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SREDMOND

Hey if Ward is boring tell all the exciting fighters at 168 to knock him out?? They said the SAME thing about Mayweather and he just kept winning and winning….Ward just knocked Dawson out and ran him around the ring till he QUIT…. SOG is giving them all HELL…

Posted February 6, 2013 4:16 pm 


SREDMOND

The ONLY fight of Wards where butts were an issue was the Kessler fight and they were deemed unintentional…It happens in boxing, Marquez and Pacquiao have butted eachother about 20 times… As for being a GOOD infighter and stifling your opponents attack that is called BOXING… Kessler had SOOOOOOO much experience when he fought Ward he should have been able to handle him in the ring…

Posted February 6, 2013 3:17 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

By home cooking I am referring to the way he has been able to get away with headbutts and all the other bs he lays out in the ring. Boring…

Posted February 6, 2013 2:06 pm 


SREDMOND

Kessler and Froch are seasoned fighters who have NO other tactics, neither man is a monument to craft and their attack is pretty standard… They can watch film until Jesus returns and Ward would figure them out and dismantle them in no time flat…He is an ELITE fighter whereas Froch and Kessler are just very good fighters…

Posted February 6, 2013 1:28 pm 


SREDMOND

Homecooking is reserved for guys like Helenius who CLEARLY lost a fight, not for Ward who dominated two fighters in the US one of whom he did NOT even fight in Oakland (Froch)

Posted February 6, 2013 1:26 pm 


SREDMOND

Plenty of fans care for Ward and the reality is that caring or NOT Ward and Kessler cannot and did not beat him…. His persona has him getting jobs on HBO announcing and building up a presence it took Mayweather time to make serious money but unlike the guys he is beating at SMW Ward keeps WINNING and convincingly defeating the BEST in dominant fashion…

Posted February 6, 2013 1:25 pm 


It’s Me, Ernie

I wonder why most fans don’t really care for Ward? Take away his home cooking, headbutts and lack of any personality at all and what are you left with?

Posted February 6, 2013 12:54 pm 


MK

It is not a question of whether or not Kessler or Froch wants to meet Ward, it is going to happen, it is the price the two top Smws are going for with this London fight. Unless Ward leaves the division, and goes to Lhw. I think it is an utterly strange thing to think that Kessler or Froch will use the same tactics against Ward next time. Marquez did just the opposite against Manny. I mean if Darnell Boone can KO Ward the two toughest guys, in Smw can clearly do the same.

Posted February 6, 2013 4:54 am 


SREDMOND

Anonymous, its really a campaign to invalidate results as if Ward had tested positive for PED’s or there was some sort of tampering with the judges… These guys do NOT like the results of those fights and like 6 year olds they are closing their eyes, putting their fingers in their ears and yelling about travelling to the high heavens…They would rather laud a losing fighter that “travelled” than the actual winner its a bizarre stance to say the least..Both Froch and Kesslers biggest victories came at home and thats just a fact…

Posted February 5, 2013 2:49 pm 


Anonymous

didn’t froch lose TWICE in the super six? hahaha

how many times did ward lose? oh yeah, that’s right. not once!

Posted February 5, 2013 2:16 pm 


Anonymous

RE: SREDMOND
LOL thanks for the info. they’re both already talking retirement rather than demanding rematch revenge from the man who humiliated them back in oakland, california. yeah, they’re both real epic warriors. i can understand froch and kessler DUCKING WARD if he had knocked them both out like he did dawson. but he beat them ON POINTS!!! and they’re still ducking him. is a thorough and thrashing boxing lesson over 12 rounds that much harder to face a second time than a brutal KO defeat??? LOL but neither kessler nor froch has DEMANDED A REMATCH with ward!!! WHY??????? until one of them does and serious negotiations kick in, anyone whining like a euro that ward won’t travel is just a big effin’ idiot. tell one of your euro “warrior” boxers to man up and make ward an offer. what’s taking them so long? LOL until one of them do, every one of their fights from here on is simply moneygrubbing and borderline pointless. enjoy the fight for 2nd place, fellas!!! LOL

Posted February 5, 2013 2:05 pm 


Anonymous

@ OneInchPunch: (PT.2)
makes you euros wonder, doesn’t it? your so-called warriors who each GOT A ROYAL BEATDOWN from ward and neither is knocking on his door for a rematch. crybabies. “he won’t travel. he won’t travel” (whined like a girl) then make ward a goddamn offer, crybabies. you think he’s the one who’s supposed to be begging for a rematch? after the beatdowns he gave nordic 1 and nordic 2??? that would make ward a sadist, which he definitely isn’t. instead, he’s just sitting back waiting for either of your warrior-heroes to give him a call. until one of them do your travel talk means squat nothing.

Posted February 5, 2013 1:57 pm 


Anonymous

@ OneInchPunch: (PT.1) why would ward travel to denmark or england if HE HASN’T BEEN GIVEN AN OFFER by either kessler or froch? for what??? to be a tourist in london? NEITHER KESSLER’S OR FROCH’S PEOPLE HAVE GIVEN HIM AN OFFER!!! ward has never once said he wouldn’t travel to fight. that’s an internet fanboy conspiracy. but he has gone on record as saying neither froch nor kessler has initiated even one scintilla of negotiation for rematches.

Posted February 5, 2013 1:56 pm 


SREDMOND

Kessler was just interviewed and said “Carl’s is the fight that I wanted I can’t see a Ward fight”. I lost a fight with him but he is a different type of fighter… Kessler is acknowledging the scant chance he could EVER prevail against Ward and a wide loss or stoppage would signal the END… Froch said he will retire if he loses to Kessler again this shows how tenuous these men believe their standing in boxing is…Its one thing to lose to the TOP fighter, its another when you cannot get past the #2 guy where do you go from there???

Posted February 5, 2013 1:45 pm 


SREDMOND

MK, neither Froch nor Kessler are better fighters but the HARD reality is that Ward is he would likely stop either man and both had been hurt during their bouts with him… Ward just trounced Dawson and discussed seeking to be more violent in the ring… Fictional rematch outcomes cannot compensate for booked wins ie Ward over Froch UD or Kessler stoppage and domination…These guys (Froch and Kessler) can win all the fights you dream about in cyberspace meanwhile when the got in a REAL boxing ring with the REAL Andre Ward, they absorbed REAL losses…. The “Cobra” looked more like a garter snake and the Viking looked more like a confused Bar Wench…AGAIN where was all the bravado when they fought?? Only excuses!!

Posted February 5, 2013 12:25 pm 


SREDMOND

One Inch Punch, you really want boxing tradition to be vacated in order to accommodate the HARSH reality that Froch and Kessler LOST… Ward is an undefeated Ring Champion and P4P fighter the BURDEN OF PROOF is on Froch and Kessler to position themselves as worthy to fight Ward again on whatever terms he deems fit…Travelling does NOT make you “Great” winning does and starting when he was a BOY, including the Olympics (Gold) and professionally all Ward has done is Win, Win, Win, Win..If Ward is NOT due respect for soundly defeating Kessler and Froch in the US then Kessler is NOT due respect for his wins in Denmark (43 or some of them) and Froch is not due respect for his suspect win over Dirrell nor his KO of Bute or UD over Pascal… You can’t have it both ways your men lost

Posted February 5, 2013 12:21 pm 


MK

Froch just participated in a live chat, on one of the big danish newspapers, where he told the people, what he thinks of Ward, and let me tell you, its not much:) I love Carl, he just don’t care, as long as its the truth. I do think that Carl needs to listen to Kalle Sauerland, in the video above, both fighters had bad defenses, in the first fight. Clearly the winner gets a rematch with the sleepingpill, so there goes his zero:)

Posted February 5, 2013 11:34 am 


OneInchPunch

SREDMOND – if he’s so great then he should give them both a rematch in their own back yard for there reasons. 1, to show he can travel, 2. there are no better fights out there for him at SMW……………….. you have shown before to argue a reasonable point… but to only to show biases & and with respect to me falsely state supposed points/comment i have made. so in essence i will not debate with someone i feel is dishonest. Thank you and goodbye.

Posted February 5, 2013 11:05 am 


SREDMOND

Neither man holds Kesslers feet to the fire for fighting ONCE outside of Denmark of all places during his first 35 bouts but they are beyond PISSED at Ward because with 20 fights he beat Kessler like an amateur in the US?? They have NO issue with their double standards because their underling agenda has NOTHING to do with who is REALLY the best fighter because that has indeed already been proving… Crying their eyes out on a boxing website and totally vacating reality is cold comfort when Ward is acknowledged as NOT only the BEST 168 pounder in the world but NOW one of the top 3 fighters on the planet and they way he attained that Greatness was by stepping on Kessler and Froch…

Posted February 5, 2013 10:18 am 


SREDMOND

One Inch Punch, MK and the rest are simply trying to shroud their disdain for Wards obvious Greatness and his defeats of Kessler and Froch with this premature “travelling argument” no matter how much we rely on the FACTS and the cold hard results they are going to drone on about how Froch or Kessler would have prevailed if only they had fought in their backyards…. But the truth is that ONLY Kessler and Froch needed hometown decisions to get their hands raised during a fight (Kessler vs Froch in Denmark) and (Froch vs Dirrell in England).. Froch and Kessler are two battlers but NEITHER man looked or performed like “a Warrior” against Ward because he simply outclassed BOTH guys and controlled the bout from start to finish…

Posted February 5, 2013 10:14 am 


OneInchPunch

Tommy – I hear what you are saying… but there is one flaw in you argument… if it does not matter, why does Ward refuse to date to travel outside the US? my previous posts were not so aimed at Jesus but more of a bias view of his followers! Peace.

Posted February 5, 2013 7:05 am 


Tommy

Wow there seems to be a lot of hate for the SOG. Yes he never fought and defended outside the US but let us all put this into perspective. He joined the SS as the underdog due to his experience I for one thought that Kessler would beat him. He then takes the whole shabang in dominant fashion by the way and now he is scared to fight overseas. Riddle me this batman, why should he. Yes lets give credit to the cobra and Kessler for going to his home town. Let us then ask ourselves “what difference does it really make who fought who and where?” Ward didn’t receive “gift decisions” when he fought them and in particular when he fought the cobra, the European judge had the wider score cards out of the three. I see some people bring up the issue of “hometown crowd” and that this affects the fight blah blah blah. If any of them were better that Ward, they would have beaten him anywhere they fought period, or in Kessler’s case, have more rounds in the books prior to the TD would warrant some sympathy .
I think all of the Europeans are butthurt because for years the Super Middleweight Division has been dominated by European fighters and Ward ripped that tradition right from them.
The fact is Froch beat the crap out of Bute for that belt, who by the way, never fought any of the upper echelon Super Middle Weights up to that point, and Kessler will be defending the WBA #2 Strap. Everybody knows Kessler we wearing a belt that Ward’s belt regurgitated after whipping Froch like a read headed stepchild.
On that note I’d wish I would still be in Europe to watch Kessler/Froch 2. As I stated in a previous post, it is probably the best fight that can be made by 2 top fighters in Europe. I expect a good fight from these two warriors, but don’t get too excited, they will be fighting for the #2 spot in the division and I expect them to right their tenures in Europe with intelligence just like Sturm did because once the cross the pond, everyone knows that the SOG will school them again.

Posted February 5, 2013 6:33 am 


MK

How is Froch going to smash Kessler to bits. Calzaghe tried to back Kessler up, but was not close to succeeding, and Kessler is somewhat of a counterpuncher. I think some people have Kessler confused with Bute or Pavlik. Kessler is better than ever, he is healthy and he has one punch KO power now, alongside with a clever trainer. I hope Froch comes out to take Kessler out, in the early rounds, this is what Kessler wants.

Posted February 5, 2013 6:13 am 


OneInchPunch

Anonymous – Ward has not fought at LH…. so how on earth can he be the best in that division?? It is tantamount to reason… if you have not fought at LH then you are not the best at that weight category…. your biasness is beyond reason. He did not fight Dawson at LH but now you have stated he is the best LW. Your words were….. “Ward IS the best in his division, as well as the light heavyweight division”, cut & past of you post. Did I miss something… did Ward fight at LH??

Posted February 5, 2013 6:11 am 


OneInchPunch

Anonymous – what are the stats for these three fighters fighting outside their own country… i can guess who has the lowest/nil… didn’t even have the balls to travel to face a champion!!

Posted February 5, 2013 6:04 am 


OneInchPunch

with-in 14 hours this fight has sold-out…. now that’s popularity and a testament to these two great fighters standing….. as warriors!!

Posted February 5, 2013 6:00 am 


Unbiased Brit.

Froch is gonna smash Kessler to bits.

Posted February 5, 2013 4:51 am 


KOrnerman

a real fight, cant wait!!!

Posted February 5, 2013 3:50 am 


Anonymous

any one who claims to be a boxing fan and doesnt know who froch and kessler are .arent really fight fans

Posted February 4, 2013 10:20 pm 


frank

ward and dirrell should not be mentioned in the same breath as far as fighters go . maybe ward is boring to some I dont think so .. but when it comes to crunch time he mans up. he will hold and head butt a little if he has to to win the guy is a world champ beat some top competition hasnt lost as a pro fight. he won a olimpic gold medal and hasnt lost a fight in the last 20 yrs? He is a great fighter as well as a boxer .direll is totaly different . he wouldnt fight to beat froch . he faked his own ko against abrham he pulled out againt ward .to me at crunch he looks like he falls apart . dirells talent migh even get him a title but when things get tough I look for direll to some how quit . where ward its just the oppisite

Posted February 4, 2013 10:07 pm 


frank

anomymous and head butts I wasnt saying ward beat kessler only because of the head butts .but anyone would be a fool to deny head butts help .The ref said ward hit kessler with at least 5 accidently head butts . after 1 or 2 head butts I dont belive the head butts are accidental . I belive if the ref was calling all the head butts accidental kessler should have hit ward with some accidental head butts. same as low punches when gollata hit bowe low 3 times I knew and the ref knew these were not accidental low blows maybe this is why ward is some what relunt to fight away from home . He has won all of his fights pretty easy . but iwhen he gets in a close fight eventually . his head butts and holding will keep getting called accidental at home .

Posted February 4, 2013 9:52 pm 


Anonymous

and re ward’s popularity. before the super six no one knew the guy’s name. in his last fight against dawson he had 10,000 people come to see him. that’s not bad to go from zero to 10,000 in under two years. and he’s only just starting out. and the american networks love him. his plan is vegas and ppv. not going to england and getting robbed andre dirrell-style.

Posted February 4, 2013 8:21 pm 


Anonymous

@ Unbiased Dane:
no, ward IS the best in his division, as well as the light heavyweight division. and if you call him boring, did you see the ward-dawson fight? i didn’t think so. there couldn’t be a true boxing fan in the world who didn’t find that performance incredible. three knockdowns? dramatic stoppage in the 10th? who are you kidding? all froch did was try and survive against him!!! have you seen the video footage of ward’s broken left hand after that fight? hideous. he fought froch ONE-HANDED and still administered a royal beatdown!!! but go ahead warrior-lovers. keep thinking he’s boring…while he keeps an iron lock on the division.

Posted February 4, 2013 8:13 pm 


Anonymous

re: ward and headbutting:
go look at the kessler/ward fight again. the first headbutt (ruled accidental) occurred in the EIGHTH ROUND. by this time, according to every ringside card, ward was up seven round to ONE for kessler. in short, he was DOMINATING him. kessler looked confused and extremely overmatched. he’d taken ward for granted big time and got his ass handed to him for his carelessness.
ward up 7 to 1 after eight before the first headbutt and you whiny kids out in internet land still crying foul about headbutts. unbelievable. kessler got punked fair and square. go rewatch the fight.

Posted February 4, 2013 8:05 pm 


Unbiased Dane

Anonymous : Ward is among the best ever in this division, but he is also p4p the most boring and ugly fighter there is. He won the super six and he is still building up a fan base ! really ?. only 5.000 americans went to see the supersixfinal, where if it was in england there would be 50.000. at the final.

Posted February 4, 2013 7:30 pm 


frank

I like Froch wanted to see him win against Ward. Always like the white guy.But it didnt matter where they fought that night . Ward won fair and square . as far as kessler . Ward fought at home and he was was allowed to head butt constantly . not even a warning I dont belive . And all that head butting helped ward in that fight yes it did .But even if ward wasnt head butting I belive he still would have won the fight regardless where they held that fight .Froch and kessesler a good fight between to real good fighters

Posted February 4, 2013 6:45 pm 


MK

Great that they could get this fight put together in London, a fight where everything can happen, the following months will only increase the talk of the top fight in the Smw division, since Calzaghe vs Kessler. When you watch the interview with both fighters on youtube, you see that these warriors, are hands-down gentlemen, compared to a certain crybaby, in the division. Reason why it is the top fight in Smw, since Calzaghe vs Kessler, is that both fighters are more dangerous now. I like Froch, but Kessler wins again, if I have to pick the most likely scenario.

Posted February 4, 2013 5:59 pm 


Anonymous

ward, by the way, is focused on building an american fan base. fighting a froch or a kessler ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD wouldn’t do much for him because nobody in america knows who froch and kessler are!!! mayweather, pacquiao, tyson, holyfield, sugar ray leonard, etc., built their fortunes and fan bases by fighting not in england or denmark, but america, baby. same goes for juan manuel marquez and roberto duran. definitely oscar de la hoya. las vegas is the venue where the truly ambitious and great yearn to fight. not dirty little nottingham or backwater denmark!!! las vegas and ppv. until froch and kessler can lay claim to ONE american fan between them, LOL, then ward most likely will have little interest in them.

Posted February 4, 2013 5:36 pm 


Anonymous

please. denmark has five million people and is one little hometown and you know it. my standard is your immediate population core. traveling a few kilometers does not make it a road fight. so by this standard, froch has fought at home 26 times as opposed to 9 times for ward (if you count san jose, california). the bigger point is, all you euro macho men claiming froch and kessler are warriors when damn near their entire careers have been spent fighting AT HOME. why haven’t either of them demanded a rematch with ward??? i won’t call them cowards, because they definitely are not. maybe just smart. they each took that ass-woopin’ once, why take it again. one ass-woopin’ from ward (p-4-p #2 or 3) and your legacy’s not so tarnished. you take a second one from him…and you are waaay out of the conversation as one of the best fighters of your generation for your division. apparently, the risk (complete legacy destruction) isn’t worth the reward (undoubted all-time great status) for either kessler or froch. let them and their fans enjoy their momentary illusion by having them fight each other. it’s a consolation prize they’ll be going after. ward is undefeated. #1 at both super middleweight and light heavyweight, and every boxing writer ON EARTH has him in the top three pound-for-pound. enjoy your semi-final match at O2 between the two great avoiders.

Posted February 4, 2013 5:25 pm 


Anonymous

You Euros are the biggest bunch of excuse-seeking crybabies with all your ward-doesn’t-travel nonsense. let’s get something straight, little people. froch has fought in his hometown 15 out of his 32 fights. that’s 47% of his fights. kessler has fought at home a staggering 43 of his 48 fights! that’s 89% of the time, for all you whiny euro math geniuses. andre ward??? he’s fought in his hometown of oakland, california FIVE TIMES out of his 26 career fights. wow! that’s 19%!!!
And, by the way, for you crybabies who think ward is scared of fighting (and winning) on the road…try this on for size: he won the Olympic LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT GOLD MEDAL in…where? ATHENS, GREECE in 2004. that’s right: he beat the ENTIRE WORLD…ON THE ROAD. LOL.
So throw that in with his other international tournament victory in the SUPER SIX.
Andre Ward: winner of two major international tournaments against the best in the world.
then he beat up the #1 light heavyweight on the planet in Bad Chad Dawson.
no wonder neither kessler or froch have made him an offer. if they had any balls, they would have done that already.
anyhow, i repeat: only 5 of wards fights have taken place in his hometown, as opposed to 43 for kessler and 15 for froch. so stop your euro-whining please. LOL

Posted February 4, 2013 4:07 pm 


Popkins

Anonymous ….and neither does having every single one of your fights on your home turf. Ward is talented, but so far, Kessler and Froch have proved to have the bigger balls my friend!

Posted February 4, 2013 3:37 pm 


Popkins

Love the fact that this fight is being named after Kessler’s ring walk song, yet Froch is the champ and it’s in the UK. Looking forward to hearing “A Warrior’s Call” on May 25th. Kessler wins via KO this time.

Posted February 4, 2013 3:34 pm 


Anonymous

fighting for second place does not make either a warrior. LOL

Posted February 4, 2013 3:33 pm 


Popkins

Posted February 4, 2013 3:22 pm 


Anonymous

ward has twice gone on record stating that neither froch nor kessler’s people have reached out to make an offer of a rematch with ward. now THAT’S weird. way to take your ass-woopin’ boys and run back to europe with your tails between your legs. real warriors, these two.

Posted February 4, 2013 2:50 pm 


Anonymous

okay fight. for second place really. ward beat the both decisively. dominated them, to be exact. froch is obviously doing everything in his power to avoid a rematch with ward. hasn’t called him out, period. kessler neither. guess they’re both satisfied with runner-up status.

Posted February 4, 2013 2:47 pm 


Holdol

Didn’t think Eddie hern liked PPV,he said it was bad for the fighters profile and the fight fans and all the rest of it ,now he’s got all the sky contract it’s not took him long to jump on the PPV band wagon for this one.Hope no one buys it so he doesn’t try to put any moor on,he got the sky contract because he was putting on the best fights…but now he’s got it you watch the greedy bastard put Moor and Moor PPV on.Its not just £15 it’s another £15 on top of skys already expensive subs.

Posted February 4, 2013 1:11 pm 


Junior

I cant help but feel this fight is bigger than either of them rematching Ward

Posted February 4, 2013 12:56 pm 


KOrnerman

fights like these don’t come too often I for one cannot wait, cmon Cobra sock it to him!!!

Posted February 4, 2013 12:36 pm 


Snakerama

I got my ticket, this event now appears to be sold out.

I think Froch will bag a victory this time around.

Posted February 4, 2013 9:07 am 


OneInchPunch

Who cares what it’s for…. just a fight that’s got to happen and these two Warriors are getting it on…. just bought my tickets!! Just a shame more fighters do not have their attitude and balls!!

Posted February 4, 2013 8:29 am 


Junior

i find it funny that WBA are regarded as the other half of the big 2 (along with WBC), yet the WBA do silly things like make up silly super titles, and make the likes of Hasim Rahman number 1 contender for a world heavyweight title, and allow Felix Sturm to avoid the likes of Gennady Golovkin for years, then punish Daniel Geale for not fighting GGG straight away.

Posted February 4, 2013 7:09 am 


Mike.

I think its for his WBA Super Dooper title,

Posted February 4, 2013 5:46 am 


Tommy

Hm…. Good fight. probably the biggest fight in europe at the moment. can somebody anwser me this. The Cobra is the IBF champ and Kesller is the WBA regular champ. doest the WBA elevate you to “super champion” after you unify? if so we all know tat SOG has that. does anybody think that the WBA will make another belt for this rematch to collect sactioning fees? lol. just saying.

Posted February 4, 2013 3:59 am 



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