the1.., “I say Stiverne would beat Deontay Wilder. He has better skills and a good chin with a heavy shot. Wilder has a big shot also but his skills are still raw”
His skill ARE still raw. So what’s the problem with putting Stiverne vs Wilder together?Posted August 13, 2014 3:11 pm
I’ll tell you what. Wilder may have fought bums but he has some juice in his punch. If he lands a heavy shot flush ANYONE can go. On the other hand, Bermane Stiverne is the most solid i’ve seen outside Klitschko and Haye. Anyone that can beat the hell outta Cris Arreola like he did 2 times and stop him in the second fight is solid! The guy has a tree trunk neck and can take a huge shot, hes fast for his size and punches hard! In my own honest opinion. I say Stiverne would beat Deontay Wilder. He has better skills and a good chin with a heavy shot. Wilder has a big shot also but his skills are still raw even against lacking opposition. However, He has the height advantage and has a chance with a powerful clean shot to end it possibly. Overall, i’ll take the more polished, better skilled Bermane Stiverne to not only win but by Brutal KOPosted August 13, 2014 9:29 am
Lurker you should go and say that to his face…Posted August 12, 2014 6:06 am
YOu can blame Wilder. 7 Years a pro and still a little fag.Posted August 12, 2014 5:34 am
Wilder needs to just go diePosted August 12, 2014 5:33 am
You can’t blame Wilder. He’s not the matchmaker.
If ranked heavyweights don’t want to fight a killer puncher for less than a fortune… Golden Boy has to loosen up the purse strings… They’re so tight they make Arum look like Santa ClausPosted August 12, 2014 1:22 am
Well, I suppose this IS a step up for Wilder. Gavern has a pulse, so it is a step up.Posted August 11, 2014 11:55 pm
This is actually ridiculous. Wilder is the biggest fraud in the sport. Pathetic fight. The biggest hype job in many years.Posted August 11, 2014 11:50 pm
Wilder is actually a terribly poor fighter, with no chin, no balance, no footwork.
It`s painful to watch how inept he is, and really quite the damning indictment of how soft and weak Americans have become that they have to flounce this stick thin baboon around as though he is anything other than a KO waiting to happen the moment he goes in against a lower level Euro guy like Wach, Ustinov, Pulev.Posted August 11, 2014 8:33 pm
There is a SG article on the other boxing website, where they bar and exclude articles that challenge their bias, that’s pathetic.. Here is what they barred: SG is a delusional if he believes what he has written, and he has major problems with reality. This is not a stay busy fight, it is a STAY SAFE fight like the previous 30. Gavern is an over aged, overweight, out of shape, poor fighter that DW fights to pad his record. SG needs to stop putting these pathetic and primitive spins to make DW look like he is a top caliber fighter. He isn’t. He hasn’t fought a top ten contender and when he does the facade will be over and he will be exposed for what he is, a very sheltered, protected, and limited skilled fighter, who will be pathetically humiliated in the ring, and SG exposed as the idiot he is.Posted August 11, 2014 8:12 pm
He’s waiting forever for Stiverne.. This is a stay busy fight.. Contenders used to fight a bum a month waiting for a title shot in the old days.. The fight you always dreamt of is delayed or is having problems??? Stay busy.
When you’re the mandatory challenger, are you going to look for a risky fight?Posted August 11, 2014 5:23 pm
This is the worst joke fight next to Garcia Salka. How this can even be allowed is beyond belief. Wilder will never fight anyone good ever.Posted August 11, 2014 1:48 pm
He could still knock out any HWPosted August 11, 2014 12:58 pm
wilder is a complete and utter fraud.Posted August 11, 2014 11:53 am
I know it’s not the same (Audley has won it a few times!) but Gavern looked OK in Prizefighter last year. Decent short notice fightPosted August 11, 2014 11:37 am
Real fight fans do not watch these big slow useless HW Bums.Posted August 11, 2014 9:31 am
Terrible last few days for HW boxing. It is a circus freak show. Jennings looked very ordinary vs perez. Browne looked terrible and was lucky to get a win. Chisora pulls out last minute then we all get what we have been waiting for. Fury vs a big eastern euro beast “ustinov”. Fury talks more than ever and backs out at the last minute. Then he rematches chisora a man he already beat and totally ducks ustinov who would have been a real threat. Now this crap. Stiverne vs Wilder, NO!!! Wilder vs another bum. Heavyweight boxing, what a joke. They are all protecting their perfect 0s and are taking the bum road to a championship fight with wlad. Cant blame wlad for boring mismatches. The divison is a sham.Posted August 11, 2014 9:28 am
A gym war sparring fight against a decent sparring partner would be better served then this match up.Posted August 11, 2014 9:17 am
logic . . .”Stiverne does not face wilder” so they have a eliminator between Jennings and Perez because of Stiverne. Hello, bad logic. It does not spell right. Wilder did not take the fight so WBC has an eliminator between Jennings and Perez. Better logic. Jennings by logic and mandatory positioning is number one. Wilder gave up his place.Posted August 11, 2014 6:07 am
Stiverne is a Heavyweight Champion… Big fights are coming to him.Posted August 11, 2014 5:31 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Bermane Stiverne where are you? He’s made about two press releases post his big win and hasn’t done anything else???? That guy is ripe for a bad loss sometime coming up. Guys like Stiverne NEED activity their bodies crave it. When you have that squat heavy naturally muscular powerful physique you always flourish with sustained activity. Mike Tyson was always best when fighting at least 6 times per year. Sonny Liston best when fighting multiple times per year and Samuel Peter best when fighting often and regular. Stiverne has few genuine miles on the clock, but I’ve seen him in camp with Sam Peter many times he thrives on activity. At this year he fights once a year or less, when he takes his big shot if he does he could be in for a shockPosted August 11, 2014 3:58 am
@ fake Deontay..,
Laila loves Ali… All his kids do. Most Americans do. When he passes I believe you’ll see a great outpouring of positive feelings from almost everywhere.
Ali was a genuine anti-war hero.. One of the most revered ever.. It takes a lot of guts to go up against your country when it’s wrong. Ali never wavered — and he was loved for that by millions. He was also a very gentle and kind individual, and very personable, with a great sense of humor. He was loyal to his friends and family to a fault, and that’s where a great deal of his money disappeared.
Ali certainly had his faults…maybe more than most, but people who knew him always said he was a great person who loved people. He had a great heart. He really cared about social justice, and put his livelihood on the line for the cause of peace.Posted August 11, 2014 3:36 am
Not the 3rd best… Malik Scott, Sergei Liakhovich, Kelvin Price, Audley Harrison, and a few other beat this guy.Posted August 11, 2014 3:32 am
Since he’s got the Stiverne fight signed I’ll give him a pass this time. But keep in mind Gavern is probably the 3rd best opponent he’s faced in his career. Yes Wilder’s comp has been that thin.Posted August 11, 2014 3:16 am
Even before he took more punches to the head than are good for anyone, I question whether Ali was ever bright enough to come up with a moral position on much of anything. It seems to me that it is entirely possible that his supposed heroic act in refusing induction was the result of a fortuitous concurrence of Black Muslim rhetoric and self-interest.
A hero – not in my book. Just one more opportunist – maybe.Posted August 11, 2014 2:18 am
Wilder…he is Fraud!! Fight nobody of value. ACCHHHH TUI.
Why is wilder not facing stiverne. If stiverne does not want to face wilder he should be stripped of his title. Simple.Posted August 10, 2014 11:24 pm
AAHHHCCGH my ASS
You’re a fraud too… Ivan the fake RussianPosted August 10, 2014 9:17 pm
Ivan the Russian
Why did not Deon sign Ustinov on short notice, he would have taken the fight and Wilder would have taken a loss. Wilder is a schmuck and fights nobody who is real challenger. Stiverne & Wladimir both Knock Out Deon. Haye knock out Deon and so do Fury and Vitali. AAHHHCCGH, he is a fraud!!!!Posted August 10, 2014 9:08 pm
I am wondering thw his management team know something we do not know after 32 fights no contenders, maybe one fring contenderPosted August 10, 2014 7:49 pm
DETONAYPosted August 10, 2014 5:32 pm
Bo Bo Olson
Dangerous man Mr. Gavern….wouldn’t want him to be trained for more than a minute a round or actually find a tall sparing partner. The guy could get lucky like he did 11 times before.Posted August 10, 2014 4:36 pm
I Wilder fights no one ranked and gets a Heavyweight title shot, so be it.
It just makes his KO loss all the more amusing.
Will it be a hard KO? I predict Bambi on ice scrambling for the ropes!Posted August 10, 2014 4:16 pm
This is a joke 30 and o no big name fighters up till now wat the hell is going on here u have fighters thats 19 -0 getting tittle shots im ready to walkaqay from boxing were never gonna see the best fight the best only once or twice a will us boxing fans get get rip off by those greedy promotersPosted August 10, 2014 3:32 pm
Barney.., Ali was immature when he held those beliefs. So was Malcolm X. They both changed their minds later on.
There were discriminatory laws, police brutality, segregation, hatred of blacks, and political hate speech when Ali was a young man.. People who are hated, hate back.. The story of the black ants being with black ants – and red ants being with red ants – made sense to Ali.
It took Ali and Malcolm X a while to realize there were a lot of white people of good will — who treated everyone with kindness and generosity and were trying to change the laws.
When you’re excluded, segregated, and shut off as a young person, relevant facts escape you. You begin to think all white people are alike.
When Malcolm X had his epiphany the Black Muslims turned on him.
Ali admitted he was wrong, that every race has good people, and that segregation was wrong.Posted August 10, 2014 3:22 pm
This bum spends more time on the canvas than off it.Posted August 10, 2014 2:57 pm
Journeyman, 37 yo Jason Gavern (25-16-4, 11 KOs): “I know my job, I know my position. My job is to get him rounds”.
Deontay Wilder, world champion challenger.
Gimme a break…Posted August 10, 2014 2:51 pm
Pulеv-Wlаdimir-fight of thе уеаrPosted August 10, 2014 2:34 pm
Barney go kill yourself. No point of entertaining your nonsense this is a boxing site. Wilder needs to fight someone with a f’n heartbeat.Posted August 10, 2014 2:15 pm
And the surprise is what? Wilder has built his record and career on at best b- level fighters. Here is another one. Don’t know how good, if at all, Wilder is because he hasn’t fought anyone. Carefully crafted to get a title shot. I don’t object to wilder personally, I object to the method of advancement. Ffs, if you are so good then bloody fight someone breathing.Posted August 10, 2014 2:01 pm
it is absurd…
DW needs more than some rounds from overweight, out of shape, older fighters…. He needs to fight a top contender…. He should not be allowed to fight for the HW championship, not ever having fought a top 10 contender…. it is absurdPosted August 10, 2014 1:44 pm
keep the hw circus rolling.Posted August 10, 2014 1:21 pm
Are you a member of Parliament.Posted August 10, 2014 1:16 pm
Appalling, indeed.Posted August 10, 2014 11:53 am
The racism on this site is appaling. Doesn’t anyone monitor the posts. Btw, racism is a white thing.Posted August 10, 2014 11:51 am
Muhammad Ali on integration:
“We who follow the teachings of Elijah Muhammad (leader of the Nation of Islam) don’t want to be forced to integrate. Integration is wrong. We don’t want to live with the white man”
Muhammad Ali on intermarriage:
“No intelligent black man or black woman in his or her right black mind wants white boys and white girls coming to their homes to marry their black sons and daughters.”
Muhammad Ali on the need for a separate black homeland:
“You got the white racists who believe in separation such as I believe: One day the black people of America must go to self, clean up self, help self, do for self. I recognize [the white racists].”
“Black and white are disagreeable in peace, they can’t get along together… Worked 400 years, 16 hours a day from sun up to sun down, without a payday, that we should now be repaid. Don’t give us nuttn and give us or repay us: You got 50 states and we make up 10% of the population then divide up 10% of the land… Now that we’re no longer slaves and we can’t get along just let me go and live by myself.”Posted August 10, 2014 9:55 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Also remember the sanitisation of Ali’s image is part of how history works. In retrospect we see it more appropriate to focus on the ling term positive effects of Ali’s life than the divisive shorter term effect of the nation of Islam. It’s why Malcolm X remains a figure of liberalism and intellectualism even though for years he associated with a cause not remembered at all for such qualities.Posted August 10, 2014 9:33 am
Bill Patrice Jones
@Barney. Ali is not responsible for all of the brutality of the Nation of Islam. He was not a decision maker in that organisation, he was their public figure and was largely deluded and brainwashed by Elijah Muhammad who truly was a bad man. Malcolm X also at one point in his life made the mistake of believing in their cause. Your talking about someone like Ali joining the nation of Islam out of context. He was angry and confused as a young man. How could he not be? He won an olympic Gold and still couldn’t buy a hamburger in a restaurant in his hometown if run by whites. Hatred for the white race is not indicative of a necessarily hateful person if within the context of a racist system. The important point is that once he could Ali, like Malcolm X, saw the light and left the Nation of Islam. He would have liked to leave it earlier but it was like an association with gangsters you can’t just leave at will once indoctrinated, and Malcolm X was shot for it. Muhammad Ali did more for the races with his wider image than harm with his nation of Islam association. This was the first entertainment or sports public figure who was black and who broke any conformist stereotype of the good or the bad black man, of the uncle Tom the white man’s black man or the Sonny Liston, as in the Violent Native Son. For black America so see someone of their color get up and speak the way he did was immeasurable in terms of how much self belief and hope it gave them. He wasn’t just a fighter. Believe me black Christians would never have been so loving of a black Muslim, with reservations, had they not all felt the power of his influence. Africa, Asia, Europe. The whole world was touched by Ali. So as much as I abhor the Nation of Islam I don’t, and can’t, hold Ali responsible for their violence. He didn’t fully know what he was getting into before he was in too deep leaving was not an easy thing to do. For Muhammad to be defined by some of the terrible terms and remarks he made about race divide, can’t detract from the profound depth of his humanity in the wider sense of his life.Posted August 10, 2014 9:30 am
B.P. Jones: Not bad commentary Mr. Jones altho you have succeeded in sugar coating Ali and his life much like the rest of the main stream that have dealt with the subject matter before, which to be honest, is not necessarily groundbreaking or earthshaking nor especially veracious. The victims and family of those murdered during the Zebra mass murders will not necessarily be of one opinion with you on this when you recall that Ali was a member in good standing with the Nation of Islam during the time the horror of the killings was being carried out by this sick group. You mention hate. Did Ali hate? It could be said that there are boxers that have better served mankind with their behavior than Mr. Ali in or out of the box ring. A brassy, aggressive, and humiliating individual that divided rather than united people with his activities making him as notorious as he was famous. His legacy has been sanitized beyond recognition, for many of those that lived those times, Ali will never be the legendary hero that he is made to appear to be today.Posted August 10, 2014 8:29 am
The worse thin is that the talent in the division is finally out there. They are just not being tested at all. They are not facing each other and are wanting to challenge every taxi driver under the sun. It is a joke. Wlad is standing there all by himself. There should be a mandatory body that forces they giant cry babies to face each other. Imaging chisora vs fury, browne vs ustinov the winner fights the winner of stiverne vs wilder and jennings vs takem/or glazkov and the best man gets to fight wlad. That is what should be happening at least every six months. Chisora will cancel his fight with fury again, fury will face a bum to keep busy. Stiverne is thanks to don king not going near wilder. Freaks at the circus.Posted August 10, 2014 7:34 am
Terrible last few days for HW boxing. It is a circus freak show. Jennings looked very ordinary vs perez. Browne looked terrible and was lucky to get a win. Chisora pulls out last minute then we all get what we have been waiting for. Fury vs a big eastern euro beast “ustinov”. Fury talks more than ever and backs out at the last minute. Then he rematches chisora a man he already beat and totally ducks ustinov who would have been a real threat. Now this crap. Stiverne vs Wilder, NO!!! Wilder vs another bum. Heavyweight boxing, what a joke. They are all protecting their perfect 0s and are taking the bum road to a championship fight with wlad. Cant blame wlad for boring mismatches. Someone needs to clean up this joke of a division.Posted August 10, 2014 7:25 am
Bill Patrice Jones
Barney Ali was no joke. I know he’s elevated above what he was as a fighter because of his mythical status, and I know his teddy bear image is a creation by the media because it’s too hard to present him in primary colors for a mass audience. The genuine turmoil, controversy, and antagonistic nature of Black Muslim groups and the real story of Black civil rights muddies the waters for the average person too much. For me I wish kids were brought up more on the real history behind Ali. Every SINGLE TIME in class I tell a student that Muhammad Ali spoke at KKK rallies they just can’t believe it, but get more interested and that’s a good thing. As for his career though get real. People had never seen a HW fight like Ali did (albeit in spurts) his; foot work, hand speed, the playing to the camera, the Ali shuffle. It infuriated and intrigued in equal measure. Johnny Carson even made the joke that Ali was on a commision for supporting non violence in the sport of boxing. However, look at his accomplishments, don’t sour them because he fought too many no hopers in title defenses. NO ONE could believe what he did to Sonny Liston in the first fight. It was a bonafide miracle for large parts of the media and public. Liston was seen as an absolute monster of a boxer, and an animal who would crush the undersized Ali. His comeback win over Foreman was also seen as a miracle at the time. He made legendary fights with Fraizer and Norton that will go down in history for their entertainment value as much as anything. His win over Chuck Wepner was the inspiration for the Rocky franchise, which regrettably is what most people in the general public know boxing for. Yes he could be cruel, but he could be very human and very loving. Watch him with kids in his camp. Such a naturally giving amiable, generous human being. His dark side is hidden, but why hate a man who gave the world as much as Ali did. Watch him in some of his interviews on U.S and U.K television when not showboating a very intelligent, wise and funny human being. If you hate Ali out and out, I don’t care who you are I think there’s something genuinely wrong with you. That goes for everyone except Joe Fraizer! Boxing owes a heavy debt to Muhammad Ali so does the planet in my opinion. Never before, never again.Posted August 10, 2014 6:58 am
Bill Patrice Jones
It’s all very well and good people saying Wilder needs rounds but who can guarantee they’ll give them to him? Fighters with punch are all going to look to be the guy who lands first. So if Stiverne ever does fight Wilder expect a much more aggressive than usual version of him. He can’t take his time like he did against Arreola. Wilder isn’t going to risk his WBC challenger status, and Gavern won’t last a damn round. The internet troll Charlie Z actually took Wilder’s flush shots better than most of his opponents lol. Why can’t the WBC order a final eliminator between Wilder and Jennings? Or is that fight a no go because they are with rival networks? I think they tried to get Wilder some rounds with Lyakhovic who gave the good version of Helenius nine tough fought rounds or something but he couldn’t last 2 minutes. People gave Chisora more credit for his controversial rip off win against Scott, in a fight he was losing, than they do to Deontay Wilder for getting rid of Scott in a single round? A round one KO over Malik Scott, a talented slick boxer, is no easy task. I truly believe no one will know if Wilder is the real article before he gets his ‘big’ fight and I also truly believe him versus Wladimir will never happen.Posted August 10, 2014 6:46 am
This is the worst most Laughable ERA in Heavyweight history. Period.Posted August 10, 2014 6:08 am
someone would be getting some serious respect.Posted August 10, 2014 6:02 am
ustinov would have taken it in a week’s notice.Posted August 10, 2014 5:59 am
Truth hurts. Happy not so happy with it.Posted August 10, 2014 5:37 am
Barney – spoken like a true demon.Posted August 10, 2014 5:28 am
Ali was / is a joke, albeit a bad one. His legacy is made up by the press and the rest of the media. He generated money for a lot of folks. The boxer was used and the public fooled. To this day a majority do not realize Ali was a created myth. His boxing talents were overblown and his nice guy image did not come in to being until years after his boxing ended. Most do not know his phoney name came by way of the Nation of Islam a dangerous racist group most famous for their attempt to start a race war and their belief white folks are demons which Ali shared.Posted August 10, 2014 5:22 am
Oh Tark, yet you watch bums like Toejam Hayemaker and rate them higher and better than Ali. You’re a joke.Posted August 10, 2014 4:01 am
I haven’t watched a full HW fight in over a decade, am already half way through the next decade and looks like am gonna be sticking to my decision for a while longer.Posted August 10, 2014 3:59 am
Yo.., “If boxers are admitting it is sometimes their job to lose, how do we know what fights are supposed to be real?”
I don’t show up for mismatches… I don’t enjoy muggings, I want to see a fight … a contest. Too many fans show up for fights that should never be sanctioned because they’re nothing but assault and battery made legal.
Garcia-Salka was no better… Or Jacobs-Fletcher… Some World Middleweight Championship Fight that was… a joke.Posted August 10, 2014 3:38 am
Wow! Gavern has 6 or 7 days notice, that’s a lot of training time! Wilder is a piece of fecal matter………………………Posted August 10, 2014 1:24 am
“Don’t be grinning whitey, because they are still tougher than you and that what is embarrassing for the USA.”
Based on what? Black American HW like Wilder are weak garbage that are scared to death to fight anyone good and go out of their way to avoid fighting anyone good. That isn’t “tough.”Posted August 10, 2014 12:42 am
I am loosing interest already.Posted August 10, 2014 12:40 am
Why is wilder fighting this bum. What happened to wilder vs stiverne.Posted August 9, 2014 11:42 pm
WILDER by EARLY KO. I am the GREATEST fight prophet EVER born!!!Posted August 9, 2014 10:49 pm
Octavius Jomar Chatman
Wilder is a CLOWN….A fraud is putting it too nicely….Posted August 9, 2014 10:31 pm
Lol @ yo… that dude did get punched in the should and dropped like a bag of hammers right onto his face and nearly out it seemed. Crazy!Posted August 9, 2014 10:18 pm
Biggest fraud in the HW division for years. This toothpick legged con artist has no business in the ring. I guarantee you the first guy who fights back KO’s this glass jawed freak. Wilder is another product of how weak Black America has become. Don’t be grinning whitey, because they are still tougher than you and that what is embarrassing for the USA.Posted August 9, 2014 9:11 pm
“I know my job, I know
Doesn’t this sound like a fix??
Gavern is saying his role is to lose and give Deontay a little work.
His honesty is refreshing, but… damn.
We saw Scott do his ‘job.’
We saw a guy yesterday quit against a Chinese hwt. from the first shot that hit his shoulder.
If boxers are admitting it is sometimes their job to lose, how do we know what fights are supposed to be real?Posted August 9, 2014 8:56 pm
Ustinov was anxious to go when Fury chickened out… I wonder they made him an offer.
So far Gavern has been used to pad the records of Boytsov, Mansour, Pajkic, Larsen, Browne, Cunningham, Maskaev, Ustinov, and Wach.
“I know my role.” … RightPosted August 9, 2014 8:54 pm
Just so you know
Strange fight. This guy Gavern was in UK Prizefighter not long ago.Posted August 9, 2014 8:51 pm
Blah blah, blah…
When is Wilder gonna stop fighting these bums? I mean this is ridiculous… Him and Fury make a lot of noise yet they consistently fight club fighters. Heavyweight boxing is dead.Posted August 9, 2014 8:49 pm
Joshua and Parker are fighting better guys than this con man and they haven’t even had 10 fights eachPosted August 9, 2014 8:44 pm
Better than waiting for Bermane forever… Get another round in.Posted August 9, 2014 8:39 pm
Look at wilders grin in that picture, it says how long can I fool these fools into believing I can box.Posted August 9, 2014 8:12 pm
Gavern is just being real. He’s a realist. He knows he’s in there to get ktfo! End of story. That being said shame on wilder and his team for this cesspool of a fight. Disgusting!Posted August 9, 2014 8:01 pm
Is this fight on the cartoon network ?Posted August 9, 2014 7:11 pm
Of course he is the underdog and of course Wilder will most likely KO him but his mindset is not that of a professional.Posted August 9, 2014 6:55 pm
Man, Gavern may be too humble or doesn’t believe in himself. I think it’s the latter. He shouldn’t be saying things like that when it’s his profession.Posted August 9, 2014 6:54 pm
I agree 1000% with the last poster!!!Posted August 9, 2014 6:51 pm
“My job is to get him rounds and make it a good fight. My job is to put on a show for the fans,”
When an opponent admits he can’t win, that’s when it shouldn’t be approved.Posted August 9, 2014 6:26 pm
Deontay got had a partial round in against Scott.. Not enough.. He expected to get 9 or 10 rounds in… He can’t sit around waiting for Stiverne’s people to start getting serious about a venue and date for their fight.
He’s fighting the toughest guys who are serious about fighting him for the money offered …
I hate to say this, but what good is this fight? … It’s another one-round job.Posted August 9, 2014 6:20 pm
If you buy into tbis joke of a fight in any form or shape, you are discrediting Boxing.Posted August 9, 2014 5:30 pm
What a complete mismatch this is. Wilder fans come on here complaining that people are haters towards Deontay well this is the reason why people do because this is pathetic now putting him in with this level off fighterPosted August 9, 2014 5:19 pm
Wilder is always going for quality opponents. Right? Rrrrrright!Posted August 9, 2014 5:13 pm
The man is back!Posted August 9, 2014 5:11 pm
25 16 4. hahahahahhhhhhh.Posted August 9, 2014 4:55 pm