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Hidalgo

What awaited him? A bunch of little Georges running around the house? I’m surprised he didn’t marry a girl named George. :wink: Really though, he was a fine “executioner.” It unnerved me the time he took Joe Frazier off his feet with one punch. The power of it literally lifted Joe off the mat. Amazing. I still can’t get over his loss to Ali in Zaire. I thought he was going to smash him. Of course we all know the history.

Posted August 18, 2012 9:47 am 


TARK

Swedish Boxing Fan… Foreman didn’t fight any challenger who was the least bit dangerous after his miracle punch landed against Moorer. He fought the Crawford Grimsleys of the world and couldn’t even hurt them.. Jimmy Thunder KO’d Grimsley with the first punch he threw, 2 seconds into their “fight.” Moorer went toe-to-toe for most of the fight against Foreman with almost no problems. The punches George landed were doing little damage. That’s not why MM got KO’d. He got KO’d because he stood right in front of Foreman with his gloves apart and his chin hanging out — like he was waiting for a taxi to pull up. He did the same thing with David Tua and lasted 20 seconds. Foreman’s power wasn’t unreal. He was just bigger and stronger than the other top heavyweights of his day, especially Frazier. But he couldn’t beat any outstanding boxers such as Young or Ali, and that’s the real test.

Posted August 16, 2012 3:44 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

Kenny Weldon: I think you meant Charlie Polite rather than Charlie Pride. Polite fought Foreman again when he had the Toronto Circus against 5 fighters one after another in the 70’s. Polite was able to finish on his feet that time, which angered George.

Posted August 16, 2012 2:45 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

The Russian Tyson says – You are right about George Foreman and its true. Shannon Briggs and Tommy Morrison both avoided at all costs a toe-to-toe battle against Foreman, especally Briggs and still Briggs was “awarded” a majority desicon (MD) still after all experts and fans had Foreman as the winner with 8-9 rounds. Foreman mabey lost a little power in the late end but not that much as he would still have knocked out any man at the time fighting toe-to-toe with him and thats way Mike Tyson diden’t want a fight with him

Posted August 16, 2012 2:16 pm 


RUFFKNIGHT

I don’t think that Moorer intended to go toe to toe with Foreman. He got ko’d because he got over-confident and careless. Moorer is kind of forgotten as a LH. He won the wbo title which wasn’t much. But was probably a good deal for Virgil Hill because then he didn’t have to take him on, and I think Moorer would have won.
Sugar Ray Leonard got 40 grand for his first fight and his lowly opponent only got $650.00

Posted August 16, 2012 11:00 am 


OCTAVIUS72

If Foreman said he was afraid of Joe; I believe him. Sometimes fear is a good thing. That’s what a lot of you don’t understand. Joe was a hell of a puncher; and it didn’t matter if you were bigger than him; unfortunately Foreman was just such a powerhouse. He was too much for Frazier. But I don’t think it’s right to question whether he was afraid of him or not. I’ve heard George say on numerous occasions that he was afraid of him. And I believe him!!!!

Posted August 16, 2012 8:53 am 


srminimo

Tark- You can’t judge most fighter’s careers on their last 7 fights. Louis, Robinson, Ali, Leonard, Chavez, Roy Jones, their record over their last fights is no representation of their careers. Yet Foreman wn 5 of his last seven only because he still had enough power to command anoyne’s respect. He just didn’t have the speed and the fitness level to really go after guys or throw punches with that murderous intention of his early days at 45+, but he was dangerous til the end.

Posted August 16, 2012 8:14 am 


The Russian Tyson

TARK -You still have not answered my question.I taught you and grilled you about what happens to a boxer like Michael Moorer who commits the cardinal sin of trying to go toe-to-toe with a power pouncher like Foreman, and you avoided,dodged and ran away from answering that question like Briggs ran away from Foreman.It`s because you know that I am right. I taught you with facts and information like a professional teacher schools a wayward pupil that no one could stand toe-to-toe with Foreman and win and now let me teach,educate,edify and school you about Moorer.Even an idiot knows that he did not have a weak chin. He was only stopped 3 times in his whole career in 57 total fights. Tua stopped an old Moorer who was past his prime and at the end of his career.Tark ,this will be your homework assignment, go watch the Briggs fight and see how Briggs is systematically running away from Foreman`s power.Then thank me for enlightening and teaching you.Then watch the Moorer fight and see how he makes the unwise mistake of trying to go toe-to-toe with Foreman and then it will begin to incipiently dawn on your stubborn and unreasonable head that I am the teacher and you are my beginner`s student.

Posted August 16, 2012 7:52 am 


albrecht

forman is not big compare to wlad would be a midget today wlad bigger and bigger punch. wlad would ko the forman

Posted August 16, 2012 4:21 am 


TARK

Russian Tyson… Moorer was a former LHW who accidentally won the HW title when Holyfield suffered a debilitating shoulder injury.. Holyfield knocked Moorer down several times and polished MM off early in their rematch, which was Holyfield’s last KO for many years.. David Tua KO’d Moorer in 25 seconds, which wasn’t surprising because MM had a China chin.. Moorer gave Foreman a beating for 10 rounds and then got stupid, but like I said, that was the ONLY KO or knockdown Foreman scored in his last 7 fights. George’s power was slipping as he aged, like anyone else.. George fought a few chin challenged guys like Morrison, Savarese, and Grimsley during that stretch, but couldn’t hurt them …. So much for supernatural power.

Posted August 16, 2012 12:31 am 


The Russian Tyson

TARK – Let me ask you a question ? If a man broke the law and commited a serious crime and was caught by the police he would be tried and punished in a criminal court of law , would he not ? Well, the boxing ring was Big George`s criminal court, so to speak.If a boxer like Michael Moorer broke George`s law in the ring and commited the crime and cardinal sin of standing toe-to-toe trying to trade with George , he would be punished by getting knocked out. No one could go toe-to-toe with Big George and win. His knockout over Moorer was not a miracle. a miracle is something that is unexplainable.What George did that night is very explainable , if you make the mistake of trying to go toe-to-toe with the hardest hitting heavyweight of all-time,like Moorer did, and like Billy Cohn unwisely tried to do against slugger Joe Louis, the punishment is that you are going to get KTFO.

Posted August 15, 2012 8:46 pm 


srminimo

Bikermike- Thank you! Just last week he defended Khan when Amir started that Twitter tirade over Peterson not losing his IBF belt, and two days later he had a headline like “Peterson gets his belts back. Should the media be less judgemental?” and I’m paraphrasing but definitely along those lines. I don’t like being a hater, Slater, but you definitely get on my nerves a bit with the flip flopping and the barrage of pointless articles.

Posted August 15, 2012 8:29 pm 


The Russian Tyson

TARK- The reason why Foreman only had one kayo in his last 7 fights was not because he lost his, punching power, power is the last thing to go, it was because his opponents out of fear for Foreman`s power, they would not stand toe-to-toe with him,they got on their bike to avoid his power and Foreman had to chase them around the ring like a mummy chases a scared archeologist around Egyptian ruins. Take a look at the Briggs fight and you will see George chasing a scared Briggs aound the ring.This is why he only had one KO in his last 7 fights not because he lost his power it was beause his opponents feared his power and would not stand toe-to-toe with him and George had to chase them.Watch the Briggs fight, it`s the perfect evidence that blows your flawed theory out the water.

Posted August 15, 2012 8:21 pm 


bikermike

Does James Slater have any ethics at all ???

A few yrs back ….when slater was trying to make a name for himself……he would put headlines in the form of a provocative question …
One of those ‘headlines’ was indicating that George Foreman had taken a dive…..!!!

Slater….you are such a slut

Posted August 15, 2012 5:32 pm 


Swedish Boxing Fan

George Foreman and many great Olympic medalists from the past never got anything for free even when they won and eveb with the Gold medal in there hands they diden’t get a free ride or big money contract when they turned pro. Foreman, Frazier, Patterson, Holyfield, Lewis, Byrd and many other fine names where all ones who would become great champion after the Olympic sucsess but they dident get any big cash. Todays fighters dont deserve the money they get in comparisson to what these old warriors achived to get it all. PS. nice to hear from you Kenny Waldon again :grin:

Posted August 15, 2012 5:06 pm 


TARK

@ the Russian Tyson … Foreman started losing his power as he got older, just as Vitali is losing his with age. The miracle KO punch Foreman landed on China-chinned Moorer was the last KO punch he ever threw. It was the only KO he scored in his last 7 fights. In fact, once Foreman won the title from Moorer, George couldn’t even knock any of his super weak, hand picked challengers down.

Posted August 15, 2012 5:05 pm 


TARK

Foreman was never afraid of Frazier, that’s ridiculous. Anymore than Mildenberger was Ali’s toughest fight. Fighters say untrue things to make themselves popular with various fans–just like politicians. Frazier was a short walk-in left-hooker who was the perfect “made-to-order” opponent for Foreman, and both fighters knew it because Frazier looked scared to death heading into the fight. I’ve seen a lot of scared fighters and I know what they look like …. Foreman never learned to slip a jab or dip under a right counter shot, so I knew Ali and Young would have a fairly easy time with him. Even slow old light heavyweight, Gregorio Peralta, tagged George with numerous jabs, so it was pretty obvious what would happen when Foreman met natural heavyweights with much slicker and quicker jabs.

Posted August 15, 2012 4:51 pm 


The Russian Tyson

America will produce other great heavyweights in the future I`m sure.But there will never be another heavyweight that will have the same supernatural punching power that Big George possessed.Even a very old Foreman hit hard enough to bust Michael Moorer`s mouth wide open and the impact of the punch split Moorer`s mouthpiece in two when he knocked him out.

Posted August 15, 2012 4:44 pm 


Bruce

“Big” George was doing commentary at Madison Square Garden several years ago. After the fights, he was walking out and several fans, including myself, approached him. He took the time to smile and shake all the hands offered to him. George Foreman should be on most expert’s list of all-time great heavyweight champs. It’s no small feat that he won the title the first time in 1973 and the 2nd time in 1994 – over 20 years later!

Posted August 15, 2012 3:25 pm 


skinnysteve

how great it would be to have foreman as a young gold medal winner starting out today what great fun to see him march through division knocking out all contenders culminating with a second round destruction of WK

Posted August 15, 2012 1:52 pm 


Brazilian Boxing Fan

Foreman TKO2 Frazier in 1973.

Posted August 15, 2012 1:31 pm 



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