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SREDMOND

Yeah MK its really been revealed as he beats FIGHTER after FIGHTER the guy extended MOST 11 or 12 rounds and none could get to him….Like Froch said he was “either too far away or two close”….. Andre Ward P4P player and the future of boxing

Posted November 7, 2012 4:40 pm 


SREDMOND

MK, Ward the UNDERDOG stole Kesslers balls and his manhood NOT his belts… Those he took off him by bullying and beating him up… Cry Mikkel, Cry you ain’t getting back a damn thing… And he (Ward) beat Froch with a broken hand… Neither man is on Wards level….

Posted November 7, 2012 4:30 pm 


SREDMOND

“Ward is a good Amateur style fighter” who stopped Kessler and beat Froch via UD and had him contemplating retirement LOL….If this type of fighter was able to take these two apart then based on your statement Froch and Kessler must be trash?? How did you decide that 40,000 would be present in Denmark?? Because Kessler did big #’s with Calzaghe?? That pales in comparison to the number of HBO or Showtime guys that can view the fight…. Besides Kesslers the LOSER he has to accept WHATEVER Ward offers its not even a real discussion….

Posted November 7, 2012 4:28 pm 


Boxtradamus

Kessler got SPANKED and cried like a SISSY rather than retaliate. SO he relinquished his belt. Nothing was stolen.

Posted November 7, 2012 3:04 pm 


MK

Thinking there would be no money in a Kessler vs Ward fight in front of more than 40000 fans, and many more watching in America, from Denmark is downright wrong. The fight will not take place in Denmark, Sauerland stated clearly that Magee is Kesslers last fight in Denmark. You surely need a lot of misdirection and lies to defend Ward never fighting on equal terms. For me Kessler and Froch are the warriors in the smw division. Ward is a good amateur style fighter, they better keep in Oakland. Kessler has never ever said so himself, but Ward stole his belt that night in Oakland. Clearly all will be revealed.

Posted November 7, 2012 5:21 am 


SREDMOND

Damn I keep forgetting my name-SREDMOND below

Posted November 6, 2012 6:00 pm 


Anonymous

There is NO WAY that a Champ of Ward stature should travel to beat Kessler who he alread stopped… There is nothing going on in Denmark that matters and if Kessler wants to come get the title tell him to get in shape and try and pull and Allan Green on Ward who already whipped his ass…. I am NOT hearing any other well respected Champions being dictated to by guys who they stroked before….Should Klits have gone to Washington DC to go face Tony Thompson second time around??? I think not…All roads lead to the Champ and history dictates you beat him on his ground…. Calzaghe choose to operate AWAY from the BEST in the US and thus his coming out party was against Jeff Lacy of all people…. The US is still the mecca and thats just a fact in the boxing game… Khan, Hatton, Pacquiao and Cotto all sought stardom here…. Stop being scared we all know Mikkel cannot beat Ward and neither can Froch or Dawson who had to QUIT…

Posted November 6, 2012 5:59 pm 


SREDMOND

“Stay at home contender” WTF is that? If a fighter is going to build a fanbase they have to dig in and start doing so…You don’t get BIG in the sport of boxing by fighting in Denmark or Nottingham you do it by fighting in the US…. The wealthiest boxers ALL compete in the US absent the Klitschkos beyond that the paydays of these other guys are barely worth mention…If you are not getting dollars from HBO or Showtime then you are gonna to make peanuts on a relative basis… Most fighters dream of being a Mayweather, Pacquiao or Cotto economically….

Posted November 6, 2012 4:18 pm 


SREDMOND

SREDMOND comment below

Posted November 6, 2012 3:29 pm 


Anonymous

There is NOT an intelligent comparison between Calzaghe having 20 defenses over what 10 years and Ward having a few mostly through a tourney he had NO control over… The minute he began beating down fighters the FANS of the fighters he beat started lobbing excuses… Why was Kessler favored if Ward had some sort of advantage over him?? If you consider being at home such an insurmountable advantage then why would you advocate for Kessler who had WAY more fights, had fought the best SMW of the past several years in a competitive match and was favored to win the tourney fight Ward in Denmark????????? By your rationale EVERYTHING imaginable would have been in Kesslers favor and thus the result would have been invalid if Ward lost?? Again this is YOUR thinking or a spin or the flipside of it….By your rationale the SECOND a guy has a win at home he is failing to chase lackeys???

Posted November 6, 2012 3:28 pm 


SREDMOND

One Inch punch, your assertions that the fighters that Chad Dawson do not matter because they occurred at LHW is ridiculous… By that logic had Ward moved up and lost it would have been irrelevant because Dawson is a LHW and thus the results are null and void… Reality is that Dawson made his mark at 175 and his accomplishments at that weight are 50% of the reason that this was a highly anticipated fight…. Either you are open to fighters facing each other in different divisions or you are NOT but you cannot have it both ways if you don’t like the result or the fighter who achieved them…Bottomline is that Ward is atop the P4P list because he is beating the best guys around BADLY and as per usual the excuses are flowing

Posted November 6, 2012 3:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Joe Calzaghe did not fight in the US till his LAST 2 contests his 44th and 45th boxing matches… Andre Ward has had a TOTAL of 26 fights and won the WBA Championship only TWO years ago beating Kessler during the opening round of the Super 6 tournery where Kessler was favorite and the tourney was set by those who sponsored it (Showtime) ….. Joe Calzaghe defended what?? 20 times and only game to the BIG stage two bouts ago there is NO comparison between Calzaghes unwillingness to travel to the US and face the best in their primes vs Ward who was simply in the process of becoming a Champ and destroyed all relevant comp FASTER than Calzaghe EVER did…

Posted November 6, 2012 2:55 pm 


OneInchPunch

again you missed the point…. Joe C was labelled a stay at home Champ…. i did not mention the end of his career or who faced, just comparing accusations/comment that are now being levelled at Ward…. which is a fair criticism and comparison. As for Dawson…. i just cut and pasted your own words which was used to booster Wards defeat of Dawson… which was not at LH as you have stated… with that in mind… it does not matter who Dawson beat at LH regarding Ward. when (not that it will happen) Ward faces Dawson at LH then it might have some meaning regarding (your word again) “wins over Adamek, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson and most other relevant LHW’s”. PS for the record i did not have Dawson to win. Ward at present is a stay at home champ (and was a stay at home contender), just like Joe C & Sven Ottke (just comparing SMW) and like it or not this is the accusation/criticism of Ward. If is born out of the super six where he refused to travel outside the US. Every other participant conceded and agreed to get on a plain…. With one exception… Guess who!! And which I think is fair. As he’s you homeboy you think this is unfair comment…

Posted November 6, 2012 10:22 am 


SREDMOND

Dawson called out Ward at 168 so whats the issue??? Had he won there would have been NO issue, since he lost here go the excuses… To his credit Dawson offered NO excuses for QUITTING he said Wards too strong and faster than he thought… Kessler had all the advantages against Ward, seasoning, he fought Calzaghe and he was favored… Ward was simply a better, tougher fighter than Kessler and the next beating for Mikkel is going to prompt retirement talks… Face it’s Froch, Dawson and Kessler cannot compete, Ward has not lost since he was 12 years old…

Posted November 6, 2012 10:01 am 


SREDMOND

Ward became Champ by virtue of a grueling tourney where he had to face the best in the world during their prime…He has just begun his Championship reign, Calzaghe was at the END of his career when he faced 2 OLD Champs, one badly faded… Ward had no equals due to beating Kessler,Froch and the rest in dominant fashion… Truth be told Ward does not even need to face these guys, absent Dirrel he cleaned out the division… HW boxing aside Europe is NOT the Mecca of boxing… The US is the Big stage and Wards winning here!! As for Dawson he called Ward out at 168 and got his ass destroyed there are always excuses post Beatdown , just like the ones flowing for Froch and Kessler..

Posted November 6, 2012 9:55 am 


OneInchPunch

SREDMOND – you make assertion regarding how much $$$ Kessler makes. Ward is not a big draw, he’s has really yet to sell out a big stadium, is he really PPV?? his biggest draw was against Dawson… who in my mind was weight drained…. you stated “Chad Dawson who owns wins over Adamek, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson and most other relevant LHW’s”. the main point of this is LHW… will Ward fight him at LH…. i think we all know the answer to that… a resounding NO. You will simple state he does not need to… but i think to the contra… he does. Likewise he should travel to face Kessler or Kessler should force the issue and we will see if the HBO will back Ward as you thing they will. The same accusations were levelled at Joe C… stay at home Joe Cal… ect ect. Ward is getting the same comments levelled at him.

Posted November 6, 2012 8:16 am 


get a passport

sorry but he does have someting to prove.. he’s never travelled to face a champion…
Ward fought Kessler is his own back yard when Kessler was the belt holder… Froch travelled to Kessler’s back yard when he was a belt holder. Even Bute (never rated him) travelled to Froch’s back yard when he was a belt holder…. Ward seems not to have a passport and would not fight in the Super six outside the US. Is ward a future start?? could be… but i hope Kessler and Co stall on the negotiations and force purse bids, if that’s happens and he is forced to fight outside the US… we will see if he takes the challenge like Kessler, Froch & Bute.

Posted November 6, 2012 7:38 am 


MK

Every time someone brings up Wards fear of fighting on equal terms, (headbutting Kessler, refusing to meet Dawson at a catchweight, always fighting at home, in a little room) you go right to the conclussion -Ward cleaned up the smw division, he has nothing to prove. How is he going to make money then, because noone will travel to Oakland and the Lhw division is at a lowpoint, with deeply boring fighters. By the way, Bute was rated very highly by the same people, who rate the sleepingpill highly now. Well, noone cares if Ward fight or don’t fight.

Posted November 6, 2012 5:43 am 


SREDMOND

MK the ONLY thing NOT right with Wards career is that he is destroying fighters that YOU like…Other than that he has taken on the best and he has beat them CLEARLY…He is Ring Magazine and ESPN fighter of the Year for 2011…. Its pretty GREAT being Andre Ward right about now considering the paint job he just did on Dawson… You are a SERIOUS sore loser and its obvious… :)

Posted November 5, 2012 6:07 pm 


SREDMOND

How do you figure there is “only money fighting Kessler and Froch” some would debate that those bouts are a tad meaningless given their conclusiveness… Froch beat a far more well respected boxer in Bute than Allan Green so the hype is better for Cobra Carl… Chad Dawson had a HIGH profile and Showtime and HBO both know that Ward is a future star hence the amount of interviews he has been on during various telecasts ie Pacquiao/Bradley…. Ward is destined for 175 and who knows what the future holds… Kessler and Froch don’t bring BIG money thats ridiculous….

Posted November 5, 2012 6:05 pm 


SREDMOND

No need for you to recognize Ward as “Champion” because Ring Mag, WBA, WBC and all credible bodies do… He is one of the most vetted fighters in a given division in the sport… I guess the Super 6 and all his fights are simply farces..I guess you give him EXTRA credit for beating Froch since you discuss physical difficulties and we know he had a bad hand while handing out that beating…Ward was the Ring Magazine and ESPN fighter of the year for 2011, and if I am correct his trainer is one of the most sought after in the biz now, courtesy of his success with Ward…. The blessing of an internet bozo is not necessary LOL

Posted November 5, 2012 5:52 pm 


MK

All I know, is that Wards people are scared to death of Ward fighting a name on equal terms. I respect Wards technical skills, speed and movement, but we all know that Ward is a paper champion. Something is not right with Ward’ career. I want to see Ward on deep waters, fighting a name in top shape, away from home. Honestly, you can’t recognize a paper champ, unless he fights on equal terms. Bute and Ward are very much the same, There is only money for Ward in Kessler or Froch fights. Lhw forget it.

Posted November 5, 2012 5:24 pm 


SREDMOND

All roads lead to SOG as it pertains to SMW and possibly LHW… he jumped the line and stopped Dawson who had never been beaten down like that… He is getting BETTER and striking with GREATER force….It should be noted that he had Froch buzzed and on the ropes during their battle as well… Its Wards time and he is proving himself every night instead of manufacturing excuses the way his deposed foes and their fans are forced to…

Posted November 5, 2012 4:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Ward fought Kessler as underdog in his hometown before he was even the guy he is now… Everyone though Kessler would wear him out but lo and behold… NOW the excuse makers wanted Ward to BOTH be the underdog and fight Kessler in Denmark of all places??? Kessler barely even deserves a rematch he is OLD business and Ward has taken off like shooting star by booking and even more impressive win than Mikkel…. Cool let him come in and take beating #2, cause its coming…

Posted November 5, 2012 3:38 pm 


SREDMOND

It says everything about Kessler that he LOST to Ward when he had MORE experience and was slated to win…If Ward can ONLY win in Oakland then why did he whip Froch’s ass with a broken hand in Atlantic City??? The same Froch that lost a razor thin decision over Kessler and has booked wins over Pascal, Abraham, and slaughted Bute??? After fighting Ward and being befuddled Froch contemplated retirement… Dawson and Froch WISHED that Ward only held and did not punch them in the face…Reality is that venue is an excuse that is plausible if a fight is close and the judges hold sway…. The English judge BURIED Froch because it was clear that Ward was taking it to him in brilliant technical fashion…. If Ward is unbeatable in Oakland then tell Kessler NOT to come to the US and fight….

Posted November 5, 2012 3:25 pm 


MK

Lets be honest here -the only place Ward can beat Kessler is in Oakland. Americans love Kesslers style and have always done so. Ward has yet to fight a name on equal terms. There are clear rules when it comes to place of fighting. Wards game is jab, hold, punch when there is a break and move away. Take these things away from him, and he is a fine technical fighter, not less not more. Therefore place of fight means so lot concerning this Kessler vs Ward 2 fight. It says a lot about Ward that he will not travel to Europe. To earn money, in the smw division, he will have to at some point.

Posted November 5, 2012 2:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Ward was underdog against Kessler who was favored to beat EVERYONE and instead Kessler got abused by Ward and he barely got by Froch whereas Ward had and easy night with both guys…. Whats not to like about the way Andre Ward does his business??

Posted November 5, 2012 1:32 pm 


SREDMOND

Why would I not be in Wards corner??? he is a TERRIFIC fighter who has taken on all comers and beat Kessler down when he was still young in the game with 20 fights…. He went thru a gauntlet of a tourney and dominated the best 168 pounders in the world..How many guys in the modern era are cleaning out a division then moving on??? As an encore to winning the Super 6 he fights Chad Dawson who owns wins over Adamek, Hopkins, Tarver, Johnson and most other relevant LHW’s absent Tavoris Cloud…So yes I am NOT a fan of these excuses and the desire to put control of the terms in the hands of a previously beaten challenger (Kessler)…. Anymore questions?

Posted November 5, 2012 1:08 pm 


OneInchPunch

The highest bid win if it goes to purse pids….. thats not dreaming just a plain reality. Fact is i said it will be intreasting… Concessions in a closed bids?? get real.. the rule are clear if it goes to bids. See the thing is you are asuming i am a Kessler fan… no. but i can see you are in Wards corner

Posted November 5, 2012 12:27 pm 


SREDMOND

MK’s stance typifies the ignorance and staunch denial of reality that pervades the mind of fanatical fans… He claims that Kessler is a bigger name than Ward in the US…. Andre Ward has done commentary on major fights with Manny Steward and he has fought on both HBO and Showtime multiple times…. He is the WINNER of the Super 6 and he is both “Ring Champion” and WBC and WBA beltholder… He just TKOed a guy who has been considered the best or second best LHW fighter in the World… Ward is FAR more well known and visible in the US than Kessler who’s name in only on the tips of hardcore fans tongues…. Since when is Denmark the mecca of boxing LMAO???????? Its not thats Las Vegas, and Oakland is alot closer to Vegas than Denmark… You guys are ridicuolous and bitter than Kessler got his ass beat and Ward won the Super 6 hands down…

Posted November 5, 2012 12:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Why are the Klitschkos NOT fighting outside of Europe??? BECAUSE they are Champions and have earned the right to have guys fight on their terms… NOT fair?? thats boxing reality and this obsession with Kessler somehow being able to force Ward to come to his homeland is REALLY just a poorly cloaked excuse for his FIRST decisive beatdown at the hands of Ward… We have heard the samebackwards logic applied to Froch…ie he would have won in Nottingham as if guys are more amenable to getting punched in the face when away from home, FACT is neither man could stop Ward…. Chad Dawson endured the SAME fate and to his credit he has not offered any excuses except Ward was faster and stronger than he thought….. Boo YA!!

Posted November 5, 2012 11:48 am 


SREDMOND

Its utterly nonsensical to think that a guy with HBO connections, Showtime connections… The Ring Championship, and all the relevant belts is going to be forced to travel or vacate by a guy he already beatdown… All Ward has to do is be willing to face Kessler if mandated and thus ends the story… Dreaming that the venue will influence the outcome is laughable, the concessions are going to be on Kessler and Saunderlands side and those dudes are a power OUTSIDE the US around these parts we know that Top Rank, and Golden Boy run boxing…. We know Ward is NOT with either company but again Saunderlands not a player in the US and thats just a fact…

Posted November 5, 2012 11:32 am 


Anonymous

ath has got the beat

Posted November 5, 2012 10:49 am 


OneInchPunch

And the worst case is that… Kessler fights in the US again!!

Posted November 5, 2012 10:03 am 


OneInchPunch

That’s why i mentioned purse bids and Team Sauerland does have the clout…. That’s why this will be interesting….. would Ward team be prepare to go to bids…. if i’m not mistaken if terms can’t be reached… then purse bids are submitted… if Kessler & Team Sauerland win would he travel…. i think not. If i was Kessler i’d make it go to bids… and that’s what my moneys on. Kessler does not need to drive negotiations just not agree them… you tend to miss this point SREDMOND.
For me Team Sauerland & Kessler would be better off forcing purse bids, as this might force Ward to travel or vacate if he will not travel. That makes sense to me!!

Posted November 5, 2012 10:01 am 


MK

Funny how a filled place 40000) in Denmark, is beneath Ward, but a little room in Oakland is a natural environment for a world title fight. Kessler is a much bigger name than Ward, in Europe and the states. There is no doubt that Kessler vs Ward 2 takes place -probably in America (not Oakland). Ward fans sure are quick to dismiss a Kessler fight, or that Andre should travel to Germany, what are they so afraid of. A clean Fight?

Posted November 5, 2012 9:36 am 


SREDMOND

Kessler does NOT have the clout, money or importance to drive negotiations with Ward… Kessler is gonna have to win in the US and if he feels he cannot then just don’t fight Ward again, he’s gonna be a BIG underdog anyway… His style is too easy for Andre to adjust to and dominate he’s a solid fighter with a basic approach, but Ward has too many tools… Forget Denmark, that’s just not gonna happen nor should it, nothing’s in that country and it offers no additional exposure for either man on the biggest stage… Kesslers gonna get FAR less money? And he will have to get on a plane, that’s what happens when you are facing a guy with Wards standing who has already dusted you BADLY…

Posted November 5, 2012 9:04 am 


OneInchPunch

If Ward v Kessler happens…. i would put $$$ on it going to purse bids and will Ward travel?? a big sell-out stadium in Germany rather than Denmark would be the key… is Ward that bigger attraction and ticket seller in the US?? i would say no…. it might look like the man has to travel or give it up the belt. Going to an interesting negotiation or purse bids!! As I think Kessler and Co will want him to travel to Kessler’s back yard.

Posted November 5, 2012 8:02 am 


Anonymous

SREDMOND… Ward won a technicall descision over Kessler NOT a tko. Get your facts straight before you start yapping up.

Posted November 5, 2012 7:20 am 


MK

In normal circumstances Kessler beats Magee, who is underrated, in the light of Butes terrible performance against a bum, I just hope that Kessler is injury freand in shape.

Posted November 5, 2012 6:54 am 


SREDMOND

Kessler could have his mother and the referee and he will emerge from that ring a LOSER… Ward is a fighter on the upside of his career, we have not seen Kessler get a convincing victory over a TOP fighter in quite awhile… UNLESS you think that Allan Greene id something special???

Posted November 4, 2012 8:30 pm 


SREDMOND

Ward is rated appropriately as one of the best in the sport, UNLESS you think Dawson, Froch, Kessler, Abraham, and Bika were all crap fighters??? In order to invalidate Andre Wards achievements you have to dismiss the rankings for SMW and the best LHW despite him fighting at 168….. Is the sport wrong about ALL these boxers???? Its not a remotely valid assertion, Ward has dominated the best fighters put in front of him… Kessler TKO, Dawson TKO/QUIT, Froch UD completely outboxed… The better the fighter, the more immaculate the performance by SOG….. FACTS

Posted November 4, 2012 8:28 pm 


ath.

Anonymous says: ” Shred quit sucking off Ward. He his way overated. He is also dirty as Jim Grey points out” :-) Ward is afro american so sredmond will defend him no matter what.

Posted November 4, 2012 2:05 pm 


Anonymous

Shred quit sucking off Ward. He his way overated. He is also dirty as Jim Grey points out

Posted November 4, 2012 12:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Ward fought the Super 6 under the rules of the tourney and he faced the BEST 168 pounders in the world and beat them in succession… He beat the BEST LHW in the World and made him QUIT… You guys can try and discredit Ward for not facing a previously beaten Lackey in a country that offers NO important exposure but it’s not gonna happen and serial whining is in your future…Ward stopped Chad Dawson, Kessler stopped Allan Greene NO comparison… The ships sailed Ward is P4P # 5 in the world, Ring Champ and Super 6 Champ…. It’s over guys the World belongs to Andre Ward, Kessler, Froch and Co are playing for a DISTANT 2nd…

Posted November 4, 2012 12:43 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Well…Magee can punch….but it will have to be a lucky one…..Atleast Magee comes to fight…and this fight is his icing on the cake..So yeah, i don’t think this will be a walkover…but i do expect Kessler to win.

Posted November 4, 2012 12:21 pm 


Anonymous

So, does anyone think Magee could upset Kessler?

Posted November 4, 2012 11:21 am 


Anonymous

I would agree with you that Denmark is unimportant in so far as geopolitics are concerned. In boxing too, actually. If Ward were a travelling champ with great road history, recognised as a worthy champ, I would agree that Kessler should come to Oakland again. However, that is not the case. Across the board, fans are scolding André for his unwillingness to travel or even to have inpartial refs and ringside judges. For Ward to gain recognition, he needs to travel and fight a name fighter abroad. Froch in Nottingham or Kessler in Copenhagen seem tge obvious choices.

Posted November 4, 2012 11:17 am 


Anonymous

I dont think you would call neither ward nor kessler an easy night’s work for anyone in any weight class from 175 and down

Posted November 4, 2012 11:09 am 


Anonymous

Lol:-)

Posted November 4, 2012 10:00 am 


Anonymous

All right, buddy (he says, backing off with a smile and wide eyes)

Posted November 4, 2012 9:58 am 


Anonymous

Again, you talk out of your ass. First, you clearly have no idea of the outcome of Dawson-kessler at 168. Dawson at 168 is no match for hardly any top smw I would like to see dawson -ward at 175, tho. That wont happen of course, but it might be a more competitive fight.
Second, you ckearly haven’t seen Kessler-Froch, so I will just say that 116-112 is a clear win and that was the correct score that night. Same score as JC beat Kessler with in Cardiff. A decisive win amoung two good boxers. You Americans have a tendency to call anything but a KO or a shutout a narrow win. Watch the fight in stead of jerking off to boxrec, mate.

Posted November 4, 2012 9:54 am 


Anonymous

Lol:-) I agree that ward may well beat Kessler again, but the only way he will stop him is if he is allowed to bring handguns into the ring. I wouldn’t be too surprised if he were, tho. Handguns are the only things he hasn’t been alliwed to use, yet, so why not just take the partial refereeing to its logical conclusion?

Posted November 4, 2012 9:45 am 


Anonymous

I agree that ward had beaten kessler on points, if the foc hadn’t called it. But kessler was in no way knocked out. For you to say that undermines your post to a degree where one has a hard time taking anything you write seriously. Fx, ehen you write that kessler is lucky to get a second fight, or that the money is in America. First off, kessler, if he beats magee, is the WBA regular champ and mandatory challenger. No luck in that, so that’s just silly for you to write. Second, the times where the money lay in America have long passed and the popularity of Kessler in Europe far outweighs Ward’s ditto in america. In Copenhagen Kessler would sell out 40.000 in a week. Ppv is the same, regardless of venue, these days, so, that’s not even an argument.

Posted November 4, 2012 9:42 am 


Anonymous

I am excited to see -who is the referee in Kessler vs Ward 2 -a british referee would all but take Wards game away from him -the holding, the punching after breaks, headbutting and all the interruption strategies that Ward count on. Some american referees allow these things -as if it is the most natural thing. A classic fighter like Kessler and Froch, will have trouble with interruption games. If I see right through Wards game plans, Kesslers trainer does too.

Posted November 4, 2012 8:45 am 


Lucas

MK I totally agree well said Ward reminds of Hopkins both fight dirty

Posted November 4, 2012 2:52 am 


Adrian

Sredmond– with all due respect but the “beating ” you say ward gave Kessler I don’t see it … I just rewatched the fight again today and what I saw was ward circling and unlike mayweather who circle but counterpunches I didn’t see ward do that , I would only say that ward found a way not to “lose” a fight but certainly by no means dominate or beat Kessler ! And I disagree with you when you say Kessler is a class below ward , they are both a class fighters and both of them will never be able to dominate eachother in the ring!

Posted November 4, 2012 2:51 am 


MK

Noone in europe regards Ward as anything other than a jab and hold fighter, he has never faced a good fighter on level terms. He fought extremely dirty against Kessler, held on for dear life against Green, met a non smw in Abraham, won over a non smw in a drained Dawson and was koed by a bum, not long ago. The most protected fighter in the world equals Andre Ward. Ward is a young Hopkins and Hopkins was never all that.

Posted November 4, 2012 12:40 am 


David Goth

I just watched a Kessler vs Ward. Dang I didnt know Ward was that dirty.

Posted November 3, 2012 11:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Andre Ward is undefeated, untouched and universally considered one of the best fighters in the sport… The ONLY tool necessary is logic, his record and statement of the facts… Caricatures like MK,Gonzo and amusing with their indefensible stances that are summarily SHAT upon with EVERY Ward victory… Why would a Champ to an unimportant country to face a challenger he knocked out?? Let Mikkel come to Daddy in order to get beating # 2…

Posted November 3, 2012 8:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Kessler is an EASY nights work for Ward at this point and the pathetic attempts of his fans to provide a path to victory are laughable… Ward easily handled him YEARS ago and has made light work of everyone he has faced… Bika gave Ward a harder fight than Kessler who could not deal with a guy who boxes on this level… Beating up Kessler again at 168 or 175 should be interesting.. And the BEST part will be the moans and excuses of his fans who turn utterly nonsensical when the Ward matchup is discussed..

Posted November 3, 2012 8:09 pm 


Juice

Ward is a won against Kessler on headbutts. ah la Bernard Hopkins = dirty !

Posted November 3, 2012 7:38 pm 


Ringside

Andre has caused fear in anyone euro,Danish,ignorant of boxing,crybabies that need all the help they can get. This will be a terrible mismatch with Kessler being stopped inside of 8rds. The boy don’t have a prayer. I’m surprised he is still fighting hiding behind his whinney promotional company

Posted November 3, 2012 6:59 pm 


Gonzo

Daly jr… Cheers, good to know :)

Posted November 3, 2012 6:36 pm 


Ringside

Good and refreshing to see helpless hopes posting on a possible fight between mikell Kessler and the man who owns him and the rest of the super middles. Please Kessler will be beat to a Danish pulp if he dares to climb in the ring with Son of God. Yes the Son of God who has kept his servant strong and victorious in the midst of his enemies. Almighty god who has made Andre’s enemy’s his footstool,who gifted him from the womb to destroy those who cross his path. If god is for you who can be against you. Continue to rest in god’s mighty peace Andre and continue to serve him with all your might as those who dare insult gods chosen suffer the continuos pain that their ignorance and hatred bring. As the great palmist wrote ….though I walk through the valley in the shadow of death I will fear no evil for thy rod and thy staff comfort me. God bless mighty warrior.

Posted November 3, 2012 6:09 pm 


Daly jr

Gonzo, you allways manage to bring a smile to my face lol

Posted November 3, 2012 5:48 pm 


Daly jr

MK, really?

Posted November 3, 2012 5:47 pm 


MK

I have no doubt that Kessler will win by Ko, Ward is open to counterboxing every time he jabs. Wards strategy is pretty transparent by now. Again this time Kessler is ready.

Posted November 3, 2012 5:25 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Hi Daly jr.. I can’t remember if I’ve trashed Mayweather recently to be honest. I know I went though a strange phase where I was possessed by the spirit of a dead Flomo about a month ago where I was all over his rat sized nuts like an STD, and I wrote a short, mildly offensive post to try and repair the damage I’d done to my impeccable reputation on her during that time. However, other than that I’m almost certain I’ve not slagged that grotesque little bastard since then though. I don’t read many of the articles or the comment sections on here as it is, so I’m guessing it was my imposter again.

Posted November 3, 2012 3:32 pm 


Daly jr

Gonzo my man, was that you on here the other day trashing mayweather? (i cant remember the thread). It didnt seem like you

Posted November 3, 2012 2:30 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Killing Moon The Soothsayer… Yeah, I don’t really think it was him either, it’s probably that clown Ringside (I think that’s his name) or some other Nation of Islam member who can’t handle hearing the truth.

Posted November 3, 2012 1:32 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Killing Moon The Soothsayer… Yeah, I don’t really think it was him either. It’s probably that clown Ringside (I think that’s his name) or some other Nation of Islam member who can’t handle hearing the truth.

Posted November 3, 2012 1:31 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

I highly doubt Sredmond would be so childish to steal others name….havn’t seen it before,so even though him and me disagree on almost everytihng…I would have to say no…And Pwned…really ?…..

Posted November 3, 2012 1:27 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

edit> impeccable

Posted November 3, 2012 1:23 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Is that you trying to stitch me up SRED? lol. If so, you’ll have to try harder bro. I have many enemies on here ie. the countless fools I have pwned on countless occasions, and my reputation is impecable on here. I’ve never lost a single debate in all my time on this site and I have destroyed more Ward fans than attenbd his fights, which is not that many in the grand scheme of things by the way. This imposter is clearly one of them. lol

Posted November 3, 2012 1:22 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Lol Killing Moon.

Posted November 3, 2012 1:17 pm 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Unless it involes scat….i’ll never believe it’s really you Gonz

Posted November 3, 2012 1:16 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I’ve only made one comment in this thread by the way, the first one. All those other comments were written by an imposter.

Posted November 3, 2012 1:14 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Killing Moon and Anonymous Don’t cut these monkeys any slack. The brotherhood should declare bold and loud that any Ward lover will get lynched on this Ward vsKessler debate. And to the jerk who thought it was funny that I got jumped why don’t you take on 2 intoxicated Ward fueled up Mexicans and see how you like it. I’m a big guy but I never played sports. I was a Cub Scout and was in the school choir. My mom didn’t let me play sports so I played a lot with my sisters. Probably explains why my out bursts on here has female overtones. I just hate ward and it sickens me that he beat up the only fighter that I have a signed poster of on my wall.

Posted November 3, 2012 1:05 pm 


Popkins

Kessler v Ward 2 has potential to be a close, competitive fight..But if it happens in Ward’s back garden again, with SOG’s hand picked ref, I ain’t watching it.

Posted November 3, 2012 12:25 pm 


SREDMOND

Its better to hug Wards nuts as the rightful winner of the Super 6, P4P fighter and the first guy to knockout Chad Dawson who had wins over Tarver, Johnson, Hopkins and Adamek than it is to dream Kessler can beat him with Ward proved to be tougher and technically superior… He out did Joe Calzaghe by plenty UPSETTING the favored Kessler and proved it was NO fluke by dominating the next several world class opponents he faced culminating in the KO of Dawson who would have made light work of Kessler… I like Mikkel but he is NOT on Wards level and he BARELY even got past Froch

Posted November 3, 2012 11:37 am 


Anonymous

Kessler wasn’t stopped by ward. He was stopped by the doc for cuts after suffering several head butts and elbows from ward – right in front of the partial judge. Kessler was never even stunned by feather fisted ward.
His fists are feathered, but his forehead is packing heat!

Posted November 3, 2012 11:01 am 


SREDMOND

The nuts on here want to change the nature of Championship boxing by deciding on a message board that ALL results that don’t occur on Kesslers terms are invalid LOL!!! Sorry Ward did not win a close decision he took Kessler apart like he(Mikkel) did not know how to fight..You guys might asawell NOT watch this bout because its not going to happen in Denmark, the money is here and Kessler is a previously KNOCKED OUT challenger who is LUCKY to even get another shot…. Carl Froch who was dominated has more argument for a rematch because he beat a Champion in Bute BADLY and he actually went 12 rounds…. Kesslers just going to have to take his beating in the US again…. Sorry Kids!!

Posted November 3, 2012 10:40 am 


SREDMOND

Kessleris NEVER going to be able to dictate to Ward the terms because he is NOT on Wards level for about 10 reasons…. So guess what if he is gonna win he will need something more than excuses and ardent fans to pull him outta there..Ward will be supremely confident and prepped for the relatively stiff Kessler, this is an EASY fight considering the way he destroyed and athlete of Dawsons caliber…. Dawson was tall, strong, fast aand left handed and he was used and abused by Ward like an amateur…. We witnessed the ascension of a Champion and an epic performance…. Kessler knocking out Alan Green was fun but we all know Green is a serial loser and a pretender at the top level, booking losses to Johnson,Miranda and I mean seriously Green got stopped by Johnson and you think this readies Mikkel for Ward?? This is just gonna be another wipeout the MK’s of the world won’t except because Kesslers mom was not the ref or it did not occur in the backyard of his childhood home while 5 midgets are strapped to Wards back, and his hand tied behind his back….Kesslers a good fighter, Ward is proving to be GREAT the gap is massive…

Posted November 3, 2012 10:36 am 


SREDMOND

Kessler is a really good fighter byt he is a CLASS below Andre Ward…. Ward dusted him and he dusted Froch, Kessler had to struggle with Froch and obviously got manhandled and stopped by Ward when Andre had nowhere NEAR the experience at the World level he does now… If Mikkel thinks knocking out Allan Green who who LOST to an OLD Glen Johnson is gonna prep him for another bout with Andre Ward who just knocked out the BEST LHW in the world you are sorely mistaken…It will be a massacre and you guys will want a rematch on the moon LOL

Posted November 3, 2012 10:18 am 


MK

Kessler is pure class, and I just don’t recognize the Ward victory in Oakland, due to so many dirty tricks. I am not saying that Ward is less than he is, he is a clever hometown fighter, but he will get hit with some bombs this time, against Kessler, it will be a war, people are on to Wards game. If the fight takes place in Oakland again, it is a joke. My big questions are -can Ward take a punch and will he be allowed to hold the same way. I don’t believe for a second that Kessler can lose to Ward outside Oakland, with a decent referee.

Posted November 3, 2012 10:07 am 


Popkins

Lol @ Shane…. Ward beats the No.1 at Light heavy – sure he did. Dawson was drained down to 168 and had already lost to Pascal – the same Jean who was duffed up by Froch and a post Calzaghe Hopkins.

Posted November 3, 2012 9:21 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

Make this fight happen on neutral ground(which it will not) The refs not in Wards pocket(which they will be) and no shannanigans to throw Kessler off prefight(yeah right)

Kessler can and will beat Ward this time even if the fight is not fought fair…yes you heard it here first….If he wins great for the div. if he lose he’ll fight a retirement fight against Froch…This is win win for everyone even Ward if he fights abroad (which he won’t) But Kessler is pure class and anyone who can’t see it knows squat about boxing.

Posted November 3, 2012 8:28 am 


Anonymous

Np, Im a white guy and gonzo is not:-)
He is just a ward fan with his facts mixed up.

I will ger on the ward bandwagon when he beats kessler in Denmark.

Posted November 3, 2012 8:03 am 


Anonymous

Fighting revelo from NJ in the caymans and cantrell from WA in saint lucia is not the same as fighting mundine in australia, calzaghe in wales and ward in Oakland.

Posted November 3, 2012 8:00 am 


truth

Thank you anonymous. This gonzo is taking stuff a little to far

Posted November 3, 2012 7:55 am 


MK

I realize that Ward is a great technical fighter, but saying that Kessler has no chance, against a boxer, who can’t punch (Dawson just doesnt count) and that the fight will be the same outside of Oakland, is weird thinking. The point is, if Ward is not allowed to punch and hold, what happens to his game, if Kessler hits him with a bomb, which is very likely during a long fight, what happens then. Ward was Koed before by a bum. Kessler will clearly come in with a new trainer and a new strategy and a new referee, and a new venue. He will take out Ward this time. You cannot be recognized as a champ, when you never fight on equal terms. Lets see if Ward is all that, when Kessler throws his bombs.

Posted November 3, 2012 6:01 am 


KOrnerman

Ward should never got away with the butts against Kessler but he did and that won him the fight,not punches or skill- HEADBUTTS!

Posted November 3, 2012 5:42 am 


KOrnerman

Who wants to watch Wards horrible style, he’s not interested in entertaining anyone but himself and it shows in the ring.

Posted November 3, 2012 5:39 am 


truth

Kessler can beat Ward if the fight has neutral venue and ref, Darnell Boone proved Ward can be hurt and he should have a loss on his record after his 14 second count to get up and stumble to his corner, should go good with Amere Con.

Posted November 3, 2012 5:38 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

All great champions travel (remember Ali’s bum of the month tour) So to gain any credibility Ward’s gonna have to start getting his passport out & travel outside of the USA. Whatever anyone say’s about Froch & MaGee, no one can accouse them of being home town fighters. Ward’s in danger of going down in history as one of the most boring boxers ever. Ward vs Kessler in Denmark or Germany, or MaGee in the UK would sell massively.

Posted November 3, 2012 4:46 am 


Anonymous

Normal people run things now,as it was before.

Posted November 3, 2012 3:56 am 


For a laugh

Lets bomb Pearl harbour,see what happens.

Posted November 3, 2012 3:53 am 


The Klitschkos

Lets invade Poland.

Posted November 3, 2012 3:13 am 


Anonymous

Can you imagine Hagler or Tyson doing that,its all promoters now,the fights would just happen.

Posted November 3, 2012 2:35 am 


Anonymous

2013,2014 or 2015 and 2016,got options there, like the Klitschkos, you don’t know.

Posted November 3, 2012 2:26 am 


November 5th

Ward is boring,not if you put him on the bonfire,he’ll move,he’ll have to.

Posted November 3, 2012 2:07 am 


Adrian

Where will they fight ? Oakland again? Or neutral place I hope let’s say like Vegas ?

Posted November 3, 2012 1:59 am 


Anonymous

Ward is boring to watch ZZZZzzzzz

Posted November 3, 2012 1:56 am 


Gougre

Andre Ward fought dirty against Kessler

Posted November 3, 2012 1:54 am 


huckster

Ward is not leaving Oakland. If Kessler beats Magee and signs to fight Ward, he is signing up for another beating.

Posted November 3, 2012 1:27 am 


Anonymous

Ward is a good fighter,proved it like Calzaghe,difficult to beat,Ward v Calzaghe,that would of been a good fight.

Posted November 3, 2012 12:54 am 


Anonymous

Andre Ward,aint getting on no plane,Mr T

Posted November 3, 2012 12:34 am 


Anonymous

Just saying,how do you beat Andre Ward,they have tried,he will beat you.

Posted November 2, 2012 11:13 pm 


Anonymous

Young or old,you cant beat Andre Ward,great fighter,Chris Eubank,he got beat eventually.

Posted November 2, 2012 11:09 pm 


Anonymous

Ward beats Kessler 100 times out of 100, even in Denmark.

Posted November 2, 2012 10:23 pm 


Nathan

The NEW SPIN is….
“Suffored cuts only from elbows”
Good way to try to highlight the cuts instead of the 100′s of cleanly landed punches providing nice bruises and pain.
Regardless of accidental headbutts it was a clear sweep of rounds for Ward. Shocking at the time to some, now confirmation has come to everyone else since then of Ward’s dominance.
Some promoters still fake delusion though through idiotic hopeful statements
Good thing WBA created the “regular champion system” with which Kessler gained advantage from, huh?

Posted November 2, 2012 9:22 pm 


Shane

Deluded haters. I bet Kessler will RUN from this rematch no matter where it is. Look how Froch is clamoring for it…..lmao….yeah right. He ran from Pavliks challenge. They are wanting to hold on to their paper straps and milk it. Ward is so superior to any version Kessler ever was it is pathetic. I do think it is funny that Ward gets hated by JC fans. He has accomplished so much more this early. Joe was still fighting taxi drivers waiting for real competition to get old and shot while Ward has ALREADY koed the Lightheavy champ who was prime. Hey maybe that is why you cant stand it. Making his career look like an overprotected hype job.

Posted November 2, 2012 7:59 pm 


“Are you guys ready? Okay, let’s roll.”

Ward p4p #1, no one even close.

Posted November 2, 2012 7:46 pm 


Boxtradamus

Ward by DOMINANT UD or late stoppage….As a matter of FACT the Fight may never happen. The WINNER of Kessler-Mater will most likely pull a Povetkin and PASS on the LOSS.

Posted November 2, 2012 6:50 pm 


Anonymous

Ward beats kessler all day long. But ward is not that great to watch, would much rather watch aa competative froch kessler fight.

Posted November 2, 2012 6:47 pm 


PEEJ

Ward is just to good for Kessler. Kessler got beat up the last time. It had nothing to do with the fight being in Oaklsnd. And who cares about the belts, he has the Ring Belt which is the only one that matters

Posted November 2, 2012 6:46 pm 


Anonymous

ward is getting better and better each fight if kessler had a chance of beating him it was in the first fight who see what happen there but now ward gotten better he more experince i see him beaten kessler even worse this time around

Posted November 2, 2012 6:34 pm 


Davey

Well if this is the case then Ward either drops the belt or fights in denmark as i see Sauerland as having the edge in purse bid

Posted November 2, 2012 6:31 pm 


MK

I understand from Sauerland that the fight will take place on equal terms, not in Oakland then. I don’t think that the fine and quick Andre Ward can take a big punch, furthermore I think that Kessler is on to Ward, one big punch from Kessler and its over. If Kessler is injury free, I believe he is better than ever now, and has a lot of experience. I am surprised though that Froch vs Kessler 2 don’t take place first. I firmly believe that although Ward is technically great and fast, Kessler will take him out this time.

Posted November 2, 2012 5:10 pm 


Popkins

This time Kessler will beat Ward’s ass.

Posted November 2, 2012 4:24 pm 



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