Who here seriously inside of them actualy beleive Ricky stand a chance??

[DoumB]

OK, let me start this by stating the fact that I actualy didnt like Hatton but through his last fights kinda learned to atleast admire him even tho I didnt like his style... On the other hand you all no I'm not a huge fan of floyd anymore but I'm no where near hating him.

That being said I checked and tried to analyze how this fight could go out and I couldnt see ricky getting the nod in this one... Its not like if I dont want him to win, in fact I dont care who wins but I cant realy I just cant think of a way Ricky could beat floyd,

Ricky style could trouble Floyd yes, its true, however Floyd had trouble with castillo when he was at the lower weights, his body since has grew comfortly for 140-147(even if hes a small 147pounder) he can stay in there with opponents a long stronger then him, Hatton while a strong cat is not as strong as guys like DLH or even for that matter Baldomir(hes faster then him and better of course) but Hatton is coming in at junior welterweight, He wont be able to bully floyd in there, in fact I think it may shorten(if this words exist) the fight cause floyd will tag him on his way in and move with angles and tag him, look at the blue print collazo put in there, Floyd is faster, not as strong but more accurate and technicaly a lot better(but hes not a southpaw) ...

In the end I realy beleive ricky dont stand a chance in hell against floyd, I mean sometimes u say those things but inside u have something that says, maybe he could pull it out... But in this one I just cant see it... any one think ricky can win this? I would wanna hear what u guys think, I'm not dissing anyone on that I would love to hear a different point of vue and the analys that come with it:good

[compukiller]

I give him virtually no chance at all.

[DoumB]

I give him virtually no chance at all.

thx for your contribution compu :good ;)

[hitman_hatton1]

i definitely give hatton a chance.

mayweather's more cautious style as he's gone up the weights, and combined with the fact i think he's a little slower these days, are 2 reasons i think ricky will win a close decision. :bbb

bring on december 8th. :deal

[Flatlander]

In boxing every fighter has a chance, no matter how slim. Floyd would have to have his worst night ever for Hatton to beat him though.

[boobie]

Ive read alot about this and heard people talking obviously. I have a feeling Hatton will pull it off. However unimportant it is to some people, Floyd had said he retired. He seems to have one foot out the door. What I love about boxing is mental aspect of it. Hatton is hungry (no weight jokes intended) I just think Hatton will pull it off for some reason. So much pressure and works the body like Floyd hasn't seen in awhile. Dont sleep on Hatton

[DoumB]

i definitely give hatton a chance.

mayweather's more cautious style as he's gone up the weights, and combined with the fact i think he's a little slower these days, are 2 reasons i think ricky will win a close decision. :bbb

bring on december 8th. :deal

yeah but do you think floyd is slow enough to get caugh often by ricky?

[DoumB]

Ive read alot about this and heard people talking obviously. I have a feeling Hatton will pull it off. However unimportant it is to some people, Floyd had said he retired. He seems to have one foot out the door. What I love about boxing is mental aspect of it. Hatton is hungry (no weight jokes intended) I just think Hatton will pull it off for some reason. So much pressure and works the body like Floyd hasn't seen in awhile. Dont sleep on Hatton

I see your point, thats something true.

[hitman_hatton1]

cause floyd will tag him on his way in and move with angles and tag him, look at the blue print collazo put in there, Floyd is faster, not as strong but more accurate and technicaly a lot better(but hes not a southpaw)

i agree what collazo did (at times) is the blueprint.

but floyd for a start doesn't throw as many punches as collazo.

isn't a southpaw.

isn't as big.

:hey

[DoumB]

i agree what collazo did (at times) is the blueprint.

but floyd for a start doesn't throw as many punches as collazo.

isn't a southpaw.

isn't as big.

:hey

your right, but hes a lot smarter then him tho, if collazo would had tried to use more of his streng when hatton got close I think he oculd had got the victory

[hitman_hatton1]

yeah but do you think floyd is slow enough to get caugh often by ricky?

he's hittable.

baldy nailed floyd with good shots at times.

obviously so did oscar.

as i said, floyd is a little slower these days. :yep

hatton has a chance.

only a fool completely discounts his chances i think. :bart

[Rock0052]

Ive read alot about this and heard people talking obviously. I have a feeling Hatton will pull it off. However unimportant it is to some people, Floyd had said he retired. He seems to have one foot out the door. What I love about boxing is mental aspect of it. Hatton is hungry (no weight jokes intended) I just think Hatton will pull it off for some reason. So much pressure and works the body like Floyd hasn't seen in awhile. Dont sleep on Hatton

Agreed. What I don't get is how some of the people giving Hatton zero chance will be the same ones talking about what a legacy-making win it was for Mayweather if he wins. I don't hate Mayweather, but somehow just saying he's not unbeatable gets construed that way.

I'll be rooting for Hatton, and I do think he can pull it off.

[DoumB]

Agreed. What I don't get is how some of the people giving Hatton zero chance will be the same ones talking about what a legacy-making win it was for Mayweather if he wins. I don't hate Mayweather, but somehow just saying he's not unbeatable gets construed that way.

I'll be rooting for Hatton, and I do think he can pull it off.

well if actualy floyd absolutly anhilates hatton it kinda tell u how good he is( I'm not pointing out this to praise floyd but to make an observation)

[BigReg]

he's hittable.

baldy nailed floyd with good shots at times.

obviously so did oscar.

as i said, floyd is a little slower these days. :yep

hatton has a chance.

only a fool completely discounts his chances i think. :bart

Baldo landed 12% of his shots, Oscar landed 21%. Defensively I thought Floyd was brilliant in those fights. Hatton's only chance is to exploit Mayweather's lack of activity

[T.C.W]

I think mayweather will win easy, just to much skill and he will give Hatton fits with movement and speed.

[DoumB]

he's hittable.

baldy nailed floyd with good shots at times.

obviously so did oscar.

as i said, floyd is a little slower these days. :yep

hatton has a chance.

only a fool completely discounts his chances i think. :bart

dont get me wrong, I just dont think he could win, not that I wouldnt wanna see him in there and give floyd a run for his money but I just dont see happening, its rare that on the elite level I feel this way

[igotJUIC3]

every fighter has a chance as long as they are in the ring and punching you never know...HOWEVER...we are not dealing with just anybody....we all know how precise PBF is and how cautious he is....he only fights HIS FIGHT.

PBf has always been hittable...so seeing him hit by ODh or Baldy does not mean he has slowed down any because he has been hit several times before...means nothing. I dont see Hatton winning simply because PBf wont fight his fight at all...all of Hattons opponents were willing to stay in front of him...all of them and the ones who tried not to simply are not on the level that PBF is on...this is a fact Hatton has not seen anyone close to what PBF is but PBf has seen a pressure fight(Castillo in his prime pushed PBF the hardest till this day with great pressure) as a pressure fighter can be a dime a dozen...now granted the level of Hattons pressure at his wieght class is almost second to none BUT...who's style can you prepare for best? You can prepare for what Hatton does much better than you can prepare for PBF...ODh even went to get someone who can be considered as on PBF's level and while it may have helped a little the outcome still was the same even with the height advantage and reach advantage...something Hatton doesnt have neither of....castillo the same thing taller longer both had solid jabs....Hatton has none of these this is why he has a very SLIM chance unless he develops some kind of outside boxing skills between now and then.

[PrideOfWales]

Floyd should be able to box Hatton's ears off. Sounds easy to say but the key word is "should". Hatton will keep coming at Mayweather all night long. For this fight, Hatton will be in the best shape of his life, no two ways about it. He's not the slickest of boxers but Ricky's skills are somewhat under-rated.. especially in the US after recent fights. PBF and his band of monkeys are in for a tough fight. Ricky will be there for the whole 12 rounds. He may take a bit of a battering in a boxing sense but I've got a feeling that Hatton will catch up with Floyd around rounds 9 and 10 and nail him with some sickening shots which will make the end very interesting.

Mayweather to win on points with the final bell ringing just about in time for Floyd.

[hitman_hatton1]

so seeing him hit by ODh or Baldy does not mean he has slowed down any because he has been hit several times before...means nothing.

i still think he's slower these days.

he's still quick of course. :bbb

hatton is an under rated punch picker and his quality doesn't drop off in fights.

december 8th = ricky hatton p4p no1 night. :yep

[Dantes]

OK, let me start this by stating the fact that I actualy didnt like Hatton but through his last fights kinda learned to atleast admire him even tho I didnt like his style... On the other hand you all no I'm not a huge fan of floyd anymore but I'm no where near hating him.

That being said I checked and tried to analyze how this fight could go out and I couldnt see ricky getting the nod in this one... Its not like if I dont want him to win, in fact I dont care who wins but I cant realy I just cant think of a way Ricky could beat floyd,

Ricky style could trouble Floyd yes, its true, however Floyd had trouble with castillo when he was at the lower weights, his body since has grew comfortly for 140-147(even if hes a small 147pounder) he can stay in there with opponents a long stronger then him, Hatton while a strong cat is not as strong as guys like DLH or even for that matter Baldomir(hes faster then him and better of course) but Hatton is coming in at junior welterweight, He wont be able to bully floyd in there, in fact I think it may shorten(if this words exist) the fight cause floyd will tag him on his way in and move with angles and tag him, look at the blue print collazo put in there, Floyd is faster, not as strong but more accurate and technicaly a lot better(but hes not a southpaw) ...

In the end I realy beleive ricky dont stand a chance in hell against floyd, I mean sometimes u say those things but inside u have something that says, maybe he could pull it out... But in this one I just cant see it... any one think ricky can win this? I would wanna hear what u guys think, I'm not dissing anyone on that I would love to hear a different point of vue and the analys that come with it:good

I agree that Floyd will win. But if you think Floyd's gonna do this easy, you're sadly mistaken. Hatton will give Floyd the fight of his life..make no mistake. Hatton does not have the ring smarts and technique of Floyd, but he is relentless, he is always is superb fitness, and he will be awkward to fight. Throw in a punchers' chance, a lot of hugging and rabbit punching and you've got yourself an interesting matchup.

The beautiful thing about this fight is at the end, one of these undefeated guys is gonna lose their '0'.:good

[Dantes]

Floyd should be able to box Hatton's ears off. Sounds easy to say but the key word is "should". Hatton will keep coming at Mayweather all night long. For this fight, Hatton will be in the best shape of his life, no two ways about it. He's not the slickest of boxers but Ricky's skills are somewhat under-rated.. especially in the US after recent fights. PBF and his band of monkeys are in for a tough fight. Ricky will be there for the whole 12 rounds. He may take a bit of a battering in a boxing sense but I've got a feeling that Hatton will catch up with Floyd around rounds 9 and 10 and nail him with some sickening shots which will make the end very interesting.

Mayweather to win on points with the final bell ringing just about in time for Floyd.

:good

[DoumB]

I agree that Floyd will win. But if you think Floyd's gonna do this easy, you're sadly mistaken. Hatton will give Floyd the fight of his life..make no mistake. Hatton does not have the ring smarts and technique of Floyd, but he is relentless, he is always is superb fitness, and he will be awkward to fight. Throw in a punchers' chance, a lot of hugging and rabbit punching and you've got yourself an interesting matchup.

The beautiful thing about this fight is at the end, one of these undefeated guys is gonna lose their '0'.:good

I no what ur saying thats why I said hattons style could trouble PBF but in the end PBF is soooo smart inside the ring that he will adjust

[Beebs]

I firmly belive Hatton has a chance, my view may be skewed since I am a much bigger fan of Hatton than Floyd, but stylistically, its there for him to win, its just a matter of if he can make the gameplan work. Hatton has the possiblity to hurt Floyd to the body unlike any fighter Floyd has fought, yes including a prime Castillo and the DLH of 2007.

Hatton will be the stronger man, and if he can get on the inside, get his overhook with his right arm on Floyds left, and batter him with those ripping left hooks to the liver, he could win this fight.

[hahahax]

he's hittable.

baldy nailed floyd with good shots at times.

obviously so did oscar.

as i said, floyd is a little slower these days. :yep

hatton has a chance.

only a fool completely discounts his chances i think. :bart

We'll see who the fools are eventually, but let me just say they live on an island in north-western europe. Hope that helps, fool. ;)

[pipe wrenched]

I most def. mean no disrespect for Hatton or any of his fans, because you most likely are pretty damn good to be over 40 fights undefeated, however I honestly can't see Ricky beating floyd no way, no how. IMO.

[igotJUIC3]

Floyd should be able to box Hatton's ears off. Sounds easy to say but the key word is "should". Hatton will keep coming at Mayweather all night long. For this fight, Hatton will be in the best shape of his life, no two ways about it. He's not the slickest of boxers but Ricky's skills are somewhat under-rated.. especially in the US after recent fights. PBF and his band of monkeys are in for a tough fight. Ricky will be there for the whole 12 rounds. He may take a bit of a battering in a boxing sense but I've got a feeling that Hatton will catch up with Floyd around rounds 9 and 10 and nail him with some sickening shots which will make the end very interesting.

Mayweather to win on points with the final bell ringing just about in time for Floyd.

listen we all know Hatton holds a lot so if you ask me thats why his stamina is proclaimed to be so good...what happens when he cant hold and get those breathers he has been so customed to? For 12 rounds this man will have to ask his body to constantly stay moving while throwing.....name the last time you seen him have to chase a fighter....and not get off a lot of clinching? I think hatton in later rounds will be very very tired for one he will have to work WAY harder to score...two when he does get a chance to score he will use everything he got to make it count(cant blame him) in doing so though he will tire himself, and third PBf will be fighting as well so add on some more fatigue for his shots. I think people will be shocked to see how tired Hatton will be..not to say he wont keep coming forward he will but it only will get even uglier.

[ajohnfp]

I don't see why so many are saying this fight is unwinnable. Hatton is a good fighter, a real good fighter, and he is stylistically not an easy match for Floyd. It's not a gimme by any means.

[PrideOfWales]

listen we all know Hatton holds a lot so if you ask me thats why his stamina is proclaimed to be so good...what happens when he cant hold and get those breathers he has been so customed to? For 12 rounds this man will have to ask his body to constantly stay moving while throwing.....name the last time you seen him have to chase a fighter....and not get off a lot of clinching? I think hatton in later rounds will be very very tired for one he will have to work WAY harder to score...two when he does get a chance to score he will use everything he got to make it count(cant blame him) in doing so though he will tire himself, and third PBf will be fighting as well so add on some more fatigue for his shots. I think people will be shocked to see how tired Hatton will be..not to say he wont keep coming forward he will but it only will get even uglier.

I agree with most of your points and I can see Hatton looking like an amateur for the first half of the fight. But he'll still be there and there'll come a time in this fight when he'll back PBF up and hurt him. Just like you, I am sure Floyd will underestimate Hatton's ability and heart in this fight. Ricky's no washed up ODLH. Just make sure you stay tuned for the later rounds because they'll be different to how you predict.

[GazOC]

I don't think PBFs punch output is what it was either, keeping a young hungry pressure fighter might pose problems. Floyds the favorite sure, but it'll be a good fight.

[Beebs]

listen we all know Hatton holds a lot so if you ask me thats why his stamina is proclaimed to be so good...what happens when he cant hold and get those breathers he has been so customed to? For 12 rounds this man will have to ask his body to constantly stay moving while throwing.....name the last time you seen him have to chase a fighter....and not get off a lot of clinching? I think hatton in later rounds will be very very tired for one he will have to work WAY harder to score...two when he does get a chance to score he will use everything he got to make it count(cant blame him) in doing so though he will tire himself, and third PBf will be fighting as well so add on some more fatigue for his shots. I think people will be shocked to see how tired Hatton will be..not to say he wont keep coming forward he will but it only will get even uglier.

You are totally misunderstanding how Hatton uses the clinch, with the exception of the Collazo fight and parts of the Urango fights, which he was clearly off form, he does not use the clinch to rest at all.

Quite the opposite, Hatton uses the clinch to wear his enemy down, and inflict as much pain as possible he isn't in there resting, he is in there working, what he does better than anybody else that I've seen, is know how to properly utilize under and overhooks, in that he uses control over his opponent to move them where he wants, both putting them in harms way and wearing on them, and then blasting away with hooks to the body and head. He doesn't go in there and hug the guy like a Ruiz, he usually gets the overhook, with his arm on the outside, not the inside, which allows him to work his hips much more effectively and actually make the other guy hold because the other guys arm is now inside of Hattons and they naturally hold from there, which he did to perfection against Castillo.

[igotJUIC3]

You are totally misunderstanding how Hatton uses the clinch, with the exception of the Collazo fight and parts of the Urango fights, which he was clearly off form, he does not use the clinch to rest at all.

Quite the opposite, Hatton uses the clinch to wear his enemy down, and inflict as much pain as possible he isn't in there resting, he is in there working, what he does better than anybody else that I've seen, is know how to properly utilize under and overhooks, in that he uses control over his opponent to move them where he wants, both putting them in harms way and wearing on them, and then blasting away with hooks to the body and head. He doesn't go in there and hug the guy like a Ruiz, he usually gets the overhook, with his arm on the outside, not the inside, which allows him to work his hips much more effectively and actually make the other guy hold because the other guys arm is now inside of Hattons and they naturally hold from there, which he did to perfection against Castillo.


good argument.....i still think he is resting jsut as much as it is part of his offense because i have seen him hold and not throw anything worthwhile or not throw at all before the ref breaks it up..but your point is understandable.

[nulty]

I give Hatton a good chance in fact I'll be betting on him. PBF's punch output recently is way to low to bother Ricky. Hatton will be relentless for 12 rounds. DLH would have clearly beat PBF if he hadn't gassed in the championship rounds. Now DLH used his superior jab to get inside on Floyd, Hatton doesn't have that jab but his height, speed and movement can get him past PBFs jab. Also Hatton won't be fighting in 15-20 second bursts like Oscar did.

Hatton will bust him up on the inside and take the win.

[igotJUIC3]

I agree with most of your points and I can see Hatton looking like an amateur for the first half of the fight. But he'll still be there and there'll come a time in this fight when he'll back PBF up and hurt him. Just like you, I am sure Floyd will underestimate Hatton's ability and heart in this fight. Ricky's no washed up ODLH. Just make sure you stay tuned for the later rounds because they'll be different to how you predict.


could be...im a resonable man..this could very well be true but....PBF doesnt underestimate his opponents....he may talk a big game but trust he knows completely of what Hatton's strengths are....PBF is a true student..no matter how much you dislike him....he knows what he is doing in that ring and adapts...can hatton adapt to PBF's awkwardness? Can he resort to another gameplan besides bullying in and enforcing his will when PBF maneuvers away from such tactics? We have seen PBF adjust....i dont think we have seen Hatton adjust....i say this because he couldnt adjust against Collazo and i know you say he is different but you still can adjust and thats something i have yet to see him do...BUT in his defense he really hasnt had to...which could be a plus or minus,

[Beebs]

good argument.....i still think he is resting jsut as much as it is part of his offense because i have seen him hold and not throw anything worthwhile or not throw at all before the ref breaks it up..but your point is understandable.

I think its usually one or the other, when hes using it to be offensive, its probably more draining on him than fighting from any other position, but when he uses it to hang on, it gives him a breather, I was just trying to explain how the offensive side of it works.:good

[BeaverDan]

I believe Hatton has a decent chance.

Fact is neither fighter has fought anybody like their opponent before. People say Floyd fought Castillo but Castillo isn't Hatton. Both fighters will be studying tapes, but on a tape it isn't YOU fighting them and getting hit in the face and the guts.

People who say Ricky can't come forward eating shots for 12 rounds shouldn't ignore that Floyd can't run backwards THROWING shots for 12 rounds.

I have only seen 4 or 5 Floyd fights but 1 thing I noticed most of all is that he inevitably ends up with his back against the ropes at some stages of the fight. That's perfect for Hatton because it will allow him to stand off Floyd and throw a lot of shots from the hip, which are very effective. On those situations I think Hatton will be throwing more than Floyd, but Floyd seems to block, roll and parry shots do damn well.

If the fight goes the distance then it's a Mayweather UD. Hatton will have to knock him out, which I can't envisage.

I give Hatton a 30% chance.

[BeReal]

I look at it just the opposite of most. I think FLOYD wears down hatton over 12 rounds and rips Fatton's body. Floyd wide UD or late stoppage

[Grinder]

Let's analyse a few issues:

weight = 147
- Hatton looked terrible at 147, his trainer admitted this fact = +PBF
- Floyd has beaten a few bums at 147 and another has-been at 154, but has probably looked better than Hatton = +PBF
- PBF does not carry power to these weights, meaning Hatton should be able to walk him down, even though he is coming up in weight =+Hatton
- Hatton's power at this weight is questionable =+PBF

Referee
- If he allows Hatton to wrestle, it will favour him.

Crowd
- I assume they are fighting in the US? A Manchester crowd will help Hatton. A US crowd won't make too much difference.

Pedigree
- PBF has been fighting bums for a long time but he has beaten some great fighters, however none above 140 (ODLH was great, but he is a pork chop now).
- Hatton's best win was against a past-his-prime KT. It was a good performance, but not great. His defeat of JLC was good but it was clear JLC was there to pay off some debts.

Speed
PBF by a long way

Stamina
Close, both are well-conditioned fighters. This will be bad for Hatton who can wear opponents down, since he won't be able to do this against PBF.

Defence
PBF by a mile

Power
Hatton might possess more power than PBF but it is hard to be sure.

Chin
Hatton - I think PBF will go down if he is hit cleanly. Why? Because he hasn't been hit cleanly and his body is not conditioned to it - but Hatton will have less than a 5% chance of landing a full power shot on the button over 12 rounds.


I think PBF sees this as easy money and an easy fight, particularly because of the weight. I tend to agree with him, but don't discount an undefeated fighter with heart, chin and stamina even against a model fighter like PBF. I think Hatton will try to get down and dirty to try to stir Floyd up mentally. Does the ref step in? Who knows? Does Hatton carry enough strength and power to 147 to cause PBF and discomfort? Not sure, but I would guess he is on the 'roids (joking)/weights right now.

Conclusion: If Hatton can cause discomfort to PBF in terms of strength, power, consistent pressure, man-handling and body shots, he has a chance at a late TKO. This is fairly unlikely given the past and if PBF trains and takes this fight seriously, which is pretty much a guarantee.

Prediction: PBF by UD 117-111.

You heard it here first!!! (Go Fatton!!)

[Seamus]

i I think hatton is average at best.

working hard to earn your moniker.

[Toopretty]

Floyd has a chin..lol he trains to take a punch though he dont get hit. His kneck is solid and when he got tagged by judah, odh or whoever else he did not get hurt at all. Corley wobbled him with a shot he didnt see. That was the only time I seen him actually hurt by a punch. Hattons chance is if Floyd tries to engage him and be the aggressor which he is not really his MO. But he wont. He will box hatton and hattons fans will be in awe on how a boxer can force a pressure fighter to box. Especially pressure fighters with short reach and not good combination punching. Hatton cant cut no ring off against floyd. LOL that is a joke. Hatton looked good against fighters that just stood there like statues or came right at him and tried to fight him his fight(castillo)

[BobDigi5060]

He stands a chance but the only way I see him winning is outwilling Floyd. From round one we will see the gap in all around boxing ability as Ricky will catch leather and air. He'll land but I see Mayweather doubling in landed punches in the first few rounds.

The only way I can imagine him winning is in a Creed/Balboa II type fight.

[Fallow]

If Jake La Motta, who was crude when compared to the more educated pressure of Hatton, can score a couple of wins against the greatest fighter to have ever laced them up then Hatton stands at least as good a chance of beating Mayweather.

There are very feasible scenarios that lead to a Hatton victory, most notably the one that sees Hatton completely shutting the ring off and keeping his head on Mayweather’s chest whilst relentlessly hammering away in a very rough and dirty close-quarters fight.

Remember, Floyd will need to keep Hatton at distance to win this fight as easily as many of you are predicting and that is something that 43 men have failed to do.

I do still favour Floyd in this one and believe that his speed and accuracy will be too much for the Manchester man, but one would be foolish to write Hatton off.

[smokey]

I think Hattons ugly grappling style has a chance to negate Floyd's speed advantage and win the fight... a good chance actually. It largely depends on he ref. If they get Jay Nady, Hatton is going to get brutalized and probably quit on his stool.

[Lance_Uppercut]

Of course he has a chance. Anyone who says differently is a Mayweather fanboy....

[Silver]

everybody has a chance. but as someone else already said, hatton has to make the fight as ugly as possible and will himself to victory because mayweather has the clear advantage in talent and skill.

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

Ricky's only chance is if they get a Greco-Roman wrestling-friendly referee like Frank ******'s ol' pal Dave Parris (who let Ricky dryhump Tszyu all night long) or Robert Byrd (he of the Hopkins-Wright hugfest).

That way he can neutralize Floyd's mobility and ability to kill you on the outside by holding and brawling on the inside...note again by holding.

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

And if anyone could bust up Floyd's ribs, it's Ricky. He's just gotta do what he did to Castillo. Use that jab to work his way inside, throw a range-finding right cross, then use that right arm to lock Floyd's left arm under his armpit. Then, go to work on a one-armed Floyd's ribs.

[Sweet Pea Pacquiao]

But if I had to put money down, I pick Floyd by mid-to-late referee stoppage.

[smokey]

And if anyone could bust up Floyd's ribs, it's Ricky. He's just gotta do what he did to Castillo. Use that jab to work his way inside, throw a range-finding right cross, then use that right arm to lock Floyd's left arm under his armpit. Then, go to work on a one-armed Floyd's ribs.

That what I never liked about Hatton. It seems like his primary "style" involves a heavy reliance on a completely illegal move: holding and hitting. He doesn't just hold and hit, either. He throws opponents into an armlock and hits them.

I think he's been working on refining it into something that will slip by American refs more. He seemed to do it fairly well against Castillo. He would lock him up, and then let go and swing a shot or two... then lock him up again. Even in that fight he was starting to get warned for holding.

Still, that nasty style seems to have survived its trial run in America... and it DOES negate speed. I think it will interesting to see how it plays out, but this fight has so many ways it can go bad and turn into a horrible fight to watch. Mayweather running and slinging one shot at a time, Hatton one punch and grabbing, or a combination of the two.

[The Kurgan]

Baldo landed 12% of his shots, Oscar landed 21%. Defensively I thought Floyd was brilliant in those fights. Hatton's only chance is to exploit Mayweather's lack of activity

If Hatton lands 21% of his punches, at his workrate, he will win a wide decision. He won't, but I think he has a good chance at landing something like 17% and combining that with being the aggressor he could win enough rounds to pull off the upset.

This fight all depends on (a) what each boxer brings to the table (b) how much of it they actually put on the table and (c) what their respective strategies for putting stuff on the table are. Bearing all this in mind, what both of them need is a lesson in carpentry.

[David UK]

He stands a chance but the only way I see him winning is outwilling Floyd. From round one we will see the gap in all around boxing ability as Ricky will catch leather and air. He'll land but I see Mayweather doubling in landed punches in the first few rounds.

The only way I can imagine him winning is in a Creed/Balboa II type fight.

Hatton's boxing ability is serverely underrated. He's a much better technician than many give him credit for.

[paulfv]

Ricky definitely has a chance. I doubted him, but after the Tszyu fight I changed my mind. At 140, this would be a better fight, IMO, but Hatton is still stronger than PBF and will be all over him. I still feel PBF wins, though.

[AllyT]

I believe this fight is difficult to call. Despite his BS I think Mayweather will be taking this fight very seriously indeed as will Hatton. Sooner or later the fight will become a war and this is where Hatton has a chance to win. The most likley outcome for me is a battered and bruised Mayweather taking a 'home town decision' based on his work in the early rounds but If Hatton is on top of his game and if Mayweather believes he can simply stroll back from retirement to pick up an easy win, Hatton could stop him in the first half of the fight.

[ozziebattler]

Let's analyse a few issues:

weight = 147
- Hatton looked terrible at 147, his trainer admitted this fact = +PBF
- Floyd has beaten a few bums at 147 and another has-been at 154, but has probably looked better than Hatton = +PBF
- PBF does not carry power to these weights, meaning Hatton should be able to walk him down, even though he is coming up in weight =+Hatton
- Hatton's power at this weight is questionable =+PBF

Referee
- If he allows Hatton to wrestle, it will favour him.

Crowd
- I assume they are fighting in the US? A Manchester crowd will help Hatton. A US crowd won't make too much difference.

Pedigree
- PBF has been fighting bums for a long time but he has beaten some great fighters, however none above 140 (ODLH was great, but he is a pork chop now).
- Hatton's best win was against a past-his-prime KT. It was a good performance, but not great. His defeat of JLC was good but it was clear JLC was there to pay off some debts.

Speed
PBF by a long way

Stamina
Close, both are well-conditioned fighters. This will be bad for Hatton who can wear opponents down, since he won't be able to do this against PBF.

Defence
PBF by a mile

Power
Hatton might possess more power than PBF but it is hard to be sure.

Chin
Hatton - I think PBF will go down if he is hit cleanly. Why? Because he hasn't been hit cleanly and his body is not conditioned to it - but Hatton will have less than a 5% chance of landing a full power shot on the button over 12 rounds.


I think PBF sees this as easy money and an easy fight, particularly because of the weight. I tend to agree with him, but don't discount an undefeated fighter with heart, chin and stamina even against a model fighter like PBF. I think Hatton will try to get down and dirty to try to stir Floyd up mentally. Does the ref step in? Who knows? Does Hatton carry enough strength and power to 147 to cause PBF and discomfort? Not sure, but I would guess he is on the 'roids (joking)/weights right now.

Conclusion: If Hatton can cause discomfort to PBF in terms of strength, power, consistent pressure, man-handling and body shots, he has a chance at a late TKO. This is fairly unlikely given the past and if PBF trains and takes this fight seriously, which is pretty much a guarantee.

Prediction: PBF by UD 117-111.

You heard it here first!!! (Go Fatton!!)

You didnt hear the crowd at the Hatton vs Castillo bout did you??

Mate i know for a fact that their will be atleast 5thousand poms at the fight and 5 thousand drunk poms supporting hatton will sound like 50thousand raving lunatics..

See people dont realise that hatton aint just fighting for the mantle of p4p number 1 or for a few million bucks,hatton is fighting for the whole of england..

Americans just dont get shit...How good will it be when a ugly little englishmen throws a beatdown on your bling bling wearing gang bang pretending poser...

OH NO THAT CANT HAPPEN BECAUSE FLOYDS UNBEATABLE.He's TO SKILLFUL FOR THAT SLOW HIT HIT GRAB POM WHO AINT IN THE SAME LEAGUE AS OUR PREEEEEEEEEETTTTYYYYYYYY BOY..

its boxing fuckers..50% chance you will be crying come december 8...

Thats the real odds...

I like sitting here down under watching the yanks continuely pick on what the thought were the weak and than get stunned when they get bitten....

Hatton is PBF'S iraq.......

[HopkinsFan]

well ofcourse his got a chance, if nothing else a punchers chance but i think he has a fair deal more. his hook, hold and wrestling style COULD trouble mayweather. A huge could, because pbf proved roughing him up won't do the deed when DLH tried in the earlier rounds.. but it could win some rounds
that's my two cents anyway

[Gneus7]

Hatton by KO. Or he'll at least give Mayweather the hardest fight of his life.

[MacManJr.]

he's hittable.

baldy nailed floyd with good shots at times.

obviously so did oscar.

as i said, floyd is a little slower these days. :yep

hatton has a chance.

only a fool completely discounts his chances i think. :bartIf Oscar couldnt hurt him do you really think Hatton can?

[ozziebattler]

If Oscar couldnt hurt him do you really think Hatton can?

Obviously he does...:patsch

And so do i:good

[roly]

Baldo landed 12% of his shots, Oscar landed 21%. Defensively I thought Floyd was brilliant in those fights. Hatton's only chance is to exploit Mayweather's lack of activity

fighting twice a year is hardly inactive

[freethinker]

He mean by that that Floyd doesn't throw a lot of punches

[Gsand]

listen we all know Hatton holds a lot so if you ask me thats why his stamina is proclaimed to be so good...what happens when he cant hold and get those breathers he has been so customed to? For 12 rounds this man will have to ask his body to constantly stay moving while throwing.....name the last time you seen him have to chase a fighter....and not get off a lot of clinching? I think hatton in later rounds will be very very tired for one he will have to work WAY harder to score...two when he does get a chance to score he will use everything he got to make it count(cant blame him) in doing so though he will tire himself, and third PBf will be fighting as well so add on some more fatigue for his shots. I think people will be shocked to see how tired Hatton will be..not to say he wont keep coming forward he will but it only will get even uglier.

actually he's only started holding so much in recent fights

in approx 35 fights he just bounced around for 12 rounds pounding on people so this is a fairly moot point imo

[GazOC]

Mayweather beats Hatton no doubt Hatton just wants a cash-out bout to go into his retirement fund, Dont be surprised when he announces his retirement after his bout with pbf. Hatton knows he cant match pbf skill level in any weight class.:deal

Trust me, there is no way Hatton will retire after this fight. He'll just drop back down to 140 and still be the man there and earn well for the next couple of years.

[Pimp C]

PBF will give Ricky a boxing lesson come Dec 8th. Ricky has short arms doesn't jab and is easy to hit. He will take a beating in this fight and possibly be stopped in the late rounds.

[rochsolloch]

honest to god i sincerely do like ricky certainly knows he will win.
ive said it before hes going to do what duran did to leonard and anger him into a brawl and make him mad and draw him into a battle in the middle of the ring.mayweather is jealous mad because of the adoration hatton gets and the fans who follow him in the tens of thousands all this will put a dent in floyds ego leading up to the fight and make him want to brawl with hatton what goes on leading up to a fight is about 75% to do with the result.

[MacManJr.]

Obviously he does...:patsch

And so do i:goodSo you telling me Hatton hits as hard as Oscar?

[Pimp C]

So you telling me Hatton hits as hard as Oscar?
Yes he is.

[Charles187]

Yes he is.

Prime Oscar hits harder no doubt but the version PBF faced........

[Pimp C]

Prime Oscar hits harder no doubt but the version PBF faced........
PBF fought Oscar at 154 no way in hell does Ricky hit harder than Oscar prime or not.:deal

[MacManJr.]

Floyd has a chin..lol he trains to take a punch though he dont get hit. His kneck is solid and when he got tagged by judah, odh or whoever else he did not get hurt at all. Corley wobbled him with a shot he didnt see. That was the only time I seen him actually hurt by a punch. Hattons chance is if Floyd tries to engage him and be the aggressor which he is not really his MO. But he wont. He will box hatton and hattons fans will be in awe on how a boxer can force a pressure fighter to box. Especially pressure fighters with short reach and not good combination punching. Hatton cant cut no ring off against floyd. LOL that is a joke. Hatton looked good against fighters that just stood there like statues or came right at him and tried to fight him his fight(castillo)Its about time somebody besides me said this. Oscar hit him with 3 or 4 flush right hands and didnt even budge him. Zab got some good lefts in and one made him put his glove down but he was off balance not hurt. Floyd does not have a glass jaw. I have every pro fight he has had on dvd up until the Gatti fight and he has been cracked before but never dropped. His defense is good but NOBODY should think he never gets hit flush. His power is underrated too. He hit Oscar with a right that made his knees buckle. That surprised me because Oscar has a great chin too. I think he will sit down on some punches and really hurt Hatton because I can't see Hatton as a 1 punch KO threat like Oscar was with the left hook. I still say Floyd can't be KO'd with 1 punch by anybody 147 and below though.

[Pimp C]

When Floyd was pressured during the Castillo and Oscar fights, he had no answer for it. All he does is play the ropes and use his shoulder roll defense. Ricky will pressure him like never before. As good as a boxer you might be, theres only so much you can do when your opponent is smothering you for all 12rnds.
PBF had plenty of answers when Oscar pressured him. I guess you didn't see that perfect display of beating Oscar to the punch, counter punching and slipping punches when Oscar had PBF against the ropes.:deal PBF does some of his best work against the ropes where have you been?
The bigger question is how will Hatton cope with being beaten to the punch countered to death and PBF not being there for Hatton to hold and hit.:hi: Please don't tell me now that you're picking Ricky to win this fight? I guess you'll never learn. I hope you do so I can add your name to the list of people I will clown come Dec 8th.

[Pimp C]

Its about time somebody besides me said this. Oscar hit him with 3 or 4 flush right hands and didnt even budge him. Zab got some good lefts in and one made him put his glove down but he was off balance not hurt. Floyd does not have a glass jaw. I have every pro fight he has had uo until the Gatti fight and he has been cracked before but never dropped. His defense is good but NOBODY should think he never gets hit flush. His power is underrated too. He hit Oscar with a right that made his knees buckle. That surprised me because Oscar has a great chin too. I think he will sit down on some punches and really hurt Hatton because I can't see Hatton as a 1 punch KO threat like Oscar was with the left hook. I still say Floyd can't be KO'd with 1 punch by anybody 147 and below though.
Exactly! PBF has faced bigger punchers than Hatton and hasn't been fazed. PBF has underrated toughness and heart. Not to mention Hatton's best punch the left hook to the body will be damn near impossible for Hatton to land in the middle of the ring. Another fact that Hatton fanboys love to overlook.

[MacManJr.]

Yes he is.Is he on dope or dog food?

[MacManJr.]

Prime Oscar hits harder no doubt but the version PBF faced........Punching power is the last thing a fighter loses. You will see next year when Oscar moves back to WW and (depending on who he fights) knocks somebody's block off! I would bet the house that he can KO Hatton.

[Guru_Too_You]

Prime Oscar hits harder no doubt but the version PBF faced........

Power is the absolutely last thing to go.

Trinidad hit Mayorga with like 400 power punches before he dropped him.

It took Oscar one good one.

That is a ludicrous statement. Ricky couldnt drop Mayorga with one punch in his wildest dreams.

[MacManJr.]

Power is the absolutely last thing to go.

Trinidad hit Mayorga with like 400 power punches before he dropped him.

It took Oscar one good one.

That is a ludicrous statement. Ricky couldnt drop Mayorga with one punch in his wildest dreams.:happy

[TroubleLurks]

Hatton is going to get diced up in this fight. I would love to be proven wrong but I just don't see it happening.

[joe33]

One only has to look at the history of boxing,with so many upsets some bigger then others to say,that of course he has a chance,id say maybe 60% in favour of mayweather,but who knows how its gonna go,should be good though,and if he gets well beat,either by a KO or wide points loss,then thats fair enough.

[Taffyy]

Good post Deev..........

[jecxbox]

Floyd is going to have to land a lot of clean punches to make Hatton's aggression look bad. If Floyd only lands very few punches like he did vs DLH I think he might be in for a scare on the score cards. Hey we might get the ridiculous score cards of Morales vs Diaz!

[Drexl]

My guess is that Hatton will do surprisingly well early on and it will be one of those fights that are hard to score because one guy is volume-punching and the other is picking his shots but landing cleaner. When they actually land about the same number, do you score for the guy who is busier or the guy who is more accurate?

In the end I think it won't matter because I see this being stopped on cuts. Ricky will win fans but lose the fight.

[sonny73]

Its about time somebody besides me said this. Oscar hit him with 3 or 4 flush right hands and didnt even budge him. Zab got some good lefts in and one made him put his glove down but he was off balance not hurt. Floyd does not have a glass jaw. I have every pro fight he has had on dvd up until the Gatti fight and he has been cracked before but never dropped. His defense is good but NOBODY should think he never gets hit flush. His power is underrated too. He hit Oscar with a right that made his knees buckle. That surprised me because Oscar has a great chin too. I think he will sit down on some punches and really hurt Hatton because I can't see Hatton as a 1 punch KO threat like Oscar was with the left hook. I still say Floyd can't be KO'd with 1 punch by anybody 147 and below though.
Hatton lands the same shot he landed on Castillo and he gets KO'd,no matter how good his chin is.