AA would be wise to do a fight vs Sturm instead of the other elite guys.
He first has to get past Geale. Do not underestimate Geale. Sturms arogance in looking past this fight allready may be his undoing.Posted August 26, 2012 8:19 pm
We have to give Sturm a bit of credit for being around for so long however he is not at the top of the middleweights anymore. A fight with Abraham would give him a great end to his career with the possibility of making him a legend in germany. I hope Sturm chooses this path as if he ends up fighting Golovkin, Martinez, or even Chavez I think he’ll have a painful and possibly horizontal end to his career.Posted August 26, 2012 4:54 pm
I thought the fight could have gone either way, and I accually have to agree on board with your scoring, only that I gave Stieglizt the 10th, and would have him winning 7-5. However, I can’t complain that Abraham won. The seventh through the tenth were very close rounds and could have gone either way. I am sure that these are the rounds that were the difference in the fight, as I am sure two of the judges who scored it 8-4, had Abe winning three of those, the other judge from the US had it probably split down the middle. I disagree with your analysis though on Sturm. I think 5 yrs ago Abraham would have probably beaten Sturm, but I don’t think so today. The question on Sturm I suppose is, will he be as weak as Abraham is at the Super middle weight division? Also, before Abraham could always rely on his power. While he did show some boxing skill in his victory, that he could not make a statement by putting away Stieglitz, and the fact that many feel this fight could have gone either way, does not bode well for Abraham. As for Sturm against the elite fighters, I would agree with you on three of the four. The one that I think Sturm could beat is Chavez. Look at their respective performances against Sebastian Zbik. Chavez was accually outlanded by Zbik in 10 of the 12 rounds, and can be thankful that Zbik can’t punch. This fight was in LA, had it been held in Germany, he most certainly would not have won. Of course I don’t think such a fight will ever happen. WHy, of course, after the robbery that Sturm suffered in the US against Oscar, with Las Vegas judges, and I am sure the reluctance of Chavez to go fight in Germany, don’t hold your breath for such a fight.Posted August 26, 2012 4:07 pm
It’s made sense for years but Sturm was too scared to accept the two offers he received.Posted August 26, 2012 3:34 pm
Sturm is mediocrity incarnate, and boring to watch as well. Abraham v Pavlik, Kessler or JCCJr. would be a much more interesting fight.Posted August 26, 2012 12:59 pm
Abraham vs. Sturm is a mixed bag between two fighters who are really not elite fighters and who are really past their prime. I think you will see a lot of holding.Posted August 26, 2012 12:25 pm
I want that fight… the last time I saw Sturm losing was against Javier EL LINCE Castillejo and by TKO…. Abraham – Sturm would be a great fight….Posted August 26, 2012 11:17 am
the elite at 160 is Martinez, Pirog and Golovkin and not chavez.
Abraham should try to go back to 160 and i think he could beat Chavez, Gale and SturmPosted August 26, 2012 11:07 am
Abraham’s a banger with legitimate power. But for those of us who also like the “sweet science” Sturm is one of the most under rated boxers out there. He’s easily on par with the two other outstanding boxers: Adrien Broner and “Tommy-gun” Oosthuizen. Sturm-Abraham would be a lot of fun to watch.Posted August 26, 2012 10:54 am
I just saw the fight. And my first thought is that I believe that Arthur Abraham is good for boxing. He has not been able to do real damage at the elite level — but he does have power and power is always good for boxing. Having said that, I think this was a wasted opportunity for Abraham. I scored the fight a draw. I gave Abraham rounds 1, 4,5,6, 10, and 11. I have Steiglitz 2,3,7,8, 9, and 12. Even fight. 6 rounds each. Abraham did some good things that we have not seen before. Abraham is usually a round-house puncher with really wide shots. In this fight, he did a great job mixing up round-house rights and lefts with strong, hard straight 1-2 combinations right up the middle. These punches hurt Steiglitz particularly in rounds 4,5,6. Abraham also showed more movement. Abraham normally goes to the ear-muffs keeping his hand up high as his defense. In this fight, Abraham showed more head movement, more ducking and dodging, and more lateral movement. He footwork was good and he moved away from the punches. Abraham also did a few things in round 1 we have never seen before including double jab to push back his opponent and jabs to the body. It was overall a better boxing performance from Abraham who has a history of holding his hands up high, waiting for the right moment, and then throwing a few bombs. Having said that, we saw a lot of the old Abraham — and this the wasted opportunity. Abraham had Steiglitz hurt in rounds 4,5,6 and he had chance to end the fight spectacularly. But his conditioning was not at the elite level. He did not throw enough jabs to the body against Steiglitz. He did not set-up traps going head-body, head body. He did not use the double jab enough to push Steiglitz back. As a result, I thought Steiglitz showed heart and guts and came back strong in 7, 8, and 9. I think Steiglitz is like Kessler but with less reach, less speed, less power. It could have been a spectacular performance from Abraham taking out Steiglitz and it could have and should have happened in rounds 7-8. But it was a wasted opportunity and I don’t see how Abraham versus any of the really elite fighters at 168 would be any different. Abraham vs. Sturm is a mixed bag. 5 years ago, I would have said Sturm would win that fight easily with more speed, more stamina, more boxing technique, and better combinations. Today, I think Sturm has slowed down and fight mediocre at best againt mediocre competition. But I don’t think either Abraham or Sturm can fight competitively against elite fighters at 160 (Martinez, Chavez) or 168 (Ward, Froch).Posted August 26, 2012 10:39 am
Kessler would sink brave, but overpowered Abraham in a fight. But it would definitely be a goow battle to watch.Posted August 26, 2012 10:30 am
Sturm has to fight Golovkin firstPosted August 26, 2012 9:28 am
good fight but I rather see abraham against kessler, BOMBS AWAY in that onePosted August 26, 2012 9:28 am