Old YankDavid — Thanx for the kudos! Posted December 10, 2012 9:51 pmOld YankTex — You’re sounding a bit like the sentimentalist who wrote this article (ha, ha, ha). So obviously I agree with you. Posted December 10, 2012 9:51 pmTex HasslerPacquiao may have had one fight too many. I felt he should have retired a year or so ago while he was still on top. Now I guess Pacquiao vs Mayweather will never happen but it might have never happened any way. I felt Pacquiao at his peak 4 years ago was the better man. Posted December 10, 2012 9:00 pmTex HasslerTex Hassler says – I have felt for some time that Pacquiao needed to retire while he was on top. I guess Mayweather is kicking himself for not fighting Pacquiao instead of letting Marquez fight him but Floyd had not control over that. This was a great win for Marquez even at this stage of his career. He should also retire now. Posted December 10, 2012 5:18 pmDavid BallJust got around to reading this Yank….you may take away Boxy’s mantle of the Greatest Fight Prophet Ever on ESB, Kudos! Posted December 10, 2012 9:21 amOld YankDel G — Thank you! You got to like those no-doubt endings! Posted December 9, 2012 6:22 pmDel GExcellent article Yank, and now the dust has settled. Almost 100%, that was some Mexican Baseball Bat Pac walked onto. I had Pac by TKO in 9 as u may remember. And many thought it would go the 12. Thankfully it didnt. Decisive as can possibly be for Marquez. Well done JMM Posted December 9, 2012 3:55 pmOld Yanklefhook — Good to see ya! Posted December 9, 2012 12:11 pmAfiRon01Nopporn – I do know what you are saying about Arum. But as we saw, even the Bobfather can’t save you from an icing. Posted December 9, 2012 10:36 amNoppornIt’s not gonna be the end of Pacquiao’s career as long as Arum backs him up. Arum knows what to do to help Pac beats JMM by decision again. You know what i’m saying, don’t you? Posted December 8, 2012 10:46 pmNoppornIf the fight is close again, Pacquiao will win it. Bob Arum won’t let him down. Believe me. Changing the judges can’t help Jmm to beat Pacquiao by decision. Posted December 8, 2012 10:26 pmTomato CanYup you’re right. I’m going to the results thread, see you there. Posted December 8, 2012 10:08 pmlefhookThis is a lot better than that system they were trying. It was terrible Posted December 8, 2012 9:48 pmTomato CanYes, the format is close to what it use to be. Earlier when I posted that question, the site was acting up on my end, the background was white, and the posts were popping up in reverse. Strange. Posted December 8, 2012 9:39 pmlefhookTC..Seems like the formats back to the old system as well. Much better! Posted December 8, 2012 8:34 pmlefhookTC… Strange bud is’nt it. I remember certain guys slaughtering Pac. lol Posted December 8, 2012 8:33 pmTomato CanHmmmm, I never changed my perception on the matter either. Posted December 8, 2012 8:29 pmlefhookWe’ll seems like there’s a few guys changing there perception of Pac. Mines has never changed. Nobody goes through the weights like pac did clean. Strange how time changes folks Posted December 8, 2012 8:26 pmlefhookOld Yank back and the site looks like its back to how it should be… Posted December 8, 2012 8:16 pmTomato CanMr. Bill, hope all is well with you, but does you’re sister know you’re tipping the bottle while minding the store? Posted December 8, 2012 8:05 pmTomato CanMr. Bill, great analogy. Pryor/Arguillo ii. LMAO Posted December 8, 2012 8:04 pmTomato Candid this site just change again? Posted December 8, 2012 7:56 pmJust saying you’re an idiotOld Yank wrote the damn article, he is entitled to chime into the comments. Posted December 8, 2012 7:36 pmMRBILL-HARDCORE XXX“Pacman-Marquez 4″ seems to me like “Pryor-Arguello 2″ of ’83…. Both in great shape and all, but Pryor being younger, quicker and more powerful, went through Arguello pretty easily in the rematch in Vegas…. Just thinking out loud……. Pacman goes through Marquez tonight…. Posted December 8, 2012 7:21 pmMRBILL-HARDCORE XXXI just hope this # 4 ain’t no snoozer like many rubber matches are, etc….. Who wants another “Leonard-Duran 3″ fight tonight…..??? Hell, I’m not even big on “Ali-Norton 3″ either when you get down to it, folks…. However, “Bowe-Holy 3″ was a goodie in 1995…. Posted December 8, 2012 7:17 pmJust saying….See what I mean. Posted December 8, 2012 6:48 pmOld YankBein’ cordial. Posted December 8, 2012 6:37 pmJust saying…Lots of posts on here by Old Yank. What gives with that? Posted December 8, 2012 6:37 pmOld YankVinman — In a few hours we will see if any slippage is evident. JMM might be in the same boat — a cancel-out if you will. But it appears Marquez has been doing much differently to prepare for this bout. As we all know, the definition of insanity is to repeat the same behavior and expect a different result. Manny appears to be repeating his behavior where Marquez is changing his up. We shall see. Posted December 8, 2012 6:37 pmOld YankTomato Can — Thank you for the comments. I’m not shocked that we see this unfolding in a similar way. Posted December 8, 2012 6:34 pmkupsiOld yank.. I wanna be like you when I get old, wisened and learned Posted December 8, 2012 6:34 pmOld YankSupreme — Thanx! Great to be back! Posted December 8, 2012 6:32 pmSupreme CourtHello Old Yank! VINMANI take back the Roach Comment. missed the part where you write about the fighters. Posted December 8, 2012 4:39 pmVINMANold yank , as usual wrong again. lol, JMM has never beat MP! no matter what or who says it! Secondly to read your thread I would swear that MP was 39 years old JMM was an up and comer. “Pretender to the Throne” This is where your train derails because even if PAC has loss a step so has JMM he is no spring chicken. That’s a big problem for JMM because he has to pick his battles cannot afford to get in a war with MP over 12 rounds JMM simply will not last and he knows that. JMM only hope is to continue to counter off MP aggression. As for the snipes at Roach, pretty low of you to try to assert that Chavez loss was somehow Freddie’s fault. Chavez barely paid attention to Roach instruction or training. Free money for Roach. Posted December 8, 2012 4:37 pmk.c.Puntang, whats your major malfunction boy?! Damn, where’s your hatred stem from, childhood, mommy didn’t breast feed you long enough, daddy smack you around too much??? DAMN! GET A LIFE!!! Posted December 8, 2012 4:35 pmTomato CanThis is just a thought, but anyone who would drink their own piss to recycle it’s nutrients, would surely take PED’s as well. Heck, I would take PED’s before I drank J-Lo’s urine, little lone mine. Posted December 8, 2012 4:05 pmJust saying…WTF!! Posted December 8, 2012 3:40 pmOld Yankmr bill — Enhancing is epidemic. A near-40 year old athlete making that significant a change “naturally” raises a healthy dose of skepticism. Posted December 8, 2012 3:20 pmThe Mexican KillerEasy Pacquiao WIN over the cry baby chump Posted December 8, 2012 3:18 pmOld Yanksrminimo — Thank you kindly. I’m afraid an era is coming to a close as well. Posted December 8, 2012 3:18 pmThe Mexican KillerThe MexiCANT doesn’t stand a chance. Only stupid mexiCANTS think this chump will win. Pacquiao by a Tito style KO. Posted December 8, 2012 3:17 pmCupy AltoTest Posted December 8, 2012 2:41 pmCupy Alto (Tumbo’s worse nightmare)Mr. Bill, Marquez has been drinking his own piss (!) and that seems to be a muscle building elixir especially if you mix it with Nacho’s special stuff that comes from that little black box. As Roach says, most fans would kiss his ass if that’s natural. Look for a shocking Tito Trinidad –type KO around the 5th round by the Pac Man. Posted December 8, 2012 2:31 pmOld Yankte tumbo — Are you suggesting that Queenie is a catfish? I thought Eastside kicked his mulit-posting azz outta here. Great to see you too. Lookin’ forward to a sparring session or two with you. Posted December 8, 2012 2:29 pmsrminimoTe Tumbo- Suerte hoy, mi hermano. I’ve got the eerie feeling this might be the last time we’ll see one of these great warriors in the ring. The dissapointment will be that great. And I think they have both slowed down enough to make this an Ali – Frasier 3 type fight. These are two of my favorite warriors and I’ll be sad for whoever loses. May the best man – tonight- win. Great article Old Yank. Posted December 8, 2012 2:26 pmCupy AltoThe slithering Tumbo will soon be in and out of this thread like his short dick. Just watch. Posted December 8, 2012 2:25 pmWayneI went on wiki and can’t seem to find what your talking about. It has the 3 official judges and 4 members of ring magazine. 1 had it for PAC 115-113. 2 for Marquez 115-113 and 117-111. The other a draw. That sounds like a very close fight to me. I’m tired of hearing people claim that Marquez won the fight hands down. It was close. And let’s say 2/3 (probably closer to 1/2) of the boxing public thought Marquez won that still means that it was a very close fight! Posted December 8, 2012 2:14 pmMRBILL-HARDCORE XXXMarquez looks juiced to the maxi-pad…. Posted December 8, 2012 1:46 pmMRBILL-HARDCORE XXXI’m at my sisters crib minding the store while she is outta town with her hubby and kids and I’m gonna do the insane PPV tonight for Pacman-Marquez…. I’ll seek to obtain a copy next week at my crib from HBO, etc… Anyway, I see Pacman getting the late round TKO stoppage tonight somewhere in or near the 11th rd… Posted December 8, 2012 1:12 pmIt’s Me, ErnieIt’s quite remarkable that Manny does what he does, his schedule is insane… Posted December 8, 2012 1:12 pmte tumboBtw OLD YANK, prepare for the predictably vicious responses from your multiposting and fat nemesis (“Godsavethequeen”?). can’t stand this blASSthole’s petty envy or shilling ways and always look forward to exposing his latent mediocrity when it comes to boxing analysis. boxing’s presumed “decline” is the only reason this blASSthole has managed to worm his way into the scene and pass off random thoughts and first drafts as legitimate “boxing articles”(?!) . . . and Happy Holidays to you! . . . :twisted: Posted December 8, 2012 1:07 pmte tumboWelcome back Old Yank Scheider. good to see you’ve recovered from your apparent boxing hangover and are ready to risk additional nips from the dog that bit you. no matter what the reason for your notable absence, i was certain you would come crawling back to your bloody and brutal master like the boxing junkie we all are. although, i am concerned that so many “experts” whose previous boxing analyses have been as flawed as your last scorecard for the Marquez v. Pacquiao* bout are now picking Marquez to win(?). what is particularly offensive is citing Pacquiao’s* decline(?) for this prediction rather than a desire for justice to prevail over the promotional illusion of Punkuiao’s* “greatness”. bottomline, the only one whose in immediate danger of decline or absolute breakdown is the 39-yeaar-old Marquez. otherwise, Pacquiao* is the same single-fisted, one-dimensional, ring-dumb puncher he’s always been. it is swee and poetic justice that it will be a truly great and legendary fighter like Marquez that will finally rid my favorite sport of its most corrupting element. “Duro-Duro-Duro!” War Marquez . . . WAR . . . and Peace to the Old Yank. Posted December 8, 2012 12:49 pmOld YankQueenie — Read the article again and you might catch the name of the fighter Pac fought. I admire Pacquiao greatly — I thought the admiration was fairly clear. Sorry you missed that too. Posted December 8, 2012 12:35 pmTomato CanActually It looked to me that Pacquiao fought Bradley very different. He didn’t fight for his normal 3 minutes a round. He fought maybe a minute and a half per round. I think Manny should have won the Bradley fight, but for whatever reason, that wasn’t the Pacquiao that I’ve been accustom to seeing. And at 147 Manny, looks less pumped/ripped than he has since moving past 135 pounds. In any case, I think we all know Manny will come to fight like the true warrior he is. Posted December 8, 2012 12:29 pmTomato CanPacquiao looks as though he’s just going through the motions at this point. Is he hungry? Probably not, but that’s to be expected. On the other hand the older Marquez is as hungry as ever to beat Pacquiao. He feels he’s never got his due in their fights. This could be the difference. Posted December 8, 2012 12:25 pmGodsavethequeenThe old Wank at it again!!! It’s funny you usr thr Bradley fight to show how Manny has supposedly slip. But that fight was way better than the Jmm 3 fight and Pac never lost to Bradley all real boxing supporters know that, hence why no one is mad about no rematch. Tomato CanOld Yank, you hit the nail in the head with this article. You can see the spark vacating the Pacquiao aura. Hopefully, he’ll put on a great performance, like he always does against Marquez. I think all the Marquez and Pacquiao fights could have gone either way, depending on which set of lenses you were looking through. That’s how close their fights have been. But now we’re approaching the end of a pretty good era, I’ll miss fighters like Pacquiao, and Marquez… Posted December 8, 2012 12:21 pmIt’s Me, ErnieOverrated is one word. J/K, nice article, thanks… Posted December 8, 2012 12:02 pmAldawgThe Old man hoping to cash in on the 4-1 odds and has written a Christmas wish. Marquez is a great fighter, but he’s not immune to getting hit. A more determined Pacquiao in this fight will capitalize on that. I would not bet against speed and power just yet. Posted December 8, 2012 11:37 amPhillPinoy, making an observation over Pac’s natural slippage can hardly be considered hate. The writer clearly referred to him as a winner and acknowledges his greatness. Posted December 8, 2012 11:28 amOld YankPinoy — Someone will win and someone will lose. I’ve been a Pacquiao fan for a long, long time. My eyes detect slippage. Just calling it like I see it. Perhaps you see Pacquiao winning until he’s 50. I don’t. All good things come to an end — Stine’s Law (and I paraphrase): “What cannot continue, won’t”. Posted December 8, 2012 11:20 amOld YankPhilll — Thank you! Posted December 8, 2012 11:17 amOld YankWebster — The Editing was done by Stoli Stolichnaya — English is his second language. Sorry ’bout that! Posted December 8, 2012 11:10 amPinoyHmm. Look what this writer posted down below. “Old Yank “Pac is 147 because he’s SOFT! Pacquaio is no more a natural welterweight than I am a natural Chippendale’s dancer! Marquez is going to stop Pacquaio and prove what most veteran opbservers have seen over their 3 previous bouts — Marquez won them all. Why the hate against Pac? Posted December 8, 2012 11:08 amPhilllOld Yank, not seen you in an age. I enjoyed the read. Posted December 8, 2012 11:06 amUK Jay by the way.Enjoyed that read Yank. That lost step you mentioned is absolutely key to Pacs success and probably his demise. That impromptu staccato step was what allowed Manny to close that distance before his foe’s could let their hands go,didn’t see that rapid step hardly at all against desert storm. Maybe his calves were tight. . . . Lol. Posted December 8, 2012 10:10 amOld YankThank you. I’ve not written on this site in an age, so we share a return. Much appreciated. Posted December 8, 2012 10:00 amFighting WordsJust read on Fightnews,BOb stated his expection a KO. Pacman is getting 25 million and JMM is getting 3 million..Hmmm there is something wrong with that picture. JMM bring a lot of fans to the fight, he should be getting at least 12 million if not more. Posted December 8, 2012 9:58 amOld YankThanks for the comments and thanks for catching the errors I’d normally catch via my careful editing. It was a late night and for reasons I can;t explain I felt a need to come out of retirement for this bout and write something. It was a tad hurried. Posted December 8, 2012 8:57 amRichSadly Old One you are looking through a glass darkly …..Pacq will take Marq again this time….All the whiners and wingers on here will retire to lick there wounds and look as vacant as you will….Then like a bad smell you all will arise to give your definition of how Pacq didn’t really win,then with no more ammunition but blanks tell the world it was a corrupt decision …Ah, but this time it will be different, because Marq will not hear the man count ten……….By the the way Old Yank I hope your boy is doing well….My regards to you both…… Posted December 8, 2012 8:42 amlefhookMaybe the drugs made him great?? no. funny how the form drops off after Mayweather asks for testing. Posted December 8, 2012 8:29 amRienzi FastNice! Either ways, I would love to see a KO.. But something tells me we are up for another surprise. I remember Pac was one who critics thought is not what he is today – they where wrong. We all think he is fading- Let’s see tomorrow night. Posted December 8, 2012 8:22 amPopkins“Yep, a few spelling errors, nut nicely written.” …but…Lol. Posted December 8, 2012 8:00 amPopkinsYep, a few spelling errors, nut nicely written. I agree Old Yank. One of Pacman’s most impressive attributes over the years has been his ability to sustain an incredible work rate, and high tempo pace, allowing him to overwhelm opponents. Unfortunately age has caught up with him and he clearly has stamina issues (by his standards anyway) these days. Personally, I hope and predict he’ll KO JMM within 5 rounds this time. An early victory like this over an old Marquez will cover up the cracks, but Manny is ripe for the taking now, and by fighters he would have comfortably outworked/beaten three or four years ago. Still, I hope he looks like the old Pacman tonight – one last time. Posted December 8, 2012 7:57 amHey, that’s my Bike!!!I thought the spelling was Senchenko, Chavez Jr and Paquiao? Did you mean “peddles” or ‘petals’? At the end there, do you mean ‘scent’ rather than “sent”? I enjoyed this article to the point that you favour JMM yet you give fair reasoning without bias, or bashing of Paquiao. Other writers could learn from this objectivity. For the record I think JMM will win this one also. Posted December 8, 2012 6:55 amBeatsyOld Yank – I really liked this article. I’ve not commented on this site in an age but just wanted you to know that. Very sentimental and the right time to write it. Posted December 8, 2012 6:51 am |
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