Greatest match that never came off..? [Archive]

AlFrancis

10-31-2008, 03:35 AM

Danny Lopez - Arguello
Danny Lopez - Wilfredo Gomez
Carlos Palomino - Pipino Cuevas
Lupe Pintor - Jeff Chandler
Sal Sanchez - Eusebio Pedroza
Jofre - Saldivar 1960's
Jose Napoles - Carlos Ortiz
Conteh - Galindez
Duran - Arguello

Loewe

10-31-2008, 07:00 AM

Just for McGrain:
Robinson-Burley

Langford-Greb ???

DamonD

10-31-2008, 07:03 AM

Probably not the greatest, but Lewis-Bowe anytime from 1993-1996 would've been a big draw and a fierce fight. All the ingrediants were there that'd make marketing it a dream.

JohnThomas1

10-31-2008, 07:16 AM

I'll do a few from the 80's ish

Dokes - Witherspoon
Spinks - EMM II
EMM - Qawi
Saad - Spinks
Hagler - Benitez
Hearns - Mugabi
McCallum - plenty
SRL - Pryor
Ayala - Duran
Hearns - Ayala
Curry - Pryor
McCrory - Starling
Arguello - Camacho
Sanchez - Pedroza
Pedroza - Gomez
Chandler - Pintor

fists of fury

10-31-2008, 07:18 AM

To name just one: Lewis vs. Bowe

fists of fury

10-31-2008, 07:20 AM

Probably not the greatest, but Lewis-Bowe anytime from 1993-1996 would've been a big draw and a fierce fight. All the ingrediants were there that'd make marketing it a dream.

Beat me to it. I can't think of a bigger fight in the 90's, honestly. (That didn't happen.)

Senya13

10-31-2008, 07:22 AM

Sullivan vs Jackson
Dempsey vs Wills

ChrisPontius

10-31-2008, 07:30 AM

It would've been great to see Roy Jones vs either of Benn or McClellan before they ruined each other (in a great fight). A Jones-Hopkins rematch 1997-2000, while the first one was boring, would've been interesting from a legacy point of view.

Russell

10-31-2008, 07:30 AM

Two that were mentioned at the time but never terribly close to coming off as far as I know

Hagler vs. Spinks (Spink's wanted the match-up pretty badly and taunted Hagler to some degree)

Hagler/Leonard II

Foster/Monzon

Russell

10-31-2008, 07:30 AM

Sweet Pea

10-31-2008, 07:33 AM

Saad - Spinks
One I'd loved to have seen as well. How do you see it going?

JohnThomas1

10-31-2008, 07:42 AM

One I'd loved to have seen as well. How do you see it going?

TBH i see Spinks taking him out. Saad is a great warrior but Spinks is too well rounded and hard hitting IMO to get beat in this one. Saad's penchant for taking loads of punishment and the best the opponent has before roaring back late doesn't work against such fearsome power.

Holmes' Jab

10-31-2008, 07:45 AM

I'll do a few from the 80's ish

Dokes - Witherspoon
Hagler - Benitez
Curry - Pryor
Arguello - Camacho
Sanchez - Pedroza

Very good choices, mate. These ones in particular interest me and would be fancinating fights I think.

JohnThomas1

10-31-2008, 07:57 AM

Very good choices, mate. These ones in particular interest me and would be fascinating fights I think.

Yeah HJ, some serious stylistic matchups in that lot mate. Some can't have been far off fruition either.

jowcol

10-31-2008, 08:06 AM

TBH i see Spinks taking him out. Saad is a great warrior but Spinks is too well rounded and hard hitting IMO to get beat in this one. Saad's penchant for taking loads of punishment and the best the opponent has before roaring back late doesn't work against such fearsome power.

Unfortunately they could have NEVER met on equal prime v prime terms.
A 78 Saad could never face an 83 Spinks so any result had they fought wouldn't have really meant anything.

JohnThomas1

10-31-2008, 08:11 AM

Unfortunately they could have NEVER met on equal prime v prime terms.
A 78 Saad could never face an 83 Spinks so any result had they fought wouldn't have really meant anything.

If they fought before Qawi finished Saad it would have meant loads. The loss to Qawi was quite a shock. They were actually going to fight but Qawi ruined things, to say the least.

Admittedly Saad peaked substancially earlier but tho there were worries nobody predicted his sudden demise. Maybe Qawi would have always been a bad match for him.

mcvey

10-31-2008, 08:19 AM

The obvious ones.
Sullivan Jackson
Jeffries Johnson [prime Jeff]
Johnson Langford[at heavy]
Dempsey Wills
Tunney Sharkey /Tunney Godfrey
Robinson Burley
Pedroza Sanchez
Conteh Galindez
Nelson Mcguigan
McCallum Leonard /Hearns/Hagler
Holmes Thomas/Coetzee
Bowe Lewis
Lewis Tyson [prime]
Bowe Tyson

Bigcat

10-31-2008, 08:19 AM

Probably not the greatest, but Lewis-Bowe anytime from 1993-1996 would've been a big draw and a fierce fight. All the ingrediants were there that'd make marketing it a dream.

You said it right there...

In 1993 this fight was a natural.. Lewis beat Tucker on points to take WBC , and Bowe had the rest of the titles, rather than fight Holyfield in a rematch in November 1993 , Lewis v Bowe should have appeared in Vegas, with the winner maybee fighting the challenger Moorer next.. Evander seemed to get rematches all over the place, Evander rematched Stewart, Moorer , Bowe, Lewis, Tyson, Qwawi.. Hell Evander rematched everyone.........

fists of fury

10-31-2008, 08:45 AM

...except Bert Cooper. :D

Minotauro

10-31-2008, 09:50 AM

Floyd Patterson vs Harold Johnson while Floyd was heavyweight champ
Luis Manuel Rodriguez vs Jose Napoles in 1965
Joe Walcott vs Tommy Ryan in 1901

jowcol

10-31-2008, 09:57 AM

If they fought before Qawi finished Saad it would have meant loads. The loss to Qawi was quite a shock. They were actually going to fight but Qawi ruined things, to say the least.
Admittedly Saad peaked substancially earlier but tho there were worries nobody predicted his sudden demise. Maybe Qawi would have always been a bad match for him.

Had Saad fought Mike instead of Qawi at that time it would have simply been Mike instead of Qawi that would have caused his ''sudden demise'' IMHO. Saad had just been thru too many wars by that point. Six+ years of taking numerous devastating shots from several champs and contenders. :shock:

pijo

10-31-2008, 09:58 AM

Just for it being a possible war, Hatton-Gatti.
I remember it being very possible until Gatti lost to Baldomir.

My dinner with Conteh

10-31-2008, 10:19 AM

Dokes - Witherspoon

I think those Greg Page tapes are getting to your head mate. :good

El Puma

10-31-2008, 01:03 PM

Duran-Arguello

SteveO

10-31-2008, 01:26 PM

Tyson-Foreman.

From what I heard, it was nearly a done deal.

la-califa

10-31-2008, 01:59 PM

Saad Mohammad-Scott
Holmes-Weaver=Unification match
Cuevas-Palomino
Hearns-Benn
Arguello-Duran
Sanchez-Chavez at 130.
Mando Ramos-Rudolfo Gonzalez
Michael Spinks-Holyfield = 195.

McGrain

10-31-2008, 02:02 PM

Just for McGrain:
Robinson-Burley

I honestly thinkg this is the best fight that never happened.

Johnson- Langford
Lopez-Carbajal
Greb-Dempsey
Wills-Dempsey
Langford-Dempsey
Midget Wolgast-Dempsey
Battling Siki-Dempsey

Robbi

10-31-2008, 02:06 PM

Curry-McCallum, when it was meant to happen in 1986.

Norton-Frazier.

Holmes-Page.

Tyson-Holyfield (1991).

Robinson-Burley.

Nelson-McGuigan.

Mantequilla

10-31-2008, 03:23 PM

Conteh vs Eddie Gregory.

HyperBone

11-01-2008, 04:06 AM

lamotta - cerdan 2

young griffo

11-01-2008, 05:32 AM

Famechon-Rose
Duran-Cervantes
Darcy-Carpentier
Dempsey-Wills
Jones-McClellan
Lewis-Klitschko 2
Fenech-McGuigan
Nelson-Sanchez 2

AlFrancis

11-01-2008, 06:41 AM

Famechon-Rose
Duran-Cervantes
Darcy-Carpentier
Dempsey-Wills
Jones-McClellan
Lewis-Klitschko 2
Fenech-McGuigan
Nelson-Sanchez 2

What is the story here. Why didn't Rose - Famechon come off, it would of been a natural. Everyone new Rose was having trouble with the weight. He could of took this fight in the summer of 69 as reigning bantam champ. Surely it would of been the biggest fight in Australian boxing history.

Who would of won?

JohnThomas1

11-01-2008, 07:54 AM

Had Saad fought Mike instead of Qawi at that time it would have simply been Mike instead of Qawi that would have caused his ''sudden demise'' IMHO. Saad had just been thru too many wars by that point. Six+ years of taking numerous devastating shots from several champs and contenders. :shock:

True enough. I think peak Spinks (as well as Dwight) is a frightening matchup for peak Saad tho.

JohnThomas1

11-01-2008, 07:55 AM

I think those Greg Page tapes are getting to your head mate. :good

:lol:

Hey, the heavies were a real merry go round and bouts like Dokes - Berbick/Snipes/Page/Cooney/Witherspoon just didn't happen unfortunately :smoke

Nick Balsamo

11-02-2008, 01:51 AM

The most interesting to see IMO...

Ray Robinson vs Charley Burley
Lennox Lewis vs Riddick Bowe
James Toney vs Bernard Hopkins (175-180 lbs catchweight) :yep
Roy Jones Jr. vs Gerald McClellan
Aaron Pryor vs Sugar Ray Leonard
Salvador Sanchez vs Eusebio Pedroza

young griffo

11-02-2008, 01:42 AM

What is the story here. Why didn't Rose - Famechon come off, it would of been a natural. Everyone new Rose was having trouble with the weight. He could of took this fight in the summer of 69 as reigning bantam champ. Surely it would of been the biggest fight in Australian boxing history.

Who would of won?
The story is that they were Australia's two biggest stars at the time and the fear among both camps was that if they met a loss for either fighter would damage their reputation and kill off the career of one of them.So for the good of Australian boxing the fight didn't happen,at least this is the story I heard.

It would've been a great fight and going by both men's showing against Harada many would favour Rose but I've always felt that Harada's style played right into Lionel's hands whereas Famechon presented more problems stylistically.Famechon was fast,had a very good defense,a great jab and a better punch than he's given credit for and I reckon he'd out slick the counter puncher to take a close decision.

KCD

11-02-2008, 05:06 AM

Monzon v Foster

For me as a massive Monzon fan would have been heaven.

the cobra

11-02-2008, 06:24 AM

Originally posted by KCD
Monzon v Foster

For me as a massive Monzon fan would have been heaven.
You're a massive Monzon fan and a fight against Foster is what you would have liked to see?

Speaking as a fellow Monzon fan, that is a fight I am happy he avoided. No need to see him get knocked out.