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David UK
08-05-2007, 04:44 PM
As far as I'm concerned the absolute key to this fight is Mayweather's fighting heart. If he is prepared to actually fight and go to a very painful place he never has been before against a rough tough bruiser like Hatton,then his superior talent should see him through. Anything less than total and utter commitment to do whatever is necessary will result in a loss for Mayweather.

I just have a feeling that this fight will surprise most people and that Mayweather will bail out when the going gets too tough.

Lampley
08-05-2007, 04:45 PM
As far as I'm concerned the absolute key to this fight is Mayweather's fighting heart. If he is prepared to actually fight and go to a very painful place he never has been before against a rough tough bruiser like Hatton,then his superior talent should see him through. Anything less than total and utter commitment to do whatever is necessary will result in a loss for Mayweather.

I just have a feeling that this fight will surprise most people and that Mayweather will bail out when the going gets too tough.

You are assuming Floyd is forced into Hatton's fight, which I think is wishful thinking on your part. Maybe that will happen and the above scenario will unfold, but there's also a very real chance Floyd will be able to dictate distance and dominate with his legs and speed.

BigReg
08-05-2007, 04:48 PM
As far as I'm concerned the absolute key to this fight is Mayweather's fighting heart. If he is prepared to actually fight and go to a very painful place he never has been before against a rough tough bruiser like Hatton,then his superior talent should see him through. Anything less than total and utter commitment to do whatever is necessary will result in a loss for Mayweather.

I just have a feeling that this fight will surprise most people and that Mayweather will bail out when the going gets too tough.

I doubt it, the guy fought the first Castillo fight with bruised ribs, and an injured shoulder. He's also fought most of his career with hurt hands. I don't think you can ever count on a professional athlete bailing out(unless he has a history of doing so). Like most athletes, Floyd has alot of pride and won't bail just because things are getting tough for him.

Sug3
08-05-2007, 04:49 PM
Once again hatton has good footspeed and handspeed also,so that means floyd will have no choice,but to fight and show his heart.

Lampley
08-05-2007, 04:57 PM
Once again hatton has good footspeed and handspeed also,so that means floyd will have no choice,but to fight and show his heart.

I agree and this is why Hatton should be considered a live dog, but Floyd still has clear advantages in both categories.

I'd feel better about Hatton's chances, but there are two lingering concerns:

1) He does not have a reliable jab to use the way Oscar did, making him easier to target on his way in

and

2) He has shown a recent tendency to gas out over the course of a long fight

I have no doubt that Ricky will not balloon in weight this time around, but even after one shitty performance (Collazo) which should have been a wake-up call, he followed that with another tired holdfest back at 140 against Urango. This does not bode well.

Still, I think Ricky has a solid 25% chance, based on his aggression and greater mobility than Baldomir or aging De La Hoya.

achillesthegreat
08-05-2007, 05:17 PM
As far as I'm concerned the absolute key to this fight is Mayweather's fighting heart. If he is prepared to actually fight and go to a very painful place he never has been before against a rough tough bruiser like Hatton,then his superior talent should see him through. Anything less than total and utter commitment to do whatever is necessary will result in a loss for Mayweather.

I just have a feeling that this fight will surprise most people and that Mayweather will bail out when the going gets too tough.
I'm rooting for Hatton but don't just start making stupid shit up.

Floyd has gone in against big men, he has fought through numerous injuries and he has been in tough fights.

When he fought Castillo he had two broken ribs, an injured rotator cuff, was outweighed by a good 10 pounds and was in a war.

NOTHING suggests Floyd will bail.

HauntingTheHoly
08-05-2007, 05:23 PM
The key to the fight is this: If Hatton becomes aware of the embarassment that awaits him and STAYS HOME, then he may be able to make an excuse, (I got a nasty flu!) and continue his career. If he shows up, he's gonna be humiliated.

Marnoff
08-05-2007, 05:23 PM
As far as I'm concerned the absolute key to this fight is Mayweather's fighting heart. If he is prepared to actually fight and go to a very painful place he never has been before against a rough tough bruiser like Hatton,then his superior talent should see him through. Anything less than total and utter commitment to do whatever is necessary will result in a loss for Mayweather.

I just have a feeling that this fight will surprise most people and that Mayweather will bail out when the going gets too tough.

His heart is the key? When was it in question? He's undefeated and has fought the best.

Marnoff
08-05-2007, 05:23 PM
I'm rooting for Hatton but don't just start making stupid shit up.

Floyd has gone in against big men, he has fought through numerous injuries and he has been in tough fights.

When he fought Castillo he had two broken ribs, an injured rotator cuff, was outweighed by a good 10 pounds and was in a war.

NOTHING suggests Floyd will bail.

Exactly. Ridiculous thread.

Toopretty
08-05-2007, 05:46 PM
Dumbest article ever. Hatton has speed but no coordination and cannot box on the outside so his speed means nothing. He has no defense and if he rushes in on floyd he will get punched every time coming in just outclassed on the inside with counter punches. Floyd by far has more stamina then probably anyone in the sport b/c he is intelligent. He does not waste any energy. Hatton will be wasting most of his energy trying to get to floyd. Those little half steps back floyd takes will just befuddle hatton. He is not used to that type of fighter. And to those that think ODH was this and that and that he is not Hatton. That is true. Hatton does not have the accuracy,size, reach, jab or defense to get on the inside of floyd like ODH was able to do.

ChampionsForever
08-05-2007, 05:53 PM
Hattons gonna stop that little prick, hes whole career has been leading up until this point, its twice as big as the Tzsyu fight and they both hate eachother.

Beebs
08-05-2007, 06:08 PM
I really see no quit at all in Floyd, he isn't your classic "warrior" by any means, but he has never shown a propensity for or even thought of giving up. I think Hattons gonna win, but I see no weakness in Floyds ability to keep going mentally, it will be physical punishment that stops him.

Proud Warrior
08-05-2007, 09:35 PM
I really see no quit at all in Floyd, he isn't your classic "warrior" by any means, but he has never shown a propensity for or even thought of giving up. I think Hattons gonna win, but I see no weakness in Floyds ability to keep going mentally, it will be physical punishment that stops him.Mayweather is fav i know that but this is Hattons destiny,i really belive that,he aint gonna give PBF a minutes rest and the only way Floyd has stayed unbeaten is becuuse all the pressure fighters he has fought have gassed out,if Hatton goes in at 140 weight and dose not need to mess about loosing a couple of pounds because of the 147 cushion he has he will not gas out and will be in prime condition. Mayweather will have never faced anything like this,if Hatton fights like he did against Tszyu he has every chance.

BigReg
08-05-2007, 09:39 PM
Mayweather is fav i know that but this is Hattons destiny,i really belive that,he aint gonna give PBF a minutes rest and the only way Floyd has stayed unbeaten is becuuse all the pressure fighters he has fought have gassed out,if Hatton goes in at 140 weight and dose not need to mess about loosing a couple of pounds because of the 147 cushion he has he will not gas out and will be in prime condition. Mayweather will have never faced anything like this,if Hatton fights like he did against Tszyu he has every chance.

I guess you never saw his fights with Jesus Chavez and Phillip N'Dou. Both of those came after Floyd non stop, and they never gassed out. N'Dou was knocked out, and Chavez's corner stopped the fight because Chavez was taking too many clean shots.

Proud Warrior
08-05-2007, 09:46 PM
I guess you never saw his fights with Jesus Chavez and Phillip N'Dou. Both of those came after Floyd non stop, and they never gassed out. N'Dou was knocked out, and Chavez's corner stopped the fight because Chavez was taking too many clean shots.Hatton is not those guys and if you look at the Tszyu fight he got hit so hard and walked through it,Hatton will never give up,he walks through walls and the only way hatton will loose is on points or cuts and since his op on his eyes the cuts have stopped.

BigReg
08-05-2007, 09:47 PM
Hatton is not those guys and if you look at the Tszyu fight he got hit so hard and walked through it,Hatton will never give up,he walks through walls and the only way hatton will loose is on points or cuts and since his op on his eyes the cuts have stopped.

That's fine, but Mayweather isn't Tszyu and you said Mayweather is only undefeated because the pressure fighters he faced gassed out which isn't true.

Proud Warrior
08-05-2007, 09:55 PM
That's fine, but Mayweather isn't Tszyu and you said Mayweather is only undefeated because the pressure fighters he faced gassed out which isn't true.I admit that i am more of an expert on Ricky but the close fights that i have seen mayweather in were the JLC,ODLH fights,both pressured him,JLC might of even got the win on another night and if Oscar was a bit fitter on the night he would of won,hell that fight was close anyway.

Toopretty
08-05-2007, 09:58 PM
Hatton is not those guys and if you look at the Tszyu fight he got hit so hard and walked through it,Hatton will never give up,he walks through walls and the only way hatton will loose is on points or cuts and since his op on his eyes the cuts have stopped.

Hatton took one shot at a time and with a flat footed fighter where hatton could just take a step back if he got rocked and tsyu never pursued him as he was tired as shit from round 8. Floyd does not have stamina problems and is smarter then tsyu or hatton in the ring. He will force hatton to box and if hatton comes in chasing with all this energy and being relentless as REG said He will get hit more and NEVER get in enough of his shots and by the later rounds he will wear down. Remember floyd goes to the body ..a whole lot...lol He will break hatton down and all the destiny and all this other garbage. Hattons only advantage in this fight is...I got to think about it. I dont see any that will win him the fight. Pressuring floyd means nothing. He has never faded and never ever buckled under any pressure.

Toopretty
08-05-2007, 10:02 PM
I admit that i am more of an expert on Ricky but the close fights that i have seen mayweather in were the JLC,ODLH fights,both pressured him,JLC might of even got the win on another night and if Oscar was a bit fitter on the night he would of won,hell that fight was close anyway.

Yeah comparing hatton to ODH who is a bigger puncher then ricky in any sense and he could not hurt floyd though landing clean and flush a few times and ODH has a better jab and defense then hatton. I seen hatton jump in the air and cling for mercy when he was hit himself to the body clean by castillo and urango. Lets see how much energy he has when floyd jabs and throws that lead right to the gut of ricky.

Proud Warrior
08-05-2007, 10:06 PM
Hatton took one shot at a time and with a flat footed fighter where hatton could just take a step back if he got rocked and tsyu never pursued him as he was tired as shit from round 8. Floyd does not have stamina problems and is smarter then tsyu or hatton in the ring. He will force hatton to box and if hatton comes in chasing with all this energy and being relentless as REG said He will get hit more and NEVER get in enough of his shots and by the later rounds he will wear down. Remember floyd goes to the body ..a whole lot...lol He will break hatton down and all the destiny and all this other garbage. Hattons only advantage in this fight is...I got to think about it. I dont see any that will win him the fight. Pressuring floyd means nothing. He has never faded and never ever buckled under any pressure.I said floyd was fav,i just think a few people will be suprised on Dec 8,we are talking about one tough fighter who i have all the faith in.Its just my oppinion,alot of Mayweather fans on here have never seen him live,i have been to 7 Hatton fights and i cant explain in words wot the atmosphere and energy is like and it dose fuel him,there will be over half the crowd that are brits and he wont let them down! I hope,lol.

igotJUIC3
08-05-2007, 10:11 PM
affective pressure.....this means he will have to throw punches comming in...not really his forte.....the man cant box on the outside man or in the middle of the ring at a distance he makes his money on the inside something PBF just wont allow....i cant believe you people actually think Hattons speed and footwork will come to close enough to corner PBF...not gonna happen.....PBF has seen good affective pressure in Castillo...TWICE he won.....Hatton has NEVER seen what PBF brings to the table....NEVER....he thinks he knows how fast PBF is and how good he is...wait till he really feels it....im telling you Hattons timing will be completely off making him look very bad.....especially since PBF wont be in front of him like all the fights Hatton has been in.

Proud Warrior
08-05-2007, 10:28 PM
affective pressure.....this means he will have to throw punches comming in...not really his forte.....the man cant box on the outside man or in the middle of the ring at a distance he makes his money on the inside something PBF just wont allow....i cant believe you people actually think Hattons speed and footwork will come to close enough to corner PBF...not gonna happen.....PBF has seen good affective pressure in Castillo...TWICE he won.....Hatton has NEVER seen what PBF brings to the table....NEVER....he thinks he knows how fast PBF is and how good he is...wait till he really feels it....im telling you Hattons timing will be completely off making him look very bad.....especially since PBF wont be in front of him like all the fights Hatton has been in.Did he win the first JLC fight? on paper yes but others think not.

Beebs
08-05-2007, 10:30 PM
Mayweather is fav i know that but this is Hattons destiny,i really belive that,he aint gonna give PBF a minutes rest and the only way Floyd has stayed unbeaten is becuuse all the pressure fighters he has fought have gassed out,if Hatton goes in at 140 weight and dose not need to mess about loosing a couple of pounds because of the 147 cushion he has he will not gas out and will be in prime condition. Mayweather will have never faced anything like this,if Hatton fights like he did against Tszyu he has every chance.

I agree, but Floyd doesn't appear to have any quit in him was all I was saying.

David UK
08-06-2007, 12:44 AM
I agree, but Floyd doesn't appear to have any quit in him was all I was saying.

We shall see fellas. There's always a first time. And if Mayweather enjoys a punch up so much, why is he one of the world's saftly first fighters? Hatton will take him to places he doesn't want to be. Just because Floyd hasn't bailed out before doesn't mean he won't if the going gets really tough. His personality is flawed, that much is obvious.

knockout
08-06-2007, 12:49 AM
well Hatton has to is Pressure,pressure,pressure,hug,hug,hug and throw a headbutt,elbows cuple of lowblows.:yep :smoke

Fallow
08-06-2007, 02:20 AM
If Jake La Motta, who was crude when compared to the more educated pressure of Hatton, can score a couple of wins against the greatest fighter to have ever laced them up then Hatton stands at least as good a chance of beating Mayweather.

There are very feasible scenarios that lead to a Hatton victory, most notably the one that sees Hatton completely shutting the ring off and keeping his head on Mayweather’s chest whilst relentlessly hammering away in a very rough and dirty close-quarters fight.

Remember, Floyd will need to keep Hatton at distance to win this fight as easily as many of you are predicting and that is something that 43 men have failed to do.

I do still favour Floyd in this one and believe that his speed and accuracy will be too much for the Manchester man, but one would be foolish to write Hatton off.

smokey
08-06-2007, 02:33 AM
Hatton is not those guys and if you look at the Tszyu fight he got hit so hard and walked through it,Hatton will never give up,he walks through walls and the only way hatton will loose is on points or cuts and since his op on his eyes the cuts have stopped.

If you think he's going to just "walk through it" see the Gatti fight. Everyone talks like they knew Gatti was finished and not a good opponent NOW, but back then all you heard was "Floyd can't hurt Gatti" and that Gatti had tasted a lot more potent power than what Floyd brought to the table, which was true... however, Floyd has unbelievable punch accuracy and timing that makes his limited power alot more effective than some guys with more physical strength than him.

I hope Hatton is thankfull to not have you in his corner deciding strategy. Just "walking through it" is what will have him not answering the bell by about the 9th.

smokey
08-06-2007, 02:35 AM
If Jake La Motta, who was crude when compared to the more educated pressure of Hatton, can score a couple of wins against the greatest fighter to have ever laced them up then Hatton stands at least as good a chance of beating Mayweather.


-1,000,000 points for mentioning Hatton in the same sentence as La Motta. The dude was never knocked down... Hatton was dropped by McGee of all people, and is quoted as saying Collazo had "heavy hands" (one of the lightest hitters that's managed to capture a title at 147 in the last several years, right there with Corey Spinks).

Fallow
08-06-2007, 03:31 AM
-1,000,000 points for mentioning Hatton in the same sentence as La Motta. The dude was never knocked down... Hatton was dropped by McGee of all people, and is quoted as saying Collazo had "heavy hands" (one of the lightest hitters that's managed to capture a title at 147 in the last several years, right there with Corey Spinks).

-100,000,000 points for not understanding the basic underlining theory and choosing instead to concentrate on irrelevant side issues. Stylistically the analogy is flawless, this fight will be a fine example of boxer vs. brawler as was La Motta vs. Ray Robinson.

And for the record, Magee was, if nothing else, a huge puncher.

Fallow
08-06-2007, 03:35 AM
I hope Hatton is thankfull to not have you in his corner deciding strategy. Just "walking through it" is what will have him not answering the bell by about the 9th.

It worked just fine against Zoo who hit Hatton cleanly on the chin plenty, Kostya was actually ahead on a few cards at the time of the TKO.

Laura
08-06-2007, 03:47 AM
I doubt it, the guy fought the first Castillo fight with bruised ribs, and an injured shoulder. He's also fought most of his career with hurt hands. I don't think you can ever count on a professional athlete bailing out(unless he has a history of doing so). Like most athletes, Floyd has alot of pride and won't bail just because things are getting tough for him.

I agree. Not a big fan of either one of them but I think Mayweather will come through...

Farmboxer
08-06-2007, 03:57 AM
The key will be the criminal judes, referee, commentators, etc.

smokey
08-06-2007, 04:02 AM
-100,000,000 points for not understanding the basic underlining theory and choosing instead to concentrate on irrelevant side issues. Stylistically the analogy is flawless, this fight will be a fine example of boxer vs. brawler as was La Motta vs. Ray Robinson.

And for the record, Magee was, if nothing else, a huge puncher.
Magee was a club fighter. Hatton is about the only name on his record with a rep outside of the islands.

I understood your analogy, but it was flawed. And it is a cardinal crime to mention Hattons name in the same sentence with La Motta... I also thing comparing PBF to Ray Robinson should be against the law.

Ray Robinson lost to La Motta.... after moving up from 135 pounds to fight at middle to find a champ that would give him a title shot. The raw brawler who beat him was a much larger man. I don't think you'll often find a smaller, weaker man that easily walks through everything a skilled boxer throws to just use physicality to beat him. It's just a bad comparison made by a little Ricky fanboy.

I DO think that Hatton can win, but if the game is just to take punishment to walk down Mayweather, you're looking at a replay of Gatti.

smokey
08-06-2007, 04:03 AM
It worked just fine against Zoo who hit Hatton cleanly on the chin plenty, Kostya was actually ahead on a few cards at the time of the TKO.

You mean the fight that all the Hattonites have been trying to convince Americans doesn't represent his style at all? He had a very friendly ref who led him put Tszyu in an arm bar with one and and hit him with the other all night long.

Fallow
08-06-2007, 06:05 AM
You mean the fight that all the Hattonites have been trying to convince Americans doesn't represent his style at all? He had a very friendly ref who led him put Tszyu in an arm bar with one and and hit him with the other all night long.

All totally irrelevant because none of it alters the fact that Zoo nailed Hatton on countless occasions only to find the little fucka still in his face and throwing. Zoo is/was a far more thunderous puncher than Floyd is, even at that advanced stage in his career.

Magee was a club fighter. Hatton is about the only name on his record with a rep outside of the islands.

Yet again you demonstrate a penchant for the irrelevant. Assessments of Magee’s overall ability aside, one thing that is universally accepted was that he was a big puncher at any level. I don’t have a particularly high opinion of Eamonn Magee either, but that man had single-shot power, only a blithering fool would deny that.

Listen, Jake La Motta is one of my favourite fighters of all time whilst Hatton doesn’t even register with me. The analogy is flawless and your attempts to repel it are week. In physical terms Ray Robinson was easily comparable to La Motta, what he lacked in power he made up for in both height and reach, he had an abundance of both over The Bronx Bull.

Still don’t like the analogy huh? How about a more recent example that may be fresh in your memory. Vernon Forrest vs. Ricardo Mayorga (I & II). Forrest was god’s gift to boxing after beating Sugar Shane (twice), he was the most celebrated fighter of 2002 when he took on a man who showed exactly what a nothing to lose attitude along with a burning desire to win can do.

Conventional wisdom states that Mayorga could not win a decision against the more technically superior Vernon Forrest. Yet that is exactly what he did. You could argue that Mayweather is much better than Forrest and I’d be inclined to agree with you, but I could just as easily argue that Hatton is far great than Mayorga. Need another example? I could go on all day son.

As I stated at the top of this thread, I still favour Mayweather in this one, but completely writing Hatton’s chances off in this fight is folly.

Gsand
08-06-2007, 06:09 AM
It worked just fine against Zoo who hit Hatton cleanly on the chin plenty, Kostya was actually ahead on a few cards at the time of the TKO.

Which cards are those, not US tv, not UK tv, not ringside reporters so which legit score cards are you referring to?

Fallow
08-06-2007, 06:27 AM
I know quite a few people who had Zoo up by 1-2 rounds at the time of the TKO, but no, not on the official cards, and we all know that officials never get it wrong.

Zoo's work was cleaner, more economical, his punching more accurate and with greater power, I favoured that personally, but it is a moot point as Hatton won fair and square and rendered the scorecards meaningless regardless of which way you were scoring it at the time.

smokey
08-06-2007, 06:37 AM
As I stated at the top of this thread, I still favour Mayweather in this one, but completely writing Hatton’s chances off in this fight is folly.

That I do agree with and have the entire time. I think Hatton has as good a chance as anyone to pull off the win. I was just saying that the image that he can't be hurt and can just take punishment isn't really so. He'll need to have his head feints going and be lunging in to grapple Mayweather to nullify his speed. He'll take hits, but if he can get inside fast enough he has a chance.

Trying to just walk him down is going to end in him following him around and getting potshotted untill he's finished.... just like Corrales... just like Gatti. A lot of people say Mayweather doesn't have any power, but it's funny how very few fighters have been able to walk through his punches. He hurt De La Hoya, who has been in with some heavy hitters. Accuracy, timing, and speed does a lot to counteract the lack of physical strength.... I also am questioning whether Hatton is even the stronger man in this fight.

Fallow
08-06-2007, 06:56 AM
Hatton will go into the fight knowing that he will have to take a punch to land a punch. He'll be hoping that he can land 2-3 for every clean shot Floyd puts on him as he comes in.

Floyd will need to be at his very best on the night, because Hatton will attack in exactly the way you describe. He will ensure that Mayweather is outside of the comfort zone, he will make him fight for the full 3 minutes of every round.

I guess my arguement isn't with you but more with the people who make woefully stupid comments like "Hatton doesn't have a hope in hell".

Bummy Davis
08-06-2007, 06:58 AM
Who imposes there will

roly
08-06-2007, 07:38 AM
If you think he's going to just "walk through it" see the Gatti fight. Everyone talks like they knew Gatti was finished and not a good opponent NOW, but back then all you heard was "Floyd can't hurt Gatti" and that Gatti had tasted a lot more potent power than what Floyd brought to the table, which was true... however, Floyd has unbelievable punch accuracy and timing that makes his limited power alot more effective than some guys with more physical strength than him.

I hope Hatton is thankfull to not have you in his corner deciding strategy. Just "walking through it" is what will have him not answering the bell by about the 9th.

gatti decided it was a good idea to try and box mayweather from a distance, which was about the worst decision he could of made. if he hadn't it probably wouldn't have changed the ultimate outcome, but would of prevented a massacre.

David UK
08-06-2007, 07:46 AM
If Jake La Motta, who was crude when compared to the more educated pressure of Hatton, can score a couple of wins against the greatest fighter to have ever laced them up then Hatton stands at least as good a chance of beating Mayweather.

There are very feasible scenarios that lead to a Hatton victory, most notably the one that sees Hatton completely shutting the ring off and keeping his head on Mayweather’s chest whilst relentlessly hammering away in a very rough and dirty close-quarters fight.

Remember, Floyd will need to keep Hatton at distance to win this fight as easily as many of you are predicting and that is something that 43 men have failed to do.

I do still favour Floyd in this one and believe that his speed and accuracy will be too much for the Manchester man, but one would be foolish to write Hatton off.

Yes I agree. An excellent post reminding us that it's not always the most talented that wins.

Just for the record in my original post I wasn't suggesting that Mayweather may do a 'no mas', merely questioning wether he can REALLY tough it out when he has to.

chambers80
08-06-2007, 07:49 AM
gatti decided it was a good idea to try and box mayweather from a distance, which was about the worst decision he could of made. if he hadn't it probably wouldn't have changed the ultimate outcome, but would of prevented a massacre.

How true, Gatti fought the completely wrong fight and Hatton simply won't do that. If Hatton stays on the outside he'l get so much shit off Billy Graham in the corner he'l be gagging to get back out to Mayweather for a break!!

David UK
08-06-2007, 08:07 AM
Let's not start comparing Gatti with Hatton. Hatton is head and shoulders above Gatti in terms of ability and achievement. Gatti has NINE losses, some of which to merely fringe contenders

LeedsLad
08-06-2007, 08:20 AM
Let's not start comparing Gatti with Hatton. Hatton is head and shoulders above Gatti in terms of ability and achievement. Gatti has NINE losses, some of which to merely fringe contenders
Yeh, exactly. The same goes with Corrales, Chico was a warrior but Hatton has a lot more boxing ability than Chico. I dont question Floyd's heart at all, he took some punishment and fought threw broken ribs and a shoulder injury against Castillo.

Hatton does have underrated boxing skills, but he can't compete with Floyd when it comes to boxing ability. Hatton has to apply educated pressure, diving inside unprotected and throwing wild punches is Floyd's bread and butter, he'll pick you apart with ease if you do that. Hatton has some nifty footwork and decent speed, he has to cut of the ring and work Floyd's body. Floyd is an intelligent fighter too, he can't do the same thing over and become predictable otherwise Floyd will work him out and have an easy night.

Hatton will have to provide the performance of his career to win this fight, i think it will be close and a Hatton's pressure will make it entertaining, but i can see Floyd winning on the cards.

PowerPuncher
08-06-2007, 08:48 AM
We shall see fellas. There's always a first time. And if Mayweather enjoys a punch up so much, why is he one of the world's saftly first fighters? Hatton will take him to places he doesn't want to be. Just because Floyd hasn't bailed out before doesn't mean he won't if the going gets really tough. His personality is flawed, that much is obvious.

Hatton has a better chance to beat . But to say Mayweather will lose based on the fact he isn't tough enough is ignorant and shows your lack of boxing knowledge. Mayweather has won fights with broken ribs, broken hands, injured shoulders aswell as taking powerpunches from Castillo that would have taken a lesser man out. Hatton literally said he wanted to quit against Virches when he had a cold.

Hatton could win by applying more pressure, outworking, outmuscling and outfighting Mayweather. It is possible. He could also land a brutal bodyblow that scores the KO. Thats all possible although I pick Mayweather to win a UD. Mayweather quiting is nearly impossible unless he takes a severe beating but that isn't really quiting unless you think Tyszu, Gatti and Joe Frazier are all quiters

His personality is flawed? Well guess what world class fighters don't always have the nicest. Floyd is tough son of a bitch in the ring

PowerPuncher
08-06-2007, 08:50 AM
Hatton will present a weaker defense than Delahoya and Judah and will present much more countering opportunities than Baldomir

Taffyy
08-06-2007, 11:58 AM
The key to the fight is this: If Hatton becomes aware of the embarassment that awaits him and STAYS HOME, then he may be able to make an excuse, (I got a nasty flu!) and continue his career. If he shows up, he's gonna be humiliated.
Why do cocks keep making stupid statements like this........???.........We all know that Floyd is the best technical boxer of our era but to totally right off an aggresive pressure fighter like Hatton is pure fucking ignorance..........:-(

sonny73
08-06-2007, 12:21 PM
Its going to be interesting how Mayweather digests the info of Hatton coming in at 140 instead of 147,might persuade him to stand in front more if he thinks he is 7 lbs heavier.Jabing and moving from a guy who is 7lbs lighter not only will be tiring it might look alittle embarrassing also

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 12:25 PM
As far as I'm concerned the absolute key to this fight is Mayweather's fighting heart. If he is prepared to actually fight and go to a very painful place he never has been before against a rough tough bruiser like Hatton,then his superior talent should see him through. Anything less than total and utter commitment to do whatever is necessary will result in a loss for Mayweather.

I just have a feeling that this fight will surprise most people and that Mayweather will bail out when the going gets too tough.
PBF's heart shouldn't be questioned. I guess you've never seen the Castillo or Hernandez fights have you? He has shown nothing but great heart and will in the ring. If you're looking for PBF to quit then you're just fooling yourself.:deal

Thread Stealer
08-06-2007, 12:29 PM
Listen, Jake La Motta is one of my favourite fighters of all time whilst Hatton doesn’t even register with me. The analogy is flawless and your attempts to repel it are week. In physical terms Ray Robinson was easily comparable to La Motta, what he lacked in power he made up for in both height and reach, he had an abundance of both over The Bronx Bull.


Robinson probably had power over LaMotta too. Robinson could still pack a punch at middleweight.

LaMotta had weight on Ray and an incredible chin though, and was more clever and crafty than often given credit for.

Pimp C
08-06-2007, 12:29 PM
Hatton took one shot at a time and with a flat footed fighter where hatton could just take a step back if he got rocked and tsyu never pursued him as he was tired as shit from round 8. Floyd does not have stamina problems and is smarter then tsyu or hatton in the ring. He will force hatton to box and if hatton comes in chasing with all this energy and being relentless as REG said He will get hit more and NEVER get in enough of his shots and by the later rounds he will wear down. Remember floyd goes to the body ..a whole lot...lol He will break hatton down and all the destiny and all this other garbage. Hattons only advantage in this fight is...I got to think about it. I dont see any that will win him the fight. Pressuring floyd means nothing. He has never faded and never ever buckled under any pressure.
The worst thing you can do against PBF is chase and follow him around the ring. Ricky will be picked apart if he does this.