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AJAX
11-03-2008, 06:46 PM
What a dink, he's fined 1 third of his purse and suspended 9 monthes.Stanozolol was his drug of choice. it was obvious his body had a major change in it, he was ripped like he was never before, and the roids were to thank for that. I'm just glad he didn't win the fight.

chuffy
11-03-2008, 06:50 PM
What a dink, he's fined 1 third of his purse and suspended 9 monthes.Stanozolol was his drug of choice. it was obvious his body had a major change in it, he was ripped like he was never before, and the roids were to thank for that. I'm just glad he didn't win the fight.

:-(

ufoalf
11-03-2008, 06:57 PM
Yea, it was quite visible.

sugarngold
11-03-2008, 07:40 PM
Ah, Leben - not so mature after all?

What a dumbass. Good way to kill his career unless he follows the old "I didn't know what was in that milkshake/needle" tale.

Tko4
11-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Funny what roids do to the human body. He looked absolutely jacked for that fight.

rydersonthestorm
11-03-2008, 07:53 PM
Stupid move perhpas bisping might have koed him if he wasn't roided.

JLightningFys
11-03-2008, 09:32 PM
I knew it was something.

J_Roth
11-03-2008, 09:37 PM
Pretty obvious. Too bad he resorted to that shit.

Half-Dane
11-03-2008, 10:17 PM
Leben was a joke in TUF but had some potential, now he's just a joke

Beebs
11-03-2008, 10:23 PM
One very good sign, it wasn't even an Athletic commission that tested for and caught it, as there is none for MMA in the UK, it was the promotion testing their own despite not being legally required too, that is a step forward.

jimmie
11-03-2008, 10:44 PM
I was thinking that during the fight but oh well tons of guys are doing it and they are always losing so hopefully people will just get it through their heads that it isnt working and stop abusing there bodies.

achillesthegreat
11-04-2008, 04:25 AM
I think it makes it a better win for Bisping.

dwilson
11-04-2008, 05:55 AM
Fucking tard. Leban had got himself in a good place in the UFC. Dana seems to like putting him on shows and the fans like him.

chuffy
11-04-2008, 06:29 AM
I think it makes it a better win for Bisping.

I agree..

scurlaruntings
11-04-2008, 08:31 AM
Funny what roids do to the human body. He looked absolutely jacked for that fight.Nope. Thats what happens when you augment your training WITH hormones. Hormones will make you perform twice as better physically, increase your musculature exponentially aswell as your recovery. For him to get caught on Stan means he`s an idiot. But hey we knew that already. Its piss easy to cycle on and off. Im surprised these clowns still get caught. Goes to show how little they really know. .. I did wonder why he looked more ripped than usual. Heres why..:lol:

scurlaruntings
11-04-2008, 08:32 AM
I was thinking that during the fight but oh well tons of guys are doing it and they are always losing so hopefully people will just get it through their heads that it isnt working and stop abusing there bodies.That wont ever happen. The steroid myth will never die. Its simply too easy.

Beebs
11-04-2008, 10:30 AM
Nope. Thats what happens when you augment your training WITH hormones. Hormones will make you perform twice as better physically, increase your musculature exponentially aswell as your recovery. For him to get caught on Stan means he`s an idiot. But hey we knew that already. Its piss easy to cycle on and off. Im surprised these clowns still get caught. Goes to show how little they really know. .. I did wonder why he looked more ripped than usual. Heres why..:lol:

This old myth that modern steroid testing is "piss easy" to pass is a joke. The testing is growing much faster than the doping. Its not a joke, it catches almost everything. What use can be done would have to be very small, very short, and with a select group of chemicals.

"oh they can just screen the drug tests" is no longer true, it just isn't and its growing old hearing it.

scurlaruntings
11-04-2008, 10:35 AM
It takes steroids less than a few days to completely aromatise and be gone from your system completely. In some cases it can be done in hours with masking agents. Welcome back from Oz.

Beebs
11-04-2008, 10:49 AM
It takes steroids less than a few days to completely aromatise and be gone from your system completely. In some cases it can be done in hours with masking agents. Welcome back from Oz.

None that people are using, and metabolites and ratios of hormones make almost any doping detectable. Masking agents set off the test.

Honestly, to think that its still easy to pass a modern doping test is laughable, just look at the amount of people still getting caught.

Leben said, and I think I believe him, that he stopped using months ago, and was still caught.

The amount of people getting caught simply says that it is not some easy to trick test anymore, you cannot effectively use steroids in a particuarly valuble way, as in high enough quantity, the drugs you want, and close enough to the fight and not get caught, this is not the early 90s.

Take one look at some athletes moving from non tested to tested organization, tell me testing doesn't work.

The half life itself is only 1 day for Stanazol, do you honestly believe Leben was taking winny right up to the fight with full knowledge that he would AUTOMATICALLY be tested? Main Events are always tested, you think he just forgot or what?

Modern doping tests are very very good.

Rico Spadafora
11-04-2008, 11:56 AM
it is almost common place for 1 fighter to fail a steroid test on an MMA card now. This is getting pathetic.

The Phenom
11-04-2008, 01:14 PM
One thing I noticed about him was that his voice had changed for some reason.Anyways he was clearly whipped in that fight by a decent but not great opponent.

Half-Dane
11-04-2008, 01:31 PM
leben fails drug test

No, Leben just fails!

The Phenom
11-04-2008, 01:55 PM
Leben sucks.

Machiavelli
11-04-2008, 02:09 PM
It takes steroids less than a few days to completely aromatise and be gone from your system completely. In some cases it can be done in hours with masking agents. Welcome back from Oz.

They don't just test for the hormones. They test for the metabolites, which, depending on the compound you take, can linger in your system for some time.

That's why that "designer" steroid that BALCO was putting out was beating so many tests. There's a ratio of these certain hormones in the body that taking AAS can alter, but the BALCO shit would bump up the metabolites as well, so the guy's ratio on the regular shit would be like 2:1, while the guy on the BALCO shit would still be 1:1 even though the absolute number of exogeneous hormones in the athletes would be the same.

Club Fighter
11-04-2008, 06:45 PM
I'm not really that disappointed. Looks like the drugs inhibited his ability to perform (n/h). Wasn't the same Leben in there. Bisping's a scumbag regardless.

SouthpawSlayer
11-05-2008, 06:35 AM
taking winstrol and he still got beat tut tut