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varnish

I re-watched the Froch-Bute fight on youtube as suggested – it just doesn’t feel like I’ve actually “seen” a fight unless I watch it on my 42′ flat screen – must be a generational thing. But I noticed that one big advantge Froch had, beside being able to take Bute’s punches when Bute could not take his, was that Froch’s hand-speed was much bettern than Bute’s. Froch also controlled distance and never let Bute get into the fight. Impressive performance. He shouldn’t have much trouble w Mack.

Posted November 10, 2012 1:56 am 


Bobby Balboa

@MB_The_Rock

You are missing my point. Please read my post again, everyone else seemed to understand it. I know they won’t fight each other because they are brothers & I don’t think anyone is questioning that reason. I think it’s fine & normal that they don’t want to fight each other.

My point was that the belt holders in each weight class should be the mandatory for each others belts as they are the champions. That way we would get no one ducking a fight & if they did they would loose their belt. Also we as the fans would get to see the fights we deserve & find out who is the true champion of each class.

What I disagree with is that this does happen in other weight classes but the K-bros seem to get special treatment because they are brothers. They should be in a position where they are the mandatory for each others belts. They could for example be just 1 belt on the line & if they decide not to fight & rightly so then they have to vacate that belt.

This is a normal situation & we see boxers vacating belts all the time so they can duck a fight they think they might loose or if they have stepped up or down a weight won a belt & then vacated to go back to their normal weight.

Why should the K-Bros be exempt from this rule. Yes they are the best but they shouldn’t have special treatment.

Posted November 9, 2012 7:02 am 


Denno

AD – My guess is that the ABC bodies just don’t make other belt holders into mandatory contenders. Since the brothers have each held a belt since Vitali’s comeback, and before his retirement they weren’t the all-dominating force they are now, then the ABC bodies just don’t make them mandatories

Posted November 9, 2012 6:31 am 


AD

MB- though irrespective of whether you think brothers should fight or not, it is a bit strange that they have never ever become eachothers mandatory opponent – they are the clear 1-2 in the world with daylight in 3rd place and have been for years.
They wouldn`t HAVE to go to the pursebids or whatever – they could refuse, but it does beg the question of what the relationship needs to be between two fighters for organisations to do this – is it just blood family?

Posted November 9, 2012 12:48 am 


lefhook

HH… Did you watch prizefighter last week? i thought McEwan was robbed

Posted November 8, 2012 9:21 pm 


HHLondon

Varnish, the fight is on youtube

Posted November 8, 2012 8:11 pm 


varnish

I like Carl’s fights and his interviews – he is all-out. He should defeat Mack fairly easily – Mack is the guy that Alexandro Berrio kissed goodbye before dispatching him. I wish they would replay the Froch-Bute fight on US tv – that was a very good, exciting scrap until Froch took charge

Posted November 8, 2012 7:37 pm 


MB_The_Rock

Only a complete moron would compare playing other sports with family to punching your brother in the face in boxing and only a SCUMBAG would want to see brothers fight. What the hell is wrong with people? Probably people who had s/hit childhoods or were abused. Vacate the titles if they won’t fight each other? How about someone BEATS them and TAKES the titles or quit whining? No one can beat them so let’s just use the “They won’t fight each other ” nonsense to get their titles from them. They shouldn’t fight each other and should take their sweet time before retiring so they can continue to p/iss all these whiners off.

Posted November 8, 2012 5:56 pm 


MB_The_Rock

Only a complete moron would compare playing other sports with family to punching your brother in the face in boxing and only a SCUMBAG would want to see brothers fight. What the hell is wrong with people? Probably people who had $ hit childhoods or were abused. Vacate the titles if they won’t fight each other? How about someone BEATS them and TAKES the titles or quit whining? No one can beat them so let’s just use the “They won’t fight each other ” nonsense to get their titles from them. They shouldn’t fight each other and should take their sweet time before retiring so they can continue to piss all these whiners off.

Posted November 8, 2012 5:56 pm 


huckster

Family play football, basketball, baseball, and many other sports against each other. Boxing is a sport. The best should box each other. Don’t sell that turd that K-bros should not box each other.

Posted November 8, 2012 4:21 pm 


MK

I totally agree with the idea that the Super 6 smw tournament was a fantastic success, we really saw what was what. Clearly some rules have to be changed in this format. Everyone must fight away from home and at home = Ward. I would like to have had Bute in the tournament from the start, fighting at home and away from home, then we would know where Bute is at. Sadly boxing is, at the end of the day, without any rules, or organization that will do anything. In football you play away and at home, against the same team, in Athletics there are very clear rules now, cycling is the sport to compare boxing to. Totally corrept, but we love it.

Posted November 8, 2012 4:11 pm 


Daly jr

Then id force you to vacate your title. I agree with Balboa completely

Posted November 8, 2012 3:41 pm 


Bobby Balboa

There are already too many belts in Boxing with all the different bodies but when they start to add “world silver” & “Intercontinental” belts into the equation it becomes even more ridiculous! What’s wrong with just a WBC eliminator instead of making up a belt to help sell the fight.

If you look at the boxing schedule now then almost every main fight on a bill is for some belt or the other. It devalues the point of being a “World” champion when 5 other people in the same weight class are also “World” Champion.

Lets not get started on Rankings & how a champion in one body is not even recognised by the others so that the champions don’t have to fight each other!!!

We need more Super 6 style tournaments that should involve all the World Champions from a certain weight class to fight it out & see who really is the best & the “Real” World Champion. If they duck the event they loose their belt & rightly so.

Also why don’t the Klit brothers have to fight each other? I know the reason why but surely they are the mandatory for each others belts so they should have the option to fight each other or vacate that particular belt. I’m sure they would win it back in the next fight but it is wrong that they can hold all the belts & not fight each other

Posted November 8, 2012 1:47 pm 


fight fan

Yes it is but Kessler will stay at super m.w. so there for not defence.

Posted November 8, 2012 12:44 pm 


Daly jr

Isnt the silly silver WBC belt that Bellew is fighting for the same thing Kessler beat Green for?

Posted November 8, 2012 12:09 pm 



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