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Clownfish

Cotto may have over-trained. He changed a lot during his training camp by his own admission including training at altitude for the first time. When you train at altitude, you usually start early and end the altitude training at least a few weeks in advance of the event. He started at camp in Puerto Rico and THEN went to Big Bear and then went to NY. Too many changes isn’t good. It also sounds like he needs a nutritionist in his corner. Cotto doesn’t seem as hungry. He’s worried about being a good father? Dude, you fight 3 times a year (MAX) and your camps are 8 weeks. So, you have nearly 28 weeks entirely off. Most humans don’t have that much time off. Plus, you usually have your family around for part of your camps. Ironically, he had a fight with his uncle because he wouldn’t go to Orlando/Tampa to train Cotto and wanted to be in Puerto Rico. By that measure, his uncle would have been optimal for Cotto being around family. The point I’m getting to is that there is no reason you should be a bad father for training/fighting.

Posted December 7, 2012 10:30 pm 


OCTAVIUS72

I agree with part of what your saying Te Tumbo. He does have a BAD HABIT of fading in fights; and I’m shock folks haven’t picked up on that. I noticed it way back when he fought Mosley. However; I don’t think Margarito was some pickem fight for him. Both of those assignments were tough; and the same can be said for his assignment with Mayweather in all honesty. He made a good account for himself in that fight; but Mayweather did beat him and if he would have pressed the issue in that 12th round; he could have finished him off!!!!

Posted December 6, 2012 10:42 pm 


te tumbo

a lot of disengenuous revisions of the established book on Cotto going into this bout: properly trained, undertained, or overtrained, Cotto is notorious for Fading in the later rounds and that’s-That. moreover, the obvious fact hidden(?) in plain sight was that he was an undersized 154lbr who only through careful matchmaking and promotional sleight-of-hand, insinuated himself into the top competitive bracket at 154lbs and following his loss to another puffed-up welter (Mayweather), Cotto was promptly and predictably overmatched by the first prime and legitimate 154lbr he faced.

Posted December 6, 2012 12:20 pm 


OCTAVIUS72

I don’t think he was trying to box; I actually think he was fading to be honest with you. His productivity levels went down and Trout’s went up. He never had Trout in trouble in that fight. We must have been watching two different fights. If anybody was close to being taken out it was Cotto. That so called low blow in the ninth round was SUSPECT. It landed right on the button and Cotto was hurt. He turned his back on Trout and damn near got CLOCKED from behind because of it.

Posted December 6, 2012 9:15 am 


nemo

if so, then his game plan was rubbish.

Posted December 6, 2012 1:25 am 


Anonymous

It’s not conditioning that cost Cotto the fight…it was stratagy. When Cotto was pressing the action, and making the fight on the inside he was starting to break Trout down, and I think it was just a matter of time. But, around the 7th rd ( as was the case in the Mayweather fight) Cotto backs Off and starts moving around trying to box, and subsquently let Trout back in the fight for the win. This is what will continue to cost Cotto. It looks to me like an amatuer mistake..build a lead, than stay away from your opponet to protect it. Flawed thinking for the pro ranks.

Posted December 5, 2012 10:49 pm 


OCTAVIUS72

I respect your opinion but I still disagree. I think he simply isn’t the same fighter anymore and on top of that he got outboxed. Trout was bigger than him and slicker than him and that’s what I observed in that fight.

Posted December 5, 2012 10:43 pm 


Kid Blast

I’d say he was undertrained as his stamina was not great and his skinny legs were giving out. He is done.

Posted December 5, 2012 8:03 pm 


Fight Aficionado

I don’t know if he was overtrained or he’s simply got too many miles but Cotto looked weak on Saturday. He was never really the same after Margo smacked him with bricks. Still it takes nothing away from Trout, who manhandled Cotto in the late rounds.

Posted December 5, 2012 5:52 pm 


frsank

there comes a time when a fighter loses just alittle and thats what happened I belive all the excuses are really age and cotto facing a good lefty in trout he is a bit bigger and quicker cotto time as a champ is probally over hope he retires soon there is a saying in boxing gyms dont pay your rent thruboxing

Posted December 5, 2012 2:49 pm 


nemo

Octavius, I didn’t want to take anything away from Trout. Great fight, good man. I only doubt fighters saying they changed a lot in training camp an now everything is better and then they look like Cotto, bodywise. The real problem when training is always the right amount of recreational rest pauses. You can overdo training very easily. Regeneration is what makes you stronger.

Posted December 5, 2012 5:15 am 


OCTAVIUS72

I disagree. Overtrained had nothing to do with it. He simply did not throw enough combinations in that fight. He landed a few good shots here and there and when he did the crowd would roar because it was a PRO COTTO crowd; but if you look closely at that fight; he was outboxed. Trout muscled him; and outboxed him. When he got in his rhythm; he dictated how the fight was going and took Cotto totally out of his element. Give Trout his credit!!!!!!

Posted December 5, 2012 3:45 am 


Publicv Enemy

Cottos Trainer is all wrong for him.. The Cuban trainers style does nothing for Cottos natural styel.

Posted December 4, 2012 11:02 pm 


Trainer From Cali

GGG would come down to fight for trouts belts I have no doubt

Posted December 4, 2012 10:28 pm 


Trainer From Cali

Over trained for sure. Also shouldnt be fighting at 54, he is 47 pounder max. Trout to big for Cotto. Trout should test himself and fight GGG he would get a real test…

Posted December 4, 2012 10:27 pm 


Joel Craig

Lets see everyone was saying Cotto had all this experience all the championship savy all these years of boxing knowledge , and now he suddenly overtrained? what happened to all the experience and the home advantage of fighting in New York. All this experience all these years of boxing, but suddenly he overtrained. Wow sounds like a sour grapes excuse to me. His problem was across the ring from him. Trout trained in the mountains in Ruidoso New Mexico maby he was overtrained too. Great job Austin and congratulations.

Posted December 4, 2012 10:22 pm 


Anonymous

Being over trained is like being over qualified for a job.

Posted December 4, 2012 9:00 pm 


nemo

I also thougt he looked deflated. Too much water under the skin, less muscle mass.

Posted December 4, 2012 5:13 pm 



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