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jason

te-tumbo, have you boxed ? I’m in my 40’s I’ve seen many brave great fighters,, my point you twat is that the peds was baseless slur by mayweather, which is proven by his own uncle, and yet you still bring it up because you can’t accept you may have been played for a mug by the mayweather propaganda machine.. and your hate for pac is too much… regarding the morales fight, that is what he said after the fight, whether it actually did or not is irrelevant, he believed it did, so of course he is going to be wary of doing it again so soon…. i repeat 4 days and testing after , removes doubt to anyone with a brain … so that rules you out i guess

Posted August 31, 2014 1:42 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, it’s true fight-fans like myself that have kept the sport alive over the past 25 years. without the west coast fanbase and its seemingly endless supply of willing homegrown fighters to represent us, Boxing wouldn’t be able to boast the highest-paid athlete in any sport. it’s because of passionate fight-fans like Us that fanboys like yourself even found out about our favorite sport.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:49 am 


te tumbo

JASON, your imbecility is so deep and profound, that i’ve decided not to bring you up to date with the past 10 years of Team PUNKuiao’s* calculated avoidance of Floyd that I call BullSh*t. bottomline, no fighter goes 12 action-packed rounds v. Morales including an all-out final-round punchout then claim they were “weak”(?). and what about Morales? he took the same tests, i.e., MUTUALLY-Applied, you DumbAss.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:45 am 


NiNJa NiZZLe

@TARK, yea that was a dirty double title grab by SRL, he never truly conquered 5 weight classes, just like pacquiao never truly earned his 154 title.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:22 am 


TARK

“In 1988, Sugar Ray Leonard conquered the vacant super middleweight championship as well as the light heavyweight championship in possession of Donny Lalonde in a memorable ninth-round knockout.”

It was a cherry-pick.

They promised the unknown Lalonde millions in return for boiling down to the 168 weight limit.. But his LHW title should not have been at stake.. There’s a rule that you can’t win 2 Divisional titles in one fight.

Andre Ward didn’t win Chad Dawson’s LHW title when he fought Chad at 168… James Toney didn’t win Iran Barkley’s LHW title when he fought Iran at 168… But Leonard had a more pull with the orgs and commissions.

Leonard fought Lalonde because he was giving up the 160lb title he won from Hagler. He didn’t want to face top ranked Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, or Julian Jackson.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:06 am 


jason

te tumbo – obviously you are stupid or cannot admit being wrong… either way just as bad, the former may be more forgivable.. anyways, 4 days before as roger mayweather said, including straight after (minimum 3 days to clear system) is random effectively, he just obviously – after the morales fight – didn’t want to have it the same day or night before, call it superstitious , call what you like, but he is within his rights to do that if he can remove all possibility of cheating, which is what he did, and don’t forget this is still more than the rules actually ask for and is more than any other boxer has ever asked before, i mean didn’t mayweathers antics with madina’s gloves give you an insight into the man ffs ???… you are just hater plain and simple… silly really, as pac made some great shows and as a boxing fan you should appreciate it… ok there not as good as they were and there are better out there now, but still pretty good fights, and still more enjoyable than mayweather fights on the whole.. go and watch another sport mate… boxing don’t needs fans like you

Posted August 29, 2014 10:37 pm 


Ray

Floyd only said steriord because he was afraid to fight. The fight negoacition was still going on, Floyd demanded the fight held at MGM , Impossable. The place only hold 8 k. Do the math no way both fighters can get 100 k with 8 thousands seat sold. Unless there sold at 500. K each.
Floyd a idiot. And Floyd production is a joke that only use to avoild the tax man.

Posted August 29, 2014 7:36 pm 


te tumbo

“te tumbo, you keep going on about peds” i have never posted a single thing about “peds”. i’ve only posted my suspicion that Pacquiao* faked outrage over being challenged to test as an excuse to avoid geting his ass BEAT by Floyd. it’s his heart and confidence that is suspect. his integrity became suspect the moment he began to haggle over random testing that is not negotiable. it’s RANDOM(!?!). any advance notice whatsoever compromises its integrity. besides, why would a clean or confident fighter need any advance notice, anyway?!? it defeats the entire purpose of random testing. consequently, Pacquiao* is suspect and 100% to blame for sabotaging their 2009 P4P $howdown. negotiations have never recovered.

Posted August 29, 2014 7:14 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd Suggests Ariza Now Part trainer of ‘The Money Team’

Floyd Mayweather Jr. has used social media as his primary source for major announcements in his legendary career. The unbeaten pound-for-pound king has taken to his Twitter and Shots accounts to first reveal his fights with Marcos Maidana and Saul ‘Canelo’ Alvarez in recent past, as well as broadcasting the undercards for those events.

Taking that approach to new heights, Mayweather dropped a shocker in the wee hours of Friday morning – the news that strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza is, in some capacity, a part of ‘The Money Team’ for his upcoming September 13 rematch with Maidana.

“Alex Ariza stretching the champ for his 3AM (Vegas time) run,” Mayweather posted through his verified Shots account .

It has yet to be confirmed whether or not Ariza is a full-time member of Mayweather’s camp for this fight, or if the photo is just being floated to draw a rise out of his opponent. Ariza worked with Maidana prior to their first fight, in which Mayweather was handed the toughest challenge of his career in escaping with a majority decision in their May 3 thriller.

The controversial conditioning coach was recently relieved of working in such capacity with several fighters training with Robert Garcia. Prior to the separation, Ariza worked with Maidana, Brandon Rios and Mikey Garcia among other fighters at the Robert Garcia Boxing Academy.

Ariza is best known for his time spent with Manny Pacquiao while also working with several other fighters out of Freddie Roach’s Wild Card Gym in Hollywood, California.

Mayweather was cryptic in previous comments regarding the difference in fighters before, during and after their time spent with the conditioning coach.

“I don’t have anything against anyone, but I noticed that when the guy, Alex Ariza, was in Amir Khan’s corner and when he faced Maidana, Amir Khan looked super strong in that fight,” Mayweather noted prior to his first fight with Maidana. “Then you go back and look at it, I go look at Maidana’s fights against certain guys, like when he fought Alexander, he was strong, he was still coming ahead because he’s the kind of guy that comes straight ahead, and liked the looped shots. He wasn’t as strong as he was in the Adrien Broner fight. In the Adrien Broner fight he was a lot stronger than he was in a lot of his past fights.

“I don’t know if Alex Ariza plays a major role into that, but when I sit back and I look, I’m looking at Pacquiao versus Bradley and I notice ever since Ariza has not been with Pacquiao anymore there’s been a total change in his power. So I look at things like that and I question things like that to myself, but I don’t worry about anything and I’m not going to say nothing about Ariza because I think he’s a pretty cool guy. I don’t really know him, but we got USADA, which is the best in the world, and we’re going to continue to go out there and do what we supposed to do.”

Both fighters were proven clean through random drug test results from the fight. Maidana entered training camp for the rematch without the services of Ariza, prompting Mayweather to extend an invitation during the press tour to hype the September 13 event.

“I would like Ariza to come over to my camp, you know, since I don’t use no physical trainer,” Mayweather claimed this past July when informed that Maidana and Ariza were not working together.

Posted August 29, 2014 3:18 pm 


Anonymous

   
WBC: Mayweather’s 147 and 154 Belt at Stake on 9/13
By World Boxing Council

Floyd Mayweather Jr. to defend WBC 147 & 154 titles on September 13th.

The WBC has decided to step forward and support yet another pinnacle in the history-making career of Floyd Mayweather Jr. Floyd is the only fighter ever to conquer WBC championships in five different weight categories as well as winning the WBC Diamond Belt and Solid Gold Belt.  Further, Floyd has the distinction of being one of the few champions who has received the WBC “Emeritus Champion” status.

Marcos Maidana is without a doubt a fighter who has created his own history in the sport. This past May, Marcos performed like no Mayweather opponent had in many years. That makes the September 13 rematch a very attractive event where Maidana could become the WBC Welter and Super Welter Champion of the world.

There is a rich history behind the uncommon situation this great battle presents. It has been 26 years since it last happened, when Sugar Ray Leonard defeated Donny Lalonde to claim the super middleweight and light heavyweight WBC World Championhsips.

Other examples are:

    130 years ago, Jack Dempsey, known as “Nonpareil” (not the better known heavyweight legend who later took after this name), defeated George Fulljames after 22 rounds in Staten Island, New York, claiming the welter and middleweight championships of the world.

    On April 24, 1931, at the “Chicago Stadium,” Tony Canzoneri defended his lightweight title while winning the super lightweight title held by his opponent Jack “Kid” Berg, from the U.K. Both fighters weighed in within the lightweight limit.

    In 1933, Barney Ross defeated Canzoneri, winning both the light and super lightweight world titles .

    In the late 1930s, Henry Armstrong was recognized as the featherweight, lightweight and welterweight champion of the world simultaneously .

    In 1988, Sugar Ray Leonard conquered the vacant super middleweight championship as well as the light heavyweight championship in possession of Donny Lalonde in a memorable ninth-round knockout.

The WBC is proud to be part of this historic promotion. The WBC wishes the best of luck to both fighters and great success to the promoters.

Posted August 29, 2014 3:13 pm 


jason

te tumbo, you keep going on about peds.. well here is a link from roger mayweather, clearly stating that pac was willing to do test up to 4 days before the fight, add that to the fact that testing straight after and drugs take a minimum of 3 days to clear the system for a blood test, then that is effectively random …. you have been sold a lie you MUG……..

…..eastsideboxing.com/weblog/news.php?p=28305&more=1

Posted August 29, 2014 1:52 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

a very long time indeed.

Posted August 29, 2014 10:46 am 


SREDMOND

Ninja, 50 Cent is known to Gossip like a chick and take the low road when it comes to disagreements with former friends and confidants.. While I respect him as a businessman I have never heard of him actually fighting ANY of the people he goes after on Social Media or records.. He is beginning to seem desperate for the limelight again…It has been a LONG time since he dropped “Get Rich or Die Trying”

Posted August 29, 2014 10:28 am 


NiNJa NiZZLe

SREDMOND, good posts. to add onto that anyone who knows 50 knows he has turned on almost everyone who he was friends with in the past. hes gone as far as recording phone calls with his “friends” and used the audio to embarrass them later. only a snitch records phone calls, he did that to young buck. 50 has no credibility at all to expose ne1.

Posted August 29, 2014 10:12 am 


SREDMOND

Tark, wants to introduce Tim Bradley and 50 Cents as his star witnesses as to why Manny and Floyd never fought?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! These two would get BLOWN off the witness stand by even a decent cross examination… 50 is a former Mayweather Groupie who is beginning to exhibit EXTREME jealousy towards and old friend… If he thought Floyd was such a coward then why did he spend half of those 24/7’s with his arm around Mayweather or carrying his belts like a lackey??? Tim Bradley is a Top Rank employee who has made the bulk of his fortune losing to Manny Pacquiao, if anything Bradley illustrates that Pac Man is simply not as dangerous as he once was.. Bradley in the second fight tried to really ring Mannys bell and survived to tell the story because Pacquiao is not a big puncher at WW…Again we know that The Top Rank and Golden Boy freeze out is REAL because NONE of their fighters are facing eachother… Floyd has been the HIGHEST paid athlete in the world for years and we may NEVER see another boxer earn so much per bout in our lifetimes again… He was in the unique position to tell the much hated Arum to go FCUK himself along with HBO…

Posted August 29, 2014 9:32 am 


SREDMOND

The best thing that nutcases can do in order to disparage Mayweather is peddle a couple of relatively close fights like Castillo and Maidana as possible losses for Mayweather when the truth is that neither fighter was really effective against Floyd… Its funny no one says that Oscar beat Floyd and he is the only guy to win a card off Mayweather why is that? Its because deep down even the detractors know they wanna give the other guy the nod for largely “ineffective aggression” Maidana and Garcia BOTH acknowledge that Chino “never hurt Floyd” and that he (Chino) needs to keep real distance and stop smothering himself with that mauling foolishness if he is gonna land crisp, effective and scoring blows…He shot his wad EARLY in the bout swarming, making it rough but not landing the telling blows that REALLY sway the judges… Those were provided by Mayweather who snapped his head back in the center of the ring and whipped his melon around like a bobble head doll looking at a hottie walk by… Psychos like Hecdog want to use fights like this in order to give Pac Man superiority or at worst parity with Mayweather in regards to their records but it is an EPIC fail…Manny is GREAT but he has been stopped 3x, most recently by a 39 year old opponent who could not do that to Floyd if Mayweather fought him with ONE hand and I mean that literally… Morales beat Pac Man, and Marquez and he have 3 fights that are subject to eternal debate.. None of this means that Manny is not an ATG fighter, but it does mean that he has NOT dominanted over his career the way Floyd has…4 years ago if someone tried to put Algieri in the ring with Manny the FBI and State Police would have been called!! Today you have BUMS like Tark, Bears and Hecdog selling this match as a summit meeting! Damn how the mighty have fallen!! If Mayweather scheduled a bout with Algieri after that Provo fight he would be a 10,000 to 1 underdog… Yet for Pac Man people are intrigued????

Posted August 29, 2014 9:24 am 


NiNJa NiZZLe

hecdog do u have a youtube account by the name of ed sugue? every time i ask u that i get no reply.

Posted August 29, 2014 5:09 am 


pactards r us

Hec

Its official you are totally F.U.B.A.R….

Posted August 29, 2014 3:53 am 


TARK

Hecdog… You DIDN’T answer my question… You scored the 5th round for Mayweather like I knew you would.

Did you score the rest of the fight for clean, effective, LEGAL punches landed WITH THE SOUND OFF???

Posted August 29, 2014 2:44 am 


Marquez killed Pacman

Hey HEC try scoring the PAC vs Marquez 4 fight with the sound off…LMFAO

Posted August 29, 2014 2:37 am 


Anonymous

Hecdog are trying to convince US of pacquiaos greatness or YOURSELF.

Posted August 29, 2014 2:35 am 


TARK

So Hecdog, did you score the rest of the fight with the sound off?

Posted August 29, 2014 1:59 am 


Anonymous

oh how the mighty has fallen.

That’s what you get for using PEDz

Posted August 28, 2014 9:35 pm 


pactards r us

PAC will lose credibility after losing to Algieri then be called a BUM if Mayweather chooses to fight him.

Posted August 28, 2014 9:28 pm 


pactards r us

Mayweather 11time world champion.

Posted August 28, 2014 9:18 pm 


te tumbo

“EVERY time . . .” THAT’s the PROBLEM. there should’ve never been additional “times” beyond a one-time response of “Yes”. by definition, random anti-doping testing is NOT a negotiable item. “Finally an angry Pacquiao* told his people he would test the day of the fight . . .” which makes it suspect, i.e., how and why did it ever come to “finally”? it’s a yes or no condition. are You at-least conceding that Pacquiao* was haggling over same-day testing? and “finally” what was the primary obstacle to same-day testing? health, culture, religion, or needle-phobia?

Posted August 28, 2014 8:58 pm 


Anonymous

Manny is one hell of a bum…

Posted August 28, 2014 8:54 pm 


Salu Yot

Kudos to the writer of this article.He made a very intellectual analysis of the odds and the figures on PPv between pacquiao and Mayweather respective fights. He pointed out that a lot of people wanted Mayweather to lose a fight and in the case of Pacquiao , lots of people wants to watch him to win a fight. Reason? The writer mentioned about personality and character between the two. One is arrogant and the other is humble. One adores money, the other adores the fans gives everything and do everything to make them happy.

Posted August 28, 2014 8:25 pm 


mansworld

Who the hell cares about the Castillo fight? Its ancient history, Floyd has gotten 100 times better since that fight and he washed Castillo ib the rematch. People always try to compare Floyd to Manny but there is none. Floyd beat the the best and Manny lost 5 times no to mention he got KTFO by Marquez who is a bum. Manny alos lost the 3rd fight and the judges gave it to him. JMM owned Manny no way in hell he has to keep fighting a guy over and over to win and be considered the best.

Posted August 28, 2014 8:19 pm 


TARK

Hecdog says… “Tark my friend, I posted my thoughts to the Castillo Mayweather fight last night, and the punch score for round 5 was Floyd 15 punches and Castillo 8 punches.”

Good… That’s a START!!! … That’s a round that the HBO crew and HBO punch stat man gave to Castillo — but YOU had Floyd out punching Castillo almost 2 to 1…

Now…

Go over the ENTIRE FIGHT and observe it just as carefully with the sound OFF COMPLETELY!!! … and see what your score is… You’ll be amazed again… if you’re just as observant and objective as you were for the 5th round… You’ll see Floyd won the fight by a clear margin and you were influence by the HBO crew and the faulty punch stats some IDIOT generated.

Posted August 28, 2014 7:32 pm 


TARK

NOPE.. How’s this??

te tumbo says.., “Harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied testing condition. Pacquiao* panics and proceeds to cite cultural, religious, and health excuses before settling on a needle-phobia. EVERYthing else is nothing more than an outcome of this initial scenario”

That’s TOTAL BULLSHlT!!!

EVERY time Pac came to Floyd’s position on drug testing Floyd asked for something different with regard to the testing… Finally an angry Pacquiao told his people he would test the day of the fight and between rounds if that’s what Floyd wanted to do. “Just get the fight done.”

Then Floyd put up the money split issue… Pacquiao agreed to Floyd’s suggested split… With an agreement reached, Floyd left the negotiations and went off on vacation… He said, “I’m not even thinking about Boxing right now… That’s the farthest thing from my mind.”

When Pacquiao was made Floyd’s mandatory after the Rios fight — Floyd, who had been negotiating with Arum for years, said Pacquiao would have to get rid of Arum.

Recently, Floyd finally admitted he doesn’t want to fight Pacquiao.

Posted August 28, 2014 7:13 pm 


te tumbo

“a man so dubious he was fired by Freddie Roach and Robert Garcia?” is that the answer to my challenge of how could Mayweather possibly know that PED-testing would be a deal-breaker for Pacquiao*? did Floyd know something about the Ariza’s dubiously-legitimate power-shakes that Team Pacquiao’s* panicked response confirmed? that is the reasonable and logical conclusion that usually gets Pactards* foaming at the mouth. ultimately, i believe that Team Punkuiao* was desperate to avoid a lopsided and embarrassing loss v. Floyd. even at the risk of casting a permanent shadow on Pacquiao’s* ring-integrity . . . Mission Accomplished.

Posted August 28, 2014 7:03 pm 


Thomson

Floydiots are living from the past. But doesnt know about boxing history. As long as they fo their “homework” from teacher Mayweather.

Posted August 28, 2014 6:58 pm 


TARK

PEEJ.., “Tark what’s the point of asking Bradley and 50? Why not ask Ariza who puts all the blame on Arum.”

Ask Ariza?.. a man so dubious he was fired by Freddie Roach and Robert Garcia?

Posted August 28, 2014 6:49 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

exactly its pacs fault. plus there is no reason y he couldnt have made the fight with floyd b4 resigning with his slavemaster arum.

Posted August 28, 2014 6:45 pm 


PEEJ

Tark what’s the point of asking Bradley and 50? Why not ask Ariza who puts all the blame on Arum.

Posted August 28, 2014 6:21 pm 


PEEJ

That is one of my arguments. Floyd agreed to everything they demanded. Whether Floyd was playing mind tricks or not with the Marquez weight issue. He still agreed. I don’t think Arum expected that. So when Floyd demanded drug testing they found a way out and that was the stopping point. If they would of agreed to the testing and Floyd came up with something else then I could see Floyd ducking. That wasn’t the case. And instead of just saying no to the testing he made excuses on why he didn’t want to which was the mistake. Then Roach talking about Ariza a few months ago just makes you wonder

Posted August 28, 2014 6:20 pm 


te tumbo

TARK, skip the preamble and let’s simply focus on the instant negotiations broke down first and once and for all: everything is agreed-upon when Pacquiao* insists on a $10 million overweight penalty. Mayweather agrees and responds with a Harmless and MUTUALLY-Applied testing condition. Pacquiao* panics and proceeds to cite cultural, religious, and health excuses before settling on a needle-phobia. EVERYthing else is nothing more than an outcome of this initial scenario for which Pacquiao* is 100% responsible. afterwards, Mayweather remained undefeated and Pacquiao* lost to Bradley and was KTFO by Marquez. Btw, we’re all still waiting for the brand new 40,000-seat arena(?).

Posted August 28, 2014 5:54 pm 


TARK

“It is a unique blend of timing and issues that has allowed these boxers to never meet”

Okay… Let’s look at the factors…

They’re very close in age… They both campaign mostly at 147 – and have since Pac smashed DLH six (6) years ago… The world has been abuzz about the fight for since Pac destroyed DLH… They’re the 2 most popular and recogized welterweights in the world… Pacquiao has always been willing to fight and has bent offer backwards to make the fight happen… They reached a negotiated agreement to fight at one point…

Those were ALL positive factors in favor of the fight being made.

But it’s like the Bowe-Lewis Fight… one fighter is CHICKENSHlT!!!

If you don’t believe me, just ask Tim Bradley and 50 Cents.

Posted August 28, 2014 5:16 pm 


REM

Tark fair post Gates and Buffett are great examples for your point. But I do think you’d agree a big majority of the rich use that system to keep aa much money as they can. If the majority of the rich were like Gates and Buffet we wouldn’t have such a huge gap between the rich and the working poor they’d pay working men a decent wage forget charity. Im left-center politically who certainly has a generous heart but I also acknowledge that when you get to that bracket things change. The majority become delusional about their divinity and superiority over common men. So they tend to use charity strategically its just the common mindset of the rich.

Posted August 28, 2014 5:09 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond I agree the fight could be a damp squid but the event would be spectacular n the casual fans don t care if pac got kod by jmm . They just know pac n mays names r inextricably linked for the last 7 yrs . And pac is not like rjj against bhop hes still no 3 p4p it could still be a very good fifht

Posted August 28, 2014 5:06 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza didnt cotto do the fight with floyd without arum? pacquiao didnt even attempt it, thats the problem. if he at least tried he would be calling floyds bluff bigtime. instead he ran back to his rapist.

Posted August 28, 2014 5:02 pm 


brza da originator

Ninja Pac got a 5 fight 20 million gauranteed contract from arum ( I don t believe for a second arum is the reason Floyd won t fight if that was the case where was bob in 09 ) . If he ditched arum n may still refused to fight him May would call him a dumb asian midget n all his fanboys wud clap along like seals . Btw I was ripping wit pac when the stadium thing came up n told my boys as much but then within the week they tried to start negotiating n may threw up his 40 mill take it or leave it flat offer n I knew may was full of s**t n the fight wouldn’t happen . N yeah I was f***ing mad I love this sport n know what it could do for the game

Posted August 28, 2014 4:55 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza if u really want more info on it google Darryl Hommo Baum. u have to understand when pacs contract expired that was the perfect time to make the fight with floyd. bob arum was out of the picture, pac was a free agent, so y didnt he do the fight with floyd then resign with arum afterwards? explain that 1 to me please.

Posted August 28, 2014 4:29 pm 


SREDMOND

Braza, I am a fan of Manny and Floyd and EACH guy has exercised their hard-won influence…No fighter is perfect but it is a unique blend of timing and issues that has allowed these boxers to never meet… Some of us are getting past caring as Manny could not hold up his end of the deal nor stay conscious against 39 year old Marquez… That moment killed a lot of the intrigue!!! Yes anything can happen but it happened to MANNY and it damaged the cache of the bout immeasurably… Wins against Rios, Bradley and likely Algieri have not repaired the damage wrought by Marquez right hand…

Posted August 28, 2014 4:27 pm 


TARK

@ Rem.., The rich (not all of them) donate to charity because they love to help out worthy causes and people, not because they’re thinking only of the tax benefits.

Warren Buffett and Bill Gates have already donated over 40 Billion to various charitable causes. That’s many times more than they save in taxes.

If you had several billion dollars, I’m quite sure you would be looking to help somebody with it – and not only thinking about how much you could keep for yourself.

Many athletes—but not guys like Magic Johnson—get stupid with money.

Just because you have a long term contract that’s gonna pay you 160 million, doesn’t mean you can throw away several million dollars here or there to show off.

You can easily end up broke if you have anything under a billion dollars. You can get a little stupid if you have more than that — but not real stupid.

Posted August 28, 2014 4:26 pm 


brza da originator

Word on the nyc city streets was fiddys crew did it but now that u over in England set me right on the matter remind me to reprimand all the ogs from south jaimaca o that told me differant .Btw did the cops catch the guy ur talkin aabout r are u just quoting the book . Why doesn’t Floyd just come out n say ok Pac said he will do the tests n take a smalker % lets fight under those cconditions that I set out all along . Now that wouldn’t be too hard would it . If that did happen wit things standing the way they are now I would never defenf Pac again . See thats the differance between me n the fanboys I don t think theres anything Floyd cud do to make they’re fans turn against him . Is there anything he ever did that u did nt like or any time u thiught he tooknan eaay option picking out an opponent ?

Posted August 28, 2014 4:14 pm 


PEEJ

REM I have read that list and most of those have nothing to do with the Pac fight. Some of those are just Floyd talking trash. And I have posted all the excuses Pac has come up with and there is a list.

Posted August 28, 2014 4:06 pm 


REM

Peej if you scroll down far enough you’ll see Hecdogs post where he list Floyds excuses and you’ll see a Floyd imposters weak rebuddle. No way did Pac make more excuses not even close.

Posted August 28, 2014 4:03 pm 


REM

Ninja I don’t know exactly how it would work but I do know that the rich don’t donate out of generousity they donate to charity as a tax write off to keep their money. If they don’t Uncle Sam rapes them. So somehow Pac would’ve used that to help his tax burden.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:46 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza da originator

Ninja the best ever version of mike never got beat by by bums . The danaged coke head did . Mike did nt have a stable upbringing like Floyd in suburban Michigan . Fiddy was in hospital but his crew iced that cat . U gotta have juice for a crew to put in work like that for u . Thats what I like about fiddy he did what he did to get outta the streets n nevet go back . Floyd was never in the streets but became a millionaire n pretended he was gangsta . Weak . Like that other wanna be wanksta jaime foxx from hillbillie texas tried talkin smack to LL n he ended up on the ground ko d beside his bodyguard

Posted August 23, 2014 8:49 pm

for the record brza thats wat u said “scrub” so dont LIE in future. again i only read excerpts from the book about hommo not the entire book. end of discussion.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:40 pm 


PEEJ

It is only partially up to Floyd. If Arum doesn’t want to negotiate then it can’t happen. And Arum is stuck on the 50/50 aspect and HBO has to be apart of the promotion even though Pac has no contract with HBO.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:37 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza actually no, i believe pacman is posturing as if he does want the fight. if he really wanted it he wouldnt have renewed his contract with bob arum b4 fighting floyd.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:27 pm 


brza da originator

Ninja so ur admittung that pac does want the fight n floyd does nt want it . Im not talkin about a certain day at a certain time in the past im talkin about today . Thats exactly my point Floyd has the power n does nt want the fight I cid gi e a f**k about the reasons . Look at that we actually agree on the subject .

Posted August 28, 2014 3:25 pm 


PEEJ

REM just so you know Pacs list of excuses trumps Floyds list.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:25 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

also this question is yet to be answered. if manny really wanted to fight floyd y did he renew his contract with bob arum?

Posted August 28, 2014 3:24 pm 


PEEJ

Your right it may have cleared his debt because the tax right off that he could of done. But that offer was not real in any form at all.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:24 pm 


PEEJ

REM Floyd had the date already set up. Why change the date. It is during one of the most profitable times in boxing. During a mexican holiday. So no that was a BS counter offer from Arum. Lets see we can’t fight Floyd because he is going to jail in June but yet the fight was in May and what did Floyd do? Get the next best opponent in Cotto. So sorry. But the excuses from Pac and company pile way hire than Floyds excuses. And no at that time the fight was not gonna do 200 million. Heck I am not sure that fight would of ever done 200 million. They were talking about it doing a little more than 100 million. And when the 40 million was offered the fight had lost a lot of zest to it. And doing a 100 million would not be bad at all. Yet they turned down 40 million. Pac turned it down. So really he would not accept less like he said. And his manager has constantly said that Pac has never agreed to the random testing with out any cut off. Now they are saying it because they did it against Rios and they can’t get the type of money they used to get.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:23 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

REM, how would donating to charity clear pacs tax debts? im no accountant either, maybe u can explain that for me.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:20 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza, thats the whole point! back when the tax man wasnt knocking pacquiao was acting all special and saying no to tests. saying no to purse splits etc. suddenly when he sees the reaper coming for him he wants to sell his soul to floyd and fight him? he had his chances but he blew it! u denied pac was in debt on this very thread, thats y i told u to google it and educate urself. dont lie dude, u said 50s boys killed hommo. i suggest u go and read wat u said on that thread if u cant remember.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:13 pm 


REM

Ninja the offer was real if im not mistaken im no accountant nor am I rich but donating it to charity would’ve  probably cleared Pacs tax debt.

Posted August 28, 2014 3:08 pm 


brza da originator

What da f**k does pacs debt situation have ti do wit the fight situation . I did nt adress it because its irrellevant . If anything it should prove that pac does want the fight because he needs money to get outta debt . I think pac woukd definately take a few lumps from Floyd if he was in as much trouble as u said . Your damn sure pac knew may wouldn’t fight for free but it was a great comeback n shut mayweathers side up for a while . How awesome would it have been if may said aight lets do it . Yeah thats never gonba happen Btw I never said who killed that hommo guy u f**kin scrub I did nt even know his name till u told me ( I guess that means I can t really be from new york right ) . I said fiddys crew put in work n u said 50 did nt avenge the shooting n I said how could 50 have killed the guy if he was in hospital when he got iced . Btw u know way more about this than I do n I cud give a f**k . U read a book about it n I did nt . End of disussion

Posted August 28, 2014 3:07 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

REM if the 40 mill offer is unacceptable how can donating all proceeds to charity be acceptable? especially when u know theres no way in hell arum would do that. pacquiao wouldnt either with his debts.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:57 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza wat r u not understanding about pacquiaos debt situation? i see u sidestepped that 1 lol. pacs offer was as fake as ur info on who killed hommo. we deal with facts around here, but it seems u prefer to ignore those.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:53 pm 


REM

Hecdogs list.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:42 pm 


REM

Peej Hotdogs list of Floyds b.s completely covers everything I dont have the energy to think of everything right now. I’ll provide a couple though 1st in response to Arum wanting a stadium to be built didn’t Floyd set a date and venue without even negotiating smh. Who does that lmao. So give b.s you get b.s like Arum gave right back to Floyd. Cmon man 40 mil offer unacceptable, sign with Mayweather promotions to get the fight insulting, must train in the us and use the usada are you effing kidding me lmao. Im convinced you guys are just messing with me and don’t really believe the arguments your making.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:41 pm 


brza da originator

@Peej as opposed to who Floyd the philantropist . Btw that stadium excuse only lasted about 2 seconds ( arum already had an in house fifht lined up ) n when they tried to negotiate floyd offered a $40 mill take it or leave it offer to a fight that was projected to do 200million . Btw peej pac has said for yrs he will do the drug testing n take a smaller % of the purse so why has nt the fight happened ?

Posted August 28, 2014 2:27 pm 


PEEJ

Fact is saying you are wanting to donate money and actually doing it are 2 different things. If Arum is claiming the fight had to be 50/50 there was no way in hell this fight would of been made were all monies was being given to charity. Arum is to much of a greedy old man for that.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:20 pm 


PEEJ

They provided more than a couple of bullets. Let me ask you this, how many fights have been not made because there needs to be an out door stadium needing to be built? Floyd has only given a couple. Asking for a random drug test, I mean really what is the big issue with that? Then after those negotiations went to crap from that point on Floyd became the bigger seller so he wanted a bigger piece of the pie which he would rightfully deserved. They said no had to be 50/50. So Floyd said fine if I can’t deal with Arum then I don’t want to deal with him ever. So I am not sure what bullets you talk about. Pac and company have had way more excuses than Floyd.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:19 pm 


REM

Peej no my friend. See while Arum, Konz, Roach and Ariza provided you with a couple of bullets as ammo Floyd has provided his critics with an a.c. 130. You cant compare comments these guys have made to the unreasonable demands Floyd has made. And as long as the fight is projected to break recs. Pac still has major leverage.

Posted August 28, 2014 2:07 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond agreed both guys are atgs but the fans n the sport in general missed out .@ NINJA what r u not understanding ? Pac was told in an interview may did nt want to give him a payday so pac said lets fight for charity . Why r u acting like pac was a scumbag for making this statement? How can i put it to u any simpler , pac wanrted to fight for money but fkoyd said no so he said lets fight for charity n there was nt a word out of floyd . Weak . Great comeback ftom pac . Btw pac is after donating tens of millions of dollars to helping the Philippines

Posted August 28, 2014 2:03 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

also brza u again seem oblivious to mannys debts, im starting to wonder if ur just trolling. google manny pacquiao tax problems and educate urself.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:58 pm 


PEEJ

Funny how Arum never had a problem with Oscar even though he would insult him from time to time. And its funny how Arum and Pac turned down a 100 million dollar fight over a drug test that he was so willing to take against Rios. See that argument can go both ways.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:55 pm 


REM

So let me get this straight Floyd denied himself 100 mil because he didn’t like the person he’d have to do business with to make the money. Exetremely logical. Especially since while making the 100 mil he could set his enemy (Arum) way back by crushing his cash cow (Pac). Very funny how TR and GB did fights until the public demanded Floyd fight Pac. Arum also said he never had a problem with Oscar. Now that Floyds career is ending low and behold they’re ready to do business again. Must be a coincidence lol.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:47 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza so u actually believe manny wouldve donated all the proceeds of his fight with floyd to a charity? now ur just playing dumb. name me 1 time when manny has donated his entire purse to a charity. if he was willing to do that then 40 mill was enough and he had no reason to say no, cut the crap dude. dont let ur hate for floyd disable u from thinking str8.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:46 pm 


SREDMOND

Braza, Morales and Barrera NEVER had this kind of $$$$ on the table nor were the future of their respective promoters on the table… They were not battling during the Cold War between TR and Golden Boy… We have all lost out on what might have been a GREAT fight but it happens and all that can be done is moving on and letting go… If these guys fight till they are 45 are we gonna go thru an annual discussion of why they are not fighting now in between prostate examinations? If you wanna pretend neither is Great because they did not meet then you do a disservice to the bouts and fighters that built their reputations and made this possible contest once so intriguing…

Posted August 28, 2014 1:45 pm 


PEEJ

Fact is Pac could of had the fight in 2010. But he declined to take the fight and instead he fought Clottey thinking he could have better negotiating power. But that did not happen. And as time went on he lost more negotiating leverage. Now he has absolutely zero leverage.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:44 pm 


PEEJ

Arum would of never let Pac fight and then donate all the money earned to charity. Arum is not for donating his whole purse. If he was then he could of donated the 40 mil offered. But Pac turned it down. That was no genius move because anybody with half a brain knows it wasn’t a real.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:40 pm 


Anonymous

Look at PAC begging for this fight

Posted August 28, 2014 1:40 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond yeah pac knew that he would nt take up the offer but it was a good comeback . May fans say pac don t call him out enough but then when he does they rag on him . Would they preferred him to say talk to my promoter ? I just don t accept the reasons for this fight not happening . Morales n barrera genuinly hated each other n chomped at the bit to tear each other apart . Now it seems boxing has shifted to if u don t like a guy r his promoter u don t fight him instead of beating him up n dropping his stock . Where did it all go wrong ?

Posted August 28, 2014 1:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Braza, I take it for what it is, grandstanding and not something that business people routinely do with millions of dollars.. Pac mans position does not indicate sincerity, I believe this bout died as a result of mutual dislike and mistrust that ultimately tanked it…It has been 5 years since TR and Goldenboy did a major fight and that’s something that goes beyond just Mayweather and Pacquiao.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:11 pm 


Chicago. guy

Floyd The Prima dona of boxing while Pacquiao The Fighter.

Posted August 28, 2014 1:06 pm 


brza da originator

May says he won t give him a pay day because for some reason he hates him n he says he millions in debt ( hes not ) . So pac says he will fight for free . If the tables were turned n may pulled that move his fans wouldulf never shut up about it . Think about my last statement Sredmond u know its true . Btw I think may would be foolish to bet his whole purse against maidana but he looked like a damn fool offerin a straight bet to a 14 to 1 dog as a way of showin bravado . Do u not agree ?

Posted August 28, 2014 12:53 pm 


SREDMOND

Braza, you are thinking well beneath what I believe you are capable of… This is NOT a pissing contest with this type of money in question… Businessmen are not gonna make macho bets regarding 40 million dollars… C’mon man you know better than that, Pac Man is in NO position to put 40 mill on the line foolishly and neither is Floyd…It was NOT “A Stud Move” it was little boy posturing that does not solve a god damn thing anymore than 50 putting up $750k for Floyd to read Harry Potter or Floyd countering with $1million to get a video of 50’s son telling him he loves him.. Reality is that this is a business deal that did NOT get consummated, no more no less…

Posted August 28, 2014 12:43 pm 


brza da originator

@ninja where to even start wit this wack post. Floyd wouldn’t fight him for money so manny wanted to fight for free . It was a stud move by pac and made Floyd look as stupid n weak as the time he tried to show confidence by offerin a straight bet to an 14 to 1 underdog . Rofl . If marcos laid his purse wit avegas he wouldve won 40 mill plus .Someone forgot to tell Floyd to look confident ur supposed to offer each others purses in the bet e.g. james degale wagerin his larger % to groves . Whats that u say but Floyd had a way bigger purse . Thats the reason it would have shown confidence , BY WINBER TAKES ALL . How dare Pac look to fight for charity the guy is already after givin tens of millions away to the needy (this is how I know hes serious ) will they never have enough . Floyd is selflessly letting millions of submissive male wanna bes live there lives through his stripper dating purple Bentley driving persona . If pac choose the charity he d give it to starvin children F**k that we want to swe May ball . Right ?

Posted August 28, 2014 12:37 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

DELK1

We all talk about Pac, Bob and Mayweather. But the only true person that will cause this fight not to happen at this point is PAC. He had a chance to call Mayweathers Bluff by not signing with Top Rank. Make a one fight deal for the BIGGEST fight in the history of the sport. If Mayweather would have made excuses, then we all would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was scared. When Cotto contract end, he did what anyone with a half of brain would do. That is play the lottery by fighting Mayweather. Yes you will be the underdog and the cards will be stacked against you. But what do you have to lose? Nothing to being ashamed of by losing to Mayweather, everybody that has fought him has lost.

^Yeah, pac had the golden opportunity to get the fight if he REALLY wanted it. He chose instead to sign that extension. Now WHY would he/did he do that (think about it). Well, Arum won’t disclose that; now that the contract is signed. haha You guys need to dig a little deeper and see things from the outside looking in. Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And where there’s manny, there’s smoke and mirrors.

& like another guy said, pac chose $20 mill to get ANNIHILATED BY JMM instead of a $40 mill guarantee to fight Floyd. haha what a jokeeeeeee.

Posted August 28, 2014 12:05 pm 


SREDMOND

Fighting for Charity is a JOKE when 40-50 mill is on the line! This is NOT a boxing match between Warren Buffett and Bill Gates a couple of guys who could wipe their azzes with that kind of money… AGAIN this fight did NOT happen and it may never, if it does the results will be questioned due to the combatants being 5 or more years downstream from the peak…. Who discusses the second Hearns vs Leonard bout? or Leonard vs Duran 3? we all know that Manny and Floyd don’t have a part 1 but the reality is that the amount of time from peak interest, inclusive of Manny not having 2 bad outings with Marquez one of which left him unconscious is long ago…

Posted August 28, 2014 10:57 am 


DELK1

We all talk about Pac, Bob and Mayweather. But the only true person that will cause this fight not to happen at this point is PAC. He had a chance to call Mayweathers Bluff by not signing with Top Rank. Make a one fight deal for the BIGGEST fight in the history of the sport. If Mayweather would have made excuses, then we all would know beyond a shadow of a doubt that he was scared. When Cotto contract end, he did what anyone with a half of brain would do. That is play the lottery by fighting Mayweather. Yes you will be the underdog and the cards will be stacked against you. But what do you have to lose? Nothing to being ashamed of by losing to Mayweather, everybody that has fought him has lost.

Posted August 28, 2014 10:40 am 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza the unoriginal, if u think floyds offer of 40 mill was BS, WTH do u think mannys offer to donate all the proceeds to charity was? especially knowing floyd fights for money and is the worlds highest paid athlete. that is the ultimate BS and duck move on pacquiaos part. as for his loss to morales he had more than 1 excuse. he blamed the gloves, the blood test, his promoter, his cut etc. if pacquiao was really willing to donate all the money to charity then 40 mill was enough. how u can be so oblivious to that is beyond me.

Posted August 28, 2014 10:22 am 


PEEJ

Nope Pac has not given in to all the original demands. Just ask his manager Koncz. He will tell you. Anytime he does an interview he says Pac never said he agreed to this. But your right Floyd doesn’t want to give Arum a pay day. Arum missed out when they declined to fight during the first round of negotiations. Also Arum states HBO has to be apart of the promotion which is another hurdle. Especially since Pac has no contract with HBO. Then to further it Arum said he will not work with Haymon. Which just so happens to be Floyds manager. What is funny though is Floyd haters give him a hard time for saying he doesn’t want to work with Arum but give a pass when Arum says he will not work with Haymon. Especially when Haymon has so many fighters he manages.

Posted August 28, 2014 10:17 am 


Big George

Rocky Marciano fought the baddest dudes alive like who? Sonny Liston ? He was there since 1953 and a #1 contender. where was good ol” Rocky?

Posted August 28, 2014 10:09 am 


SREDMOND

People want to discuss Manny and Floyds performance against common opposition well out of Cotto, Mosley, Oscar, Hatton and Marquez… Floyd fought 3 of them FIRST and taking Hattons 0 in the process and stopping him, he fought Shane when Mosley was still viable and NOT on a losing/draw with Mora streak, Marquez was still able to fight Pac Man to a standstill in the 3rd fight and KO him in the 4th fight AFTER Mayweather took 12 rounds off him where he often had his hands down and made Marquez swing at air…Pac Mans runup from Barrera to Cotto and others was one of the best I have ever seen that said he simply does not have the level of invincibility that Mayweather has continued to show as comes within a pubic hair of being 40 years old…People say “his legs are gone” “he is slower” some of this could be true but apparently his ring intelligence, stamina and skill are not because he is NOT getting KOed by 39 year old fighters! He is not even fighting any 39 year old fighters, Cotto was 31, Guerrero 30, Ortiz 25, Canelo 23, Maidana 31…If Mayweather hangs around a loss will come sooner or later that said it will be WELL out of his prime Wlad, Marquez, Pacquiao, Donaire, Martinez, Cotto and most of the other top guys who have 30 or more fights booked losses LONG ago and at times to no one unbeatable… Mayweather stands alone amongst the Elites with over 30 bouts never having been splattered across the canvas or outboxed… Its an unreal accomplishment and one that assures him ATG status upon his retirement…

Posted August 28, 2014 9:21 am 


SREDMOND

“The Fight” as it is being discussed no longer exists in its original conception and the debate can rage FOREVER, but as of today we would have a 38 year old Mayweather going against a 36 year old recently KOed Pacquiao… Perceptions are not the same barring a really bad outing against Maidana or a loss Mayweather would be a 3-1 or 4-1 favorite… Marquez tamed Pac Man and I don’t see the ferocity and certainly not the power returning, the idea that he was EVER going to outbox Floyd Mayweather is not realistic..As difficult as it is the MOMENT has past and the sooner guys make peace with it the sooner the next wave of stars and matchups can emerge..

Posted August 28, 2014 9:08 am 


brza da originator

Loomis I dunno do u guys get the full facts on the otherside of the pond but at this moment in time mayweather is stopping the fight . He said he don t wanna give Pac a pay day so manny said lets fight for charity . Crickets . Btw pac hates giving blood he did it right before the morales fight n he thought it weakened him . He has no problem givin it 4days befire the fight n straight after the fight . Thats a 4 day Window to start a course of steroids n get it out of ur system ROFL . Mayweather knows what happened wit pac n the blood test in the first morales fight . How does he know ? Because may was a big pac fan and used to call him a phenomanal fighter . May only decided he hated pac when he came up thru the weights n started to challenge him . And anyway forget all that . Pac has given into all his original demands . The best fighter on the planet should be runnin over water to try n fight his biggest rival not comin up wit excuses not to fight . And boxing fans shouldnt be helping him by arguing his pathetic case for not making the fight

Posted August 28, 2014 9:01 am 


He Glosses Me!

Rocky Marciano fought the baddest dudes alive…Floyd ducks the best competition…it’s that simple

Posted August 28, 2014 8:29 am 


He Glosses Me!

Floyd doesn’t care about legacy or history…he won’t live into his 50’s the miserable bastard is going out like Cobain.

Posted August 28, 2014 8:26 am 


Hale is an idiot

Because he is doing the same thing and telling you not to

Posted August 28, 2014 8:23 am 


HALE

You lot all sound so dumb arguing over this.

Posted August 28, 2014 8:12 am 


Anonymous

The word on the streets is that HecDog is really Manny’s Lover Buboy.

Posted August 28, 2014 6:53 am 


loomis

Brza originator….the needles, religon, superstitions,scared of sight of blood etc…… were all fears he had previously , how do think he has managed to overcome those fears now?????? Has he been attending day proceedure with a shrink?????

Posted August 28, 2014 6:36 am 


loomis

Brza originator…. Floyd challenged pacquiao to offer him $$$$$ and called his bluff !!!!! Did pacquiao offer it???? No , probably because he couldnt even offer 40 cents . You really need to get your facts straight before you come here and stop talking a load of ….what my dog leaves behind when we go for walkies!!!!!

Posted August 28, 2014 6:16 am 


Moby dick

I wonder where manny ranks on ppv listings for non HW and non American boxers? I got some idea but not sure how up to date it is. I would imagine he would be top 5…

Posted August 28, 2014 6:13 am 


Moby dick

BPJ
Agree fully. The moment has passed. All we got now is supposition and lots of fans hurling cow paddies across boxing forum bows. Some of the hurling is fun, but completely unsatisfying.

Posted August 28, 2014 5:50 am 


NiNJa NiZZLe

Thomson, floyd has already made history. no other undefeated fighters resume and achievements can compare to his. even if he loses before he hangs them up hes still the only boxer ever to defeat 20 world champions etc.

Posted August 28, 2014 5:09 am 


Thomson

Floyd is not even in the history level of boxing yet, till he reach 50-0
The Best Excuse #TBE

Posted August 28, 2014 4:05 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

This is over done and dead. There was a possibility in 2008-2009 for Pacquiao Mayweather to be the biggest fight in the history of the game, the most sensationally unpredictable hyped to extremes boxing contest ever. Pacquiao’s hype was so outrageous given what he had been doing to such naturally bigger men, and how he was doing it, that the natural advantages in size and weight and skill weren’t enough for vast portions of people to vote and bet on a pacquiao win. This fight would have been glorious. I think the ring walks and introductions alone would have brought chills of no measure for a boxing fan. But it’s passed. They have orchestrated the single biggest f*ck up in boxing’s history instead. Shameful on all parts, but most shameful on Mayweathers. It will never happen, and even if it does some 5 years later the moment has passed

Posted August 28, 2014 3:40 am 


happy posters

look, at the end of the day both are great.

FMJ Great for
– being a boxer
– being a promoter
he’s one of the best of all time, no need for a debate, also he’s very good at promoting fights

Pac Great for
– being a boxer
– at the same time a congressman
– also at the same time a Basketball player
he may not excell in all his careers, i guess he’s happy to do all the things he wants to do, unlike many of posters here who’s debating and debating and never really got to taste life.

You can debate all you want, hate all you want but at the end of the day, THEY DON’T KNOW YOU, AND DON’T CARE AT ALL THE BULLCRAP YOU TYPE HERE. ring a bell?

Posted August 28, 2014 1:08 am 


hibdeebibdee

Pfffffffffft!

Posted August 28, 2014 12:25 am 


Thurmal Underwear

manny pacquiao=barry bonds

Posted August 27, 2014 10:48 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Hecdog

Gentlemen, when both Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao retire, who do you think will be at peace and more comfortable doing other things in life? Who will have more respect from the boxing world? Who can say they did something more in boxing that has never been done before? Who will they say dodged, ducked and was simply afraid to take on another fighter? Who will they say is The Peoples Champion? And who will they say was the better fighter?

First off, Manny Pacquiao will have many more options in his life after boxing because of his many talents he delves into right now. Actor, Singer, Model, Conressman, Basketball Player/Coach, Painter and a million other things. Floyd Mayweather will have Hm………………..Time to read.

Second, Manny Pacquiao will have so much more respect from the boxing world because he dared to be great, fought the best, moved up 8 weight classes and won championships, avoided no one, came back from a a loss to put on the greatest comeback fights ever and won a championship again. Floyd, avoided his best challengers, fought safety first fights, suckered punched fighters, complained, cried and whined to the referees all the time.

Manny will be the ONLY one to say that he accomplished something so special in the sport of boxing that it is widely considereed the greatest individual athletic achievement of all time. 8 division championships. Floyd Mayweather might be able to say that he was unbeaten, something that’s already been accomplished, and that he couldn’t come close to winning 8 championship belts in 8 divisions.

The boxing world will know that Manny avoided no one, consistently asked Floyd to fight him, and Floyd refused because he was scared. End of story

Who will the boxing establishment say was the better fighter? Manny Pacquiao by a landslide. Winning 8 division championships is unequaled. The single greatest individual athletic achievement in the history of sports. Fighter Of The Decade, which by the way Floyd Mayweather was also in. Manny Pacquiao is the greatest fighter in boxing history.

Floyd Mayweather was a good fighter that his one fight, and that fight was to FEAR. Fear of fighting Manny “PacMan” Pacquiao.

Manny is the best!

Posted August 27, 2014 10:42 pm

Dario

Sorry, but you’re full of crap again.

Pac does voluntary full, randomized OSD testing for all his fights to the day of the fight, and pays $25,000.00 a bout it. He’s doing it for this fight as well.

He doesn’t have to do it. Almost no one does it. It just that he’ll do anything to get Floyd into a ring and kick his ass.

Posted August 27, 2014 10:37 pm

PEEJ

Sorry but Pac does not do dull testing until the fight. He only did it once against Rios and that was in China

Posted August 27, 2014 9:59 pm

Boxtradamus

And you don’t have to count on MY opinion. The Majority of EXPERTS agree with ME that Floyd is the BETTER Boxer and that’s why he is the Unanimous #1 rated Boxer on the Planet. Once Floyd retires lets SEE IF Manny is GOOD enough to take the baton and become #1 rated Boxer in the World at 38 yrs old like Floyd IS going to DO. IF he CAN then we can put him CLOSE to Floyd’s level. He’ll never reach Floyd’s level because he got knocked out by a guy that Floyd BLITZED. He’d have to knock Marquez out TWICE to remove that blemish. We all know that that ain’t happenin.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:51 pm

Boxtradamus

“Pacquiao KO’d Hatton in 2 rounds… stopped Oscar in 9 rounds… and stopped Cotto as well… Floyd couldn’t stop Oscar or Cotto, and took a long time to stop Hatton.

So against 3 of 4 mutual opponents, Pacman performed better than Floyd.”-SOUNDS GOOD. What most people don’t realize is that Floyd already SHATTERED Hatton’s punch resistance before Pacquiao faced him. They also don’t realize that Floyd had already beat the Championship caliber out of Oscar before Pacquiao got to him. Even MORE don’t realize that it took Pacquiao 12 rounds to stop Cotto with 8 oz gloves. Floyd almost stopped him in 12 rounds with 10 oz PILLOWS. SO when you add FACTS to your knowledge you’ll realize that Floyd actually DID the BETTER and more difficult work vs. common opponents.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:45 pm

NiNJa NiZZLe

Goodman, dont forget manny suffered another bone crushing KO defeat not so long ago that will be remembered forever LOL.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:04 pm

Goodman

This fool Hecdog says one is reaching the stars and the other is reaching the debths of emptiness…ok Floyd is worth over 200M. Pac owes 50M in back taxes. Floyd is own boss calls his own shots. Pac has to share his wealth with Bob Arum and listen to whatever he says. Floyd is single fuks any btch he wants. Pac is married and cheats on Jingee all the fukin time…You pick who is who? lol

Posted August 27, 2014 9:01 pm

NiNJa NiZZLe

hecdog do u have a youtube account by the name of ed sugue?

Posted August 27, 2014 8:58 pm

NiNJa NiZZLe

brza didnt pac say he doesnt fight for the money tho, so y wasnt 40 mill enough for him? considering hes doesnt really care about money like floyd does?

Posted August 27, 2014 8:51 pm

brza da originator

He should ve got more than 40 million because that was a wack offer . Do u guys not understand what im trying to say r are u just ignorin it to be haters .

Posted August 27, 2014 8:41 pm

STOP HECDOG

And get help

Posted August 27, 2014 8:38 pm

Hecdog

Two boxers with different paths and different ending. One is reaching the stars and the other is falling to depths of emptiness:
Boxing fans and humanity should be so thankful to have such a wonderful person and role model to families and society. Manny Pacquiao is a man that always exemplifies respect, honor, care, humility, love, adoration, sincerity and innocence. His character is as pure as white snow. He always gives thanks to God first and never use any type of profanity. This is a man that won 8 division titles, which has never been done. This is a man that has been showered by so many skills and abilities and he uses them to conquer every thing he attempts to do like singing, acting, coaching, modeling, boxing and many other things. Manny Pacquiao is who all of us want our kids to be like. He shows true character and leads by example. His quality as a person far surpasses his greatness in the ring if that is even possible. A beautiful father, son, husband and brother all wrapped up in one. Manny Pacquiao will be sorely missed when he leaves the squared circle for good. This is a good man in a tough and corrupt sport, but inside Manny Pacquiao there is no corruption only love for his fellow human being. As fight fans, we will miss his spectacular style of fighting. His smile and his cobra like speed and reflexes. What we will miss most is the charm and genuine personality that over took all of us. A man that we could trust and like. Manny Pacquiao, a man that reached for the stars and grasped them.
Floyd Mayweather is a fighter that no one will miss when he retires. His tarnished unbeaten record really means nothing in the eyes of real boxing fans. He has made a mockery of himself and the sport of boxing. His image as a human is an absolute embarrassment. 12 years of crime, threatening his own children as well as the mother of them. Look up his criminal record and you will know what kind of individual he really is. This man is a coward that boasts, brags, makes his money and materials his God and says racist comments about people. And some say this is just a put on to play the villain role. Sorry people, this is the devil dressed up in sheep’s clothing. He is an awful person that uses his money to buy friends and treats women like garbage. Why anyone would cheer this guy on is beyond belief. This is not a role model for anyone to aspire to be like. He is what we tell our children not to be. Forget his boxing, Floyd Mayweather’s image is an atrocity that follows him everywhere, and he continues to ridicule himself by saying that he messed around with TI’s girl. Just when you think he can’t stoop any lower, he does. The public is tired of him. Boxing is his chosen career, and he does have skills, but his inability do treat people right has ruined him. His image will stick with him throughout his entire life. As a fighter, the only thing he will be remembered for is ducking the great Manny Pacquiao.
Manny Pacquiao reached for the stars and fought the best of his time. All fight fans agree on this. He chose to take risks to become great, and he did. Floyd Mayweather on the other hand avoided fighting his biggest threat, and in the public’s eyes, he lost. He lost respect, which is the most important and honorable thing a fighter can lose. Floyd Mayweather has been sliding down hill for years, and today he’s journey to the depth of emptiness has arrived.

Posted August 27, 2014 8:09 pm

To all you stupid Floydiots

Pacquiao does full randomized OSDTing for ALL his fights, up to fight night.

He has no fear of needles. He has no problem giving blood samples. He had no problem conducting good faith negotiations to fight any welterweight in the world.

Floyd has been conducting sham negotiations, in bad faith, for 5 years, just to get free publicity. He’s finally admitted he doesn’t want to fight Manny Pacquiao.

Posted August 27, 2014 7:55 pm

Anonymous

Come on!! Is that it? No more excuses?? Just this short list??

Posted August 27, 2014 7:48 pm

FLOYD

1. I’m scared of needles but I have 20 tattoos.
2. Blood testing weakens me, it did against Morales.
3. I need to know the test dates even though it’s random.
4. I don’t decide who I fight’ have to talk to my promoter.
5. I need 50/50 even though i’m not the biggest draw.
6. We need to build a “GIANT ARENA” first that takes year.
7. 40M dollars isn’t enough but I’ll get KO’d by MM for 20M.
8. My promoter won’t work with Al Haymon.
9. I resigned for 2 year extension ‘ANYWAY’..
10. I need 21 days NO testing.
11. I need 14 days NO testing.
12. I don’t control who I fight it’s all up to my pimp Arum.

^+12

Posted August 27, 2014 10:47 pm 


Dario

Sorry, but you’re full of crap again.

Pac does voluntary full, randomized OSD testing for all his fights to the day of the fight, and pays $25,000.00 a bout it. He’s doing it for this fight as well.

He doesn’t have to do it. Almost no one does it. It just that he’ll do anything to get Floyd into a ring and kick his ass.

Posted August 27, 2014 10:37 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but Pac does not do dull testing until the fight. He only did it once against Rios and that was in China

Posted August 27, 2014 9:59 pm 


Boxtradamus

And you don’t have to count on MY opinion. The Majority of EXPERTS agree with ME that Floyd is the BETTER Boxer and that’s why he is the Unanimous #1 rated Boxer on the Planet. Once Floyd retires lets SEE IF Manny is GOOD enough to take the baton and become #1 rated Boxer in the World at 38 yrs old like Floyd IS going to DO. IF he CAN then we can put him CLOSE to Floyd’s level. He’ll never reach Floyd’s level because he got knocked out by a guy that Floyd BLITZED. He’d have to knock Marquez out TWICE to remove that blemish. We all know that that ain’t happenin.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:51 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Pacquiao KO’d Hatton in 2 rounds… stopped Oscar in 9 rounds… and stopped Cotto as well… Floyd couldn’t stop Oscar or Cotto, and took a long time to stop Hatton.

So against 3 of 4 mutual opponents, Pacman performed better than Floyd.”-SOUNDS GOOD. What most people don’t realize is that Floyd already SHATTERED Hatton’s punch resistance before Pacquiao faced him. They also don’t realize that Floyd had already beat the Championship caliber out of Oscar before Pacquiao got to him. Even MORE don’t realize that it took Pacquiao 12 rounds to stop Cotto with 8 oz gloves. Floyd almost stopped him in 12 rounds with 10 oz PILLOWS. SO when you add FACTS to your knowledge you’ll realize that Floyd actually DID the BETTER and more difficult work vs. common opponents.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:45 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

Goodman, dont forget manny suffered another bone crushing KO defeat not so long ago that will be remembered forever LOL.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:04 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

hecdog do u have a youtube account by the name of ed sugue?

Posted August 27, 2014 8:58 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

brza didnt pac say he doesnt fight for the money tho, so y wasnt 40 mill enough for him? considering hes doesnt really care about money like floyd does?

Posted August 27, 2014 8:51 pm 


brza da originator

He should ve got more than 40 million because that was a wack offer . Do u guys not understand what im trying to say r are u just ignorin it to be haters .

Posted August 27, 2014 8:41 pm 


STOP HECDOG

And get help

Posted August 27, 2014 8:38 pm 


To all you stupid Floydiots

Pacquiao does full randomized OSDTing for ALL his fights, up to fight night.

He has no fear of needles. He has no problem giving blood samples. He had no problem conducting good faith negotiations to fight any welterweight in the world.

Floyd has been conducting sham negotiations, in bad faith, for 5 years, just to get free publicity. He’s finally admitted he doesn’t want to fight Manny Pacquiao.

Posted August 27, 2014 7:55 pm 


FLOYD

1. I’m scared of needles but I have 20 tattoos.
2. Blood testing weakens me, it did against Morales.
3. I need to know the test dates even though it’s random.
4. I don’t decide who I fight’ have to talk to my promoter.
5. I need 50/50 even though i’m not the biggest draw.
6. We need to build a “GIANT ARENA” first that takes year.
7. 40M dollars isn’t enough but I’ll get KO’d by MM for 20M.
8. My promoter won’t work with Al Haymon.
9. I resigned for 2 year extension ‘ANYWAY’..
10. I need 21 days NO testing.
11. I need 14 days NO testing.
12. I don’t control who I fight it’s all up to my pimp Arum.

Posted August 27, 2014 7:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Algieri is not a good opponent or win worth credit for.. Saying he is “bigger” is weak… He’s taller and he has never done a damn thing worth discussing above 140 and only one thing worth discussing at that weight… Beating Provo via close S/D does not make him ready for Manny Pacquiao he’s a reall weak opponent..

Posted August 27, 2014 7:34 pm 


FLOYD

@Anonymous…Never heard of a slave making 300M dollars! Lol! Now go work at your Home depot Job! lol

Posted August 27, 2014 7:33 pm 


Love-the-Sport

This is a great article. Very good data. Very clever analysis.

Having said all of that …

Mayweather vs. Pacquaio fight should happen.

Even years after it should have happened … it would still be great for fans to see this fight.

I think the key to the fight would be the ring size.

Small ring, Mayweather vs. Pacquiao is a great, great, great fight. Very competitive. Anything could happen. Even money fight.

Big ring, Mayweather wins easily. Right hand leads. Duck and move. Right hand leads. Duck and move. Walk around the ring. Take up clock time. Right hand leads. Duck and move. Occasional exchange on the insight. Not much action.

In a big ring, there really is no fight. Mayweather wins because he is taller, he has more reach, he has wider stance. He can move in a big ring even if he is technically not “running” like Lara.

So, I want the fight to happen. But I want it to happen in a small ring. Otherwise, Mayweather wins easily.

Posted August 27, 2014 7:32 pm 


mansworld

brza da originator Manny should get more than 40 million because he has to split his money with Arum? Hell no its no ones Fault he is getting raped thats on him. No one should get more because they have to split it with someone else it dont work like that ass clown..

Posted August 27, 2014 7:26 pm 


FLOYD

@Anonymous…I don’t read well because I spent most my childhood in the gym, working on my craft preparing for the Olympics’ which is better then wasting time being articulate with my reading and writing so I can waste time on ESB! I rather make 70M-100M a year…ass wipe!

Posted August 27, 2014 7:20 pm 


teflon

brza da originator you my friend are a bioootch!!!

Posted August 27, 2014 7:19 pm 


brza da originator

Every other weltwr in the world would jump at the chance to fight pac for 100 million . Its a dream come true yada yada yada . Can u fools not see how stupid u sound 40 mill is like 20%n he had to pay arum his share Iit was nt a straight 40

Posted August 27, 2014 7:16 pm 


brza da originator

He was serious wit the offer u idiot but the offer was garbage . The fighters would split 200 million n pac gets 40 !!! At the time there ppv numbers were neck and neck and I actually think pac bested him in there previous bouts ppv ( not 100% on that fact ) .

Posted August 27, 2014 7:13 pm 


teflon

I dont know of any fighter who would not jump at the chance to fight Floyd, not to mention 40 million as well. Its a once in a lifetime chance a dream come true and Pac blew it. I know every welter weight out there would love to have the same offer Manny is a fool he turns down Floyd only to get KTFO by JMM the very next fight lol classic

Posted August 27, 2014 7:11 pm 


Loomis

Brza originator, you state floyd wasn’t serious in 40m offer ? why do you think pacman didn’t call floyds bluff ??? Why do you think , when floyd offered to pay Marquez 1m to step aside (Marquez agreed , would fight winner) why did pacman not call floyds bluff??? Why did roach when interviewed afterwards say he couldn’t have taken that fight cuz he needed a 6 month camp!!!! Yeah a 6 month camp!!!!. Floyd called on pacman to step up to the plate on sky sports , why did pacman not call his bluff??? And that’s not to mention the various excuses pacman made about scared of needles, sight of blood scares him , it was against his religion, he was superstitious etc…… So in your analysis it was all floyds fault the fight didn’t take place???

Posted August 27, 2014 7:03 pm 


PEEJ

Also Tark Pac doesn’t make 20 mil each fight.

Posted August 27, 2014 7:01 pm 


PEEJ

Yeah Tark has no clue what he is talking about. The first time they negotiated was the closest they came to making the fight. After that there has not been anything close to making the fight. He has not seen any contracts or anything.

Posted August 27, 2014 7:00 pm 


poor pacturds

TARK you sound like you was there when the contract was sent over STFU Floyd is rich beyond belief and Manny is broke and washed up. Fck Manny you nutt hugger he is irrelevant and his fight agaisnt Algieri is a joke. Hell Floyd made 70 million fighing Miadana what does Manny make? Just enough to keep the IRS off his ass, I heard they are taking his whole purse from every fight lol He is done. And I bet he wished he has taken the 40 million now that his career is over. Manny is the reason the fight couldnt happen no one told him to sign with Arum or get KTFO by a bum Marquez

Posted August 27, 2014 6:58 pm 


FLOYD

Tark shut the that enormous hole in your face’ I talked to Pacquiao on the phone and he said no to the offer. We were going to wire him 20M to get the ball rolling. We would negotiate the ppv buys later. You don’t know the difference between your ass and a hole in the ground.

Posted August 27, 2014 6:56 pm 


Anonymous

Please name one good fighter Manny beat in the last 3 years ? And if you say Tim Bradley kill yourself classic lol

Posted August 27, 2014 6:53 pm 


TARK

There was no offer of 40MM… You need a contract with that number and none was ever produced. It was just talk.

They reached agreement a couple times in actual contact discussions… When they did Floyd went AWOL.

Floyd was milking the negotiations for publicity… He never had ANY intentions of fighting Pacquiao for real, and that became obvious last year.

Posted August 27, 2014 6:52 pm 


PAC

Please don’t bring up Erick Morales! He made me cry that night…first time I cried since my daddy walked out on me my mom. Lol!!!!

Posted August 27, 2014 6:51 pm 


poor pacturds

brza da originator if you think 40 mil is a joke your mama is a joke for having you. 40 million always will be a lot of money it was then and is now. Hell Manny will never make that fighting anyone else. Better yet name one boxer that would turn 40 million and a chance to fight Floyd down?? Manny was afraid of needles as well but he has tatoos lol fck Manny

Posted August 27, 2014 6:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, you knock Marquez for a comeback fight after losing on points to Bradley… Yet you are clapping for Rios and Algieri? We know Manny makes way more cash than Marquez that still could not buy him back the years JMM likely took off his life with that shot.. Again Manny is Great, but and OLD Marquez was too much for him..

Posted August 27, 2014 6:50 pm 


pactards r us

Tark

And the kind of people PAC loses to
Marquez,Morales and Bradley and what are the other BUMz names.

Let me guess it doesn’t count because it was early in his career.

Posted August 27, 2014 6:47 pm 


Ok

TARK you poor pactard Manny really lost the 3rd fight against Marquez as well but the judges gave it to him in hopes of landing a fight with Floyd. Marquez didnt get lucky he knocked Manny down twice the 4th fight. You tards always make excuses for pacroid face it he is not that good. And not she without roids. Marquez owns Manny and if they fight again it will be the same results. Manny eats counters and JMM timed him coming in and lights out. Manny is washed up he will never be considerd the best name one good fighter in the last 3 years he beat? And if you say Tim Bradley kill yourself

Posted August 27, 2014 6:47 pm 


PAC

Dammit! I should have took that 40M. I would’ve of made and extra 20M and my wife wouldn’t of been crying in the audience, over me being sleep on the canvas. Oh well…”you live you learn”.

Posted August 27, 2014 6:45 pm 


brza da originator

Theres no way im taking time outta my life to explain to u dumbos why 40 mill back then was a joke . U either know it was garbage or ur dumb enough to think it was a good offer (if its this reason id like to give u guys props for bein able to read n write ) either way its not worth my time

Posted August 27, 2014 6:42 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao is so lightly regarded as World Champion that he makes 20 million dollars a fight at the very least.

Everybody knows Marquez landed a lucky punch and is trailing in the Pac series

Marquez loses to guys like Bradley every time he steps up.. Pacquiao easily beats the Tim Bradley’s of the world, no problem.. Now he’s planning his fight for a much bigger, taller, stronger, and smarter guy.

Posted August 27, 2014 6:40 pm 


PAC

Hi! Everybody! Let me introduce myself…My name is Manny Pacquiao. SnoozeZZZZZZZZZZZZZ! lol

Posted August 27, 2014 6:38 pm 


pactards r us

All of PACs achievements are so YESTERDAY…

FMJ overachieving as usual…

HATERS well…..still HATING!!!

Posted August 27, 2014 6:36 pm 


FLOYD

brza…STFU! Well if 40M wasn’t enough why did your boyfriend take 20M to get put to sleep on the canvas. SnoringZZZZZZZZZZLOL!!!!

Posted August 27, 2014 6:35 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, PAC has the lightly regarded WBO strap meanwhile Marquez has his scalp and about 1/4 of his brains in a trophy case… I suppose you would argue that Manny was the better man last fight? And that he took a year off to celebrate getting KNOCKED Cold?? HAHAHAHHAHHA!

Posted August 27, 2014 6:32 pm 


FLOYD

@Bobkins…Tell your boyfriend Pacquiao next time I give him a opportunity to pay his taxes. Don’t bullsht me with the testing. The fight has to be clean!

Posted August 27, 2014 6:31 pm 


brza da originator

U better hope ur never stood in front of me u submissive punk biatch cos I will take all my aggression out on ur scrub self . Pathetic making excuses for there favorite fighter not bein part of the biggest fight in history . 40 million is a joke scrub he made that offer cos he knew it wud get rejected . I own all u fanboys cos I hereo worship no fighter just deal in facts n rational based in the sport I love and if that was nt enough on top of all that my intellect compared to urs is like comparing Pacs heart to floyds . Gtfoh u puto

Posted August 27, 2014 6:23 pm 


Ok

brza da originator stop you crying fck Manny he is irrelevant no one even buys his fights anymore moron. Ask his Jew Master why the fight couldnt happen. Pacroid wont blood test or accpet 40 million.

Posted August 27, 2014 6:15 pm 


brza da originator

F**k that . Take a arep back and look at it rationally . The reasons this fight did nt happen r not acceptible . Why r supposed boxing fans makin excuses for it not happwning

Posted August 27, 2014 5:45 pm 


DELK1

REALJEWNOTLIES, I could not have said it any better. Thank you SIR.

Posted August 27, 2014 5:36 pm 


TARK

Stupid says “after Pac was SMUSHED”

The guy who smushed Pac is trying to get a Welterweight Title… Pacquiao HAS the Welterweight Title Marquez couldn’t win off off Bradley — but Pacquiao easily won.

Pacquiao is making 20 million a fight, while Marquez is fighting schumpy has beens like Alvarado — after Alvarado got beaten up very badly and stopped by Provodnikov..

The very same Provovnikov that Algieri beat to earn his Pacquiao fight.

So the SMUSHED is doing a lot better than the SMUSHER

Posted August 27, 2014 5:12 pm 


Pac Fans

“If he finally fights PAC will all you haters STFU”

Then shut us up and fight PACQUIAO!!! LOL

NOT going to happen in this century.

Posted August 27, 2014 5:00 pm 


SREDMOND

F@G Aficionado, some of us recognize this bout as stale dated and are not even seeing Pac Man as this massive threat after he was SMUSHED… We all know the fight would make $$$$$ but much of the intrigue is GONE courtesy of Marquez right hand and Pac Man taking a rehab bout against Rios coming off a loss, rematching Bradley who despite his talent cannot stop anyone and had already lost in the eyes of most and NOW facing a nobody like lanky Algieri…. Time has moved on your should consider doing the same…

Posted August 27, 2014 4:50 pm 


SREDMOND

Ok Popkins so you don’t want to see the bout so what are you talking about? again you concede or tell us that Manny could not hang with Mayweather sustained Greatness even though he is younger and facing guys in a weight class that Manny NEVER truly boxed in please don’t bore me with that fight at 150 against Margarito who was a nobody at 154…

Posted August 27, 2014 4:47 pm 


te tumbo

Btw, what credible news source is reporting complete agreement from Team Pacquiao*? that challenge alone typically derails any and every defense or excuse on behalf of Punkuiao* not SIGNING to face Floyd and at this point, what’s in it for Mayweather? particularly if he wins in predictably lopsided fashion? Napman* is damaged goods. little to nothing to gain from a win v. Pacquiao*.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:45 pm 


te tumbo

“Manny Pacquiao has agreed to take ANY TEST FLOYD WANTS..” In WRITING? otherwise, Team PUNKuiao* talks out of both sides of their mouths. saying they agree to any testing conditions then splitting c*nt-hairs at the negotiating table with “well, we didn’t mean up until the day of the fight or including the actual day of the fight and what’s wrong with a 14-day cutoff? or 7-day cutoff? or . . .” Zero faith should be placed on anything that Team Punkuiao* says. actions speak louder than words, i.e., Sign On the Dotted Line Already!?! and WTF was there to negotiate or haggle over in the first place?!?

Posted August 27, 2014 4:42 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Why Floyd nut huggers continue finding reasons for the biggest fight in boxing not happening is mystifying.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:39 pm 


Popkins

Lewis crushed Tyson but it meant virtually nothing. Lewis was older but still at the top of his game. Mike was only in his mid 30’s but was a shadow of the 80’s version. … Floyd/PAC is a money spinner but unfortunately proves very little else these days. Too late……. .

Posted August 27, 2014 4:38 pm 


Fight Aficionado

“That “refused to take a blood test” cr*p is so yesterday. As of RIGHT NOW ( which is what counts) Manny Pacquiao has agreed to take ANY TEST FLOYD WANTS..and Floyd now has a new excuse ..” I won’t work with Bob Arum” – Moe Green is correct. Pac signed off on all drug testing issues years ago. Why Floyd nut huggers continue finding reasons for the biggest fight in boxing to happen is mystifying. Any real fan of the sport wants to see it. That marks one of the differences between fans of boxing and fans of Floyd.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:37 pm 


SREDMOND

If somehow Pac and Mayweather fight the result will be fraught with excuses because both guys are getting to be old as dirt in the sport of boxing… I would pay $100 to see it on Cable but its simply NOT the same bout it would have been from a fan perspective… Manny did not hold up his aura, he was badly knocked out and that’s something that is HARD to forget…

Posted August 27, 2014 4:37 pm 


pactards r us

If he finally fights PAC will all you haters STFU then.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins, trying to sell “Manny in decline” when he is facing a man that is measurably older and less athletic than him is simply a JOKE… Marquez is a war torn vet who has been on the deck MORE than Pac over the years… he was down against Manny, Barrera, Mayweather, Katsidis and others yet he ALWAYS gets up (Alvarado got a taste) as for Manny stopping him that’s just another fantasy because like Holyfield at his best Marquez can recover and he knows how to fight hurt… The punch he hit Manny with was a STRAIGHT shot, perfectly timed… Yeah JMM was hurt but NOT badly enough that he missed that opening that leveled Pacquiao…Floyd would be a big favorite and why is that? Because Mayweather is technically a better, and smarter fighter than the Great Manny Pacquiao who is 2 years younger than FMJ… Floyd did not let JMM or anyone else for that matter dent his chin…

Posted August 27, 2014 4:25 pm 


Bopkins

Pacman clearly in decline???

Then WHY is Floyd scared SHlTLESS — if Pac is such an easy fight, stop with all the Hatton’s.. Ortiz’s.. Guerrero’s.. and Maidana’s..

Sign to fight Pacman — and break the bank.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:21 pm 


Anonymous

Depends how you were scoring it.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:21 pm 


Popkins

Manny ain’t what he was back in 2008-09. Even 2010. Back then it was a 50/50 fight IMO. Now Floyd wud b a massive favourite. … As for JMM finally getting his big win over Pacman. Sure he deserves credit. But let’s not forget, PAC was clearly in decline as a fighter, but nevertheless, Manny was still winning the fight and on the verge of stopping Juan himself.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:15 pm 


Anonymous

Marquez KO over pacquiao counts for at least 5.

Posted August 27, 2014 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins, I have no issue with them fighting but selling Pac Man as unbeatable and the clear antidote to the “MayVinci” code is an unsustainable dream given what we have seen the past few years… Maidana with his size, brawn, power and awkwardness offer more of a challenge than Manny at 5″6 eating Mayweather jabs and getting countered as he trys to stutter step and close distance… Pac Man is one of my favorite fighters, he is an ATG, but he has also fallen behind Mayweather as the years wore on and he is benefiting from diminished expectations… Beating Rios, Bradley AGAIN and now getting in with a soft touch like Algieri are acceptable wins for him whereas SO MUCH more is expected and produced by Money May…

Posted August 27, 2014 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins, Manny is up in their series but a draw is a neutral result as we both know… That said these guys could NEVER produce a fight where one was clearly better than the other… Any reasonable person could have seen one of the wins that went to Pac being awarded to Marquez but history is history… That said the sight of Marquez standing triumphant while Manny was motionless trumps the collective results of their other battles… Again Pac is up in the series but knocking a man out is the ultimate domination… Especially in that manner

Posted August 27, 2014 4:04 pm 


Popkins

Bradley comfortably outboxed JMM. Manny schooled Bradley. So this talk that Floyd beating Marquez proves he wud beat Pacman is nonsense.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:58 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins you are WRONG, because Mayweather is his own Boss he did not have to line the pockets of his HATED former employer BoB Arum.. You absolve Pacquiao of all responsibility for making the fight because he is servile and deferential during interviews but he wields power in boxing along with Mayweather especially at his peak… Politics tanked this bout but it does not just rest all in Floyds lap… Mannys style is NOT all wrong for Floyd, the blueprint is pretty clear and Mayweather knows that… He is simply prouder than you guys imagine and wanted to stick it to Arum and basically starve his Superstar out of boxing and sadly it has begun to work… Where is Manny now? BOMBING ON PPV against Rios, doing rematches and about to followup that Bomb with another against Algieri who would NOT have gotten this shot 3 years ago when Manny did not need a spatula to get him off the canvas…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:58 pm 


Popkins

Sredmond… FYI Pacman is 2:1 up against with JMM, with one draw.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins, Marquez has fought 3 of the Best WW’s in the World, he had a competitive S/D loss against Bradley, he had a SUPER debated M/D loss against Manny and he has a BONE CRUSHING KO win against Manny… Against Floyd he lost 12 rounds in the same weight class as these other 2… Marquez wanted rematches with Bradley and Pacquiao he does not even want to be on the same card as Floyd… The gap in outcome is too Great Mayweather is simply on ANOTHER level at all times…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:53 pm 


Popkins

Mayweather is the richest sportsman on the planet and he’s his own boss. A fight with Pacman wud hav been the biggest in boxing history, and one in which Floyd wud hav had advantages in height, reach, and weight, and he’d hav been in his own country for the fight too! What more does he want! Mayweather could have forced the fight to happen. He didn’t want it. Why? Probably coz he thought Manny’s style was all wrong for him and that there was a good chance he wud lose. Ah well, it ain’t 2009 any more. Pacquiao ain’t the same fighter no more.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Popkins, Pac Man has standing that JMM does not but at the end of the day in a head to head battle the man who ended up on top of the pile is Marquez at 39… Marquez is a 3 weight Champion aspiring to 4, so he is NOT gonna be regarded as a slouch by any standards and is a first Ballot HOFER verging on ATG….The man can fight and Manny looking to face him again in 2015 when Marquez will be 41 and change only tells you how much of Pac Mans number that the Old Mexican has…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:51 pm 


pactards r us

Marquez will be known as the”MAN” for kicking PACs a$$.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:42 pm 


Popkins

Norton gave Ali nightmares in their fights, but is Norton regarded as the greater fighter? Hell no. JMM will always be rated lower than Pacman wen it comes to all time standing. . . .

Posted August 27, 2014 3:38 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond if may fought morales at his best weight n beat him that would be by a mile his best win . Remember they were around each other for a while

Posted August 27, 2014 3:35 pm 


pactards r us

Hell these PACtards want FMJ to lose so bad they’re going to want him go up to HEAVYWEIGHT..LOL

TBE FMJ

Posted August 27, 2014 3:34 pm 


Popkins

Mayweather v Marquez was a Welterweight facing a Lightweight. Both guys are great counter punchers. Floyd is a supreme talent, but regardless, a good big un beats a good little un.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:33 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

REM

Thurmal Underwear after you pull your panties out of your a$$ go look at the power punch connect rate for Floyd’s fights with Corley and Judah. Or better yet watch the fights and learn something.

^look at his undefeated record you fv cking clown. keep reaching loser.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:32 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond I was gonba stay outra thistthread but I got to get back in . I don t want any novices bein turned by misinformation . U do have boxing knowledge as a fan but u obviously know nothing about making weight as a fighter . Jumping two weight classes is huge . Not one boxing expert gave Marquez a prayer in that fight . And no not just because it was floyd . Manny was a huge underdog against oscar in the same scenario . And oscar couldnt rehydrate Floyd could and if I remember he refusrd to be weighed on fight night . Who knows what he weighed definately north of 150. U have to climatise to a weight n u dont have a prayer against the p4p no l if ur jumpin two weights to fight him . I see u do the weight thing wit Alvarez too saying whats two pounds ? Its massive if all ur body fat is gone n u have to start losing muscle n no it don t matter what u rehydrate too 24 hrs later thats all water it takes probably 5days to get ur strenght back . Btw I dont give manny much credit for the oscar win . He was a ghost . I have no issue wit ur boxing knowledge but u have no clue about weights . Would Floyd beat thst version of jmm if they fought at 140 ? Yes in a way better fight . Would Floyd beat saul @154 ? Yes but taking at least as much punishment as the marcos fight . But Floyd made them non starters because of the weight . I will give u an example of the task that was in jmm hands that night . It eould be the same as canelo wit 3months notice jjumping up to 168 to try n beat dre ward. Btw canelos at 154 way longer than jmm was at 135

Posted August 27, 2014 3:30 pm 


te tumbo

Marquez is simply NOT a 147lb welter. he looked a solid notch smaller overall than Bradley who is not a big welter himself. in fact, Marquez looks a solid-notch smaller overall compared every welter except for fellow feather-welter Manny*. otherwise, Marquez struggles to consistently tag 147lb opponents with his little crocodile arms. even technically-superior and ring-smart ATG like Mayweather would be a relatively easy opponent for Ward who himself is not the biggest 168lbr. size matters.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:27 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, Marquez was 39 when he destroyed Manny and he is discussing retirement.. Floyd faced Marquez when he was 35 and JMM has not gotten technically better he was simply way out of his league against FMJ who is technically superior to Manny who makes a boatload of mistakes that have gotten him 4 legit losses and 2 draws whereas Mayweather would have defeated ANY fighter that beat Manny with EASE… OOOOOOOPS he did beat Marquez with ease.. NO speculation necessary… As far as power Manny has not had a stoppage in what 4 or 5 years? Cotto and Canelo each have put guys out in that span and this is at 154 and above, Margo, Foreman, Rodriguez and Martinez all did not finish against Cotto… Canelo stopped Angulo, Lopez and others… Again these are guys that walk around FAR heavier than little Pac Man who might get some dudes out at 140 but at 147 his power game is GONE….

Posted August 27, 2014 3:20 pm 


Anonymous

SirRed great great post.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Cotto and Canelo have proven they can put BIGGER fighters down Cotto just knocked out the MW Champion of the World weighing 155 pounds… Mannys power would be that of an ant at 154, the guy cannot bang at 147 he certainly is not gonna have much effect on guys beyond that weight…Manny beating a SHOT Mosley that Mayweather had schooled when his name still carried some weight is a poor testament to what is really going on with Pac Man… At 130-135 Pac Man was laying guys flat, above that weight he came in looking as powerful but quickly showed that he was a guy who was gonna win via points just like Floyd…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:16 pm 


REM

SRed how can you possibly argue that Pac didn’t fight a better version of Marquez. And that guys like Cotto and Canelo hit harder than Pac when the tapes tell a much different story. Dude right now your selling dummies on the corner.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:14 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

i agree @SRED.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:12 pm 


SREDMOND

REM, between them at 140 and above Canelo, Maidana and Cotto have how many stoppages? over 90, at least 30 apiece at the weight… Manny has 1KO at 140, a TKO 8 rounds and a TKO 12 rounds… He is NOT a finisher he is NOT a danger to stop almost any solid WW except maybe Algieri who is NOT even a World Class opponent in the true sense of the word… Numbers don’t lie that’s why Koncz and Roach don’t want Pac Man fighting above 150 he cannot keep guys honest anymore…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Pacquiaos victory over Hatton is NOT superior to Mayweathers because Floyd fought him FIRST, took his 0 and knocked him out… Hatton said that being outclassed like that hurt him more than Pac Man braining him… We had already seen Hatton on the canvas by then courtesy of Floyd Mayweather who had already taken his virginity… I give Manny credit for beating the hell out of Oscar but Floyd took him FIRST while coming up to the weight that Oscar had boxed at for many years… AGAIN FMJ got the win FIRST and that cannot be denied…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:08 pm 


REM

How can the pressure theory be as viable as the speedy southpaw theory when speedy southpaws have landed hard, telling headshots on Floyd. Has any pressure fighter done that. And oh boy aren’t we reaching when we say Cotto, Canelo and Chino have 2xs the punching power Pac has. Only Chino is in Pacs class power wise. Niether Cotto nor Canelo have proven they have anything more than a solid punch but their power scares no one. Just ask Mosley.

Posted August 27, 2014 3:08 pm 


SREDMOND

These are excuses “it was Marquez first trip to the weight” it was Floyds when he beat Oscar, and Gatti get with the program.. Manny beat ODH after jumping 2 weight classes, fact is that Marquez was out of his league and he STILL never mentioned wanting a rematch because he did not like looking like a fool…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:03 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez was 144 when he boxed Manny to a standstill in the 3rd bout… Weight had nothing to do with Floyds utter domination of Juan Manuel this was not a close bout Marquez was completely outclassed which is hard to say because he is one of my favorite fighters operating today.. He was NOT weak, JMM simply could not keep up with Floyd technically he was too slow, too inaccurate and too easy to hit…

Posted August 27, 2014 3:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez was NOT better when he faced Pacquiao that’s crazy… ONLY OLDER…. JMM has the same technical skills that he always has and his accumulated insight into Pac Mans bad habits from 3 prior bouts allowed him to catch Manny with a death blow while rushing in….If Mayweather got knocked out by a 39 year old Pac Man he would be laughed off the planet…

Posted August 27, 2014 2:59 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

REM, i dont believe pac hits harder than cotto, mosley, maidana or alvarez. we’ll have to agree to disagree on that 1. if we’re taking facts all of them have higher KO% than pac.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:54 pm 


REM

Floyd fans please stop embarrassing yourselfs referencing the Floyd v Marquez matchup. Pac fought a much better Marquez than Floyd fought. Again this is like me using how they both fared against Oscar as a barometer.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:49 pm 


REM

Thurmal Underwear after you pull your panties out of your a$$ go look at the power punch connect rate for Floyd’s fights with Corley and Judah. Or better yet watch the fights and learn something.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:33 pm 


TARK

Marquez was weak and undersized when he fought Floyd…

You see, Marquez expected Floyd to weigh 144… Floyd paid Marquez 600,000 dollars to weigh 146… If Marquez DOESN’T take the extra $600,000.00, and the fight, he gets NOTHING!!!

Marquez was a fully developed welterweight for his last 2 fights with Pacquiao – and much stronger than he was for Mayweather.

Pacquiao KO’d Hatton in 2 rounds… stopped Oscar in 9 rounds… and stopped Cotto as well… Floyd couldn’t stop Oscar or Cotto, and took a long time to stop Hatton.

So against 3 of 4 mutual opponents, Pacman performed better than Floyd.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:30 pm 


REM

Ninja just look at when Mosley fought Cotto what damage they did to each other then look at what Pac did to both of them. Who showed more power against Mosley Canelo or Pac. Chino is in Pacs league power wise but he’s a gatekeeper level fighter without the skills to detonate that power like Pac.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:29 pm 


DELK1

THIRD WORLD said:blacks will back mayweather to the death, no matter what.

Wrong, I’m black and all of my friends hate the money man. Now they do acknowledge that he is a great fighter, but THEY don’t like him and would love for Manny to knock his a– all the way back to Michigan. LOL

Posted August 27, 2014 2:26 pm 


Anonymous

sick of hearing about this, they should both piss off out of boxing.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:17 pm 


ed

But what you’re intentionally over looking is the fact that JMM had never fought at 147. His first venture into this division was against Floyd….but it was a catchweight fight. Neither did JMM fight at 147 nor Floyd meet JMM at his weight, so there obvious discrepancies in tems of advantage. No in their right mind one can say that JMM had any possible chance to beat Floyd given the circumstances under which JMM fought. To say it was compelling or even challenging is an over statement.

Posted August 27, 2014 2:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Mayweather was 146 at weigh in the night he faced Marquez who booked his BIGGEST career win against Manny 4 years later at 147… AGAIN there is no accounting for how Floyd can take 12 rounds off a fighter as talented as Marquez EXCEPT to say that man Mayweather is really THAT much better whereas Manny was knocked cold by this guy…

Posted August 27, 2014 1:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Cotto just won the MW Title he was undefeated at 154 till Floyd Mayweather beat him and Floyd was the OLDER fighter by 4 years… Mosley was coming off one of his BIGGEST wins and was ranked what #3 at WW when Mayweather also in his 30’s took Sugar Shane to school… Floyd is gonna be 38 and still rope a doping fresh young talent ie Maidana, Guerrero and Canelo….Keep the excuses coming

Posted August 27, 2014 1:55 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao’s best PPV # was 1.4 million vs Oscar. This is an incomplete article.

Pacquiao was an underdog v Oscar—which blows this pundit’s theory.

By this pundit’s premise… Pacquiao fans would not necessarily show up for a Mayweather fight because Pac has a better chance of losing than his other PPV fights… and Floyd haters would show up in droves to see Floyd get beaten.

That’s a bad read on what’s happening with PPV sales.

The bigger and more popular names drive PPV sales. Most fans are not that concerned about the odds – and most fans actually like Floyd Mayweather Jr. The haters are very vociferous and Floyd’s fans don’t necessarily spend their time on ESB.

Holyfield was a massive underdog to Tyson, and the PPV broke all records… The public perception was it was going to be an explosive and brutal fight. Holyfield KO’d Buster Douglas with one shot and Douglas smashed Tyson from pillar to post. The odds were screwy as they sometimes are. Extremely popular fighters drive odds screwy.

Lewis-Tyson broke all records again. It’s basically the popularity and notoriety of the boxers, like I said. Tyson was bound to take a huge beating—but his fans showed up—in the fervent hope Mike could pull off a miracle. Fans even showed up for Tyson’s last 2 fights against 2nd raters … where Mike didn’t put up much of an effort.

People love Tyson anyway. The fans loved Dempsey too. They didn’t like the sophisticated and articulate Tunney … and that didn’t change when Tunney boxed people’s asses off. Tex Rickard lost a fortune on Tunney’s last fight… Tunney was only 31, but he quit.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:55 pm 


ed

Man, please. Floyd has fought elite fighters who were way past their prime. For example, Cotto, DLH, Mosely to name a few. All these fighters will go to the HOF but Floyd didn’t beat them in their prime, so he can’t take too much credit for that. He also fought JMM, who went up from 135 to fight Floyd at 147. Problem was though, Floyd reneged on his contract and came in above weight for JMM who came in at what, 143. That’s nothing to write home about. That’s not what a true champ does. True champs seek out the best and do insist they leave their promoter, change their religion or whatever other crazy idea they think of. They simply want to be challenged by the best, elite and fighters in their prime. Floyd has never ever fought an elite fighter who was in his prime. He’s actually an excuse for a boxer, a true smoke and mirrors type of man.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:48 pm 


Moe Green

PeeJ..
That “refused to take a blood test” cr*p is so yesterday. As of RIGHT NOW ( which is what counts) Manny Pacquiao has agreed to take ANY TEST FLOYD WANTS..and Floyd now has a new excuse ..” I won’t work with Bob Arum” ( I guess Cotto is the exception…I wonder why? Could it be that he knows he can beat Cotto…Manny on the other hand , he’s not so sure) this excuse after excuse means only one thing. Floyd is scared of Manny. But IMO it’s more scared to lose his ” O” against Manny. Of all people he would want to kill himself if he lost to his arch enemy Pacquiao.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:46 pm 


SREDMOND

The “speedy southpaw” angle is about as viable as the pressure angle… Mayweather finds a way to WIN …… This is a 4 dimensional fighter the likes of which we will NOT see again for a LONG time… The only thing that Mayweather is in danger from his old age… His technical prowess cannot be denied nor undermined… He has avoided more punches than the Great Pac Man has landed in his career… Manny is a boss but even Tim Bradley was half ringing his bell that last bout and Roach said that Manny looked SLOW… Pac is stronger than Bradley so he wore him down (Good win for Pac Man) but Bradley can’t punch worth a damn so Pac was relatively safe…He is in again with another anemic puncher (Algieri) and its apparent that he is being looked after at this point while Floyd faces bombers at 147 and 154 that don’t need 15 clean shots to take you out….

Posted August 27, 2014 1:45 pm 


SREDMOND

Man please Mayweather is 3x the fighter that Marquez is and Freddy Roaches opinion of his own fighter is dubious at best…He has predicted 6 KO’s in a row that never materialized UNLESS you count Manny starring in the Marquez directed Short Film “KTFO” where the movie ends with Manny motionless on the canvas trying to say “my head hurts” in Tagalog… Pac Man is MORE physically fragile than Manny he got knocked down TWICE by a 39 year old fighter who has enjoyed no success at 147 besides making Pac Man look BAD in the 3rd fight and slaughtering him in the 4th… Floyd is in with guys like Cotto, Maidana and Canelo who hit at least 2x harder than Manny and he has NOT left his feet nor lost a bout… Pac is a GREAT fighter but he is a second class citizen when positioned against Mayweather who made his arch nemesis (Marquez) his light work after 21 months of food, hoes and travel…

Posted August 27, 2014 1:40 pm 


PEEJ

I mean coming up with excuses on why not to take random testing and you say Floyd is scared. Why is that? Why is it that all these boxers talk about random testing and wanting it to be done in their fights but when it comes to Pac and him declining to take random testing that equals Floyd being scared.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:34 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

@Thurmal Underwear lol, good point. but even with them i doubt he hits as hard as those beasts.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:30 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

NiNJa NiZZLe

REM, mosley and cotto both started out at higher weight classes than floyd did. theyre supposed to hit harder than him and pacquiao together. do u honestly believe pacquiao hits harder than say mosley, cotto, alvarez or maidana at 147?

^depends: with or without steroids?

Posted August 27, 2014 1:27 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

REM

Both Roach and i are in agreement that Floyd would be an easier fight than Marquez for Pac. Fragile Floyd isn’t durable enough to deal with Pac. Its not like Pac will have a problem hitting Floyd just like everyone else but Floyd isn’t built to deal with it like Marquez is. You touch Floyd he bleeds and wobbles just ask guys like Mosley and Cotto.

^seriously. floyd gets hit like 30% of the time. he’s the least hit fighter ever retard (peep compubox history). floyd has never been knocked down. not one single time. he dusted jmm coming off a 2 year hiatus. jmm damn near sent manny to the grim reaper. both you and roach are a couple of bumbling retards.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:22 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

REM, mosley and cotto both started out at higher weight classes than floyd did. theyre supposed to hit harder than him and pacquiao together. do u honestly believe pacquiao hits harder than say mosley, cotto, alvarez or maidana at 147?

Posted August 27, 2014 1:09 pm 


REM

Both Roach and i are in agreement that Floyd would be an easier fight than Marquez for Pac. Fragile Floyd isn’t durable enough to deal with Pac. Its not like Pac will have a problem hitting Floyd just like everyone else but Floyd isn’t built to deal with it like Marquez is. You touch Floyd he bleeds and wobbles just ask guys like Mosley and Cotto.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:07 pm 


REM

Who at ww could come close to giving Floyd the kind of problems Pac can give him. Its been proven time and again that speedy southpaws are the best equipped to land clean, hard shots on Floyd. Even at jmw only Lara would give Floyd the kind of problems he’d have with Pac because of odvious reasons. Again Floyd hasn’t fought anything close to Pac so to say how Floyd would handle him doesn’t fly. Its clear as day that Floyd and his team see something in Pac to designate him the one to stay away from. Its even reasonable to assume Floyd wanted a weight advantage against Marquez simply because of how well he fought Pac. Certainly gives credibility to theory that Floyds scared ishless of Pac.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Braza, I would certainly like to see the bout but I have long since accepted that the politics won’t allow it to happen and it is well off of its peak as a hardcore fan… These guys are both REALLY close to retiring or being retired.. It might create more questions than answers depending on the result.. I think boxing needs to cease the myopia and allow these younger boxers to vet themselves then come up the ranks… I understand guys being fixated on this bout because of the attention it would create but to me the moment has passed..

Posted August 27, 2014 12:57 pm 


NiNJa NiZZLe

Col, floyd will have to fight khan soon, khan is his WBC mandatory. we all know how floyd loves the WBC, expect that fight to happen. my guess is it will be his next fight.

Posted August 27, 2014 12:57 pm 


brza da originator

Sredmond I know ur a big mayweather fan n u certainly seem to not be as irational as some of these other fans of his who just spout the same garbage again n again . And I know by ur knowledge of the game u love this sport . Im assuming u read my post earlier about what this event could do for our sport . So I got 2 questions for U . Would u like to see the fight and if u held sway wit Floyd wud u encourage him to take the fight

Posted August 27, 2014 12:48 pm 


dontplayyourself

*HELL* .stupid spell check…

Posted August 27, 2014 12:40 pm 


dontplayyourself

@REALJEW poverty in the Us and poverty in 3rd World Like Philippines is not even close. 3rd world poverty is HE’LL!!!

Posted August 27, 2014 12:39 pm 


SREDMOND

There are fighters that would pose more difficulty than Manny for Floyd.. FMJ has acclimated to dealing with bigger and more powerful boxer than PacMan who he would easily jab to death, force to overextend and cruelly counter when he did… I watched Manny against Bradley and he was overextending big time trying to land, Pac is not as accurate as he once was…. Manny can still beat most around but Mayweather is just too smart for this little fighter to come in flailing with a pawing jab and average power at best…It would be a rout, Mayweather would lose no more than 4 rounds and everyone would swear that Manny was Father Xmas and just too old to bang with a guy 2 years older than him…

Posted August 27, 2014 12:38 pm 


PEEJ

Well I think Khan gets stopped. To chinny and is open to the hook. Which Floyd lands constantly on anybody. As for Pac, he has no defense and is terrible against counter punchers and boxers. Which Floyd is great at both. I think he handles Pac something like 9 rounds to 3. If this was 2010, it would be a clean sweep.

Posted August 27, 2014 12:21 pm 


BOXING MACHINE

he lied about Pac ppc #’s most of them have never even been released

Posted August 27, 2014 12:08 pm 


Col

Peej – good point but thats how I think it will go down. Both Pacquiao and Khan have styles that are so wrong for Mayweather, and he knows it. Don’t expect him to fight either of them – ever.

Posted August 27, 2014 12:05 pm 


PEEJ

You do realize when Tony fought him he was already shot and has been shot for many years right. That is like saying you want a blue print, just watch Ali vs Holmes.

Posted August 27, 2014 11:48 am 


Anonymous

who Give”s a Shi#.

Posted August 27, 2014 11:37 am 


Col

If anyone is wondering how Pacquiao vs Mayweather would go, just watch Lebedev vs Tony. It’s the blueprint. It might never happen though; if Khan gets to Mayweather first, we could see a shock.

Posted August 27, 2014 11:34 am 


Ok

Floyd Mayweather said today that he watched a full Manny Pacquiao fight for the first time in nearly four years recently and the Filipino star looked amateurish and more beatable than ever.

That doesn’t mean the fight is any more viable, Mayweather quickly noted, because of the promotional divide separating them.

“I’m seeing something totally different in Pacquiao,” Mayweather said. “But still, that don’t make me say, ‘Oh, I’m going to go out there and fight him,’ because he’s still with Bob Arum and I’m with Mayweather Promotions.”

Posted August 27, 2014 11:22 am 


REALJEWNOTLIES

Hecdog

“Imagine how much greater Manny could have been had he had the advantages and privileges to grow up in a boxing family or a country that gave you opportunities to be a fighter” I hope you feel the same way when you look at The Blacks in America. Imagine how much greater Black People could have been and can be, had THEY had the advantages and privileges to grow up in rich,wealthy, middles class family, non racsist society that kills our young black males or lock them up or a country that gave you opportunities that they give to everyone else none black. STOP WITH THAT BS. FM is TBE and was not born rich or privileged. This site tells you he fights in and out of the ring. He had to play the villain to be recognized. GTFOOH with that SH!T

Posted August 27, 2014 11:14 am 


pactards r us

Squeal

You want evidence of PAC using PEDs well you can ask his pediatrician for Manny’s growth chart and you will see his head grow in size at an alarming rate.

Posted August 27, 2014 11:06 am 


SREDMOND

The reality is that being as good as these fighters have been over the years is going to create a scenario where people want them to somehow struggle… Manny has provided us with struggles because his style was more dangerous and he is not the defensive master that Floyd has ALWAYS been… Mayweather on the other hand does NOT have crushing power, and his opponents have the FULL 12 rounds most nights to do what they have trained their WHOLE lives to do (Land a Harmful series of punches) There is a contingent of fight fans that will not rest until they see Floyd Mayweather flat on his face and any opponent that cannot accomplish the feat his going to be written off as “unworthy, a cherrypick, a scrub” or worse NO matter what they have achieved in their careers and against whom…Mayweather has taken the risk that comes with moving up 24 pounds at the upper echelons of boxing and has remained unscathed, he has forced boxing fans and experts to ask WHY can NO ONE get to this fighter? they would have to accept that he is REALLY just that good… Pac Man is awesome yet we have seen him felled by fighters that themselves were NOT invincible a 39 year old Marquez destroyed him, he was stopped by Singsurat, and Torrecampo, outboxed by Morales… Amongst the longterm Elites ONLY Mayweather is unbeaten and never banged up seriously unless you count a bloody nose as being battered… He has an aura of invincibility that angers some because they EXPECT fighters to lose over time… FACT is that Money Mayweather despite his wild persona and media antics is one fo the BEST pure boxers to EVER wear a set of Gloves… His reliance on his brain and skills have carried him to the pinnacle in terms of achievement and riches… The fighter proposed to be the ONLY one who can take him has myriad flaws despite his own Greatness and really does not have a compelling reason to think he can dethrone Floyd… Manny is SMALLER, he is NOT hitting that hard at WW, he has had his chin dented by one of Floyds easiest opponents… Imagine what the public would say if FMJ rematched Marquez?? If this fight is made the FIRST thing that will be said is that “Manny is Old” well so is Floyd in fact he is OLDER and we know that that 39 year old counter punchers are Pac Mans Achilles heel, Floyd is soon to be 38…. Holla!

Posted August 27, 2014 10:42 am 


Anonymous Dave

Does everyone see what happenned here? A guy wrote a Pacquiao-Mayweather article but used a complicated word (paradox) in the title instead of calling it “Why Money should of fought Pacquaio if he wasn’t on PEDs” and consequently it has 75 comments instead of the 300+ that such an article normally has. And it contained actual facts and statistical analysis as well.
Excellent job, you should be made editor of this site and prevent any articles as good as this one from even appearing. On question re: your methodology though. On your PPV stats, both Mayweather and Pac have as their lowest figures fights against guys who are neither American nor represent a large diaspora community in America. It therefore looks as though you haven’t counted overseas rights which in fights against the likes of Hatton or Baldomir would be massive.

Posted August 27, 2014 9:11 am 


He glossed me!

Not a paradox…it’s a fear that mayweather has of he little Asian fighter

Posted August 27, 2014 7:53 am 


bee bee

to be fair it says that paq is not that popular anymore. rios and bradley are his last bouts and they are very low at ppv’s.

I think the buzz is over and nobody believes paq could still beat may.

Posted August 27, 2014 5:26 am 


Squeale

Xylocaine: please someone direct me to which sporting bodies ban it’s use.
Similarly, please someone provide proper evidence PAC uses peds.

Posted August 27, 2014 5:09 am 


Anonymous

Manny no roids no KO Manny has no power behind his punches anymore its funny how right after the whole PED issue can up he hasnt had a KO since? lol

Posted August 27, 2014 2:30 am 


get over it

Nathan apparently you haven’t seen the mystery sake Manny drinks that Roach gives him. How they hell did he climb 8 divisions and gain speed and power? I guess he was able to do naturally what no one else was able to do? Look how big Mannys head is hell naw roid muncher got KTFO by JMM Manny never submitted to USDA testing Floyd has

Posted August 27, 2014 2:28 am 


Anonymous

Nathan….STFU

Posted August 27, 2014 2:03 am 


Nathan

FMJ takes Xylocaine, without it he could not box at all due to his brittle hands ergo it is performance enhancing.
Pac has taken every test laid out by the various boxing commissions and passed them all.
FMJ has the right to request Olympic style testing, but does not have the right to start the accusations when the request is denied by whom he has requested. It is a bit rich people making the accusations when FMJ takes a performance enhancing drug all the time.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:47 am 


Anonymous

Everyone that calls Floyd out just wants a pension through TMT promotions.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:22 am 


Super Stars Pick and Choose

Numbers will not matter if Mayweather and Pacquiao decide to put on their match against each other. The PPVs will go through the ceiling never to be equaled again. The curiosity of finding out just how well each fares against the other is what will sell like hot, syrupy pancakes coming off the griddle. All the odds favor Mayweather at least for a split decision or even a UD. Everyone will buy the PPV anyway.

Posted August 27, 2014 1:15 am 


Pugfan

everyone calls out Paq. and Floyd , for that big pay day!

Posted August 27, 2014 1:09 am 


Anonymous

No one is scared of Manny he has been called out by everyone

Posted August 27, 2014 12:52 am 


Fight Aficionado

Looks like Sam Soliman may have to get a new, less “shot” opponent. Jermain Taylor just got arrested for shooting his cousin multiple times.

Posted August 27, 2014 12:51 am 


Ok

I think Floyd fights him before he retires as long as Pac keeps winning. And it can generate lost of money

Posted August 27, 2014 12:51 am 


poor pacturds

Poor Manny always the bridesmaid never the bride lol. Maybe if he seen that overhand right by JMM people would take him seriously of better yet avenge his lost. Floyd is not the onlt big fight out there for pacroid. Danny Garcia, Mattysse, Kahn and Canelo to name a few. But Manny fights bums and cries for Floyd to give him another chance. The man on top dont need to make excuses all Manny had to do was take a simple blood test and it would have been happen now what does he have a joke lol?

Posted August 27, 2014 12:49 am 


Fight Aficionado

Anyone who tries to argue against a Pacquiao vs Floyd fight are not true boxing fans. They are Floyd nut huggers. Fact.

Posted August 27, 2014 12:45 am 


Nathan

@Brza…. No logical argument CAN be made…. only excuses.

Posted August 27, 2014 12:37 am 


brza da originator

@Nathan how can any boxing fan be against this fight bro . Im waiting on the fanboys to debunk that post . I think imma be waiting a while

Posted August 27, 2014 12:10 am 


teepee

this pic is funny pac only wish of being that good pac is a joke fighting guys with no punching power and light weight what a bum pac has become ppv lmao should be on espn for free lol

Posted August 27, 2014 12:03 am 


Thurmal Underwear

how did manny’s head actually grow? how did that happen?

Posted August 27, 2014 12:01 am 


Nathan

@ Brza da originator.
Spot on mate, this would be on the lips of even casual sport fans around the world for the entire lead up and for months after the event as well.

Posted August 26, 2014 11:59 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

manny pacquiao*

Posted August 26, 2014 11:51 pm 


brza da originator

Anyone else get butterflies when they looked at the pic accompanyin the article . Someone try tellin me this wouldnt be the bomb. I would be in vegas for it but it wud be killah everywhere . Boxing wud be in the front n back pages . It would get top billing on espn for weeks . Celebs wud be tweeting n talkin on t v. About it bringin in much needed new blood to the sport . Imagine the tension in the hrs leading up to the fight wheter may is ur man or manny . The house parties The bars n clubs bein packed . Let one fanboy debunk what I just wrote . Explain to me why u don t want ur hereo to give us hardcore boxing fans this week . If u can I will never call out may for blocking this fight .Smh why the f**k can t we have this fight

Posted August 26, 2014 11:41 pm 


Nathan

@ Thurmal Underachiever

When teacher put you in the corner with the little cone shaped hat on did you think you were being paid a compliment ?

Posted August 26, 2014 11:33 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Nathan

Thurmal Underwear

Nathan

At Thurmal Underwear.
Quick everyone stop the world!!!! Thrumal has given us his assurance !!!!!

Are you able to discuss anything without hurling an insult? Hecdog may be a bit long winded and adores his idol in Manny, but he is able to do it without insult so props to him, but you spout a lot of hate dude, you might want to see someone about that.

^shut up pu ssy.

^ I love it when someone proves my point

^word. you probably love it when someone puts a belly on your back too. fv cking weirdo.

Posted August 26, 2014 11:23 pm 


Nathan

Thurmal Underwear

Nathan

At Thurmal Underwear.
Quick everyone stop the world!!!! Thrumal has given us his assurance !!!!!

Are you able to discuss anything without hurling an insult? Hecdog may be a bit long winded and adores his idol in Manny, but he is able to do it without insult so props to him, but you spout a lot of hate dude, you might want to see someone about that.

^shut up pu ssy.

^ I love it when someone proves my point

Posted August 26, 2014 11:03 pm 


Nathan

Duran, Hagler , Hearns and SRL careers all had losses and their legacies were all cemented because they fought each other, as was Ali, Foreman and Frazier. The best ever is regarded as beating the best possible. The pound for pound all time great SRR had a few losses on his card and is not thought less of as a result.

Posted August 26, 2014 11:00 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

Nathan

At Thurmal Underwear.
Quick everyone stop the world!!!! Thrumal has given us his assurance !!!!!

Are you able to discuss anything without hurling an insult? Hecdog may be a bit long winded and adores his idol in Manny, but he is able to do it without insult so props to him, but you spout a lot of hate dude, you might want to see someone about that.

^shut up pu ssy.

Posted August 26, 2014 10:58 pm 


Nathan

At Thurmal Underwear.
Quick everyone stop the world!!!! Thrumal has given us his assurance !!!!!

Are you able to discuss anything without hurling an insult? Hecdog may be a bit long winded and adores his idol in Manny, but he is able to do it without insult so props to him, but you spout a lot of hate dude, you might want to see someone about that.

Posted August 26, 2014 10:54 pm 


brza da originator

@Teflon floyds legacy is secured . Weak . Another soundbite the fanboysbthrow around . Floyds best win is undefeated prime diego corrales . Yhats his biggest legacy victory .Many has victories over atg in there best weights n in there prime Morales Barrera n Marquez . Its almost to easy schoolin u fanboys who disrespect the sport I love by refusing to call out the p4p no I for not fighting his biggest rival . That lesson was free . Ur welcome.

Posted August 26, 2014 10:42 pm 


Nathan

Anonymous
Marciano fought a lot of taxi drivers as did like Chavez Sr. Calzaghe fought a higher level of comp than Marciano and retired undefeated but is not held in the same regard. Floyd has a better resume than either Rocky or Joe but he has not fought the best he COULD have faced and that is Manny. ????? will reside over his “0” until he fights him.

Posted August 26, 2014 10:41 pm 


Nathan

Teflon.
I must respectfully disagree about his legacy being cemented. I do agree he is the best, but the only one near Floyd’s level is Manny. Not Cotto or Alvarez, or Hatton, or Mosley ( 2001 version of Mosley was) or Baldimore, or Gurrero or anyone else he has fought. If there is a ? mark over a fight that did not occur his legacy will be tainted. There WILL be ? mark if he does not fight Manny and equally there will be ? mark over Manny’s career if he does not fight Floyd. Both will be the subject of criticism for years to come if they do not fight each other ergo legacy WILL be tainted.

Posted August 26, 2014 10:37 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd is going to break the great Rocky Marcianos record fck Manny lol…

Posted August 26, 2014 10:06 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

I assure all you idiots. Floyd Mayweather Jr. will be regarded as one of the best to have ever laced them up. No question about it. Manny was good, but he never reached Floyd’s level….like my man on here always says:

POOR MANNY: ALWAYS THE BRIDESMAID, NEVER THE BRIDE!

LMAO!!!!!

Posted August 26, 2014 10:04 pm 


teflon

Nathan Floyds legacy is already cemented rather he fights Manny or not. I do think that he will fight Manny before he retires if Manny keeps winning one more loss and its over. I assume that why they are giving him easy fights in hopes Floyd would reconsider its still aot of money to be made from the fight but Mannys credibility to win has gone because of his KO by JMM who is not half as good as Floyd. Floyd could fight Kahn and then Manny and rake in a ton of money actually he could be crazy not to fight the two fighters, Both he wins easy unless he gets old over night…

Posted August 26, 2014 10:01 pm 


Kato3388

NATHAN – Concur.

Posted August 26, 2014 10:00 pm 


Nathan

To the Floyd fans that say he does not need Manny, only want to talk about his “0” or how he is a the best P4P , or use his PPV numbers as some sort of guide to why he is better, or the best ever, put your money where you mouth is. EVERY one of you will tune it to watch with baited breath should that fight occur and you KNOW it! it is a high risk high reward fight for Floyd. Even Boxtradamus will be nervous about his prediction. ( I do think he is right and FMJ beats Manny every time though). Floyds legacy WILL be tainted if he does not fight Manny.

To the Manny fans, he is not the best until he beats the best, it IS that simple, and FMJ is regarded by all the experts and most punters as the best, get over it. Yes Manny has does some incredible things in his career and had a run of sheer dominance that few have seen in this generation of fighters. Yes he is very exciting to watch and he has been is some fantastic wars. But he is just a man ( take note of that Hecdog) The conjecture about him being a PED cheat is pure speculation with no evidence so do not let the Floyd fans rile you up with it as they do not REALLY know.

BRZA is right, real boxing fans want to see this fight, the only ones that do not are ones that are protecting their hero from falling of the pedestal that they put them on.

Posted August 26, 2014 9:51 pm 


poor pacturds

It was one of the most Brutal KOs in boxing history. I hoped Manny was dead for using roids. And if JMM used them all is fair in love and war Manny got what he deserved.

Posted August 26, 2014 9:50 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

i swear to jesus, i thought pacquaio was dead after that right hand. like i laughed out loud (LOL’d) and then i was like oh, sh!t, damn, he’s really hurt. haha shout out to the pactards for letting me get over the guilt real quick too.

Posted August 26, 2014 9:42 pm 


mansworld

JMM owns Manny everytime they face always has always will

Posted August 26, 2014 9:36 pm 


poor pacturds

If he had taken the blood test instead of puss ing around it would have happened in 09. Now Manny needs the money and Floyd remains on top. Manny fights bums and no one is interested in his fights. Floyd made 70 mllion beating Miadana. He dont need Manny. I say fight Kahn next instead because of his UK fan base it would be huge. Manny should rot for using roids to begin with once a liar always a lair

Posted August 26, 2014 9:35 pm 


Boxtradamus

I didn’t read the article but the FACT is that Floyd is the Top draw in the Sport. I’m not really here to voice MY opinion about the Business side of it though…..As far as the Boxing part of it goes the VAST majority of EXPERTS agree with ME that Floyd is the BETTER Boxer and I’m FINE with that IF I don’t get to SEE the Fight. I already KNEW what was going to happen anyway. ITS a GOOD thing that it didn’t happen. Some people might have come away thinking that EVIL is GREATER than GOOD and that’s not a GOOD message. God may have had to intervene and just not let it happen.

Posted August 26, 2014 9:29 pm 


get over it

Poor Manny always the bridesmaid never the bride lol…

Posted August 26, 2014 9:27 pm 


Congressman Pacquiao

Everyone I have not met Hecdog but i have received a disturbing message from my fanclub president regarding Mr Dog..

Posted August 26, 2014 8:47 pm 


Kato3388

@REM – And that’s the god honest truth. Whenever he fights someone Hispanic, the majority tune in to see him lose. I’m so not making this about race, so please no one needle that issue. It’s just the facts. This was a very good article by the way, a lot of effort went into getting the stats.

Posted August 26, 2014 8:46 pm 


Mike Roch

Hecdog, I think your comment may be longer than the article.

Posted August 26, 2014 8:29 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF being a PUSS makes you the highest paid and #1 rated Boxer on the Planet then everyone else should learn how to be a PUSS TOO.

Posted August 26, 2014 8:02 pm 


REM

Aah nice to have the #s back the position that most tune in to see Floyd lose more so than him having a huge fanbase tuning in to see their favorite fighter.

Posted August 26, 2014 7:44 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Hec Dog … have you ever met Manny Pacquiao?

How do you know he is such a great guy?

Nobody ever really know any of these guys?

Even Jinky doesn’t really know Manny Pacquiao. These guys are so rich and so isolated — they live in their own world, with thousands if not millions of people worshiping them.

It makes them weird. You don’t really know this guy.

Posted August 26, 2014 7:25 pm 


Love-the-Sport

Great article. Great data. Clever analysis.

Eastside boxing should do more articles like this one … and there should be less of the racist stupidity on the boards.

Posted August 26, 2014 7:22 pm 


mephisto

b!tch, pleaseeeee

Posted August 26, 2014 7:22 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Both Floyd and Pac can sell enough seats and PPVs to bank a profit so from a business POV they don’t see the need to fight each other. One day they will, when they’re both shot and the fight is meaningless. It’s like Bhop vs Jones II or Leonard vs Duran III. They happened a decade after we wanted it and were meaningless when they finally occurred.

Posted August 26, 2014 7:16 pm 


get over it

JMM destroyed Manny this is not about race. Hell if he did Manny like that what the hell will Floyd do to him??

Posted August 26, 2014 7:05 pm 


third world

blacks will back mayweather to the death, no matter what. hell,they still back o.j. simpson and michael jackson. thats o.k.,they can have all 3. he owns las vegas. real champions don’t hide behind promoters and from fighters. the maidana rematch is going to be a farce with a handpicked referee that is going to harass maidana at every turn. boxing has turned into a damn circus. keep believing your hero is the best ever. henry armstrong, ray robinson, joe gans, roberto duran,ray leonard, benny leonard,willie pep,hagler,monzon never told an opponent what damn gloves to use. they sure as hell didn’t duck and hide from opponents.

Posted August 26, 2014 6:57 pm 


brza da originator

Kato no doubt . I am a fan of Floyd the technician but I can t enable him stopping the biggest fight of our generation . Mike wouldve took it ray wouldve took it hearns wouldve took it f**k yeah hagler wouldve took it . All the great black champs I grew up watchin wouldve took the fight especially for a career high payday . I can think of one great black fighter who wouldnt have taken it . Hes the only one ( n I do think hes Great ) I can think of who wouldnt take it . N why are nt all his fans wanting him to take it . No they throw out pathetic soundbites from him n defend him to the last while lookin like scrubs . If he don t fight him it will follow him forever n it don t matter what these fanboy scrubs say the public has made up its mind on who to blame

Posted August 26, 2014 6:53 pm 


teflon

brza da originator you are a Floyd hater thats ok, You can be Manny cheerleader he needs one I heard he is going into basketball next since his boxing career is over. You already do such a good job holding Mannys nutts lol

Posted August 26, 2014 6:48 pm 


poor pacturds

brza da originator you cry like a biiotch when the fact is Top rank has a history of screwing fighters over Arum stiffed Floyd on 5 mil, Why do you think everyone leaves Top rank? Everyone tried to make the fight Happen Floyd, Oscar even Shaffer. Learn the history bad blood between the camps. Floyd dictates everything from the ring size to the gloves and guys accpept it get the fight the ones that dont he says fck off. And everyone wants to fight Floyd no one turns him donw because its like winning the lottery why do you think everyone wants a shot? Manny walked away so fck him and you too ass tard

Posted August 26, 2014 6:44 pm 


brza da originator

@pactard like I told u before Floyd bangin some hooker in vegas is not the same as U banging her . Stop livin ur life thru Floyd n go n get ur own hooker u Punk Biatch

Posted August 26, 2014 6:39 pm 


Anonymous

No black mark on Floyds record he never needed Manny he remains undefeated, people hate on the best that ok Manny been down more times than a Vegas hooker nothing is changing that. Floyd is alway in the boxing hall of fame and set to beat Rocky Marcianos record Manny who lol??

Posted August 26, 2014 6:38 pm 


brza da originator

Pactard that stadium excusecame from arum ( who already hsd an in house fight for pac lined up ) lasted about 2 seconds . Do u remember they then tried to mske it and May offeref him 40 million . Now u n all the rest of the fanboys try n twist that to make it seem like its evidence for manny duckin but every other semi intelligent person in the world knows that offer was an insult ( don t bother answerin back wit them usual garbage soundbites sayin thats the most pac ever made because at the time that woulve been the most Floyd ever made Check mate scrub ) . Now onto ur inane ” may gettin paper he don t need pac ” argument that to me proves u r a mat fanboy n not a fight fan and probably too stupid to realise how STUPID that sounds comin out of anyone bar mayweathers mothers mouth , never mind a boxing fan . Take ur head outta the sand scrub cos the only people who don t wanna see this fight r mayweather n his fanboys who could never live down Floyd losing so even if there is a chance of that happening they would rather not take the fight n just say stuff like ” may gettin paper he don t need pac ” . Too raw for u ? That lesson was free . Ur welcome

Posted August 26, 2014 6:35 pm 


poor pacturds

Only pactards still want this fight, And man dont send you 40 million and a contract if he is scared? Who has Mannt beat in the last 3 years worth anything? Rios, Bradley and Aigieri all nobodies. Fck Manny he is washed up and irrelevant hell he can even beat Marquez, In 09 yes this could have been big but Manny walked away over drug testing, He would not allow it 4 days before the fight. Now who in the hell would turn down 40 million over 4 days??

Posted August 26, 2014 6:35 pm 


Riff Raff

This is a black mark on FMJ fake record. Everyone knows that Floyd did everything possible to avoid the Pacquiao challenge.

Posted August 26, 2014 6:31 pm 


kato3388

@BRZA – Word brotha. All the smoke blowing about Bob Arum not wanting this fight. That’s BS. The only person holding this fight hostage from the very beginning was Fraud Maytwitter. He’d rather fight Manny on Twitter than actually getting in the ring with him.

Floyd WILL NOT fight Khan in the UK. Why leave Las Vegas??? He has no reason to. Lydocaine is legal in Nevada. And that’s just my speculation, since you don’t need an ounce of truth to slander someone’s name.

When we are long gone, or our memories have depleted, no one will remember the asterix on Floyd’s resume. * He didn’t want to fight Pacman.

But the history books will only tell a different tale, the basic story. An undefeated fighter with all his accolades.

That is what Floyd is counting on. Now a days, people look back at Ali’s career and reminisce about how great he was. Back in the day, Ali was hated among a lot of people. But no one says talks about that anymore.

Again, this is what Floyd is counting on. But for us that live on and remember these dark days of boxing, where a ‘FIGHTER’ is more interested in making money, rather than proving he is the best, and where fighters duck and dodge the best level of competition, we will know why Maytwitters name is forever linked to Manny Pacquiao.

Posted August 26, 2014 6:26 pm 


poor pacturds

brza da originator STFU you sound like a biootch another crying ass pactard Floyd cannot save pacroid. Manny got KTFO by a bum ass Marquez and he wont drug test, I guess 40 million dollars was not enough I bet he is kicking himself in the ass now. lol Fck Manny is wished JMM killed him I respect people to earn wins not use PEDS to get them. Since then what has he done he beat Rios, Bradley and now he is fighting Algieiri all bums. Rios was a blown up lighweight and Bradley cant punch for sht. How the hell can Manny fight Floyd when he can never get past Marquez fck boy?

Posted August 26, 2014 6:22 pm 


poor pacturds

brza da originator this fight lost all its luster Bob Arum never had any interests in it in the first place, Hell we still waiting on the stadium he promised to build for the fight and the billion dollar investors ass clown Manny is washed up who has he beat in the last 3 years worth talking about? This fight should have happened in 09 but he refused to drug test moron. He would not be tested 4 days before the fight because he was afraid of needles and they he goes on to get KTFO by Marquez. Since then Floyd made 300 million and Manny is 100 million in detb. Only Pactards care about this fight. Hell Floyd can made 100 million fighting Kahn in the UK Fck Manny and Arum he needs a handout. Black man is running boxing and they hate it Arum is shady Jew bastard and no one can deal with him.

Posted August 26, 2014 6:16 pm 


brza da originator

Real boxing fans want this fight . When I think about it not happening it makes me crazy . Anything anyone says about the outcome is hearsay . Floyd has the power to make it ( yes he f***ing does ) . Make it Floyd u will probably win . It will stay wit u forever if u don t make it . The casual fan blames u for it not happening at this minute as pac has given in to all original demands . Ignore the fanboys who say u don t need it they are about 0.000001% of the population. If u don t fight him his name will be negatively linked to yours forever . And u get to make more of ur beloved $ $$ than u ever made . Q the fanboys

Posted August 26, 2014 5:40 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

From Boxrec: ”
While he finished 84-6 as an amateur, his pre-professional career ended bitterly at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta when he lost a controversial decision and was forced to settle for a bronze medal.”

Posted August 26, 2014 5:36 pm 



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