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Hidalgo

My money says Chavez won’t make weight if he’s held to strict drug/PED testing criteria. The guy takes diuretics and other crap to reduce his weight. He’s too big to be legitimately weighing in around 160 then coming into the ring, on a regular basis at 180 or more. I don’t deny Chavez’s talent and I don’t think Martinez is going to find a big enough hole in his defense–or offense–to stop him. But Chavez, IMO, has been playing with a rigged deck. It’s time to call him out, make him legit. I bet he can’t make weight if he can’t cheat.

Posted August 27, 2012 8:59 pm 


Anonymous

This is funny. The author is actually looking beyond Martinez??? :lol:

Posted August 27, 2012 4:25 pm 


te tumbo

“Martinez unlike Cheater Chavez has never been busted for anything”? that’s Lance Armstrong’s defense(?) as well but that still didn’t prevent the USADA from banning him from the sport and stripping him of all his Tour de France titles. anyway, trying to spin Jr. boiling himself down to 160lbs as an advantage for Jr. is patently absurd and exposes the bitter bias of some fans. Btw, IF Chavez Jr’s. fanbase is exclusively Mexican, then that’s because the rest can’t bring themselves to acknowledge the success of aNother Mexican fighter . . . at least not until they are removed as a threat by “losing” v. a more popular non-Mexican fighter. otherwise, the promotional hype and protection enjoyed by the likes of Fredo, Williams, Pacquiao*, and Judah is something that Chavez Jr. has never benefited from. particularly when he’s predicted to lose virtually every matchup v. a live opponent. so Jr. is not the most popular contender but sweeping 160lbs of all credible comp makes him a legitimate contender for Martinez’s title.

Posted August 27, 2012 2:15 pm 


te tumbo

making 160lbs has compromised Chavez Jr’s effectiveness. hard to believe that 6’ Jr. started out as a 140lbr(?!?). anyway, Chavez Jr. isn’t doing anything that the 6’3” Williams wasn’t doing for YeeearS to the general acclaim and overrating of “expert” and pedestrian boxing fans. Btw, as long as the ring is the same size as the ring for Martinez’s fights v. Williams, Chavez Jr. won’t experience any more difficulty finding, exchanging with, and even Decking Martinez just like the overrated, underpowered Williams did. i’m anticipating a great scrap with Martinez becoming uncomfortably reacquainted with the unrelenting Heat of a Mexican kitchen. Chavez Jr. is All-In for this matchup. based on recent comments, Martinez is all wrapped-up in his own head for this matchup. the closer we get to September 15, the more i like Jr’s. chances to pull-off the upset v. Martinez. at which point, he has swept the 160lb division of credible competition and 168lbs awaits. nothing soft about the comp at 168lbs and matchups v. Pavlik, Abraham, Bute, or even Froch would be eagerly-anticipated mini-showdowns. don’t think that Chavez Jr. has what it takes to dethrone the “SOG” though but I don’t doubt that just as he made his way to Martinez’s threshold, he’ll attempt the same v. Ward.

Posted August 27, 2012 1:46 pm 


MP

Good call for Chavez to move up to Super-Middle. However, the O will go when competing with the likes of Froch, Ward, Sturm & so on. We all know Chavez has been over protected in the match-making but this may prove his downfall when dealing with the super-middles whom have all shown what they made of in the trenches. Let’s not get excited just yet as the small matter Sergio Martinez may have a say in the matter!

Posted August 27, 2012 1:31 pm 


HerbTee

But Junior hasn’t been in deep waters yet in a 12 round fight with an opponent of Maravilla’s caliber. So who can predict how well Junior will survive? My guess is, Maravilla fights best in the championship rounds while Junior is practically untested there against opponents he couldn’t bully or muscle around due to his larger weights on fight night.

Posted August 27, 2012 12:30 am 


TARK

Your headline, “Chavez Jr. will have run out of challenges at 160 lbs if he gets past Sergio Martinez” doesn’t make any sense.. Martinez is Julio’s FIRST challenge at 160.. It’s the FIRST challenge he’s ever run into because he’s been fighting super weak opponents.. But Julio getting past Martinez??? … Won’t happen.

Posted August 26, 2012 7:21 pm 


B Red

Sergio will win by late stoppage or UD

Posted August 26, 2012 6:13 pm 


The Mad Scientist

If Chavez jr. can withstand Martinez best punches with in the first 3 rounds without flinching Maravilla is in for a long night..we might’ve seen the best of Sergio already while Chavez is still reaching his peak so Im expecting an even better version of Junior come fight time than the one we saw against Andy Lee..War Chavez!

Posted August 26, 2012 5:12 pm 


ozzy

so do I :mrgreen:

Posted August 26, 2012 5:07 pm 


christov

Mistitled article,as somehave alluded to already.Sturm,Pirog and Golovkin will test his whiskers….if he moves up to SMW Chav will get exposed.He’s a decent fighter,but he’s got where he has by using a big size advantage…i don’t need to spell out how he does this,but it’s wrong.martinez is clocking on in years and that’s what Chav’s team are banking on,that their boy’s youth,energy and unnatural size advantage will tip the scales on an ageing Martinez.Let’s face it,martinez didn’t look that great beating Barker or macklin…but he’s probably still too good for Chavez….Martinez to slice n dice Chav.Interesting fight as we don’t really know how good Chav is yet…Martinez could blow him in 3 or take it to the wire…i think Chav’s team have underestimated where martinez is on the slide…he’s not that far gone…

Posted August 26, 2012 2:21 pm 


Patrick2

As for his fight with Martinez, I think Sergio will stick and move all night — keeping Jr off balance and him eating pot shots all night long. Sergio wins a fairly close — 116-112 — decision.

Posted August 26, 2012 11:22 am 


Patrick2

Jr. has developed into a very good brawler/boxer. However, I think much of his effectiveness is his size advantage over his opponents. Move Jr up a division or two, to 168 or 175, and suddenly Jr will find himself in with guys who can not only take his punches, but, obviously, punch back with shots that Jr will have a MUCH harder time absorbing — and I think this will be his undoing. IF, and that’s a big if, he gets the win against Martinez, then moves up, he’ll be brimming with confidence and one of those super middle weights or light heavies will welcome him to the bigger-boy division and deck him with a big shot.

Posted August 26, 2012 11:18 am 


Eugthehuge

You’re wrong in several levels. You have issues..

Posted August 26, 2012 10:14 am 


Eugthehuge

That is a big “IF”. I see a very difficult first half of the fight where JC will be constantly in danger of getting KTFO. If he makes it to round 5 or 6 things might, just might, turn to his favor. Martinez knows how to fight from a distance (he has very long arms), how to stay safe and frustrate his opponent. JC should not rely on his chin against this guy; if he gets hit to the head as many times as he was against Andy Lee, he will not survive. Nonetheless, I go with the younger, stronger Mexican fighter on this one. JC by split decision.

Posted August 26, 2012 10:10 am 


Hidalgo

I just have regular sex with my wife. :smile:

Posted August 26, 2012 9:43 am 


Hidalgo

“Chavez Jr. will have run out of challenges at 160 lbs. if he gets past Sergio Martinez.” No wonder–he fights at 180 lbs. The man is no middleweight. Someone really needs to make him take the required drugs tests. And watch him closley!

Posted August 26, 2012 9:42 am 


skinnysteve

“maravilla” will run he will run like a coyote

Posted August 26, 2012 5:58 am 


The Mad Scientist

I don’t know if the face-off with Max Kellerman was staged or not but they (Martinez/Chavez Jr.) seem to be hyping it up pretty good..it looks like Sergio is trying to sike Junior out but the kid is not going for it..I like the way Chavez for being still really young he knew how to reply to all of Martinez mental games during the interview..for minute there Maravilla looked like he was losing his cool when the kid was dearing him to try and knock him out the night of the fight by pointing at his chin and raising his eye browse at him..Lol! Chavez Jr. is your typical Sinaloense from Mexico who has a smart ass reply/remark tord anybody who gets into a war of words with them, they don’t back down because they say what they feel at the moment without thinking about even if they have to get vulgar..Lol. War Chavez!

Posted August 26, 2012 5:23 am 


alex

What do roids do for you?

Posted August 26, 2012 4:14 am 


alex

The pressure that Chavez applies will be the difference. If you have ever boxed. Pressure drains your stamina. I don’t think maravilla can ko Chavez. Strong chin. But if it goes the distance. The longer it goes, the more favor Chavez will get.. if… He doesn’t get kod early because any thing is possible.

Posted August 26, 2012 4:10 am 


alex

I agree. Like he said. He’s the new Julio Cesar chavez

Posted August 26, 2012 4:06 am 


alex

Would you face somebody when you know you are not quite ready?

Posted August 26, 2012 4:02 am 


Pete

I think the winner of Geale and Sturm will have a say who is the best in the middleweight division. I think Geale can cause the upset.

Posted August 26, 2012 2:58 am 


pugfan

Martineze wilted in the middle rounds against Pavlik because of Kelly’s constant pressure,however Kelly just did not through enough punches. Chavez will in my opinion.

Posted August 26, 2012 12:33 am 


Dave

“but none of them are really well known in the United States”, Well how about we give the article it’s proper title then; “If Chavez beats Martinez he’ll have run out of challengers that Americans have heard of” For a guy that’s just spent 3 years avoiding his mandatory I think it’s a bit premature to be claiming to have cleaned out a division.

Posted August 25, 2012 11:51 pm 


T22

No questions on
Martinez as i still think hes not as good as he was 4 years ago. By the way im 42 and run a better fell running marathon than when i was 28 and im not on anything either. Course experience has shown me when to relax and when to turn on the power. Also i have a little more drive these days.

Posted August 25, 2012 11:20 pm 


Murdoc

Who writes this crap? for one Chavez is controlled by Arum, who carefully selects opponents
he avoided Martinez for 2 years while wearing the very same belt no one beat Martinez for except
office politics. third Chavez is not some once in a lifetime talent, he’s not an elite fighter there
is nothing to marvel over him. Just another media manufactured fighter with a last name and huge following.
He couldn’t beat half the cab drivers and factory workers his father beat. Martinez has k.o.’d the last 3 or 4 young guys with winning records, and these guys were not just there for a paycheck..!

Posted August 25, 2012 11:13 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie…

Finally, somebody has the beat.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:33 pm 


LAREDOART

One of the key things that JR has to do is hit the body and then clinch, dont let Sergio settle on his rythem. Sergio will be in better condition for the fight, and thats where I think JR should try to hit the body to get Sergio out rythem and out of balance, then by clinching and putting his weight o Sergio then he can make Sergio carry his weight, walk Sergo to the ropes and then work in the inside, thats the only way I can see JR getting Sergio frustated and make him spend more energy and taking his rythem and conbinations away.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:28 pm 


Fate1

If Chavez wins… That is a big if. I just feel Chavez jr. Will be to slow to deal with Martinez . Everyone has a punchers chance but Chavez hasnt actually koed someone with one punch. If the fight is in the center of the ring Martinez will slice and dice his ass all 12 rds. My some miracle Chavez upsets Martinez I don’t see Chavez going up to super middle weight immediately. He will milk his victory as long as he can. Believe me there are plenty of challenges in the middle weight division for Chavez.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:17 pm 


LAREDOART

In todays world any athlete from any sport can be juice, the point of fighting is to see who has the better skills, stamina and determination. We can all say that JR this and JR that, but the fact remains that he still has his strenghts, and therefore anything can happen. I just hope for a great fight and I think JR will have some moments in the fight, but his going to go through Sergios jab, if JR wants to win, he needs to KO Sergio and thats not easy to do.

Posted August 25, 2012 10:13 pm 


Exiled Yank

Any chance he’ll actually take a piss test this time?

Posted August 25, 2012 9:13 pm 


Exiled Yank

He needs to move his big ass up a division or two anyhow.

Posted August 25, 2012 9:11 pm 


Miatesvallenverga

Chavez will ko Martinez and he’ll ko Andre Ward just remember my words

Posted August 25, 2012 8:52 pm 


matthews

And a 37 year old who is still fast and mobile dont raise questions either huh, :roll:

Posted August 25, 2012 8:45 pm 


Fresh Lemon Khan

I’M expecting vagina lips Martinez surrender himself & ready to suck jr in 12.

Posted August 25, 2012 8:09 pm 


Dara

I listened to Andy Lee on Irish radio today. He says he knew Chav wud be on the juice but he had to take the title fight. He said at the weigh in Chav could barley lift his head up and looked so gaunt. His ears looked to big for his head. Then less than 24 hours later he comes in 23pds heavier. Only a spastic would think this guy is clean

Posted August 25, 2012 8:07 pm 


The Kingslayer

Erm obiously this writer doesn’t pay attention because there’s still the Sturm vs. Geale winner and Golovkin.

Posted August 25, 2012 8:05 pm 


Dara

Chavez is 100% on juice

Posted August 25, 2012 8:03 pm 


Dara

Druggie cheat

Posted August 25, 2012 8:02 pm 


MR.BILLXXXHARCOREISAVIRGIN

Martiez is the Undisputed Champ…JCCJr’s “Title” means nothing…Martinez in 7

Posted August 25, 2012 7:54 pm 


Sam b

Jr will only go to 168 because he cant make 160! Gees, the guy comes in the ring@180! Skills prevail, Martinez was still 175 @ the 30 day weigh in, he’s not exactly small at the weight!
:lol:

Posted August 25, 2012 7:44 pm 


prof konje

I agree with the author. Chavez will stay at 160 but come into the fight at 180+ to enjoy the weight advantage. Disgraceful. Cowardly. But he must get past Martinez who is THE REAL middle weight champ.

Posted August 25, 2012 7:26 pm 


Cheese Cake

Answer to the title is NO.
Golovkin, Sturm, Pirog, Geale…

Then maybe…

Posted August 25, 2012 7:01 pm 


skinnysteve

chavez looked to be about the same size vs andy lee “maravilla” is an undersized middleweight and will be picking shreds on canvas out of his teeth vs chavez jr

Posted August 25, 2012 6:34 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie…

That’s a BIG IF.

Posted August 25, 2012 6:20 pm 


alex

Sergio will wipe the floor with this steroided freak. And there are plenty of decent fights left at middleweight for Sergio after he defends his ring magazine championship against this phony.

Posted August 25, 2012 6:08 pm 



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