Big trouble at the gym - advices please.

[The Predator]

If you where a trainer and was in charge of a group of boxers, what would you do if this would happen to you?
1. Some older trainer tries to take over and run the show even if he has
his own group.
2. You put up your own groups trainingprogram but still mr old guy
wants to try to change it cause it´s not like he did it in the 60´s
3. Mr old guy asks you to help him a little with his group and you really
do that but let him run how he want´s it cause it´s his group, then
suddenly he take in someone else to help him that he knew from
before. (I don´t mind this cause it gives me more time to work on my
own group.) But I think it is a bad way doing it without even telling me.
4. Mr old guy complain to you about another trainer at the gym that he
does it all wrong.
5. Mr old guy want´s my group and the other trainers group to train
together sfter his program and if that won´t happen he´s being angry. I and the other
trainer has different ways of trainingschedules, even different round
lenght´s.

My group have done well and even reached the national team, so the things we are doing works.

How would you deal with a problem like this? Stay in there or leave the place and open your own.
I´m so tired of this.
Look forward to your ideas and thought´s
All the best
The Predator

[znaak]

Confront the old guy and tell it like it is, and that it has to stop.

[BRICKS]

if you get results from what you do then let it be known. if he has a problem with how your running YOUR group then thats HIS problem. everyone is different and should be treated and handled accordingly.

[murphyx500]

ask your group what they think of his attitude and so on, and ask them which type of training they would prefer. obviously what you are doing works so if there is friction with this other guy it maybe the best decision to leave, as you don't want your quarrels with him to affect your group.

I don't know how practical or easy it would be for you to leave and set up somewhere else, but sometimes you've got to bite the bullet and go for it.

[RDJ]

A swift left hook to the chin solves all your problems.

[murphyx500]

I'd like to add that before you do anything drastic, you should talk to this other guy, in a non confrontational way, point out that the way you do things has given good results and you feel he is encroaching on you. if he is a good bloke who wants what's best for the boxers/gym, he will realise his mistake, but if he just wants to be controlling to boost his ego, as I suspect, but that is my personal opinion based on what I've read, then you should consider what I said in my earlier post.

[The Predator]

Thanks for your advices my friends. I have tried to talk to him and he says that he won´t interfer, but still continues to do it.
I´m sick and tired of it!
He wants everyone to do everything together as long as it is his way.
This is not my way of doing it. I think you have to listen to others but if you are in charge of a group in the end you decide how it should be done for that particular group. If it don´t gives result then you can change the trainer but if it gives result then you should not interfer.
I´m very grateful for your advices and it helps me to make a decision.
All the best my friends
The Predator

[tommy the hat]

Mr. Old guy needs to be told to cut the shit. He is breaking one of the cardinal rules of boxing. You don't fuck with another trainers fighters.It does nothing but hurt the fighter, because if he is being told two different things from two different trainers he will only get confused and get himself hurt in the ring. If I was the other trainer I would tell Mr. Old Guy just what I posted, not nastily, but in a calm and educating matter. I would certainly tell him of the results you have produced as a trainer and the success your boxers have had. This should shut him up because it is hard to agrue against success and what has proved to be a winning formula.But if he doesn't listen and I happen to run the gym as well, he is gone. If you don't run the gym talk to the guy who does. He knows you are a good trainer because he sees the results you have gotten, so he could put a stop to it.

[The Predator]

Tommy the hat.

I have to thank you for what you said, This is my opinion as well. I just wish I was the one who owned the gym, but I will try to stand up to him and I have to do it for my fighters.
Thanks once again.
All the best
the predator

[GEB]

I would say just be staight foward with the guy, not accusing or out of line. And try and communucate what is going on, see if he can compromise. And tell him you need him to respect your schedule, and yo'll respect his. If he ignores you point out, and make him aware of it so he know's what's going on.

[xoum]

tommy the hat has great advice i would go with his approach, first reason with the old guy, if he doesnt change, tell your boxers to ignore him, then go speak to the gym owner about this, work out a strategy to get him out, end of the day your boxers will suffer the consequences, youve got a winning formula and this guy has what? nothing... if the gym owner is smart he will side with you...

[dwilson]

Put him in a bin then roll him down an hill.

[TommyV]

A swift left hook to the chin solves all your problems.

:lol:

[boxbible]

Start interfering with his boxers... then when he complains, let him know that you're only copying what he is doing... maybe then, it'll sink in...

[PaddyD1983]

Firstly I am not, nor ever have been a trainer so take this with a pinch of salt...

But bear in mind why you are there? To get the best out of your boxers. If your methods are working then point out to the old fella that your boxers are doing just fine on your plan.

If that doesnt work, humour him and do your own thing anyway. Tends to work with some old time bosses where I've worked in the past!

[The Predator]

Thanks for all advices my friends. I tried some of them, however not the swift left hook, he doesn´t get it so far, but I give it this year otherwise I have to leave and I´ll take my fighters with me, then I gonna try that swift left hook, that´s for sure.
All the best
The Predator

[Lostmykeys]

Is this a fucking boxing club or a club for knitting.

Jesus.

[detached909]

Just reading this... I'm a fighter caught up in this whole sort of mess. From a fighters standpoint it gets annoying. I like my main coach. We have been together for a while and have won all of our fights together. I had a similar situation 2-3 months ago. Now 1st as a fighter u wanna make sure u are respectful to ALL coaches that are apart of your gym. With that having being said as a fighter it is MY choice who I train with. Just cause a guy comes over and says "hey i have a way to make ur jab faster" does NOT mean i have to go with the guy. Next if your fighters are old enough to know what they want outta this sport they need to have the nerve to say "i'm good man my coach & I already worked on that". The fighter has to stand up for himself @ some point. Now if there are kids envolved then as their coach you should say hey man give my fighter some space. Let Him/Her and the parents make a choice. I'm turning pro next year & dont have time to play those trainer games. Stand up for your guys!! "Jab First... Jab often".

[The Predator]

detached909,
You have very good points here and I gonna follow them.
All the best
the Predator

[brown bomber]

Upload child porn to his laptop.... report him to the police. Problem dissapears. :good