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TARK

You didn’t watch in super slow motion again Boxtra… That’s what you NEED with your bad eyes.. This angle video angle of the fight clearly shows Dirrell catching Abraham on the back of the neck with the wrist and palm of his glove and throwing him …. Again, the palm and wrist are NOT legal punching surfaces in professional boxing — or amateur boxing for that matter.

Everyone understands that no matter how many anonymous comments you make.

Posted December 1, 2012 11:46 pm 


Anonymous

Yup. You’re blind TARK.

Posted December 1, 2012 10:01 pm 


TARK

Floyd didn’t fly through the air as if he was thrown like a baseball either. AA was thrown.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:55 pm 


TARK

Box…. You’re going to extremes.. It doesn’t matter if Calzaghe landed any slaps in his life. Many fighters do.. What counts is, ARE SLAPS WITH THE PALM LEGAL??? Get a brain.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:52 pm 


Boxtradamus

Abraham flew because of the force of the off target counter punch. Dirrell threw it with with such Speed and Power that Abraham flew into the ropes despite being hit in the neck…..Being hurt or not is no factor in a knockdown. Being knocked down is the factor in a knockdown. Floyd wasn’t hurt when he was knocked down by Judah either.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:52 pm 


TARK

At 37.36 Calzaghe missed a punch and caught his opponent on the back of he head… Did anybody score that punch??? What proof do you have???

Posted December 1, 2012 7:50 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF you didn’t see ANY slaps in the Calzaghe video then its time to hang it UP TARK. Stay on the SIDELINES and leave to commenting to ME. You’re undergoing massive EYE failure.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:47 pm 


TARK

You give it up Box… You’re dead wrong and I proved it conclusively.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:44 pm 


TARK

Yes Abraham flew through the air… That was because he was thrown not punched… If a punch did that to him he would have been OUT because it would have been a real powerhouse shot to make him fly like that … As it is he was unhurt because it was a throw.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:43 pm 


Boxtradamus

Give it UP TARK. Live to battle another day. You’re already in the hole SO stop digging.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:42 pm 


TARK

Boxtradamus…. I never knew you were an idiot before but this last video you produced proves it.. Calzaghe threw as many legal scoring punches in that time frame as anybody could hope.. Nowhere in your video do you see a blizzard of slaps with the palms of the glove by JC… As long as he’s hitting with the top of the glove, even if it’s wth the 2nd knuckle, it’s NOT the palm, and it’s a scorng surface.. If he slaps with an open glove with the palm it’s NOT to be scored—and he didn’t do that.

And if he used the palm of his glove to score a knockdown they wouldn’t have counted it.

Or are you aware of the rule that states back handed blows and slaps with the palm of the glove are NOT to be scored???

Posted December 1, 2012 7:38 pm 


Boxtradamus

Dirrell landed the SAME type of punch on Abraham that Calzaghe landed PLENTY of times in his career its just that Dirrell’s Punch had SO much Power that it made Abraham fly like a RAG doll.

Posted December 1, 2012 7:32 pm 


Boxtradamus

Valiant EXCUSES by TARK but the FACT remains that Dirrell dropped Abraham off of a WICKED counter punch and is the most WICKED counter puncher in the ENTIRE Sport of Boxing. And making UP EXCUSES won’t change it. Being blind as a ROCK won’t either.

Posted December 1, 2012 5:49 pm 


Boxtradamus

Sal O- Don’t worry. We can SEE that TARK is as blind as a DOORKNOB. He’s the worst kind of blind there IS. There are people who are blind and they KNOW that they’re blind and then there’s those who DON’T know that they’re blind. TARK is the latter SO just excuse him for he knows not what he SEES.

Posted December 1, 2012 5:46 pm 


TARK

And Sal O… You’re blind as well… Watch the video Box provided in super slow mo…

Posted November 30, 2012 6:33 pm 


Anonymous

Calzaghe may have landed one or anther slap in his career, like everyone else, but those AREN’T legal blows…

Posted November 30, 2012 6:30 pm 


TARK

Boxtra…. Calzaghe didn’t actually slap.. He punched with the flat of his fists and main knuckles like everyone else.. He was called a slapper because of the anemic FORCE of his punches, not actual slapping—with he didn’t do.. This shows how observant you are. Your eyes are bad.. He may have landed one or anther slap in his career, like everyone else, but those are legal blows… And legal blows are determined by the rule book not by referees who make mistakes and often don’t KNOW the rules.

Find ONE (1) SINGLE knockdown Calzaghe ever scored with the palm of his glove.. Because if he ever knocked anyone down with a slap it wasn’t counted.

Posted November 30, 2012 6:28 pm 


MK

See my point: Ward is trying out Mayweather Stategy:

This is the so called Money Mayweather Strategy:
Find a fighter with one of the following flaws:
Opponent going down in Weight.
Opponent going up in weight.
Opponent on a downhill spiral
Opponent a former name, finished in present time..
Opponent lacking any weapon to win the fight.
Opponent controlled by hometown team.

Posted November 30, 2012 1:13 pm 


MK

BristolOne: Your Ward success list needs to be seen in another light, I think.
Boone = Ward was Koed, came back.
Kessler = headbutting and holding of the worst kind.
Green = Holding a drained fighter.
Bika = A mediocre fighter.
Abraham = Not a smw fighter
Froch = his only genuin win
Dawson = Another drained fighter
Pavlik = A former name, heavily out of form.
This is leaving out Oakland advantage in most fights.

Posted November 30, 2012 9:01 am 


Sal.O

That was a punch that Dirrell landed on Abraham in the seventh round and made Abraham fall on the ropes ,,Lawrence Cole is one of the worst referees there is ,,that should have been rule a knock down …the only reason Cole referees big fights is because his dad is the Texas boxing commissioner ..

Posted November 30, 2012 3:28 am 


Boxtradamus

GOOD try TARK but we’re not talking about Calzaghe getting caught and scored on with a forearm. We’re talking about Calzaghe WINNING a bunch of fights on points while slapping with the inside of the glove. As long as its a natural punching motion and unintentional IF you get caught you’re scored on…..Dirrell punched Abraham in the SIDE of the neck NOT pulled from behind. Your best hope was to SAY that he was pushed NOT pulled. Go get you some EYEGLASSES.

Posted November 30, 2012 3:27 am 


fighter

Hildalgo,

i respect your opinion but when kelly gets crushed and quit fighting then i expect a you told me so fight! ; )

Posted November 29, 2012 9:05 pm 


TARK

Boxtra… Calzaghe did NOT get caught with a legal punch by Jones and the referee missed it… Calzaghe got caught by Jones’ forearm which is not a legal striking surface… The palm is not a legal striking surface either and this time the referee was in perfect position to see it… Read the rulebook if you don’t know the rules.

Dirrell’s palm landed well behind Abraham’s neck… The video record shows this clearly and the video record doesn’t lie like you do… The referee was standing in a perfect position to see what happened, unlike Calzaghe-Jones.. Cole immediately and emphatically rulled NO knockdown.. Because Abraham was thrown into the ropes by the palm of a hand, not punched there with a fist.

Posted November 29, 2012 8:30 pm 


BristolOne

Kessler, Greene, Bika, Abraham, Froch and then Dawson – I have no issue with Ward taking an easier fight and earning some money against Pavlik – he’s earned that right. He isn’t an exciting fighter to watch, but he is he is smart, talented and a very awkward opponent – he’s achievements to date are very impressive and he’s still young.

Posted November 29, 2012 8:26 pm 


Boxtradamus

aka Calslappy.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:56 pm 


Boxtradamus

“The palm or inside of the glove is not a legal striking surface”-Yeah. Tell that to Joe Calzaghe.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:56 pm 


Boxtradamus

Nope. NOBODY saw a knockdown but ME and anyone else who has GREAT vision. Dirrell’s punch landed on the SIDE of Abraham’s neck and he was held UP by the ropes which is a knockdown according to the rules of Boxing. GOOD try though. YOUR eyes are just as POOR as the refs. And I THANK you for admitting it.

Posted November 29, 2012 6:48 pm 


TARK

Boxtradamus….. Nobody saw a knockdown in the 7th round but YOU Boxtradamus, and maybe other people who have very poor eyes… The referee was in perfect position to see the PALM of Dirrell left glove hook directly around the BACK of Abraham’s neck and THROW Abraham into the ropes… That is NOT a knockdown.. That’s why the referee ruled NO knockdown… Because his eyes are better than YOURS Boxtradamus..

You’ll have to watch that sequence in super-slow motion and maybe your defective eyes will catch what Laurence Cole saw very clearly before he emphatically ruled NO knockdown… You will see the pulldown… The palm or inside of the glove is not a legal striking surface so even if it wasn’t a throwdown it wouldn’t be a legal knockdown.

Posted November 29, 2012 6:28 pm 


Boxtradamus

Either TARK’s eyes are POOR or he didn’t SEE the Fight. Therefore he shouldn’t be speaking on something that he didn’t SEE.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:33 pm 


TARK

Guys are always easy to hit who fight like that.. Look at Wladimir’s fight vs Wach, a guy undefeated in 27 fights, stood 6’8″ X 250 and arms longer than Wladimir… Wach had his hands up by his face and took a blizzard of punches and Wladimir had his hands low and barely got touched.. Watch the David Haye vs Dereck Chisora fight.. Same difference.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:10 pm 


TARK

Boxtra… If you don’t think Abraham is one of the easiest guys to punch in the face at the championship level, watch his fight with Froch.. Froch beat AA 12 rounds to zip.. Ward beat him almost as bad.. Dirrell was scared, but basically no different.. AA is very easy to punch for any competent boxer at the world level.. And the knockdown was no counterpunch… Dirrell shoved AA off balance and hit him as he was falling back.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:03 pm 


MK

The Dirrell Math: Fighter in the prime of his career + not fighting for a long time = physical or mental injury (Abraham fight) The Froch vs Dirrell fight Math: Hometown boxer + stalking terrified away from home fighter = Hometown fighter wins. Dirrell looked great against Abraham, but it turned out that Abraham is not made for the smw division. Anyone, but Stieglitz would beat Abraham. Everybody hates Ward, and his team, and with good reason.

Posted November 29, 2012 4:29 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Arthur Abraham is one of the easiest guys at the championship level to punch in the face”-Nope. Your eyes have failed you yet again. Abraham uses the turtle shell Defense like Clottey and is one of the most DIFFICULT guys to hit in the face at the Championship level. He’s EASY to hit in the forearms and side of the head though.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:34 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Trying to hype Dirrell as the world’s greatest counterpuncher shows your lack of expertise”-Nope. It shows that MY eyesight is BETTER than most.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:30 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Ward picked Froch off with much greater aplomb than did Dirrell.”-Well TOO bad that he couldn’t hit Froch with anything as effective as Dirrell DID. Dirrell had Froch ROCKING like a ROCKING CHAIR off a WICKED Counter punch. Ward DID NO such thing with his.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:29 pm 


Boxtradamus

“At this early point in his career Dirrell is too intimidated and tentative to be a great counterpuncher.”-FALSE. He’s SO GREAT at counter punching that he dropped Abraham TWICE when Abraham was Undefeated creating the blueprint for everyone ELSE to follow but Froch and Ward weren’t able to hit Abraham with anything as effective as Dirrell DID.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:27 pm 


Boxtradamus

“but he got smashed out with counters as soon as he tried to throw anything serious”-Nope. Cintron behaved like a beaten and battered cat in that Fight. He quivered and winced every time Canelo even threw a Punch. SO there were no GREAT counter punches needed. Just seek and destroy.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:25 pm 


Boxtradamus

“When is the last time Wladimir or Alvarez lost a fight???”-What does that have to DO with being a BETTER counter puncher than Dirrell???

Posted November 29, 2012 3:23 pm 


TARK

Arthur Abraham is one of the easiest guys at the championship level to punch in the face… He didn’t start throwing anything really serious until the last few minutes of the fight, and Dirrell was mostly running and not countering in a particularly masterful fashion.

Posted November 29, 2012 3:01 pm 


TARK

Boxtra… When is the last time Wladimir or Alvarez lost a fight??? YOU said Kermit Cintron would go the distance with Canelo—but he got smashed out with counters as soon as he tried to throw anything serious.. Haye and Chambers are great counterpunchers themselves but they got ripped with jabs, left hooks, or right hands whenever they attempted a serious punch against Wladimir—and maybe they landed 30 good punches between them in 24 rounds. The rest of their so-called “connects” were worthless and wouldn’t have harmed a welterweight … At this early point in his career Dirrell is too intimidated and tentative to be a great counterpuncher. He’s almost scared. He’s barely fought in 2 years and is not extremely sharp. Ward picked Froch off with much greater aplomb than did Dirrell. Now there’s a counterpuncher … Trying to hype Dirrell as the world’s greatest counterpuncher shows your lack of expertise.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:52 pm 


Boxtradamus

MK stay off the METHAMPHETAMINES.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:18 pm 


Boxtradamus

“Tark- I had to stop reading when you said Wladimir, Alvarez are better counter punchers than Direll. “-Mbuyiseli YOU aren’t the only one. But I kept reading because I needed a GOOD laugh. Wlad and Alvarez are BETTER counter punchers than Dirrell???? LMFAO!!! TARK GO to the EYE doctor.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:16 pm 


Boxtradamus

“I honestly believe Ward is a c@nt.”-Bozo the Clown that has nothing to DO with Boxing.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:10 pm 


Boxtradamus

“wow boxtra.. do you know Dirrell personally?”-Nope. DO I know YOU personally??? But you can still read MY posts right??? OKAY then. Dirrell or someone in his camp read MY posts and took MY advice. YOU may not know this but I KNOW that many Boxers and trainers read the articles and posts on THIS site… Technology is a wonderful thing.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:08 pm 


SREDMOND

Kelly Pavlik, can become more defensively responsible but the reality is that he is a puncher first and foremost and if he is NOT landing that right hand and hurting guys he is in trouble…The books out on Pav’s he is not a great boxer and he is NOT going to become one… His best bet is to avoid being wide open while being in optimal shape and getting hard leather on his foes…. That said he is going to get outboxed by a guy of Andre Wards caliber who comes to win and knows how to.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:04 pm 


Boxtradamus

“You have to take a champs belt.”-FALSE. The CHAMP does not Fight with the belt around his waist. All you have to DO is out point him and they’re supposed to hand it over to you…..Dirrell CLEARLY out pointed Froch by landing the most effective PUNCHES. Even calling it a draw would have been a robbery. But giving the decision the Froch was HIGHWAY ROBBERY with NO MASKS.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:03 pm 


Boxtradamus

“I was at froch v Dirrell and no one won that fight clearly let alone Dirrell.”-THANK you for letting ME know that YOU don’t know how to score a Boxing match. I’ll keep a mental note for future reference.

Posted November 29, 2012 2:00 pm 


Boxtradamus

Yogi-YES. And I’m HAPPY that he took advantage of it.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:58 pm 


Boxtradamus

TARK-Nope. I’m full of the TRUTH again. You named some EXCELLENT counter punchers and a couple not SO excellent ones but none are more WICKED than Dirrell. Who has ANY of the guys you named dropped off of a counter punch whose chin was the caliber of Abraham’s???? NO ONE that’s WHO.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:56 pm 


VINMAN

Yeah, It seems like Kelly is getting thrown under the bus here (maybe deservingly) If the rumors are true and he’s partying and not focused this will be an ugly fight and a beat down for Pavlik. I don’t think the “OLD or NEW” Pavlik could ever deal with Ward! Kelly’s management probably looking at this as their last chance for cash! I liked Kelly in the early years but he has been a huge disappointed from the second Taylor fight and on. Never lived up to the hype. Too bad

Posted November 29, 2012 12:25 pm 


White is Right

Nigbuyiseli

Posted November 29, 2012 11:52 am 


Hidalgo

“You gotta be crazy to see any improvement in kelly!” Fighter, there was obvious improvement in Pavlik’s boxing but as I previously said, it didn’t last long. Kelly will perform much better in his future fights if he will “box” instead of “fight.” Boxing is an art after all. It isn’t called the “sweet science” for nothing. Kelly lost focus while fighting Rosinsky because Kelly has a killer instinct. He’s a fearless, tough fighter but courage and a hard head don’t always win fights. Yes, I am an old Pavlik fan, but Kelly does have the goods to be champ again. I just don’t think it will be against Andre Ward. Then again you never know. Kelly has surprised us in the past.

Posted November 29, 2012 10:55 am 


fighter

Anonymous,
Yes I do I live in the area and he doesnt hide it. I can name the bars he has been at. The one night his Buddys had to carry him out.
Hidalgo,
You gotta be crazy to see any improvement in kelly! Even against jaco he looked off balance and slow.

Posted November 29, 2012 10:38 am 


Mbuyiseli

Tark- I had to stop reading when you said Wladimir, Alvarez are better counter punchers than Direll. As much as I hate Boxtraidiot Direll is up there with the likes of Mayweather, JMM plus Ward. I would even say he’s slightly better than Ward in that department, except Ward doesn’t mind being tagged in order to get to your chest to maul the crap out of you. Direll would do more dancing and detests mauling and rough-housing as we witnessed in his fight with Froch. By the way Froch lost that fight.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:17 am 


MK

The Fight Math: Ward = A Young Hopkins + Pavlik = Kesslers little brother = Result in Advance. The Ward Math: Ward = Jab + Hold on for dear life + move away + hometown/weight advantage/Downhill fighter = Paper Champ. The Froch Math: Heavy hitting + Iron Chin + Nottingham = Only a heavy handed pucher with iron chin can win. The Math equals = Ward beats Pavlik easily + Froch beats Ward easily. These are the facts.

Posted November 29, 2012 7:13 am 


Mick the Marmalizer

Ward is without doubt #1 in the World @ 168Lb, so why doesn’t he take his titles on tour? He could fight Adonis Stephenson or Lucian Bute in Canada or Romania(Bute) Thomas Ooshuizen in South Africa or Carl Froch in the UK.

Posted November 29, 2012 5:19 am 


Anonymous

stiverne got a chance to beat chris cause he can punch you remember chris been hurt before and rocked since chris in better shape now and taking boxing serious i think he going to win this fight in 5 rounds i think stiverne going to have his moments tho

Posted November 29, 2012 2:30 am 


Jack Dempsey

To Boxtradamus ,, Dirrell are you serious ?? Dirrell is the biggest flop there has been in a long time ,,this guy Dirrell you are talking about is the biggest waste of talent ever ,,Why?? because he has absolutely no heart at all ,,Dirrell is still living of his almost win over Froch ..the Abraham fight was embarrassment ,,Dirrell is a good actor!!!

Posted November 29, 2012 2:04 am 


Anonymous

Fighter, do you have legit knowledge that Kelly is drinking? If this is true it is very sad and he has absolutely zero chance against Ward.

Posted November 29, 2012 1:02 am 


Hidalgo

“He has to bare down and train his ass off for this fight.. ” Tark, Pavlik also needs to do what Garcia has taught him to do–for 12 full rounds. Garcia has improved Kelly’s boxing skills–both offensive and defensive–you know, like move his head. Counter punch a little. But in his last fight against Rosinksy Pavlik seemed to lose focus and go back to his old habits after about the 4th round–the ones that caused him to lose against Hopkins and Martinez. It was clear to my eyes that Garcia had polished him up quite a bit then Kelly regressed right in the middle of a fight reverting right back to always-plod-forward-no-matter-what-my opponent does. But I could see very definite, improved changes in Kelly’s fighting style–while it lasted. You’re right in saying Kelly will need to train his ass off because Ward will be aiming to shut him down. But I never count Kelly out. He’s 100% warrior–an often lethal one.

Posted November 29, 2012 12:12 am 


Anonymous

Old Kelly ya but this Kelly is gonna get destroyed

Posted November 28, 2012 10:34 pm 


fighter

no blame kelly and his management for being dumb and non professional. the old team he has was great . lets put it this way a coach can teach a quarterback what routes to throw to and what audibles to call but if the QB does not execute or he physically is getting worse because of his personal life and what he does off the field then the coach means nothing. that QB will throw incomplete passes and get sacked for the inability to move. this is the situation. when the smoke clears kelly will be to blame and i think he will know this 10 years from now broke and a joke. just the truth….

Posted November 28, 2012 10:15 pm 


fighter

first off your rationale about him doing all of the training is correct but people dont know kelly, trust me if he was that dedicated he would not be in this situation. he does not train hard and he does not even want to fight. he has been in ytown for the last 5 to 6 months drunk as can be every day. him and his wife arent even living together right now. he has not trained hard since probably gary locket fight. in saying that pavlik was supposed to go to robert to learn “foot movement” “defense” and “speed” ok…..where is it? my point is what has robert taught him? i actually see him getting worse. how do you let sigmon and rosinksy stay in there that long??? the old kelly takes them out! he is not improving and he is not where he was. so blame robert?

Posted November 28, 2012 10:14 pm 


TARK

It was critical for Pavlik to get out of Youngstown… He has to bare down and train his ass off for this fight.. He has to throw a ton of punches and expend everything he can to be competitive.. He needs to build his strength, speed, and cardio conditioning up to way better than it was for the 1st Taylor fight.. He has to put his life on hold and live for this fight.. This is probably the toughest fight he’ll ever have in his life, so he has to approach it like that — He has to eat right, sleep right, train smart, and brng in great sparring partners. He can’t cut corners. Ward is not a man who ever screws up so Kelly can’t screw up.. I’ll make Ward a 5 to 1 favorite if Pavlik has a tremendous camp, so there’s a significant chance to score an upset if everything goes right.. Try to make the fight as competitive as possible and if an opportunity arrives bring the hammer down as hard and as savagely as you’ve already shown you can… Just remember Buster Douglas.

Posted November 28, 2012 9:51 pm 


pugfan

outside of maybe Carl Froch,Pavlik is the best fighter that Ward will face in his career so far IMO.

Posted November 28, 2012 9:33 pm 


fighter

whoa whoa whoa everyone!! where is all the “change of trainers” people? Kelly changed trainers and now is with Garcia wasnt the point to “bring him to the next level”? isnt this the next level? exactly i can not wait until pavlik quits on the stool in the 6th round like a drunk pusssyyy. After that maybe people will realize every fight pavlik lost it was because he is a waste of talent and a drunk and it is no one elses fault. If garcia was the best move then he should win this fight, and if not then not only did he get embarrassed against ward but he left his home town and ruined relationships for no reason what so ever.

Posted November 28, 2012 8:38 pm 


B Red

My new P4p list. 1. Floyd. 2. Ward. 3. Broner. 4 . Sergio. 5. Marquez

Posted November 28, 2012 8:33 pm 


B Red

Ward is going to give Pavlik a brutal beat down, ya dig

Posted November 28, 2012 8:30 pm 


Ray Ray

Ward is the real deal. Gd defence, gd boxing skills, fight on the inside and outside, can b busy or counter puncher. Doesn’t have many weaknesses. I’m predicting a Froch fight maybe In Vagas next. Carl has bought that on him self

Posted November 28, 2012 7:38 pm 


frank

Ward and direll are not in the same class Ward is a fighter dirrell has not shown a champion heart yet he never pushed the fight against Froch, and it cost him , He looked real good against Abraham early and was ahead on cards but the fight was heating up.l when direll was fouled by Abraham he took the easy way out and took the disquailifation . And started actually crying in the ring when he heard his wife yelling coward up into the ring . maybe a smart move to some . And then he pulled out of the super 6 so he wouldnt have to face ward .Maybe the rest did him good and he might decide he really wants to fight . and live up to his talent but till then he hasnt shown a championship heart

Posted November 28, 2012 6:52 pm 


frank

ward seems to be running into the problem that the really good boxers often do . They just beat all comers .And make good fighters look avg .eventually people start saying there just beating easy guys . does ward use his head yes , and do they let him get away with plenty of rule bending in oakland yes. But if those fights were any where elese do you honestly belive ward would not haave won? I feel the best way to be competive with ward is fight like hell and if he head butts once head butt him twice .

Posted November 28, 2012 6:38 pm 


Anonymous

LOL
ward gave him a “fair and square” ass-whoopin’.
how can a fighter be 35 years old and not know how to fight on the inside???
talk about pathetic.

Posted November 28, 2012 6:03 pm 


Anonymous

BTW: froch has even said twice since the ward fight that andre ward, “won fair and square.” you ward-haters do understand that word “fair”, right? your hero frochy certainly does.

Posted November 28, 2012 6:02 pm 


Anonymous

talk about a dirty fighter. froch constantly hits opponents IN BACK OF THE HEAD. especially in nottingham where he does it with absolute impunity. in the ward fight (where not a single headbutt occured, by the way) he hit ward after the bell. hard too. the announcers were in shock. this from a man who is seven years older than ward and with a ton more experience as a “professional” fighter. dude is almost a decade older than ward and is fighting dirty against him. disgusting. in fact, in boxing terms froch is an old man compared to ward. he’d better get his rematch on with ward soon before father time takes too much of a toll on him. ward is just entering his prime, while froch is closer to 40 than he is to 30! LOL

Posted November 28, 2012 6:00 pm 


Anonymous

ward vs pavlik a bad fight? a mismatch? how about froch v mack? what an ungodly waste of time. an absolute ambush of a no-name nobody fighter. at least pavlik’s been a world champ and been beaten only by future hall of famers hopkins and sergio martinez. but whoever-he-is mack??? LOL

Posted November 28, 2012 5:54 pm 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

I honestly believe Ward is a c@nt.

Posted November 28, 2012 5:34 pm 


MrpleasePlease

wow boxtra.. do you know Dirrell personally? If so, might explain ur bias opinion(best counter puncher in the sport). I won’t list everyone who is a better counter puncher (and there are easily several) but i do ask what positive effect sr will have on him? just trying to recall a positive effect he has had on anyone? including his family? Ward whoops dirrell in a boring fight. Dirrell reminds me a bit of judah and zab has had a good career, but by no means great career, and thats whats on tap for dirrell.

Posted November 28, 2012 4:59 pm 


Anonymous

In this fight you can expect some head ramming here.

Posted November 28, 2012 4:58 pm 


Anonymous

I’m a froch fan but I will say this. I think ward could be the best boxer of my generation. His generalship in the ring is amazing and I don’t think he will ever be betting within reason. Saying all this he needs to takes more chances. his technique is his down doing. He is to good for his own good. This is a shocking fight for his record. Waste of everyone’s time.

Posted November 28, 2012 4:57 pm 


Anonymous

It says here the winner is: ANDRE “SEA OF GREEN” WARD!

Posted November 28, 2012 4:51 pm 


Anonymous

I was at froch v Dirrell and no one won that fight clearly let alone Dirrell. Dirrell could have won it easily if he had the balls to force froch back. You have to take a champs belt. Dirrell was terrified.

Posted November 28, 2012 4:46 pm 


Anonymous

Jim Gray – ” Andrew are you a dirty fighter ” ?

Posted November 28, 2012 4:29 pm 


Yogi

Boxtradamus, it’s just as well you’re around to personally offer Dirrelll your wonderful advice, eh!

Posted November 28, 2012 4:26 pm 


TARK

Box is full of himself again… Andre Dirrell is NOT the most wicked counterpuncher in the world by far.. Donaire, Haye, Martinez, Mayweather, Danny Garcia, JMM, Ward, Wladimir, and Alvarez are all better counterpunchers. Arthur Abraham is super easy to hit and AD’s one (1) knockdown wasn’t even that clean. Abraham was falling back after being pushed by Dirrell’s right forearm. It was an off-balance knockdown not a concussive knockdown.

Dirrell has had one fight in the last 2 years and doesn’t seem anxious to mix with Rodriguez, Golovkin or other top young fighters. He’s going nowhere right now.

Posted November 28, 2012 4:18 pm 


duthman

I think andrew ward is pound for pound the best fighter now

Posted November 28, 2012 4:11 pm 


Boxtradamus

the heat- What DID you DO??? Just wake UP from a 3 YEAR nap??? Ward hasn’t had any headbutting issues in 3 whole YEARS and 5 Fights. His opponents have been having getting PUNCHED too much issues though. Ward has been WINNING and headbutts have been no factor. IF you want to be a Boxing fan then stay CURRENT.

Posted November 28, 2012 3:26 pm 


the heat

fight won on tko by Ward. Pavs face will be bloody from the head butts

Posted November 28, 2012 3:04 pm 


Boxtradamus

Dirrell also had Froch ROCKING like a ROCKING CHAIR in his own backyard. Ward and Dirrell are the only Fighters in the World to clearly defeat Froch…..and that was BEFORE Dirrell hired Floyd Sr. SO watch OUT.

Posted November 28, 2012 2:43 pm 


Boxtradamus

Dirrell is already the most WICKED counterpuncher in the ENTIRE Sport. Just ask Arthur Abraham. The only MAN to ever drop him was Dirrell and he not only did it ONCE. He did it TWICE…..both off of WICKED counter punches.

Posted November 28, 2012 2:41 pm 


Boxtradamus

“There is no one out there with the air of threat to the guy, he is literally going to be waiting and hoping someone comes through quick who looks like he might ahve some of the skill near his own to ignite the publics interest in him again.”-Don’t speak too SOON. Andre Dirrell has taken MY advice and hired Floyd Mayweather Sr. He will be a FORCE to be reckoned with. His SKILLS and Boxing IQ are going to shoot through the ROOF. Ward will have a real challenge on his hands soon enough.

Posted November 28, 2012 2:39 pm 


Cheese Cake

Stiverne will get crush like a bug.

Posted November 28, 2012 1:14 pm 


the voice of reason

arreola vs stiverene?????? Holy cow – thats a hell of a fight right there.

Posted November 28, 2012 12:11 pm 


te tumbo

if anyone has earned a tune-up it’s Ward whose simply steamrolled through one of the deepest divisions in the sport v. nothing but prime and dangerous competition without a single loss. IMO, Pavlik remains dangerous if not prime but shouldn’t pose too formidable a challenge for Ward primarily because SOG is prime, peaking, and already #1 P4P Heir-Apparent with no legitimately risky challenges within 10lbs of his domain. this fight-fan is grateful for the spectacle.

Posted November 28, 2012 12:10 pm 


brian lee

I hope Kelly is allowed to wear head protection & the ref is really neutral.

Posted November 28, 2012 11:45 am 


Anonymous

So Arreola vs Stiverne is a WBC eliminator and so is Fury vs Johnson? I suppose this means Vitali has officially said he will vacate the WBC belt? And the winner of both fights fight eachother for the vacant WBC?

Posted November 28, 2012 11:25 am 


MK

Kelly Pavlik’ whole reputation is built on beating Jermaine Taylor, he has lost to the only two names, on a certain level, the rest are journeymen. So thats that. Ward must be confusing Pavlik with someone else, when he says that Pavlik has beaten plenty of the big names? Wards promoter and team seem hell bent on destroying his career. Irrelevancy is the worst thing for a boxer. It is sad for Pavlik, who once had potential. Lets not forget that a feather duster like Ward, can forget about the Lhw division.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:51 am 


Dash

Boxing Barlow – Totally agree. The only big fight Ward could have is when Canelo fills out his frame in 3-5 years. Other than that …I don’t see Martinez stepping up. I don’t see Ward going up to Heavyweight …

Posted November 28, 2012 10:42 am 


knowall

When arreola wind hw will fight klitchko again for the title. Arreola has let himself down at times but a win here gets him a great opportunity

Posted November 28, 2012 10:08 am 


The Kingslayer

Such a pointless fight for Ward and a horrible match up for Pavlik, both promoters should be ashamed for cashing in.

Posted November 28, 2012 10:08 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

It’s almost pumpkin sized now!

Posted November 28, 2012 8:39 am 


Gonzo the Dragonborn

Is it just me, or has anbody else noticed that SOG’s head seems to have gotten a lot bigger these past few years?

Posted November 28, 2012 8:37 am 


Boxing Barlow

Reality is Ward IS an all time great already. He is on the same level as Mayweather. The issue is he does not have his Pacman out there. He is now on his own at the top and there aint a guy in the middle, super middle or light heavy who anyone would give half a chance to.

Posted November 28, 2012 8:17 am 


Boxing Barlow

Kind of sad, but Wards career already looks about over. There is no one out there with the air of threat to the guy, he is literally going to be waiting and hoping someone comes through quick who looks like he might ahve some of the skill near his own to ignite the publics interest in him again. The reality is the only fight out there at the minute which would get the publics interest again (and I hope to god it never happens) would be Vrs Calzaghe!

Posted November 28, 2012 8:15 am 


Swedish Boxing Fan

Chris Arreola ducks Wladimir Klitschko at all costs. He just hopes he can stay on top enough time to see Wladimir retire and all the world title belts go vacant and he can grab one so he can call himself “champion” = paper champion. Arreola is a couard for a heavyweight contender and cries if he lose, what a shame for a heavyweight contender. They all duck Wladimir Klitschko.

Posted November 28, 2012 7:29 am 


MK

This fight is without meaning. Pavlik is not qualified to meet a top smw fighter, at this point. The normal route for a comeback fighter would be Stieglitz then Abraham and maybe Bute, but fighting Ward, after the Hopkins defeat is bad news, for boxing, Pavlik and Ward. There is no winner here. Ward = A Young Hopkins + Pavlik = Kesslers little brother = result in advance.

Posted November 28, 2012 7:11 am 


Boxtradamus

Or MAYBE Pavlik by SKILLS and a pea shooter.

Posted November 28, 2012 5:13 am 


Boxtradamus

Ward by stoppage or DOMINANT UD

Posted November 28, 2012 2:45 am 


Boxtradamus

Ward by stoppage or DOMINANT UD.

Posted November 28, 2012 2:44 am 


Anonymous

ward’s gonna kick pavlik’s ass.i would’ve liked to have seen pavlik vs chavez jr.

Posted November 28, 2012 2:41 am 


Guerrero Is Wannabe MMA Figther

Ward by TKO

Posted November 28, 2012 2:03 am 


PEEJ

Ward is a dam good fighter. If he is fighting dirty they why doesn’t the ref say something about it. As I have said many times before, a fould is not a fould unless the ref calls it.

Posted November 28, 2012 1:30 am 


Manny

Ward does fight dirty. As mentioned by Hoke. Youtube the Kessler fight. Ward should of been DQ’d from that fight.

Posted November 28, 2012 1:16 am 


Hoke

Lets hope Ward doesnt head butt like he did to Kesslers face.

Posted November 28, 2012 1:14 am 


largo

mismatch.

Posted November 27, 2012 11:51 pm 


largo

an obscene mismatch.

Posted November 27, 2012 11:50 pm 


PEEJ

I don’t even give Pavlik a punchers chance after seeing what Hopkins did to him

Posted November 27, 2012 11:24 pm 


tacoBENDER

This fight will show just what Pavlik is made of…(I’ll PRAY for him)

Posted November 27, 2012 10:43 pm 



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