K2FanKeep chuckling , that was what , K2FanName three fighters greater than the fabulous Chuck Wepner . I can just imagine what he would do to the Klitchko Brothers , if he got his hands on them ! Yet , Ali managed somehow to finaly knock him down , with 19 seconds left in the 15 th round ! Who says he’s not the ” Greatest ” ? Posted August 29, 2012 7:15 pmMr Rubes2slick you idiot. Big difference. Straight after Puritty beat Wlad he would win only 3 of his next NINE fights, including a TKO loss to Vitali. Sanders would get KTFO by Vitali just after Wlad, win 3 more against tamatoe cans and then KTFO in 1 by another tamatoe can. And Byrd would lose convincingly in his next fight to Wlad just after the Vitali fight. IF all you named actually kept on winning then of course a rematch would have been inevitable. But at the time a rematch did NOT make sense. The COWARDLY LION Lewis, on the other hand, was ORDERED to fight Vitali and he RAN. So a rematch that DID make sense could not happen because of the colour YELLOW. Posted August 27, 2012 8:27 pmRoy AndrewsWach has a better chance than Charr against a Klitchiko, but personally I expect both Klitstchikos to win. Rather amusing to see how some people call others names just because they do not agree with them. Normally one would be happy they are being give a opinion different their own, so they can get another perceptive to campare with their own. Just wondering Posted August 27, 2012 7:49 pmBan corrupt judgesBoth guys are very slow which mean they have zero chance . Neither represents a threat whatsoever. I wouldn’t think either Charr or Wach will see a top ten ranking after these fights. Posted August 27, 2012 3:02 pmAnthonyBut he also had many fights against great fighters! Posted August 26, 2012 6:34 pmPigManAll I am sayin is that people criticize Vitali for defending against a no name opponent. But The Greatest, Ali had many snooze fest no name fights Bill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)Stupid Nazi btch. Posted August 25, 2012 9:43 amBeer Party MovementCould we please leave out the namecalling Posted August 25, 2012 8:17 amBill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)@Tony da Nazi loser. ANOTHER POINTLESS BS OPINION OF YOURS…TRY TO EXPLAIN “WHY…I am sure you are unable to, Nazi troll. Posted August 25, 2012 2:05 amTARKJuergen Blin… Brian London… Jean Pierre Coopman… Richard Dunn… Alfredo Evangelista… Chuck Wepner… and Ruddi Lubbers… None of these Ali opponents would have gotten to the quarter finals of the 2012 Olympic Games … Deontay Wilder would have KO’d them all inside of 4 rounds. Posted August 25, 2012 12:47 amPigManexactly……….. Posted August 24, 2012 11:08 pmBeer Party MovementPigman: Juergen Blin was fighting in the ‘golden era’ so there are no way he could be a bum :cool: Posted August 24, 2012 9:09 pmNoppornNeither of them. Posted August 24, 2012 8:50 pmPigManMuhammad Ali vs Juergen Blin………another bum of the month for Ali. unbelievable! Posted August 24, 2012 7:30 pmSir Henryoh ya, and Henry Cooper KO’d Muhammad Ali, Dundee had to use smelling salts acdcyou are a but hole surfer racist……………. Posted August 24, 2012 7:23 pmIt’s Me, Ernie…Good point. :lol: Posted August 24, 2012 5:18 pmIt’s Me, Ernie…Be sure and run that past Briggs the next time you see him. Posted August 24, 2012 5:13 pmTARKJohansson made the Hall and never had a single successful title defense… After Brian London almost knocked Johansson out Ingo said, “If I don’t quit now, pretty soon my sister will knock me out.” …. Two-time world champions such as David Haye, Tomasz Adamek, and Shannon Briggs will make the Hall. Although I’d prefer if Briggs didn’t get in. Posted August 24, 2012 3:21 pmTony1244Chagaev and Sam Peter making the HOF is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read. Posted August 24, 2012 12:54 pmwhiteman in denial ali was truly the greatestlennix lewis whipped that white ass Posted August 24, 2012 11:34 amwhiteman in denial ali was truly the greatestali beat 9 hall of famers the kilto’s have beat none and never will they don’t have the skills haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa Posted August 24, 2012 11:30 amwhiteman in denial ali was truly the greatestnone of the bums the two kilto’s bums have fought will ever make the hall ever except for lennix lewis and they lost that fight lost ali beat 9 hall fighters the kilto’s bums beat 0 the score is 9-0 Posted August 24, 2012 11:28 amRAY GORDON REIDVITALI OVER CHARR TIME 11.20 AM Posted August 24, 2012 11:15 amPigManAli vs Henry Cooper………………………AND COOPER KNOCKED ALI”S ASS OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 Posted August 24, 2012 10:33 amPigManAli vs Robert Dunn………………and yet another bum of the month for ALI. Posted August 24, 2012 10:33 amPigManAli vs Rudi Lubbers……another all time great fight by Ali. Posted August 24, 2012 10:31 amHenry CooperCooper Knocked out Cassius Clay. Clay was a punk. Posted August 24, 2012 10:27 amBoxster*Thinks Bill needs new crayons~~* :roll: Posted August 24, 2012 10:25 amKO KIDDNeither to me has any chance but if your asking who has more of a chance its Charr based on the possibility Vitali gets old over night or gets hurt during the fight Posted August 24, 2012 9:56 amBill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)@whitemen in denial. Another Nazi btch here. How can someone be so stupid to not realize that A BOXER HAS TO BE A RETIRED EX-WORLD CHAMPION IN ORDER TO BE ELECTED INTO HALL OF FAME. MANY OF HIS PAST OPPONENTS HAVE JUST RETIRED OR EVEN STILL FIGHTING. Now listen here Nazi loser, Chris Byrd, Lamon Brewster, Sultan Ibragimov, Samuel Peter, Davey “Toe” Ga ye, Ray Mercer, Ruslan Chagaev and some others, all have a possibility to be elected into HOF in the future…I also have a lot of REAL STATISTICAL FACTS and can easily prove that Cassy Clay, 28-4 (9 ko’s) sucks in comparison with Vladimir KlichKO 58-3 (51 KTFO)…but I don’t have that lot of time which you Nazi troll have, I’m a working man and got to leave this conversation. Bye Bye Now…P.S. Fk all the Nazi btches aka KlichKO haters :) Posted August 24, 2012 9:47 amBill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)And 58 wins mean nothing???? Ok boy, you are a PROVEN NAZI BTCH aka KLICHKO HATER. You’ll get a stamp on your forehead “Nazibtch”. Posted August 24, 2012 9:34 amwhiteman in denial ali was truly the greatestwho our these two bums let me tell you until the kilto’s bums beat a great hall fighter they are nothing this is pathetic and sad just bum after bum Posted August 24, 2012 9:31 amrodCharr is arab, an arab will never be heavy weight champ, they are just not athletic Posted August 24, 2012 9:12 amrodVitali has never been knocked down but i am actually begining to think a prime Wlad even with a suspect chin would beat a prime Vitali. Wlad is faster with his hands, faster on his legs and despite Vitali having a higher ko ration Wlad hits harder. Vitali would be better on the inside in a slug fest but wlad would most likely control the fight and keep it at distance. I am beginning to think Wlad may become the GOAT Posted August 24, 2012 9:07 amrodwach is freaking dangerous, charr is the biggest bum out there. All respect to wlad for facing wach but vitali facing “charred bum” is disgraceful. Vitali through his whole career has only ever faced two tall boxer-punchers….lennox lewis and timo hoffman and those two fights really tested vitali and were epic. It is a real shame vitali has not fought more tall power boxers, all respect to wlad, wach will be a test, a new challenge and maybe at least for 4-5 rounds a hard entertaining fight. Hopefully wlad will face more tall guys in the future like helenius, ustinov, fury and price when they are ready Posted August 24, 2012 8:58 amdwcBoth these guys cant win in a k-bros match up.But Charr has better all around skills Wach has no real skills.Wach is over 30 with junk fights on his record Charr will do more in boxing overall but will never be champ. Posted August 24, 2012 8:41 amCurtleyIt does and always will hurt Wlad that he never rematched Sanders and to a lesser extent Purity, I say lesser extent because he simply gassed against the American whereas he got smashed from Pillar to post by Sanders. Posted August 24, 2012 8:36 amCurtleyI always have a chuckle at your posts and can’t help thinking of ‘the best real HW ever’ getting annhilated by Corrie Sanders. :razz: Posted August 24, 2012 8:32 amBill (KlichKO brothers are the best REAL HEAVYWEIGHTS ever)IT’S CLEAR. CHARR, because Vitaliy is a 41 years old boxer, who are not fast and not a hard puncher. At least no more. As I see the situation, Vladimir KlichKO at this stage is obviously the best real heavyweight ever, the most dangerous one ever, he is a murderous puncher (the best one ever) and fantastically fast and agile, add to this his brilliant defense, and HUGE EXPERIENCE ON THE HIGHEST LEVEL (In fact he is the most experienced real heavyweight ever). Vladimir KlichKO is a living legend and actually a ring veteran. UNCLE VLAD IS IN HIS ABSOLUTE PRIME TIME NOW. No chance for anybody, not just for Wach. Posted August 24, 2012 5:59 amThe Great Black Dopethis is a silly clueless brit that is still too dumb to avoid being conned by that punk haye. go watch the homo flop his way to defeat against wlad and ask yourself if he really cares about beating a klit. he wants the money you moron and thats it. when he gets in against a klit and the bell rings he has no balls. wake up you retard. NO ONE is afraid of haye. Posted August 23, 2012 11:33 pmThe Great Black Dopehaye DOESNT have a chance, you moron. you think that coward will try against a klit? he will run and flop and take his money and run. go back and wtch his gutless performance against wlad. that homo should never get another big payday from a klit after that pathetic showing. he beat chisora AFTER helenius, vitali and fury did, big whoopdeedoo. the whole damn world beat that bum which is why homo haye fought him in the first place. Posted August 23, 2012 11:30 pmThe Great Black DopeOne more moron that has to cling to fights that are 9-12 years old and lewis was losing the fight when he got bailed out by the ring dr. i guess this moron also missed wlad-brewster rematch. Posted August 23, 2012 11:25 pmThe Great Black DopeHoly doesn’t need any more brain damage. Posted August 23, 2012 11:22 pmBeer Party MovementIf its true, how the hell could a amateur like chuck Wepner get ranked as high as top ten, in the so called golden era ?. Posted August 23, 2012 7:53 pmBeer Party MovementRobo Writer ‘ The Klitschkos fighting anyone is no different from hunters clubbing baby seals. The K Bros are invincible.’ :lol: :lol: :lol: Posted August 23, 2012 7:45 pmPansWach has the better chance definitely. I don’t think Charr would beat Vitali if Vitali was 50years old, dissapointing match up for Vitali to go out on if this is his last fight. Posted August 23, 2012 6:27 pmbacontownRaise your hand if you have never seen either of these Klitscho opponents! Posted August 23, 2012 6:03 pmPavelCharr’s best win was not his stoppage victory over a shot Danny Williams but either his point decisons over Pedro Carrion or Taras Bidenko. Paul McCreathChap69=Povetkin doesn’t fight Wlad because he knows he would lose and the WBA don’t force the issue because they would rather get sanctioning fees from two belt holders.It is all about the money those crooks like to keep coming in. Posted August 23, 2012 4:45 pmTorgoCan’t blame the Klitschkos for not fighting anybody because the top shelf contenders who have yet to fight a Klitschko keep saying “not ready yet”. Somebody might get the idea that those guys will be ready when the big Ukrainians retire from the ring. And then there’s David Haye, who talked his way into a title fight but when he was actually in the ring with Vladimir, Haye looked as courageous as Dick Cheney during the Vietnam war. Posted August 23, 2012 4:20 pmPigManPovetkin will get Knocked Out if he faces Wlad. proWilder vs Wlad is the fight and Holyfield vs Vitali is the two fights that need to happen. Posted August 23, 2012 3:22 pmchap69Why doesn’t Povetkin get a shot as he’s the number one contender, i don’t understand how he defends his plastic title without getting to fight Wladimir for the main one ! Posted August 23, 2012 2:45 pmDr. BillThe Klitschkos are admirable for a number of reasons, but surely one of them is their pure professionalism – the way, for example, that Wladimir treated his losses to Sanders and Brewster as a learning experience, made adjustments, and worked his way back to the top. Not many fighters would come back, as he did, from two ko defeats in close succession. They don’t have many losses on their records in any event, and with the exception of Wladimir’s early loss to Purrity, all their losses have been to fighters who were first-rate (Lewis, Brewster, Byrd) or capable of being first-rate (Sanders). I don’t find them to be boring fighters at all – their over-matched opponents are the ones who make their fights boring. When they are faced by good big fighters willing to fight – as they were in their losses to Lewis and Brewster, and in Wladimir’s first fight with Peter – their fights are entertaining. Their problem – in my view – has been chiefly the lack of professionalism among the majority of the contenders they have faced – look at the out-of-shape physiques of some of them – Solis, say – and the vulgar machismo of others – Chisora, Haye, etc. I don’t rate either Klitschko quite as high as Lewis in his prime, but they are surely not far behind, which puts them, I believe, in the top ten of all-time heavyweights. Posted August 23, 2012 2:11 pmRobo WriterVitali fights mostly no-hopers? Not quite. Vitali has defended against the best available opponents, such as Arreola, Solis, and Gomez, and Adamek. After clearing out top opposition, Vitali is certainly entitled to some easy fights. It’s not Vitali’s fault that he and Baby Bro. have run out of top opponents. Posted August 23, 2012 11:59 amRobo WriterBut Wepner was ranked 10th worldwide by Ring Magazine at the time, and was generally borderline top-10 with the other magazines and alphacrooks. He was also on a nine fight winning streak. There was nothing wrong Ali making this defense. True, Wepner was the absolute worst of the available ranked contenders, but he was ranked (at that moment), at the least. All great champs deserve easy defenses every once and a while, particularly if they’re defending against all opposition. Posted August 23, 2012 11:55 am2slickIf we’re going to be as black and white as “Lewis ran from Vitali because Vitali had his number etc” then “Vitali ran from Byrd and Wlad ran from Sanders – cos dem git dey numbah, herp derp”. Irrespective of the fact that Lewis, at the arse end of his career, actually pulled out the ‘W’ with a face shredding TKO in 6 rounds Posted August 23, 2012 11:45 amDamian:mrgreen: Posted August 23, 2012 11:37 am2slickThe same old tired nonsense. I didn’t see Wlad giving anything back to Sanders, neither Vitali to Byrd. Oh and as for Lennox – TKO6. Posted August 23, 2012 11:35 am2slickYes Ali Wepner was bad but Ali really is the worng guy to reference to defend the Klitschko brothers making soft defences. Ali has possibly the richest resume at the weight. Beyond the fights against the greats Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Liston, Patterson he also beat top contenders. There’s far more wheat than chaff on his resume, Ellis, Quarry, Chuvalo, Terrell, Mildenberger, Young, Folley – top names – the list goes on and on. For Vitali in particular his record is guys mostly on the level of this Charr no hoper. Posted August 23, 2012 11:32 amK2FanOf which ONLY Purity got away without a beating ! The rest got theirs , and Lenny ran, hid , and retired sdManuel charr struggled to beat zack page on points thats my answer Posted August 23, 2012 11:26 amPigManAli / Wepner another great defense. Posted August 23, 2012 11:17 am2slickExcept when facing Purrity, Sanders, Brewster, Byrd or Lewis Posted August 23, 2012 11:05 amRobo WriterIsn’t it oxymoronic to question who has “a chance” against a Klitschko brother? At this rate, I think Greenpeace or some other wildlife protection group will have to get involved in boxing. The Klitschkos fighting anyone is no different from hunters clubbing baby seals. The K Bros are invincible. Posted August 23, 2012 10:35 amwilderCharr has no chance of winning. He is Arab. They need to be 10 men with knives against a single man to win. Just watch the streets of bigger EU cities. Arabs also loses all their wars as countries. Very very low moral. Posted August 23, 2012 9:29 amDamianForgot to add – it then allows people who don’t really understand how the boxing business works to write “so and so REFUSED to fight so and so”, and as most people seem to have 5 second attention spans these days, that then snowballs until it’s all that is remembered. Posted August 23, 2012 9:04 amknowallCouldnt agree more damian Posted August 23, 2012 8:55 amDamianOf course he refused, he was offered a prohibitive contract. It’s a common tactic when you don’t want to fight someone – offer a contract for a pittance, with options, so that the opponent has no choice but to decline and try to raise his profile and strengthen his position. Which Haye has done by easily KO-ing the guy Vitali couldn’t. Haye should be up next, but I’m guessing he won’t be. Vitali won’t fight anyone who actually has a chance. Posted August 23, 2012 8:41 amSMEHaye REFUSED to fight Vitali, because he got a higher payday for Chisora. Don’t twist the facts (aka lieing). Posted August 23, 2012 8:36 amSMESimple. it’s Charr, by a mile. Wach – 0.0001% (freak injury), Charr 3% (injury). Posted August 23, 2012 8:34 amPaul McCreathBoth Wach and Charr have close to zero chance of victory but nothing in boxing is 100 percent.Both brothers should win by KO likely after about 8 rounds.Neither is known for early finishes. Posted August 23, 2012 8:15 amAndy BTo be honest I’ve got more chance of pulling Holly Valance than these 2 clowns have of causing an upset Posted August 23, 2012 7:45 amDamianNeither fighter has a snowball’s chance in hell – easy defences for the Klit bros as they milk their fanbase. Charr is there because he’s an easy fight for an old man too scared to fight Haye, and Wach is there because he’s a Pole and will do sell a lot of tickets in Germany. Neither deserves a shot, and neither has a chance. Posted August 23, 2012 7:34 amchitownfightfanWach came up late in the game, and has only even surfaced in the past 2 yrs. In those 2 yrs, vs journeymen and Clevel fringe contenders he is 6-0 with 6 KOs. In his last 3, all vs notable, albeit bottom tier top 100 fighters, he’s 3-0 3KOs. His LOC is actually BETTER than Cris Arreolas over the same course of time, and yet that is the fight we all want. ROFL. Charr………………Well, I think that has something to do with the future. I think Vitali looked at the list of healthy, undefeated prospects, still S of 30, will hope that after his KO of Rocky, that Charr will rebound and have a solid career as a future contender/potential champion who was not green, but not quite prime. Posted August 23, 2012 7:25 amalbrechtklitschko crush both any one can step up THEY WILL LOSE. all come with -0 lostes until they face mighty Klitschkos. Does not matter who you are they will loss. Posted August 23, 2012 7:03 am |
Leave a comment on
Who Has The Best (If Any) Chance In His Upcoming Fight With A Klitschko – Manuel Charr Or Mariusz Wach?