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Moonshineman

What would Tyson or Lennox have done to this clown Fury. WHEN will we get some heavyweights?.

Posted August 27, 2012 6:17 pm 


KL

Evil G All this talk about losing the Ch5 contract was a technical smokescreen.
Watch Fury’s recent video and he explains in his own words why he didn’t take the fight.
Fury says had 60 days(or something like that) to defend his title against Price but he was 23 stones at that time and he wasn’t taking his training seriously at that time so he says he had no choice but to vacate the English title……….in other words Team Fury didn’t think he was ready or in good enough physical shape to take on Price……..like I said watch the recent interview these are Fury words not mine.
So even if the CH5 contract was not an issue……..Fury STILL would not have fought Price at that time.

Posted August 27, 2012 8:26 am 


KL

Chagaev gave Povetkin a pretty decent argument, so I don’t think he is quite as “shot” as many seem to think.
Whilst, he didn’t look great against Klitschko not many do so that shouldn’t really be a measure of how he would do against Fury……because Fury is no Klitschko.
I can certainly see Chagaev out boxing Fury in this one, let’s not forget Chagaev is a much better boxer than Chisora ever was.

Posted August 27, 2012 8:16 am 


fishkie

2nd that

Posted August 25, 2012 8:56 pm 


Carter

This is a step up for Fury, but still an opponent he can beat. At 5′ 11″ Chagaev is giving up 10″ inches in height to Fury, as well as 9 years in age. Nevertheless, Chaggy will be a valuable learning tool for young Tyson because of his impressive resume which includes: Klitchko, Ruiz, Walker, Meehan, Povetkin, Skelton, Valuev, and Sprott. Chagaev is an excellent choice by Mick Hennessey since Fury needs another 4-5 bouts before taking on big dogs like Haye, Helenius, Pulev, or Povetkin.

Posted August 25, 2012 6:19 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Tark, Wilder hasn’t called out anyone. He’s fighting punching bags and drunks. He needs to face someone in the top 200 before mentioning Fury’s name.

Posted August 25, 2012 5:29 pm 


Fight Aficionado

Yeah this is a good step up fight for Fury. Chagaev isn’t all that but he is a former strap holder and a seasoned veteran. I like the direction Fury is going even though he still ducked Price.

Posted August 25, 2012 5:27 pm 


mario

typo younger

Posted August 25, 2012 5:23 pm 


mario

Fury is the real deal, price is the one to have a bad chin not fury, and wilder is a joke, take a look at his fight against DUstin NICHOLS, it was the funniest I ever seen in my life. Besides fury is far youger than those 2. Hennessy did good job with his fighter so far.

Posted August 25, 2012 5:22 pm 


Alonzo

Shaggy gave Alpo a hard time in their fight. I remember teddies attempts at motivating Alpo, shaking a pic of his Dad in front of him screeching out “Do this for you fadda!” What a lot of bathos! Everything is melodrama these days–Atlas included.

Posted August 25, 2012 5:16 pm 


bla

If Fury really does take this I respect him immensely. In the barren HW division Chagaev is a real opponent, only Vladimir has ever put a dent in him.

Posted August 25, 2012 5:12 pm 


top hat

Well put

Posted August 25, 2012 4:49 pm 


Mayweather1

anyone?

Posted August 25, 2012 4:47 pm 


Alonzo

I love Furry, but I gotta go with Shaggy on this one. Actually I like them both. Furry is showing some (how do you English say? Knackers?) for this fight. By the way Knackers is a great term!

Posted August 25, 2012 4:44 pm 


top hat

Agreed boxsmart

Posted August 25, 2012 4:44 pm 


Mayweather1

Hi Guys does anyone have a good english speaking commentary link for Robert Stieglitz – Arthur Abraham?

Posted August 25, 2012 4:41 pm 


scottyboy

Got to love some of these comments. Chaggy may be not world beater but at 33 he certainly is not ‘old’ and in fact most HWs dont peak until their mid-thirties. Most of you ‘experts’ obviously have no idea of just what constitues ‘sick’ either. Hepatitis is very manageable using todays medicines and should offer him virtually no hinderance to fitness or strength at all. In fact most sufferers have no idea they even have it and can live with it for years undetected. Depending on which version he had and how soon they started tratment after detecting it, he may even be totally cured of it. The only reason the boxing bodies dont like boxers with it is because it is so infectious, not because it hinders a boxer’s performance in the ring. The ‘old and sick’ descriptions given out here are not even close to the mark.
As for avoiding wilder (who has beaten precisely no one at all), dont make me laugh. Chagaev has done more in his career than wilder will ever do (becoming world champ) and if fury had opted to fight wilder instead, you’d all be calling him a coward for avoiding people like chagaev, especially if it was known the fight was available. Chagaev is slap-bang in the midst of his prime as a hw and as a former world champ, is a far bigger test than wilder ever would be. Fury has had 19 pro fights and is fighting an ex-champ already (check out wlad’s record until he fought an ex-champ), there is nothing at all wrong with this choice of opponent.

Posted August 25, 2012 4:33 pm 


TARK

Haye wasn’t afraid of Chagaev.. He was afraid of the fans suffering through a dull fight against a sickly man whose health has been in question for years.. Haye wants opponents who can fight.. Chagaev gave a fair effort against Povetkin, but Povetkin showed what an inept heavyweight he is by getting beaten up by Marco Huck in a fight where Povetkin only stayed upright because of the referee’s constant intervention.. The decision was a joke.. Povetkin ducked a Wladimir fight, is fighting a string of 2nd rate challengers, and wouldn’t last 5 rounds with Haye.

Posted August 25, 2012 4:20 pm 


scottyboy

Yeah that’s right – Haye was so scared to fight chagaev that he opted to fight wlad instead. Idiot.

Posted August 25, 2012 4:13 pm 


pugfan

bum of the month tour? he is a bum!

Posted August 25, 2012 4:12 pm 


T-Bag

Tark speaks the truth. There is no risk fighting a shot and very sick man in Chagaev, plus Chaggy has no pop so he ain’t gonna be a threat to Fury’s glass jaw. They might be fooling some loyal brits by claiming this is a step up or test but the rest of us know that Chaggy is a sick man and should have retired years ago. He was shot by the time he fought Wlad. This is a nor isk fight to get a name on paper while avoiding fighters that will actually try and win and have been calling him out in price and Wilder.

Posted August 25, 2012 4:01 pm 


TARK

Instead of fighting Deontay Wilder or David Price—both of whom called Fury out in no uncertain terms—Fury wants to fight the used up Chagaev. He wants an easy and certain victory rather than an exciting and tough fight that would pull in 5 times as many fans worldwide. He said he was going to embark on a “Bum of the Month Tour” and the only lie about that is he’s not going to fight once a month.

Posted August 25, 2012 3:49 pm 


T-Bag

if you beleive shot old sick Chaggy is a top 10 fighter I have swamp land in florida you might be interested in purchasing. this is a no risk fight, chaggy cannot punch so team Fury chose wisely knowing his glass jaw is safe in this one. Price would flatten him. I’d pick Wilder over him too cause even though Wilder also has a glass jaw he can punch so when 2 guys with glass jaws fight you pick the puncher and more aggressive fighter which is wilder.

Posted August 25, 2012 3:25 pm 


wes

fury only win this if they fight in england. otherwise he will lose.

Posted August 25, 2012 3:22 pm 


dwc

Very good fight for Fury who is looking better as time goes on.I think Fury is really getting serious at this point and as a young hvwt. this is good for the sport.If he can keep his head on straight he will become a major player prehapes belt holder in a couple of years.Lots of top fighters who are near 30 or over are doing far less then Fury contenders today fight nobodies then look for a title shot at 32.Therfore Fury should get a fair amount of respect.

Posted August 25, 2012 3:16 pm 


Box Smart

T-Bag your a fool Chagaev is top ten in the world, Price and Wilder are unproven if Fury beats them both he won’t get any credit cos all the Fury haters will make more excuses and say Price and Wilder were exposed as bums it’s a lose lose situation, at least if Fury beats Chagaev he will of proven he’s worthy of top ten status and it will put him closer to a tile shot

Posted August 25, 2012 3:04 pm 


T-Bag

You’d rather him fight a shot sick old man? I’d much rather see him vs someone like Price or Wilder. Fury’s got glass jaw that’s why he’s fighting these shot fighters over and over. Price and Wilder haven’t fought anyone either which is why a fight between either of those guys and Fury would be interesting…..gotta love these biased brit fools who’d rather see Fury fight a sick man who should have retired 3 years ago over a young huingry fighter.

Posted August 25, 2012 2:54 pm 


Marilyn13

Mix, was that the same Belfast taxi driver that beat Price’s next opponent…?

Posted August 25, 2012 2:42 pm 


Mark Rudd

This is the kind of matchup we used to see in the heavyweight division. Young guy on his way up gets tested by an older accomplished fighter trying to get back to the top.
Fury either takes a big step up or gets knocked back a notch. Chagaev either becomes a contender again or gets relegated to gatekeeper status. Simply put, it’s Fury actually going up against a guy with proven world class skills.
Should Fury dominate Chagaev, he will have looked better against him than did Povetkin. The young heavyweights today are looking for two targets, Alexander Povetkin and the Klitchko’s retirement.
Fury would be an absolute fool to fight Price now when he can fight him for so much more later. If you want to see some weak records, take a look at who Deontay Wilder and Seth Mitchell are taking on.

Posted August 25, 2012 2:41 pm 


T-Bag

Chagaev is shot!! he’s been shot for 2 years now…. he is not what he used to be and he’s a sick man that shouldn’t even be licensed. Don’t let team Fury pull the wool over your eyes here. Sure Chaggy’s a good name but so is Shane Mosley, Evander Holyfield, Jose Luis Castillo…..doesn’t mean we should give props to youngins for whupping ont he once great old men. This is nothing more than a paper win and a way to avoid the tough young guns that will actually put up a fight like Price and Wilder who have both been calling him out. It’s way to duck and say “hey we didn’t duck we’re facing the better fighter as he was a world champ”. Wouyld much rather see Fury vs Price or Wilder.

Posted August 25, 2012 2:22 pm 


VOK

This is an excellent test for British ringside judges. They’ll need to be at their Olympic best to hold that 0 intact. But somehow I believe in them.

Posted August 25, 2012 1:45 pm 


scottyboy

Wow, this is a good test for fury. He has had his criticism for opponent choice in the past but this is a calculated risk. Chagaev cant punch his way out of a wet paper bag (his last unheard of opponent aside, he hasnt stopped anyone since 2006) so its risk-free for fury, as far as being stopped is concerned. He still has the chance of being outpointed but if fury can keep in shape and turn out the kind of performance that he beat chisora with (crisp and stiff jabs at distance, smothering inside work mixed with short hooks/uppercuts) he wins this easy and gets a respectable (for this hw era anyway) name on his record. The fact that chagaev would barely scratch the top ten of a decent era wont matter to fury who should on paper, breeze this and get his first ex-champ on his record. I like this fight for fury.

Posted August 25, 2012 1:11 pm 


emren

dont get too excited! chagaev may fought tall guys but a wlad type of guy would easily destroy him like wladimir did. and i think fury would whoop him even faster then wladimir did

Posted August 25, 2012 12:52 pm 


KOrnerman

Fury will use his jab to keep him away and out of the range of the hepatitis.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:52 pm 


Derek

Wow, this really is a step up. Chagaev isn’t going to be intimidated by Fury’s size, he’s been in the ring with Valuev and Wlad. I don’t think anyone can criticize Fury for who he’s fought, especially if this fight happens. Also this is kind of Chagaev’s last stand to be considered one of the top heavyweights. Only Wlad and Povetkin have beaten him, can Fury?

Posted August 25, 2012 12:49 pm 


Gonzo The Dragonborn

I have no doubts Chagaev would beat the current crop of American prospects like Wilder, Mitchell etc. I give him a good chance of beating Fury too. He’s always been an excellent technician who knows how to set things up and he has a fantastic chin (unquestionably one of the best in the division). He came in really heavy for his last fight but I thought he looked pretty good and the extra weight seemed to have increased his punching power too. I’ve always thought Fury had bags of natural talent for such a big man, but I never thought he’d reach his potential due to him not being willing to put the hard work in to fulfil his potential. That said, lately he seems to have knuckled down and started doing that. He has the size, speed and boxing ability but I think he needs to lift some weights to increase his strength and punching power. A bit more power would do him wonders IMO.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:48 pm 


peet cassidy

I can see him knocking Fury out.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:45 pm 


Puglife

Good matchup. No reason to rush into the match with Price. Give ‘em both another year to develop and let the fight marinate. I figure Chagaev’s best days are behind him and Fury should take this by UD.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:45 pm 


The Kingslayer

Why would they ? Fury still vacated his title rather than defend it against Price, he flat out ducked him.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:42 pm 


The Kingslayer

If Fury takes on Chageav next he’ll earn a little of my respect. He still ducked Price though.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:41 pm 


Tony1244

Great fight for Fury. He’s only 23 maybe 24, and moving up very fast.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:28 pm 


Bruce

We can look forward to a good fight here. Maybe Seth Mitchell could fight the winner. I was going to mention the name David Haye but I forgot: he is only interested in title fights.

Posted August 25, 2012 12:12 pm 


Box Smart

Pete, Tyson is improving all the time he will be a different animal in 4 more fights when he’s 23-0 he will be ready for anyone

Posted August 25, 2012 11:51 am 


Pete

I’d probably go for Tyson on points. Then his biggest test will come in March/april, as Adamek has been rumoured to be matched against Tyson. I could see that fight going either way. But, Fury doesn’t stand a cat in hell’s chance against either Klitschko. Fury is just too predictable. He might jab well yes, but the calibre of fighters he has fought against (Pajkic, Maddalone, Rogan) tells you everything. Over-rated.

Posted August 25, 2012 11:40 am 


huckster

cool

Posted August 25, 2012 11:39 am 


Lenin

Good fight! Better opponent than Fraudley Harrison for sure!

Posted August 25, 2012 11:28 am 


Box Smart

Now I think all the David Price Nut huggers will go quiet now hahaha

Posted August 25, 2012 11:08 am 


Box Smart

Great test Chagaev is in the top 10 of Ring magazine I think he’s at number 8 so if big Tyson wins it will prove to everyone he’s top 10, Fury to win 9th rond tko

Posted August 25, 2012 11:03 am 


knowall

WOW Cant wait for this, cracking fight

Posted August 25, 2012 10:59 am 


evil G

Mix – it’s common knowledge that if he’d accepted the Price fight he’d have to bail on his lucrative Ch5 contract (win or lose). I’m far from the biggest Tyson Fury fan but you can’t expect the man to make that bad a business decision. Price would K.O him without a doubt but I don’t believe for a second that Tyson Fury thinks that he wouldn’t win.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:49 am 


Mo-Box

Chaggy certainly isn’t a walkover. He’s a solid B/B+ fighter when he comes to fight – he doesn’t have any brutal power or one punch KO ability but he’s an excellent tactical game player – he beat Valuev at his short peak when everybody said Valuev was unbeatable. So far I belive Fury isn’t anything special but if Fury really beats Chaggy, I’ll certainly give him his props. But if Chaggy comes in like he did agains Valuev, then I’d say it’s 55/45 fight favoring Chaggy since he’s been in the ring with top dogs that Fury hasn’t.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:47 am 


Haimat

Dangerous fight if the Chagaev that shows up is even close to his prime. Chagaev enjoys fighting tall opponents.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:32 am 


Mix

Tyson Fury showed his true colours when he chose to fight a Belfast taxi driver for the lowly Irish H/W title, rather then defend his well earned British & Commonwealth championships against a genuine challenger in David Price. “No British Boxer should fight for a World title, before winning a Lonsdale belt out-right”!

Posted August 25, 2012 10:27 am 


Ruslan Pateev

Fury will beat Chagaev

Posted August 25, 2012 10:21 am 


Ganger

This is a very dangerous fight for Fury so early in his pro run. Pros to Tyson for taking on so dangerous competition. He already has the best resume of the contenders. Tyson could easily lose to Ruslan but it will be a nice test for him. Looking forward to this fight. Now that Ruslan is his own boss he will get more fights, so he will be sharp November come.

Posted August 25, 2012 9:56 am 



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