AnonymousCause Manny is of the juice so his body is braking down , and now even more thanks to the great JMM. Posted December 24, 2012 4:02 amAnonymousA taste of his own medicine, SAD Posted December 24, 2012 4:01 amAnonymousPedquiao fans are the last ones to be crying about PEDS. Posted December 24, 2012 3:58 amHappyboyFloyd said the same thing aout Pedman Posted December 12, 2012 1:27 pm50 centavosU stupid mtfck.. When u get old your cells get old naturally.. No way u can get more bigger or stronger when you pass your 25′s! Doing repeated exercises would only worn your muscles not unless your doing something unnatural.. Marquez made Dr. Jekyll & Mr. Hyde of himself.. Big upper body thin legs! It’s ROIDS of course! U don’t have to be a doctor to know that! Posted December 11, 2012 2:46 am50 centavosYou don’t have to be a chemist to know that Marquez was indeed Doped. He’s been using that right hand counterpunching for as long as everybody can remember.. Never did he knocked down Pacquiao. He dont have that punching power & Manny has one of the strongest chin in the business. And what? He was able to KD Pacquiao the 1st time in a very stable stance?? What’s going on? Check the name Memo Heredia – one of the notorious supplier of PED (who admitted) perfected the science of not detecting ROiDS on your blood & urine even during Olympics.. Marquez so desperate on winning that even drinking his own urine as a sign that he will do everything just to get back to Pacquiao! Why do you think he hire this snitch & lier Heredia? To bring back the glory to his beloved country.. What an ass. Posted December 11, 2012 2:07 amAnonymousTodos le pelan la verga a marquez, le puso un putazo con madre y lo mando a dormir Posted December 11, 2012 12:34 amAnonymoushe is not damaged(pacman) i still beleive he can beat mayweather. Posted December 10, 2012 10:41 pmSniperThe biggest money fight in the sport right now is Marquez vs Pacquiao 5!!! They should do it in the Philippines ala ‘Thrilla in Manilla!’ Posted December 10, 2012 7:38 pmwhiteboydayfor real forreal Posted December 10, 2012 6:46 pmforrealMarquez/Pacquiao IV should be re-tittle…”The punch”!! Posted December 10, 2012 6:31 pmwhiteboydaywish more people thought like SREDMOND he is completely rite, great post. why is manny bumped out of the top ten p4p after the loss? theres no way in hell bradley should be rated higher than manny. i know he technically lost two in a row but cmon. I was a fan of bradley but changed after seein the way he acted after the pac fight. FOTY i also think should still be rios alvarado. and until somethin is announced no one should be accusing a great champion like marquez of cheatin. would like to see any combination of rios, marquez, and bradley fight now. not sure about manny, still think he has some good fights left in him if he wants to come back. i for one would still enjoy seein him try and knock mayweather the f out. but i would enjoy seein anyone knock him out, been waitin for years, got a semi hard on goin when mosley caught him and just ended up with blue balls! Posted December 10, 2012 5:52 pmlatinboxingfanwell said SREDMOND Posted December 10, 2012 5:25 pmI see GOODWELL SAID FACTS SAYS WELL F$CKING SAID!!!!!! Posted December 10, 2012 4:20 pmZuk$All the focus has been on Marquez’s power troubling Manny since the latter has been able to take punches from bigger punchers than Marquez. So then Marquez must be on some PED’s…well has anyone not thought perhaps Manny could handle those bigger punchers because he was on PED’s and now has since stopped using them??? Posted December 10, 2012 11:49 amSREDMONDWe just saw perhaps the conclusion of the MOST closely contested trilogy (now quadrilogy) in the history of boxing… Both JMM and Manny BOTH deserve the utmost respect for bringing their A game to the event… How many fighters in Pac’s position would face their TOUGHEST rival a 4th time as opposed to Bradley who most think he beat pretty handily?? How many fighters at Marquez age would have the will and desire to train his body that ferociously and handle the abuse that Pacquiao put on him and still time and drop him… It was a priviledge to witness this slice of history and guys cannot do anything but make excuses and create conspiracies to detract from a GREAT night of boxing… Reality is ALOT of you are not even fans of boxing you, are like girls who can’t enjoy a BRUISING 6 round battle between 2 elite fighters giving their all… SMH Posted December 10, 2012 10:39 amBoxtradamusGOOD try meh but the TRUTH is GREATER than LIES. I only picked Marquez and I was CORRECT. Nobody caring is no factor in that. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!!! Posted December 10, 2012 9:12 amTames_Joneyс и с ь к и ! Posted December 10, 2012 9:09 ammehShut up you fkin troll. Everyone knows you post predictions each way and nobody cares. Posted December 10, 2012 8:34 amBoxtradamusMY prediction was SO spot ON that I shocked MYSELF. I am the GREATEST Fight Prophet ever born!!!!! Posted December 10, 2012 8:06 amDannyAngel Hereida (PED Supplier to Olympians) not have been involved in any way. Angel He saved his ass by snitching out others in the BALCO scandal, and even stated how he did it, and how there were plenty of ways to mask the them. I know JMM fans are roaming the streets still salivating after the KO, but using this guy shouldn’t have been allowed. He was busted by the Federal Government, so why allow this guy into a sport? JMM never had power like this. before and never had his upper torso shredded like did. Boxing needs to have the most thorough testing around or guys can possibly cheat. If JMM tested clean then so be it. He won, and should get credit, but it’s high suspect watching him train live at different camps. Mariods is noticeably bigger for a guy that was smaller than Manny before. Mariods power was a heavyweights not a welterweight. lets see the test results asap ! Posted December 10, 2012 7:48 amNew DealBoth fighters are great fighters. I can´t understand why is Pac to blame. He made a good fight until he run into a bomb. That happens in boxing and happend to many boxers. Respect to JMM and Pac. 4 hard fights which will be in our minds forever. We have to thank that guys, nothing else. Posted December 10, 2012 6:36 ambabesMan it took JMM 4 fights to beat manny. The Angel acussation is on key !!!!!!!! Mariods fits JMM perfectly. It took a dirty PED dealer and pump up a old againg fighter to beat Pac man, SAD Posted December 10, 2012 6:07 amCesslerMariods looks and punchs like a middle weight. now Mariods can fight bigger opponents. Thanks to steriods Posted December 10, 2012 6:02 amDhani ZChris John defeated Juan Manual Marquez Posted December 10, 2012 4:18 amFEARSPac/Marquez 4 was a great fight, but Rios/Alvarado is still FOTY in my book! Posted December 10, 2012 3:21 amgruvemeisterIt happens old coot…friggin hell if i prepared for a year doing all the right legal things that could grow my body and retain its speed–i could knock out a friggin walrus…and i’m 59!!! Everyone has turned into Mayweather Senior with their crazy accusations…until there is proof STFU…. Posted December 10, 2012 2:32 amhecdogMad Scientist, yeah sure the punch looked clean and compact. My only question is why did JMM punches seem to move and hurt Manny almost every time he hit Manny? To me, that’s an awful lot of power that Manny has handled with no problem in previous fights, and the addition of his new trainer that is well known for PED distribution raises doubts. I wish boxing wouldn’t allow people like that in the sport, but that’s why a National commission that regulates all of boxing should be in place. I doubt that will ever happen, but guys like Hereida should never be allowed near any professional athletes especially if they have been found guilty for the things he did. There would never had been any question if this guy wasn’t around, and also in a previous interview, JMM said that he nothing about Angel Hereida. Serious? I hope he won clean, because it was a great fight, and JMM was sincerely concerned for Manny, after. Posted December 10, 2012 2:13 amEngr138Marquez is much heavier now at 143, so obviously his power is going to increase. In their third fight, Marquez never really connected Pacquiao the way he did in yesterday’s fight. He connected him with a clean right power shot that KD Pacquiao. Pacquiao got up right away, but was in bad shape. The second knock down was a tremendous right hand, pushing all his weight forward….no boxer was gonna get up from that one. If you naive little people don’t realize that, then you’re watching the wrong sport. Posted December 10, 2012 2:12 amZKOThe title of this articles says it all. Just as everyone will remember Pac for his dominance, everyone will now remember Marquez. What an excellent fighter. Marquez took a lot of punishment to finally put himself in position for that punch. Also, his nick name is ‘Dinamita’ is really fitting… he did what no other welter-weight could do. Posted December 10, 2012 12:44 amSal .OIt was the perfect punch ,Pacquiao came rushing in and Marquez put all his power into his punch ,,what do you think happens ,,” knock out” ,, just like Sergio Martinez did to Paul Williams ,,anyone would have been knock out ,, Besides Pacquiao was already hurt in the 3 rd round .. Posted December 10, 2012 12:24 amFate1Listen why can’t you people understand that if any athlete starts to weight train in order to become stronger it doesn’t mean that person is on steroids if u see results. Marquez has always had power. Look at his record and ko ratio which I believe is higher than pacquiao. Manny ran right into that punch. Perfect punch right on the button. Stop hating. Marquez has pacquiao’s number and people just need to realize that. You need to ask how does pacquiao go from taking shots from bigger , stronger men when he kept moving up in weight but all of sudden he seems normal in his last 4 fights. Maybe pacquiao got of the juice. His punch resistance is gone. Posted December 9, 2012 11:53 pmforrealHonestly that “Putazo” was more devastating than the Hiroshima bomb!! Posted December 9, 2012 11:43 pmMMendozaMAD SCIENTIST: I doubt that any fight which can come in the future will ever outshine any of Marquez vs. Pacquiao fights. Marquez’s victory is galactical to say the least. He has always been world class, and so has Pacquiao. This is definitely the most electrifying and riveting fight of the year. It’s hard ot imagine anything topping this for years to come. My lots of respect for Mayweather’s tactician genius but don’t think he will ever amp up even one tenth of what Marquez and Pac do when they fight each other. Posted December 9, 2012 11:36 pmHatersBeWareMan Juan put Paq to sleep like a little baby. Paq was dream of Christmas in General Santos City and all of the Crispy Pata and chicken adobo he would be eating. Jinkey ruined him– turned him into a nutured house pet. Did you see how miserable he was with all of those over zealous crazy christian dudes around him, playing chess– Now we will see how much people really love him after he looses.. Everyone loves you when you are on top- people seem to forget your name when you are on the way down. All of you die hard fans lets see how long we even see any comments from you on this site– It is sad but that is the way of the world. Posted December 9, 2012 11:33 pmPatrick2This JMM PED thing is nonsense. As I wrote before, any boxer will tell you ‘the punch with the greatest effect is the punch you don’t see coming.’ And this punch, according to Pacquiao himself, was never seen coming. AND it landed right on the button, and with full force. I don’t care who you are, when an elite professional prize fighter catches you with this combination — you didn’t see it coming, with mean intentions, and it hits on the button — it’s lights out, for anyone. Case closed. Now accept the facts and move on. Posted December 9, 2012 11:31 pmThe Mad ScientistThe Mayweather fans make me laugh..Lol!, they’re so loyal to Floyd that they try to keep him relevant during his absence..the spotlight belongs to Marquez you foolios, he got the job done that Floyd refused to do..fight results only happen inside a boxing ring and not so called expert opinions or fanboy debate with convenient logic with twist, spins and turns in favor of the fighter you root for..let me know when Money announces his comeback, until then this is Marquez shine silly rabbits..don’t bother responding to my post or you’ll expose yourselves for the Mayweather fanboys that you are..goodluck on biting your tongues for as long as you can. Posted December 9, 2012 11:21 pmThe Mad ScientistChi-guy stop your whining..even through all you pactards fanboyism around here I sensed doubt in you fools leading up to this fourth fight..none of you clowns truly believed this fight was in the bag for Pacquiao so don’t try to act surprise that your idol went out the way he did..it was due or die for both men and Pacquiao fought with a sense of uegency after he got knocked down hard in the 3rd round..that’s when Manny knew it was killed or be killed and so did Marquez..Juan stood his ground through a broken nose and wobbly legs kept his composure long enough to light up the dynamite and boom!, game over..the best rivalry in boxing history comes to an end..what made this sweet was this two warriors were still somewhat at their top of their game and gave us fans a great fight at an elite level..don’t hate appreciate. Posted December 9, 2012 10:51 pmThe PrinceOld Coot – If I remember, you were one of the main ones bashing Mayweather for demanding Pacquiao and all of his future opponents take a random drug test before each fight. Now that Marquez put on muscle and KO’d your hero, suddenly you’re complaining about PEDS? Had you and the rest of the Pactards sided with Mayweather and demand your hero take the test, not only would the superfight happen already, but this brutal end to Pacquiao’s career by Marquez might have been avoided as well. Funny how life works. Posted December 9, 2012 10:33 pmThe PrinceTake Mares off the list. He hasn’t earned it yet. Once he wins without fouling and planted refs and judges, then he will start to prove himself. Posted December 9, 2012 10:27 pmHidalgo“as a boxing fan they deprived us of this event which would have been a slice of history.” No kidding, Anonymous. Well said. Posted December 9, 2012 10:19 pmChicago GuyJMM cheated. Posted December 9, 2012 10:19 pmThe Mad ScientistHecdog no sense of you acting suspicious of Marquez possibly being on PED’s because prior to the fight you acted like it wouldn’t matter anyways..in fact same fools who are cry foul now were the same ones saying Marquez would tire in the later rounds or was gonna be much lower because of the added muscle..Pacquiao was coming to knock Marquez out and was finding success in doing so but it was Juan’s refusal to be denied of that one sole victory he wanted so bad against Pac that kept up in there long enough to land the finishing blow before Manny had a chance to put Marquez light out..both guys went all out like never before in their 3 fights thus ending the way it did..PED’s or not had nothing to do with Manny getting ktfo the way he did, it was carelessness plain and simple.. Posted December 9, 2012 10:12 pmrobpeople are saying that juan was better than before, thats not true. but he timed pacquiao perfectly and used mannys aggression against him….why can people just accept that manny isnt what he was and got caught by a perfect punch he never saw Posted December 9, 2012 9:57 pmChicago G ay1. ward 2. wlad 3. froch 4. fraud 5. jmm Posted December 9, 2012 9:24 pmPEEJAnd another note, Marquez hurt Pac in every one of there fights. Posted December 9, 2012 8:59 pmPEEJBecause Pac came from 106lbs. It is not like Pac is a natural 147 or 140 pounder. He came from the lowe weight classes and Marquez started heavier than him. Not to mention Pac has been looking bad his last few fights. So this is not a big surprise if you look at all the facts. Posted December 9, 2012 8:58 pmB RedMy new p4p list. 1. Floyd. 2. Ward.3 Marqez. 4. Broner. 5. Martinez Posted December 9, 2012 8:40 pmOld CootPacquiao has too much class to complain… But I don’t, because something just don’t seem right about this one punch KO! So I did some research and Marquez has NEVER one punch KO’d anyone… Not even at featherweight or less. So somebody tell me how does a FW & LW, for MOST of his career, now at age 39, suddenly find the punching power against a guy who has fought at LWW, Welter-Weight and LMW, for the last ten plus years, to do what not even Mosley or Cotto could do, not to mention after their 3 previous fights where he barely ever staggered Pacquiao despite landing more power punches per round than in this fight. Now he not only knocks him down, but KO’s him cold?! WOW! Posted December 9, 2012 8:37 pmPEEJWell there goes Pac vs Broner. lol Posted December 9, 2012 8:35 pmCKBaseless accusations.Where is your proof? Nothing has surfaced so,until then Give Marquez his due Posted December 9, 2012 8:31 pmOld Coot@ Anonymous: Pacquiao has been caught cold plenty of times, Particularly in their second fight, and Manny took several upper cuts from Clottey and big ass Margocheato that would have taken most peoples heads clean off. Not to mention big guys like Cotto and Mosely also landed KO worthy shots… This just seems suspect that suddenly this 39 year old mostly career Feather and Lightweight finds the power to cold-cock a guy know for his chin and who has fought at Light Welter weight or better for the past decade or more. Posted December 9, 2012 8:30 pmAnonymousIf Marquaz was using PED’s I dout if it helped him, his legs were looking stiff, he was slow, and his balance was shakey. Posted December 9, 2012 8:22 pmhecdogMad Scientist, the win for JMM was shocking to say the least. I just want to know that he did it legitimately. Let’s see the post fight test results. I’m all for giving JMM his just due, but since the addition of Angel Hereida (PED supplier to Olympians), any reasonable person would have suspicion. Marquez shocking win is as shocking as Ben Johnson breaking Olympic and World sprinting record at an older age. He was of course found to be guilty of using PEDS. Athletes just don’t come out with these type of impressive performance by coincidence. Manny Pacquiao in 3 previous fights had never been affected in the way he was affected by JMM punches as he was last night. The difference in the fight was one thing, power. Not technique or skills but power. Read more on Hereida, and you’ll see why I’m suspicious, He’s a master with PEDS and admits it. I want to know the win was legit. Posted December 9, 2012 8:22 pmAnonymousPac has nver been caught that cleanly with a punch. He was coming foward and was not able to roll any of the power off. Give it up, he lost fair and square. Posted December 9, 2012 8:14 pmPEEJLakers suck anyways Posted December 9, 2012 8:13 pmAnonymousthe clippers beat the lakers.. who cares Posted December 9, 2012 7:57 pmAnonymouswho cares that marquez won! lololol Posted December 9, 2012 7:50 pmKU99As far as I’m concerned Juan is clean…Until there is some proof or evidence that links him to doping this is the best win of his Hall of Fame career. I look at it this way….Juan took the necessary steps to ensure his body and mind were in peak condition for his greatest test and he came out victorious. Juan went through hell to get the win he’s been seeking all these years but the end result is all that matters. Give the man his dues. He’s worked hard…he’s bled for this sport and worked hard to reach this climactic end. The fight was an epic battle that we all are going to remember. Let’s appreciate the performance BOTH men put on. PAC was actually winning and had Juan in MAJOR trouble through out the fight…especially in the 5th round. If you look at the punch stats…PAC was the more accurate fighter..PAC was the busier fighter and PAC inflicted the most damage…..So a 5th fight as crazy as it may sound might not be that bad of an idea. Even though Juan won this one emphatically at the very end…..he wasn’t looking like a fighter who was going to end up with the “W” in the rounds before. Posted December 9, 2012 7:45 pmforrealThe poster boy for PED use fans now accusing somebody else…you CAN’T make this stuff up folks!! Posted December 9, 2012 7:14 pmSpinkJac , Bernard Hopkins is one of a kind. He is dirty Pascal was correct when he said Hop was on PEDS thats why he blew up on Pascal when he said that. Posted December 9, 2012 7:13 pmZHeredia was also involved with Bolts track and field doping accusations, Marion t Posted December 9, 2012 7:11 pmAnonymousmanny should comeback from this….fight bradley n then the winner of rios vs marquez! Posted December 9, 2012 7:11 pmforrealI’m almost certain Marquez suffered a fractured right hand after he landed that nasty bomb!! Posted December 9, 2012 7:07 pmAlonzoI thought Cruckshank’s KO of Martinez was the ko of the year! Posted December 9, 2012 6:40 pmExiled YankWow… more claims of PED’s. People amaze me. It was a perfect punch… period. Posted December 9, 2012 6:34 pmExiled YankI don’t see how this KO cannot be KO of the year. It looked like JMM killed MP. He fell like he had taken a bullet to the brain. Brutal, yet beautiful. Posted December 9, 2012 6:33 pmJac no house rulesAngel Heredia IS AS DIRTY AS BERNARD HOPKINS. This dude >>>> has a long history of PED dealing all across the continent. Marquez on with the help of steriods hands down. HE CHEATED TO WIN SAD !!!!! Posted December 9, 2012 6:26 pmPEEJSo then are you saying Pac was also cheating? Posted December 9, 2012 6:22 pmOld CootJuan MaMa is on them punch pellets 4 sure! Posted December 9, 2012 6:16 pmilltekIndeed… Posted December 9, 2012 6:10 pmilltekTHANK YOU! I feel the same way and have gotten some flack because of it. His strength and size at his age is very suspect, not to mention his conditioning coach who has been busted distributing. Posted December 9, 2012 6:08 pmPEEJEverybody is always claiming some stupid PED garbage. Funny but Marquez has done the random drug test. Posted December 9, 2012 6:07 pmpedquiaowhiners Posted December 9, 2012 6:01 pmRickPEDS USER OF THE YEAR = MARQUEZ. TOO BAD TO THE SPORT. Posted December 9, 2012 5:35 pmRickMarquez is on PEDS 100%. At age 39, he has transformed from a typical body to a Hulk since he has been involved with the PEDS DEALER Angel Hernandez. PEDS can really do the damage to any sport. Posted December 9, 2012 5:34 pmPEDcquiao Farts ChemicalsPEDs Fighter of the Decade = Pacquiao Posted December 9, 2012 5:34 pmFactsKharma,What goes around comes around.Game over Pacroid!! Posted December 9, 2012 5:30 pmRickPEDS provider of the year = Angel Hernandez Too bad to the sport. Posted December 9, 2012 5:30 pmHutchthat ko more than makes up for the last 3 fights. Posted December 9, 2012 5:28 pmforrealOnr word only…REDEMPTION!!!! Posted December 9, 2012 5:16 pmnemocongrats to both fighters, no one of them should retire. MArquez could, if he sees his career fulfilled, or maybe beat Floyd and then ride into the sunset, but Pacquiao should not be beatdown, he’s one of the best figters who got caught in a moment of recklessness. We shouldn’t say “done” to a fighter only because he lost once in an epic high-quality fight like this. Posted December 9, 2012 5:13 pmforreal…that’s right folks,looks like “Dinamita” stuck a lit dynamite stick in PEDman’s face and BOOOOM!! Posted December 9, 2012 5:12 pmme KO you long timeimagine that, Pacquiao fans accusing others of having taken steroids hahaha Posted December 9, 2012 5:04 pmtesting is needed NOW !test Marq ASAP for PEDS DQ this bout ANGEL IS A FRAUD PED DEALER MARION JONES OLYMPIC RUNNER !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Posted December 9, 2012 4:51 pmZa334Perfect timed hit my butt. Marq did that same kind of punch in the other 3 bouts fiff was his power. Marq hitting harder than any other of Pac opponent is very Strange. Posted December 9, 2012 4:49 pmDanny KaneJuan sticks the hot stick in him. Full of riod liquid in JMM body for the 40 percent increase in punching power. Congrats Juan for using. You needed it to KO Pac Posted December 9, 2012 4:47 pm1200 TechsSkerge: I see KP on here too and some others that jump back and forth…You know how us boxing nuts are…lol…man great fight last night!!! boxing at its best! Posted December 9, 2012 4:47 pm1200 TechsSkerge: thanks my brada! hope ur holidays are going good!! Posted December 9, 2012 4:43 pmNew PED Champ Marquez wins !IGF-1 and IGF-2, epo and ATP all ciculating in Juans system. Posted December 9, 2012 4:43 pmNeil(pomy)Well done Marquez. The guy deserves his moment of glory. Posted December 9, 2012 4:32 pmNeil(pomy)Pacquiao walked onto a perfect counter shot … you dont need to be a power-puncher to achieve a knockout like that. Posted December 9, 2012 4:31 pmSKERGE1200 Techs good to see you here my Ringtalk brother! Posted December 9, 2012 4:29 pm1200 Techs“First and foremost I would like to thank God for keeping Juan Manuel Marquez and me safe during our fight on Saturday night,” Pacquiao said in a statement. “I want to congratulate Juan Manuel. I have no excuses. It was a good fight and he deserved the victory. I think boxing fans who watched us were winners, too. “To all my fans, I would like to thank you for your prayers and assure you that I am fine. I am looking forward to a nice rest and then I will be back to fight. On behalf of (my wife) Jinkee and our family we would like to wish everyone a joyous Christmas and a happy and healthy new year.” Thats how the true people’s champ behaves!! take note !!! Posted December 9, 2012 4:22 pmBrazilian Boxing Fan to Mr. James SlaterWelcome back, Mr. Slater. I missed your articles. The best writer of this site! Posted December 9, 2012 4:21 pmAnonymous3 years ago no boxer in history could have landed that puch on pacquiao – time to go manny, thanks for the last 10 years – you made me love boxing again . Floyd you should retire too – no fights out there for you now – I do feel dismayed at both Floyd and manny for not fighting 2-3 years ago, as a boxing fan they deprived us of this event which would have been a slice of history. Posted December 9, 2012 4:18 pm1200 TechsMitch and Jacob Stills: Where the hell were you guys when pac was under scrutiny?? While I admit it sounds fishy, if there’s no evidence then you cant say shi-l- !! because in the end you can suspect EVERYONE especially on the p4p lists!! If team pac was worried about that, then why didnt they bring it up during negotiations?? stop with the friggin excuses!! Posted December 9, 2012 4:02 pmTomato Canlook at the punch again, that was probably the best punch Marquez has ever landed on anyone. It landed perfectly. Posted December 9, 2012 3:50 pmMitchThanks Hecdog – Angel ( roid dealer ) Heredia: IGF-1 and IGF-2, epo and ATP – that stands for adenosine triphosphate, which intensifies muscle contraction. Jacob StillsIt is obvious that Marquez is on riods How can someone gain this kind of puching power in one fight ? Looking at the background of his new conditioning coach explains everything. Posted December 9, 2012 3:44 pm1200 TechsPeople need to follow pacmans lead and be gracious in defeat! The man himself didnt make ANY EXCUSES so why should anybody else?? Im just glad to have witnessed and ENJOYED pacs historic run…Last nights fight will go down as one of the best and most exciting fights in boxing history… Posted December 9, 2012 3:33 pmpeach of a punchhecdog is an a sshole. Posted December 9, 2012 3:26 pmTomato CanThe sad thing with this fight is seeing a great warrior fall so hard. Pacquiao has a great run, but the doors to his boxing career are closing fast. Same goes for Marquez. I wonder what Arum’s next move is going to to be concerning these two greats. Posted December 9, 2012 3:18 pmShaneJMM always had my respect…….until his complete body transformation under a cheat. It got him a win. Deep down in places he would never admit public or private……there is shame. Maravilla too….man you could go on…….and on.( Posted December 9, 2012 3:18 pmTomato CanIts long over due that more fans come up with reasons to asks questions about PED’s. To bad, this didn’t happen while the shoe was on the other foot. Just like the swinging motion of a pendulum, what goes around, comes around. Still last nights fight was great, not matter how you slice it. Posted December 9, 2012 3:15 pmThe Mad ScientistHecdog accept that you were wrong and stop acting like a sore loser my brother..you are one the most knowledgfight fans I know around here but right now you’re acting like a bitter a-hole over a pick you got wrong..get over it. Posted December 9, 2012 3:14 pmThe Mad ScientistPacquiao vs Rios and Marquez vs Bradley for me next..win or lose both legends shoud retire..what a great rivalry, I bet those who said they weren’t tunning in to watch Pac/Marq go at it again are regretting it right now..foty, round of the year, ko of the year and fighter of the year rolled up in the one punch heard around the boxing world..Lol! Posted December 9, 2012 3:11 pmhecdogMitch, great post!!! When Marquez test positive for PEDs, all those Marquez and anti Pacquaio fans will finally see the truth. The truth will out out. Posted December 9, 2012 3:11 pmAnonymousnot the shock of the year.. definitely not the fight of the year… strong contender for a KO of the year// that right hand was pure malice Posted December 9, 2012 3:10 pmThe Mad ScientistTumbo I know you never liked Pacquiao for whatever reason but I never really had a problem with the guy..is his fans who I couldn’t stand..don’t make me make you feel guilty, enjoy Marquez’s victory like I am and keep sticking it to the pactards any chance you get when they decide to get out of line to troll around here, that’s always fun for me to watch..Lol! Posted December 9, 2012 3:05 pmte tumbo“Are you disappointed with Erik Morales who said it was a case of Marquez having a better pharmacy?” of course and if he was on this board i’d tell him the same thing IF he gave Pacquiao* a pass for rejecting(?!?) improved and random testing methods then had the sour grapes to wish dirt for Marquez. i’ve always said if neither fighter requests it, let the contest begin! i’ve also aways rejected one fighter being able to reject improved testing as suspicious. what We Both Do Know is that for this bout, neither fighter requested improved and random testing even while one fighter repeatedly and publicly stated his willingness to do so upon request. “Any test. Any time. I’ve got nothing to hide” are his exact words that Pacquiao* has never uttered. based on what we Know, your suspicion is misdirected, my friend. Posted December 9, 2012 2:52 pmFight Aficionado“you’ve been one of Pacquiao’s* most ardent defenders when it comes to rejecting(?!?) improved testing.” – Not true. My point was where it’s blood or urine tests matter little. The key is they’re random out of competition tests. Tarver and Berto got busted with urine tests. And I in case you forgot I was rooting on Hatton and Oscar when they fought Pac so this isn’t a case of sour grapes. The abrupt physical transformation of Marquez’s body like Vargas had vs Oscar and Marquez’s involvement with the guy who juiced up several track athletes make it highly suspicious. Are you disappointed with Erik Morales who said it was a case of Marquez having a better pharmacy? Posted December 9, 2012 2:34 pmobbieman“Show me an unbeaten fighter and I’ll show you a Boxer who hasn’t fought anybody.” Marquez and Pacquiao are warriors who aren’t afraid to lose. Thank you for all these thrilling matches. You both throw in the kitchen sink. I just don’t know about that unbeaten protected one. Posted December 9, 2012 2:22 pmte tumbomeanwhile FIGHT AFICIONADO, pretty disapointing that you of all people would be wishing dirt for Marquez. after all, you’ve been one of Pacquiao’s* most ardent defenders when it comes to rejecting(?!?) improved testing. maybe Team Pacquiao* should have taken Marquez up on his repeated offers of “Any test. Any time. I’ve got nothing to hide”. too late for that now but justice’s timing couldn’t have been any better, i.e., Mission Accompished. Pacquiao* is KTFO. Marquez is Better . . . Viva Marquez! Posted December 9, 2012 2:14 pmAnonymoushullk is a brittard. Posted December 9, 2012 2:13 pmte tumbo“I hated to see a good guy like Pacquiao who’s been good for the sport out cold flat on his face..” MAD SCI, you almost make me feel guilty for having watched a replay of Marquez’s KO-punch about 10 times already but justice can be cruel. i think i’ll watch it an 11th time to remind me of this. care to join me? . . . :twisted: Posted December 9, 2012 2:09 pmAnonymousI love how people forget that mayweather didn’t make weight against Marquez. Money is scared of jmm. Posted December 9, 2012 2:04 pmThe Mad ScientistI was thinking the exact same thing as far as the title of this article goes..what an amazing rivalry by two great fighters, wow!, very emotional night for me and peeps..love that Marquez won the way he did but I hated to see a good guy like Pacquiao who’s been good for the sport out cold flat on his face.. Posted December 9, 2012 1:44 pmsoldtntlook at the last fight jmm vpaq 3 jmm was bulking up then its not juice just good old fashioned heavy weights which u wiil find make u bigger and hence more powerful jjm didnt need peds likme i posted earlier he traded speed for power a risk that he was paying for look at his face but he fought paq that many times he knew what he was gonna do and timed that right to perfection the lunging forward of paq increased the power of the punch ,oh and also look jmm ko rec he quite a high ko ratio .and finally what if it was just that mannys not juiced up any more and thats why he got koed Posted December 9, 2012 1:41 pmMitchAngel ( roid dealer )Heredia: IGF-1 and IGF-2, epo and ATP – that stands for adenosine triphosphate, which intensifies muscle contraction. hullkI wish people would understand what Pound for Pound means and stop putting the Kiltschko’s in the ratings…and I don’t believe there are even 10 P4P fighters in the whole world today so the whole idea of a top ten in bollocks. Posted December 9, 2012 1:33 pmAnonymouspacman was not only ko he was sleep for a min lol all that faking before he throw a punch cought up with him lol nite nite lol that was to funny Posted December 9, 2012 1:33 pmteepeelol no juice no win but im glad for marquez cuz they was going to rob him again if he didnt ko pacman but he left no doubt on this on lol u see how pacman fell lol Posted December 9, 2012 1:30 pmFight AficionadoLook at Tommy Morrison’s early fights and Fernando Vargas’ fights pre-Oscar de la Hoya. Neither were defined, but once they got on the juice they were all cut up. Fernando Vargas was busted after his sudden physical transformation before fighting Oscar only because his advisers weren’t adept at beating the test. Marquez has the guy who juiced up Tim Montgomery and Maurice Green so he knows what to do. Posted December 9, 2012 1:27 pmBoxingAgree! Amazing it’s like it didn’t happen. Posted December 9, 2012 1:27 pmI wake, and yes it’s all realYou have the perfect title J-Slat, “Super Marquez” pull off the K.O of the decade, of the century, and of all time … Posted December 9, 2012 1:24 pmThe Akbar OneMarquez destroyed Pacmania with one shot. Posted December 9, 2012 1:22 pmDan DavisNo Congrats to JMM. Hey JMM were did you get this new power. Dont give me this ” Punch Pacman didnt see coming” Pac took hard shots from Cotto and Marg now JMM hits harder than both. JMM juiced got jiuced by Angel big time Posted December 9, 2012 1:22 pmThe Akbar OneWhy do people ignore the fact that Pac stepped on Marquez’s foot, when Marquez went down? Posted December 9, 2012 1:22 pmJoelMTLIt was really disturbing to see Pacman go down like that … I did not see that coming (neither did he obviously). It’s always a bit sad to see heroes fall like that. Congrats to Marquez on his well deserved win. Also props to Pacquiao for taking this like a man. I hope we recovers well. End of an era Posted December 9, 2012 1:12 pmzdrxshameless floidiots are celebrating as if it was their idol who destroyed pacman. pathetic. hey, ladies and girls… before you jump with joy like monkeys…your idol is a coward who would rather hide behind JMM’s apron strings than face pacman. congratz JMM…with heredia around…i hope you’re clean. LOL Posted December 9, 2012 1:09 pmboxxmanKU99 good point…but floyd was coming of 2 yrs of inactivity…anyway marquez cannot beat floyd… thats not even a fight that would sell… floyd might just stay retired…. i wanted to see pac vs floyd…but now it just doesn’t have the same appeal Posted December 9, 2012 12:57 pmboxxmanand as far as JMM being clean.. the punches that drop pac were 2 shots he didnt see coming…he walked right into the one in round 6 and from the angle he came in the weight transfer wouldve knock any fighter out period!!! lets not go into the ped talks again…pac dosnt like to talk about ped!!! Posted December 9, 2012 12:53 pmKU99For anyone comparing this Marques to the one Floyd faced….you all are retarded. JMM had just moved up 2 divisions to fight Floyd. Last nights JMM had years to acclimate to the new weight….he introduced a new wrinkle to his preparations in Memo and he’s never looked better. Floyd would probably still beat JMM….but I 100% gurantee it wouldn’t look like it did back in 2009. Juan would knock out a few corners that made the fight A LOT more competetive…Maybe even better than what Miguel was able to accomplish against Floyd. Posted December 9, 2012 12:53 pmFight AficionadoErik Morales, in a Tweet he later deleted: “The Mexican pharmacy was better.” Posted December 9, 2012 12:52 pmKU99Incredible fight and incredible KO for Juan. I’m very happy for Juan and finally getting a definitive win over Manny. I thought Juan was DONE in round 5…he was hurt, dropped twice and eating a bunch of straight lefts. Round six he was in retreat mode and PAC was closing in for the KO….JMM stayed composed and weathered the storm to find a perfect counter right that slept Manny. I had PAC winning and controlling the fight until the KD. This may have been the shortest fight out of all 4, but it was the BEST! PAC may never be the same after a KO like that….but if JMM is willing to give PAC another shot…I’d be glad to see what happens in the 5th installment of JMM vs PAC. Terrific fight by both men and congrats to Juan! YOU THE MAN! Posted December 9, 2012 12:49 pmboxxmanWhen floyd came back and fought Marquez yrs ago…marquez was TOO old… all the pactards where saying marquez is garbage floyd fighting an old man….now that the same old marquez KO pacman….who is old now??? Floyd completely murdered marquez…. was not even close…. i can only imagine what he would do with pac… marquez is a good counter puncher but floyd is on another level…. the thing i like with marquez is that he’s a brawler counter puncher a very dangerous thing to do but perfect to beat pac……. pac lost to bradely and marquez twice … its bybye now Posted December 9, 2012 12:48 pmTitopaI’m so proud!! Posted December 9, 2012 12:41 pmHHLondonHardly FOTY! Posted December 9, 2012 12:38 pmsoldtntdoubting thomas sorry about the moron bit it was meant for a diffrent poster Posted December 9, 2012 12:30 pmsoldtntdoubting thomas or moron jmm picked power over speed he bulked up with weight traing for explosive power which was risky not peds just accept it and move on ,but if we go by your rationale then it could be that paq was using peds thus jmm couldnt ko him as he did look noticably smaller this time rd lol. Posted December 9, 2012 12:28 pmDoubting ThomasI’m not saying he took anything but i understand why people may have some doubt. 36 rounds he couldn’t drop Pacquaio but now he can twice at 39. Ko of the year without any doubt but i understand why some fans have doubt. Posted December 9, 2012 12:20 pmProud AfricanPac should retire. He has nothing else to prove. Congrats Marquez. Mayweather haters are shocked and weeping. Posted December 9, 2012 12:06 pmAnonymousI think pacman and Freddy didn’t have enough respect for marquez… They trained solely for a knockout and got one… Unfortunately for them it wasn’t the KO, they wanted…. Posted December 9, 2012 12:04 pmsoldtntredemption after the 3 fight which was not that close ,i wanted jmm to win one of my fav fighters took a chance going for power over speed but it payed off,paq got no ezcuses this time guy handled defeat well and was a gentleman Posted December 9, 2012 11:57 amOne Lucky SOBPacquiao making a rookie mistake of coming forward unnecessarily before a round’s end that he’s undoubtedly convincingly won. The rest is history… Pacquiao-Marquez 5 is better than anything at this point Posted December 9, 2012 11:55 amIvanThere was some poetic justice in the way the fourth episode ended. After three ‘flip a coin” matches, this one was beginning to look one-sided. Pacman was definitely ahead and Marquez’s face was so busted up and bleeding it looked he would have to quit – until the last second explosion. It was no fluke, Marquez had already landed several of those flush bombs. Pacman’s jaw was “softened” by at least five big right hands and he had warmed up for the KO with a knock down. He refused to see the last one coming. So Marquez made up for the three controversies and avenged for all the fellow Mexican boxers who lost to the “Mexicutioner”. Posted December 9, 2012 11:51 amStanioMarquez is getting old ….Im a fan of him and I am very very happy with the outcome …but I could not acknowledge that he was getting beat up pretty badly. If I compare him to his previous fight with Manny …he was putting better performance overall in that fight…. but it is understandable at the age of 39 for such weigh category to have some deterioration. I definitely don’t want to see them fight for a fifth time …. Both great fighters …great warriors ! Now if Marquez retires ….it will be perfect career finish for him ….what a knockout ….great timing …but it is time to go. Onearmbanditsorry for the typo errors…flipping key board! Posted December 9, 2012 11:29 amOnearmbanditAs I repeatedly said yesterday – Manny was going to lose. I believed this because it was obvious by is weight that he had not trained how hesould have. However, after seeing the fight it didn’t matter anyway. All the training in the world won’t help when you get hit like that. A sad sight indeed to see Pacquiao sparked like that sadness is eased by Marquez’s moment. If ever someone deserved to be vindicated – he did. I do believe he won the 2nd fight and probably the third too so he fully deserves this. I would like to see a 5th fight as a sort of final, once and for all finisher (haven’t we heard that one before!) but I just think Marquez has his number. Always has. Forget the Floyd fight, Manny has no chance of winning and I do not want to see Floyd get the satisfaction of proving it. The Manny that beat Cotto, Hatton et al would have given Mayweather serious problems – but he no longer exists. Posted December 9, 2012 11:27 amNachoPAC MAN = GAME OVER!! He is broken goods now…. Posted December 9, 2012 11:23 amAnonymousI wanted to see Marquez win but damn who’d of thought Pacquiao would go out face down, ass up. Lol Posted December 9, 2012 11:16 am |
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