engaged for just 30 seconds he would have been hurt and ko’d. But my criticism of Canelo is that he only throws bombs, as his trainer encourages. Lara is a tough guy to do it against, but Canelo needs to throw combinations in rhythm and not try to decapitate his opponent with every punch.Posted July 21, 2014 1:29 pm
And because Canelo did so well they’re now going to have him fight Joshua Clottey??? ROFLMAO.. 147lb Joshua Clottey?? OH GOD!!! Delahoya surely is back on the Crack Pipe.. Clottey at 147lb was relevant 8 years ago..Posted July 21, 2014 1:26 pm
Jim Rich – Why would Lara need to learn how to Box?? How do you think Canelos face got so busted up, Bruised and Swollen? and How did his Eye get cut leading to a Monster Black Eye.. which is why Canelo is still Wearing Shades over a week later?? LOL Boxing is the ART of hitting and not getting hit.. Lara did exactly that for most of the fight…Posted July 21, 2014 1:23 pm
Lara looked class at times but your not going to get decisions in close fights with that style. He should have been throwing punches till the final bell instead of walking round with his hands in air hate it when fighters do that. Close fight but the right man won I had it 2 rounds for CaneloPosted July 21, 2014 1:21 pm
Everyone is backing Lara only Koolaid Drinking Canelo Groupies are backing him.. even the Sho talking Heads had Lara easily winning at the end of the fight… and they too were shocked at the Win for Canelo??? especially that 117 – 111 from the Mexican Judge.Posted July 21, 2014 1:20 pm
When lara learns to fight he will get a rematch, canelo couldn’ have said it any better. Lara the boston marathon is comming up, since you like running you should sign up. Lara is a joke, I don’t care to see him after his last few fights.Posted July 21, 2014 1:12 pm
B E A R S
rigo is already coming out talking about changing his fights to excitement and guaranteeing it. pro boxing has demanded change from rigo and lara essentially!! rigo is attempting to conform! will lara?!
time will tell. apparently cuban boxig was not well received in the pros
bahahahahahahaha!Posted July 21, 2014 1:07 pm
B E A R S
there is obviously no need for an immediate rematch. maybe later on down the road. publicly nobody is backing lara and his case just a fee haters and diehard lara fans around here.
its not like canelo owes lara anything. was the judge with the wide score for canelo even disciplined?! there is nothing pointing to a rematch here anytime soon.
lara may get treated like rigo too so lara better watch it. lolPosted July 21, 2014 1:05 pm
Hecdog sorry but you are not scoring with out bias. Marquez clearly beat Pac in the 3rd fight and was robbed.Posted July 21, 2014 1:00 pm
Wow, Canelo looks really F’d up in that Photo, still wearing Sun Glasses.. All Bruised up and swollen.. and after watching the Replay of the fight I can see why so many are outraged Canelo got the win.. especially that 117 – 111 from the Mexican Judge..Posted July 21, 2014 12:51 pm
Big Ham, I think Lara could have won the bout personally he had a nice edge in speed down the middle but he would have had to open himself to risk if he stood there too often.. He wanted to pot shot and move, he was effective but FAR too economical and the excess movement has a history of turning off judges and fans…He remained unaware of his position in the pecking order at the B side fighter who needed to step it up…He let Alvarez win based on aggression and body punching… He is a bit of a fool in my eyesPosted July 21, 2014 12:45 pm
You know what gets me the most. Calling running ring general ship. If a guy gets buzzed by the first hard shot he takes, then lowers his punch count significantly and disengages from contact over and over and is on his bicycle it is now called ring generalship. Lara did not even have the decency to throw a high volume of jabs that fall 2 feet short like Corey Spinks and Devon Alexander do, at least those guys make an effort to trick fans and judges. All that tough talk and this mother F*&ker runs for 12 rounds and does’nt throw punches? Geez. And then tough talk once the fight was over. I never want to see this guy get a fight unless it is a rematch with Carlos Molina whom he robbed.Posted July 21, 2014 12:44 pm
SREDMOND, i think if he took more chances it would have went worse for him. He looked like a guy that did not want to get hit. I don’t think he has a chin at all. He did not have the comfortable look that winning slick boxers like pernell whitaker and Floyd Mayweather have. He had a scared look to him. I think the guy has a fragile chin and he know’s it. Obviously they knew beforehand that he needed to throw more punches. They talked about how bad Canelo’s stamina is and how they would step it up in the second half. Where was the step up ?
Great slick boxers usually have underrated chins and toughness. Pernell was tough as nails. Floyd, look at all the shots he took from Maidaina who is 15lbs heavier. Look at Ali. That is why i am down on Lara now, he fought like a coward. The boxing purists should not support him.Posted July 21, 2014 12:37 pm
I saw the fight for the first time this saturday. Absolutely no rematch. Lara fought like a coward and has only himself to blame for the loss. He did virtually no damage. Even by the numbers i would pick Canelo here is the power punch stats. 88 / 232 for Canelo 52 / 140 for Lara. Out of the 232 thrown, the ones that missed oftentimes hit chest, elbows, forearms, and do still do damage but are not counted as a clean punch. You are still being aggressive. Canelo landed the more damaging punches. In a numerical fight that saw a better percentage that Ruslan vs Algeiri in which most people thoght Ruslan won. Ronnie Shields begged Lara to take control and he never did, he fought like a guy that had just got hurt and was trying to recover. No confidence, no ring control. The fight was a stroll for Canelo. It was close but no way did Lara win. And if anyone see’s my posts over the years here they know i am not a huge Canelo supporter.Posted July 21, 2014 12:33 pm
Lara had a shot, he is a tough, skilled and tricky opponent that went in there and moved all night long… Canelo got the nod in a close fight… Why rematch him? People booed the action at times and there is little cache in doing a second bout at this point… Erislandy is a talented guy but if he wants to be a star he will have to take more chances because he cannot promote fights thru an interpreter..Posted July 21, 2014 12:25 pm
Interesting way of seeing things. Would that logic apply to Floyd vs Maidana? Floyd says Maidana fights dirty 9Maodana’s style) basedbon what you said he would’ve been within his rights to move on …no rematch right. Find it a bit odd that Oscar was so outraged and wanted a Maidana rematch but quickly dismissed the idea of a Lara rematch. Bottom line, i feel that
Maidana did something to surprise and intrigue, he showed NO respect to Mayweather and attacked like a maniac.. He tied Floyd on one card and the bout was exciting… Lara vs Canelo lacked excitement and Erislandy is NOT a popular fighter with the ability to resell a close somewhat stinker fight he is going to have to continue banging up others that come down the trough at this point… Alvarez is looking at Cotto or another fighter who can make for a more engaging contest…Posted July 21, 2014 12:05 pm
Lara never gave Molina or vanes a rematch. Those were controversial fights. U could argue Molina won their fight. Is he a chicken for not rematching? No bc those are very boring styles for him. Same with Canelo. Lara’s style is too boring. Bring cotto. He’ll show up to fight and not run.Posted July 21, 2014 12:00 pm
Lara’s corner should’ve known better like Dino and others alluded to. Lara was winning and just close the show at the end and i don’t mean go for the KO but at least increase the pressure by staying in a bit longer and landing more. Didn’t they see the Alphoso Gomez fight?! Lara’s style may be frustrating to those who don’t know the sport but this is boxing. Critics can kickstart a new sport lol 2 guys with a leather strap on one wrist thats tied to the opponent that was they are always within punching range and have a free hand to club the other guy. There was also something called so you wanna fight.. people who can box swinging for the fences toe to toe till they gas out…Posted July 21, 2014 11:44 am
Maidana does not deserve a rematch. He fought dirty and was encouraged by his corner to do so. Next time he punches Mayweather below the belt, Mayweather should respond in kind. Maidana will return to Argentina with his balls like mashed potatoes.Posted July 21, 2014 11:13 am
I’ll be surprised if Canelo gives Lara a rematch. Canelo knows he won the decision by the skin of his teeth.Posted July 21, 2014 11:10 am
Maidana deserved a rematch cause he was ther to fight and give d fans a fight. Lara don’t deserve jack. He was there to stink up the joint and not fifth back. Anybody that deserves another chance to rematch is Juanma, dude is always there to fight and not run like Lara. He might not win but man he’s exciting to watch. A mans manPosted July 21, 2014 11:09 am
I don’t think Canelo is just “a power puncher” he can box but he is NOT gifted with fast feet… He is a guy who knows how to throw combo’s and has very good punch variety, guys who move and give him angles are gonna be tough for him but the kid knows how to fight… Lara is exceptionally mobile and very committed to moving the ENTIRE evening… Canelo will not be pitted against a guy like that again in the near future… Marquez has trouble with guys who move ie Bradley, Mayweather and Manny… Not all boxers are fleet of foot and Canelo is one of them…Posted July 21, 2014 11:06 am
No chance of a rematch. Lara was more than they thought he was and gotta out of there with a gift. Canelo needs to stop being a plodding power puncher and learn how to box more. He needs new trainers that can teach him how to cut off the ring and use more angles and counters. This Mexican style of fighting is getting old and predictable. Plow forward flat footed and swing for the fences is exciting if you have one punch KO power but boring if you don’t. Barrera, Morales and Marquez had and have craft to their boxing. They could slip punches, counter and cut off the ring and stay in the pocket with the best of them in their prime. New trainers or start learning your craft. None of the current fighters are all stuck on this “I’m a warrior crap” and take beatings when they don’t have to. It’s a hell of a lot more exciting seeing a fire fight with movement and bombs away in the exchanges from fighters. Getting hit on while you work inside and when you get there the fighter is gone gets old and boring. When you can’t stay in the pocket and exchange toe to toe is boring. When you are reduced to a body puncher because you cant hit the guy in the head is effective but boring. ODH needs to fix his young client or Golden Boy Promotions has no product.Posted July 21, 2014 11:01 am
Octavius Jomar Chatman
He is going to get a rematch….They dodged that bullet and are not about to walk into the lion’s den again risking losing it this time around…..Posted July 21, 2014 11:00 am
Bulls&it, Lara put on a track meet. Nothing more. No rematch.Posted July 21, 2014 9:55 am
Canelo owes Lara NOTHING, if it wasn’t for Canelo he wouldn’t have got the first fight. He did not stick and run, he kept sprinting around the ring, he did not do enough effective fighting to win, case closed. Let him go out, and instead of badmouthing Canelo, beat a couple of top rate fighters, then, and only then, ask for a second fight.Posted July 21, 2014 9:36 am
I really don’t understand these “B side” or less popular boxers thinking they are gonna get close wins or want deference from the judges.. When you are challenging “The Man” you are tasked with TAKING away his title or status.. Blind hardcore fans will argue what they think “should be” instead of what is…Lara is a talented fighter and fundamentally more technically and athletically gifted boxer than Canelo, but it did NOT surprise me in the slightest that his often lackadaisical manner cost him during the bout…This is why I never had issue with the ruling in the Marquez III bout, which I thought could have gone either way… I saw Marquez land some very clean shots but then he was CONSTANTLY waiting for Manny in order to counter and initiate his offense… Some of these guys are simply LOATHE to lead and they are NOT Mayweather who can catch and shoot better than anyone…Lara vs Canelo II would NOT be a PPV worthy bout and these idiot trainers who do NOT tell there progeny to “step it up” are WORTHLESS… Dundee told Leonard “You’re Blowing it Kid” even Freddy Roach has told Manny “to put guys on their azz” and told Provo the SAME thing against Algieri and he was the more popular fighter…Lara reminds me a bit of Josh Clottey, who at one time was one of the TOUGHEST WW fighters in the game, Clottey would often be asked after a close loss “why did you shell up” ??? he would reply “I wanted to take me time and be careful” NO ONE is saying be reckless but as a fighter with no real fanbase, and a language barrier your fists are gonna have to do the talking…Bottomline is Lara is history for now, he is a tough out, with NO fans, and a spoiler style… Not the best combo for mainstream acceptance.Posted July 21, 2014 9:09 am
Lara did not rematch Molina, fact is that Alvarez is a PPV fighter and that bout did not really provide enough entertainment value.. Lara was accurate when he threw but he was on his bike a lot for a B SIDE FIGHTER..The ship has sailed, public interest in Lara is not gonna be higher after that contest… Alvarez will be matched with someone who’s a come forward fighter.. In fairness between Mayweather, Trout and Lara he faced guys with ONE very debate able loss between them, 2 prime southpaws and an ATG… His next bout will be more fan friendly Lara’s not getting a rematch anytime soon..Posted July 21, 2014 8:59 am
Did that really say drop the soap? Funniest thing i’ve read all day. LOLPosted July 21, 2014 8:47 am
He glossed me!
Boxtradamus fantasizing about being Scrogged by Floyd? Go ahead and leave the site for good after that!Posted July 21, 2014 8:23 am
The negative style implored by Lara in the fight was more than enough reason not to reward him with another unmerited payday. He had his chance and instead of making an effort to win, he spend 8 of 12 rounds looking to avoid damage rather than inflict it. If you want to understand why Alvarez earned the decsison, ignore amature hour and read the excellent write up by hall of fame boxing scribe Graham Houston. If that doesn’t convince you, ESBs very own Vivek Wallace (a talented writer despite a slight Mayweather bias) provided a clear and concise summary of what does and doesn’t win boxing matches in last weeks lounge.Posted July 21, 2014 8:20 am
Floyd’s stare and fist makes me want to drop the soap the next time I serve 30 days in jail. ;) Love me some Floyd. I always bet on him.Posted July 21, 2014 8:15 am
Absolutely. We need Mayweather vs. Maidana II … and we need Alvarez vs. Lara II … and we need Pacquiao vs. Marquez 5 … and we need Ali vs. Fraizer 4 … the boxing world must have these rematches.
Oh wait … I am on crack. Wait … now I feel better.
You know what the boxing world really needs … Pacquiao vs. Mayweather. Pacquiao vs. Maidana. Mayweather vs. Bradley. Alvarez vs. Cotto. Alvarez vs. Golovkin.
Who are these idiots who want Alvarez vs. Lara?
Are you really that f*cking stupid that you think this is a must see fight? Must see fights don’t look like Alvarez vs. Lara you stupid morons. Must see fights look like 2+ million PPVs.Posted July 21, 2014 7:39 am
Yes he should!! I had Lara ahead 7-5.Posted July 21, 2014 5:08 am
“The boxing world doesn’t him as having passed the test.”
What a dumb statement. The majority of the boxing world
Gentlemen, no need for vulgarity. These are just my opinions, no harm or disrespect is intended towards any of you. Manny Pacquiao is only a man that admire for all the good things he does in life. yes he’s the greatest pure fighter of all time, but it’s his loyalty and character that stands out in front. His fighting abilities are extraordinary, and i for one recognize that. As far as Canelo Alvarea is concerned, he would stand very little chance of upsetting Manny Pacquiao if they were to fight. Canelo isn’t in Manny’s league, and if you do want to see Manny’s knockout power again, someone please make that fight. Canelo looked lost, confused and couldn’t cope with the masterful boxing skills of Erislandy Lara. Manny Pacquiao is an entirely different animal to deal with. he not only has masterful footwork and lethal power, but he has the ring intelligence to befuddle a one dimensional fighter like Canelo. Manny Pacquao hasn’t dodged anyone ever. He has been loyal to a promoter that has helped build his aura. The aura of a fighter that stands up for people in need. Mayweather could never beat Manny because he could not and would not adapt to the power, speed, style and ferocity manny Pacquiao brings to a fight. Manny is faster, stronger and more athletic than Mayweather could ever be, It’s not a coincidence that Floyd Mayweather has never fought Manny Pacquiao. Manny would dominate him and Floyd knows it. Porter, Thurman, Canelo, Bradley, both Garcia’s, Danny and Mikey and any fighter from 140-160 cannot deal with Manny Pacquiao’s skills. trust me when i say this. The best of Manny Pacquiao is yet to come. Manny is the best!Posted July 21, 2014 2:35 am
Hecog you fcking moron Manny will never fight anyone outside of top rank he cant because of Arum stop your homo drolling on his cock Manny is done his carrer is over he had a nice run on PEDS face it you bioootchPosted July 21, 2014 2:07 am
Soda Pop my friend, the power is still there. Here’s the problem with fans that don’t care for Manny Pacquiao. They first saw the destruction Manny was putting on all those great fighters like Oscar, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito and others. He was pulverizing them to a point that I was afraid he would be arrested.
lmao,this man is a clown…lmao,i think paqio roided up wouldve lost to margarito if they let him use his cement gloves.the real hands of stonePosted July 21, 2014 1:40 am
Rematch? Hell notPosted July 21, 2014 1:31 am
HECDOG, you had Lara winning 8-9 rounds lol are you sure you weren’t watching the Tour De France. Your boxing credibility just went down the toilet I’ll remember you from now on lol. You said you had the sound off you should probably put your glasses on at least.Posted July 21, 2014 1:17 am
hecdog is a “g”…lmao.lol, love this cat.okay back to real talk.what was more clearer…canelo beating lara or paqiou beating marquez in the 3rd fight?Posted July 21, 2014 1:11 am
A rematch? lol who the fuc wants to see Lara run around the ring again for another 12 rounds. I know I don’t, I actually went to the damn fight expecting fireworks an Lara just turned it into a big dud.Posted July 21, 2014 1:05 am
@Hecdog eminem has a song called Stan its about a obessed fan who kills himself, you fit the bill. You are obsessed with Manny its one thing to like or even admire a fighter but you over the top ass clown, You need to seriously seek some help hell even get medicated no one agrees with your views of Pac. Yes he was and they key word is was good but he never will beat great until he beats the best out there and unfortunately he never submitted to the drug testing and he is owned by a sake AKA Arum so he will never reach greatness today he is reduced to fighting bums in China for nothing he will never land big fights because of Arum not wanting him to get KTFO again so he matches him with guy he can beat…Posted July 21, 2014 12:32 am
something a miss!!!Posted July 21, 2014 12:21 am
117-111 is the exact same score one judge had for Canelo vs Mayweather when Canelo did not win a single round. Shows you boxing is fixed and short of a knock out or Lara just totally blowing Canelo away Lara could not win because one judge was already in the pocket. Only thing that saved Mayweather is he beat the crap out of Canelo and the other two judges were not I the pocket and scored the fight correctly. It’s a shame the sport of boxing has come to the state where fighters stick there head I the sand a say things like I just fight who they put in front of me meaning they are too stupid to run there own carrer and promoters run the show where arum fighters can’t fight ODH fighters and both sides have suspect judges.Posted July 21, 2014 12:08 am
Beautiful boxing skills..????
LAUGHABLEPosted July 20, 2014 11:49 pm
Soda Pop my friend, the power is still there. Here’s the problem with fans that don’t care for Manny Pacquiao. They first saw the destruction Manny was putting on all those great fighters like Oscar, Barrera, Marquez, Cotto, Hatton, Margarito and others. He was pulverizing them to a point that I was afraid he would be arrested. Manny decided to challenge himself and move up to the bigger and stronger guys, but the world saw that this man was a natural born fighter and puncher. He carried his power with him. Fast forward to today. Manny gets beat by Angel Hereida ( Ped Supplier to the USA OLympic track and Field team), Ped Man Marquez and the special nutritional mix that had Marquez looking like a gorilla with acne. Still Manny comes back from that loss and dominates Rios, another former champion. Manny haters jump all over him because he didnt knock him out instead of appreciating the man’s artistic, beautiful boxing skills he used. Manny then destroys another undefeated champion in one one of the most dominate victories ever performed, and guess what? Manny haters jump all over him again because he didn’t knock Bradley out. Manny Pacquiao is held to a higher standard than most because he is the ONLY 8 division boxing champion in history. Some people like to see a good man down, but it won’t happen. Manny’s next fight will end up in a KO, and I’ll wait to see what the naysayers will come up with. Mayweather kept putting up more demands because he never wanted the fight. The man himself failed 3 tests, and by all accounts covered them up. Hmm…? Manny has taken all the tests in his last 2 fights and welcomes testing in all his fights. And Floyd is aware of this, but as i said, the man is afraid.Posted July 20, 2014 11:47 pm
brza da originator
When u give up the center and run around the ring n throw significantly weaker punches than ur opponent u damn sure better outland ur opponent by 10 punches GTFOHPosted July 20, 2014 11:45 pm
brza da originator
If lara showed half the heart of his countryman gamboa who left it all in the ring against crawford ( superior fighter to canelo ) he would nt need a rematch. Please saul don t give this disrespectful scrub a rematchPosted July 20, 2014 11:41 pm
nooo wayy i would buy this fight. screw laras boring runningPosted July 20, 2014 11:39 pm
this mans a clown…lol.ped?and paqiou refused the test against mayweather.explain this hecdog, paqiou was known for his power right?the last thing to go from a fighter is his power right?where has his power gone?Posted July 20, 2014 11:26 pm
Soda Pop my friend, I have scored each and every fight Manny Pacquiao has been in without bias, and that’s the honest truth. Manny beat Marquez fair and square in fight number 1 and was robbed. No question about that. Manny won fight 2 easily, and fight three was even easier. Manny was also beating up Marquez until the famous Ped Punch landed, but Mr. Acne is another story.Posted July 20, 2014 11:23 pm
Terrible fight. Why do it again? The fight was and close and boring. Lara had his shot had he ended up not going for it enough. Period. Next.Posted July 20, 2014 11:22 pm
Soda Pop my friend, those were different fights albeit with some similarities. I’ve tried giving Canelo the benefit of the doubt, but it doesn’t work. Judges can’t score a fight because they like a style. They need to stick by the criteria and not be bias. The 111-117 was uncalled for and left many people wondering. A draw would have been much better off than a Canelo win. I think Canelo is going to be a great fighter one day, but some decisions are all wrong for boxing as this one was IMO. I really hope they fight again, and this isn’t the only horrible decision we’ve seen. I think judges have to be held more accountable for their decision making. Put them all in the post fight press conference and let them answer questions. I’m all for a fair deicison regardles of who wins. Just get it right.Posted July 20, 2014 11:20 pm
why dont you try and turn the volume down on the paqiou bradley 1 fight?dont be afraid you may not what your abouth to see.while your added turn of the volume for all of paqious fight against marquez and tell me what you see, dont be afraid to join the real world.
mute hecdog mute.Posted July 20, 2014 11:13 pm
Soda Pop My friend, I can’t compare Lara to the legend that is Manny Pacquiao. It’s unfair to Lara. Canelo was not effective at all as the aggressor…
this begs the question,how affective was paqiou against bradley in the first fight or against marquez in the 3rd fight?canelo was as ineffective with lara as paqiou was in each of those fights if you score it like that.Posted July 20, 2014 11:04 pm
a rematch? Are you kidding? If I had paid to see that fight I would want my money back.I would rather watch figure skating than watch Lara run around the ring all night.Posted July 20, 2014 11:02 pm
Lara talked all the trash. He wanted to smash Alvarez in the face. He was going to do this and do that, but when the time came, he fissiled instead dazzled. No need for an encore.Posted July 20, 2014 11:00 pm
After watching again most of Canelos body shots were blocked, and it looked like the upper cut, the tape from Canelos gloves scraped Lara eye and caused the cut. Canelo will never truly beat a boxer. He is a bumm.Posted July 20, 2014 11:00 pm
After watching again most of Canelos body shots were blocked, and it looked like the upper cut, the tape from Canelos gloves scraped Lara eye and caused the cut.Posted July 20, 2014 10:58 pm
I had Lara winning 8 out of the first 9 rounds, and that was without bias in any way shape or form. Turn the sound off and use the criteria boxing judges use and you will see the same thing I did. Lara clearly dominated based on boxing criteria.Posted July 20, 2014 10:52 pm
I mean Lara fansPosted July 20, 2014 10:52 pm
Nobody but Canelo fans want to see a rematch. He chose to fight like in the biggest fight of his career and he blew itPosted July 20, 2014 10:52 pm
Soda Pop My friend, I can’t compare Lara to the legend that is Manny Pacquiao. It’s unfair to Lara. Canelo was not effective at all as the aggressor. Forget how many punches each threw because both guys didn’t throw many, but that’s not the criteria for judging a fight. Clean Punching, Effective Aggressiveness, Ring Generalship and Defense are the four areas boxing judges should use to score a fight. Forget what fans would like to see. Canelo fans want his opponent to fight punch for punch and not move. That’s where ring generalship and defense comes in to the scoring of a fight. Don’t criticize Lara’s movement and defense, it’s a smart way to fight an opponent that is strong, and it’s using intelligence. Clean punching was clearly Lara’s edge. Did you not see Canelo’s head whiplash throughout the fight? That was clean punching. Defense isn’t even a question to ask in this fight. Lara more than dominated him. What exactly did canelo do other than land a few body shots only because Lara stopped moving. Lara had total control of the fight and made Canelo look bad. The vast majority of fighter polled said that Lara beat Canelo. Sorry, but that’s the consensus of fighters and fight fans. This is a boxing match not a beer brawl where you stand there and throw wild punches like Canelo was doing. The truth of the matter is Canelo lost and he know it. Let’s see how open Canelo, GBP/Oscar would be in fighting a rematch at a neutral site with someone else choosing the judges. You know the answer. I’m not a Lara fan, but that guy was robbed. There is such a thing as a beautiful boxer using masterful defense and skills to dominate his opponent. Pernell “Sweet Pea” Whitaker did it all the time. This decision was wrong. Now do the right thing and fight Lara again.Posted July 20, 2014 10:51 pm
Why in the world would he rematch Lara?! Canelo won AT LEAST 9 (NINE) rounds clearly!
Lara should go back to Cuba and fight in the amateurs where his style belongs!
Canelo has bigger fish to fry now, he’ll KO Cotto next and then be the first to beat GGG, vamos!Posted July 20, 2014 10:40 pm
Round 7 Canelo upper cut RIPS open Lara eye brow. Next time Knock his azz out Canelo with that nasty upper cut. After Lara felt the Red Power he ran avoiding being Ko’d. Lara eye worse than Canelo eye. Plus Lara bleeding in his mouth. Lara lost, got out bombed by the power punching Red Mexican. Mexican beat Kooban. No rematch at all, go on young man Alvarez to other fights and leave Lara and FM in the dust. Chavez and Cotto are looming in the future. Lara is history.Posted July 20, 2014 10:29 pm
i love eastside boxing, lets all talk crapPosted July 20, 2014 10:19 pm
Canelo knows full well that he was dominated in every facet of boxing….
if your scoring an amature fight yes, if scoring proffesianally then i think you know better.you more than anybody should know that hecdog, if you score like that paqiou should be 0-5 against marquez no?what hecdog, all of a sudden you like the boxer?Posted July 20, 2014 10:15 pm
Canelo knows full well that he was dominated in every facet of boxing. The numbers prove it, the scoring criteria proves it and the vast majority of fans giving Lara the nod proves it. Lara is the champion. Canelo would silence a lot of doubters if he fought Lara again in a NEUTRAL site and with the judges selected by another commission. Lara was robbed of a least a close decision, but he won that fight without question. Oscar/GBP and the judge (Levi) had it in for Lara. 111-117 is ridiculous. I watched this fight numerous times and I saw Lara display beautiful pin point accurate punches, immaculate ring general ship, incredible defense and Canelo swinging like a drunk in a bar. At times, the pro Canelo fans were so quite you could hear crickets. They were stunned and Lara’s dominance. Lara is the champion and won that fight easily. Canelo needs to do the right thing and fight the man again.Posted July 20, 2014 10:01 pm
wanna here some real talk, the judge that scored the fight 117-111 i dont have a problem with, hell they like the aggresser pressin the action i can see that, its jerry roth who scored it 115-113 lara.you gonna tell me that lara did a better job of ouboxing canelo than de la hoya did trinidad?de layoa landed real power shots not just jabs and outlanded him yet he scored it for trinidad who was missing most of his shots.now he gives this fight to lara?de la hoya ran 3 round and this man more than half the fight yet he got roth given him the win?thats the real story.Posted July 20, 2014 9:54 pm
Yes, just like Floyd who has to rematch Maidana to avenge his lose, so should Camelo rematch Lara to avenge his lose.Posted July 20, 2014 9:49 pm
The Oracle of Delphi,
again, this isnt the amatures.he tagged him with what?jabs?what he was doing is what he has been doing his whole career and what there taught to do in the amatures, score points.what this fight shouldve taught you is even going back to the paul wiolliams fight is this, fighters like him and people like you who support this type of fighter is not welcomed in vegas, nor in Boardwalk Hall, Atlantic City nor anywhere in the civalized world.Posted July 20, 2014 9:42 pm
The fight had draw written all over it from the beginning. There’s no sense in downing either fight they both did what they could. The fact that many fans are split on who won, should say it all…. That being said, both fighters would do better facing different opposition, cause that fight wasn’t good enough to warrant a rematch.Posted July 20, 2014 9:27 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Squared-Circle Real Talk (a.k.a. LionKing), Floyd is nothing at 154lbs, he did not defend his title, because he is a pssy and afraid. Another bum….Posted July 20, 2014 9:27 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Soda pop, Lara missed all night long like a bum. What does that have to do with being a pro. Lara tagged him more often with more accuracy. I don’t what else to say….so what he moved around and ran. Others are doing it too and win. Lara won, Canelo lost, the judges gave it to him, that’s boxing..Posted July 20, 2014 9:25 pm
I don’t think Lara did enough to win, but he messed up Canelo’s right eye. His straight left has done that to a few fighters, including Paul Williams, Angulo, and now Canelo.Posted July 20, 2014 9:23 pm
appearantly i do, the judges and i saw it that way and if you didnt learn that by the decision that was handed out than you must have down syndrome…i forgive you, stupid is as stupid does.Posted July 20, 2014 9:15 pm
i want to clear something up, i like lara and think hes a great talent.i even went as far as predicting a win for him against canelo but i was dissapointed in what i saw.i truly thought he would sieze his moment and even thought by all his barking that he was gonna not only win but even possibly by k.o seeing how he felt so avoided.im sure his a good dude but for all his talk one would have thought he knew better than to leave it in the hands of the judges especially fighting that way. i strongly beleive that if mayweather had fought canelo that way he wouldve lost the fight aswell.Posted July 20, 2014 9:12 pm
“lets get this straight.lara fights like an amature and deserve to lose, ”
LOL @ Soda pop. You’re the one who doesn’t know the difference between the amateurs and pros.Posted July 20, 2014 9:05 pm
“Lara is the World Champion at 154.. Canelo earned a title shot with his effort.. So by all means fight Lara.. Only this time you get your ass beaten 3 X worse than the first fight.”
Yep. Lara did what he had to do the first time and he beat Canelo, but he got screwed by the judges. But Canelo doesn’t want a rematch because he doesn’t want to be beaten again.Posted July 20, 2014 9:04 pm
“The difference is that the majority of fans don’t want to pay $60-70 to see a rematch because Lara ran around the ring all night like a chicken, refused to exchange, and turned it into a stinker. He stunk up the entire arena. ”
Well, that’s your opinion. And you wouldn’t know what the majority of fans want because you haven’t talked to a majority of the fans. Lara did NOT run around the ring all night like a chicken, he did exchange–to the tune of 10 more landed blows than Canelo.
And if anyone turned the fight into a stinker it was Canelo who could not close the distance once he cut off the ring. Lara rendered Canelo mostly ineffective. Call it running if you like but Alvarez chased him around the ring all night long and looked like a fool doing so.
Lara won that fight. He got screwed and even Canelo knows that. Go back and watch Canelo and his corner as the scores are announced after the fight–they all looked like a bunch of depressed zombies–quiet, somber, and in doubt. Why? Because they didn’t think he won the fight.
If a rematch doesn’t happen it’s because Canelo knows he lost the first fight and he doesn’t want that to happen again.Posted July 20, 2014 9:01 pm
I love lara but I have to agree with those rounds where he literally circled the ring 3 times without even a jab thrown you just can’t get away with that at this levelPosted July 20, 2014 8:59 pm
lets get this straight.lara fights like an amature and deserve to lose, whoever thinks otherwise dont know the difference between amatures and pros.lara won because he made him miss,really?this isnt the amatures were you jab and move your way to the scorecards, these are the pros.theres a reason he losed, that shuck and jive bobin and weavin dont mean squat if your not landing any telling blows.again, these are the pros and theres a big difference between what lara did and mayweather did against canelo and those who seem to have forgot rewatch the mayweather fight and see for yourselfs what i mean.lara is no mayweather, lara should have learned from mayweathers fight which he clearly didnt,mix you defense with some offense more effectevilly than you will have something, anyone fighting that defensive in a pro boxing fight does not desreve to be a champion.Posted July 20, 2014 8:56 pm
Do the right thing? who is this idiot writer.mayweathers choosing a rematch because hes running out of options and fighters that can generate ppv numbers.canelo owes lara nothing, and for the record if he did fight him again i wouldnt give my hard earned dollars for this to see lara run again.You be the idiot and by that sh**.we pay to be entertained and for excitement, not to see a fukin amature fight.All this fight showed is that lara still fights like an amature and all that jab jab tallying points is supposed to inspire?no wonder him and rigo cant sellout fights, and this writer wants to see a rematch.you idiot, you like these type oif fights?go watch rigandoux moron……Posted July 20, 2014 8:55 pm
Do the right thing? who is this idiot writer.mayweathers choosing a rematch because hes running out of options and fighters that can generate ppv numbers.canelo owes lara nothing, and for the record if he did fight him again i wouldnt give my hard earned dollars for this to see lara run again.You be the idiot and by that sh**.we pay to be entertained and for excitement, not to see a fukin amature fight.All this fight showed is that lara still fights like an amature and all that jab jab tallying points is supposed to inspire?no wonder him and rigo cant sellout fights, and this writer wants to see a rematch.you idiot, you like these type oif fights?go watch rigandoux moron.Posted July 20, 2014 8:54 pm
No he shouldn’t. Terribly boring fight. Canelo should fight Chavez or Cotto.Posted July 20, 2014 8:45 pm
Do the right thing? who is this idiot writer.mayweathers choosing a rematch because hes running out of options and fighters that can generate ppv numbers.canelo owes lara nothing, and for the record if he did fight him again i wouldnt give my hard earned dollars for this to see lara run again.You be the idiot and by that sh**.we pay to be entertained and for excitement, not to see a fukin amature fight.All this fight showed is that lara still fights like an amature and all that jab jab tallying points is supposed to inspire?no wonder him and rigo cant sellout fights, and this writer wants to see a rematch.you idiot, you like these type oif fights?go watch rigandoux moron.Posted July 20, 2014 8:40 pm
Do the right thing? who is this idiot writer.mayweathers choosing a rematch because hes running out of options and fighters that can generate ppv numbers.canelo owes lara nothing, and for the record if he did fight him again i wouldnt give my hard earned dollars for this to see lara run again.You be the idiot and by that sh**.we pay to be entertained and for excitement, not to see a fukin amature fight.All this fight showed is that lara still fights like an amature and all that jab jab tallying points is supposed to inspire?no wonder him and rigo cant sellout fights, and this writer wants to see a rematch.you idiot, you like these type oif fights?go watch rigandoux moron.Posted July 20, 2014 8:38 pm
Lara is the World Champion at 154.. Canelo earned a title shot with his effort.. So by all means fight Lara.. Only this time you get your ass beaten 3 X worse than the first fight.Posted July 20, 2014 8:35 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Just rewatched the fight, Lara CLEARLY won this fight. Canelo was embarrassed. He missed all night long, looked like the bum he is…Posted July 20, 2014 8:34 pm
One more comment: NO ONE will pay to watch Lara versus Canelo again. Not even die-hard Canelo fans, who deserve to see their hero in a more-exciting marquee matchup with someone like Miguel Cotto. PR versus Mexico always sells, and usually the fights live up to the hype. I’m not Mexican or Puerto Rican, but I’ll gladly pay for that fight.Posted July 20, 2014 8:23 pm
The old adage “Styles make fights” needs to be altered for the likes of Lara, whose style makes for track meets. Personally I don’t ever want to watch Lara box again. Canelo versus a revitalized Miguel Cotto would be a great matchup, one destined for fireworks, I think.Posted July 20, 2014 8:20 pm
Canelo needs to fight Kirkland , martinez and cotto..” F” lara that guy took it to far with the running. .Posted July 20, 2014 8:15 pm
Since Sergio is not retiring, perhaps Canelo-Maravilla would be a good matchup at this point. Maravilla has solid technical skills and if he’s as ready as he said he is, he’ll outbox Canelo as he did Chavez Jr. On the other hand, if Maravilla’s body is as shot as many believe, then Canelo shouldn’t have any problems dispatching of him as did Cotto.Posted July 20, 2014 8:07 pm
now thats a headline article. nice.Posted July 20, 2014 8:07 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Actually, if Lara goes for it, like Maravilla did with Williams, he could do it.Posted July 20, 2014 8:03 pm
The Oracle of Delphi
Lara’s name is not Mayweather. He won’t get a decision , he has to knock the fake Mexican out, that is his only chance to win…Posted July 20, 2014 8:01 pm
Lara robbed me of my hard earned money. I will never watch one of his fights again. Would a single person pay money to watch that rematch? My gf asked me why Lara wasn’t fighting. Tell him to be glad he got his $1 million because he’ll never make that kind of money again.Posted July 20, 2014 7:56 pm
Gimme a break. Nobody wants to see that track meet again.Posted July 20, 2014 7:51 pm
Demand for rematches don’t just come from close results – they’re market-driven. That’s why Mayweather is fighting Maidana again despite being him more decisively than Canelo beat Lara – it was a good, entertaining fight with lots of drama. The only drama in the Canelo fight was in calculating the scorecards.
Canelo’s fanbase is very specific about what it will pay for. Lara’s performance will never generate the market demand to make a rematch possible. Lara will be quickly forgotten.Posted July 20, 2014 7:41 pm
I think the writer is correct in this case. Perhaps Lara tweaks his style slightly to be more in the center of the ring. Even though, I felt like Lara won the fight employing the stick and move approach. Canelo doesn’t have the balls to give him a rematch though because it was too close for comfort for he and Golden Boy.Posted July 20, 2014 7:34 pm
A fight with Cotto would generate more money then a rematch with Lara. I think Cotto is a small 154 pounder and Canelo is too strong but, in terms of revenue, Canelo should fight Cotto.Posted July 20, 2014 7:29 pm
CouldaWoulda is Hissybibdee. All he does is focus on other posters rather than have a Boxing point. Go get you a Boxing point.Posted July 20, 2014 7:23 pm
Lara’s corner made the mistake by not telling him to fight hard 10-12, the CHAMPIONSHIP ROUNDS. Did they think they were gonna get the nod in a close fight? against Canelo? in Vegas? that was stupid.Posted July 20, 2014 7:23 pm
hows my amigos doing?Posted July 20, 2014 7:18 pm
fresh out the penPosted July 20, 2014 7:17 pm
im backkkPosted July 20, 2014 7:17 pm
sup yallPosted July 20, 2014 7:17 pm
Lara vs, Canelo was boring as aht. Lara was scared to press the issue and engage so what the point in a rematch. Bring on Cotto or GGG I am tired of guys not fighting each other.Posted July 20, 2014 7:15 pm
If you got rid of Boxtra and his many aliases , SRedmond and his many aliases and BEARS this would be a decent site. Those three must literally make up a quarter of the posts on this site and all three are seriously deranged and or OCD types.Posted July 20, 2014 7:14 pm
The Mad Scientist
The right thing for Canelo to do is move on and let Lara fade into obscurityPosted July 20, 2014 7:13 pm
YES you use the Ring but you also find times to sit down on your punches more. Make the beating harder to ignore.Posted July 20, 2014 7:10 pm
You don’t fight someone bigger and stronger than you man to man you use the ring that’s what he didPosted July 20, 2014 7:09 pm
You need a smart promoter in this Sport. Thats why I will become one… MY eye for talent and MY ability to forecast certain matchups is UNCANNY. I could get Lara the rematch but his current promoter will not……..I’d SAY “Last time you WON by TWO blind MICE decision! !! That’s why THIS time I’m instructing MY man to knock you OUT!!!! IF you at least have one ounce of SMARTS in your brains you had better avoid this rematch for the rest of your LIFE!!”Posted July 20, 2014 7:08 pm
Canelo won’t give Lara a rematch.Posted July 20, 2014 7:03 pm
I only read the title but its a good point, he probably should rematch Lara, would probably be a better rematch cause Lara knows he’ll have to do more than just box his way to a decision.Posted July 20, 2014 7:03 pm
I would SAY “Canelo MAN UP and try to come get you a title at 154!!! I’m SO VICIOUS at 154 that you BEGGED for the Fight to be at 155 you CHUMP!!!!! I DARE you to face ME at 154!!!! I will STOP YOU!!!! You’re a NON CHAMP!!!! Come join the Championship ranks!!!”…….you have to know how to get under a guy’s skin sometimes to get the Fight.Posted July 20, 2014 6:57 pm
brza da originator
F**k lara dude was disrespectful all week n fought like a biatch . Canelo wud put pressure on him from first bell next time . Had respect for ronnie too until he started cryin robbery . Hope saul don t give this guy another payday . Don t compare marcos to lara marcos fought his ass off n let it all in the ringPosted July 20, 2014 6:53 pm
NICE point but it isn’t going to happen. Lara has to remember that he is the CHAMP while Canelo is not. IF I were Lara I would just continue to CHANT that he cannot beat ME at 154. That’s how you get the rematch. Eventually it will erk him enough to Fight you again at 154 this time for the Championship. ….Stop alluding to that Fight and just focus on the FACT that you’re still CHAMP at 154 and Canelo has NO title.Posted July 20, 2014 6:52 pm
Turkish Boxing Fan
Capitalism ruins and exploits everything.. and sweet science of boxing too..Posted July 20, 2014 6:46 pm
This is nothing like Floyd vs Maidana scenario. That fight was one of Floyds most exciting fights, where as Canelo vs Lara wasn’t (even though I still enjoyed it)
Lara fought a very negative fight and IMO was hard to give him later rounds because he looked like he didn’t want to engage. A rematch wouldn’t do good figures either. Lara had his chance to shine, and for the first 3 rounds he did!
The article Writer should remember boxing is an entertainment sport!Posted July 20, 2014 6:38 pm
Lara mastered Canelo and won the fight with ease. He was fully expecting to win because he DID win. He out-landed Canelo 2 to1 in clean effective punches.
Most of the body shots the announcers were calling out for Canelo were either not landing… were landing low… were landing on the back… or were landing on the Lara’s arms… and none of those count… Canelo landed dozens of low punches with only gesture warnings from Robt Byrd; the famous house referee.
It’s too damned bad that Boxing employs judges who are so bad or corrupt — that you know going in you have to damned near shut your opponent out to win a MD in fights like this.
Lara deserves a chance to beat Canelo into submission in a rematch.Posted July 20, 2014 6:36 pm
I just read about the beating that Canelo gave Ulises Solis. What a disappointment.Posted July 20, 2014 6:09 pm
Completely disagree! I am a fan of neither fighter and feel I am objective. I love the sweet science and appreciate true boxing skill. Saw the fight replay and there is simply no way that Lara deserved a victory based on that style of “fighting.” Everything Canelo said after the fight was true – this was a fight not a marathon. Lara was flagrantly running and complaining to the ref about legitimate body shots. Lara simply stunk up the joint and there was no way he won that fight. Canelo should move on and Lara should be relegated to second tier fights.Posted July 20, 2014 5:55 pm
Mr. Sorby, Well written article with which I agree; however, it will take a great deal of pressure to bring about the rematch.
BS,..no rematch!! Canelo, go on to Cotto or Chavez. Lara is history now. Move on young man, move on.Posted July 20, 2014 5:45 pm
No canelo should fight Chavez jr. Or frochPosted July 20, 2014 5:42 pm
why give lara a rematch he’s just gonna run again at least el chino came at floyd jr and tried to win thats why he got the rematch let lara get in line and beat somebody at 154 let him earn his shotPosted July 20, 2014 5:38 pm