View Full Version : Matvei Korobov turns pro
Kolya
11-02-2008, 01:25 AM
He won his pro debut in the 3rd round tonight in Las Vegas, I believe. He fought under the name "Matt Korobov". :patsch
Was this fight at 160? I fear that "Matt" may not be physically large enough for middlrweight.
P.S. Just checked it out. Yes "Matt" did fight at 160!
Korobov was a middleweight in amateur boxing which has actually a higher weight limit than middleweight in professional boxing.
Middleweight (amateur) = 75 kg
Middlweight (pro) = 72, 6 kg
So I wouldn't worry about that.
znaak
11-02-2008, 04:12 AM
I need to see this fight... I have very high hopes for him.
avk47
11-02-2008, 05:50 AM
He won his pro debut in the 3rd round tonight in Las Vegas, I believe. He fought under the name "Matt Korobov". :patsch
His parents immigrated to the US in the mid 90s, and he frequently visited them so its not that surprising. Matt Korobov does sound silly though. Anybody have the video?
Kolya
11-02-2008, 01:36 PM
His parents immigrated to the US in the mid 90s, and he frequently visited them so its not that surprising. Matt Korobov does sound silly though. Anybody have the video?
I knew about his parents, thought they lived in Florida. He weighed 165 apparently last night, is scheduled to fight again on 12/13.
znaak
11-02-2008, 03:39 PM
Noe one got a link for the fight? I can't find it anywhere. :huh
Kolya
11-02-2008, 05:50 PM
Noe one got a link for the fight? I can't find it anywhere. :huh
It was the very first fight on the undercard of the Donaire fight, I doubt it got filmed. It was the same for Danny Jacobs' first few fights (who, ironically, got RSCO'd by Korobov in the amateurs).
Future world champion here.
I wanted Artayev to turn pro as well, that would be great to watch.
It was the very first fight on the undercard of the Donaire fight, I doubt it got filmed. It was definitely televised, I'm trying to get it, may take a while though. Yes I am aware of this information. I however simply feel that "Matt" does not have the frame/physical stature of what has passed for success in the professional ranks. He even appeared to get bullied around a bit by Artayev in the Olympics. Do Calzaghe or Pavlik look like they have the "frame/physical stature" for what they have achieved? What should Miranda have done if success is based on "frame/physical stature"? Artayev is elite, no shame in losing to him, although it was a disappointment as Korobov was a very strong gold medal favourite. He probably won't be fighting anyone near that level in the next two years.
avk47
11-03-2008, 05:26 AM
Korobov is hardly a weak man:
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dwilson
11-03-2008, 07:30 AM
Looking forward to following his career.
znaak
11-03-2008, 10:04 AM
He looks strong. I need to see the fight! :-(
znaak
11-03-2008, 10:07 AM
It was the very first fight on the undercard of the Donaire fight, I doubt it got filmed. It was the same for Danny Jacobs' first few fights (who, ironically, got RSCO'd by Korobov in the amateurs).
It got filmed. Just found it!
It's on a BitTorrent site, so I'm not linking to it here. I'll download it and upload it myself... If you want it, just send me a PM.
Here's a youtube link:
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shawn1262231
11-03-2008, 12:41 PM
Here's a youtube link:
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chuffy
11-04-2008, 08:29 AM
Here's a youtube link:
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kenmore
11-04-2008, 06:22 PM
His parents immigrated to the US in the mid 90s, and he frequently visited them so its not that surprising. Matt Korobov does sound silly though. Anybody have the video?
I think the Anglicizing of his name to "Matt" is great. It will make him more appealing to American redneck fans. Povetkin should do the same thing and call himself "Al." After all, American rednecks are a big part of the American sporting audience.
I am curious as to what Korobov's ethnic background is. I doubt that he is fully Russian. Is he Tartar?
Mendoza
11-04-2008, 06:28 PM
It only takes 15 seconds to see that Korobov has fantastic skills and speed.
rumour24tiger
11-05-2008, 04:20 AM
He does look good. Very good. Relaxed, aggressive, compact, nice array of punches.
I hope Bob Arum does somthing good with him. I think he'll be keen to develop Koborov as his next big middleweight, for when Pavlik moves up to super middle.
avk47
11-05-2008, 05:58 AM
What should they call Beibut Shumenov? I am thinking "Billy" would suffice! :yep How in the heck would they palatize Islam Timurziev? Possibly "Ishy" :rofl I think you may be on to something. :good
I am also curious as to Korobov's, sorry; I mean Matty's :yep ethnic background. He looks Dagestani to me. I believe he was raised in a remote part of Eastern Russia, for whatever that may be worth.
I bet Avk47 can elaborate!
Islam Timurziev should be called Ishy "Slam" Timmerman
Beibut Shumenov would probably be beter approximated to Bobby (or Bubba) Shuman.
I don't know what Korobov's ethinic ancestry is. He's got an ethnically Russian name and is hardly a strongly tartar looking guy, so he could just be Russian. Coming from Orkutan doesn't really tell anything. Magadan was an area where due to prison camps and natural resources people were moved there during the Soviet Union from all the republics of the union.
Anyway, it's silly to be so specific with someone's exact ethnicity in Russia, unless your name is like Islam Timurziev and you grew up in Dagestan, are Muslim and it is quite clear who your ancestors were. The rest of us Russians all have a mix in us. I know I probably have a bit of tartar in me as well as some other nationalities although I consider myself Russian. I always thought my grandfather from the north was very slavic, but then it turned out he was so light because of some ancestors from Karelia (Finns).
avk47
11-05-2008, 06:03 AM
I think the Anglicizing of his name to "Matt" is great. It will make him more appealing to American redneck fans. Povetkin should do the same thing and call himself "Al." After all, American rednecks are a big part of the American sporting audience.
I am curious as to what Korobov's ethnic background is. I doubt that he is fully Russian. Is he Tartar?
Povetkin doesn't need to cater for American rednecks, and there is not really such a fascination with the US market in Russia any more. Povetkin's marketing positions him more as a proud patriot, calling him the Russian warrior etc. He is frequently quoted as saying 'I'm fighting for Russia' etc. Even his entrance song is pretty patriotic with references to Slavic mythology etc. In his last fight in Checkhov he came out in a procession of paratroopers carrying the Russian flag, and bimbos in camoflage outfits.
He's got a huge market at home, and there is no need for him to move out west and Americanize. In fact, that would probably lower his earning potential.
avk47
11-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Great info/oponions Avk :good Especially the "Bubba Shuman" suggestion. :lol: The only problem is that "Shuman" could be mistaken for a Hebrew surname so I fear one would have to further modify the name.
How about Bubba Shum??? :yep
Yes, but there is the tradeoff. If Bubba takes Shuman, he gets the approval of the wealthy jewish population, but the rednecks don't like him.
He should opt for a compromise: Bubba Shumer.
Islam Timurziev should be called Ishy "Slam" Timmerman
Beibut Shumenov would probably be beter approximated to Bobby (or Bubba) Shuman.
I don't know what Korobov's ethinic ancestry is. He's got an ethnically Russian name and is hardly a strongly tartar looking guy, so he could just be Russian. Coming from Orkutan doesn't really tell anything. Magadan was an area where due to prison camps and natural resources people were moved there during the Soviet Union from all the republics of the union.
Anyway, it's silly to be so specific with someone's exact ethnicity in Russia, unless your name is like Islam Timurziev and you grew up in Dagestan, are Muslim and it is quite clear who your ancestors were. The rest of us Russians all have a mix in us. I know I probably have a bit of tartar in me as well as some other nationalities although I consider myself Russian. I always thought my grandfather from the north was very slavic, but then it turned out he was so light because of some ancestors from Karelia (Finns).
Truly spoken,avk! A decade ago nobody cared a fig whether your mother was korean and your father Ukranian . You spoke Russian- you were Russian aka homo sovieticus.That has changed a lot in lot of countries of the former soviet union.Nevertheless,there is still a strong bond among all russian speaking people whether you are Belarussian,Ukranian,Kazahk,Russian,Moldavian,or Tartar.
However,people from the caucasian region have been excluded from that greater russian comuntiy due to various reasons.
My wife's grandfather was mongolian.Nevertheless,she looks more typical Belarussian than most of ethnic Belarussians of pure blood.
What should they call Beibut Shumenov? I am thinking "Billy" would suffice! :yep How in the heck would they palatize Islam Timurziev? Possibly "Ishy" :rofl I think you may be on to something. :good
I am also curious as to Korobov's, sorry; I mean Matty's :yep ethnic background. He looks Dagestani to me. I believe he was raised in a remote part of Eastern Russia, for whatever that may be worth.
I bet Avk47 can elaborate!
Fuck off, there's only one ishy:lol::yep.
Brickhaus
11-06-2008, 03:28 PM
I think the Anglicizing of his name to "Matt" is great. It will make him more appealing to American redneck fans. Povetkin should do the same thing and call himself "Al." After all, American rednecks are a big part of the American sporting audience.
I am curious as to what Korobov's ethnic background is. I doubt that he is fully Russian. Is he Tartar?
Hasn't he already spent a substantial amount of time in the US, with his family living in Florida for the past 8 years or so? If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he goes by "Matt" when he's in the US anyway, whether or not he does it for promotional purposes.
southpawslick
11-06-2008, 03:31 PM
I think the Anglicizing of his name to "Matt" is great. It will make him more appealing to American redneck fans. Povetkin should do the same thing and call himself "Al." After all, American rednecks are a big part of the American sporting audience.
I am curious as to what Korobov's ethnic background is. I doubt that he is fully Russian. Is he Tartar?
I work with rednecks. They don't know shit about boxing. The last HW champ they can name is Ali :lol:
Hasn't he already spent a substantial amount of time in the US, with his family living in Florida for the past 8 years or so? If so, I wouldn't be surprised at all if he goes by "Matt" when he's in the US anyway, whether or not he does it for promotional purposes.
Not really, here ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) it says that he reunited with his parents for the first time since they immigrated at the World Championships 2007.
Would you consider that Ismail Sillakh(sp) guy to be Ukranian? His father is from Sierra Leon. He is about as Ukranian as Herbie Hide is English.
Sillakh is half Ukrainian, I think? Hide is 100% Nigerian, he just moved to England as a child.
Actually; You were my inspiration for Islam's Anglo name equivalent.:yep
:goodI take that as a compliment :lol:. So, is Islam going to turn pro or is he staying amateur?
avk47
11-06-2008, 05:07 PM
Not really, here ([Only registered and activated users can see links]) it says that he reunited with his parents for the first time since they immigrated at the World Championships 2007.
Sillakh is half Ukrainian, I think? Hide is 100% Nigerian, he just moved to England as a child.
Silakh's mother is Ukranian, father is from Sierra Leone. He was born in Ukraine and never left the country until he started going to boxing tournaments. He went to school there and learned everything he know there. I'd say he's more Ukranian than African, even if his skin is dark.
southpawslick
11-07-2008, 12:53 AM
No doubt! The most ravenous fight fans in the U.S. are people of Latino origin. Maybe we should be using Spanish names. Mateo Korobov, ANYONE!!! :oops::lol: :lol: :lol: Brilliant :good
avk47
11-07-2008, 01:31 AM
:lol: :lol: :lol: Brilliant :good
I'd change his last name as well. Mateo Cordoba.
avk47
11-07-2008, 04:08 PM
This thread delivers! :rofl
I've just realized that these name-change discussions fill a large chunk of the threads in the Euro forum! I love it :D .
Would you consider that Ismail Sillakh(sp) guy to be Ukranian? His father is from Sierra Leon. He is about as Ukranian as Herbie Hide is English.
Sillahk? I had the pleasure to watch his last outing to a ring live in Germany's capital Berlin. Sillakh fought on the undercard of Vitaly vs Sam Peter.
Ukranian? Tough question.
I dont know. Malik Dziarra is a German based Belarussian whose father stems from Africa as well. Is Malik Dziarra Belarussian??
Really tough question! He grew up in Belarus,he speaks Russian(+Belarussian?),speaks German with a Russian accent,got his education there,and so on.
Is he Belarussian? Honestly,I dont know. He is probably more Belarussian than African.Thats for sure!
Most Belarussians probably dont consider him to be Belarussian,violent retard!
You must understand that Belarus and to a lesser extent Ukraine are still closed societies.It is beyond the understanding of an odinary person there to think like most westerns do.
Look,ask someone from China whether he considers a mulatto of chinese and african blood to be chinese or not!
He may speak Chinese fluently,have chinese blood in his body,and he is as much chinese inside his brain as any other chinese.Nevertheless,you probably know the answer of your own question. The situation is a little bit similar both in Belarus and Ukraine.
There are a lot of people of mixed blood in the countries of the former soviet union,but black blood is a different matter.
By the way you should read a little bit about Pushkin!
southpawslick
11-07-2008, 07:58 PM
I'd change his last name as well. Mateo Cordoba.
He'd be the next ODLH with that name!
avk47
11-08-2008, 01:53 AM
Sillahk? I had the pleasure to watch his last outing to a ring live in Germany's capital Berlin. Sillakh fought on the undercard of Vitaly vs Sam Peter.
Ukranian? Tough question.
I dont know. Malik Dziarra is a German based Belarussian whose father stems from Africa as well. Is Malik Dziarra Belarussian??
Really tough question! He grew up in Belarus,he speaks Russian(+Belarussian?),speaks German with a Russian accent,got his education there,and so on.
Is he Belarussian? Honestly,I dont know. He is probably more Belarussian than African.Thats for sure!
Most Belarussians probably dont consider him to be Belarussian,violent retard!
You must understand that Belarus and to a lesser extent Ukraine are still closed societies.It is beyond the understanding of an odinary person there to think like most westerns do.
Look,ask someone from China whether he considers a mulatto of chinese and african blood to be chinese or not!
He may speak Chinese fluently,have chinese blood in his body,and he is as much chinese inside his brain as any other chinese.Nevertheless,you probably know the answer of your own question. The situation is a little bit similar both in Belarus and Ukraine.
There are a lot of people of mixed blood in the countries of the former soviet union,but black blood is a different matter.
By the way you should read a little bit about Pushkin!
It's always like that with half-bloods, and they pretty much always chose a half to stick to. It's very rare for someone to have double identity.
My personal view: if Silakh, given his ancestry and upbringing considers himself Ukrainian, then he is Ukrainian. I mean, Africa is hardly the guys home. It's like that song 's chego nachinayetsya rodina...", (where does your motherland start), and it basically describes the songs your mother sang you, the pictures in your childrens books, the local road etc. It has a good point in my view. Silakh represented his country on the highest level in sport and continues to do so today. He is Ukrainian. Just like Pushkin is a Russian author. I can hardly be racist against the greatest poet of the Russian language and someone who himself has influenced the culture of the country.
Say a pure-blood (if that exists) Russian immigrant child is born in another country, and raised there in completely that country's culture. Speaks their language even at home, gets no Russian culture at all, mingles only with natives of that country. It would be idiotic to claim that guy as Russian, even though his 'blood' is Russian. It's not like you have a genetic predisposition to be Russian. When they talk about blood of a certain nationality, it's really just the cultural+linguistic+world view+psychological ties to your parents. If your parents don't pass that on at all, than it's a non-existant point. On the other hand, I recently worked with a fourth generation descendant of Russian immigrants to France, from the pre-revolution aristocracy. He considers himself Russian even though he was born in France and so was his dad. But they didn't mix, he is culturally, linguistically etc. more Russian than 99% of the population in the country. He speaks the language the way it should be spoken, not the degeneracy that is developing in Russia right now. What nationality is he?
That said, people in Eastern Europe are racist. Many would claim Silakh as their own when he's winning and regard him as foreign in a pretty racist way if he stops.
southpawslick
11-08-2008, 09:45 AM
I can simplify this matter. Slavs are not Black! With the possible exception of Ghetto whopper/Kenmore :hey
:rofl :rofl :rofl
avk47
11-08-2008, 10:34 AM
I can simplify this matter. Slavs are not Black! With the possible exception of Ghetto whopper/Kenmore :hey Sillahk may be a citizen of Ukraine who holds the requsite passport but he is not Ukrainian.
I believe Sillahk is currently based out of the U.S? If the situation concerned being American as opposed to Ukrainian then I would say Yes; Sillahk would be considered American. Americans can be a hodge-podge of ethnic extremes, not unlike your prior example of being a "Soviet" citizen. However specific ethnicities, many carved from larger population(s) {Ukrainians from Eastern Slavic Tribes} have deep rooted cultural and even biological/physiologic structure that precludes a large influx of Sub Saharan bloodline(s).
On a lighter note; Why is Sillahk bothering with boxing? He seems to be perfectly qualified for a far more lucrative and powerfull position.
Let's note his qualifications.
* Has an African father
*Born on foreign soil
*No authentic birth certificate
*No executive experience
*Limited knowledge of American history
YOU GUESSED IT!
PRESIDENT SILLAHK
:lol: Where did you get that info from? I always thought he was born in and raised in Ukraine.
No, Slav's are not black, but who says he's a slav. A slav is not the same thing as a Ukrainian. And he is half slavic..
Artani
11-10-2008, 04:21 AM
:lol: Where did you get that info from? I always thought he was born in and raised in Ukraine.
No, Slav's are not black, but who says he's a slav. A slav is not the same thing as a Ukrainian. And he is half slavic..
In this time everythink can be happen, they have also black jewish and one day we can have also one black sllav.....
avk47
11-10-2008, 11:29 AM
In this time everythink can be happen, they have also black jewish and one day we can have also one black sllav.....
No, you can't get a black Slav! Slavs are an ethnic group with certain phsycial characteristics that are pretty easy to observe. Black skin is not one of them. It is not a nationality.
Kolya
11-10-2008, 11:51 AM
No, you can't get a black Slav! Slavs are an ethnic group with certain phsycial characteristics that are pretty easy to observe. Black skin is not one of them. It is not a nationality.
Being very white seems to be one of the characteristics of most Slavs I meet. :lol:
In this time everythink can be happen, they have also black jewish and one day we can have also one black sllav.....
:lol: You know the difference between a religion and an ethnicity?
avk47
11-10-2008, 02:00 PM
:lol: You know the difference between a religion and an ethnicity?
Well, you do get Albino black guys :lol: .
I can simplify this matter. Slavs are not Black! With the possible exception of Ghetto whopper/Kenmore :hey Sillahk may be a citizen of Ukraine who holds the requsite passport but he is not Ukrainian.
I believe Sillahk is currently based out of the U.S? If the situation concerned being American as opposed to Ukrainian then I would say Yes; Sillahk would be considered American. Americans can be a hodge-podge of ethnic extremes, not unlike your prior example of being a "Soviet" citizen. However specific ethnicities, many carved from larger population(s) {Ukrainians from Eastern Slavic Tribes} have deep rooted cultural and even biological/physiologic structure that precludes a large influx of Sub Saharan bloodline(s).
On a lighter note; Why is Sillahk bothering with boxing? He seems to be perfectly qualified for a far more lucrative and powerfull position.
Let's note his qualifications.
* Has an African father
*Born on foreign soil
*No authentic birth certificate
*No executive experience
*Limited knowledge of American history
YOU GUESSED IT!
PRESIDENT SILLAHK
:lol: Sillakh for president. Well,I certainly prefer watching him do his job inside the ring. He is a classy fighter who will go very far in the paid ranks whether he calls himself a black, a Ukranian,or a Martian.
It's always like that with half-bloods, and they pretty much always chose a half to stick to. It's very rare for someone to have double identity.
My personal view: if Silakh, given his ancestry and upbringing considers himself Ukrainian, then he is Ukrainian. I mean, Africa is hardly the guys home. It's like that song 's chego nachinayetsya rodina...", (where does your motherland start), and it basically describes the songs your mother sang you, the pictures in your childrens books, the local road etc. It has a good point in my view. Silakh represented his country on the highest level in sport and continues to do so today. He is Ukrainian. Just like Pushkin is a Russian author. I can hardly be racist against the greatest poet of the Russian language and someone who himself has influenced the culture of the country.
Say a pure-blood (if that exists) Russian immigrant child is born in another country, and raised there in completely that country's culture. Speaks their language even at home, gets no Russian culture at all, mingles only with natives of that country. It would be idiotic to claim that guy as Russian, even though his 'blood' is Russian. It's not like you have a genetic predisposition to be Russian. When they talk about blood of a certain nationality, it's really just the cultural+linguistic+world view+psychological ties to your parents. If your parents don't pass that on at all, than it's a non-existant point. On the other hand, I recently worked with a fourth generation descendant of Russian immigrants to France, from the pre-revolution aristocracy. He considers himself Russian even though he was born in France and so was his dad. But they didn't mix, he is culturally, linguistically etc. more Russian than 99% of the population in the country. He speaks the language the way it should be spoken, not the degeneracy that is developing in Russia right now. What nationality is he?
That said, people in Eastern Europe are racist. Many would claim Silakh as their own when he's winning and regard him as foreign in a pretty racist way if he stops.
People are racist everywhere,avk! Wherever you live you will encounter a certain form of rascism in case you are an half-blood.
At least there are no race riots with hundreds of killed persons every year in most parts of the world as can be seen in in the ****stani city of Karachi.Members of all the different ethnic groups kill each other there because of their skin colour.
Whoever Sillahk is, he for sure is a classy fighter with a great potential to go very far in the paid ranks.
Difficult to imagine a black half-blood to sing this song though.:D
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znaak
12-21-2008, 11:02 AM
Anyone seen his second fight? Can't find it on YouTube...
lefty
12-24-2008, 04:24 AM
Anyone seen his second fight? Can't find it on YouTube...
Same, also Demetrius Andrades 2nd fight
Artani
12-25-2008, 03:41 AM
Same, also Demetrius Andrades 2nd fight
Its that you Joe ...
lefty
12-25-2008, 09:37 PM
Its that you Joe ...
I do not understand?
rumour24tiger
12-26-2008, 08:38 AM
Let's forget the race stuff and just talk about the fights, eh?
dabox
01-03-2009, 01:55 PM
hmm a lot of people don't seem to understand that in soviet times everyone mixed quite a lot and russians,Belorussians,Ukrainians are all the same people in reallity....
not just because they speak russians but because they have same roots...
the first russian state was Kievan Rus.....
kiev was the first capital of the first russian state,
usually when people look so alike there is a reason and the reason is that they have the same roots in race and culture...
i was born in soviet union too and here is a good link
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znaak
01-26-2009, 03:13 PM
Oh man! :love
I still haven't seen his second fight...
avk47
01-26-2009, 06:02 PM
Oh man! :love
I still haven't seen his second fight...
I know. Watching him box is just awesome. I was so gutted for him in the olympics. Wish I could box half as good as him.
Mendoza
01-26-2009, 07:25 PM
3rd fight
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Coming along just nicely.
Holy cow this guy has amazing speed, amazing skills, and power in both mits.
I am so glad Korbov went pro. He will be a future champion, and possible top p4p fighter.
avk47
01-27-2009, 03:21 AM
MATEO DE LA KOROBOVA! :yep:yep:yep
Its, Mateo CORDOBA!
znaak
01-27-2009, 05:05 PM
I know. Watching him box is just awesome. I was so gutted for him in the olympics. Wish I could box half as good as him.
Loved him in the amateurs. I've been looking up to him, so it was very disappointning to see him lose in the Olympics. Well, at least he said that it was his greatest learning experience.
PaddyD1983
01-29-2009, 10:24 AM
Seen this kid on the Marg v Mosely undercard. Very impressive. I'd heard that he had a conditioning problem but he looked in good shape during this. Definitely one to watch
alex paterson
02-22-2009, 10:12 AM
Korobov is a realy good boxer didnt look 2 impressive against Jones last night but still won every round and finished him with a brilliant right hand
hope to c him and DeGale or Sutherland in the ring together sometime .
speedmaster
02-22-2009, 02:55 PM
Does u-tube have his last fight and if so could someone post it.This guy has loads of talent and has a crowd pleasing style that will take him far as long as his chin is solid and has no stamina issues.It seems that the best young fighters are coming from Europe lately,whats the deal with that.
Mendoza
02-23-2009, 07:57 PM
I wish Mateo :hey all the best but he seems to light in the ass(small) for Middleweight. His power will not carry him so I hope like hell he develop's crafty defense and strong conditioning. We all know how well he can box!
I think Korobov is a little small for a modern 160 pound middle weight, who as we all know fight around 170-175 ( light heavy ) on fight night.
Perhaps jr middle would be ideal for Korobov. Then again, his skills are amazing. That alone could win him the title at middle weight.
znaak
02-24-2009, 11:43 AM
Was a bit disappointet with his last fight, but I really liked that he kept his cool and got an absolute awesome ending. What a punch!
And did he really have 310 amateur fights, with only 10 losses? :scaredas:
Bigcat
02-24-2009, 12:53 PM
I love his style, i have taken in all of his fights live to date and the KO that came with 2 seconds left was great , it shows you that Ko's come even when you really dont go running after them.. The Ko came naturally by being patient.....
dominic1234
05-04-2009, 11:38 AM
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znaak
05-04-2009, 03:46 PM
Only one word to describe his boxing in that fight: perfect.
avk47
05-04-2009, 04:21 PM
Yep. The smoothest I've seen him box in the pros! Enjoyed watching it. Znaak, when you turn pro, will you be a middleweight as well ;)?
znaak
05-04-2009, 04:25 PM
Damn, I'm a light heavy now. I'm still getting bigger, but I'd imagine I'd stay at light heavy if I turned pro.
Kolya
05-04-2009, 04:48 PM
HBO's commentators were all over Korobov's nuts during his fight. :D
Yeah, in fact too much cheerleading for my taste, especially considering who he was fighting. But, well, HBO is not above hyping guys like Arreola, Korobov at least has the potential to deserve it. :yep
avk47
05-04-2009, 06:09 PM
HBO's commentators were all over Korobov's nuts during his fight. :D
Who were those guys? I noticed the same thing!
dominic1234
05-04-2009, 06:20 PM
Jim Lampley and Emanuel Steward(Wladimir Klitschko's current trainer)
avk47
05-04-2009, 06:22 PM
I thought it sounded like Steward! Surprised he's being so full of praise for him, given that he doesn't train him, but then Korobov is a brillian prospect. Hope he keeps it together at the top level.
Kolya
05-04-2009, 11:08 PM
I have been complaining that I think Korobov has a small frame for Middleweight. He is certainly not a big middleweight but porcupine head Lampley was saying that Korobov was huge for Middleweight and would probably end up at Lighthweavyweight.
Regardless: Korobov is awesome to watch apply his craft.
He is rather thickly muscled though.
avk47
05-05-2009, 04:03 AM
I wouldn't call him small for a middleweight, he's pretty thickly muscled and 180cm tall, which is, what, 6'0 or a little under? He doesn't exactly have a tall guys style, and can mix it up on the inside. I don't see a size problem there.
Kolya
05-05-2009, 12:50 PM
It's funny, a guy I was talking to at the gym I work at today who watched the PPV asked me if I had seen Korobov and was all excited about him. And this is a casual fan, mind you.
pathmanc1986
05-05-2009, 02:46 PM
big up korobov from ireland
saw him fight a couple of times but properly on saturday and hes possibly the best of all the am's in the world that have just turned pro with convincing arguments from darren sutherland of ireland and frank gavin of england
watched with non boxing fans and they were going oooooohhhh and ahhhhh at his punches. lucky for me i told them at the start of the night look out for this guy which made me look good
hes a certain world champ and hes the pefect size for a middleweight who in 4/5 years will be a super middle
TommyV
05-07-2009, 01:41 PM
He was fucking awesome in the Hatton-Pac bill.
He showed a bit of everything.
Vysotsky
08-05-2010, 12:26 AM
I think the Anglicizing of his name to "Matt" is great. It will make him more appealing to American redneck fans. Povetkin should do the same thing and call himself "Al." After all, American rednecks are a big part of the American sporting audience.
I am curious as to what Korobov's ethnic background is. I doubt that he is fully Russian. Is he Tartar?
Fuck that!! I can't stand hearing him called Matt
His father is Russian and his Mother is Ukrainian. His fiance is also Ukrainian.
No, you can't get a black Slav! Slavs are an ethnic group with certain phsycial characteristics that are pretty easy to observe. Black skin is not one of them. It is not a nationality.
agreed.
:lol: Sillakh for president. Well,I certainly prefer watching him do his job inside the ring. He is a classy fighter who will go very far in the paid ranks whether he calls himself a black, a Ukranian,or a Martian.
Interviews and video iv seen with Sillakh outside of the ring he dresses and acts "black" like in American black rap culture and seems to be embracing America and that sort of thing.
hmm a lot of people don't seem to understand that in soviet times everyone mixed quite a lot and russians,Belorussians,Ukrainians are all the same people in reallity....
not just because they speak russians but because they have same roots...
the first russian state was Kievan Rus.....
kiev was the first capital of the first russian state,
usually when people look so alike there is a reason and the reason is that they have the same roots in race and culture...
i was born in soviet union too and here is a good link
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Kiev...Russian state? You are right about them having a start in the same state, Russia is Ukraine's little brother. :D
Anyways the reason i bumped the thread was that some people seem to be less enthusiastic about Matvey now. I personally don't think he's had any terrible performances aside from getting tired vs Snyder and eating a few right hands, seems like people expect him to not get hit at all.
I came across this information and found it really interesting, cut/paste job
From Doghouse boxing's Gabriel Montoya
I spoke with Korobov’s manager Cameron Dunkin and he told me that Matt has been suffering from a deviated septum for…get this…the last five years. No one could figure out what was wrong with him. Not his new trainer, Kenny Adams, who says he is making great progress in the Americanization of his style (read: adding some much-needed funk to his game), nor Dunkin.
Adams wondered if he was nervous and thus gassing out? “No,” said Korobov
It certainly wasn’t a training issue as Korobov eats well, sleeps like a champ, and works out like crazy. He lives an incredibly Spartan lifestyle, as it turns out
In his last fight, against Josh Snyder in April, Korobov went the distance and was pretty gassed out by the second. But as it turns out, both nasal passages are pretty damaged from a long amateur career. So he is to have corrective surgery; a simple procedure that should have him up and about in no time. He’ll need some three-to-five weeks recovery time, but will be able to keep conditioning and then sparring can begin shortly thereafter, provided all goes well. They hope to have him up and fighting by late-July
According to Dunkin and Adams, they are on course for a busy close to the year and should have Korobov well positioned to begin a serious run at things by the beginning of next year"
Aside from the surgery i wanted to comment on the "adding some needed funk" remark. I'm always skeptical and nervous when Eastern European fighters hook up with other trainers. That is the biggest worry i have concerning Korobov's career.
Nosbor
08-05-2010, 08:12 PM
Welcome to the thread Vysotsky! I always appreciate your contributions. The information you just provided about Matvey (screw the Matt B.S.) was informative and made perfect sense. Especially the issue with his septum. That explains much because he even appeared to have trouble with the pace in the second and third rounds, when he faded against Artayev in the Olymics.
It is also sad to hear that Silakh is acting all ghetto and crap. He probably got the marching orders from some PR agent knowing full well that the U.S. media will eat it up. Mark my workds this will be the case. The U.S. media hates the typical image of a stoic, hard looking Eastern European who talks via action instead of his mouth. A half Black, rapping Ukrainian who is enamored with American ghetto culture will be their perfect foil for their continuing assault against the traditional Eastern European male image.
Nonameboy
08-06-2010, 11:29 AM
I havent heard any news on Korobov?
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