confirmed-Khan to fight Oisin Fagan! [Archive]

brown bomber

10-30-2008, 06:00 AM

aye youive been in the ring with him havent you ?what do you think of his realistic chances ? I think its a good comeback fight in terms of credability. Fagan can hit a bit and he'll come to win. He gave Paul Spadfora an excellent fight and also the last loss he had was very contoversial. I'm good friends with Fagan so i've sent him message to ask him what the crack is re this fight. I think Khan is a different class in terms of boxing ability but when your chin has all the structure strength of a sandcastle then there is room for an upset. I'd give him a better chance then most based on the fact Khans coming back from the KO loss and Fagan will come to have a row.

toffeejack

10-30-2008, 06:12 AM

I think its a good comeback fight in terms of credability. Fagan can hit a bit and he'll come to win. He gave Paul Spadfora an excellent fight and also the last loss he had was very contoversial. I'm good friends with Fagan so i've sent him message to ask him what the crack is re this fight. I think Khan is a different class in terms of boxing ability but when your chin has all the structure strength of a sandcastle then there is room for an upset. I'd give him a better chance then most based on the fact Khans coming back from the KO loss and Fagan will come to have a row.

So look for good odds on a Fagan KO then?

brown bomber

10-30-2008, 06:25 AM

So look for good odds on a Fagan KO then? Well its worth a couple of quid. I think its very difficult to make anyone a favourite against Khan because we all know how good he can be but I wouldn't be suprised if Fagan was to make things difficult.

Beeston Brawler

10-30-2008, 06:31 AM

Maxime

10-30-2008, 06:43 AM

Holy padded record batman!!! :lol:

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brown bomber

10-30-2008, 07:07 AM

Holy padded record batman!!! :lol:

[Only registered and activated users can see links] There are quite a few dodgy wins on there but I think thats due more to his location then his ability as proved by the close losses at top level to kinborough and spadafora

dwilson

10-30-2008, 07:11 AM

This could be a good fight and is decent for Khan to come back with. Never seen Fagan fight but he is ok, good enough to cause a KO upset if he does not get stopped early himself. Fighters usually like a gimme when they suffer a first defeat so Khan going in against a guy with a winning record should be commended.

robpalmer135

10-30-2008, 07:13 AM

:rofl There are quite a few dodgy wins on there but I think thats due more to his location then his ability as proved by the close losses at top level to kinborough and spadafora

there one against some lad called jeff thomas. absolute bum apparently he could fight his way out of a paper bag........................HAHA

elle

10-30-2008, 07:26 AM

he is due in a press confrence today!:hey

Seems the info on ticketmaster's site was accurate then. :good
I mentioned Fagan was listed as Khan's next opponent on here yesterday.

D-MAC

10-30-2008, 07:31 AM

There are quite a few dodgy wins on there but I think thats due more to his location then his ability as proved by the close losses at top level to kinborough and spadafora

Jesus Christ Jeff! I never even knew you were Irish!

Fagan's split decision loss to Spadafora doesn't look too bad (despite it being 2007 Spadafora). Could give Khan a bit of bother.....or could get KO'd in the 1st round. I would not want to make a definite prediction for this fight.

No complaints regarding the matchmaking for this comeback bout, although another unbeaten South American banger would have been better:D

doug.ie

10-30-2008, 07:35 AM

hartley??...andrew hartley??

then less than a year later on to world title challenger spafadora....thats some jump in class :-)...and of course esb legend jeff thomas :-)

Rebel 08

10-30-2008, 07:43 AM

hartley??...andrew hartley??

then less than a year later on to world title challenger spafadora....thats some jump in class :-)...and of course esb legend jeff thomas :-)

Supposedly his manager in the states was a joke and couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery, he'll definately give Khan a few problems just like Gomez did in the early rounds of their fight.

SouthpawSlayer

10-30-2008, 07:45 AM

no way come on oisin

Hagler/Pryor

10-30-2008, 07:53 AM

Unless Khan's confidence has truly plummeted, I would have gone for Kimbrough rather than Fagan. He is less of a puncher but a better boxer and all-round fighter. It's not as if they are proving anything by letting Fagan have a crack at Khan's chin. Khan has taken better punches than Fagan is capable of landing, without that much trouble, in my view.

D-MAC

10-30-2008, 07:55 AM

TFFP

10-30-2008, 08:02 AM

What punches has Khan eaten for breakfast from bigger punches than Fagan? I'd love to know. It seems every time he's hit he is either knocked down or hurt.

Hagler/Pryor

10-30-2008, 08:02 AM

What? Like the ones he took from murderous-punching KO artist Willie Limmond!

Fagan is certainly not as good all-round as Limond. Surely you are not arguing Limond punches less hard than Fagan, are you? If, then, he isn't ready for Limond yet, he should at least fight someone like Kimbrough. Fagan is too much of a backwards step in my view and wouldn't check his chin either. Khan took Gomez' punches, he was up against Earl...I wasn't thinking of Stefy Bull, you know.

Vantage_West

10-30-2008, 08:10 AM

You also have to take into account the ref doing Khan a favour.....

I was looking for it against Prescott to be honest - well in fact he was allowed to carry on after being decked when most wouldn't have been. It reminded me a bit of Lewis vs McCall but worse.....

He was helped in the Drilzane, Limond and Gomez fights as well.no no no drilzane kinda swarmed him and khan backed up and got his foot tangled in the ropes....not a knockdown and thus the ref didnt do him a favour

Beeston Brawler

10-30-2008, 08:17 AM

Sorry I am just a hater.

He certainly got favours in the Limond (especially) and Gomez fights though.

ishy

10-30-2008, 08:20 AM

Fagan is certainly not as good all-round as Limond. Surely you are not arguing Limond punches less hard than Fagan, are you? If, then, he isn't ready for Limond yet, he should at least fight someone like Kimbrough. Fagan is too much of a backwards step in my view and wouldn't check his chin either. Khan took Gomez' punches, he was up against Earl...I wasn't thinking of Stefy Bull, you know.

He took a shitty arm punch from Gomez and went down and he was seriously hurt by a body shot. Earl was shot to shit and didn't even land a decent punch on Khan.

Stella Fella

10-30-2008, 08:24 AM

Back to fighting bums then! Obviously been relegated to box office undercard.
Hope all talks of Khan becoming world champion is done, fighting a 34 year old 22-5 ranked 206 is hardly going to get him there. I heard pacman ko him in sparring.

Beeston Brawler

10-30-2008, 08:25 AM

The Gomez punch was a cuffing shot, one you would expect a fighter to take. The body shot was pretty heavy though and would trouble most fighters - especially ones that are useless on the inside like Amir.

D-MAC

10-30-2008, 08:25 AM

He took a shitty arm punch from Gomez and went down and he was seriously hurt by a body shot. Earl was shot to shit and didn't even land a decent punch on Khan.

Thank you Ishy:good

Saved me the bother.

brown bomber

10-30-2008, 08:28 AM

Plus the JAB against Prescott. Hagler/Pryor your having a laugh.

Rebel 08

10-30-2008, 08:30 AM

What? Like the ones he took from murderous-punching KO artist Willie Limmond!

Brilliant!!!

Hagler/Pryor

10-30-2008, 08:41 AM

I take on board everything you all said and I don't disagree with it either. However, if Khan's chin is so poor that even an average punching average journeyman should from now on be considered a threat, why are you all still interested in Khan's comeback or his future prospects?

I am not arguing he should go in against a puncher. I am arguing he should go in against a better fighter than Fagan. Fagan is not going to prove anything about Khan that we don't already know; he's not a puncher by any means, not even when compared to the kind of fighters Khan has faced before Prescott, and he is too far a step backwards for this fight to help Khan come back.

You may disagree with me about my conclusion, but I can't see why you would want to convince anyone Fagan has the kind of punch that could cause Khan difficulties, poor chin or not, without agreeing that Khan's career is effectively over, if he has to take Fagan's power very seriously. If Khan's career is effectively over, why bother getting at all excited about his next opponents or future prospects?

Beeston Brawler

10-30-2008, 08:42 AM

Would you have said it was a jab, or a straight?

TFFP

10-30-2008, 08:52 AM

Who's getting excited? His career is over as far as being a world champion is concerned.

But he's still a big deal in British boxing, and hence he'll be talked about.

Fagan has enough to hurt him, if Limond and former super featherweights can hurt him so can Fagan.

TommyV

10-30-2008, 09:14 AM

ishy

10-30-2008, 09:27 AM

Just remembered, it's Buncey hour at 2pm. We should ask him what he thinks of this match up.

ApatheticLeader

10-30-2008, 10:09 AM

Wow.....I actually give Khan credit for taking this fight. I thought he'd start off against a total can.

I almost hope Khan wins now. Almost, but not quite.

EDIT: Never mind, Fagan isn't that good at all.

TommyV

10-30-2008, 10:43 AM

Fagan is a test. He's a good pressure fighter, and beat Paul Spadafora before being robbed.

He's a real test, especially after getting brutally KO'd.

faisal

10-30-2008, 10:52 AM

hes a teacher outside the ring may be he'll teach khan a thing or two in novemember it still would have been nice if he fought gethin

smjm1

10-30-2008, 12:01 PM

Id love to see Khan gettin KOd again it was a thing of beauty.:bbb :!:

D-MAC

10-30-2008, 12:05 PM

Fagan knows what he has to do...jump on the fucker at the opening bell, and just chance his arm.

JIM KELLY

10-30-2008, 12:19 PM

the structure strength of a sandcastle .

lol i noticed u mentioned this in the email to Buncey today!!!

Broxi

10-30-2008, 12:50 PM

Holy padded record batman!!! :lol:

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Andrew Hartley, eh?

brown bomber

10-30-2008, 12:59 PM

lol i noticed u mentioned this in the email to Buncey today!!!Anyone recorded the show... :lol:

Paddy

10-30-2008, 01:17 PM

Anyone recorded the show... :lol:

Have to say im quiet looking forward to seeing this is week

Fucking states........

Id love to see Khan gettin KOd again it was a thing of beauty.:bbb :!:

He was like a wounded deer that was caught in the headlights of an oncomming car

Claypole

10-30-2008, 02:37 PM

Id love to see Khan gettin KOd again it was a thing of beauty.:bbb :!:It was indeed, but for it to happen twice in a row is asking too much. We are destined for a fair few more easy wins for Khan before we get another starching.
It will take a while before the general public can put the Prescott loss down to a "learning experience".

margo82

10-30-2008, 03:21 PM

After taking out Hartley in 1, you'd have to make Fagan favourite for this fight.

brown bomber

10-30-2008, 04:24 PM

Fagans a tough kid... I don't think he'll win but I hope he does.

SouthpawSlayer

10-30-2008, 04:26 PM

this fight is causing more interest now in dublin than the bigger fight that is on that night (pac oscar)

Healy

10-30-2008, 05:06 PM

Best of luck to Oisin!!!

ishy

10-30-2008, 05:07 PM

Fagan knows what he has to do...jump on the fucker at the opening bell, and just chance his arm.

:rofl:rofl Simple as it is, you are 100% spot on.

faisal

10-30-2008, 06:15 PM

would gethin have been a better fight

Max Molyneux

10-30-2008, 06:20 PM

Fagan is going to spark him.

Just so some of you know, he actually clean KO'd Hartley, and beat Spadafora.

He was supposed to fight Andrew Murray but obviously looks like that hasn't come off.

Best of look to him.

lol, Stacy claims Harley has never been KO'ed clean. Shame Fagan had him as his manager as he's one of the few ******* fighters who Is actually good.

JonOli

10-30-2008, 07:06 PM

Good luck to him I say. I could perhaps understand people wanting to see him knocked out the first time - but I'm not sure why the want to see the kid fail again. Britain is hardly laden with upcoming boxing talent. He obviously has a chin of china as the whole country knows - if he can over come that (extremely unlikely) well that would be a feat. Everyone expects to see him get KO'ed again. Seeing him get knocked out again now means nothing. Personally I'll be routing for the English man, not Irishman.

JIM KELLY

10-30-2008, 11:24 PM

hahah so kkan is the underdog!?

Hagler/Pryor

10-31-2008, 05:26 AM

It's perplexing to see such an overreaction. Khan's opponents have known that he doesn't have a good chin since Limond put him down. They have tried to rush him and stop him ever since and only Prescott has managed to do so. So suddenly now every Tom, Dick and Harry is going to stop Khan just by rushing him and taking a chance? I am not expecting Khan to stop Fagan either, but there is only one big favourite in this fight, I think. I also don't understand why so many want to see Khan fail again, particularly against this calibre of opposition. If Khan fails again, it won't make Fagan look better; it will just make Khan look very much worse than everyone expected he'd be. So how would British boxing gain by losing Khan altogether, again? I just don't get it.

slapbangwhallop

10-31-2008, 06:57 PM

There are quite a few dodgy wins on there but I think thats due more to his location then his ability as proved by the close losses at top level to kinborough and spadafora

Correct - thats more down to him being promoted by the hillbilly Stacey Goodson rather than anything else.