Who can beat this man at 185 or even 205???

[Braveheart]

A. Silva is a BEAST!!!!!

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[Beebs]

I Think Toquinho Palahares or even GSP stand the best chance of people who haven't fought him at 185, Henderson of the people who have fought him. At 205 theres a few, but its hard to say. Thiago Silva maybe, Forrest Griffin I think matches up well at 205, but he could also get destroyed.

[sugarngold]

Silva is the man right now - but there are a few candidates out there. I wouldn't completely discount Dan Henderson's chances in a rematch.

And then there's always this guy:

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[jimmie]

Palhares would be very dangerous but hes so outmatched in the standup that I dont even wanna mention him. GSP would have the best chance at 185 IMO hes a guy that like alot of guys can take Anderson down but I believe he could actually do something GSPs GNP and BJJ skills have improved dramatically in the last couple of years and he could compete standing up with Anderson for some time. After that id like to see maybe how it goes with Gegard Mousasi that is a fight id love to see. Id give Henderson a chance but not a big one he was totally out classed standing up and cant really do much to Anderson on the ground he did pass his guard but for the most part in that 1st round Anderson controlled Henderson on the mat I dont see it being much different cause Henderson isnt one of those guys who adapts very well. 205 would be intresting I agree with Beebs Forrest would be a good match because hes just so well rounded but aside from that I feel like the other guys play into Silvas style.

[chimba]

Palhares would be very dangerous but hes so outmatched in the standup that I dont even wanna mention him. GSP would have the best chance at 185 IMO hes a guy that like alot of guys can take Anderson down but I believe he could actually do something GSPs GNP and BJJ skills have improved dramatically in the last couple of years and he could compete standing up with Anderson for some time. After that id like to see maybe how it goes with Gegard Mousasi that is a fight id love to see. Id give Henderson a chance but not a big one he was totally out classed standing up and cant really do much to Anderson on the ground he did pass his guard but for the most part in that 1st round Anderson controlled Henderson on the mat I dont see it being much different cause Henderson isnt one of those guys who adapts very well. 205 would be intresting I agree with Beebs Forrest would be a good match because hes just so well rounded but aside from that I feel like the other guys play into Silvas style.

I agree with Toquinho...no shot he would be kept at bay..horrible striking and the lenght disparity will factor in. Forget Thiago Silva, please...His JJ aint that much better than Silva and he will get killed if he gets macho and think his stand up is good.

Hendo...I was high on him beating Silva and thought maybe in a rematch he may do something different.. I rewatched the fight and for those who say that Hendo had a bad gameplan and should have taken Silva down..Watch the second round again, he tried hard constantly to take Silva down but couldnt...I see him losing again.

Forrest..no hes got the size but everything he does Silva does better..dont forget Silvas BJJ now..its improving as we speak.

Ill give GSP the best chance to beat him because he can take him down..Id still favor Anderson 70-30...First GSP cannot for 1 moment try to stand up..hell get waxed.. I dont know what he can do in Andersons guard, Andersons legs are so long that he can actually body lock GSP with ease..I can see them upkicks as well...But if GSP can just lay on him and keep busy enough..I can see a decision victory

[PUMPERG]

I Say Gsp, Could Match Up Wit Him

[rydersonthestorm]

i say rampage jackson beats him at 205

[eltorrente]

I can't see GSP beating him. Maybe he has a better chance than most at 185, but I just can't see it happening. Silva is just so calm, so skilled, and can do everything so well, that I think he'd KO GSP - prob hurt him with fists, then finish him with knees.

[Tuffnutz]

i say rampage jackson beats him at 205

Why?

How?

How dose Rampage beat him when he had so much trouble with Ninja, Shogun and Wand?

Rampage would be one of Silva easiest victores.

Thai clinch and it's all over.

I don't think anyone beats Silva at 205 if he's hungry and i even think he would beat all the UFC heavyweight's too including Randy and Nog. :shock:

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Cung Le??

[rydersonthestorm]

Why?

How?

How dose Rampage beat him when he had so much trouble with Ninja, Shogun and Wand?

Rampage would be one of Silva easiest victores.

Thai clinch and it's all over.

I don't think anyone beats Silva at 205 if he's hungry and i even think he would beat all the UFC heavyweight's too including Randy and Nog. :shock:
ninja fight was along time ago, and also shogun and wand are alot bigger than anderson silva, the size that makes the difference if rampage gets him down he can gnp or lay and prey him for victory.

[Tyga]

Rampage would be one of Silva easiest victores.

I'm sure he would. :bart

[jimmie]

Why?

How?

How dose Rampage beat him when he had so much trouble with Ninja, Shogun and Wand?

Rampage would be one of Silva easiest victores.

Thai clinch and it's all over.

I don't think anyone beats Silva at 205 if he's hungry and i even think he would beat all the UFC heavyweight's too including Randy and Nog. :shock:

Its not just the Thai clinch its just the all around Muay Thai that gives Rampage trouble. Remember how Forrest destroyed Rampages leg with those kicks in the 1st round.

[Tuffnutz]

I just cannot understand why anyone would give Rampage a hope in hell of winning this fight. :huh

Silva is 6'2 with a reach bigger than Shogun Or Wands and Shougn and Wand are not big 205lbers and Ninja is a 185lber.

Like Jimmmie said it's not all about the clinch either.

SIlva would pick Rampage apart and the only area Rampage beats Silva in is wrestling.

If the fight ever get's made and goes past the first round i'll be shocked.

Anderosn Silva is all wrong for Rampage.

In fact he's all wrong for the whole division. :lol:

[rydersonthestorm]

I just cannot understand why anyone would give Rampage a hope in hell of winning this fight. :huh

Silva is 6'2 with a reach bigger than Shogun Or Wands and Shougn and Wand are not big 205lbers and Ninja is a 185lber.

Like Jimmmie said it's not all about the clinch either.

SIlva would pick Rampage apart and the only area Rampage beats Silva in is wrestling.

If the fight ever get's made and goes past the first round i'll be shocked.

Anderosn Silva is all wrong for Rampage.

In fact he's all wrong for the whole division. :lol:
the fact that silva has fought at 170 before and shogun has fought at ehavyweight should tell you the real difference in size.

[concrete sledge]

GSP is far too small to tangle with Anderson at any weight.

[Tuffnutz]

the fact that silva has fought at 170 before and shogun has fought at ehavyweight should tell you the real difference in size.

If you think that Anderson Silva is too small to take the UFC Light Heavyweight title, you're crazy!

If Michael bisping can go to an SD with Rashad Evans then what do you think Anderson Silva woudl do?

Was Bisping too small to compete with the man who just destroyed Chuck Liddell and is now fighting for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title? :nut

[rydersonthestorm]

If you think that Anderson Silva is too small to take the UFC Light Heavyweight title, you're crazy!

If Michael bisping can go to an SD with Rashad Evans then what do you think Anderson Silva woudl do?

Was Bisping too small to compete with the man who just destroyed Chuck Liddell and is now fighting for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title? :nut
thats not how it works, forest is massive for a lhw and rashad is big as well, both alot bigger than silva. Silva may have the skills to negate the size but you don't know becuase he has never fought anyone that size before.:patsch

[rydersonthestorm]

GSP is far too small to tangle with Anderson at any weight.
not really as anderson has fought at 170 before.

[Tuffnutz]

thats not how it works, forest is massive for a lhw and rashad is big as well, both alot bigger than silva. Silva may have the skills to negate the size but you don't know becuase he has never fought anyone that size before.:patsch

If 185lb Michael bloody Bisping can go to an SD with Rashad Evans, who just flattened Chuck Liddell and is fighting for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title, then i'm pretty sure that Anderson SIlva would do a little bit better. :patsch

[Tuffnutz]

not really as anderson has fought at 170 before.

Skills pay the bills!

[rydersonthestorm]

If 185lb Michael bloody Bisping can go to an SD with Rashad Evans, who just flattened Chuck Liddell and is fighting for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title, then i'm pretty sure that Anderson SIlva would do a little bit better. :patsch
your pretty sure means fuck all son, bisping is now big for a 185 fighter and his style is differnet so the cmparison lacks. Forest griffin and rampage are a shit load bigger than anderson silva, silva has never fought anyone that big and has infact fought at welter before, how do yuo know that they will not just out muscle him. Look what rampage did to hendo simular style but outmuscled, i am not saying ramapge would defo beat silva but size and power might prove ore of a problem than you think.

[Cameron]

im tired of people saying gsp has a chance he realy dosnt he has no chin only the wreslting to beat him.

people that could the list is big the ufc mw division sucks and has like 4 top tens i think akiyama could, misaki could, cung lee coud striking but not on the ground, matt lindland could. the list goes on basically the ufcs mw division sucks and makes anderson look great.

[Cameron]

If 185lb Michael bloody Bisping can go to an SD with Rashad Evans, who just flattened Chuck Liddell and is fighting for the UFC Light Heavyweight Title, then i'm pretty sure that Anderson SIlva would do a little bit better. :patsch

that means shit chuck has always had a suspect chin and now that hes 39 its gone so is his ko power rashad dosnt have much ko power just chuck left his chin wide open and had his eyes closed and his lack of a chin = him getting koed. watch bisping fight ross in the ultimate fighter a guy thats currently fighting at ww and he got rocked. if he faught anderson it would be a hl level ko.

[Tuffnutz]

No shit Anderson would kill Bisping. :rolleyes:

Whats this crap about Chuck having a suspect chin and Rashad having no KO power?

I know that Chuck left himself open but to say there was no KO power in that shot is nonsense.

Rashad as shown that he can puinch with nasty KO power and kick with nasty KO power too.

Hotti, what you talking about Size and power?

Look what Anderson did with Henderson.

Rampage went a close 5 rounds with Henderson where as Silva made it look easy.

I think Rampage punches harder than Silva but he's not as accurate and Silva's kicks and knees are much harder than any punch Rampage could ever thow. Plus SIlva has an iron chin. Also Lee Murray hits harder than Rampage, believe that, and look how far his punching power got him against Anderson.

Shit Rampage does'nt even have any kicks or many knees' in his arsenal. :lol:

You are talking about weight here and discount the fact that Anderson is taller than Rampage with a bigger reach. Plus he's excellent with his BJJ on the ground.

If you think rampages stength as a wreslter would give SIlva problems then watch Silva vs Henderson again.

Rampage is taylor made for SIlva to the point where it's not even funny.

oh and james Irvin is taller, maybe even bigger built than Ramage too and fought at heavyweight like Rampage.

Silva destroyed him and made him look like nothing.

Silvas Thai boxing is better than Ninjas, Shoguns and Wands.

His knees and kicks are harder than all three and his muay Thai is better than all three.

You think Rampage stands a chance because he punches harder than Silva and he has better wreslting and more strength with his wrestling?

So did Lee murray and so did Dan Henderson.

Rampage will go the same way those guy's went.

His only hope is a big fat dose of luck otherwise he's getting a worse beating than Wand gave him. :lol:

[rydersonthestorm]

lee murray and hendo are not like rampage though so it's a poor comparison, silva might be fairly tall but the fact that he has fought at 170 before might suggest that he is a tall lankey build, rather than anywhere near as solid a build as rampage. If you watch the hendo fight you will see that he was giving silva a few problems with his wrestling until silva finished him.
Anderson is a great striker with good bjj lets not go overboard he isn't a bjj master by any means, with travis lutter giving him some problems in that department.
Rampage is much stronger than dan henderson and if he got silva to the ground he would find it hard to get up, i am not saying i think rampage would be favourite to beat silva but i think he has the best shot out of the fighters around.
I also think griffin has a better chance than most other guys mentioned as he has a good chin, alot of power and dwarfs silva, he might outweigh him by as much as 50lbs com fight time.

[chimba]

Ive reconsidered.. no one can beat at 185-205...Prime Couture would have the best chance.

[Beebs]

im tired of people saying gsp has a chance he realy dosnt he has no chin only the wreslting to beat him.

people that could the list is big the ufc mw division sucks and has like 4 top tens i think akiyama could, misaki could, cung lee coud striking but not on the ground, matt lindland could. the list goes on basically the ufcs mw division sucks and makes anderson look great.

Akiyama? You're out of your mind. Misaki probably not, but at least its not crazy.

What does your top ten look like with 6 non UFC 185ers? I would say Silva, Franklin, Henderson, Okami, and Marquardt would have to make the top 10.

[québecwarrior]

im tired of people saying gsp has a chance he realy dosnt he has no chin only the wreslting to beat him.

people that could the list is big the ufc mw division sucks and has like 4 top tens i think akiyama could, misaki could, cung lee coud striking but not on the ground, matt lindland could. the list goes on basically the ufcs mw division sucks and makes anderson look great.
GSP has no chin???:rofl :rofl :rofl
He was never knocked out in his career, the only times he was hurt, is when Serra caught him behind the ear and lost balance and didnt react well at all.
Fitch caught him at least with 2 really good shot, and GSP did take them well, Penn wasnt able to make him wobble. For a guy who has no chin, its not that bad:nut .

[rydersonthestorm]

GSP has no chin???:rofl :rofl :rofl
He was never knocked out in his career, the only times he was hurt, is when Serra caught him behind the ear and lost balance and didnt react well at all.
Fitch caught him at least with 2 really good shot, and GSP did take them well, Penn wasnt able to make him wobble. For a guy who has no chin, its not that bad:nut .
i don't think you have understood what the guy was saying, he meant that gsp didn't have a good enough chin to stand and strike with silva and that is best shot was to outwrestle him.

[québecwarrior]

i don't think you have understood what the guy was saying, he meant that gsp didn't have a good enough chin to stand and strike with silva and that is best shot was to outwrestle him.
There's not a lot of guy who has enough chin to take strike from Silva.
You need to be great at mixing your strike and your takedown to beat him. GSP is the better at it. Would he be able to do it? I dont know, the weight is an issue. If it's at 177lbs by exemple, it would advantage GSP than if it at 185lbs.
Silva is a big 185

[concrete sledge]

not really as anderson has fought at 170 before.

Even if he has. Anderson is 4 (or more) inches taller than GSP and has a definitive reach advantage. I can see where people would want to see this fight because as far as skills go, they match up well. However, no matter what weight they would possibly meet at, the height and reach advantage Silva has would be too much for GSP. And GSP's chin isn't the sharpest in the world either.

[québecwarrior]

Ive reconsidered.. no one can beat at 185-205...Prime Couture would have the best chance.
no one can beat him????

Machida, Evans, Griffin, Jackson COULD beat him.

Would they beat him? I dont know, but lets not act like they would have no chance....
In fact I would bet that Evans, Machida and Jackson would beat him.
Griffin is the only one that I wouldnt favor over him but he would be competitive...more than Franklin...

[chimba]

no one can beat him????

Machida, Evans, Griffin, Jackson COULD beat him.

Would they beat him? I dont know, but lets not act like they would have no chance....
In fact I would bet that Evans, Machida and Jackson would beat him.
Griffin is the only one that I wouldnt favor over him but he would be competitive...more than Franklin...

No Jackson wont beat him..Jackson couldnt even attemp a takedown on Forrest for fear of getting hit..He wont get close to Silva... Griffin will get raped, he does nothing that Silva doesnt do better. Machidas patience will not work against a more patient fighter..Silva will also have an advantage on the ground... Evan lol..this guy cant even take St. Pierre down..Ohh he will stand with Silva ad slug to his demise.

[québecwarrior]

what is funny that Evans can't take St. Pierre down(where did you read that)???:lol:
not a lot of guy can take him down..
And St. Pierre defence of takedown, is much more better than Silva's takedown defense who has been taking down by Travis ''no training'' Lutter and other as well.

Evans has all the tools to make it go to the decision.

[Beebs]

Silva has gotten very hard to take down, but even taking him down is hardly a victory, he has been absolutely great on the ground; subbing Lutter and Hendo is incredibly hard, only people named Nog have subbed Hendo until Silva, and it took big nog 2 fights and around a thousand attempts to do it.

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Fucking Beautiful (the first part, not the injury)

[chimba]

Silva has gotten very hard to take down, but even taking him down is hardly a victory, he has been absolutely great on the ground; subbing Lutter and Hendo is incredibly hard, only people named Nog have subbed Hendo until Silva, and it took big nog 2 fights and around a thousand attempts to do it.

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Fucking Beautiful (the first part, not the injury)

Agreed and Cote has a decent sprawl.. people use the lutter fight as an example.. Silva has been working on his TD defense for over a year ...Evans is a longshot to beat Silva..Evans is very timid, he is not agressive at all ang looks to counter and even if he gets Silva down, what the hell can he do to prevent it from getting stood up? Just diff class..Cote can beat evans

[québecwarrior]

Silva has gotten very hard to take down, but even taking him down is hardly a victory, he has been absolutely great on the ground; subbing Lutter and Hendo is incredibly hard, only people named Nog have subbed Hendo until Silva, and it took big nog 2 fights and around a thousand attempts to do it.

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Fucking Beautiful (the first part, not the injury)
but the Hendo sub victory, is much more due to Silva's strike than his BJJ..Hendo was hurt big time than Silva just finished him on the ground..like Fedor on Sylvia..
and yes that was a nice takedown defence transition to a takedown..but Cote's move was telegraphied in my opinion....

[québecwarrior]

Agreed and Cote has a decent sprawl.. people use the lutter fight as an example.. Silva has been working on his TD defense for over a year ...Evans is a longshot to beat Silva..Evans is very timid, he is not agressive at all ang looks to counter and even if he gets Silva down, what the hell can he do to prevent it from getting stood up? Just diff class..Cote can beat evans
But Evans is a very good wrestler, and improve his game each fight..
I'm pretty sure he can hold Silva down like he want I think. Evans is a very strong 205lbs

[chimba]

But Evans is a very good wrestler, and improve his game each fight..
I'm pretty sure he can hold Silva down like he want I think. Evans is a very strong 205lbs


Rewatched that Hendo fight..I love Hendo but the second round..contrary to what people have been saying, Hendo tried to take Silva down most of the round, he couldnt...Rashad is a freestyle wrestler..His shoots wont mean much to Silva...Its the greco roman guys who clinches like a couture that can take Silva down.

That Lutter fight, that was along time ago..One of those takedowns was due to Silva throwing a knee.. Nate wasnt able to do much...
But lastly, as we type here, Silva is sharpening his BJJ and wrestling skills and it shows everytime he fights, watch the way he tripped NAte down. I can see him ending up on top of rashad and then what does rashad do?

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Cung Le would be competitive in a stand up and he is a great wrestler as well.

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If Couture beats Lesnar perhaps a Couture vs Anderson Silva at 205

[ryanty22]

i'd put all my money on money mayweather to whip silvas ass standing or on the ground theres nothing mayweather cant do

[chimba]

Cung Le would be competitive in a stand up and he is a great wrestler as well.

Actually this is the guy that many dismisses but I see as a good matchup with Silva. The guy can strike with the best of them, he doesnt have scary power but neither does Silva. Terrific matchup. Id still give Silva the adv

[Beebs]

i'd put all my money on money mayweather to whip silvas ass standing or on the ground theres nothing mayweather cant do

Shut the fuck up

[ryanty22]

Shut the fuck up

i was being sarcastic, im sure there are some asses in the general forum that do believe that though. Silva is a bad man and the best until someone proves him otherwise which might be awhile. i dont see anyone even at 205 that can definately beat him