Our best never to win a world title....

[WhataRock]

Dave Sands
Paul Ferrari
Hector Thompson
Shannan Taylor
Mundine Snr
Les Darcy
Paul Briggs

Actually would be a pretty big list when you think about it:lol:

[bushboy]

I have never seen footage of shannan at his fighting best, was he a real standout?

[ipswich express]

Yes he sure was.

[ipswich express]

Livingstone Bramble told me he was the hardest hitter he ever faced. Says a fair bit when you look at who Livvy fought.

[Bentchassis]

Actually I was thinking Shannan. Poor bloke aside he had great talent. I thought Glen Kelly may be in the mix also?

[WhataRock]

I would actually probably say Kevin Kelly over Kunga.

Glenn was barely world class and I dont mean barely in a negative way, its just in comparison to most of the division at the time he wasnt really anything special. But in comparison to all our local talent, he was head and shoulders above.

Taylor was one the last talents we had I would have called special. Very dangerous fighter focused and in shape at welter.

[Bentchassis]

Not hugely familar with the older guys on th elist but I always felt dissapointed that Briggs didn't achieve more. I guess his kickboxing career mixed with his lifestyle problems.

Adamek's proven to be world class fighter but I thought Paul had been a better fighter prior to their encounters, as close as they were, I still feel his best was better than that.

[WhataRock]

Paul had his shot and couldnt come up with the win, even though he came real close. Adamek continues to prove he was a very legit champ.

[the beaver]

Probably add Troy Waters to that list, although i wouldn't put his brother Guy who also came close.

[WhataRock]

How could I forget Troy..nice one beav.

[Texan Joe]

Doug Sam went pretty close, losing over 15 rounds to the Korean in Korea.

Also on ability & skill Paul Miller, though he never really got much momentum in the pros due to injuries etc, he left some of our more accomplished pros (Briggs, Green ) for dead in sparring.

[04eta]

Add the hussein boys to the list, especially skinny

[Bentchassis]

Skinny got the WBF i think? Don't think Hussy got a title belt though?

[roscoe]

Troy Waters came so close in stopping Terry Norris in the 2nd rd. If the left hook that he threw & missed by inches had connected, Norris would never have got off the canvas. He struggled to get up as it was but he did & went on to stop Troy in the very next rd. Oh so bloody close.

[WhataRock]

WBF doesnt count Bent..no way.

Actually I started writing this list with Hussy in mind because I saw his name come up. Forgot to add him.
To bad for him that he ran into the best flyweight since Too Sharp in Pong and one of the hardest punchers ever at lightfly-fly in Arce.

Skinny is my man...Been my fav aussie fighter for quite some time but he fought two lesser guys for titles and was well beaten both times.
P4P I rate Hussy a little better.

[bushboy]

Paul had his shot and couldnt come up with the win, even though he came real close. Adamek continues to prove he was a very legit champ.

Your dead right rock, when you have a look at the path adamek has cut through the cruiserweight division, The fight that briggs took up to the much bigger man makes him a very tough unit indeed.

[Phil Austin]

Also -
Mark Janssen
Cliff Samardin

[Bentchassis]

WBF doesnt count Bent..no way.

Actually I started writing this list with Hussy in mind because I saw his name come up. Forgot to add him.
To bad for him that he ran into the best flyweight since Too Sharp in Pong and one of the hardest punchers ever at lightfly-fly in Arce.

Skinny is my man...Been my fav aussie fighter for quite some time but he fought two lesser guys for titles and was well beaten both times.
P4P I rate Hussy a little better.
Yeah I should have added 'not that it should count'. But it's on his wall hey

[Infern0]

What about Danny Green?

[Bentchassis]

What about Danny Green?

:lol:

[Bentchassis]

WBF doesnt count Bent..no way.

Actually I started writing this list with Hussy in mind because I saw his name come up. Forgot to add him.
To bad for him that he ran into the best flyweight since Too Sharp in Pong and one of the hardest punchers ever at lightfly-fly in Arce.

Skinny is my man...Been my fav aussie fighter for quite some time but he fought two lesser guys for titles and was well beaten both times.
P4P I rate Hussy a little better.
Who would you have @ 112 in a prime Hussy / Darchinyan clash Rock?

[WhataRock]

Well you gotta go with Vic based on their records.

I think he would stop Huss later on. Hussy had everything, was a very well rounded fighter but didnt excel in one field particularly. He had above average in speed and skill especially but his power and beard were not awesome though at the same time quite solid.

But I heard a lot of sparring stories where Hussy gave it to Vic and this led Hyder to believe he might not make it in the pros intially.
Apparently Huss did very very well against Tokuyama (WBC super champ of the time and a very good boxer) when they sparred in Japan, they called a halt to the session early. But that is just sparring and frankly just stories for all I know.

[Kegsy]

Well you gotta go with Vic based on their records.

I think he would stop Huss later on. Hussy had everything, was a very well rounded fighter but didnt excel in one field particularly. He had above average in speed and skill especially but his power and beard were not awesome though at the same time quite solid.

But I heard a lot of sparring stories where Hussy gave it to Vic and this led Hyder to believe he might not make it in the pros intially.
Apparently Huss did very very well against Tokuyama (WBC super champ of the time and a very good boxer) when they sparred in Japan, they called a halt to the session early. But that is just sparring and frankly just stories for all I know.
I have all those stories as well mate.
Vic has really come on in leaps & bounds, & i always felt he was much stronger mentally than Hussy.
Still tho both in their primes is a terrific matchup, that Vic would have won by a later rounds stoppage. I say around 8 thru to 11 sorta mark.

[BoppaZoo]

Vic Patrick would be another.

[Bentchassis]

Well you gotta go with Vic based on their records.

I think he would stop Huss later on. Hussy had everything, was a very well rounded fighter but didnt excel in one field particularly. He had above average in speed and skill especially but his power and beard were not awesome though at the same time quite solid.

But I heard a lot of sparring stories where Hussy gave it to Vic and this led Hyder to believe he might not make it in the pros intially.
Apparently Huss did very very well against Tokuyama (WBC super champ of the time and a very good boxer) when they sparred in Japan, they called a halt to the session early. But that is just sparring and frankly just stories for all I know.
Cheers.
Arce was relentless and broke Hussy down where I think Vic would be more timely and devastating. Without the big power component, Hussy relies on his movement and speed and I've seen Vic handle those types well enough to make me put the odds in Vic's favour.

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

What about Danny Green?

Danny won the WBA light heavyweight title in his last match against Stipe Drews, before retiring (or at least temporarily retiring).

[COULDHAVEBEEN]

Dave Sands
Paul Ferrari
Hector Thompson
Shannan Taylor
Mundine Snr
Les Darcy
Paul Briggs

Actually would be a pretty big list when you think about it:lol:

Good list WhataRock, and yes there's plenty more, as per some of the later posts.

I reckon the early fighters had a harder task (ie before the alphabet titles swamped world boxing). Blokes like Hec Thompson (Duran), Ferreri (Zarate) and Mundine Snr (Monzon) were just plain unlucky to be around at the wrong time.

[roscoe]

Going back to Skinny Hussein most might not remember that he floored pacman in the 4th rd of their fight in which he eventually lost. He did seem to freeze in other world title fights almost like he didn't want to be there.

[WhataRock]

Against Larios he was up against a guy he could have beaten on paper but also stylistcally is was going to be hard for him because his pretty conservative peek-a-boo style didnt match well against the volume punching and crowding of Larios.
When Skinny punched he looked the better fighter, he made Larios miss a lot and he hurt Larios to the body a couple of times. But in the end he just couldnt keep doing that all fight. I dont think he didnt do what he had to, as in he threw the fight away by not being active enough which a lot of people unfairly claimed. He just couldnt because Larios wouldnt let him.
Skinny was fed to many guys who dropped as soon as he hit them, especially with that left rip. So he never developed a good work ethic, he didnt need to and then when he stepped up he couldnt deliver.

Harrison was limited but a very strong feather. I was impressed the way Skinny hurt him late but that was another fight Skinny seemingly had a decent shot (Harrison didnt like it to the body) but in the end he wasnt good enough.

[huricn]

Paul Briggs

[rusty nails]

julian holland.. brilliant at his best

[oztriker]

Anthony (The Man) Mundine would have to be right up there....

Certainly among our top 100 to never win a World Title:D

[melhear]

Dave Sands and Les Darcy followed by Tony Mundine and Hector Thompson

[oztriker]

Dave Sands and Les Darcy followed by Tony Mundine and Hector Thompson

I would rate Hector right up there...... Unfortunate circumstances reduced his killer instinct

[Francis75]

Imo Anthony Mundine is the best never to win a world title. The WBA regular title is NOT a world title belt imo when the WBA have a super champion above.

[WhataRock]

Choc doesnt even come close to guys like Sands and Darcy.

Not even his dad.

[melhear]

I would rate Hector right up there...... Unfortunate circumstances reduced his killer instinctYeah I think 2 guys died after he fought them.

[oztriker]

Yeah I think 2 guys died after he fought them.

Right..... Despite what he said..... He was never the same fighter.

Had awesome power...

[melhear]

Right..... Despite what he said..... He was never the same fighter.

Had awesome power... Lasted I think 8 rounds or so against the mighty Roberto.

[WhataRock]

Lasted I think 8 rounds or so against the mighty Roberto.

Which as I said in a thread about the best performance by an aussie is still something to be very proud of seeing as Prime lightweight Duran was just about the best speciman of a fighter that has ever laced them up.

[Phil Austin]

In an interview with his old trainer, Ray Arcel in KO magazine in the 80's he stated he was never more worried in a Duran fight tan against Thompson; said he felt 'sick' in the corner and would never want Roberto to fight him again

[ozziebattler]

Dave Sands
Paul Ferrari
Hector Thompson
Shannan Taylor
Mundine Snr
Les Darcy
Paul Briggs

Actually would be a pretty big list when you think about it:lol:

Mundine jrn

[JOSEY WALES]

Paul had his shot and couldnt come up with the win, even though he came real close. Adamek continues to prove he was a very legit champ. Good post mate , And i reckon Thomaz Adamek will roll Steve Cunningham next time out, i was abit dubious about Adamek's move to Cruiser but he has grown into the weight well , the Yanks think i'm nuts with this prediction though as they see USS Cunningham as all singing and dancing but i don't rate the fella , his boxing skills leave a lot to be desired , Huck is a virtual novice coming from kickboxing and he almost went the distance with him not to mention sharing two fights with the average Pole Wlod ..

[toppity]

julian holland.. brilliant at his best

Ahhh...the fighting farrier was he not? Good bloke too if you ever heard him interviewed.:good

[ipswich express]

He was a good fighter but a long way from becoming world champion at any stage...

[melhear]

Which as I said in a thread about the best performance by an aussie is still something to be very proud of seeing as Prime lightweight Duran was just about the best speciman of a fighter that has ever laced them up. Spot on

[boxon123]

Spot onHector also fought this guy, Antonio Cervantes who was in durans class [Only registered and activated users can see links] human_id=9005&cat=boxer

[boxon123]

Hector also fought this guy, Antonio Cervantes who was in durans class [Only registered and activated users can see links] human_id=9005&cat=boxer
As for S.taylor if you wish to see how good a boxer he was download his fights with sean sullivan ! Then watch the fights that green and mundine had with the same guy. Taylor is judge to much on peoples dislike for him rather than his boxing ability.

[WhataRock]

He was a weapon of a fighter in his welter days.

Threw it all away to a degree with his lovin the coke.

[pecks]

He was a weapon of a fighter in his welter days.

Threw it all away to a degree with his lovin the coke.Taylor was never the same after he got dusted by the future to be Rabbitoh, Caruana.

[bushboy]

Haha you make it sound like a 12 round war pecks, it was more like a 90second stoush in a pokies room wasnt it