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Floyd tested Positive 3 times!

Floyd will NEVER fight Pac… Not even for $200 mill!

Posted September 2, 2014 5:20 pm 


Batangueño Lives On

@DZAzzz on Sqeale saying Floyd is in decline: “Let’s wait until he loses before we come to that conclusion.”

Amen. Just like when Jordan said, “I may have lost a step of cannot jump as high as I used to, but you people would not notice because I am still winning.” Or some $#!t like that.

Time takes its toll on everyone, but Floyd at 75% accuracy and effective is still way better than most.

Posted September 2, 2014 11:04 am 


Anonymous

What Roach was saying was Floyd is shot too, like Pac. LOL.

Posted September 2, 2014 10:59 am 


Celestino

“The only people on crack.is blacks” WTF ??

Learn how to write English crackhead. But in order to do that you need to toss the crack pipe. Or maybe you’re on crank. Whatever. Your brain is fried on chemicals.

Posted September 2, 2014 12:00 am 


bearhug

The only people on crack.is blacks.no one else likes that shttt.so stop saying ur on crack!!! Crack heads..

Posted September 1, 2014 11:43 pm 


The Loc69

It’s Freddie’s job as a quality trainer to say those things hoping some of it gets back to Floyd. That’s cool uncle Freddie! Now let’s get back to reality..we know good and damn well Floyd is not ‘shot’, The man is undefeated and the P4P best. Had a rough early going in a fight with a fighter that resulted to using dirty rough house tactics ( and when did rabbit punching become legal in boxing?). And in Freddie’s mind that means that Floyd Mayweather is shot?? Huh?? What that really means is that Pacquiao is shot but he’ll knock Floyd out..yeah right. Listen Freddie, no disrespect ,but your health won’t allow you to miss taking your meds. You have to be in sound mind to be an effective trainer. What will your analysis of Floyd Mayweather be after he dominates Maidana on the night of Sept.13 to a one-sided UD?

Posted September 1, 2014 8:48 pm 


Squeale

Floyd is in decline. There’s no shame in that. He’s still slick, can still fight in and out. I doubt he can move as well on his feet nor move for 12 rounds. Still, he’s p4p. It’s his shrinking testicles that I don’t like. They were never that big to start with.

Posted September 1, 2014 6:36 pm 


Nope

Bob buys the most expensive gals in the world. It takes skill to get the ol boy up

Posted September 1, 2014 3:39 pm 


Anonymous

Is uncle bob slipping Jinkee one.

Posted September 1, 2014 3:05 pm 


FUF

And the horse you road in on, fake

Posted September 1, 2014 1:18 pm 


NOPE

Not on the decline

Posted September 1, 2014 12:35 am 


Entitled to my opinion

he is on the decline.

Posted August 31, 2014 11:31 pm 


Happyboy

Humanity – True!

Posted August 31, 2014 9:31 pm 


Anonymous

Floyd is not on the decline. It’s a balancing act. Your physical prowess has gone down at least 5% due to age over the last couple years when you reach 38 — but you’ve brought your skills and mastery up 7% in that period to compensate – so you could be better than ever.

After 40 there’s little you can do. You’re sliding so fast you can’t close the gap with improved skills – but you can narrow it a lot.

Posted August 31, 2014 8:39 pm 


the1

I would not use the word “shot”. I think he is on the decline on some level. This age is about where it starts to happen.. give or take a year. All par for the course. But he’s not a shot fighter. He is degrading though. You can see cracks and chips in the work in different places. The only question is how fast or slow with it progress.

Posted August 31, 2014 8:04 pm 


Tachyon

Adrian your incorrect the first fight negotiations everyone thought Mayweather would balk at money but Mayweather said 50/50 split was fine, Pac also wanted the Reyes gloves Mayweather said fine, the fight fell apart not with blood testing but with random blood testing. Manny said I will do random if I know the dates in advance. Mayweather said if they tell you the dates it’s not random and the fight fell apart.

Posted August 31, 2014 6:17 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Don’t agree that Floyd’s shot but do agree he doesn’t move like he used to. I’ve been saying since the Cotto bout his legs are going. Otherwise he’d run and pot shot the full 12 rounds like he used to.

Posted August 31, 2014 5:48 pm 


Humanity

All I can say is when you find yourself constantly detracting from any fighter in this sport, you subtract yourself from being taken seriously. In other words that type of demeaner is not worth anything to anyone other than the one spewing the rhetoric.

Posted August 31, 2014 5:28 pm 


Just so you know

Tark, do you really think taking on Algieri is a bigger risk than Maidana? And Thurman still has a lot to prove before he warrants the Mayweather fight. But you just go ahead and call everyone an idiot who disagrees with your punch drunk opinions. Oh and by the way Bears you might want to take Tark’s balls out of your mouth. Your cheerleading is embarrassing. Just like 90% of your comments on ESB.

Posted August 31, 2014 1:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Floyd is CHICKENSH%T!!!!!!!”-Well then the EXPERTS agree with ME that SKILLS is GREATER than being CHICKENSH%T. Because they rate Floyd as BETTER than Manny whether he’s CHICKENSH%T or not.

Posted August 31, 2014 11:34 am 


Humanity

I agree, Mayweather was worried about losing to Pac. It’s to bad Pac didn’t agree to the extra testing right off the bat. But for what it’s worth Mayweather played it perfectly. Since then Mayweather has made a lot of money while remaining the sports top boxer. If Mayweather would have taking that fight without random testing, and lost would he still be in the position he is today? Probably not. If Pac would have agreed to the Random testing and been found clean and lost would his stock remained as high as it was prior to his comments on gay marriage and his crushing loss to Marquez? Or what would have happened if Manny would have failed the random testing? In either case Arum and Manny would have lost a lot of dollars…. Both teams played a part in this fight not happening.

Posted August 31, 2014 8:21 am 


rjhill

Nice try Fredd.

Posted August 31, 2014 8:13 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

If Mayweather wasn’t worried about Pacquiao having been able to beat him in 2009-2010 then he WOULD have fought him. It’s that simple. They were ready to sign the fight was practically official it was soon to be announced and Floyd flat out bottled it and went on a tirade about drug abuse and the commission not being good enough. If he was totally confident in his ability to beat or dominate Pacquiao he would have signed the fight

Posted August 31, 2014 7:43 am 


I’m on crack

…because I know May is scared of facing Manny, or at least he was when they were at their peaks. How do I know this? Because May said he was scared of getting hurt and being damaged goods at an elderly age. His dad had the same comment. Horses mouth.

Posted August 31, 2014 7:25 am 


KOrnerman

Floyd is doing him a favour not fighting him as he will make him look silly and very much inferior, just like he did vs Marquez who happens to be on a par with or even better than Pac.

Posted August 31, 2014 5:58 am 


KOrnerman

Anyone that thinks Floyd is scared is on crack too, He wants to make sure Pac isn’t on roids which is fair enough when your opponent refuses blood tests as it interferes with his religion and can rise through 7 weight divisions relatively unscathed after being KO'[d twice at super flyweight??? I mean come on, that’s why it hasn’t happened because pac needs Peds to win his big fights and gets KO’d when he doesn’t ala Marquez.

Posted August 31, 2014 5:55 am 


KOrnerman

WTF is Freddy smoking?

Posted August 31, 2014 5:49 am 


Adrian

Mnboxingfan, agree !

They are still nr1/nr2 in p4p rankings , not bad for being shot…..

Posted August 31, 2014 4:49 am 


MNboxingFAN – Sean

Everyone was saying Pacquiao was shot as well. Which is also complete nonsense. Yes Manny and Floyd aren’t spring chickens anymore, but these seasoned veterans and future living legends are still kicking the crap out of the best out there. Hard to argue that either is “shot”.

Posted August 31, 2014 4:36 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

And that’s really the tragic irony in all of this. Mayweather and Pacquiao both peaked at roughly the same time in roughly the exact same weight class and were both universally acknowledged as all time great fighters in their own right and they never fought. Pacquiao had proved he was no longer a small man as a welterweight and Floyd had done the same. Similar age similar weight not too disssimilar size and completely different styles and it never happened.

Posted August 31, 2014 3:55 am 


Bill Patrice Jones

Freddie Roach hates Mayweather and you can’t say completely unjustifiably. Roach hates how Mayweather ducked his most prized ever fighter, to whom he’s bonded more than anyone, by calling him a drugs cheat and a doper. Roach took that to heart and he didn’t take it well at all. Roach also knows that tragically his time as a head trainer is kind of finished, he’s not capable anymore of being the lead talker in Pacquiao’s corner already. He wanted to seal Pacquiao’s legacy by fighting Floyd when it was meant to happen. On a side note there is definitely a kernel of truth to what he’s saying anyway. I don’t buy for a second Floyd’s explanation that he now gives the fans more exciting fights by exchanging on the ropes. He hand speed is just as good as ever but his footspeed is not. He’s really so much older than you think, I never think of Mayweather as pushing 40 but he is.

Posted August 31, 2014 3:51 am 


B E A R S

I suck cock! and smoke crack.

Posted August 31, 2014 3:00 am 


Adrian

Tark
“Ortiz got a title shot after winning one (1) title fight against a punching bag…”

Exactly right ! And how he even got a win against him ( Ortiz) sucker punch and was praised by his worshipers how hard he hits and suddenly everyone of them became experts on boxing rules trying to justify his ko! Lol

Posted August 31, 2014 2:39 am 


Thurmal Underwear

bears what happened bro? no smart alec answer? haha you got exposed for not knowing what the eff you’re talking about . don’t ever post here again. you’re in the class w/ hecdog now. i will never respond to your posts or even acknowledge them. you truly do not know boxing. you’re not among the few actual true boxing fans on esb. stop posting or change your name. you’re not a bear. you’re bare naked and exposed.

Posted August 31, 2014 2:35 am 


Adrian

“PEEJ

Pac lost 50/50 after the first negotiations. Adrien ( idiot )”

You f0king liar !!! Mayweather didn’t even take the offer by paqiao that the money would go to charity you siiiick f0k !!! Now that tells you right there who wants the fight and who don’t , so cut the crap mayweather changed demands every day , first testing , split then a bs demand to join his camp … Gtfo!who are you trying to fool? You can lie to someone who dosent follow boxing not me kid!

Posted August 31, 2014 2:32 am 


Showboat

Rob smith. Don’t give up your day job.

Posted August 31, 2014 2:10 am 


Squeale

Floyd and daddy were so scared of manny in the day that they probably convinced themselves that he must be on peds. How else could he dominate bigger fighters. They had thought peds because thinking the obvious, that manny was just that good and likely to rip May apart, was a truth too hard to swallow.

I recall fondly Floyd saying he wants to reach old age without any damage, suggesting that to fight manny he may get damaged. Correct weight, Floyd. His face would have gotten smacked abt a bit. Now the risk for floyd is less, so I guess he is more partial to it. Brk brrkkkkk brk brk brk.

Posted August 31, 2014 1:55 am 


TARK

“Mayweather will always remain the favorite to win over Manny Pacquiao with Mayweathers stlye and defence i see him out classing Pacquiao”

I wish Floyd had the same confidence you have. Then we would see this fight actually happen — and not have to just talk and brag endlessly about it.

Instead… Floyd is CHICKENSHlT!!!!!!!

Posted August 31, 2014 1:09 am 


Tim

Does anybody actually believe PBF is gonna step up and fight manny? How many years, how many excuses? It ain’t gonna happen, not until MANNY is the one that looks shot.

Posted August 31, 2014 1:01 am 


TARK

Just so you know, “Tark, so instead of fighting Hatton Mayweather should have fought Thurman who wasn’t even a professional at the time? And Brook is suddenly a world beater?”

Don’t be a pea-brained idiot… Thurman is an undefeated professional RIGHT NOW and would beat the piss out of Maidana.

Pacquiaoi and Floyd BOTH knocked Hatton as out easy as pie… They’re not supposed to fight each other??? But fighting a punching bag like Hatton was dandy for them.

Ortiz got a title shot after winning one (1) title fight against a punching bag… But Brook, who is 33-0, shoudn’t get a Floyd fight after beating a very good World Champion like Shawn Porter??? Porter easily outboxed Devon Alexander, who dominated Marcos Maidana.

You’re a member of the Floyd Protection League… dedicated to feeding him soft touches.

Posted August 31, 2014 12:55 am 


Ray Ray

Dominate huge guys like jmm? Ha ha ha. How could he beat bigger guys? 4letters 1st letter is P? The only ko hes been involved in since being called out is his own. Thankx Juan.

Posted August 31, 2014 12:48 am 


the1

Bears, if your early “STFU” was at me; you’re a funny guy.

Posted August 31, 2014 12:43 am 


Squeale

Floyd and daddy were so scared of manny in the day that they probably convinced themselves that he must be on peds. How else could he dominate bigger fighters. They had thought peds because thinking the obvious, that manny was just that good and likely to rip May apart, was a truth too hard to swallow. This is the cowardice: of self induced delusion to protect ones ego. Even if that ego itself is a delusion. Which may is still deluded abt.

Posted August 31, 2014 12:34 am 


Ray

EZ E. yea it was a Crazy fight, ball busting, but I don’t think that was Low blow tensional. Happen all the time, Seen it long ago, but The web also says jab won the first 4 and Floyd adjusted and nailed jab and won the 5 th, and took over, but Floyd did win on a UD, somehow Floyd get all the brakes with the judges.
Did you see boxing scene article about the WBA ok Floyd to defend the 147lb and the 154 lb belt on maidana 2 ?
Crazy…boxing fixed,

Posted August 30, 2014 11:56 pm 


Boxing Guru

Mayweather will always remain the favorite to win over Manny Pacquiao with Mayweathers stlye and defence i see him out classing Pacquiao and im a Manny Pacquiao fan however if this bout had taken place between 2009 to 2012 Pacquiao had a chance to dominate Mayweather.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:51 pm 


EZ E

Ray, Well, I thought Zab maybe won 3 out of the first 4 rounds, not much more. And it WASN’T his Daddy, it was actually his Uncle Roger who entered the ring. If you got a copy I think you better review it, you might agree. With about 10 seconds left in the tenth round, Judah hit Mayweather with a low blow and followed it with a right hand to the back of Mayweather’s head. Ref Steele called time and Roger Mayweather climbed into the ring, approached Judah and tried to confront him. Yoel Judah entered the ring and threw a punch at Roger. At an April 13 hearing, the Nevada State Athletic Commission fined Roger Mayweather $200,000 and revoked his boxing license for one year. On May 8, it fined Yoel Judah $100,000 and revoked his license for one year, fined Leonard Ellerbe $50,000 and suspended his license for four months, and fined Zab Judah $350,000 and revoked his license for one year. Peace!

Posted August 30, 2014 11:33 pm 


DA TRUTH HURTZZZZ

@ghetto thug hey bro all your commemts.are gay.this is a boxing forum.not a man to man dating site.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:25 pm 


REALTALK

This is why I dislike Roach! He dare you talk about someone when you took the extreme easy way out with you next opp. come on!

Posted August 30, 2014 11:19 pm 


Ray

EZ E, juduh won the first 4 round, and stagger Floyd in the the 2 round with a short right hook, and Floyd use his hand or glove to hold himself up.
It’s was ruled a slip but Floyd favorite referee Richard Steele .
And even daddy mayweather had to come in the ring to fighting jeb for Floyd. A real Daddy boys.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:08 pm 


pactards r us

PAC and Floyd has to get by their opponents first. Then we can talk of their possible fight…… PAC will lose to Algieri.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:06 pm 


Just so you know

Tark, stick your head away. So instead of fighting Hatton Mayweather should have fought Thurman who wasn’t even a professional at the time? And Brook is suddenly a world beater? Wise up. I would like to see Mayweather fight Pacquiao but the poster I was responding to said Mayweather was scared of him which is a ridiculous insinuation.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:49 pm 


TARK

Some IDIOT said, “If you think that Pacquiao’s career stands up to Mayweather’s your a fool.”

So, that means Floyd shouldn’t be called out for ducking Pacquiao… because, in your opinion it’s such a mismatch it’s ridiculous.

Floyd gets to fight the Hatton’s, Ortiz’s, and Maidana’s of the world — guys who can’t box — and never has to fight the Pacquiao’s, Brook’s, and Thurman’s.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:42 pm 


Just so you know

Ronin it’s a boxing website thread not an essay but if grammar is all you have then fair play. If it’s an education debate you want I’ll lose you.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:20 pm 


Ronin

Just so you know: Ronin take care of yourself.

Ronin: Thanks, I always do. I work out, pump iron, and eat lots of fruit and veg. I also steer well clear of booze and tobacco.

Just so you know: If you think that Pacquiao’s career stands up to Mayweather’s your a fool.

Ronin: I don’t think I know so. And it’s ‘you’re’ not ‘your’, fool.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:05 pm 


Just so you know

Ronin take care of yourself. If you think that Pacquiao’s career stands up to Mayweather’s your a fool.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:00 pm 


Ronin

Ronin: Guess who b!tches?

Posted August 30, 2014 10:00 pm 


Just so you know

Bears, what? You think your funny but your hatred of Mayweather is embarrassing.

Posted August 30, 2014 9:58 pm 


Ronin

Just so you know: Ronin what has Mayweather got to be scared of?

Ronin: Manny Pacquiao. Losing his zero. Getting his sh!t pushed in by a ”Yellow midget”

Just so you know: Why should Mayweather be scared of a guy who Marquez planted into the canvas?

Ronin: Exactly. But he is. His b!tch ass is still terrified. Thanks. Take care.

Posted August 30, 2014 9:57 pm 


Just so you know

Ronin what has Mayweather got to be scared of? Why should Mayweather be scared of a guy who Marquez planted into the canvas?

Posted August 30, 2014 9:36 pm 


Ronin

Or Pacquiao is shot but Mayeather is still sh!t scared of him.

Posted August 30, 2014 9:32 pm 


Ronin

I think it’s more like – Pacquiao is shot, Mayweather is sh!t.

Posted August 30, 2014 9:31 pm 


EZ E

Ray No, it wasn’t a SD vs Zab, it was a UD and it wasn’t really close, 119-109, 116-112 & 117-111. Zab was rather competitive in the first half and completely outclassed in the final half.

Posted August 30, 2014 9:31 pm 


Just so you know

Christ I haven’t read every comment but I’ve just read the article and Roach is clearly brain damaged. He sees a decline in Mayweather but obviously he feels Pacquiao is still in his prime? Lunacy. Mayweather is at least 6 years past his peak but is still too much for all challengers. Including Pacquiao if it ever happens. The hate for Mayweather is unbelievable. Even if he lost tomorrow his peak years ago would be the best there’s been.

Posted August 30, 2014 9:08 pm 


LET’S EAT RABBIT!

Freddie Roach is the one that’s shot! Put him in alzheimer’s ward where he belongs!

Posted August 30, 2014 8:46 pm 


Ray

andrea kotenik also did beat maidana before he went 147 lb. and morales who Floyd never fought, in his declining years come back fought maidana to a very close S.D.
Wonder how moreles or even margarito or Bradley or axexander would have done fighing Floyd? Remember Floyd had trouble with jab Judah a close S.D.
Khan retired jab, koed him after a beatup. Retired after.

Posted August 30, 2014 8:15 pm 


Ray Ray

Ha ha ha Freddie, wow. If only every1 could b as shot as Floyd Whilst being no.1 p4p? Was his choice 2 stand in front of Madaina he wont 2nd time around. Shot? Pretty sure every1 has wised up 2 Manny/Freddy/Arums mayweather name dropping games 2 gain interest in fighting another bum in china 4 manny? Ironic Pac is fighting in china? His chin is from there these days. Since getting laced by a 40yr old lightweight manny has avoided any1 who resembles a guy with power. Shot? Thats funny as hell, nice try though Freddy.

Posted August 30, 2014 8:14 pm 


Mat

SREDMOND, if Floyd cannot out box maidana and get hit the same as the first fight, Floyd legs are shots, or will you rather call it Floyd cant get away from sluggers, isn’t this fight porpose is Floyd saying the first fight was close because Floyd choice to slug it out rather to box? Which he said he could have done? So logic say Floyd has to put maidana to U.d decission and maidana can’t touch Floyd, well he can’t win more that 3 round. Or Floyd can’t pass maidana with a UD . Remember Alexander, khan drop maidana, all by a UD win.

Posted August 30, 2014 7:25 pm 


Real talk

Manny is not shot! He is fighting all these fights great and he looked so great

Posted August 30, 2014 7:14 pm 


Mat

boxing fans should know what the coaches say are meant to get in a fighter head, writer head is wraped. A Floyd fan boy prospective.
Roach know this bothers Floyd, he see as putting prussure on floyd. Saying That Floyd all mouth. And if he can’t do better than the 1 fight, that prove his legs are gone, And he also hoping that Floyd would say ok enought of this talk, let’s get the contract talks started again.

Posted August 30, 2014 7:12 pm 


pactards r us

I think roach was talking about Manny being shot by Marquez…because this Manny isn’t the old Manny.

Posted August 30, 2014 7:02 pm 


EZ E

Although I find it hard to agree with Roach I will say that Floyd is beginning to slip a bit. Yes, he finds a way to win, but then again he’s selecting his opponents wisely (Maidana 2x, Ortiz, Guerrero.. & probably Khan) and will continue to do so. At the same time, to be fair, Freddie has been right a few times when declaring a fighter “shot”. He said it about Erik Morales vs Pac 3 and of Oscar before vs Pac fight. He also said several times before, for example: about Sergio (vs Cotto) and Holyfield (vs Toney) when both Sergio and Evander were the favorites, as was Oscar. Anyway, I have my personal criteria when judging a fighter’s fading skills, I guess most trainers/ex-trainers do as well. Peace to all.

Posted August 30, 2014 6:47 pm 


BUSTAJAY

Damn has Freddie been hanging out with Tony Atlas….LMAO
FLOYD is shot….WTF

BRING PAC TO THE RING TO FSCE FLOYD AND WATCH A BOXING LESSON TAKE PLACE

Posted August 30, 2014 6:36 pm 


The Prince

Well if Floyd is shot, then that means Roach and Toprank are once again cherrypicking an opponent they think has slowed down enough to be beaten. But like Marquez and others, Floyd will prove them wrong.

Posted August 30, 2014 5:59 pm 


REM

I can say with almost absolutely certainty that if Floyds ppv #s weren’t declining he wouldn’t have a “big surprise” for us in May. I can still see the fight not happening if by some miracle the Chino fight pulls in over a million buys. Not alot of buzz around this one.

Posted August 30, 2014 5:27 pm 


TARK

Floyd isn’t shot by a long way.

He keeps improving his technical level because it’s important to him. Cotto caught Floyd with some sharp punches so he brought Floyd Sr back in. He brought up that part of his game up for his next fight. He wasn’t happy with his winning effort in this fight either.

A lot of boxers go “boy, I’m glad that fight’s over with and I’m just happy I won it” and then go party until it’s time to go back into training.

Some guys examine where they didn’t do well and what they can do better. Improving your game is a habit. You often need to bring in new trainers and new help. You don’t say “well.. I’m getting old” … that kind of thinking is for lazy people.

Posted August 30, 2014 5:19 pm 


REM

Ghetto thug how many quick southpaws have to punch Floyd dead in his face for you guys to understand smh.

Posted August 30, 2014 5:08 pm 


Carl

….and that’s my point! Five years ago we would not be discussing who was the most shot! Very sad as in their prime this would have been a fantastic match-up and a real 50-50 fight. Their varying styles would have ensured this. Now……

Posted August 30, 2014 4:57 pm 


SREDMOND

If Mayweather is “Shot” then Pacquaio is retired… Mayweather isn’t letting any 39 year year old fighters knock him out and put him on the shelf.. I commend Roach for trying to drum up a huge payday and a humiliating loss for Manny but FMJ has more in the tank than PAC who is a changed fighter..

Posted August 30, 2014 4:50 pm 


gman

*Manny*

Posted August 30, 2014 4:50 pm 


gman

Mayweather is on the verge of becoming a “shot” fighter imo, however so is Pacquiao and unfortunately for Manby I think he is past it more than Floyd is at this point.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:49 pm 


TARK

Somebody quoting me.., TARK “The thing that separates Floyd from the other ATG’s of history is that Floyd has never ducked a serious threat at any weight… The Pacquiao fight didn’t get done because Pacquiao didn’t agree to terms he agreed to years later. That fight will happen if Pac beats Rios because Pac has now agreed to all reasonable terms. Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Hearns, Duran, etc., all ducked the greatest competitors at various times. In the case of Joe Louis, there were no great competitors when he was in his prime.”

I said that… I gave Floyd the benefit of the doubt for a very long time. I wanted to believe in him. I wanted the fight to happen.

But now it’s evident Floyd is keeping this fight from happening. Floyd doesn’t want to do any risky fights and Pacquiao is on an ATG level where he’s very high risk.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:49 pm 


Carl

Does it really matter now? True boxing fans wanted to see this fight five years ago when both fighters were at their peak and no such counter-arguments could be raised. Personally, I’m not interested now it’s nowhere near as attractive a fight as it was and the only reason is WILL take place in 2015 is to give both of them AND the Arum’s and Oscar DLH’s of this world one last mega payday.
The politics and shenanigans in this most noble of sports only gets worse. Let the best fight the best which has always been my mantra and one I have stuck to.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:38 pm 


Michael Sam: Fag Boy cut by Rams

because it will generate more revenue than any fight in boxing history, Smith, you buffoon.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:36 pm 


Furor Teutonicus

TARK talks a whole lot of sh!t, but his comment immediately below is spot on. It’s the bottom line. End of story.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:20 pm 


TARK

Pacquiao makes his own decisions on who he fights. Mayweather is the only person in the world keeping May-Pac from happening. That’s Mayweather.

Floyd is CHICKENSHlT!!!

And that’s all there is to it too. Floyd never says he wants to fight Pacquiao or answers any of the numerous call outs by Pacquiao, Roach or Arum that have been aimed at him over the last year. All you hear is a litany of excuses.

Posted August 30, 2014 4:09 pm 


Ghetto Thug

REM “Pacs gonna trap Floyd, force him into exchanges and bust him up with relative ease”…… give me someof ur crack homie, I wanna get high too but Im gonna be careful of not talking that BIG amount of bullcrap

Posted August 30, 2014 4:02 pm 


PEEJ

Doesn’t matter what Pac says. If tgat was true he would if said yes to Floyd’s 40 midland called his bluff. That didn’t happen. Arum makes all the decisions. No Pac. That us why they are fighting Algieri

Posted August 30, 2014 3:58 pm 


Ghetto Thug

Hanging on Mayweather´s name to keep Pacquiao´s fight relevant, nobody is surprised for this technique anymore, its funny how this scumbag Roach talk lots of sh!+

Posted August 30, 2014 3:58 pm 


Chungles

Packyow- 180 lbs? A professional featherweight would have you hurtin. PACs favored, but an upset is there. Algeri’s not gonna stand in front of PAC like Bradley and Rios did. Pacs gonna have to work in this fight. And his legs ain’t what they were 5 years ago. Algeri doesn’t have the experience PAC has, but he’s tough, very well conditioned, and has solid skill. People forget he fought against a crushing puncher like Provodnikov for 12 rounds, with one friggin eye closing and rising from two brutal first round knockdowns. This is guy isn’t just gonna go away the first time PAC tags him. Even if PAC wins, it isn’t going to be a walkover

Posted August 30, 2014 3:45 pm 


TARK

This pundit doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Pacquiao is perfectly willing to take a lower money split than Floyd… and has been willing to take less for several years… It one of the many issues Pacman has capitulated on to make this fight happen.

Floyd just doesn’t want to get his ass kicked, and won’t fight.

Posted August 30, 2014 3:31 pm 


KAREEM ABDUL-JABAAR

Sounds like the author is in a little dream world if he thinks Algieri will beat Pac.NO chance,Pac will beat Chris.Rob smith please pull yourself together and try to be positive rather than negative.

Posted August 30, 2014 3:25 pm 


Anonymous

When these two finally pack it in,the Plastic fans will go back to MMA.

Posted August 30, 2014 3:24 pm 


Anonymous

PEEJ if anyone is an idiot and a compulsive liar then it’s you, you worthless piece of crap.

Posted August 30, 2014 3:11 pm 


Aljowa

Well people were saying Pacquiao is a spent force so it will be two shot fighters fighting each others if it ever comes off…

Posted August 30, 2014 3:08 pm 


Popkins

Bears… Yes. The Barrera win was awesome. Marco was on a roll, P4P top 3 and a huge favourite. Pacman smashed him in massive upset. Couldn’t believe that fight at the time. Nobody could have guessed what a phenomenal run Manny was about to go on. Legendary.

Posted August 30, 2014 2:57 pm 


packyow

I currently weigh like 180 lbs, so pretty boy Algieri would prob break his hands on my basketball size head..anyways, I’ve being watching boxing for over 25 years and thought he clearly lost to Ruslan…bust out the astroglide..pretty boy is gonna run for his life…

Posted August 30, 2014 2:52 pm 


REM

Yeah easy fight for Pac at this point. Floyds legs have been gone since the Marquez fight. The last time I was impressed with Floyds footspeed was the Hatton fight. Pac has more juice left so he’ll pretty much walk through Floyd. Pacs just to good for Floyd right now. A fleet footed Floyd would’ve struggled with Pac. Floyd doesn’t have the pop to earn Pacs respect so Pacs gonna trap Floyd, force him into exchanges and bust him up with relative ease. People will be shocked because they will have never seen Floyd handled so easily. But it was always how the fight would unfold. Floyd has never faced anything close to Pac.

Posted August 30, 2014 2:44 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

BEARS

styles make fights and jmm and pac match up well. pac specializes in knocking jmm down. fraud may never knocked jmm down he used his legs like bradley and it was not an offensive extravaganza like you get when pac and jmm fight.

99% of common opponents with fraud, pac has better and more efficient results. thats just a fact

when you fight a guy for times you def get to know him better and the odds of landing “one big punch” certainly get exponentially better. you could say fraud could beat pac based on jmm or you could say pac will beat fraud based on the fact that his legs are going and looked like they have been for some time. that pac has better results against 99% of the common opponnets, that maidaina wooped fraud may’s ass just letting his hands go, just like pac does only he is way better at it and has much better angles. is a non stop mover and thrower. RELENTLESS SON.

so if were gonna use all the TAPE SON. the tape tells us there is actually more to favor pacman. unless we want to cherry pick what tape and only one fight. fraud nuthuggers cherry picking would not surprise me. cherry picking like their boy

^PEEP THE TAPE SON.

youtube.com/watch?v=RMtBCIq4ZLE

FAIL. You. Don’t. Know. Sh t. About. Boxing.

Posted August 30, 2014 2:05 pm 


Chungles

Packyow- No he won. Maybe you didn’t see the decision. And those slaps as call them would knock your on your keyboard warrior ass. By the way its not 2009 anymore. PAC is declining every fight. When is the last time PAC had a really impressive showing in a fight against a quality opponent? As much you’re “I started watching boxing once PAC hit it big” ass wouldn’t like to admit, he’s primed to be upset any day. And Algeri’s power? Im sorry didn’t PAC get knocked out by a friggin flyweight??? I think Algeri has more than enough pop on his punch to keep a faded PAC honest.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:59 pm 


BEARS

algieri is a champ whats kahn the champ of?

Posted August 30, 2014 1:58 pm 


BEARS

i would rather see fraud fight algieri than kahn you can be damn sure of that

Posted August 30, 2014 1:54 pm 


BEARS

styles make fights and jmm and pac match up well. pac specializes in knocking jmm down. fraud may never knocked jmm down he used his legs like bradley and it was not an offensive extravaganza like you get when pac and jmm fight.

99% of common opponents with fraud, pac has better and more efficient results. thats just a fact

when you fight a guy for times you def get to know him better and the odds of landing “one big punch” certainly get exponentially better. you could say fraud could beat pac based on jmm or you could say pac will beat fraud based on the fact that his legs are going and looked like they have been for some time. that pac has better results against 99% of the common opponnets, that maidaina wooped fraud may’s ass just letting his hands go, just like pac does only he is way better at it and has much better angles. is a non stop mover and thrower. RELENTLESS SON.

so if were gonna use all the TAPE SON. the tape tells us there is actually more to favor pacman. unless we want to cherry pick what tape and only one fight. fraud nuthuggers cherry picking would not surprise me. cherry picking like their boy

Posted August 30, 2014 1:52 pm 


CurlyQ.Howard

Maybe Freddie meant Floyd Sr.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:45 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

BEARS

to think because jmm landed a great punch pacman flew into and got knocked out that pacman is shot is phukin retarded. punches land people get stopped. the likelihood of that result being repeated in a rematch i would bet against it ever happening again personally. lets not forget pac was wooping jmm’s a$$ before “one good punch”. this is boxing getting hit by one good punch does not mean your shot. happened to lennox lewis multiple times and one dude was a crack head who had a mental break down in the ring in the rematch and started crying. loss never really avenged for lennox

when your legs go yes you are shot. pax legs are not gone son. pac is not “shot” he smoked bradley twice while fraud faces the ortiz’s, guerreros, kahns, and maidanas of the world. fight berto and get a fraud may fight while fraud may’s fans surgically attached to frauds sack claim pac has not earned a shot or gets basically no money like 80/20. you fraud nut huggers are dumb phux.

the only guy that was risk for fraud, fraud boiled all the risk out by making a catchweight 2 pounds below the 154 limit at 152. fraud has not faced any of the best 154 pounders at a weight of 154. fraud is a fraud and nowhere near the best at 154. thats the joke son

^haha i love how you guys discredit jmm for landing the illest right hand in over a decade right to you boys grill. he went toe to toe w/ him every time and it’s not clear to me that manny is better at all. jmm gives him all he can handle; hence the reason for 4 fights haha and they want a 5th! lol floyd dusted jmm 12 – 0.

algeiri is a 140lb kickboxer. haha. hahaha. c’mon man. what if floyd was fighting him next? answer that question. i challenge any of you pactards to honestly answer that. keyword: honestly

timothy bradley? haha yeah, he’s real great isn’t he. he’s athletic, but he ain’t a great boxer and he can’t break an egg either. gtfoh.

manny pacqauio = barry bonds. peep the head size. my dude’s head actually grew. he’s like a bobble head.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:39 pm 


PEEJ

Pac lost 50/50 after the first negotiations. Adrien ( idiot )

Posted August 30, 2014 1:36 pm 


BEARS

cotto got SMOKED by trout nuff said. cotto is frauds TOUGHEST opponent by admission of fraud. nuf said

canelo would have been but canelo had no stamina there for there was not much of a fight at all. and people say fraud dominated canelo. lol @ them did you see the bout? wasnt much “fighting” going on at all let alone “domination”

LOL phuk heads

Posted August 30, 2014 1:35 pm 


BEARS

cotto is over rated what is his greatest win? a past it mosely? a 3 seperate eye surgery margarito one year out of the ring with no tuneup fight? lol

Posted August 30, 2014 1:33 pm 


BEARS

pax greatest wins are moralex, barrera, bradley and beating 99% of the common opponents he has with fraud may better than fraud may.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:32 pm 


Popkins

Just Bradley 2!

Posted August 30, 2014 1:25 pm 


Popkins

What is Pacquiao’s greatest win?? I would go for #1- Cotto, #2-Barrera 1, #3-Hatton. … Followed by Marales 2, Bradley, Oscar,Marquez 2, and Bradley 2. …. Sum amazing victories there!

Posted August 30, 2014 1:24 pm 


BEARS

to think because jmm landed a great punch pacman flew into and got knocked out that pacman is shot is phukin retarded. punches land people get stopped. the likelihood of that result being repeated in a rematch i would bet against it ever happening again personally. lets not forget pac was wooping jmm’s a$$ before “one good punch”. this is boxing getting hit by one good punch does not mean your shot. happened to lennox lewis multiple times and one dude was a crack head who had a mental break down in the ring in the rematch and started crying. loss never really avenged for lennox

when your legs go yes you are shot. pax legs are not gone son. pac is not “shot” he smoked bradley twice while fraud faces the ortiz’s, guerreros, kahns, and maidanas of the world. fight berto and get a fraud may fight while fraud may’s fans surgically attached to frauds sack claim pac has not earned a shot or gets basically no money like 80/20. you fraud nut huggers are dumb phux.

the only guy that was risk for fraud, fraud boiled all the risk out by making a catchweight 2 pounds below the 154 limit at 152. fraud has not faced any of the best 154 pounders at a weight of 154. fraud is a fraud and nowhere near the best at 154. thats the joke son

Posted August 30, 2014 1:22 pm 


Thurmal Underwear

BEARS

you have no idea what roach’s motives are for what he says. maybe he is saying his thoughts a bit too. some people try to claim there is always some behind the scenes motives to whatever anyone says. STFU

^well he does have a bit of brain damage, but how can he say that w/o saying manny’s shot. i mean, who fell off more. i mean, who’s undefeated. it’s absurd and contradictory to even make such a statement considering.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:14 pm 


BEARS

“joke coach roach” this dude is clearly smoking crack to say a thing like that. roach is one of the best in the world and that bit is unanimous son. pull your head out of fraud may’s a$$ son

Posted August 30, 2014 1:12 pm 


BEARS

you have no idea what roach’s motives are for what he says. maybe he is saying his thoughts a bit too. some people try to claim there is always some behind the scenes motives to whatever anyone says. STFU

Posted August 30, 2014 1:10 pm 


Humanity

Just maybe the joke is on us, and both Mayweather and Pacquiao are milking us fans for all we’re worth and they plan to cash out by finally making the fight happen before they both claim retirement. Probably late next year.

Posted August 30, 2014 1:00 pm 


the1

Be careful of using the word “idiot” loosely. Roach is merely trying to rouse and get in the head of Mayweather to make him want the fight. You know.. sorta how everyone here for the most part is all bucked up from what he said. And hey, it seems to work on you.. we’ll see if it works on Mayweather.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:59 pm 


Duckwalk

Two Roach certainties: 1) Floyd’s legs are gone; been saying that for 3,4 yrs; 2) Manny’s gonna knock(fill in the blank)out.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:56 pm 


Adrian

Peej (rob smith) ,
You say mayweather will not accept 50/50 split because paqiaos loss to Marquez ?? Lol … Dude you lost bro with the mayweather worship , you forgot that mayweather didn’t accept 50/50 even before paqiao loss to maruez !!!!! Enough with the bs , have some pride and don’t be a joke. !

Posted August 30, 2014 12:48 pm 


Chicago. guy

Floyd need to stop running , accept the fight and prove that Roach is wrong.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:45 pm 


Super Stars Pick and Choose

It’s all about the money. Both Mayweather and Pac would have millions falling from the sky if they fight each other. More like 300 million! Who cares if Pac loses? The fight itself would never be boring. Their styles make for an interesting fight. A lot more interesting than any of the fighters they have both faced lately with the exception of Marquez against Pac and Maidana against Mayweather.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:29 pm 


PEEJ

Roach is just talking trying to make sure this fight happens. I highly doubt it will. But Arum seems like he is ready to cash in on Pac. He knows Pac isn’t the machine he used to be so he thinks he needs to make the fight ASAP. If some how this fight does happen it will happen in May and I bet Arum won’t say Floyd doesn’t dictate when we fight like he did a couple years ago

Posted August 30, 2014 12:26 pm 


BOXING MACHINE

Author are you on drugs? I love Floyd but it’s obvious that if you think he’s a shot fighter you’re going to want to be the one that take his 0. Is that had to understand? The biggest fighter of all time is undefeated and ripe for the picking but I’ll go fight Keith “one time” Thurman. Don’t make sense to you either right? Stop being a douche and act like you understand a little bit about how the world works.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:20 pm 


BigMikeTampa

Ummmm…..because it will generate more revenue than any fight in boxing history. Glad I could help.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:13 pm 


packyow

he lost IMO chunkles..and Pac ‘s not fighting Provo, he’s fighting slap and runner Buttboy Algieri…

Posted August 30, 2014 12:12 pm 


Chungles

Packyow- Sissy Boy Algeri? Sissy boy Algeri came off the canvas twice from Provodnikovs bombs to win a decision. Bombs that would make you cry like a Sissy Boy, you Sissy Boy. Sweet dreams Princess.

Posted August 30, 2014 12:02 pm 


clem johnson

All you guys are dopes gayweather is the one who wants no part of Pac.gayweather can’t deal with a fast power punching machine that throws 70 punches a round .a south paw also.if this fight is ever made you either see the ref save gayweather from a brutal beating or the ref will be counting to ten with gayweather flat on his back

Posted August 30, 2014 11:56 am 


b00b man

Huh

Posted August 30, 2014 11:52 am 


NiNJa NiZZLe

after i read the title i had to LOL, i didnt know joke coach roach was a comedian haha.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:18 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

I remember when Floyd called him out and offered him the $40M, I remember when Arum used these excuses – a 36,000 seat tempory arena (to stop it taking place at the mgm grand) that would actually make less from ticket sales that the mgm. – Blood test cut off dates, – A cut over Pacs eye that would not be healed in 6 months time. catch weight excuses.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:13 am 


Tomato Can

Considering that Mayweather is 12 years older than Roach was when Roach knew he was a shot fighter, Mayweather isn’t doing so bad. That’s right Roach was a shot fighter at 25…. But really Mayweather has to be on borrowed time at this point, he’s old.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:01 am 


Thurmal Underwear

Take a look in the mirror Freddie.

Posted August 30, 2014 11:01 am 


Boxtradamus

Of COURSE Roach would jump at the chance to face a shot Fighter

Posted August 30, 2014 10:55 am 


te tumbo

Rob “Van Winkle” sounds as if he just awoke from 10 years of slumber up his own ass-crack. otherwise, targeting and/or compromising vulnerable opponents for Pacquiao* to defeat has been Team Pacquiao’s* notorious mismatchmaking M.O. since they avoided the red-hot rematch v. Marquez to instead target a faded Morales coming off of his second loss to Barrera. Wtf is so “interesting” about that? it’s been the shamelessly transparent disgrace in the sport for 10 years already.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:37 am 


Jb221

Alex Ariza said that mayweather tried to make the fight with Manny and arum and many rejected it look it up on you tube Algeri or maidana lets see who is the tougher opponent ? Because if mayweather was fighting Algeri he would get so much back lash he would have to retire that day

Posted August 30, 2014 10:34 am 


TREC

Roach is an idiot. Where does he or any one else come off thinking Floyd is shot? Because he had a tough fight with Maidana? He just dominated Conelo less than a year ago. Complete idiot. PAC is much more on the down hill than PBF.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:32 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Marquez Kicked the F”’ing s@@T out of Pac whose shot now??

Posted August 30, 2014 10:22 am 


red

Dumb ass writer is confused that Freddie Roach wants his 5 or 6 losses fighter Pac-Man to get a fight with the “shot” undisputed undefeated multiple weight number one P4P fighter in the sport today…..
Does East side Boxing employ 5 year old’s to write this crap?

IDIOT!!

Posted August 30, 2014 10:21 am 


MannyKnowsPEDS

Pacs an $8M fighter a washed up desperate fighter so he has to use Floyds name to stay relevant! Pacs lost 6 times now and drawn 5 times he is not a ppv star and now cant generate north of 500k in buys. Pac fights in China now because he nolonger has an American audience and is no longer relevant. MEANWHILE Floyd breaks the PPV Record of 2.5M ppv buys and is the highest paid sportsman in the world 3 years in a row making over $125,000,000 a year. WHOS SHOT NOW……………………. ?

Posted August 30, 2014 10:20 am 


packyow

Sissy boy Algieri is gonna outbox pac?…phleasse..geez, the writing on this site keeps getting worse ..

Posted August 30, 2014 10:19 am 


murderman

Roach is the one who is shot! Obvious they must think pac is shot by putting him in with Algebra who has no power and at a catchweight no less! Hmmmm

Posted August 30, 2014 10:14 am 


Dan D

Freddie Roach, you are a total fool.

Posted August 30, 2014 10:08 am 



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