Haye beat Valuev…who is not a great heavyweight in anybody’s estimation, even though he stood 7′ X 330 and had a record of 50-1… NV got a gift over Donald. Haye beat Valuev a more convincingly than Chagaev beat him because he staggered him. But he couldn’t finish him.. Pulev would have taken out Valuev out early.. Pulev is amazing for a heavyweight with only 17 fights.. He has a battering ram jab and a nice check hook.. I like his footwork.
I would love to see Pulev fight Haye or Wladimir.Posted January 9, 2013 8:34 pm
BEARS -Next time read a little closer. I didnt say that Valuev did anything . I SAID that Hate has beaten a CHAMP which is .more than I can say for any other HW not named Klitschko so Haye remains with the Better resume.Posted January 9, 2013 4:33 am
I agree that Pov and Pulev right now have the best resumes amongst the contenders. I do believe Haye would beat Pov, pulev would be close I think, but indeed…we will never know it seemsPosted January 9, 2013 4:19 am
If Haye’s resume at HW is terrible then everyone else’s is WORSE than terrible. Haye has beaten a CHAMP in the Division while most others have not. SO Haye is still the BEST HW available for either Klitschko.Posted January 8, 2013 10:29 pm
why wait for Vitaly, just retire now, can’t really get anywhere without no heartPosted January 8, 2013 4:03 pm
Curly q and svdc are moving in the right direction. People try to inflate hayes resume at heavyweight when in actuality its terrible. The way he ended up fighting for the wba belt was sad too. That belt was wlads for bating the real holder of that belt chagaev. That whole thing was garbage don king helped to create. In all seriousness it was a money thing and haye really never should’ve been ale to make that bout with valuev for the title. This guy wants to eartalk up haye for brating the 39 and 40 year olds (harrison, barret, ruiz) and a guy who outweighed him by blah blah. This is not a toughman contest. And valuev is not some atg heavy. He’s hardly even known in the u.s. mora of the story. We don’t know if haye could beat current contenders. He has done nothing to show he is great enough to attribute him wins without fighting. His resume is so weak he can’t stand on it alone he has to continue to use his mouth. This guy is a shmuck and so are the people talking tripe in line with what’s coming out of hayes mouth. Hayes a b*tch at the end of the day and it makes the people deffending him look like b*tches tooPosted January 8, 2013 2:35 pm
I find it interesting that some here KNOW for certain that Haye would beat every heavyweight named. If this is so, then why do fights even take place? As for me, I want to see Haye fight and defeat other heavyweights and not be credited with victories against them until he does. Sure, Haye has talent, but let’s see it on display in the ring. Until then, he’s nothing but talk, and it is getting very, very old.Posted January 8, 2013 1:32 pm
Tom, fine and respect for that, but to me this reads ‘I don’t want to be a boxer anymore really’. And probably Vitali at 40+ feels the same way, so bottom line no way the fight will happen with this mindset
As for beating Valuev. It was not very convincing and so did Chagaev, nog a huge HW either, (and in my opinion he did it more convincingly). And most people felt that Larry Donald, John Ruiz (in their first fight) and Evander Holyfield did beat Valuev as well. Only to say that beating Valuev was not that exceptional per my viewPosted January 8, 2013 12:00 pm
David is one of my best friends, and he wants to keep his faculties in tact. He makes great money from appearances, TV, his video and all around savvy and business acumen. He was undisputed Cruiser and beat a guy 100 lbs heavier than him to win the HW championship. He has a legitimate loss at HW vs the best HW in the past 20 years. Not a bad career. And he has millions to boot. He took a risky fight coming back to prove to Vitali he is worthy and stopped a guy in 5 rounds that Vitali could not. So I dont blame him.Posted January 8, 2013 11:32 am
John, I suppose that was irony, right? In any case, for me Haye is in a win win position if he remains active. Beat up some guys who are ranked high (I do think he can beat most except for WK), make decent money (especially if he were to face fellow UK guys Price or Fury) and become the mandatory challenger in the meanwhile. Then Vitali has 2 options. A) Retire while Haye is the mandatory (= do a Lewis), look like a coward and give Haye a shot at the vacant belt or b) fight Haye. Win Win for Haye. But no, he feels to good to do so…
I expect this is all a matter of reward vs. risk. Haye will make the most money fighting Vitali K, and sees him as damaged goods and, therefore, beatable. Why take tougher fights for less? I think Haye should fight more and would love to see him against some of the other heavies, but if he gets his way, it may all work out for him.Posted January 8, 2013 10:09 am
What’s so difficult to understand? He already beat the hell out of Harrison and Chisora and now he should waste his time again with 3rd rate heavyweights? He’s absolutely right to fight Vitali or retire.Posted January 8, 2013 9:49 am
Who is there that represents a tough challenge for Haye asides from the Klitschko’s? be honest with yourselves,Arreola,Wilder,Jennings,Fury,Price,Pulev….they’d all be sparked by Haye.Wilder,Jennings and Fury can’t absorb real power shots and Pulev and Price havent really had their whiskers tested yet.Pulev looks the most complete fighter,jennings is good,but just too small,Wilder is simply untested…if these contenders actually fought each other we’d have some idea who’s worthy of top ten rankings.If you were Haye,would you put yourself through a gruelling training camp to fight an opponent you are expected to beat easily? You have to remember that Haye is a blown up cruiser and as such, works much harder in his prep for a fight than a true heavyweight,in order to compensate for his disadvantages.What would beating Wilder or price or Arreola add to his reputation? People would just say,well,Arreola was a bum anyway,or Wilder/Price etc were untested and had only fought bums anyway…the real reason Haye wants to fight Vitali is simple: he wants a rematch with Wladimir.yes,he’ll make some decent cash fighting Vitali,yes he’s pretty sure he can beat Vitali and yes, it would add a chunk of kudos to haye’s legacy,but the REAL reason is Haye wants another crack at Wlad.I know all you Haye detractors like to imagine Haye as a coward with a big mouth,but only half of that is true.Haye loves to fight,but he hates to lose,as any champ should.I’d love to see a Haye/Wlad rematch…who else is Wlad gonna fight right now? There is nobody. Wlad and Haye are the number 1 and 2 at heavyweight as of this moment,disliking Haye’s behaviuor or lack of activity doesnt change that.As boxing fans we should want the best to fight the best.That’s what makes boxing exciting.Would you want to watch Arsenal play Exeter? Or Roger Federer against Andrew Castle? Then why would you want to watch Wlad vs Mormech or Vitali vs Charr?Posted January 8, 2013 6:47 am
Can’t agree more. Also be aware that Vitali has been a full time politician and part time boxer for some yrs now, I suppose that is one of the reasons he seems to go downhill
I don’t get Haye. So much potential and what has he done? A very short reign at cruiser with 2 fights for a major belt only at the end against not so stellar opposition, and 3 wins for the paper WBA belt at HW with only one being against a top 10 guy
He could have (and still can) do so much morePosted January 8, 2013 4:11 am
Haye makes it tough for the hayelords to hug his nuts does he not? How much more b*tch talk will come from this man? I can’t believe anyone ever got behind haye. This is a slap in the face to all those people.Posted January 8, 2013 3:40 am
The world must move for David Haye…
Now, there are a lot of very tough heavyweights out there—men like Pulev, Wilder, Jennings, Price, etc.. They punch very hard.. They’re very tall, mostly.. They’re very tough and can absorb hard punches.. They’re undefeated.. They’re bigger than Haye..
Vitali is 41, and obviously wants to retire and pursue his political dream of leading Ukraine into 21st Century democratic abundance — through brilliant fiscal, tax, monetary, regulatory, social, and politcal reforms that will be a model for the world to follow.
Boxing is like a dream in the distant past to Vitali, he’s so focused on his political vision.Posted January 8, 2013 3:29 am