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la-califa
11-03-2008, 12:22 PM
Prime for Prime: Cooney who just destroyed Ken Norton in one round. Against the Morrison who Defeated George Foreman in a suprising decision win. 12 Rounds.

clark
11-03-2008, 02:24 PM
Morrison ran from George. Against Cooney, Morrison might decide to trade and be KO'd. Cooney stops Morrison inside of 3 rounds.

shavers
11-03-2008, 02:30 PM
Cooney by brutal ko in the second.

heehoo
11-03-2008, 03:32 PM
Cooney KO 1.

Tommy's glass jaw would be the reason why.

Charles White
11-03-2008, 03:32 PM
Cooney by ko in the middle rounds.

Bill1234
11-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Cooney KO 1. They both go out for blood, but Cooney's better power and chin (I feel he has the slight edge in chin) win him the early fireworks, and get him the KO.

guncho
11-03-2008, 07:48 PM
Cooney would take this fight! he is better overall fighter I think!

guncho
11-03-2008, 07:50 PM
The question is who had better left hook? And I could go with Morrison!

But to me Morrison's stamina problems and weak chin would be his downfall against Cooney! Who I believe had solid chin and better stamina!

SteveO
11-03-2008, 07:59 PM
I'll pick Cooney by late KO.

I could see them going back in forth in a decent fight before Tommy collects a nice chinner.

Rubber Warrior
11-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Cooney. Tougher, better skilled and more apt to hammer Morrison early.

Curtis Lowe
11-04-2008, 12:09 PM
I also go with Cooney, mainly due to Gerry's size advantage. I think he would be able to reach Morrison much more than Morrison would be able to reach him. Would go about 3 rounds I suppose.

I wonder both might have done if they would have had better trainers early in their careers.

clark
11-04-2008, 03:03 PM
Cooney easily has the better left. No comparison.

Russell
11-04-2008, 03:39 PM
Could go either way.

Morrison had a beatiful leaping left hook. Good enough to land on the 6'6 Jaco in a one punch KO knockout, one of the most devestating you'll ever see.

Obviously Jaco's no Cooney, but he could leap in there with it with amazing accuracy.

Muchmoore
11-04-2008, 04:02 PM
Could go either way.

Morrison had a beatiful leaping left hook. Good enough to land on the 6'6 Jaco in a one punch KO knockout, one of the most devestating you'll ever see.

Obviously Jaco's no Cooney, but he could leap in there with it with amazing accuracy.

Yeah, Tommy's left hook was as good as anyones. The speed/power of it was amazing.

That being said, Morrison didn't have much else, and the more durable Cooney takes him out early in a slugfest.

MRBILL
11-05-2008, 02:19 AM
I'll pick the '81 Cooney to KO the '91 Morrison......... It's close... STILL! Cooney with his height and hook in 1981 was dangerous.... My guess is, Morrison freezes against the taller Cooney........ Morrison only looked great in 1993 against an OLD and SLOW George Foreman...... Back in 1981, Cooney was quicker and younger.......... Peace....

MR.BILL:rasta

fists of fury
11-05-2008, 03:39 AM
Yeah, Tommy's left hook was as good as anyones. The speed/power of it was amazing.

That being said, Morrison didn't have much else,

I think he did. He had underrated boxing skills. I'm not so sure this would be the blowout for Cooney many are predicting.

Morrison did have dodgy stamina and suspect whiskers no doubt and that cost him dearly, but for 4-5 rounds he was pretty dangerous.

Rico Spadafora
11-05-2008, 05:19 PM
I would probably go with Cooney because of the height and reach advantage.

Muchmoore
11-05-2008, 05:43 PM
I think he did. He had underrated boxing skills. I'm not so sure this would be the blowout for Cooney many are predicting.

Morrison did have dodgy stamina and suspect whiskers no doubt and that cost him dearly, but for 4-5 rounds he was pretty dangerous.

He had under rated boxing skills when he chose to use them like in the Foreman fight. Most of the time he was pretty crude.

Russell
11-06-2008, 07:19 AM
Even if Morrison did taste the canvas, people act like he couldn't get off it to win.

He made a career out of it! :lol:

mr. magoo
11-06-2008, 03:11 PM
Anything can happen when two fast-starting punchers with limited durabilty get together in the ring. I am inclined however to thinking that Cooney should be very heavily favored in this match. Morrison never faired well against most people were even just a tad above average, and his chin along with tendencies to get floored, showed regulary. Sure, Cooney never really proved himself against an elite group either, but going 13 rounds with a peak Holmes, is at least a testiment to some degree of durability and endurance. Morrison often got in trouble early against men who could bang, and outside of perhaps Lennox Lewis, I really can't think of anyone else who he faced that had a better offense than Cooney.

Gerry by TKO inside of 3.

mr. magoo
11-06-2008, 03:14 PM
Even if Morrison did taste the canvas, people act like he couldn't get off it to win.

He made a career out of it! :lol:

True Russell, true.

However, it was the PEOPLE he was floored BY, that makes one wonder. I can remember him nearly losing to a very diminished Carl Williams, as well as being KO'd in one by a novice in Michael Bent. He was also dropped twice by journeyman Purity and suffered a broken jaw against Joe Hipp. Morrison certainly showed heart in some of these fights, but his fragility and limited skill was also exposed at the same time. Most prime fighters who were worth anything would have had my vote to beat Tommy Morrison.

Russell
11-06-2008, 07:48 PM
Good points, good points.

Morrison broke both his hands against Hipp, so I really don't fault him for performing that way regardless. Hipp was somewhat of a spoiler regardless, and could make certain fighters or fights in general look poor. Not to mention Morrison stretched him out anyway... He's as far as I know the only person ever to really KO Hipp, that ungodly tough bastard.

Bentt blitzed him and took him out in one round, yeah. But we never saw that degree of frailty again. He took some monster shots from Lennox before going down, and took monster shots from Foreman WITHOUT going down.

I think he was caught cold more then anything. His chin was mediocre, but a similar incident never happened several times before and afterwords, against legitimate good punchers. So...

papke26
11-06-2008, 08:29 PM
Tommy morrison was a bonifide bad-ass, he fought with a hellacious intensity that marked him [for me anyhow] as the most exciting fighter of the 90's.

I think in this though, he would be facing a guy simply to big and strong for him, like when he boxed lennox lewis. Cooney was slow and awkward but he wasn't glass jawed, he took a load of holmes punches he had a reasonable beard in my book.

I think the fight would swing in gerry's way because of one reason, they both favour the left hook. When two left hooker's meet, they tend to get in exchange's just throwing that punch.

So i think when they did, cooney's height and reach would mean he would catch the duke more often, thus he may ko morrison. i'd say cooney 7 rounds.

anut
11-06-2008, 09:48 PM
cooney

MRBILL
11-06-2008, 10:17 PM
If and when Cooney dropped a melon-farmer, Cooney always stopped the dude..... Nobody ever got up from the floor to roar back to beat or KO Cooney boy...... Cooney only lost to folks he couldn't hurt or hit.... Larry Holmes was hurt to the balls.... Michael Spinks was stunned by ONE left-hook from Cooney.... George Foreman was rocked by a hook shot in round one, but absorbed the shot well.... Peace...

MR.BILL

papke26
11-07-2008, 05:26 AM
If and when Cooney dropped a melon-farmer, Cooney always stopped the dude..... Nobody ever got up from the floor to roar back to beat or KO Cooney boy...... Cooney only lost to folks he couldn't hurt or hit.... Larry Holmes was hurt to the balls.... Michael Spinks was stunned by ONE left-hook from Cooney.... George Foreman was rocked by a hook shot in round one, but absorbed the shot well.... Peace...

MR.BILL

That's so right, i believe that cooney was the biggest wasted talent in heavyweight history.

Gill clancy said in - in [in this corner] a great book on pro trainer's, Cooney "definitely, would of been world champ if he had trained him"
He dercribed his size and natural talent and said the guy had it. Ray arcel said the same, Cooney was a real wasted talent.

I think the reason he didn't make it was his race, they was so intent on getting a white champion they didn't guide him to the title like he should of been.

When he fought holmes he hadn't been above 8 round's and his gormless handler's put him in a 15 round title fight, wtf? He needed guy's like randell tex cobb etc as two build up fight's to get the rounds in, but the avidious bastard's just wanted money.

BIG DEE
11-09-2008, 12:44 AM
BIG DEE HERE= Cooney was a wicked puncher up to the Norton fight in which he almost killed Kenny Norton. After that fight he never punched through his opponent again as he just punched to him. Minutes after the Norton fight my phone rang in California and it was my father. The fist words out of his mouth was Cooney will never be the same fighter and I asked him why he said that. He replied Cooney is too nice a guy and he just about killed Norton tonight. Dad said Cooney will never hit anybody like that again and will take an ass-whipping to keep from hitting another guy like that again.
He was right as he always punched to the guy and never through the guy
for the rest of his career. Early Cooney wins this one by KO in 3 to 4 rds.
Later Cooney post Norton he gets his ass KOed by Morrison unless he gets really lucky with a helluva punch.

MRBILL
11-09-2008, 02:10 AM
In truth, Cooney's management was NOT good in guiding a fighter and his career......... "Jones & Rappaport" were only good in HYPING up their boy (Cooney) for public exposure.... WELL! That doesn't mean a guy can really fight.... Cooney was bullshitted by his crew and spoon fed bums, stiffs & old farts to feed on..... In the end, it costed him dearly against Larry Holmes in 1982.... HOWEVER! Despite the rust and inactivity, Cooney fought a damn good fight against Holmes.....

MR.BILL

MRBILL
11-09-2008, 02:13 AM
Victor Valle was a fine trainer and father figure for Gerry Cooney..... NO DOUBT! But, Valle was not the manager, and Gerry Cooney was not a child... Victor Valle knew what a fighter needed to do in order to win and be successful..... BUT! It takes a "Combined" effort..........

MR.BILL

ljj
11-23-2008, 07:53 AM
Cooney within 2 rounds too much power!