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frank

all that catch weight stuff is crap . it usally benifits the money fighter no doubt leonard pacqiua and ward were or are great fighters. how did leonard win the light heavyweight title making donny lalond come down to 168 . pacqauia catch weight fights were to his advantages . opponents took the catch weight fights for the money. chad dawson was weight drained when he faced ward . now I dont know if theoutcome would have been different . why should golovkin go to 165 to face chavez jr when glovokin has many intresting fights at legit middleweight like martinez or quilin . if chavez jr is no longer a middleweight good luck to him with ward kessler froch or even as a LH dawson. . why not a catch weight fight between wlad klitchko and ward at 170.2 a weight im sure ward would have the advantage in .or donaire and tyson fury

Posted February 8, 2013 7:46 pm 


SREDMOND

I have to agree with Tark as it pertains to 50 he is a bit of a Judas…. Floyd was in his segue into the world of boxing and friend, whatever personal differences he did not need to divulge information gathered as a result of the friendship ie finances ect, nor should he have tried to affiliate with Manny Pacquiao and undermine his friend… Anyone who trust 50 outside of PURE business absent a friendship component should count himself a FOOL…

Posted January 7, 2013 10:30 am 


SREDMOND

Floyd does not need to fight Sergio Martinez, Mayweather does not really belong at MW and thats just a fact…His BEST fighting weight is now WW, after having moved up so many divisions during his career.. Pretending that a rehydrated Martinez is the same as a WW who ballons is pure fantasy… Martinez is the TRUE MW Champion of the world and he is used to fighting in THAT weight class… Gamboa swells up a ton on fight night but if you think he is used to getting hit by TRUE WW fighters then you are SADLY mistaken. Mayweather should fight Guerrero and Canelo then look at his options he is closer to the end than the beginning by being close to 36…

Posted January 7, 2013 10:26 am 


TARK

Fifty is a jerk.. A fair weather friend.. Fifty befriended Floyd because he thought he could use him — and it wasn’t happening.. Floyd isn’t some chump like Muhammad Ali, Mike Tyson, or Evander Holyfield who you can befriend—and then con in some business investment that doesn’t make any sense.. Floyd is more like George Foreman, Oscar De La Hoya, or the K Bros, who make up their mind soley on the project and if they think it will be successful or not.. Fifty can go try to punk somebody else.

Posted January 6, 2013 7:36 pm 


Anonymous

Even Fitty ditched Mayweather. Floyd never has wanted anything to do with Manny.

Posted January 5, 2013 11:29 pm 


Boxtradamus

mikec-I never SAID that Floyd should move UP. I SAID that he should come in at 152 which is only one pound heavier than he weighed in at in his last Fight. IF Martinez weighs in at 170 on Fight night he’ll be too slow for Floyd.

Posted January 5, 2013 9:18 pm 


Boxtradamus

troybaksh- Floyd does it with technique AND SKILLS. Contrary to you thinking that every shot lands on Floyd when he’s in transition that is FALSE. Floyd transitions from Offense to Defense SEAMLESSLY. Watch the Marquez and Baldomir Fights to see what I’m talking about.

Posted January 5, 2013 9:10 pm 


TARK

Herron says…, “I can’t believe how many so called knowledgable fight fans truly beleive that Floyd intended to eventually fight Manny Pacquiao” You’re a nut case if you don’t think he did.. It was the richest and biggest fight of all time.

What were all those negotiations all about??? Floyd absolutely wanted the fight, but both Floyd and Pac were both happy to milk the publicity of their eventual meeting for a few years. They were making tons of money and more than any other athlete in the world. They really enjoyed the anticipation and attention everyone paid them.

The problem is they milked the fight until they got chicken fat on it—but if Floyd beat RG and Pac beat Marquez in their fourth fight, they were going to fight.. They still might.

Posted January 5, 2013 4:37 am 


mikec

who said getting bigger you get faster what was said is Sergio is not slow in his weight division therefor you answerd your own question if Mayweather moved up would he maintain his speed NO! analyzed the fights and dont be bias

Posted January 4, 2013 11:47 pm 


Dash

Typo – generating

Posted January 4, 2013 8:17 pm 


Dash

What’s this crap about a Floyd Sergio matchup henerating more money that Floyd Canelo? Floyd Guerrero will generate more too, Floyd is only interested in fighting Mexicans now anyway. And if he wouldn’t fight Pac what makes anyone think he’ll take on Sergio?

Posted January 4, 2013 8:16 pm 


Joseph herron

I can’t believe how many so called knowledgable fight fans truly beleive that Floyd intended to eventually fight Manny Pacquiao.

I also can’t believe that there are so many people who feel that there is no need to see Pac/Floyd any longer because JMM KO’d Manny.

Aren’t we all glad that Ali and Foreman fans didn’t throw in the towel like the fickle fight fans that we see currently? If you use the same conventional but inexperienced logic in the Ali, Foreman, and Frazier drama, there would have never been any need to see Forman vs. Ali after Foreman’s destruction of Frazier.

What’s the point, right? Styles make fights, guys!!!

I still want to see the fight…Manny versus Floyd is still the most intriguing fight that can be made in boxing.

Posted January 4, 2013 5:33 pm 


TARK

Sred says, “This would have been the biggest bout of the 21st century bar none.”

No… This would have been the biggest and richest Boxing match of ALL TIME.

Of all sad tales of mice and men, the saddest is this, “It might have been.”

Posted January 4, 2013 4:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, if it was a ONE fight upset like Hopkins ALMOST experienced when Oscar was pretty much outboxed by Sturm but got the nod then OK….. But since Pac Man beat Cotto, he has fought 5 times… That is tremendous jeopardy when a total purse of 100 to 115 mill is on the table…This fight NOT coming off is unprecedented in terms of financial magnitude and the stakes involved…Even if Pac knocks Marquez out in a rematch it will be deemed somewhat due to Marquez FINALLY getting old he will be 40….A tremendous P4P showdown has been BLOWN and pretending you let a fight like that simmer for 3 years when BOTH combatants are in their 30’s is foolhardy…. This would have been the biggest bout of the 21st century bar none.

Posted January 4, 2013 2:44 pm 


TARK

Look…. You had pro basketball players, pro football players, Barack Obama, Wladimir Klitschko, Vitali Klitschko, David Haye, John McCain, Mitt Romney, Beyonce, Mike Tyson, and Robert De Niro talking about the fight.. Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao said he wanted to see the fight when he met with Obama. Mayweather was making 87 million dollars a year and Pacquiao was making 78 million dollars a year. They were basking in the glory of the coming fight everyone wanted to see. Every time they fought it was electric.

East meets West… It was going to happen this year.

But then happenstance intervened… Lightning struck… What can you say?

Posted January 4, 2013 2:18 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, I am the biggest Mayweather fan you can find but the HARD reality is that Floyd took his sweet time setting up that bout…People had been saying for YEARS that one of these guys was going to lose… In the modern age 5 fights against QUALITY and HOF level competitors is ALOT and finally the inevitable happened somebody lost… (MANNY) this fight was about past its expiration date in late 2011 and by 2012 it was clear both guys were making money fighting everyone but eachother… Crediting Floyd with some ingenious plan is bogus, he is the guy who says “Boxing is like being a Police officer one shot can end your career”… You LOVE to say ” who thought what” when the truth is you don’t KNOW a damn thing… Fact is this bout was LONG overdue, now who cares

Posted January 4, 2013 12:41 pm 


TARK

Floyd wanted to fight Pacquiao… He wanted to fight him after whipping Guerrero and then retire. Marquez tossed a giant wrench into his plans. If you’re not interested in being the main focus of the greatest sporting event in human history you’re dead.

Then came Pacquiao v Marquez IV… But upsets happen in Boxing.

Posted January 4, 2013 12:21 pm 


tax time

punkweather, do boxing a favor and quit

Posted January 4, 2013 4:24 am 


Boxtradamus

troybaksh-You are CORRECT about Martinez though. He’ll never beat Floyd with his “LOOK MA! NO HANDS!” style.

Posted January 4, 2013 1:36 am 


Boxtradamus

troybaksh-When you’re very hittable it doesnt matter how fast your opponent IS. Thats why i didnt mention those guys you mentioned. Floyd is the BEST Defensive Fighter in the ENTIRE History of Boxing which means he’s very difficult to hit. No one slower than Mayweather will beat him. IF he ever loses he’ll be the slower guy in the Ring. I promise you that.

Posted January 4, 2013 1:33 am 


Boxtradamus

troybaksh-IF you think that Floyd is Bigger AND Faster than he was vs Corralles you may need lasik EYE Surgery. Floyd is not as Fast as he was at the lower weights and he isn’t as QUICK either.

Posted January 4, 2013 1:28 am 


TARK

Martinez has amazingly fast hands and quick feet, even though he’s 38 years old next month. He leans in on his lead foot with both hands way down, which is not the way to do it—but he’s amazingly fast at slipping punches. HIs technical skills aren’t the best but his speed is the real deal. The only guy I can compare him to is Joe Calzaghe, who had poor technical skills, leaned in on his lead foot to bait you, and was very fast, but not as fast as Martinez. JC was a brawler while Martinez is a boxer. Wilfred Benitez leaned in with his face and tried to slip everything, but quick punchers picked him off with straight shots. Martinez is has just about the fastest reflexes I’ve seen, and usually when you’re 38 you’re slowing down quite a bit. Juan Manuel Marquez said, “I’ve been boxing pro for 20 years, yes, but I put that out of my mind. I don’t think about my age. That’s negative. Negative thoughts only hurt you and never help you win.”

Posted January 4, 2013 12:44 am 


Boxtradamus

GO and watch Jones vs. Ruiz, Haye vs Valuev, and Martinez vs Chavez Jr….being BIGGER and SLOWER just help you to LOSE to the BETTER man.

Posted January 3, 2013 10:45 pm 


Boxtradamus

Have you ever heard of a guy getting BIGGER and FASTER at the same time other than a growing KID?? Grown Men don’t get bigger AND faster unless they go from the couch to working out. Martinez hasnt been on the couch. IF he weighs in at 171 he’ll be SLOWER. He’s already slower than Floyd to begin with SO getting Bigger is not going to help him. No slow Fighter is going to beat Mayweather I can tell you that right now. Martinez’s BEST bet is to drop down to 154 and start campaigning there right now and hope that he gains some SPEED.

Posted January 3, 2013 10:38 pm 


mikec

just because someone is bigger doesnt make him slower 160 is his weighin weight not his fight weight ortiz is not at 160 just say you want Mayweather to lose at any cost Let Sergio move up fight anybody at 168 theres plenty of money to be made He is not going to do it Sergio look for that send me off into that sunset money

Posted January 3, 2013 8:04 pm 


TARK

Floyd planned to fight Pacquiao all along, but the buildup was elevating ALL of their fights to the moon.. They made almost as much money for many of these other fights as they would have made fighting each other.. It was electric every time they fought because everyone was waiting with baited breath for the matchup.. Now, if Pac beat Bradley and Marquez last year everything would still be on track. Floyd is not responsible for Pacquiao getting robbed and getting KO’d.. Pacquiao had finally agreed to Floyd’s purse split and Floyd was looking like a genius for waiting so long an getting every single item he demanded.

Then came Marquez-Pacquiao IV — not the coolest thing if you’re Pac or Floyd.

Posted January 3, 2013 7:35 pm 


TARK

That’s because you’re so stupid Sred… Your brain went out with last week’s meatloaf. Leonard DID cherry-pick..I was VERY disappointed in Leonard… If you beat a man the caliber of Marvin Hagler you’re ready for the top middleweights in the world. You don’t go off to another weight division because the mandatory challenger is a really tough guy you don’t want to fight … Leonard did that.

Cus D’Amato said, “I knew Patterson didn’t matchup with Liston…just the wrong style. But there came a time when we couldn’t avoid Liston any longer. Fighting a guy who you know can beat you is the worst thing about Boxing. It’s like eating a live frog. It’s pretty grim, but you just have to eat it and get it over with.”

Posted January 3, 2013 7:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Calling Ray a Cherry Picker is foolish…. With the resume of guys he beat and when he beat them… Going 14 rounds with an unbeaten Hearns or 24 with Duran? 12 with Hagler? You sound pretty dumb Tark….

Posted January 3, 2013 6:54 pm 


SREDMOND

The Pacquiao fight is forever sullied and degraded if they ever fight assuming all things stay the same, Floyd has MORE to lose than gain… Had he defeated Pac in 2009 or 2010 it would have been the dagger in his detractors hearts.. Post Marquez even if he beats JMM people are not going to have the same respect given Mannys destruction at the hands of a guy Floyd played with… Mayweather might as well fight Guerrero, Canelo and if possible the Pac fight for the money and name but the SPECIAL battle that was on the table 2 or 3 years ago is gone forever….

Posted January 3, 2013 6:51 pm 


SREDMOND

Leonard may have lacked Floyds discipline but he sure as hell would have fought Manny Pacquiao by now… Ray faced 3 solid ATGS and a HOFER like Benitez when they were strong and dangerous… Floyd is strategic but if you wanna amp up Robert Guerrero who is a guy who fought at 130 beyond a certain point you need to get real (Hes a very good fighter)… Terry Norris seriously campaigned at 154, that was his domain, and that was a dangerous fight for the OLD past it Leonard who had taken numerous retirements… Do you really think Ray would not have fought Pac Man for 50 million dollars ESPECIALLY unbeaten in his prime? He fought Hagler coming off a layoff which was considered crazy..

Posted January 3, 2013 6:47 pm 


TARK

Sugar Ray Leonard lacked the discipline of a Floyd Mayweather Jr…and he cherry-picked. Maybe he had to but he did. Floyd will be 36 for Guerrero, but still has skills, still makes great strategic decisions, and still commands top dollar. It would work out perfectly if Pac beats JMM, Floyd beats Guerrero … and they finally meet and then retire.

I picked Norris to beat Leonard.. Norris said, “People talk about my chin but I was knocked out by one of the hardest punchers in the world. Leonard wouldn’t fight Julian Jackson in his dreams and he’s not as fast and skillful as everyone believes. I’ve been watching Leonard for 15 years and he gets hit with everything. I’m a great boxer-puncher and this is my showcase fight. I wish the fight were for 25 rounds because he wouldn’t win one round.” … People think Terry Norris was KO’d about 10 times … it was only 4 times.

Posted January 3, 2013 6:33 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Leonard was NOT on some sort of WONDERFUL winning streak he had a draw with Hearns which MANY feel was a gift which shortchanged Tommy….His career AFTER Hagler has to be viewed as a fighter who was on the way down… He was having difficult moments with guys like an OLD Duran and he was always talking about retirement…Terry Norris despite his suspect chin had fast hands and serious skills, he was YOUNG unlike the older versions of Duran and Hearns and Leonard found that out FAST when he was embarassed and dominated…His name got him the odds and people put too much stock in Jacksons KO over Norris, meanwhile Jackson was a crushing puncher who could stop anyone if he caught him…Even a somewhat drained Lalonde put Leonard down… Sugar was not so sweet anymore his prime was GONE…

Posted January 3, 2013 5:23 pm 


SREDMOND

Marquez has been a pretty healthy active fighter, whereas Leonard suffered a then potentially career ending retinal injury against Tommy Hearns… Ray had already beaten guys like Benitez, Duran, Hearns and Hagler by the time he was 31 years old whereas Marquez was just beginning to make the radar of a broader audience… You seem to forget Ray took off 3 years as a retirement…. Ray Leonards legacy has LONG been sealed by the time he was 34 whereas Marquez was still looking for his second Pacquiao fight… Their careers do NOT correlate, Marquez was not making the type of money (relatively speaking) that SRL was commanding….And to have equivalent accomplishment Marquez would have to beat Floyd,Pacquiao and another prominent fighter in the 154 pound class to have comprable accomplishment….. HUGE Marquez fan but Leonard is a testament to QUALITY over QUANTITY…

Posted January 3, 2013 5:13 pm 


TARK

When I say active… I mean in the same sense that Floyd Mayweather is “active.”

Leonard wasn’t retired as a boxer…and was open for offers of which there were plenty.

Posted January 3, 2013 4:52 pm 


TARK

Leonard’s fight with Terry Norris was NOT a tragic mistake.. It was brilliant.

Leonard was only 34—and an active fighter who was on a long winning streak..

Leonard was one of the biggest draws in Boxing.. Promoters begged to match Leonard with Nunn, McCallum, Jackson, Toney, or whoever he wanted at middleweight, the weight he had been campaigning at for years.

Leonard made a strategic decision to fight Norris at 154…because Norris showed a vulnerable chin against Julian Jackson.. Ray couldn’t tag the chin, but Ray made a ton of money without fighting a big tough middleweight like Nunn or McCallum.

Posted January 3, 2013 4:47 pm 


TARK

Marquez fought most of his career at featherweight… He’s almost 40 years old—but let’s say JMM was 31, 32, 33, or 34 like Leonard was when he was a middleweight, until Ray dropped weight to fight Norris–still fighting AROUND the middleweight division.. Let’s say Marquez knocked out Pacquiao again in a rematch.. Then because he didn’t want to fight Floyd Mayweather, Tim Bradley, Victor Ortiz, Robert Guerrero, Mike Jones, Devon Alexander, Kell Brook or other welterweights, he won a phony 154-pound title and started defending it against whoever he wanted at 147 … That is what Ray Leonard did.

Posted January 3, 2013 4:36 pm 


SREDMOND

By the time Ray fought Hagler he was a part time fighter anyway and obviously he fought 5 times in 9 years or something like that and his comeback against a prime Terry Norris was a tragic mistake… Leonard like most boxers did not know the bell had tolled and Marquez is looking like he is going to go down that path… Instead of retiring on the heels of his GREATEST victory he is likely going to get back in that ring at 40 years old trying to push the envelope…Beating Hagler was Leonards last GREAT moment in the ring after that it was suspect performances for the most part and losses…

Posted January 3, 2013 4:25 pm 


TARK

So basically what Leonard did—while Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, Julian Jackson, and James Toney were the top middleweights in the world—Leonard avoided them by pretending to be a super middleweight (168).

If Leonard wanted to fight any of those guys he would have defended the middleweight title he won from Marvin Hagler—instead of letting it be stripped and going to 168.

Posted January 3, 2013 4:21 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, that fight with Lalonde is not something of huge marquis value to Leonard anymore than Pac Man beating Margo for a title at 150 pounds (vacant 154 I believe)… He was NOT a MW and the reality is that quibbling about Toney coming in 3 pounds under for a fight is corny, you sure as hell cannot fight Jr Middle at 157 so its a catchweight but as we know Toney was a viable fighter at higher weight classes, he and Leonard were NOT the most natural competitors…Ray beat Hagler for the legit MW title which is something that cannot be taken away… No one is remembering Ray for “ducking James Toney”… Marquez just stopped Pac Man, lets see the NEXT FULL WW fighter he challenges? Its doubtful because 147 is not his best weight despite his historic win.

Posted January 3, 2013 4:18 pm 


TARK

Sred… Toney never went to 168 until AFTER Leonard retired for 6 years.. Toney weighed only 157 when he knocked out Michael Nunn (36-0) a couple months AFTER Leonard fought Terry Norris.. But BEFORE SRL fought Norris, Leonard campaigned as a phony 168-pound champion so he could avoid the top 160-pounders.. SRL won the168-pound title by beating Donny LaLonde—who didn’t even campaign at 168.. It was all a scam contrived for Leonard so he could win World Championships in two different weight classes one (1) night.. That way Leonard could avoid the top middleweights and fight whomever he wanted—posing as a 168-pound world champion who fought middleweight challengers who weighed only160—while Leonard also weighed 160.

It was a monsterous joke and scam on boxing fans … and it worked to perfection.

Posted January 3, 2013 4:08 pm 


SREDMOND

And like I said despite my absolute reverence for Marquez, Pac Man aside he NEVER faced another ATG in his prime especially moving up in weight like you proposed Leonard do against James Toney coming off 3 or 5 years out of the game…Meanwhile Leonard fought Hagler, Hearns, Benitez and Duran ALL very good or GREAT versions of these fighters…. Sugar lost alot of years due to retirement so that is a factor given an eye injury like he sustained…

Posted January 3, 2013 3:15 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, I watched that fight recently and EVERYONE knows that Manny was a jab, jab straight left hand fighter when he bashed in Barreras head and had his corner save him.. He was all speed, fury and unorthodoxy… It was not till he lost to Morales that Pacquiao began to really work on the right hand and it really came of age when he hit Oscar De La Hoya with EVERY punch known to man at 147 pounds… Learn your boxing history!

Posted January 3, 2013 3:11 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Leonards best weight was NEVER MW despite outpointing Hagler, SRL was best at 147 so get real saying he was ducking James Toney who was best at 160 and 168 is corny in the extreme stop acting like Sugar made his bones in that division… Leonard was coming off a LONG I believe 5 year layoff when he fought Hagler in a Superfight so stop acting like Ray was a longtime force at 160, the reward warranted the risk with Hagler…

Posted January 3, 2013 3:09 pm 


TARK

Sred says…, “Toney was several weight divisions above Leonard.” Toney was a middleweight—Leonard was a middleweight.. Leonard started his career at 147 and was a full bore middleweight when he whupped Marvelous Marvin Hagler.. There were several very good top ranked middleweights around at that time—guys who were better than any middleweight Hagler ever fought.. Leonard never defended the middleweight title he won from Hagler and was eventually stripped of the title. The men Leonard ducked—Michael Nunn, Mike McCallum, and Julian Jackson—WERE the 160lb champs when Leonard dropped down one division to cherry-pick Terry Norris—who was previously knocked cold by Julian Jackson so Leonard thought Norris’s chin was vulnerable … Leonard fought at middleweight or above for years—but simply refused to fight Nunn or McCallum,

Posted January 3, 2013 2:20 pm 


TARK

Sred says…, “Pacquiao blowing Barrera out of the ring using one hand” … You need to watch that fight again because Pacquaio used both hands with good form, speed, and utility. He always had a good right jab and right hook. To call him one-handed is stupid.

Posted January 3, 2013 2:10 pm 


SREDMOND

Ali took a perceived soft fight in Spinks like they all do Klits( Wach, Mormeck, Thompson, Charr) meanwhile he had spent his prime fighting Frazier 3 times, Liston 2x, Foreman, Norton 3x, Shavers (murderous puncher) and Lyle…He was too brave for his own good he should have NEVER tried to comeback against Holmes at that age after that layoff it was Kamakazee at its finest….And Pac Man aside who has Marquez fought that was on par with a prime Toney?? Who was several weight classes above Leonards best weight??? Marquez beat a Barrera who was still good but not nearly the elite fighter he was prior to Pacquiao blowing him out of the ring using one hand….

Posted January 3, 2013 1:39 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, first of all that response was NOT aimed at you secondly Ali was like MOST fighters at they get OLD they start losing… Ray Leonard did what he had to during what was around his prime and his expiration was no doubt aided by his love of coke, partying and his sometimes health induced (retina vs Hearns) layoff… Marquez staying at this level is the EXCEPTION not the rule…. Ali lost to Holmes because he got OLD just like Holmes lost to Tyson via 4th round KO when he was around the same age… Nothing special about Ali losing to an ATG when he was WELL past it coming off a two year layoff

Posted January 3, 2013 1:33 pm 


TARK

Sred… Nobody is saying beating a 38-year-old Ali was an accomplishment for Larry Holmes. That’s you twisting my words so they fit your lame arguments. Ali was a sad individual at 38 because he had taken so many head punches. He couldn’t defend. Years earlier Ali was fighting guys like Leon Spinks, who were ranked way beneath Holmes, without a thought to giving Holmes a deserved title shot. Ray Leonard, at age 34, was comprehensively beaten by Terry Norris—but if Leonard had fought some of the top middleweights of that period, such as Mike McCallum, Michael Nunn, or James Toney, he would have been stopped. Juan Manuel Marquez at nearly 40 is still on top of his game after beating Pacquiao, Barrera and other ATG fighters. JMM never ducked anyone, always maintained a steady work ethic, and is still improving his game and trying different wrinkles at 40. It’s a different philosophy than slacking off and resting on your laurels.

Posted January 3, 2013 12:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Andre Ward is the future of boxing along with guys like Donaire but he is NOT close to Floyd Mayweather Jr in terms of career achievement…. Winning the Super Six and beating Froch, Kessler and Dawson in dominant fashion while remaining undefeated have created the foundation for a GREAT career if he can continue but FMJ is the ONLY guy to go thru 5 divisions undefeated, he was a P4P fighter at the age of 22 after clinically dispatching then murderous puncher Diego Corrales and dominating everyone around…15 years later fighters have come and gone, but soon to be 36 year old Mayweather STILL sits atop the P4P heap…He just defeated 3 division future HOFer Miguel Cotto at 154 pounds (Miguels new territory)…. He toyed with the guy that fought fighter of the Decade Manny Pacquiao 4 times culminating in a BRUTAL loss for Pac Man.. Floyd will never get full credit because he makes it look easy but he is the BEST.

Posted January 3, 2013 10:14 am 


SREDMOND

Anyone trying to sell Holmes beating Ali as Larrys crowning glory simply does NOT know a DAMN thing about boxing history.. That fight was a FARCE, I am not mad at Holmes for making the money and doing what he was supposed to but Ali was just shy of 39 coming off a 2 year layoff, he was a WASHED up and basically being too prideful and reluctant to let go of past glory….Floyd Mayweather is not beating up on fighters in that condition and he himself is pushing 36….He was in his 30’s when he took on Shane Mosley who was 38 and coming off his biggest win in YEARS via KO…..

Posted January 3, 2013 10:08 am 


TARK

Once you get where Floyd and Pacquiao are a defeat doesn’t kill you… Ray Leonard got owned by Terry Norris when he was only 34, a couple years younger than Floyd will be for his next fight.. So Leonard retires for 6 years and comes back at age 40 — and gets stopped by fomer super-featherweight Macho Camacho…

Leonard looked really, really really bad in that fight.. But he still made several million, so why not??? Ali made 10 million for fighting Larry Holmes.. Holmes was embarrassed having to punch somebody who couldn’t really fight back — but the fact is Ali needed the money.. The remarkable thing is Juan Manuel Marquez will be 40 years old soon, and he’s still a damn good fighter who’s worth more than they pay him … and he has a day job as an accountant.. He said “I hate having time on my hands and not being productive.”

Posted January 3, 2013 3:34 am 


No shi Serlock

Something really exciting has not happened, Pacquiao v Mayweather, Guerrero instead, fk hell

Posted January 3, 2013 1:04 am 


TARK

troybaksh…. Ward beat some good fighters and beat 2 really good boxers in Dawson and Froch. He’s fought in one weight division. He has about 27 fights.

Floyd fought in 5 weight divisions, won about 24 world title fights, and is 43-0. You have to remember that most of his career fights are at 130 but he won 2 world titles at 154.

Posted January 3, 2013 12:47 am 


TARK

I saw the interview… Robert is confident and determined to win.. He believes he will.. Even if he doesn’t believe he can win he’s going to say he believes and that it’s all God’s plan unfolding before our eyes for him to truly humble everyone in the sport of Boxing…

I guess God is going to humble everyone but Robert Guerrero… What a convenient plan God rolled out. The only problem I have is, what does our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ have against Floyd Mayweather Jr.?

Posted January 2, 2013 11:37 pm 


Boxtradamus

What a POOR thing to say. IF you’re going to be a writer BE an Ambassador of the Sport. Stop condoning Ducking.

Posted January 2, 2013 11:07 pm 


Pants

MMA, that’s rubbish, it is just not good compared to Boxing.

Posted January 2, 2013 11:06 pm 


Joseph Herron

When the networks buying the fights are putting too much emphasis on wins and losses, he and everyone else in the sport is acting the appropriate way.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:57 pm 


Boxtradamus

No. That’s the reason that the guys that are shouldn’t be. They’re too SISSYFIED to make as much money as they could really make because they’re too worried about rep…Fifty is a Business man/Gangster from the streets and his instinct is to make the money while its HOT. He was on the right track but he let SISSIES talk him out of it. He should give Gamboa one more tune up on the same card with Broner and then make the Fight next. IF he’s reading this or IF someone that knows him is reading this take MY advice. It’s not all about being the BEST. The BEST alternative is to quickly establish yourself as an entertaining Fighter or promoter thats going to always bring the Fans BANGING Fights. If you just DO that you’ll quickly WIN the Fans over. And the FANS are the ones who pay you your Money.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:51 pm 


Patrick2

Berto is no Floyd. The Ghost would get taken apart by FMJ.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:42 pm 


Joseph Herron

Well, Boxtra…that’s why you’re not a fight promoter. Promoters protect the fighters in which they have a lot of money invested. That’s why most fight fans see a lot of one sided mismatches on Telefutura and ESPN. It ties the hands of the matchmakers.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:21 pm 


Boxtradamus

CORRECTION…Cotto from getting Big Fights..

Posted January 2, 2013 10:19 pm 


Boxtradamus

Joseph Herron-Well that’s a pretty WEAK theory. Another theory is that you go ahead and get the most bang for your buck each Fight. Gamboa will get BRUTALIZED but that didn’t stop De la Hoya or Cotton from making future Big money Fights and it won’t stop Pacquiao either. Waiting for the Fight to get Big results in lost revenue unless you’re already a Top draw. Take the Fight while its hot and then move ON to the next one. IF you want to Top Floyds career you can’t jack around…and IF you don’t want to Top Floyds career then you’re a very POOR competitor in the First place.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:17 pm 


TARK

Herron claims…, “Guerrero will frustrate Floyd throughout this fight.” …Not because Robert is so hard to hit. RG is wide open and certainly not a great or masterful defender—all of whom are terribly frustrating to fight… Not because Robert is such a sharp and clever puncher who feints you out of your jock and then rips you with hard, fast flurries from every angle. RG’s a slow and sloppy mauler who doesn’t match up particularly well against sharp punchers—who tag up Robert’s big, immobile, but durable head… Not because Robert flaunts the rules… Floyd faced Victor Ortiz. Joe Cortez grabbed Ortiz and angrily read him the riot act—just like he did to Hatton. Cortez took points from both rule busters when they fouled Floyd. You can be sure there will be a referee with the same intimidating presence—who will jump down Guerrero’s throat with both feet if he tries to pull out the Berto blueprint … What else could RG bring to frustrate Floyd? Not much.

Posted January 2, 2013 9:38 pm 


Joseph Herron

Like I stated in the article, if 50 Cent has invested more than a cool mill in his Cuban star, it makes more sense from a promotional and managerial standpoint to build that fight and get your fighter some easy paydays in 2013.

Posted January 2, 2013 8:30 pm 


Boxtradamus

Last I heard Gamboa wants to get himself a title before facing Broner. Broner called 50’s bluff and thats the Excuse that they came UP with.

Posted January 2, 2013 8:21 pm 


Joseph Herron

Whiteboyday, 50 Cent can pine for a big fight with Adrien broner all he wants. But unless Al Haymon and Golden Boy Promotions want to do business with him, the fight with AB won’t happen.

The super fight between Broner and Gamboa will be decided by how badly HBO wants it.

Posted January 2, 2013 8:18 pm 


whiteboyday

it seemed like fifty was all for his fighter Gamboa facin Broner when he was asked about it at the recent Marquez fight. Its really risky but he was actin like they were lookin at it from a fan’s perspective and that is one people would be interested in. Has anyone seen somethin different since then? Cuz if not then then the only thing that would be in the way from Gamboa’s side would b Gamboa bein scurred

Posted January 2, 2013 8:14 pm 


Joseph Herron

Floyd/Canello is already in motion. Barring an upset either way, it will happen in September.

But mark my words, Guerrero will not be an easy fight for Floyd. He’s a crafty southpaw who doesn’t have the athletic gifts of Floyd Jr. But what he lacks in natural athleticsm he more than makes up for in ring intelligence.

He’s a natural southpaw, unlike Victor Ortiz, and will take away the Michigan shell like he did against Andre Berto. He will force Floyd to use the earmuff defense and probably elect to make Floyd take the lead at times, while keeping Floyd off balance by smothering him on the inside at times as well.

Guerrero will frustrate Floyd throughout this fight. I still think Floyd’s natural athleticism, size, and speed will rule the day at the final bell, but it won’t be an easy fight and Floyd won’t look overtly impressive while beating Guerrero.

Posted January 2, 2013 8:08 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF Leonard can beat Hagler then Floyd can beat Martinez. Martinez is LESSER than Hagler and Floyd is BETTER than Leonard. So in all actuality the Fight is a MISMATCH in the favor of Floyd.

Posted January 2, 2013 8:05 pm 


whiteboyday

As a true mayweather hater i wish i could say the ghost has a good chance but I really dont see how he could beat Floyd. FMJ is just on a different level than him, its gonna be something robert has never experienced before. In the past I have given myself a false sense of optimism when lookin ahead to Mayweather fights sayin that this guy or that guy will be the one to finally stop Floyd only to end up disappointed everytime. Even though I’m anxious to see it I think its good Canelo isnt fightin Floyd next because his resume is so weak. He cant go from the likes of Alphonso Gomez and Josecito Lopez to Fmj and expect to win. If he can get one or two quality fights then its all good. and no disrespect to Gomez, youre my boy blue!

Posted January 2, 2013 8:03 pm 


Boxtradamus

Who cares if Martinez comes in over 160??? Ortiz came in over 160 TOO and still got out Boxed and knocked out. Floyd should come in at about 152 and hope that Martinez comes in at 171. The bigger and slower the BETTER. Floyd is too much for Martinez. His Rubber Duck Defense will never be successful vs. a punched who is as sharp and accurate as Floyd. The Fight wont be too exciting because Floyd will put an emphasis on not getting hit. The exchanges will be minimal….it’ll be another pot shotting clinic. Floyd by UD.

Posted January 2, 2013 7:53 pm 


mikec

If Mayweather was to fight Sergio it wouldn’t b fair to many excuses in that fight if Mayweather gets the fight at 154 Sergio would b weight drain and if Mayweather goes to 160 would b dangerous first off he wouldnt make 160 and Sergio would come in comfortablly bigger than 160. 154 is a good weight simple Mayweather isnt that comfortable at that weight despite his wins

Posted January 2, 2013 7:20 pm 


USA

Beiber v Mayweather, buy it, 3.47 million ppv buys

Posted January 2, 2013 7:04 pm 


TARK

Herron… I don’t see Floyd having a tough time with Guerrero like you do … It won’t be like the Cotto fight where Floyd takes some crackling sharp punches and loses some rounds—and Floyd-Cotto was an interesting boxing match between 2 highly skilled boxers who respected the rules.

Floyd will make certain there’s a competent and neutral referee who knows the rulebook chapter and verse.. With the right referee this fight will not degenerate into the head-knocking, wrestling, shoving brawl that characterized the Guerrero-Berto foul-fest … and that would be Guerrero’s only shot to win—with a referee who was as oblivious to fouling as Lou Moret.

Posted January 2, 2013 6:57 pm 


Boxtradamus

IF Guerrero is bold enough to try to stay on Top of Floyd he’ll get stopped.

Posted January 2, 2013 6:56 pm 


Boxtradamus

Floyd is BETTER at every facet. This is just a glorified Tune UP like the Ortiz was except the Fight was SO short Floyd didn’t even have a chance to knock the rust off. Guerrero’s Boxing IQ is MUCH higher than Ortiz’s so he should make it the full 12 rounds. IF he can WIN 2 rounds it’ll be a moral Victory and something that he can show his Grandkids. “LOOK I Out Boxed the GOAT for two rounds!”

Posted January 2, 2013 6:54 pm 


SREDMOND

Guerrero has looked complete against guys SEVERAL rungs below Floyd Mayweather beating Casamayor, Katsidis and Berto don’t prep you for Mayweather…Guerrero is not knocking anyone out and I see no avenue for him to outbox FMJ….. So whats left? He will attempt some version of what he did against Berto except he is gonna get shredded in the process…His best win at WW was Berto who is a good WW and former Champion but I see Floyd figuring him out and then breaking him down…

Posted January 2, 2013 6:34 pm 


TARK

@Herron…, I never said Trout would get the Canelo fight… I said he SHOULD get the Canelo fight… I don’t live in dreamland. I’ve called out many fights I knew would never be made—among them: Holmes-Foreman… McCallum-Hearns… McCallum-Leonard… Nunn-Leonard… Nunn-Hearns… Lewis-Bowe… Mercer-Tyson… Tua-Tyson… Bowe-Tyson… Tyson vs either Klitschko… Holyfield vs either Klitschko… Michalcewzski vs Jones, Hopkins, or Tarver… Calzaghe vs Froch, Dawson, Johnson, or Tarver… And dozens of other highly logical fights I sensed would never be made … Boxing IS a business. Too much so… The fans get lost and so does fairness. One of the reasons I don’t think Trout-Alvarez will be made. Inside Canelo camp rationalizations are in part, “What if Canelo scores a devastating KO over Trout? That might scare Floyd off the fight straight away.” Whatever happens, I don’t see Floyd signing to fight this kid… He might, but it’s doubtful.

Posted January 2, 2013 6:32 pm 


Joseph Herron

Sred, Guerrero is not a defensive genius, but he’s a complete fighter stylistically. Guerrero has never been an effective aggressor and elected to smother the faster and harder puncher because it was the right tactic to negate Berto’s strengths.

Was he forced to take punishment while smothering Berto and taking away his advantages at mid to long range. Yes, this is the factor that makes Guerrero so dangerous.

He’s a very smart and resourceful fighter who adapts well to negate his opponent’s strengths. He’s not just a one trick pony like Hatton, he can fight in many different styles. This is going to be a much tougher fight for Mayweather than his fans realize.

Posted January 2, 2013 6:05 pm 


PEEJ

Guerrero was never a champ in any weight class. He was only a titlest. When fighters beat other fighters with ease they will get ridiculed. Now I am not big on fighting mandatories because most times they haven’t earned there spot. Roy Jones used to get a lot of flack for fighting mandatories even though a lot of the fighters he beat used to be, where current or became a titlest or champ later on after Roy. So you know you have made it in boxing when all they say is you didn’t face this guy or that guy 2 weight classes above you would beat you

Posted January 2, 2013 5:27 pm 


SREDMOND

MOST of Guerreros cred at 147 comes from the Berto fight, I respect his history climbing the scales but he is about to go into the DEEP end of the pool facing Floyd… It should be fun especially if he brings the same passion as he did last outing…

Posted January 2, 2013 5:02 pm 


SREDMOND

Joseph I’m a HUGE Floyd fan, I think Guerrero has spirit but a complete fighter was not going to take that much abuse vs Berto… He showed toughness for days but he also displayed MAJOR liabilities and lack of correction ie eating those uppercuts for the duration… He is a good opponent for Floyd, I simply see the Mayweather magic simply being WAY too much for Guerrero…. Berto made the mistake of living on the ropes when his advantages should have been in the middle of the ring… FMJ is not going to let Guerrero operate in a comfort zone… Until proven otherwise I will always err on the side of Floyd Mayweather…. But in boxing ANYTHING is possible…

Posted January 2, 2013 4:54 pm 


Joseph Herron

rEd, if you’re a Floyd fan, you should be concerned with this fight. Guerrero isn’t just a guy who tries to rough you up on the inside. He’s a complete fighter, and he’s a smart fighter. He’s a southpaw with a good chin. He can use the entire ring or fight proficiently on the inside.

He’s probably the toughest fight for Floyd at 147 pounds. If Floyd wins this fight convincingly, he deserves all of the credit in the world.

Posted January 2, 2013 4:44 pm 


SREDMOND

I see a hyped up overconfident Guerrero getting possibly knocked out by Floyd Mayweather who NEVER tolerates roughhouse tactics and knows every trick in the book…Floyd deserves respect for taking on a PRIME up and comer who certainly has shown he is strong, game and well conditioned but this is about CLASS….Mayweather is several classes above Guerrero and he will NEVER have seen someone so elusive and clinical in the ring… Chest banging and Fist pumping are not gonna carry the day, besides his father wears shades in the corner he’s gonna lose LOL…

Posted January 2, 2013 4:40 pm 


Joseph Herron

This is a nuch tougher fight for Floyd Mayweather than most realize. Robert is an underrated fighter who adapts very well in the ring to most fight styles.

He’s a southpaw and a mentally and physically tough fighter. This is a fight that May should win, but it’s a trap fight for him. He won’t look very good against a fighter like Guerrero, win or lose.

I would have fought someone else if I were Mayweather. This has the potential of being a true spoiler.

And no one will give Floyd the appropriate credit he deserves for taking on a very tough four division champion like Guerrero.

Posted January 2, 2013 4:33 pm 


Boxtradamus

Martinez WILL face Floyd in the next 3 Fights and Floyd will WIN. Canelo isn’t facing Trout though. He’s allergic to facing CHAMPS. He wouldn’t even face Bundrage….People keep forgetting to mention that Guerrero is FM’s mandatory at Welter. SO Guerrero has earned his shot whether his chances are slim or not…People used to APPLAUD CHAMPS for facing their mandatories. Bit since its Floyd who is public enemy #1 they berate him for WHATEVER he does.

Posted January 2, 2013 4:25 pm 


Joseph Herron

Lol…Trak, since when does the most deserving get the big fights they truly deserve?

You’re living in dream land, brother. Look, this is a business. Canelo is one of the biggest draws in boxing and would much rather have an opponent who draw fans as well or fights in a very fan pleasing fight style. Austin Trout brings neither to the table.

The only chance he has is his advisor Al Haymon. That’s the only reason why he got the Cotto fight and that’s the only reason why hge’s being discussed right now.

This is a business, Tark. Aside from Pacquiao, how many fights make as much money as Floyd vs. Canelo? It has nothing to do with Canelo being deserving of a fight with Floyd regarding resume or record. Is he a popular fighter who puts fans in seats and gets high TV ratings in North America? That’s all any promoter cares about.

Posted January 2, 2013 4:24 pm 


SREDMOND

Trying to deny Berto as a “good win for Guerrero” is nonsense, Andre is a prime, fast fighters who despite his flaws was a Champion he had ONE loss in an upset to Ortiz in a FOTY scenario… Guerrero is a PRIME, HUNGRY 4 weight Champ who got himself in position for Floyd to defend at WW…Its gonna happen so we might as well stay tuned…

Posted January 2, 2013 4:17 pm 


SREDMOND

Martinez is NOT gonna get a fight with Mayweather he can continue fighting obscure names with Chavez Jr being the only guy with marquis value but thats where the buck stops… Canelo is in position for a once in a career shot, there is NO guarantee he will become the next Pacquiao so he will naturally look to land the Mayweather bout..The odds of a Mayweather/Canelo bout are HIGH assuming both continue to win, Floyd is only looking at bouts that bring big money and outside of Pacquiao I cannot think of a guy who has a fanbase that will bring Floyd the possible upside he wants…Cotto lost so a rematch is not gonna fly, that leaves YOUNG Canelo who Floyd will be able to comfortably outbox for 12 rounds despite his budding talent

Posted January 2, 2013 4:15 pm 


TARK

Sred… I don’t think Martinez is looking to fight Golovkin. That’s an extremely tough fight. He’s fighting an easy guy and praying he gets a shot at Canelo or Floyd at 154.

Posted January 2, 2013 3:58 pm 


TARK

The reason Canelo takes on Trout is, AT DESERVES THE SHOT.. Plain and simple.. Like Floyd is going to fight Canelo.. HA.. That’s a pipe dream.. But it would more likely happen if Cinnamon fought and beat Trout—because he hasn’t beaten a prime elite boxer … Neither has Guerrero, but some fans think Berto was good, so Floyd gets away with the matchup. I think what promoters are praying for is Pacquiao outpoints Marquez in a 5th fight, and it rejuvenates Mayweather-Pacquiao … If that all happens they will both retire after they finally meet.

Posted January 2, 2013 3:55 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, I did not mention Golovkin vs Chavez, I mentioned Martinez vs Golovkin…. Sergio has been fighting all these off the map guys he might as well fight a banger with a little buzz.

Posted January 2, 2013 3:41 pm 


Joseph Herron

If you are part of Canelo’s team, and he has a potential date with Floyd in the fall, why on earth would Canelo take on a real spoiler like Austin Trout. It absolutely makes no logical sense. It didn’t work to Miguel Cotto’s favor. Cotto is more than likely going to miss out on a big fight with Canelo Alvarez and possible rematch with Floyd because Austin thoroughly outboxed him.

Expect Canelo to fight either Alfredo Angulo or K9 Bundrage.

Posted January 2, 2013 3:21 pm 


Stinkboxer

PS – follow me on Twitter for more analysis, fight talk and general boxing fandom @stinkboxer

Posted January 2, 2013 2:13 pm 


TARK

Sred…. Golovkin vs Chavez may be a natural but Chavez’s people won’t make the fight. the odds of it happening in the next couple years are 1 in 1,000.. Yeah it could happen. Humans will probably travel to another galaxy someday as well.

Posted January 2, 2013 1:56 pm 


Stinkboxer

Agree 100%…

Posted January 2, 2013 1:52 pm 


Golden boy promotions sucks

This isn’t mma, these fighters will duck each other and fight lesser opponents. No way any of these fight happen

Posted January 2, 2013 1:37 pm 


Moonshineman

If the fans were in control, these are the fights you would be watching. They would make big money too. But promotors and some boxers, like Haye and Mayweather don’t care about the fans at all.

Posted January 2, 2013 1:27 pm 


SREDMOND

Tark, Donaire has NO shot of facing Mares these guys are respectively Golden Boy and Top Rank fighters… When is the last time a MAJOR bout with financial consequences was made between these two entities? Donaire all but called out Arum to his face, this stalemate is not ending anytime soon… If Pac/Mayweather was not made there is not a shot in the world that Mares/Donaire is going down…. Golovkin vs Martinez is WAY more natural, they are both guys in the SAME division and for the most part that is the caliber of opponent that Martinez has been fighting ie Barkers, Dzidurik and Macklin, Murray…. Martinez only BIG fight is the Martinez rematch or he will have to move up in weight which we know he is not looking to do

Posted January 2, 2013 12:14 pm 


TARK

Herron says…, “Also Tark…between you and me, Sergio Martinez has a better chance of getting the fight with Floyd Jr. than Austin Trout has in getting the Canelo fight.”

In that case Austin Trout is going to get screwed over more than one of those trout on the fishing channel… where they catch it… weigh it… measure it… photo it… hold it up for the camera… snap a tag on it… rub it up with a nice massage… and then throw it back in..

Posted January 2, 2013 11:07 am 


SREDMOND

It really kills me how Mayweather the 5 division Champion who is undefeated and has been lineal on 2 or 3 occasions, beaten countless current and former Champions needs to prove himself against Martinez who despite being terrific is NOT in his weight class and who’s bests wins are Pavlik, Paul Williams and Chavez Jr??? If Mayweather has more to prove then what does that say for the REST of the sport?? The only fight that was VERY natural and should have happened was Pacquiao but then what happened? A guy (Marquez) that Mayweather did not let win a SINGLE round or even exchange knocks Pac Man cold… Floyds in a no win position now and thats the size of it, we know he is going to face Guerrero who is a 4 weight Champ who just handily beat one of the better WW’s around for the past few years, Canelo is a talented big name at 154 and he is in the crosshairs prime fighters.. BUT it will never be enough for the detractors…

Posted January 2, 2013 11:00 am 


1-Ton

….of course, the discussion of fighting Trout is likely just posturing on the part of Canelo’s camp. Expect a different opponent.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:30 am 


1-Ton

There is an outside chance at Floyd vs Sergio. The scenario: Canelo loses to Trout on May 4, thus devaluing the potential Sept fight. Floyd is then left with the option of fighting Trout, Sergio or possibly even Pac.

Posted January 2, 2013 10:28 am 


Anonymous

To be the best you must fight the best…..we all know Sergio is nasty, so c’mon Floyd fight the best punk! You’d get smacked up chicken Floyd

Posted January 2, 2013 9:46 am 


hookoffthejab

even junior had the bieber fever ….

Posted January 2, 2013 4:08 am 


The Kingslayer

And not one of them will happen :-(

Posted January 2, 2013 3:45 am 


Aaron

The whole 50 Cent Mayweather “beef” would be awesome storyline to Gamboa-Broner.

Posted January 2, 2013 3:25 am 


Aaron

Sad….but none of these fights are happening in 2013

Posted January 2, 2013 3:24 am 


Joseph Herron

Also Tark…between you and me, Sergio Martinez has a better chance of getting the fight with Floyd Jr. than Austin Trout has in getting the Canelo fight on May 4th.

I don’t know why so many boxing websites are reporting that Austin has a good chance of getting the big fight with Canelo. It’s not true.

Posted January 2, 2013 3:00 am 


Joseph Herron

Of all of the match-ups I discuss in the article, the two that have the most realistic chance of happening are surprisingly Broner/Gamboa and Matthysse/Garcia. These two fights will happen…just not likely in 2013.

Shockingly enough, the only way Donaire/Mares ever happens is if Donaire ever leaves Top Rank or Mares ever leaves Golden Boy…unless that happens, Donaire/Mares will be another Mayweather/Pacquiao.

Posted January 2, 2013 2:56 am 


TARK

I love the matchups… But Floyd is not fighting Martinez… And Chavez is not fighting Golovkin… Who are you trying to kid? These fights are not going to be made.

Gamboa may fight Broner….but I doubt it… Donaire-Mares has the best chance to happen. Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthysse is one of those fights that are too good to be true — like one of them fighting Rios—I’ll believe it when I see it.

Posted January 2, 2013 2:07 am 


Anonymous

have you guys ever see.all the 6-7 drop off gamboa?..maybee two was really to the canvas, and he always, always standup fast and never really hurt, came on…..gamboa is a really good boxer, he cant go inside o go around outside and win, he will outboxing Broner be smart, he is not make a big mistake done for DMarco standing outfrom him and not movement, the winner off Bronner -Gamboa….will be in the top 5 P4P……….close figth

Posted January 2, 2013 2:07 am 


Boxtradamus

Elyk752-Valuev was MUCH taller and more naturally strong than Haye but it didnt matter. SKILLS is what matters not size. Chavez Jr. agrees with ME on that.

Posted January 2, 2013 2:05 am 


Boxtradamus

Da Unknown Comic- The problem with a Broner-Gamboa Fight has to do with SKILLS. Broner is just a BETTER Fighter overall…The size is no factor in that. Just ask Clottey and Margarito.

Posted January 2, 2013 1:57 am 


UJelly?

Gamboa has no place at lightweight. He’s already starting to look too swoll.
Chavez Jr would NEVER fight Golovkin… it would end very, very badly for him (and from what I’ve read, Golovkin has already done a number of Chavez Jr in the gym).

Posted January 2, 2013 1:47 am 


Elyk752

Martinez beats mayweather. he’s naturally much stronger and he’s 3 inches taller. he may not be as fast but just his frame would play a pretty large role in weighing down mayweather. gamboa doesnt get knocked out by broner but he probably loses by unanimous decision. donaire UD’s mares.

Posted January 2, 2013 1:38 am 


Da UnKnown Comic

It’s not about Gamboa getting hit too much. He gets hit, but not too much. Where is the data to support that? He gets dropped, yes. But he always gets up a d wins. The problem with a Broner fight has to do with size. Adrien walks around at like 167. Come on man. Too big. He needs to be fighting at 140 and 147 where the horses are, not 135. Step up to the Garcias and Matthesse’s and Judah’s and Alexander’s Broner. Lets see what happens then? 96-94 Ponce. I remember. Do you?

Posted January 1, 2013 11:51 pm 


Boxtradamus

Donaire beats Mares, Floyd beats Martinez, Golovkin beats Chavez Jr., and Broner beats Gamboa. Happy New Year to everyone at ESB!!

Posted January 1, 2013 11:42 pm 


whiteboyday

If they do ever fight Gamboa better not be droppin his hands and f…ing around on defense cuz he will get tagged real quick. I just want to see whos faster. I hope it happens I think Gamboa has a better shot than most people think.

Posted January 1, 2013 11:39 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

Not a Broner fan but I agree, Gamboa gets hit too often by weak opponents. Whoever he steps up against will drop him, just like Juanma got…

Posted January 1, 2013 10:55 pm 


PEEJ

Broner KO’s Gamboa in a highlight KO.

Posted January 1, 2013 9:53 pm 



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