Morales-PAC prime vs prime revisited

[Stinky gloves]

PAC best career wins were against Morales.
The important question now is where PAC stands
right now after Morales last lost and his career retirement.

Was PAC figting prime Morales in any fight or a faded or shot one?

In 6 latest fights Morales lost 5 times. Before PAC won first time
Morales had two loses vs Barrera and Raheeem and win over PAC.
So there can be some indication that even if the first fight with PAC
Morales was shot which was clearly ovious in the Raheeem fight.
From his point both TKO wins of PAC vs Morales may be not due
to improved PAC but because clearly faded Morales.

What do you guys think?

[PJ]

PAC best career wins were agianst Morales.
The important question now is where PAC stands
right now after Morales last lost and his career retirement.

Was PAC figting prime Morales in any fight or a faded or shot one?

In 6 latest fights Morales lost 5 times. Before PAC won first time
Morales had two loses vs Barrera and Raheeem and win over PAC.
So there can be some indication that even if the first fight with PAC
Morales was shot which was clearly ovious in the Raheeem fight.
From his point both TKO wins of PAC vs Morales may be not due
to improved PAC but because clearly faded Morales.

What do you guys think?


Last night was an indication.


Morales is a LEGEND!!!

[PATSYS]

Pac by KO.

[johnco]

PAC best career wins were agianst Morales.
The important question now is where PAC stands
right now after Morales last lost and his career retirement.

Was PAC figting prime Morales in any fight or a faded or shot one?

In 6 latest fights Morales lost 5 times. Before PAC won first time
Morales had two loses vs Barrera and Raheeem and win over PAC.
So there can be some indication that even if the first fight with PAC
Morales was shot which was clearly ovious in the Raheeem fight.
From his point both TKO wins of PAC vs Morales may be not due
to improved PAC but because clearly faded Morales.

What do you guys think?
em won the first fight due to head butt.
2nd and 3rd pacquiao dismantled morales like a lego.
the manner of beating is a catastropic one and WAS NEVER SEEN AND EXPERIENCED BEFORE BY MORALES AND PAC HATERS.
PACQUIAO MADE EM amateurish thats why lot of pac haters though em was faded.
pacquiao is just too good !!!! :good
REMEMBER WHAT HAPPENED TO PRIME MAB WHEN HE MET A GUY NAME PAC :yep:yep:yep:good:good:good:good

[Stinky gloves]

em won the first fight due to head butt.

Is that an official excuse for PAC lost in the first fight?

[johnco]

Is that an official excuse for PAC lost in the first fight?
yes stinky... he said he couldnt see em, so i take his words. look at 2nd and third fight. pac could see. and the rest is history :lol: pac backed his own words!! :good

[PATSYS]

I scored the 1st Pac-Em fight a draw-similar to how Larry Merchant scored it.

At any rate, most of those who scored for Morales had it a close fight, like 7-5 or something like that.

And Pac suffered a very nasty cut in that fight. Plus he was made to wear winning gloves which amny boxing experts call "pillow".

Nobody can deny that that cut affected Pac's performance.

And the gloves - you all saw what happened in the 2nd fight when Pac wore is preferred Reyes gloves. Even Morales believe it makes a difference, which was the reason he wore it in the 3rd fight.

[Boom_Boom]

PAC best career wins were against Morales.
The important question now is where PAC stands
right now after Morales last lost and his career retirement.

Was PAC figting prime Morales in any fight or a faded or shot one?

In 6 latest fights Morales lost 5 times. Before PAC won first time
Morales had two loses vs Barrera and Raheeem and win over PAC.
So there can be some indication that even if the first fight with PAC
Morales was shot which was clearly ovious in the Raheeem fight.
From his point both TKO wins of PAC vs Morales may be not due
to improved PAC but because clearly faded Morales.

What do you guys think?

dude what is your obsession with pacman....stfu

[Imperial1]

A prime Morales and a prime Manny fight to a bloody draw or a double KO !

[boxbox]

Morales in his prime would kill a one dimensional Pacquiao

yes but that 1 dimensional Pac wasnt in his prime...:yep

[johnco]

Morales in his prime would kill a one dimensional Pacquiao

but a 1 DIMENSIONAL PAC KILLED A PRIME MAB WHO DECISIONED EM :yep:yep

[jyuza]

I had the first Morales-Pacquiao fight 115-113 for Morales.
Scores may be close but it was a clear win for Morales.

[Galaxy]

Em's victory in their 1st fight cost Morales more than people think. if you look at the first fight closely you see that Morales took alot of hard shots from Pac.

people are a little emotional about erik right now, so theres ganna be some bias against Pac. I say we wait a few weeks then we can discuss this with clear heads.

[JMotrain]

Morales was not in prime when he beat Pac the first time. Prime for prime is a no-brainer, Morales would beat him.

[johnco]

Prime? he wasn't prime, you jerkoff and he also had two weeks taken off of his training camp.

dumb... excuses excuses. a 1-d pac whooped a prime mabs ass that is the truth. imagine if pac of today fight fight that prime mab? :lol::lol::hi:

[just-me]

Morales vs Pac - Prime 4 Prime.

Theres only one winner

El Terrible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Galaxy]

but whats the prime for pac? the pac who only threw 1-2s(Ledwaba/MAB/JMM fight) or the Pac who throws rights,goes to the body, make faints and moves side to side(EM2-3/Larios).

Prime for Prime cannot be made until Pacs career has ended. Em's has so we know his prime but not Pac's

[Morrissey]

dude what is your obsession with pacman....stfu

:lol:

He is actually obssessed with his fans, and he can't wait to see the hordes of fanatics scrambling their ways to his ultra-retarded, Pacman-headlined threads, and at that point, he would now come.

[DoumB]

I think prime for prime its a pick em fight with erik given the extra edge

[theunderdog]

holy freaking chist. stinky gloves with another thread about pac. wake me up, i must be dreaming.

[Stinky gloves]

:lol:

He is actually obssessed with his fans, and he can't wait to see the hordes of
fanatics scrambling their ways to his ultra-retarded, Pacman-headlined threads,
and at that point, he would now come.

Guys don't think too hard, get some sleep. For the clarification, I'm PAC fan too.:smooch

I like him to be true #1 p4p but right now some obstacles do not allow me to
put him over there wihout hesitation. Its not like I present only hate on him.
I'm always leaving some options for you guys to present your point of view and its up
to you if you take it or you get mad and bring your dark fanatic side.

However I understand that PAC "nuthuggers" are not able to think clearly,
its really fun to expose their blindness.

You right I will come soon agian.

Btw. Whats up guys with these gay avatars, seriously asking?

[bandeedo]

when pac beat erik and marco, both guys where proven monsters and well into their pro career, they may have not been past their prime but it is not inconcievable that they were. i would like to see pac destroy one more young proven threat so i can better place him in an all time ranking.

[boxbox]

you'll never know if morales was better than pac prime for prime and thats the cold truth...but 1 thing that is written and will be in the record books is that Pac won a trilogy with EM.

[boxbox]

Guys don't think too hard, get some sleep. For the clarification, I'm PAC fan too.:smooch

I like him to be true #1 p4p but right now some obstacles do not allow me to
put him over there wihout hesitation. Its not like I present only hate on him.
I'm always leaving some options for you guys to present your point of view and its up
to you if you take it or you get mad and bring your dark fanatic side.

However I understand that PAC "nuthuggers" are not able to think clearly,
its really fun to expose their blindness.

You right I will come soon agian.

Btw. Whats up guys with these gay avatars, seriously asking?



probably lost in an avatar bet

[retriever]

PAC best career wins were against Morales.
The important question now is where PAC stands
right now after Morales last lost and his career retirement.

Was PAC figting prime Morales in any fight or a faded or shot one?

In 6 latest fights Morales lost 5 times. Before PAC won first time
Morales had two loses vs Barrera and Raheeem and win over PAC.
So there can be some indication that even if the first fight with PAC
Morales was shot which was clearly ovious in the Raheeem fight.
From his point both TKO wins of PAC vs Morales may be not due
to improved PAC but because clearly faded Morales.

What do you guys think?


PAC thread again?

[Morrissey]

Guys don't think too hard, get some sleep. For the clarification, I'm PAC fan too.:smooch

I like him to be true #1 p4p but right now some obstacles do not allow me to
put him over there wihout hesitation. Its not like I present only hate on him.
I'm always leaving some options for you guys to present your point of view and its up
to you if you take it or you get mad and bring your dark fanatic side.

However I understand that PAC "nuthuggers" are not able to think clearly,
its really fun to expose their blindness.

You right I will come soon agian.

Btw. Whats up guys with these gay avatars, seriously asking?


If you notice, I am not the only one who sport such proud avatar. We are gay, and we feel there is no shame in that.

ANy problem with that? :hat

[bandeedo]

you'll never know if morales was better than pac prime for prime and thats the cold truth...but 1 thing that is written and will be in the record books is that Pac won a trilogy with EM.
diaz also has a win over erik but i dont put them in the same league, regardless of what box rec says.

[Stinky gloves]

probably lost in an avatar bet

Yours is cool .. is that real babe or just juiced up/roid one?
If you ever like to have avatar bet exchange don't be shy.

[boxbox]

Yours is cool .. is that real babe or just juiced up/roid one?
If you ever like to have avatar bet exchange don't be shy.

more like photoshoped :yep but she's still a fine girl, an actress here.:hey nah that girl in your avatar looks tired and worn out already:blurp

[blackstrider]

Prime? he wasn't prime, you jerkoff and he also had two weeks taken off of his training camp.

Shotup twak! :tired Pac demolished ledwaba in less than two weeks notice and less than a week of preparation. Now ur saying a two weeks taken off of P4P barreras training made him loose the fight?

[hooligan]

Shotup twak! :tired Pac demolished ledwaba in less than two weeks notice and less than a week of preparation. Now ur saying a two weeks taken off of P4P barreras training made him loose the fight?

:yep

[eze]

They were in their primes in their first fight. Pacman SIGNIFICANTLY improved in their 2nd fight and beat the greatness out of Eric.

[theunderdog]

Shotup twak! :tired Pac demolished ledwaba in less than two weeks notice and less than a week of preparation. Now ur saying a two weeks taken off of P4P barreras training made him loose the fight?

two weeks notice and 1 less than week preparation? that sounds crazy!! where did you get that shit? i mean if your a boxer who was informed two weeks before a championship fight, wouldn't you get your ass to the gym as fast as possible? why will you wait another week? what did he do in that 1 week of not training? pray?

you people will believe everything the pac camp says without even thinking about it first.

oh yeah, a link to your claim will be nice

[reed_man02]

two weeks notice and 1 less than week preparation? that sounds crazy!! where did you get that shit? i mean if your a boxer who was informed two weeks before a championship fight, wouldn't you get your ass to the gym as fast as possible? why will you wait another week? what did he do in that 1 week of not training? pray?

you people will believe everything the pac camp says without even thinking about it first.

oh yeah, a link to your claim will be nice

:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl

[reed_man02]

They were in their primes in their first fight. Pacman SIGNIFICANTLY improved in their 2nd fight and beat the greatness out of Eric.

youre trippin. how was em in his prime when he retired after just one more fight in which he lost to a nobody? i feel that a fresher and younger morales would have basically beat pacman similarly to the first fight, but a bit easier. its just that a prime erik can take mannys punches and have the stamina to fire back and get stronger as the fight wears on, not get exhausted and fatigued.

[theHawtness]

Prime? he wasn't prime, you jerkoff and he also had two weeks taken off of his training camp.
he wasn't prime? why? how? because he lost to jr jones many years ago? prove it!

[Chert]

two weeks notice and 1 less than week preparation? that sounds crazy!! where did you get that shit? i mean if your a boxer who was informed two weeks before a championship fight, wouldn't you get your ass to the gym as fast as possible? why will you wait another week? what did he do in that 1 week of not training? pray?

you people will believe everything the pac camp says without even thinking about it first.

oh yeah, a link to your claim will be nice

pac was a late replacement for the ledwaba fight since the orig opponent of ledwaba withdrew two weeks before the fight. luckily, pac was training for another fight during that time. still, given just two weeks notice to prepare for a championship fight instead and to win via TKO6 against a great champ like ledwaba is definitely a great achievement for pac.

[gatorage]

Morales was brave against Diaz but a shadow of the fighter he was before. His legs still looked rubbery at the halfway point of the fight and his punch power faded badly as well.

A less than prime Morales beat Pac. A prime Morales definitely beats Pac.

[Chert]

people here tend to forget that pac was moving up from 126 when he and erik fought for the first time. it was pac's first fight as a 130lber. still, pac just lost a very close decision and had erik hurt in that fight especially in the 12th. that was the first time i've seen erik's legs buckle like that. in subsequent fights, his legs weren't the same again.

[hellblazer]

Pac-Morales - Prime 4 Prime?

Pac wins by SD.

[Guru_Too_You]

Morales was not in prime when he beat Pac the first time. Prime for prime is a no-brainer, Morales would beat him.

Exactly.

So, Pacquiao has added a right hook. Big deal.

Give Morales back his legs, a better ability to take a punch and the ability to throw far more punches and its obvious who takes this one.

[blackstrider]

two weeks notice and 1 less than week preparation? that sounds crazy!! where did you get that shit? i mean if your a boxer who was informed two weeks before a championship fight, wouldn't you get your ass to the gym as fast as possible? why will you wait another week? what did he do in that 1 week of not training? pray?

you people will believe everything the pac camp says without even thinking about it first.

oh yeah, a link to your claim will be nice

u want link, search for pac vs ledwaba fight in youtube and u will know. u havnt watch the fight, hav u? I know its hard to believe but thats true. of course pacs doing a regular workout even without a fight not just praying as uv said, get it?

[Chert]

Exactly.

So, Pacquiao has added a right hook. Big deal.

Give Morales back his legs, a better ability to take a punch and the ability to throw far more punches and its obvious who takes this one.

that right hook was a big difference between the first and second pac-morales fights. pac was able to use this strong right hook counter when erik threw out his jab. that's why erik wasn't able to use his jab more to control the fight just like he did in the first one.

it was actually a right hook counter which set up the first kd of erik's career in that second fight.

[Guru_Too_You]

that right hook was a big difference between the first and second pac-morales fights. pac was able to use this strong right hook counter when erik threw out his jab. that's why erik wasn't able to use his jab more to control the fight just like he did in the first one.

it was actually a right hook counter which set up the first kd of erik's career in that second fight.

Age was the difference man. Raheem doesnt outbox Erik in his prime with an extra 6 inches of reach.

Every great fighter has one great fight left, and we saw that from Erik in his first fight with Manny. But to suggest that he was at his peak or even near it for the second bout with Manny is ludicrous and the weak performance against Raheem is the perfect evidence. Erik didnt have the legs to close the distance, the endurance to chase Raheem or the stamina to throw enough punches to slow him down.

[Chert]

Age was the difference man. Raheem doesnt outbox Erik in his prime with an extra 6 inches of reach.

Every great fighter has one great fight left, and we saw that from Erik in his first fight with Manny. But to suggest that he was at his peak or even near it for the second bout with Manny is ludicrous and the weak performance against Raheem is the perfect evidence. Erik didnt have the legs to close the distance, the endurance to chase Raheem or the stamina to throw enough punches to slow him down.

i guess the first fight with pac took a lot out from erik even if he won that fight. like i said in a previous post, erik was visibly hurt in that 12th round and that was the first time i've seen his legs buckle like that. raheem was probably just a beneficiary of this in their subsequent fight.

[Morrissey]

Prime for prime, it can surpass the first MAB-EM fight, or even the Vasquez-Marquez series in terms of competitiveness and action and excitement.

It is going to be a great pick'em fight.