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Anonymous

Haye had to pull out. In so doing he made himself MILLIONS because K2 are slave contractors.

Posted January 2, 2013 7:49 pm 


Unbiased Dane

Vitali is just playing with Haye, its payback from all the times haye pulled out of fights against the Klitschkos early on. If they ever fights haye will suck again as he did against Wlad and the superslow Valuev.

Posted January 1, 2013 10:22 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

That’s right Tard, without a good chin and using illegal drugs, his chances to become a great fighter never happened. It’s what I said from the beginning, try to keep up.
Spinning my words must be great thrills for you, just like pretending to be a hetro.

Posted January 1, 2013 2:36 pm 


dereck

the klitsckho kamp didnt seem to see chisora as a domestic level opponent when they were saying how good he was post vitali fight. a poor attempt to hide vitalis poor peformance against a low level opponent. haye exposes chisora with no size or weight advantages. they should fight. wot you americans seem to 4get is haye is very popular in the uk. look at his PPV figures for the chisora fight. haye had lost fans already (klitscho fight) and theres still loads of people that want to see him fight. wether they love him or hate him they want to see him fight. fighters with a big following are good for the sport and bulding big fights is good for the fans. its a news worthy fight in the uk unlike most. hayes at his peak now. eveyone needs to stop talking about these under developed prospects and exept the fact its a waste to have an exiting fighter like haye, world class with a big fanbase who wants the big fights and then give the big fights to manel charr and people that nobodys heard of before. they only have to fight once is it really that bad a fight for u amerians to watch????

Posted January 1, 2013 11:16 am 


saamm

i thought haye was told to fight chisora by the klitsckho camp to earn his shot at viltali. he did ko chisora so i thought vitali would back up his offer especially after he didnt look good and it went 12 in his fight against a so called domestic level opponent. it always seems the people who write these articles get there facts twisted. haye was keeping busy fighting the opponent surgested by the klistckhos hoping they would stay true to their offer.

Posted January 1, 2013 10:40 am 


TARK

He sure as hell DID quit—after losing 5 of his last 10 fights. The last guy he fought had only one (1) previous win. He was definitely a 3rd rater..

And sorry, I’m a strict heterosexual… Better talk to Gonzo if you need to stick your enema schnozzle somewhere.

Posted January 1, 2013 2:54 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

You’re slippin again Tard. I didn’t say Biggs was a great heavyweight. I said he had a great jab, but his druggin and chin did him in. Sorry he didn’t quit like your idol did. Just because you like it when men and boys put things in your mouth, doesn’t mean you can put words in mine

Posted December 31, 2012 9:58 pm 


Moonshineman

Haye is out for Haye. He doesn’t care about what the fans want to see. Just like Mayweather. Both think they are bigger than boxing. They will be remembered as boxing mafia, not great fighters.

Posted December 31, 2012 3:55 pm 


TARK

NO…. He’s talking about you Ernie Enema Schnozzle… You praise Tyrell Biggs as a great heavyweight—and you condemn Hasim Rahman and Oliver McCall as “bums” who just happened to KO Lennox Lewis with one shot each.

Poor Biggs… He couldn’t even beat the inept Gary Mason and couldn’t get through the 3rd round with Lennox Lewis, who dribbled him off the floor like a basketball.

Posted December 30, 2012 8:38 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Like Tark?

Posted December 30, 2012 2:18 pm 


Rich

Don’t you just love and admire fan boys when they come on here and to bolster their argument and make it appear more legit they inject it with little comments like “I think i read it somewhere” or “I heard him say” or “its a known fact”…or here’s a good one “you can look it up”….another one “i was at the race track”…or”I helped train him”…the sad part is they think we buy it….viva bulls**t

Posted December 30, 2012 12:31 pm 


TARK

Pulev is the number one contender… He’s had 17 fights and he’s about where Wladimir was after 48 fights. He reminds me of Roy Jones the way he throws check hooks..He moves very well on his feet and defends very well … I was very excited about him until I learned he’ll be 32 soon.. Why so old? He better get on the stick.

Posted December 29, 2012 9:01 pm 


huckster

Vitali gets the last laugh and a big paycheck. Pecking over McCall who was a walking mess of a person haunted by drug demons and Lennox-Vitali fight. The future is 2013. If Vitali is going to fight a bum, he should fight a live bum that will fill his pocket with even more serious cash. People want to see Haye get knocked. People want to see Vitali knocked out. Vitali-Haye 2013. Call it unfinished K-bro business. It will sell. If Vitali will not fight Haye, he should fight Pulev who will knocked Vitali out. Pulev is a train waiting to run into one of them. Rather see Pulev-Wlad 2013.

Posted December 29, 2012 6:49 pm 


BEARS

In no way but on paper did lennox avenge anything in regards to the mccall loss. Obviously its coming from someone who never seen lewis vs mccall 2. The fight famous for mental breakdown and crying in the ring. Mccall never fought that bout. Lewis didn’t avenge his horrible ko loss by any stretch of the imagination. Tell that to people who don’t care to learn heavyweight boxing history. What the official record says and the reality of what took place are two very different things

Posted December 29, 2012 4:19 pm 


TARK

Re the first McCall-Lewis fight… LL got up at 7 but was staggering around like a baby giraff just out of the womb … The referee looked directly into his eyes as Lewis leaned into him and couldn’t maintain his balance. LL’s legs were jelly and it was extremely obvious. Even after the stoppage Lewis was still unsteady. You can’t take a chance with somebody’s life, especially against a guy with a lethal right, such as McCall. I’ve seen two fights like this with inexperienced referees who let a staggering fighter continue. The next punch put the hurt fighter into intensive care and they could never take a shot again. Lewis went on to have a great career and his chin didn’t suffer. It’s getting hit hard AFTER you’re hurt and jelly legged that destroys your chin, not so much the initial shot that put you in trouble. There are certainly enough ex-fighters with massive neurological issues to warrent caution.

Posted December 29, 2012 1:39 pm 


K-2- Fan

” Hayes kncks Vitaly out ” ! And Lewis gets the last laugh . Yeah , and then the three of you wake up !

Posted December 29, 2012 11:41 am 


huckster

Haye-Vitali 2013! Haye knocks Vitali out. Lewis gets the last laugh.

Posted December 29, 2012 11:18 am 


SREDMOND

For the record when do you EVER hear me whine about that MCcall stoppage??? It happened he avenged it case closed! It was a setback he had to overcome..

Posted December 29, 2012 9:22 am 


Anonymous

Lewis said it was disrespectfully early. he didnt need pulling out, he should have been allowed to resume imo.

Posted December 29, 2012 5:15 am 


Anonymous

I’m not redmond. But it is an early stoppage, he is moving forward TOWARDS mccall at 8 but at 9 he isnt and at 10 he waves it off and lewis just raises his arms to his side in disbelief. Rahman – he was out. No arguments. He was too casual and got tagged.

Posted December 29, 2012 5:14 am 


TARK

Sredmond aka nameless…. Lewis was put OUT by McCall… He woke up and made it to his feet but was leaning on the referee.. He was clearly gone.. He would have been very badly damaged if the fight were allowed to continue.. LL was getting up after Rahman too, but didn’t make it.. 9 out of 10 referees would have stopped the Holmes-Snipes fight.. Holmes was very lucky Snipes was not a big puncher or a finisher—and not really world class.. In that case you might give an unsteady fighter a chance.. They pulled Haye out when he was getting bombed.. He wasn’t down, but he didn’t have a lot of experience so you’ve got to stop it.. They pulled Adamek out against Vitali.. He had tons of experience, but when you can’t do crap it doesn’t make any sense to risk permanent injury.

Posted December 29, 2012 4:41 am 


sean

david Haye fought wladimere klitchko for a title. Bone crusher smith fought mike tyson for the title. Both Smith and haye fought cowardly fights . With Smith every time tyson got close smith would grab on for dear life and held tyyson the whole fight smith won 1 rd ? Yet Smith didnt take much punishment he went the distance Smith fought a very safe fight.. The fight sucked .no one cried for smith to get any more title fights ,When david haye fought wladimere david haye ran away threw himself on the ground when wladimere got close to him. . Haye didnt take much punishement he went the distance . Because haye fought a safe fight haye won 2 rds . Same results both fights fight sucked . The only differences was have had a lame excuse why he didnt fight . and all the english slime are now bidding for the man with the bad toes to get another title fight without earning it .I dont understand it

Posted December 29, 2012 3:38 am 


Anonymous

I have read where lennox lewis said beating vitali klitchko was his proudest moment . he went on to say none were as tough as vitali . lennox lewis has beaten some tough guys holyfield , mercer tyson and the 2 fighters who koed lewis in rematches ,lewis won that klitcko fight fair and square he cut vitali. but that fight was so hard on lewis that he was never going to fight vitali again and thats why he retired dont forget lewis was finally getting the reconition that he deserved . lewis would have hung around a while longer .yea there were some guys who hit harder tyson probally wladimerer also..foreman . But vitali was the whole deal. he punched fairly hard he boxes well he knows how to use his reach he takes good angles with his feet and he punches between and around the gloves in the same combonation . he is very good at distance he hides his iron chin very well . He knows how to take avantage of his size people say he is boring what do they want him to do run into punches to make it exciting people like to say this guy would have beaten him or that guy would have killed him . I belive him and lennox lewis would have been big problems for any heavyweight ever .another bs statement size doesnt matter bs good big men beat good small men thats why the is weight divisions in every combat sport I know of

Posted December 29, 2012 3:17 am 


SEAN

two english loser toe boy and doughboy> I guess you could call the english ? Fight a unsantioned bout that means nothing ToeBoy wins and now Toeboy is the toast of england. big deal

Posted December 29, 2012 12:34 am 


BEARS

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Posted December 28, 2012 11:38 pm 


Overcomer

Haye and Nameless are f@ggots.

Posted December 28, 2012 11:27 pm 


Anonymous

rhubarb wine.

Posted December 28, 2012 10:14 pm 


Anonymous

He was knocked out, got back up, the ref made the correct decision, I remember watching it in 1994.

Posted December 28, 2012 9:32 pm 


Nameless

Lewis cant believe the stoppage. he spreads his arms wide. he might have got tagged again or not but it was early

Posted December 28, 2012 9:17 pm 


Anonymous

Did that bad Corrie Sanders beat you up, bless, you poor thing.

Posted December 28, 2012 9:17 pm 


Anonymous

Lewis did avenge his very heavy knock out losses, sign of a great fighter, not like Wladimir Klitschko, got his big brother to fight his battles.

Posted December 28, 2012 9:07 pm 


Nameless

early stoppage imo.

Posted December 28, 2012 8:13 pm 


BEARS

Lewis wa strait dropped like a sack of potatoes by mccall.body LIMP

Posted December 28, 2012 7:33 pm 


Nameless

Lewis was not OUT. he was up and ok. early stoppage

Posted December 28, 2012 7:08 pm 


TARK

@Enema Schnozzle Sucker…. Oliver McCall put a much younger Akinwande OUT with one shot.. First time Akinwande was ever stopped in his life, wasn’t it? … McCall put Lennex Lewis OUT with one shot.. First time Lewis was ever down…OR stopped.

Did you know someone else with a more compact and powerful right hander?

Posted December 28, 2012 7:03 pm 


bob

Very good article, Haye has lost interest in the sport and just wants a big payday.

I do however think that beating Price and Fury will benefit his legacy as like it or not they will be the future of this sport

Posted December 28, 2012 6:43 pm 


Anonymous

BEARS – when did Lewis say Vitali was the greatest? You are just a lying mofo.
Lewis tore the man’s face off while out of shape, why would he call him the greatest? LOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted December 28, 2012 6:12 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Wow Douche-nozzle, McCall ko’ed Hepatitis Henry, he was an ATG after all.

Posted December 28, 2012 5:14 pm 


Nameless

Bears – Lewis thinks Ali is the greatest. Stop making rubbish up.

Posted December 28, 2012 5:14 pm 


TARK

Haye certainly had his chances to fight Vitali… He pulled out of a Vitali fight to fight Nicolay Valuev—so he can’t say he never had the opportunity to fight VK.. Vitali chose to finish his career against an undefeated heavyweight with 21 straight wins. Ali chose to end his career against a neophyte who had 6 wins.

Ali did make an ill advised comeback—when you’re broke you do desperate things. Holmes and Berbick put Ali back in the chips financially—but it wasn’t worth the damage. Vitali is 41. He doesn’t want to continue forever and possibly lose a close decision to a man he would easily have outpointed or stopped 2 years ago.. Take a page from Tunney, Marciano, and Lewis … Don’t go out like Jeffries, Louis, Ali, and Tyson.

Posted December 28, 2012 4:17 pm 


SREDMOND

So what Wlad beat him?? Wlad beat Peter and Vitali fought him do what’s the difference? Vitali is reversing his position he CHASED Haye before!

Posted December 28, 2012 4:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you have already told us that YOU consider Hayes scalp worth something because you credit Wlad.. What was Charrs, or Solis scalp worth? Vitali said it was worth something because he chased Haye DIRECTLY off his loss to Wlad.. Both YOU and Vitali are reversing your position on Haye now that he recreated buzz with a smashing KO… How is Hayes scalp worth less AFTER winning?? That makes NO sense… Vitali should just retire because another bum is not gonna fly his dilapidated resume cant digest it…

Posted December 28, 2012 4:02 pm 


Anonymous

Used to be a Haye fan, but his trash talking is ridiculous, boring and he let himself down badly in his only superfight. That said, Vitali needs to fight him to get a good payday, there is no one else that can give Vitali the PPV purse he deserves to end his career on (apart from his brother, which will never happen.)
Vitali has slowed down a lot, so he is welcome to go out any way he likes.

Posted December 28, 2012 3:24 pm 


BEARS

I think I’m gonna take a nap. Nice discussion though. Try to respond to the hayes worth question. I will return and take my place as first keynote speaker shortly

Posted December 28, 2012 2:58 pm 


BEARS

Sredmond-wake up call. Everyone thinks vitaly is the best including lewis. Were all well aware of he difference b/w wlad and vitaly. It just shows how you don’t think like me tark, lewis, duva, rafael, and even wlad himself. They all say vitaly is number one. But you tell me how much you rate haye. Why are you dodging the question? So wlads pretty badass for beating haye in your eyes huh? Sweet.

Posted December 28, 2012 2:51 pm 


BEARS

I can say haye shouldn’t have had a belt because that was wlads belt. There was a whole bs fiasco around chagaeve and the wba. If u don’t remember or ur not aware of it. That’s your deficiency. As. Fan I factor that knowledge in to my assessments. Haye never should’ve had the title it was wlads for fighting and defeating chagaev

Posted December 28, 2012 2:45 pm 


TARK

Lennox Lewis commented…, “‘The way Vitali has come back from his own retirement is phenomenal. At almost 40, he still has tremendous drive, determination and ambition. I am past my prime now and just want to do other things but he is still craving the kind of challenge we presented to each other… Vitali is still the best out there. Still the most awkward to hit. Still punches the hardest. Still uses his size and reach to great advantage. Still knows how to keep you off balance. Still wins pretty well every round in every fight … Vitali Klitschko doesn’t get all the credit he deserves.”

Sounds like one ATG heavyweight showing great respect and admiration for another ATG heavyweight.

Posted December 28, 2012 2:38 pm 


BEARS

I’ve already explained why haye is little woth to vitaly. Wlad already beat haye. You yourself say haye is a little guy who is “suppose to loose” your the lead detractor. You were downplaying wlads victory over haye and calling it insignifcant now you want to big up haye for vitaly? You tell me how big a feather in your cap haye’s scalp is. What worth do u give it?. Lol I think it would be awesome for vitaly to smoke haye at 41 or 42 years old how could it not be? But I can already hear a detractor like u. We heard it the first time around with wlad. Vitaly is in a position he is damned if he oes damned if he don’t. Beating the”toe fairy”. The guy wlad ALREADY smoked. Because he ko’ed a guy vitaly dominated with one arm and gave him his third or fourth loss in a row. Haye has no interest in fighting he has shown that now as he could’ve fought twice since chisora. But were to think he will fight when in with vitaly and not run? There is no indication of that, but quite the opposite. This thread is filled with valid reasons why vitalys legacy in no way needs or can benefit a great deal from haye. This is all subjective. To me it would be awesome if vitaly smoked haye at 41 or 42 and clearly diminished. I’m a big klitschko fan though. I love it everytime they get in the ring but vitalys old. Its no secret. So what vitalys scalp would be worth at this juncture is also debateable. Guys like vitaly should never age. Its sad. I will miss vitaly

Posted December 28, 2012 2:36 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, please Charr is fighting Chisora off a KO and two LEGIT losses in a row to Vitali and Haye… You are trying to preset the table with win for Charr?? Vitali NEVER put Chisora down or even hurt him meanwhile Haye destroyed him obviously at this point Chisoras name is sullied meanwhile guys are STILL favoring Chisora over Charr who NEVER beat anyone… Vitali got to Charr early via CUT!!!!! Meanwhile Chisora was chasing Big Klits like a big game hunter till the final bell…..Reality is that all your excuses tell me that you are worried about Vitali fighting with a HW that is NOT slow as all hell, has real skills and can hit, even though Klits would enjoy a BIG advantage in size…. This has NOTHING to do with “earning a shot””

Posted December 28, 2012 2:29 pm 


Anonymous

haye is a f@ggot that has no hw resume and was beaten badly by dr steelhammer. vitali should never even talk to this british half n@gger. let him rot.

Posted December 28, 2012 2:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, how the hell are you going to say that “Haye should not have had a belt” he went out and got one from Valuev albeit a relatively soft path but you can only win belts from a beltholder… Haye getting a belt added to the event because each man brought straps to the table… Your logic is flawed and you seek to revise history because it does NOT suit your anemic argument.. At the end of the day NO ONE can take the fact he grabbed a belt at HW away from David Haye coming up from Cruiser if I am correct only he and Holy ever did that even though Holy is the only former Cruiser to accomplish half as much as he did at HW….

Posted December 28, 2012 2:24 pm 


BEARS

There mostly all better than the guys haye has fought and if charr defeats hisora that’s gonna show how bad chisora really is and destroy him. In terms of damaged goods what gets damaged is punch resistance.it doesn’t always happen but it does happen none the less. Has nothing to do with how hard a guy punches. So I don’t know what tangent u were going off on talking about adamek winning fights by stoppage

Posted December 28, 2012 2:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you are flip flopping if you call Haye ” a feather in Wlads cap” then you are thus assigning him a clear degree of worth in the world of boxing… You are right Hayes second loss was a points loss to the most dominant HW of the past 7 or so years not exactly the worst thing ever notwithstanding his reluctance to take chances…If Vitali knocked out David Haye it would certainly look good for him in a fight with visibility if he knocks out ANOTHER Charr its does NOTHING because the rap of Vitali is that he has NOT beaten many name fighters or perceived dangerous guys… From a promotional angle this bout is the easiest out there to sell, he will be trying to FINALLY shut Hayes mouth via KO and Haye exceeded Vitali against their most recent common opponent (Chisora) personal feelings aside it makes the most business sense in the HW division

Posted December 28, 2012 2:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, as for stopping B and C level fighters what the hell do you think Vitali has been doing??? What A level HW did Vitali stop??? Solis, Johnson, Briggs, Charr, Gomes, Arreola and Adamek…. NONE of those guys are A level HW’s andI DARE you to explain to me how one of them is more than a B or C level guy? What are you going to do? Quote Vivek Wallace?? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

Posted December 28, 2012 2:13 pm 


BEARS

Of course we give wlad credit for putting in work. I idnt say haye has zero worth I just said its hard to place haye. It depends on the parameters and metrics by which your judging. At heavyweight hayes resume is weak so if were judging. Based on hat not good. At cruiser its great. In terms of hae appearing talented atheletically its good. Wlad is the second guy to deeat haye. I think its a feather in wlads cap. The size and quality of that feather is debatable is it not. Its debatable with any fighter even the greats that wehy we discuss boxing

Posted December 28, 2012 2:12 pm 


SREDMOND

Who said Wach did not take a hiding? But the idea that this was the worst beatdown in history is CORNY and more of your false assignment of accolades…. Wlad dominated and beatup Wach but this was not some scenario where the guy was dead and needed hospitalization… We know Wlad is powerful but not everyone yields to that power though MOST have you cannot assign KO’s or TKO’s and epic beatings based on prior success… Growup

Posted December 28, 2012 2:09 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Adamek has NOT lost a fight since Vitali and NO he is NOT damaged goods, he was NOT stopping guys at HW BEFORE Vitali and he is NOT stopping them NOW…. AGAIN you love to decide fighters are ruined because they lost to a Klit which is pure BS… Tony Thompson got stopped by Wlad and he went right back to beating the SAME level of fightes that he did before (he was NEVER more than a B level HW) same with Arreola who lost to Vitali then went back to beating BUMS after that absent Adamek who outboxed him Adamek, Thompson and Arreola all lost to Klits and went back to being the SAME fighters they were before beating a certain level of fighter… Tell me about all these KO’s Adamek was registering BEFORE fighting Vitali?? Eddie Chambers is a solid boxer so he was able to deal with Adamek who is far from the most murderous punching HW in the division…. AGAIN trying to make the Klits MORE than the REALLY are

Posted December 28, 2012 2:07 pm 


BEARS

Your saying wachs face and head didn’t look brutalized? Lol! I gurantee his melon swelled to an ungodly size and his face was battered. Wach took a hellacious beating as lou duva and dan rafael pointed out. And dan has been talking about klitschko fights being exciting and why for some time

Posted December 28, 2012 2:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, you call Haye “an unknown commodity” BUT you want to give Wlad credit for beating him?? See you cannot have it BOTH ways either you want to ding Wlad for having to go 12 with a suspect fighter, where Wlad was so tentative given Hayes lack of offense it was annoying or you want to give the younger Klit credit and then you have to stop playing him off as a no name opponent at HW NOW that he poses a threat to Vitali… AGAIN you are NOT a smart individual and I am not sure if its the low level learning disability or sheer stupidity but YOU said Haye was “All risk no reward” by acknowledging he is a risk you invalidate your own argument about him being “an unknown quantity”…… This is the price of being a double talker.

Posted December 28, 2012 2:02 pm 


BEARS

Adamek was rendered damaged goods by vitaly who gave adamek the worst beating of his career. Hayes had some snoozers. He’s stopped some b and c fighters and he got a belt that was actually wlads. Truth is haye never should’ve had the belt. Haye should’ve been fighting wlad for it in which case he neverwouldve had the belt. That strap doesn’t increase hayes stock in my eyes personally because I know the story. Words and semantics don’t increase hayes tock. Saying haye was a wba champ doesn’t mean much to me

Posted December 28, 2012 2:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, if you think that Wach took the most insane damage in the world then you have NOT watched much HW boxing…He took a beating but the guy was FINE postfight and Wlad never even had him on the ground, you love to decide that because a guy got hit by Wlad or Vitali they receive instant brain damage…Thats a fantasy concocted in your furry little brain…Wach got hit but I sure as hell have seen ALOT worse and the results were visible to the naked eye, not an MRI you conduct from your TV screen, face facts Wlad was UNABLE to stop Wach and he backed off a bit later in the fight when he realized that this stiff, low talent and immobile fighter was not going down…

Posted December 28, 2012 1:57 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Adamek is a Cruiserweight Champion who unlike Haye NEVER got a belt at HW and he has not shown he is a threat even as a puncher at HW (he started at LHW) David Haye has a few lame opponents (Barrett, Harrison) but at least he got them outta there whereas Adamek is not even stopping or looking impressive against SMALL HW’s like Chambers and he just needed a gift to get by ANOTHER Cruiserweight Cunningham who came up….Tomas lacks the power, speed or size to compete with a Klit so how could he win?? David Haye can at least PUNCH and has FAST hands at the weight so there is some perceived avenue to victory… Adameks tough but he would NOT last 7 rounds with David Haye…

Posted December 28, 2012 1:53 pm 


BEARS

Not a can a plastic draft. Not looking to hurt haye just looking for entertainment. I think it would’ve been funny to contribute to maing haye feel uneasy in the house of klitschko. He really brought it on himself did he not. I’m glad the germans got crazy and made it a kind of hostile environment. They are usually quite reserved. Are known for how reserved they are

Posted December 28, 2012 1:37 pm 


BEARS

Similar to toughman contests like butterbean paricipated in. I don’t dismiss ali, frazier, and foreman. I just think the klitschkos are better and lennox lewis because I tink these guys would defeat those guys and to tell u the truth I’m in good company on that view and opinion. Of course I think highly of clays, fraziers, and foremans boxing history. More so of clay. Frazier and foreman where not able to do much at championship level. They didn’t hold titles long. They were never the best fighter in the world at any time in my eyes. Does my views sell them short? I don’t think so, even foreman says the klitschkos are greater than he ever was. Is foreman selling himelf short? I personally like frazier and foreman but not clay. I love all their fights and have watched all I can. Its not pesonal I just think the great super heavies the klitschkos and lewis are >everyone else because I think they could defeat everyone else

Posted December 28, 2012 1:26 pm 


Anonymous

Wallace and gromit, David Haye would sort that dodgy penguin out, quickly,

Posted December 28, 2012 1:21 pm 


BEARS

not look like duckers. Not really. You look at lennoxs career and he took fights of that nature too. These easy voluntarys are just part of the money making aspect of being a champ. They’ve all done it. I thought going out and getting wach to fight was good on wlad. A lot of these just say their not ready. In my view was a namer. It was a fight I was and am happy to see made, happy to watch, and I looked forward to it. I liked the fight and the sylvester stallone entrance. It was some hellacious action. In terms of excitement wach offered way more than haye even stunning wlad at one point. The damage wach took was out of his world. But to get back to your haye talk. Adamek was cruiser champ and you have never given adameks scalp much credit. So your saying cause haye had an awful fight with valueve like he did with wlad but because he picked up the wba title that was rightfully wlads for beating chagaev but don king and the wba worked it out to do chagaeve a dirty one, that hayes scalp is worth signifcantly more than adameks? I can’t really agree but I will ay hayes natural athleticism is pretty good. I would put money on haye if he were fighting most the contenders but its a shot in the dark. To me haye istill such an unknown commodity at heavy. When he did fight wlad he got dominated on top of it being another snoozer like valueve. Watching haye swing wildly aganst barret and ruiz and having poor balance and over shooting his punches his fights at fist seemed to me to be similar

Posted December 28, 2012 1:18 pm 


Anonymous

Gets the comments, because he will knock all the other heavyweights out, and it’s David Haye and the Klitschkos,like it or not.

Posted December 28, 2012 1:17 pm 


Rich

Bear you have made it patently obvious your love and regard for the Klitschko’s,but by continually bad mouthing boxers like Ali,Frazier, and Foreman and dismissing their careers in favor of your misguided regard for theirs shows your true worth……You are no way interested in boxing,,,,just showing your devotion to the Klits…..You could show it a little more meaningful if you spelt VITALI correct …These 3 guys would have walked up and down your boys….So you wish you could have thrown a can of beer at a boxer,…..but that would be only if he had his back to you.presumably ….Ive never yet met a bully with courage…..

Posted December 28, 2012 1:16 pm 


Anonymous

Haye da man

Posted December 28, 2012 1:15 pm 


OlSkool72

Gotta love David Haye and how delusional he still is. Unfourtunately for Vitali the only guy worthy of him to fight right now is his brother. It would have been interesting if Vitali had started his Boxing career sooner and gotten to face some of the more marquee Heavies that were still floating around in the mid and late 90’s.

Posted December 28, 2012 1:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Below Bears pretty much OPENLY admits that Haye should be ducked he says “Haye is risk not reward” hmmmmmmm first of all thats NOT accurate David Haye would be the BIGGEST paycheck of Vitalis career just like he was Wlads biggest check, second of all we call that ducking in boxing especially when you discuss a guy who has a name and actual box office clout… Guys like Wach are all risk NO reward because they have 0 element of danger, bring NO money outside what the Klits can generate to the table and if you beat them they were considered BUMS anyway….Why did Vitali have hard on to KO Haye when he was coming DIRECTLY off of a loss to Wlad? But when Haye looks dangerous suddenly he is to be avoided?? Haye brings money to the table and a fight with REAL visibility outside of the Klits adopted lands..If not Haye Vitali should pack it in and go be a politician maybe he can win the BIG one in that field.

Posted December 28, 2012 1:00 pm 


SREDMOND

Povetkins years as a ducker, his recent struggles with a Cruiserweight and his outings vs 40 year old boxers have dimmed his former shine….It would be a good name on Vitalis resume but a KO over David Haye would trump that because the narrative would read that he knocked out one of the only guys who ever came up from Cruiser and captured a HW title, he will have done something his brother failed to do in that stinker fight…On the flipside if he loses or gets a boring points win it will be like OK he beat Haye but was not impressive, of course he will have an MRI ready postfight to explain any shaky moments should they occur….Pulev has no name outside the hardcore and in this DRY era you guys are frantically searching for a high profile opponent, David Haye is the ONLY guy who fits the bill… Or you will just have to spend your time trying to oversell nobodies…

Posted December 28, 2012 12:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Povetkin has LOST alot of his currency as a fighter and unlike David Haye he has NEVER been a real HW Champion…He never even wanted to contend for a belt, despite his poor showing Haye NEVER got stopped by Wlad Klits or even put on the canvas… When you mention “resume” you suddenly make the Klits look like “duckers” because Wach, Mormeck (stopped by Haye) and Charr have no resumes whatsoever…. Haye is justified because unlike ALL these other fighters he has a name that generates buzz good or bad and he knocked out a guy Vitali had his toughest bout in years with… Pulev is making a case but is he even calling Vitali out? Reality is that Bears you are scared of Hayes FAST hands coming at Vitalis head even though Klits enjoys MASSIVE physical advantages, Pulev and Povetikin are SLOW and predictable fighters who might have some pop but they will have trouble acquiring the target due to an absense of speed.

Posted December 28, 2012 12:50 pm 


K-2-Fan

Funny how some people , who have trouble thinking clearly , fail to see
when they fall into their own trap of a double standard . Take for
instance that dude below , who shall remain ” Nameless ” , not only
can he ever come up with an original thought of his own ; but this is one of those classic ; one side of the mouth does not know what the other side is saying . He says ; that the idea in boxing is not to get hit , yet when Wlad , who has perfected it into a fine art does it , he calls it ” over cautious ” and ” boring ” .

Posted December 28, 2012 12:28 pm 


BEARS

I don’t know that haye can do anything for vitalys legacy at all. Haye has no resume at heavy really in the grand scheme of things based on resume alone. Povetkin and pulev are above haye. Haye’s resume can’t speak for itself so haye has to do his talk. In what way can haye add to vitalys legacy? People cansay vitaly was suppose to win and haye was to small and haye prooved nothing at heavy overall. Its hard for me to glean what value haye has legacy wise. I think very little. Haye is risk, not reward from what I can see. And we know the klitschkos don’t need haye to make mikllions. They can make mikllions fighting mormek. Lol. So when someone starts talking vitaly legacy and david hae it makes no sense to me

Posted December 28, 2012 12:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Bears, Vivek is an ESB writer and he also questioned Vitalis ability to win against other fighters…By the way where is Vivek Wallace? Do you for ONE second believe he is the biggest voice in boxing? Truth is that if YOU wrote an article sacking Vitali you would cite yourself as proof that he is something more than a HOF level HW…. NO ONE who is the #2 HW during his own damn era can credibly be called the best…. Vitali never did what Lewis, Holy or even Tyson did… They UNIFIED, Vitali beat Sam Peter and then contented himself defending the one strap against a slew of relatively safe opponents… Cruiserweights, Old men and average HW’s…

Posted December 28, 2012 12:19 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitali does not have to fight David Haye, he might as well retire because ANOTHER fight against a manufactured no name opponent is ONLY going to further waterdown HIS legacy…Vitali has not faced a HW fighter with any name since Sam Peter so booking another meaningless win against a Charr type will only solidify the reality of his resume being about as thin as can be… David Haye no matter what his shortcomings is a recognizable and fairly dangerous opponent, guys can crucify him for fighting scared vs Wlad but Wlad has fought scared against FAR smaller less athletic foes (Haye was up against it)… Truth is that Haye also kept Wlad at bay to some degree because he can punch even at HW and he has faster hands than anyone the Klits will have faced in recent memory, Vitalis fans don’t want to see him potentially get countered by a guy with fast hands… Wach and fighters like that are so slow a 5 year old could evade their shots.

Posted December 28, 2012 12:15 pm 


BEARS

I dnt think it makes vitaly inferior. I call him thegoat. Other people do too. For well known reasons. Like vivek called vitaly the greatest

Posted December 28, 2012 12:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitalis fight with Lewis did NOT deserve to “go to the cards” anymore than Vitalis win over Charr was supposed to go to the cards…The rules of boxing do not change because Vitali needed that win like an alcoholic needs a new liver….He is NOT the first fighter to be winning before he was taken out, I guess Pac Man should have gone to the cards right? He was up 2 rounds before Marquez turned his lights out like the Investment Banks in the US, you are looking for a “Bailout” for Vitali when he had 3 rounds to bail HIMSELF out by knocking out Lewis… But the truth of Klits career is that when the going got the TOUGHEST (Byrd, Lewis) he lost and sought to rectify or mitigate his failure via politics as opposed to pugilism or a cold hard KO….Ray Leonard was told ” You are blowin it son” and with a detached retina he knocked out Tommy Hearns… Hagler was bleeding bad in the 3rd and stopped Hearns… Vitali lacked that Greatness in the clutch

Posted December 28, 2012 12:07 pm 


SREDMOND

Vitali did well against Lewis if you want to consider him an AVERAGE fighter… Champions are not content with winning 4 rounds, absorbing the worst punishment of their lives and being sent to the hospital with a TKO loss on their record…The reality is that you are upping the quality of Klits performance because no he was in the ring with an ATG which is not the worst thing BUT it certainly places Vitali as an inferior to that fighter being HAPPY to win 4 rounds with Lewis when he has ACTUALLY booked over 40 legit wins… You would NEVER hear SRL, Hagler, Lewis, Ali, or Holyfield being HAPPY and bloated with pride because they got TKOed by another fighter 10 years ago…

Posted December 28, 2012 12:01 pm 


SREDMOND

Klitschko is NOT getting credit for beating Lewis, he was not robbed by judges or refs he was NEVER Undisputed HW Champion so he will have to make his case based on what he actually did NOT weak proprietary metrics like “applause” and overexaggeration of 4 rounds… Vitali had a HOF career, he is a true professional but his list of opponents has FAR too many questions and the fact that he has spent hardly ANY of his time as a pro considered the best HW operating its time to put his fantasy placement to rest…. Yes Wlad got stopped 3 times, I give him plenty of grief for those moments but he also is the guy who REALLY took ownership of the era when Lewis and Co retired and got old… He was making his case when Vitali was rehabbing in Germany or wherever… “Never down” “Never behind” would be FAR more impressive if that played out against better fighters than Solis, Briggs, and Arreola….

Posted December 28, 2012 11:54 am 


huckster

Maybe Vitali should mess up Haye’s face.

Posted December 28, 2012 11:44 am 


BEARS

Vitaly did quite well against lennox. Vitaly has outboxed everyone he has ever fought

Posted December 28, 2012 11:43 am 


Anonymous

Haye vs Fury would interesting to see and the winner faces Vital. But Haye is scared to fight Fury in a 10 rounder.

Posted December 28, 2012 11:39 am 


BEARS

I think u can make a case for dq’ing lennox or at minimum going to the cards. But regardless we have 6 rounds boxed. We have a lot of tape to assess thereby. Vitaly outlandling lennox every round is quite the cleansheet is it not. Vitaly was more effective in more phases of the game. Vitaly did officially loose but as I said I think easily that fight could’ve. Gone to the cards. That fight could’ve been stopped in the 3rd round or 4th round on the cut and gone to the cards bcause the fight hadn’t reached enough rounds. Many different scenario’s could’ve played out. The one that did saw lennox get the win officially. But we have analysts in agreement lennox the fight, vitaly the event. Yeah tark and I have a view and opinion of the fight aespecially about the nayure of the cut. If u google it u can find articles where others allude to thelacing. Even the surgen in the kitschko documentary dicusses the nature o the cuts. So. Are views are in line with the doctors. I feel tark and I are in good company and people like sredmond and company are entitled to their qwn views

Posted December 28, 2012 11:32 am 


SREDMOND

Bears and Tark are inventing narratives that DON’T exist for the Lewis vs Klits fight… I challenge you to find ANY writers from ESPN, or major newswires discussing how Lennox Lewis should have been DQed or that first cut came from anything other than a right hand… All REAL historical controversies have discussion of the debated points ie Lewis vs Holyfield, more recent Rios vs Abril, Aaron Pryor vs Arguello… We are all supposed to dismiss our eyes and 10 years of accumulated history to adopt their depraved view of the bout….Face it Klitschko never made the most of his opportunity, he could have been Undisputed HW Champion and garnered a win of historical significance instead he is trying to let the 4 rounds he won over Lewis Lewis serve as the foundation of a career fraught with dominant wins over mostly C plus level opponents…Vitali had 10 years to get a win on the board that trumps his loss to Lewis and where are we??

Posted December 28, 2012 11:14 am 


Hidalgo

Bears, you’re obviously a Vitali Klitschko fan, but all your snide comments won’t change reality. Go back and watch just the sixth round again. You’ll see Vitali’s forearm in Lennox’s throat, and you’ll see Vitali hanging on for dear life, or to lock Lewis up. He had his arms around Lennox so much one would think he was in love with him. I never said Vitali didn’t outbox Lewis. He was ahead on all the scorecards when the fight was stopped. He was hitting Lewis more. But Lewis did have a plan and if you didn’t see that, or can’t see it in the replay, then you don’t know what you’re watching. But no matter how much you jib and jab at me, the video shows the truth: Vitali was fouling like a mo-fo–just like Lennox Lewis.

Posted December 28, 2012 10:48 am 


SREDMOND

The Klitschkos are obviously effective but they will NEVER be known as exciting fighters.. Call it size discrimation or the hard reality of people having seen EXPLOSIVE fighters ply their trade… Wlads a terrific puncher but he is NOT explosive, he is more inclined to soften a man up and then take him out… Vitali takes guys out by erosion, he punches and punches until guys are pulled out of the bout but he does NOT leave guys flat on the canvas…The overcaution shown by these fighters at times is doubly snooze inducing because they are usually dwarfing their opponents…They are also hurt because their opponents are of dubious quality and lack the tools to mount a vigorous defense… Seeing Wach and these clowns throw 3 punches per round does not help the Klits make the hightlight reels..

Posted December 28, 2012 10:48 am 


Hidalgo

“Hidalgo- terrible assesment.” Bears, go watch the 6th round again. Vitali was fouling Lennox right and left and had his left forearm shoved so far up Lewis’s neck it’s a wonder Lennox’s head didn’t pop off. But it doesn’t matter who did what first. Ref Moret allowed both of them to foul like madmen. Then when the fight was stopped, everyone started whining and moaning. I’m telling you Lennox kept trying to land the one big haymaker that would put Vit down. He almost did it in the 6th. And yeah, Lewis was playing rope-a-dope. He was tired but so was Vitali. And he was hoping Vitali would gas out.

Posted December 28, 2012 10:43 am 


Anonymous

Not being, you know.

Posted December 28, 2012 8:39 am 


Anonymous

I just saw that on the news, coincidence, respect, and George Bush if he goes.

Posted December 28, 2012 8:34 am 


Anonymous

Norman Schwarzkop has died.

Posted December 28, 2012 8:29 am 


David Clint Eastwood Haye

You got to ask yourself one question, do you feel lucky, well do you punk heavyweight, I will knock your block clean off.

Posted December 28, 2012 8:01 am 


Anonymous

Aspen, Colarado, Ski resort

Posted December 28, 2012 7:51 am 


Nameless

bears has an ego problem – he congratulates himself on wins that never happened, rather like his view on VK

Posted December 28, 2012 7:39 am 


Bears & Scotty dumb and dumber

Just when I thought you couldn’t get any dumber, you do something like this, and totally redeem yourself.

Posted December 28, 2012 7:38 am 


Danske bank

It’s Me, Ernie . The only bum here is you…Oliver McCall and Hasim Rahman was both decent contenders back then, but you are just one ignorant….

Posted December 28, 2012 7:35 am 


Nameless

the goal is to not get hit – 60 stitches bears and an eye nearly falling out

Posted December 28, 2012 7:33 am 


Nameless

tko6 be with you

Posted December 28, 2012 7:32 am 


BEARS

all you have to do is google viatly klitschko GOAT and you can see thats not what vitaly is being remebered as. and thats just not how institutions of sports like espn work. they will give the klitschkos their due. they dont opererate by nationalistic bias. in fact lennox is no american and neither is vitaly. its tough when you dont hear your countrymen backing your blind claims isnt it. but a knowledgeable party shutting your smack down………….BURN…..you got smoked tonight buddy,,,,,,,thoroughly dismantled……….good day

Posted December 28, 2012 7:25 am 


BEARS

the goal, objective. aim of boxing is not to get it and take risks. the goal is to not get hit. preserve the goldon goose, preserve yourself through dominance. hit and not being hit. dominance is aim of any sport. as i say below. there are no better masters at heavyweight. and you can bet your ace that stands for a great deal and jumps out of the realm you like to dwell in “subjectivity”

Posted December 28, 2012 7:22 am 


scottyboy

It was conclusive because lewis bust him up so badly that they had no choice than to stop it. It matters not anyway, vitali will always be remembered as the final stoppage victim of lennox lewis. That will never change and vitali’s name will always be on lennox’s record with the letters ‘W TKO’ after it. Get over it.

Posted December 28, 2012 7:21 am 


BEARS

yeah but you start looking really shanty your trying to dismantle the views of guys who have surrounded themselves with the sport and made a living this sport particularly or in the case of jim rome, all american sports. its a tall order trying to discredit these guys. its just not realistic. their objective and wouldnt last if they were not

Posted December 28, 2012 7:17 am 


scottyboy

Well in that case aren’t you doing the same by finding a separate quote that clashes with the one i gave?? I also dont care one iota what freddy roach, dan rafael, and lou duva say when the klitschkos fight. They are boring and take no risks and my opinion (echoed by millions around the world, hence getting dropped by hbo and only coming back for the haye fight) will not change. Give me big heavies but of the likes of david price anyday over those two cures for insomnia. They will be gone soon and will not be missed. Who will you drool over then bears??

Posted December 28, 2012 7:15 am 


Anonymous

Earnie Shavers knocked Larry Holmes out, he got back up, Larry Holmes.

Posted December 28, 2012 7:11 am 


BEARS

all the sudden you get prooved wrong, then you dont care, then you have new links as though they have more validity. i just posted steward and lewis. you have as we has already evidenced “multiple quotes” by lennox. you flip flop from caring to not caring obvously so who knows if you care about what you first support as evidence or not. it doesnt matter. LOL. the evidence speaks for itself and outside of lennoxs own words theres a ton

Posted December 28, 2012 7:08 am 


scottyboy

why do i care about that you twisted, naive, pathetic loser? Lewis has already beaten vitali convincingly so who cares why he didnt want to fight vitali? You never cease to amaze me with your unique blend of stupidity.

Posted December 28, 2012 7:00 am 


BEARS

are you incapable of absorbing not one but multiple posts that contradict what you think son? continue with your affection to my sack scotty

Posted December 28, 2012 6:59 am 


Anonymous

Larry Holmes was good, could take a punch, good jab.He beat fighters after he got knocked out against Tyson.

That’s why Tyson was good, he made Larry Holmes look like an old man, but Larry Holmes went on for a while after that, fighting some top fighters

Posted December 28, 2012 6:59 am 


scottyboy

Bears…it’s on the link below, surely not even a backward individual like you can try to turn that around. He states that Vitali is an arm puncher and NOT the hardest hitter he has faced. In stark contrast to the fiction you regularly post about it. You will never change because you are incapable of absorbing information that contradicts what you want to believe. You really dont even have the mental capacity to think whether the trash you type even makes any sense before you post it. Why on earth would lewis claim that vitali hits harder than rahman when we all saw lewis remain on his feet at all times in the vitali fight???

Posted December 28, 2012 6:49 am 


BEARS

i guess you dont watch jim rome or listen to what freddy roach, dan rafael, and lou duva say when the klitschkos fight. maybe you only know uk perspective. nobody describes the klitschkos as boring son. looking at a career in no way can we characterize either klitschko boring when looking at the entirety. we would be more apt to call many of the decisions ali and lennox fought in and countless others boring. you just dont know boxing. your just a hater. its cool. just accept what you are. your not a fan of the game. you must be some nationalist first. not a boxing fan. as fans we cant discount ANY aspect of the game and ANY WEIGHT

Posted December 28, 2012 6:41 am 


BEARS

boring is subjective stats and ko’s are not. the fact that most all heavyweights fight fodder. another fact. this is a sport and when we watch any sport we look at stats for a reason. if you dont understand that you dont understand sport yet. records are based on stats not subjectivity. you can call them what you want scottyboy. but i never thought ko’s and power shots were boring. klitschkos throw more punches than pretty much any heavy in history. thats not subjective son

Posted December 28, 2012 6:37 am 


scottyboy

I guess it must really burn that the klits will be regarded as the most boring hws ever. Irrespective of what merchant or anyone says, nothing will change that. Only a klitsucker or a sad individual with no knowledge of boxing would claim otherwise. They have both left a memory that thankfully won’t be missed in the slightest when they retire. Like Holmes, they will disappear in boxing’s history books but with the exception of without having beaten a single hof rated fighter between them.

Posted December 28, 2012 6:33 am 


scottyboy

Lewis did not say that at all and to the contrary vitali said that of Lewis. Some things will just never change; bears’ worshipping of the klits included. In fact Lewis states that vitali is an arm puncher with no more power than holyfield (see above link). Have a look at the picture too and try saying that the fight shouldn’t have been stopped or that the damage was caused by Lewis’ palm. More nonsense perpetrated by the klitsuckers.

Posted December 28, 2012 6:20 am 


Anonymous

Rubiks cube 800 metre, difficult,, you had to do the 400 metre at 49.5, to be fast enough, not too slow, then blitz the last 400 metre, don’t slow down in last 100 metres.

Posted December 28, 2012 6:19 am 


Anonymous

800 metre world record from 1981-1993, very difficult running world record to beat.

Posted December 28, 2012 6:11 am 


Anonymous

Sebastien Coe, a great athlete, he is Lord Coe now, but he was very good as an athlete, he did not mess about.

Posted December 28, 2012 6:01 am 


BEARS

yeah mccall was a very good boxer in my estimation. sometimes i get down on him over his “obvious problem”. but oliver mccall was very good. REALLY too bad. he lived a hard life and many of us can identify with that. i honestly dont believe what happened with lewis was a fluke. i do believe mccall was that good just troubled.mccall was a talent that did not reach “full potential”. any boxing scribe i think would agree on that matter. He has a good what i would call “real” stoppage rate. a lot of guy who have the win on mccall “pecked” him to death (loss) with what i would call “pecking” punches. and putting the woop’en on bruno……..yeah, a boxing fan cant deny mccall was no chump. just like sanders was no chump thats why lewis dodged and promoted cornelius sanders (corrie sanders).

Posted December 28, 2012 5:46 am 


scottyboy

It’s a shame that vitali will only be remembered as the last stoppage victim of the last great hw. Unfortunately both klits will be remembered even lower than Holmes who just happened to be in apitiful era too. This is how boxers are remembered. It doesn’t help that both klits are the most boring boxers ever.

Posted December 28, 2012 5:46 am 


BEARS

i dont think we should “ERASE”. i love the past greats. The crux of the debate gets “detailed”. when it comes to fans putting all the boxers into perspective. when thats the case. I’m a big believer in not just modern atheletics but the great super heavies who are powerful, smart, good plus minus ratio (dominance), the klitschko’s and lewis. I honestly like many well known analysts you see on tv these super heavies would beat the fighters of the past. I mean this is hypothetical. but really a fight fans views and thoughts, boils down to things of this nature. so the discussion reaches to these depths in any fight fans mind logically. this isnt just the “sweet science” but this is actually a real sport which will be profesionally evaluated. the game has evolved, boxing has EVOLVED. EVERYONE will pick up on dominance (thats how we examine the game, not by vulnerability and getting hit). and the game must be looked at as statistical perfection. the klitschkos and mayweather (embody that) are the faces of dominance. a layman might say the statistics dont compare to “who you fight” but we must be reminded that all pro’s fight “mostly” fodder and this is the same across the board, if we want to call lesser known opponents “Fodder” that is. also i would say lets take a look at mayweathers comp for careful examination and its really a situation thats similar to klitschko oppents but the belts were more fragmented. It condenses down to what i like to call “knowledgable subjectivity”. . vitaly vs lewis was a great but momentum, ring generalship was kinda one sided. i like lennox. if he was getting old maybe he’s right he shouldnt have taken the bout. but as an ardent follower of le nnox myself. he really never gave signs of slipping. he seemed more to “age like wine”. like he was right in saying. by no means if lennox had faded was it evident like it is with vitaly now

Posted December 28, 2012 5:09 am 


Anonymous

Jerry seinfeld, the womble joke, I nearly fell out the tree, I did laugh.

Posted December 28, 2012 4:36 am 


Anonymous

Fawlty towers, Manuel, eventually, eventually

Posted December 28, 2012 3:53 am 


Human Arguement

Revert back to the single cell Amoeba, eventually

Posted December 28, 2012 3:47 am 


TARK

It’s me Ernie the Enema Schnozzle posted, “Two bums knocked Lewis out early.” … Those two bums gave Lewis rematches—and one of those bums KO’d two (2) Heavyweight Champions with one shot each..

The Atomic Bull flattened Henry Akinwande like he was shot through the brain. HA was never stopped by anyone else but McCall. The Bull was the only Heavyweight Champion besides Vitali Klitschko who’s never been floored.. He had an iron chin, and a compact right hand bomb.

Posted December 28, 2012 3:45 am 


It’s Me, Ernie

“Vitaly was the only one to outbox lennox so convincingly. Nobody elses style could impose on lennox so thoroughly. Lennox got strait OUTBOXED. By what was a green vitaly with very little championship experience”. VK couldn’t do what two bums did to Lewis, and in less time. VK is waaay overrated.

Posted December 28, 2012 2:07 am 


Anonymous

The Wobles the Klitschkos, Wombles, remember you’re a Womble.

Posted December 28, 2012 1:30 am 


Anonymous

Lewis v Klitschko was a good fight, it was 9 years ago, a great fight, watch it again on youtube.

Posted December 28, 2012 12:25 am 


BEARS

Lewis and steward. Neither thought that fight was good for lewis. You know why? It wasn’t. Lewis lauded vitaly with praise. Saying vitaly is the hardest puncher and most difficult opponen he ever faced. Maybe guys like nameless, hidalgo, and redmond know better. Lol

Posted December 27, 2012 11:59 pm 


BEARS

It was funny lewis when asked about retirement was talkin about ageing like wine until he met vitaly. Now both klitschkos will fight longer than lewis and wlad will have fought a crap ton more bouts

Posted December 27, 2012 11:49 pm 


BEARS

Vitaly was the only one to outbox lennox so convincingly. Nobody elses style could impose on lennox so thoroughly. Lennox got strait OUTBOXED. By what was a green vitaly with very little championship experience

Posted December 27, 2012 11:44 pm 


BEARS

Hidalgo- terrible assesment. It was lewis who started with head and elbows and even trying to wipe the vasoline off vitalys eye. Nobody thoughtlennox was coming on they thought he was about to get stopped hence “one more big punch from vitaly and the championship is his” vitaly dogwalked lennox with blows in the 6th to theother side of the ring displaying master ring generalship and imposing his will. Vitaly was never phased by lennox but lennox was sent reeling and getting tee’ed off on multiple times. Please, what fight did u watch. The ONLY thing lennox acceled at in thebout was holding and hitting and working off that, working off the clinch. Lennox had zero control when it came to the range! 0 son! 0

Posted December 27, 2012 11:41 pm 


Nameless

Well said.

Posted December 27, 2012 11:37 pm 


Anonymous

If Haye honestly though he would beat Povetkin, Adamek, and Arreola, he would be fighting them like Nigel Benn use to say talk is cheap and Haye is a cheap guy. Klitscho should offer Haye no more then 10% of a fight as thats all Haye deserves of a Klitscho purse with Klitscho taking 90% beggers can’t be choosers and Haye is begging now. Povvetkin would make mince of Haye in Russia if they fought there and Haye know it.

Posted December 27, 2012 10:31 pm 


Haye v Solis

David James Bond Haye, the Quantum of Solis

Posted December 27, 2012 10:09 pm 


BEARS

Solis has quick hands and beat haye already. Solis ma be one but I would watch it. Where solis will end up I don’t know.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:58 pm 


Nameless

Solis is just too fat for his own legs. Not a pro sportsman

Posted December 27, 2012 9:51 pm 


Nameless

Nothing = Knocking out chisora – which VK didnt do.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:49 pm 


Anonymous

Slis is huge now, if he went swimming off Cuba, the Americans would think he was a big boat, it would be 1961 all over again.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:44 pm 


Patrick2

David Haye, be honest. The ONLY reason Vitali needs to fight you is to pad YOUR retirement. You’ve done NOTHING since your non-performance against the other Klitschko brother. Now go away and go EARN the right for another title shot.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:43 pm 


TARK

Haye vs Solis??? … Let’s get one thing clear. Solis is not a serious athlete. Just give him a giant screen TV, a soft couch, and a bucket of fritters … That should be obvious by now.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:28 pm 


TARK

Haye had only 10 fights when he fought Carl Thompson… He was a freakin’ neophyte. Thompson had something like 40 fights so it was a dumb matchup. Haye wasn’t down.. They pulled him out, which was the smart thing to do and he wasn’t damaged. I like to see fighters pulled quickly if they’re getting bombed. You need that tough chin later.

That fight has no more significance than Wladimir’s losses vs Purrity, Sanders, and Brewster—because Haye is a different fighter after so many years and 17 fights. That fight made him better. The Thompson who fought Haye wouldn’t last 3 rounds today.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:24 pm 


BEARS

he has not accomplished as much as povetkin and pulev******

Posted December 27, 2012 9:18 pm 


BEARS

I dont know tark i might agree but its subjective. too subjective. we really just dont know. haye is not a tried and true commodity. and he has not accomplished as much as haye or pulev. We just dont know on haye. i would even go for a haye vs solis rematch!!!!!!

Posted December 27, 2012 9:13 pm 


Anonymous

Haye v Thompson, 11th fight for Haye, 21 months after turning professional, he gassed, wasn’t really knocked out.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:13 pm 


TARK

I’m certain Haye would murder Povetkin, Adamek, and Arreola…those fights aren’t even a contest.. Pulev I believe would beat Haye… I know David Price is very talented, but the way his career is being handled, and his stinky matchups are for the birds.. Nobody can tell just how good Price is until he fights somebody who can go 11 or 12 rounds..

I think Haye would overwhelm Fury with speed and power if he fought him—but the guy Haye will run smack into if he keeps fighting is Pulev … and that guy has a good defense, keeps coming for 12 rounds, has a lot of weapons, and would be a huge problem for Haye.. Personally I would love to see them fight if Haye grows a pair.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:01 pm 


Anonymous

now we have lateef kayode coming to heavyweight up from cruiser. it was carl thompson who stopped haye in the 5th round and he weighted 198 lbs. so is carl thompson greater than haye or even the great wladimir klitschko? of course not. so stop attributing so much to the fact that haye stopped chisora who vitaly beat handily with ONE FREAKING ARM. as dan rafael pointed out

Posted December 27, 2012 8:59 pm 


Anonymous

Seth Mitchell would be huge in the USA if he stopped Chisora like that,

Posted December 27, 2012 8:58 pm 


BEARS

I dont think we can call haye the next best heavyweight out there if were basing it on his heavyweight resume. I wouldnt call him the best at all. I would put him behind povetkin, pulev, and maybe even the winner of arreola vs stiverne and potentially more fighters who actually fighting. haye beat chisora, valueve who retired and who’s scalp was worth what really? then haye has fought all the 39- 41 year olds. heavyweight has tons of matchups we want to see. haye is kind of irrelevant if you ask me. good on him if he all the sudden becomes a warrior and fights. but really he is irrelevant otherwise

Posted December 27, 2012 8:39 pm 


scottyboy

Anyone who picks a clumsy oaf like helenius or a powder puff feather like pulev over haye needs to seriously get on the right forum coz they don’t know shat about boxing and are making themselves look ridiculously bad.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:55 pm 


The Kingslayer

Just get this fight over with already.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:49 pm 


frank

writer you called it right wlad has beaten haye with ease . haye is nothing . but a pretender .beating this guy . was not a big win for wlad why would it be any bigger for vitali vitali defining fight what crap this guy haye never stop[s

Posted December 27, 2012 7:35 pm 


scottyboy

I don’t see how fighting haye does anything for vitali ‘s legacy and haye is the best opponent out there. Says it all about the pitiful crop of hws we’re cursed with over the last 12 or so years. It reads embarrassingly bad and as dominant as the klits have been, the question that will anger their klitsucker fans the most is – who have they actually beaten? I see no decent hw struggling with anyone on wlad ‘s record and vitali will only be remembered as lennox ‘s final stoppage victory.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:33 pm 


Special K

Bit harsh to call Chisora a British Domestic Level fighter. He showed in his fights against Helenius and Vitali, and even a little bit against Haye, that he’s at European level at least.

He’d be a good test for Price in 2013, assuming he can get a licence to fight again, and a definite step up in class for him.

Haye v Vitali – I’ve got a feeling this fight has already been made and that this is the beginning of a long and very tedious build up.

Posted December 27, 2012 7:22 pm 


TARK

Haye wants enough money to where he’s making a minimum of 40,000 a week on his investments… He wants to be like Floyd, Pac, and the K Bros, swimming in money. He hates the idea of going through a brutal training camp and fighting for 5 million when he could get at least 15 or 20 million. He figures he’s the best boxer and hardest puncher “in the world” and it’s an insult for him to fight anybody other than a K Bro.

If you suggest he fight Tyson Fury he looks at you like you’ve got 2 heads. “Tyson Fury? Fury could barely beat a fat Chisora and nearly got clocked. That would be an insult to the fans. If I can’t get Vitali nobody else in the world is a match for me. I’ll retire damn it.”

He has threatened to retire before of course.

Posted December 27, 2012 6:46 pm 


Puglife

Translation: Haye wants another payday though he’s done nothing to deserve it. Haye ought to consider moving to the US to become a professional wrestler because that’s where a clown like him belongs.

Posted December 27, 2012 4:58 pm 


King Chris

Vitali is above this clown.

Posted December 27, 2012 4:31 pm 


Nameless

U just want the Brit boxers to take each other out and make it easy on the belt holders

Posted December 27, 2012 4:30 pm 


SVDC

Can someone tell me why haye does not fight to become the mandatory for Vit or Wlad? There are interesting fights out there, mainly in the UK (Price, Fury), he will make good money and beating them almost surely will lead to a Klitscho fight. Sounds like a win win

Posted December 27, 2012 4:12 pm 


Nameless

TKO6

Posted December 27, 2012 4:11 pm 


Nameless

How to make multi millions of dollars in boxing without having to really fight or earn it. – Fight Charr or JMM

Posted December 27, 2012 3:51 pm 


SVDC

agree with MO-BOX. And as someone else already mentioned. Haye is ranked high in every box organization. The path to a new Klit fight, as a mandatory contender, is there. It’s up to him to have 1, 2 fights max against decent opposition to get there. Vitali does not owe him a present, if he wants it, he’ll have to fight for it

Posted December 27, 2012 3:29 pm 


Anonymous

TK06…

That wasn’t an “injury”, it was inflicted by a punch

Posted December 27, 2012 3:26 pm 


david haye the great con man

How to make multi millions of dollars in boxing without having to really fight or earn it. 1.have a bunch of fools for a fan base who will believe any thing you say.2.Fight some easy fights all the time be calling out tthe champs while your having these easy fights3.Talk big swear your going to do major damage to the champs get shirts with you cutting the heads off the champs. Remember you not really there to fight just make millions and millions 4.pick the easier champ the less aggresive one. So when you dont fight he will be content to let you survive. even when you lose most every rd it dont matter . Remember when you get the title fight and made your millions dont fight. If he steps forwards you step back if he get close step back circle away if he gets to close throw your self on the ground .Run away if you have to throw 1 or 2 punches a round perferable from far away a safe distance away . Dont get knocked out fighting be cause then you wont fool the public again for your next big payday . Have a excuse why you coundnt fight even if it seems riduculus at first. Remember your fool fan base will belive any thing a hurt pinky toe is good excuse .5. pick a fight at a press conference with a guy who hasnt won a fight in3yrs stage a fake fight .beat the guy who hasnt won a fight in 3 yrs in the ring .6 after you beat the loser 7. call out the champs brother say you will fight the champs older brother you know hes old remeber there is millions more to be made because your fool fan base will believe any thing you say

Posted December 27, 2012 2:56 pm 


mayweather86

If only he boxed as well as he talked

Posted December 27, 2012 2:29 pm 


Anonymous

@Mo-Box: could not agree more. your comment was a worthy read, a good and very balanced analysis. Good job, man.

Posted December 27, 2012 1:33 pm 


ROBBIE T

Haye is a really a load of hot air…just like his countryman audley harrison! Haye talked his usual b/s and then could bearly manage to win a round against Wladimir when they got in the ring……joker! Hopefully Vitali won’t bother to give this clown another undeserved payday….Peace……Robbie T

Posted December 27, 2012 1:00 pm 


Unbiased Dane

Fenners : what a load of bollocks :-D
I dont no where to begin, but whether they are boring or not are very subjective. Most boxing fans think a ko is the highlight of a fight, and i dont think you find eny saying ‘thank god this fight went true 12 rounds, it would have been so disappointing with a ko.’ The Klitschko´s have one of the highest ko ratio ever.
And the Klitschko´s are very popular, 12 to 13 millions watch their fights on tv, and the fill out soccerstadiums, no matter how big name they are fighting

Posted December 27, 2012 12:32 pm 


Mo-Box

Vit is clearly on the wrong side of the 40 now. While his unworldy fast reflexes are still there his old body now fails on him as seen in his last two fights: he has much degraded footwork and slowed handspeed, plus he’s more hittable now – he doesn’t lean back so fast anymore w/o losing his balance like before to come back countering.

Vitaly is basically an old worn taped-up warrior by now, relying purely on his skill with fights going into distance – common trend with old fading champs. But Vital is somewhat in an accelerated trend – his long kickboxing career has killed his legs, bad knees (they hit you into legs FFS in kickboxing, and HW kikboxing is just brutal to your lower body), plus he’s got a taped-up back, multiple times torn shoulders, damaged wrists (that’s why he arm-punches instead of power-punching just like Maywerather who has similar issues but lower weight saves your body unlike HW), and the list goes on.

Vitaly has all my respect and he’s an ATG – he holds a World Record on getting HW title with the least rounds boxed plus record on the highest KO percentage on all HW in history. Deffo an ATG, but his time has come IMHO. It’s better to retire than gamble with get beaten by an average contenders by an injury or just a failing body around you.

Plus his interests in politics now I think his passion for boxing is not the same anymore – he wants to KTFO Haye, but this might be a step too far at the current time and both Booth & Haye observed and smell the same – Vitaly is for the taking.

I hate Haye as a personality yet I take nothing away from his boxing ability (although I don’t consier him #3 like some here do) and I’d say Haye has a fair shot beating the current past-prime injury-prone Vitaly. If Haye comes to fight he’s deffo a potential TOP5 HW. Although even the current Vitaly could beat him but Haye definitely has a fair chance for an upset.

Let’s see what decision Vitaly makes. I’d want him to retire while on top, but nothing wrong giving a last fight, even when he loses it he’ll still go down as the “last-stand” warrior who had a great career and multiple World Records in boxing.

Wondering what happens in the post-Klitschko era? I think only then Klits will be apreciated. Probably the titles will be divided again, changing hands every or second fight and no true recognized champ won’t stand out in a couple of years, but hopefully someone good emerges bringing back the order and keeping the HW clean…

Posted December 27, 2012 12:23 pm 


tbone

haye is a complete idiot he is trying to talk himself into a payday, we feel for it the first time if i were haye i’d be ashamed to even say such idiotic comments, he has already proven beyond any doubt what he is. to all promoters, nobody will buy this fight, if losing money is your business go ahead and promote it

Posted December 27, 2012 11:50 am 


Jim

Vitali needs Haye like he needs a hemmroid. Haye’s mouth got him a Wladimir fight, and look what he did with it. It time people stop listening to this blowhard.

Posted December 27, 2012 11:38 am 


Anonymous

Vitaliy has legacy – never been lost except of injury. He has to leave right now, otherwise all of contenders mentioned in the article are able to beat him with no problems, including Haye. Haye was not beaten by Wlad easily. It was pretty even fight. Fight between two fighters that are scared of each other.

Posted December 27, 2012 10:53 am 


KO KIDD

And Haye will only be remembered for losing to Wlad…At least Vitali was ahead on points when the fight ended, Haye never came close to beating Wlad. Vitali has had a great career i dont think he is losing any sleep over whether his legacy depends on a guy whose most known for talking a great game but not delivering

Posted December 27, 2012 10:12 am 


The Greatest

All the people talking about Haye fighting Adamek, please give it a rest. Adamek is a one dimensional, walk-forward light heavyweight – Haye knocks him out inside 6. As for Vitali, a prime Vitali beats a prime Haye, but Vitali is clearly way past his prime, to the point where Haye wins via decision or late TKO.

Posted December 27, 2012 9:53 am 


Pans

Haye’s resume is no better than countless other contenders, he just wants to jump the queue again by mouthing off.

I would like to see a Vitali-Haye bout but i’d like to see Haye earn it by fighting some contenders, he’s just one fight removed from a loss. Haye conned his way to a big pay cheque last time, are peoples memories that short?

Posted December 27, 2012 9:46 am 


christov

Knowall,good point,a win over Haye would arguably be the best win of VK’s career,especially considering his age and being on the turn.If the fight does happen,which i seriously doubt,i expect to see VK “injure” his shoulder again,around round 7 or 8,when he realises he can’t figure hayes speed/movement out….

Posted December 27, 2012 9:00 am 


christov

If haye won’t do anything for Vitali’s legacy,who will? There’s nobody currently that poses a large threat to Vitali asides from Haye,so the point is,not does Vitali need haye for his legacy,because he doesn’t,beating an ex cruiser with limited heavyweight experience won’t do much to improve Vitali’s legacy,BUT, losing to a blown up cruiser would severely tarnish his legacy.That’s why Vitali doesn’t want any part of Haye,because he knows the risk – reward reward ratio is poor.The real point here is simply IF Vitali fights on,he should take on and demolish a real threat.Like Lennox did to Vitali all those years ago.Lennox,at the end of his career tookon one of the next generations dominant heavyweights in Vitali,on short notice.And stopped him.No longer can VK or his fans slate LL for not giving VK a rematch,when VK himself at the end of his career is fighting trash cans and avoiding the likes of Haye.It won’t wash.And please don’t harp on about VK being 41.He had a 4 year layoff to allow his body to recover and repair.VK should retire if he’s not up for a decent fight.He’s been a very good champ,if he feels he’s done all he can,then he should hang ‘em up and focus on his potential career in politics.

Posted December 27, 2012 8:54 am 


knowall

I think vitali will always have a legacy no matter what. What goes against him is his quality of opponents. Fighting a former heavyweight champion, and the last other than him and his brother plus a multipule cruise champion would be the biggest win of his career. Possibly with povetkin being paper champion that could be another top fight but the Haye fight is the one for me. Vitali would not have to much trouble beating haye either so its win win for him

Posted December 27, 2012 8:54 am 


The Greatest

3 or 4 years ago, vitali would have wiped the floor with Haye but now Vitali has slowed enough for Haye to get to him. Haye via decision/ late round TKO – yoou heard it here first.

Posted December 27, 2012 8:50 am 


Fenners

Are the Klitschkos the most effective heavyweights of all time? Probably. Are they the greatest? Certainly not. Why? For 3 reasons: 1) Although it’s not their fault there has been a complete lack of top quality opposition. 2) Sport is entertainment and they are possible the most boring world champions in history. 3) They have spent their entire careers beating up people who are the equivalent of 3 weight divisions beneath them. Again thius isn’t really their fault but lets be honest, if someone like David Haye was Wlads size then that fight wouldn’t have lasted very long.

Posted December 27, 2012 8:30 am 


gungading

I am sure Vitili is sitting around right now thinking “you know what I need right now, I need to fight that guy that ran away from my little brother for 45 minutes and had a hurt little pinky toe, that is what will get me respect at the end of my career”.
Just because Chael Sonnen can talk his way into a title fight in MMA does not mean ou can do the same in boxing.

Posted December 27, 2012 8:29 am 


Fuzzy

Who’ll remember Haye the clown…and what’s his legacy exactly wins over Harrison chisora Ruiz wow wee David you really are an all time great.winner takes all fight that way we see haye get a whooping like Vladimir inflicted on him but Haye doesn’t make a penny..David Haye no one likes you or respects your a nonentity of a carrier thats been made by your mouth not your fists.

Posted December 27, 2012 8:26 am 


Killing Moon The Soothsayer

LOL Haye certainly has his way with words…Now if he only fought more than once a year and we actually saw this legacy-fighter in action……Haye annialated Chisora and he gets the props from me for that…Talking about his resume in the HW’s that’s kinda the only thing i respect him….So in all reality if a fight happens with Vitali ….Haye owes his everlasting gratitude….Let’s face it the only reason he has a scene for his comments is because of the K-bros…Where they not around who would care.

Posted December 27, 2012 8:26 am 


Red Ryan

Rocky Marciano, Joe Lewis, Sugar Ray Robinson. are considered greats, the guys they all beat werent that hot. So what gives…

Posted December 27, 2012 7:54 am 


Red Ryan

Why tell lies??

Posted December 27, 2012 7:48 am 


nemo

crybaby haye…. blabla bla

Posted December 27, 2012 6:41 am 


PEEJ

It’s true that Vitali is nothing without Haye. Vitali’s legacy will be in tatters if they never meet, of that there is no doubt.

Posted December 27, 2012 6:21 am 


Neil(pomy)

i like Haye but he is talking rubbish here

Posted December 27, 2012 6:10 am 


Adrian

All today’s haveyweight should hurry up and try and get a fight
With both klitchkos if they want to
Be known that they faced the best haveyweights in a history!

Posted December 27, 2012 5:32 am 


Adrian

So haye the question is where is your legacy??
ANd what happen to” iwill clean out the haveyweight
Devision”??

Posted December 27, 2012 5:29 am 


huckster

Didn’t Vitali get beaten up by Lewis? Wouldn’t it be ironic to get knocked out by Haye?

Posted December 27, 2012 4:35 am 


TARK

There’s no debate NOW… There never will be a real debate about VK’s greatness. Vitali won 45 of 47 fights and held the Heavyweight Championship until he was 41 years old.. Along the way he knocked out 3 guys who knocked Wladimir Klitschko down a total of 8 times and knocked Wladimir out twice.. He beat 6 world Champions and 6 undefeated Heavyweight Contenders while having to share the title with his younger brother most of the time … VK has a better KO ratio and better winning percentage than any Heavyweight Champion in over 50 years. He has never been knocked down. He has never been behind on points—so the 2 fights he officially lost were due to injuries and not due to legal punches landed.. He lost them despite being ahead on points, so he has never been out-boxed … It’s almost weird, but that’s all true.

Posted December 27, 2012 4:00 am 


John

Not sure about building his legacy, VK is a great fighter but if he defeated Haye at 41 there could never be any debate.

Posted December 27, 2012 2:19 am 


BEARS

I’m not saying beating hayes ass wouldn’t be sweet but we have detractors on here always talkin smack for fighting guys like adamek. They think at heavyweight formr cruisers can’t be successful then they talk up old feather fisted holyfield the next sentence out of their mouth. Guys like sredmond flip flop all over the place to talk klitschko smack. These will say if vitaly wins haye was just a little guy. Its all risk for vitaly to considering what these detractors will say. Vitaly is damned if he does and dmned if he does not in their eyes. Vitaly is THE GOAT and the klitschko brothers are increaseingly being perceived as fighters who could whip anyones ass in any era in boxing. These are the views of dan rafael, freddy roach, jim rome, lou duva etc. This is just growing all the time and it only grows as wlad smashes records as vitaly has don with highest stoppage rates, never being outboxed or loosing, never getting a standing 8, a knock down, or ko. In the annals of boxing history. The klitschko brothers set themselves apart from everyone else in many ways. And they have an entire ERA. Their accomplishments are unrivaled in history

Posted December 27, 2012 1:54 am 


Georgio

Haye wants your money. You want to do something about it then I say if the fight happens dont buy this PPV dont support this garbage

Posted December 27, 2012 1:24 am 


BEARS

David haye did all that crap to the klitschkos and he thought he was gonna walk into their house and be treated kindly? LOL! I love that pic on this article

Posted December 27, 2012 1:04 am 


BEARS

I have never seen anyone more unwilling than haye to fight. I have never seen a non number one contender go through all this. I mean seriously it shouldn’t be hard for haye to make himself number one and put the work in. Like wht happened after vitaly faced lewis which made the wbc DEMAND and make MANDATORY the vitaly vs lennox rematch which in turn FORCED lennox into retirement rather than face what was in his heart the supperior fighter vitaly klitschko THE GOAT

Posted December 27, 2012 12:43 am 


BEARS

I meant dos santos is gonna “beat” woop caines ace using boxing. I think. Dos santos relies on his boxing

Posted December 27, 2012 12:34 am 


Anonymous

I agree

Posted December 27, 2012 12:32 am 


BEARS

Dos santos is gonna be cains tar star next week using boxing. Imagine a barefisted wladimir klitschko strait right or jab nailing somebody! Just brutaly as all hell

Posted December 26, 2012 11:45 pm 


BEARS

Haye should just tell the sanctioning body to put a mandatory eliminator together or ask how something can be put together. Haye can’t be more than one or two good fights or an eliminator away. Arreola and stievern will be fighting within a couple months for the mandatory challenger in the wbc

Posted December 26, 2012 11:42 pm 


Anonymous

Lets Haye beat a single top 10 contender first, say Price or Fury
then he can prove he is not fighting generally weak opposition
and that he could bring some positive input into Vitaly’s legacy.
Right now he is somewhere near Brewster, Peter, Chagaev, etc …
this mean former belt holder barely relevant to the HW division.

Posted December 26, 2012 11:37 pm 


Alonzo

Bears,

I very much agree.

Posted December 26, 2012 11:37 pm 


BEARS

Sonnens a badass warrior. I’m all for sonnen vs silva 3. I hink bisping hurt sonnens punch resistance. If charr beats chisora then chisora will be destroyed

Posted December 26, 2012 11:31 pm 


Alonzo

At least when Chael Sonnen talks himself into a fight (His trash talk is on a whole other level) he fights. Haye just will get in there and run away and take a beating and the boxing public (or whomever clamored for this travesty of a fight) will look stupid for asking for a predictably boring fight.

Posted December 26, 2012 11:26 pm 


BEARS

Cicero- good post. I miss corrie too. Sanders was just an awesome guy. That guy gave about 1000 times more excitement than hayehas given. What a sad way for cornelius to go, shielding his daughter from unfire. Sanders was the real warrior. One of the great warriors of boxing. If that guy could fight in the second half of a fight he way he did in the first few rounds! My god! Look out! I don’t wish haye ill but he needs to get off his ass and fight. He could’ve fought once or twice now since chisora. U know what’s gonna be funny? If charr smashes chisora in the upcoming bout and shows that chisora was damaged goods

Posted December 26, 2012 11:25 pm 


Alonzo

Concise and to the point–well said!

Posted December 26, 2012 11:21 pm 


Anonymous

Do it…would love to see haye get destroyed

Posted December 26, 2012 11:21 pm 


Alonzo

His legacy would be better right now if he sealed it with a fight with someone even like Goral rather than a douche-bag that talks herself into a fight then runs away and takes a beating. A Vittles fight with the Englishwoman with the broken toe would be a carbon copy of his brother’s fight with her. Did anyone see the englishwoman’s face after her fight with Wlad? Why should the boxing public have to suffer through this douchebaggery when there are plenty of Eurohonkies in line that actually earned a shot.

Posted December 26, 2012 11:20 pm 


Lenzo

At least Vitali already has built a legacy unlike Haye

Posted December 26, 2012 11:14 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

You can repeat it 40,000 more times Tard, but Vitali lost to Lewis. It happened, get over it.

Posted December 26, 2012 11:04 pm 


Nameless

pics of the dirty trick ringwalk the k2 camp pulled. *shakes head*.

Posted December 26, 2012 10:22 pm 


Robot

Haye departed to la-la land a while ago Vitali couldn’t give a lesser fsukk about him at this juncture. Agree with writer, Haye scalp would do nothing for Vits legacy. It is what it is and it is quite amazing , in my books anyway.

Posted December 26, 2012 10:09 pm 


Anonymous

lets face it….. whats not to like for 2 of the worlds top 5 HW to fight???….lets all get ready to rumble!!!….

Posted December 26, 2012 9:51 pm 


TARK

Haye has called Adamek out…. That would be another comparison fight because Adamek went most of the distance with Vitali… Haye figures he’ll have Adamek out in 2 rounds.

Posted December 26, 2012 9:20 pm 


Nameless

vitali – calls haye out, then retires.

Posted December 26, 2012 9:19 pm 


hookoffthejab

haye should be calling out tomasz and or puffcakes tomasz has the fan base to plunder truth be known david haye is WACK …

Posted December 26, 2012 9:17 pm 


Anonymous

Haye is trash.

Posted December 26, 2012 9:13 pm 


ken

this clown but smart man talked his way into a huge pay day and is trying again they dont need him..his wallet needs them

Posted December 26, 2012 9:11 pm 


Greatest

Haye certainly rates himself. As if Klitcjkho needs Haye for he legacy.OH FFS! What a joke! PS: For “Nameless” read “clueless”.

Posted December 26, 2012 9:11 pm 


hutch

haye is a stupid joke he blows off at the mouth better than he fights the guys a total tool bag.

Posted December 26, 2012 9:03 pm 


Chris Shiverdecker

Nameless sucking Haye’s c@ck in every other comment. Maybe let people have their opinions. They are entitled to it you useless fan boy. Haye is a boring f@ggot. Vitali doesn’t need the homo and f@g boy didn’t earn a big pay day with his f@g performance against Wlad. f@ck this f@ggot.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:38 pm 


Paul Cicero

Wish Haye would have died instead of the classy Mr. Corrie Sanders.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:36 pm 


Nameless

actually that was a rare highligh in Vitali’s career. That was a good fight for once.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:36 pm 


Nameless

Oh and conflict of interest – cant forget that. You are on the payroll.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:32 pm 


Nameless

Therefore you are BIASED. I said rape not slavery – thats far worse. Public negs if all is above board – clearly it isnt!

Posted December 26, 2012 8:30 pm 


K.C.

This is boring!

Posted December 26, 2012 8:24 pm 


CHEF

NAMELESS. Im also the team/training camp manger. Im closer to the situation then you will ever be. These are not “slave contracts” these are fully negotiated contracts with BOTH sides giving and taking.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:20 pm 


Wickerman

Vitali Klitschko annoys me with his his plodding style and bullying of mostly smaller fighters, but his legacy is secure, and he doesn’t need you Mr Haye. So leet it be ffs.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:18 pm 


Zzt

Nobody but brittards wants to see this f@ggot fight.

Posted December 26, 2012 8:13 pm 


Hello, Halberstram. Nice tie. How the hell are you?

Nameless here on cue to suck Haye’s tiny c@ck. This f@ggot doesn’t deserve the fight and won’t get it.

Posted December 26, 2012 7:49 pm 


PEDcquiao is Clean

Vitali “The Little Pinky Toe Killer” Klitschko — what a legacy

Posted December 26, 2012 7:48 pm 


PEEJ

I am not Klitchko fan but Haye is all talk and no bite. You can’t talk a bunch of garbage and then come fight night claim a toe injury is the reason why you didn’t win when all you did was run around the ring. Just stop with your lame talk and retire already or do what ever it is you do accross the pond

Posted December 26, 2012 7:36 pm 


PEEJ

Sorry but when you have a fighter that talks all that garbage and then shows up on fight night running then claiming a toe injury is just ridiculous. So Haye does not get the respect he wants because he is all talk and no bite

Posted December 26, 2012 7:34 pm 


Nameless

Haye asked for Public negs last time – which side turned that down and why?

Posted December 26, 2012 7:25 pm 


robbo

This article is so biased its unbelievable, you go on about Chisora being a British level domestic heavyweight and Haye should prove himself. That’s okay and true, but Chisora is the same British domestic heavyweight that Vitali struggled with for 12 rounds and Haye ko’d him in 5.

Vitali should just retire the only meaningful fight out there is Haye but Klitscho fans don’t want to see it.

Vitali is old if you don’t want to see him fight the best then get him to retire please, im sick of seeing him fight Manual Charrs.

Posted December 26, 2012 7:16 pm 


CHEF

NAMELESS… i forgot you are so close to the contract dealing…. oh wait… thats me!!!!. you are clueless. You think you know what goes on, but you don’t. You would be SHOCKED of your hero Haye if you really knew how the talks go on

Posted December 26, 2012 7:10 pm 


Lenin

Vitali needs to fight you for your bank account, that’s what you wanted to say, David. Right? Right. David, come back from retirement and fight the likes of Price, Fury, Pulev, and so on. Don’t go for somebody who is REALLY retiring. Vitali is already at work in the parlament. His pro career is over, and you know it!

Posted December 26, 2012 7:07 pm 


Nameless

Klits camp cant even spell three letter words! LMAO

Posted December 26, 2012 7:05 pm 


Nameless

Chef – K2 are the most unethical contractors in boxing. Yet haye has signed……….doesnt wiggy keep you informed?

Posted December 26, 2012 7:04 pm 


Shameful

Look for the Haye groupie ‘Nameless’ to come in here and inflate his hero and his garbage showing against Wlad while talking s-hit about the brothers. Any time now. Won’t be long.

Posted December 26, 2012 6:59 pm 


Hero Toe Zero

Why is a 3rd thread on this a-hole necessary when there are 500+ comments in the other 2? Guy is a boring a-hole. Vitali doesn’t need him. Haye is nothing. Never accomplished s/h!t at HW and only wants to cash out. Fk him.

Posted December 26, 2012 6:57 pm 


Hidalgo

In my opinion, David Haye should be the top-ranked heavyweight contender at present. However, he did not make an honorable or worthy attemp in his “fight” with Wlad, and therefore did not demonstrate to Vitali that he was a worthwhile opponent. If I was Vitali I would say, “Sorry David, you had a chance to prove your worth against my brother. But you embarassed both him and yourself with your pathetic showing which you tried to justify with a bum toe. Sorry dude, you are not worthy of my attention.”

Posted December 26, 2012 6:32 pm 


DERPY

This guy doesn’t have an inflated ego, nah, not at all.

Posted December 26, 2012 6:29 pm 


CHEF

SIGN THE CONTRACT DAVID… a lll you had/have to do is sign…. Now that the brothers are tired of your crap, they dont even think about you and you are desperate with constant talking in the media. Haye is getting desperate now

Posted December 26, 2012 6:20 pm 


K.K.

Why do boxing sites even still write about this clown? He already talked himself into a paycheck with Wlad and tries to do exactly the same with Vitali.

He’s a good boxer. Pity he destroys any credibility he might’ve had by being a clown.

Posted December 26, 2012 6:12 pm 


King Leonidas MN

@ Peej…..You took the words out of my mouth. David Haye might be good but he certainly is NOT that good.

Posted December 26, 2012 6:11 pm 


Anonymous

Haye certainly thinks a lot of himself.

Posted December 26, 2012 6:09 pm 


Love-the-Sport

This is a joke right? Vitali needs to fight Haye for his legacy? That is a joke right?

Posted December 26, 2012 6:05 pm 


PEEJ

Um no hhe doesn’t. I am not a Klitchko fan but his legacy is intact, it is your legacy that you need to worry about. Really Haye has no legacy at all. Once he is done he will be forgotten about. As a matter of fact he already forgotten about

Posted December 26, 2012 6:04 pm 



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