ronklitschkos could make biggest payday in boxing fighting each other, not like they havent before!!!!! Posted November 3, 2012 6:09 pmSREDMONDRay Leonard did not become GREAT by saying hey “I can beat Hearns and Hagler” he laced up and booked those wins!! Instead we have V Klits somewhat riding off his brothers coattails and leeching more credit due any boxer who lost a 6 round bout 10 years ago, while becoming the standard bearer for massive tissue damage in the process… I was at the Malignaggi/Cano fight at Barclays and guys were saying they had not seen cut as bad as Canos since Lewis opened Klits up…. If the guy wants credit then go make a fight WAY better than Charr who also went down due to cuts Lol Posted November 3, 2012 5:12 amSREDMONDALOT of Vitali Klitsckos status amongst his fans is built on assumptions as opposed to reality… ” he could beat this person or that one” so let’s just give him the credit due guys who ACTUALLY defeated those fighters… Oh yeah, “if the Lewis fight had gone the way we wanted it then he would have won that too” while we are at it lets throw in Byrd, Ali, Foreman and anyone else we can think of… Thankfully sports works off ACTUAL accomplishments and the truth is that statistically Klits looks good but does not have the names or straps to backup his most ardent fans claims…. It’s old news but guys base about 60% of who Klits off of winning 4 rounds from a guy who others had knocked out… Vitali ain’t all that, he lost to a Great fighter that’s his biggest claim to fame… Posted November 3, 2012 5:01 amrodYes I am calling Sam Peter a bum. He is a short slow fat plodding bum with limited defense. Yes he has massive punching power and yes he had an ok chin till Wlad smashed him silly. Peter does not have the style, skill or athletic ability to compete with tall skilled athletic boxers. He was a walking punchbag for Vitali and was never going to win. Solis was the same. Posted November 3, 2012 12:56 amADI`m not saying Vitali failed or did something wrong on his route up, but equally it`s not really possible to place him at number 1 until after lewis retired, unless you want to put him above Lewis at some point before that due to his showing in that bout, so he hasn`t actually been the no1 boxer in the world for anywhere near as long as Wlad. I can see why people might say he is potentially one of the greatest ever, and that at any point during his career you might have considered him to be capable of beating the guy who WAS no1 boxer in the world, but at almost all times during his actual career there has been someone else around with a better CV – partly at least because they had the opportunity to fight better opponents. There is the assumption that Vitali would simply beat everyone that Wlad beat, and personally I think that is being unfair to Wlad. It actually makes me a little bit sick that so many heavyweights are passing up what might be their only chance to fight an ATG before he retires without absolutely screaming the house down for the fight – it`s a career defining fight for anyone, exactly the type of career defining fight that a young Vitali chased around for years. Posted November 2, 2012 8:00 pmSREDMONDtest Posted November 2, 2012 7:02 pmBeer party aka Unbiased DaneAD says ”It`s actually interesting to consider for exactly how long Vitali would have been considered the no1 HW in the world, since he couldn`t take the role until Lewis retired,” well where did Vitali fail ? because of his injury against Byrd ? come on, Vitali never avoided enyone, he didnt take eny easy path up to the Lennox fight. or just waiting for the champions to grow old. Well apart from that i pretty much agree with the rest of your comment. :-) Posted November 2, 2012 6:11 pmBeer party aka Unbiased DaneAnonymous says ”trying to call sam bum peter anything but a bum is very funny you white boys stick to hockey” piss of with your racist comment. Posted November 2, 2012 5:59 pmADIt`s actually interesting to consider for exactly how long Vitali would have been considered the no1 HW in the world, since he couldn`t take the role until Lewis retired, and he didn`t definitively rip it off Lewis. It wasn`t that much longer later that he retired, and after that point, losses aside Wlad actually built up a much better CV to my mind. I don`t really care about Wlad’s losses so much as the dominance, style and quality of his wins since that last loss – to me Vitali never actually picked up that no1 slot back off Wlad when he came back. It`s a strange situation since prime vs prime I`d pick Vitali over Wlad to win, and I don`t see Wlad getting through 6 rounds of war like Lewis and Vitali had, but fundamentally Wlads best 2-3 victories eclipse Vitali’s, and that won`t change with Vitali fighting people like Charr. I totally understand why they won`t fight eachother, but from a spectacle point of view, and having one true world champion I wish they could have. 2 or 3 fights between the K-bros could have defined the era as a titanic tussle between two of the greatest HOF’ers with each bringing out the best in eachother. Posted November 2, 2012 5:41 pmGoatVitali still crys about lewis fight! i repeat “The doctor appointed by team klitschko stopped the lewis fight,” keep hiding in germany, cash in while you still klits Posted November 2, 2012 5:20 pmmehthat would be haye. Posted November 2, 2012 11:03 amBeeer Party aka Unbiased DaneCalling the Sam Peter Vitali fought a bum is far out, but i agree that Vitali resume after his comeback isnt as good as his brother, But there are no doubt that none of Wlads opponent would have been able to beat Vitali. Even at 41 the only topfighter calling out Vitali is golddigger Haye.Vitali have to share the opponents with Wlad, and i assume that he is happy to leave some of the better oppoenents to his brother, to help him improve his legacy. But its time for Vitali to take on a very good and dangerous opponent, otherwise he might as well retire. Posted November 2, 2012 10:48 amrodThe only black american HW out there is Wilder…………a man scared to fight anyone. The brits and the Euros are the future of the division Posted November 2, 2012 7:11 amShermanatorIt’s NOT black american HW’s time, that is for sure. that is over with. hope you brothers had fun while it lasted. Posted November 2, 2012 4:46 amrodIt’s Wlads time. Vitali is done. And soon Wlad will have to prove himself against Wach, who should be interesting based on size alone. Pulev and Price and very dangerous and there are many up and comers. Finally the division is looking interesting Posted November 2, 2012 1:00 amMatt Sullivan“goat,” a silly fool that has to live 9 years in the past. yes, lewis was a great hw and vitali gave him all he could handle. nothing wrong with that. this is klitschko time, lewis had his time and is done. get over it. Posted November 2, 2012 12:43 amrodWlad over the past 5 or so years has faced much better opponents that VItali. Wlad for the last 5 years has been the real champ. Vitali who fought Lewis, Sanders, Kirt Johnson Danny Williams was a beast but when he came back from retirement he was not the same beast. Sam Peter – Bum, Gomez- way past his prime , too small, cant hurt Vitali, Sowsonski – untested unworthy bum who later got smashed but Dimitrenko, Kevin Johnson – all he had was a jab that that got him to the end of 12. Briggs – A total joke, should have never got a shot, embarrassing opponent. Arreola, was a fat walking punchbag. Solis- Too short to reach Vitali, an opponent so fat he hurt his own knee. Ademek, highly skilled but just too small to hurt vitali. Chisora, a man Haye smashed to pieces in 5 rounds. And Charr, a total joke. No sorry when you are the world champ you face the very best fighters out there and looking at these opponents I have to say there are much more dangerous fighters than these guys who are basically either too small or to fat to compete with Vitali. The world has seen 2 Vitalis, the pre retirement Vitali – A lethal killing maching. And a post retirement Vitali – A man fighting easy opponents for his style. At least Wlad is facing Wach, a man bigger than him. Vitali only faced one man his own size and that was a 12 rounds war. Shame we did not see more of that. I am not a vitali hater I am a VItali fan but I am a fan of the pre retirement killing maching. Time to give it up Posted November 2, 2012 12:33 amgoatThe doctor appointed by team klitschko stopped the fight, for vitali’s safety under wbc rules. that face was brutally cut. Vitali has won a few fights by doctor stoppage, so he knows how it is. Lewis is one of the greatest HW of all time, why do you think wladimir used lewis’s trainer. hahahahaha Posted November 2, 2012 12:28 amSREDMONDAlso note that UNLIKE Wlad, Louis was the ONLY path to the HW Championship… Klits has NOT unfied all the belts and spent most of his tenure defending the lightly regarded WBO belt…. Joe Louis was TRULY king of the hill during his reign, whereas despite the fact he has been the BEST HW around for a few years now, Wlad shares his kingdom like kindly monarch (Vitali) instead of cruel dicator…. Posted November 1, 2012 9:37 pmSREDMONDWlad has got a LONG way to go before he has 25 STRAIGHT defenses, I know you guys love to morph the record to accomodate the interruptions Wlad has experienced due to his TKO losses but Louis stood as Champ for what 11 years?? and was successful against 25 challengers to his throne… Call us when Wladdy is closing in on Larry Holmes, Wlads a fine fighter and if he keeps fighting scrubs like Mormeck he might defend 100 times… But as of today, try and accept him for what he is, just like accepting Vitali having his fanstasy smushed by Lewis right hands…. Both HOF fighters but lets keep things in perspective kids…. :) Posted November 1, 2012 9:34 pmwhite is rightyeah, they both seem like youtube trolls. the type of clowns that go on every klit video and say that ali, louis, holmes, etc would beat both brothers with one hand tied behind their back while standing on their heads or talking about klit losses from 10 or more years ago. no life losers… Posted November 1, 2012 9:24 pmwhite is rightthey’re hating because they are in pain on the inside. what will they do if wlad shatters the brown bomber’s record? mass suicides from brits and blacks…. Posted November 1, 2012 9:21 pmmehstating facts is not hate. Posted November 1, 2012 7:54 pmBeer party aka Unbiased Danesredmon, and meh Keep hating losers, Posted November 1, 2012 7:47 pmSREDMONDTelling these nutcases that the LOSS on Vitalis record to Lewis is not a mirage is the equivalent of telling those psychos in Salem that witches did not exist…Vitalis long list of weak foes has left them wanting for one more crack at Lewis for lacerating their boy back in the day…. Lennox could be 75 and they would consider a rematch just to give Klitscko something to discuss besides OLD Briggs and guys like Charr for Gods sake… Posted November 1, 2012 7:24 pmSREDMONDWho has been able to PROVE exactly how “most boxing fans are in the US” thats just a cop out because the Klitschkos cannot sell… Next you will say Pacquiao is popular because MOST boxing fans in the US are Filipino or simply love them!!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! Face it their nameless foes and NON-EPIC fights have relegated them to popularity in Germany…. Both are HOF worthy and HOF bound but they don’t have the type of story it takes to really shine in the annals of history… NO DEFINING FIGHTS Posted November 1, 2012 7:19 pmmeh“king sick” – you have no idea what you are talking about Posted November 1, 2012 7:00 pmmehLewis did beat Vitali fool. Chisora and Haye both won the last round of their contests, wlad ducked chisora twice and vitali is running away from his own words about wanting the fight, instead fighting someone nobody has heard of. Posted November 1, 2012 6:57 pmSREDMONDIn a country with 200 million White Residents why are the Klits not all over the place as icons and PPV kings?? Well the rap on them is that they are boring and their opponents are people the mainstream has NOT heard of…I know you think the reason the Klits are not popular here is the Black Community but commonsense and the NUMBERS tell a different story, Cotto cannot speak English as well as Wlad and he is selling, Chavez Jr cannot speak a word and he and Martinez just did 500k buys… We all know that Manny Pacquiao is a success…. Reality is the Klits are effective YET boring to many… Thus ends the story race is NOT the issue in a country that is predominatly White…. Silly Men! Posted November 1, 2012 6:57 pmBeer party aka Unbiased DaneMeh go trolling on youtube. Posted November 1, 2012 6:55 pmBeer party aka Unbiased DanePete: you dum ass, you would properly not find your own country on a map lol. A dane is a person from Denmark just like a person from the USA is an american. Posted November 1, 2012 6:53 pmKing RalphYou’re white and from Europe and a BRIT – and Brits hate the Klitschkos as none of your chumps can beat them. THAT and THAT ALONE is why you hate them. If they were one of your own it would be a different story as Brits are the most nationalistic scumbags on earth. Posted November 1, 2012 6:47 pmKing RalphScum like this low life below don’t care if the HW champion is white, so long as the HW champion is British. Posted November 1, 2012 6:45 pmmehIm a white from europe – klits are ATG but greedy two faced frauds who damaged boxing’s headline division fighting endless bums Posted November 1, 2012 6:11 pmStuttering John MelendezIt should also be noted that SREDMOND is a troll so he says whatever he needs to say to fuel the hate. Then he sits back and laughs when he gets responses. Again, not his fault. Stop feeding the troll and he will go elsewhere. Posted November 1, 2012 5:41 pmStuttering John MelendezSREDMOND and people like him are really not to blame. They are products of their environment. Black Americans are the most racist people on earth and can not be expected to embrace dominant white heavyweight champions from the Ukraine. K. Bros will just have to “settle” for being popular in Europe as it will never happen in the US for this reason. As Reem says, most boxing only fans in the US are blacks (Or Hispanics). They have no use for the Klitschkos. This has no bearing on the K Bros greatness. They would be competitive in any era. Posted November 1, 2012 5:39 pmSREDMONDNo one can MAKE another person feel or do anything unless they are God or the other person is WEAK…. I am NOT God so that must mean that “Reem” and “Hero Toe Zero” are just weak men who are easily broken down on an internet message board by a stranger who is not as keen on their favorite fighter?? Thats not a good look man grow a pair and defend your man or continue being my supplicants… :) Posted November 1, 2012 4:48 pmSREDMONDWOW I control all the pissed off dudes on ESB?? Thats a pretty lofty claim but if thats how you feel LOL….. Relax guys its boxing and we all get passionate, pointing out the obvious about Vitalis weak resume and the possibilty of him getting a shot at a NAME opponent before he retires is what it is…..Historically I am not huge on David Haye and I gave him grief after Wlad BUT he turned around and created a buzzworthy matchup by destroying an iron-chinned fighter who had Old Vitali backpedaling and getting a man hug from his little brother post fight, if Klits want his last memory to be fighting Charr in a dud fight then so be it, but it is what it is…. Man Up fellas, the crying is unbecoming :) Posted November 1, 2012 4:45 pmHero Toe ZeroReem = 100% spot on. Anyone who disagrees is in denial. SREDMOND fuels the hate on this site. Typical angry black American. Posted November 1, 2012 3:59 pmThe ScotsmanReem that is unquestionably the biggest load of crap ever posted Posted November 1, 2012 12:34 pmReemLOL so much hate here, how is it that on MMA sites the K-bros are respected all across the board? And it doesn’t have anything to do with it them being just MMA fans, most folks that comment on boxing articles are boxing fans too and know their stuff. So the reason must be the colour of the skin. Most people that watch MMA are white, while boxing only fans are mostly black. So these blackies are crying a river that the two baddest man on the planet are white. DUH! Posted November 1, 2012 7:56 amhucksterVitali knock out Haye! Posted November 1, 2012 7:35 amknowallsred. Spot on I agree Posted November 1, 2012 7:33 amSREDMONDIf Vitali is not going to fight David Haye then he might as well retire… Finding another manufactured threat that will only be condoned in Germany and by the BeerPartys, Bears, Rubes and other braindead Klit cheerlearders on this board is not going to work… The only guy available with some name recogniton and a compelling narrative is David Haye…. Beyond that another “Charr type” will put a stamp on Klits career as a monument to facing non-descript foes during a DEAD era of HW boxing… His choice, but another scrub won’t do…. Posted November 1, 2012 6:07 amHero Toe ZeroChav troll below calling Vitali ‘Quitali’ for something that happened over 12 years ago but he supports a gutless flopping toe fairy that never did s*** at heavyweight. Classic chav with no brain. If Vitali fought Gaye, of course Gaye gets KTFO but then they’d come up with more excuses. Posted November 1, 2012 4:41 ammehView Poll Results: Is it time for Quitali to stop ducking David Haye AnonymousAdmek vs. Haye nuff said Posted November 1, 2012 1:39 amzzthaye ducked Vitali for years and now when Vitali is old and slow ,british brave heart, wants to fight him so much .What a britclown. David you should wait another 4 years ,coz you know with every year your chances gets better and better ,not that you will ever have balls to fight the best fighters, but you can still be Hero in UK if you beat 55 year old Vitali. Posted November 1, 2012 1:09 amzzttoevid haye Posted November 1, 2012 1:05 amPetedane is a womans name, lol sound like he has klitschko envy, polish that pole dane, polish it with no bias, HW scene is dead Posted October 31, 2012 11:48 pmMarcus HalberstramScrew Haye. There are other fights out there. Posted October 31, 2012 9:47 pmchitownfightfanHaye vs Vitali is a great fight, yeah…….BUT….so is Mitchell vs Vitali. Helenius vs Vitali. Fury vs Vitali. Boystov vs Vitali. There are literally a dozen great fights Vitali could make if he fought on. Haye is a big fish yes, but he’s swimming in an ocean not a pond. ROFL Posted October 31, 2012 8:39 pmBeer party aka Unbiased DaneMeh: this might come as a surprise for you, but it takes two to make a rematch happen. mehWhen being “unbiased” then just because you disagree with a fact does not make it stupid. He did not rematch, that;s a fact. Lewis did beat everyone he faced, thats also a fact. Posted October 31, 2012 7:59 pmBeer party aka Unbiased DaneKnarl: that is the evenings most stupid comment, go somewhere else with your hatret and lies Posted October 31, 2012 7:56 pmmehthey only have one spine between them, hence the rematch clauses that are insane! Posted October 31, 2012 7:12 pmKnarlI loved Lewis and Tyson because these guys naturally executed their game, Klitschkos fight no ones, there record is embarrassing, lewis beat every opponent he ever faced, wladimir didnt have the spine to avenge his defeats. Posted October 31, 2012 6:48 pmknowallrod = bitter Posted October 31, 2012 6:31 pmrodthe bitterness towards haye = well deserved and earned. very funny that the chavs are back on the bandwagon and ready for their hero to serve them up some more misery. go suck his toe for him. biggest hw fraud in the last decade, easily. Posted October 31, 2012 6:16 pmmehVItali won by coming 3rd? Did he “win the event” again? Posted October 31, 2012 6:16 pmmehThe bitterness towards haye = worry Posted October 31, 2012 6:12 pmWiansdo not fight gaye and give him another payday – go off into your new career in politics and let haye and his chavs rot. Posted October 31, 2012 3:50 pmGunga DinGuess what, Vitaly’s UDAR party has already won, coming in third at 14% of the vote and taking some 40 out of 450 seats in the Parliament. Vitaly has lots to prove in politics and as this will consume most of his time, he is very likely to retire soon… Posted October 31, 2012 2:42 pmThe KingslayerHurry up and make the Haye fight already. Posted October 31, 2012 2:19 pmDGMore likely Vitaliy will retire. He cannot fight tall young fighters like Price or Helenious, and fast fighters with power like Haye, unless they got injury and he escapes with the easy win like with Charr or Solis. Posted October 31, 2012 11:36 amDGWladimir vs Povetkin is not a boxing, it’s punishment for Povetkin for the fight with Hook where he was awarded with the win. Posted October 31, 2012 11:31 amDaly jrBoth Klitschkcshgckhos should have been stripped of there titles by now for not fighting eachother. This crap with governing bodies not ranking other governing bodies champions is BULL!!!! The K’s should have been forced to fight eachother years ago. All this junk saying it would break there fathers heart. Well im sure it would break my dads heart if i got whooped too. Does that mean i wouldnt be forced to defend my title against the number 1 contender? Posted October 31, 2012 8:50 amBrazilian Boxing Fan. To Mr. Joseph HerronI believe Vitali should fight the winner of the Arreola-Stiverne fight next… then, if he wins, he should fight Haye. I think he would win. Then he could retire… and I hope he wins his election. Posted October 31, 2012 8:19 amChrispovetkin is a pu***y and haye doesnt deserve it. retire, you have earned it. Posted October 31, 2012 8:01 amknowallthanks for pointing out who the champions are…………. we didnt know Posted October 31, 2012 7:53 amSwedish Boxing FanWell Vitali Klitschko will be 42 years old next year and in recent fights his age have started to show, but he is still a WBC title champion and the 2nd best heavyweight in the world right after his younger nr.1# listed brother Wladimir Klitschko the Lineal, WBA, IBF, WBO and IBO heavyweight champion of the world. I want Wladimir vs. Povetkin. Vitali’s fights are good but not that interesting or exciting either. Posted October 31, 2012 7:15 amkosciuszkoAgree, a fight with Povetkin would be a good seller. Though after seeing what cap’n Huck did to him, who fights at CW, I expect Vitali would smash him up. Thats if Povetkin grows some, and actually gets in the ring with him. Posted October 31, 2012 5:00 amknowallFight on. Still got another year and a half left in the tank. A haye fight will make you top bucks and a chance to beat the only other guy to have a title in a long time. Another fight would be Povetkin. What a way to then go out Posted October 31, 2012 4:33 amjulianSREDMOND to begin hijacking this topic in 3…2…1…. Posted October 31, 2012 4:05 am |
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