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DoumB
08-05-2007, 08:10 PM
Do you guys actualy beleive someone will come and be able to defeat Wlad in a close futur( 4-5 years) I mean we have some interesting match ups that could be made but do you guys beleive someone would be able to beat wlad in the nest 5 years?

andyZOR
08-05-2007, 08:25 PM
The only person who has the ability is probley Peter.

BeaverDan
08-05-2007, 08:28 PM
Do you guys actualy beleive someone will come and be able to defeat Wlad in a close futur( 4-5 years) I mean we have some interesting match ups that could be made but do you guys beleive someone would be able to beat wlad in the nest 5 years?

David Haye? :hey :-D

brooklyn1550
08-05-2007, 08:42 PM
Samuel Peter
Alexander Povetkin

Muchmoore
08-05-2007, 08:46 PM
Chageav and Peter have good shots to beat Wlad. Povetkin can be a very good fighter but he isn't very big and on film he isn't what a lot of people make him out to be. Haye has yet to prove himself.

El Bombasto
08-05-2007, 09:45 PM
sure, 5 years is a long-time to try and stay on top

Brickhaus
08-05-2007, 09:47 PM
I doubt he goes undefeated for the next 5, but I doubt there's anyone around who can in the next 2, unless Peter improves rapidly.

cross_trainer
08-05-2007, 09:52 PM
Better question--who can beat him in the next few years AND will be likely to face him in that time frame?

a.arthur.h
08-05-2007, 10:04 PM
I haven't seen Povetkin but people seem to hype him up a lot..I'm not holding my breath for him. I don't think Peter can handle him. He has zero technique with his punches and Wlad was only hurt seriously when hit behind the head for the most part. He knows what to do when he gets in trouble and after Peter had him in trouble he came back and staggered Peter in the 12th.

In 4-5 years, absolutely, someone will come along. 5 years is a long time for a heavyweight. And anyone that claims conditioning will play a factor is dead wrong. If that was the case he wouldn't have gone 12 with Sam Peter, and that was recently.

He is clinical, calm, and precise. I don't think anyone in the current crop can be hoped to do anything but hope for a lucky shot. Certainly nobody is going to outbox him. I'm hoping somebody comes along soon that can join Wlad at the top, whether it be Povetkin, or someone coming up under the radar.

aliwasthegreatest
08-05-2007, 10:06 PM
someone has to work him over on the inside. his inside game is aboslute garbage

Loufatski
08-06-2007, 10:44 AM
Do you guys actualy beleive someone will come and be able to defeat Wlad in a close futur( 4-5 years) I mean we have some interesting match ups that could be made but do you guys beleive someone would be able to beat wlad in the nest 5 years?

Possibly Peter in a rematch, another one of the Russians, or Golota.

Muchmoore
08-06-2007, 10:47 AM
someone has to work him over on the inside. his inside game is aboslute garbage

What inside game?

Someone needs to grow a pair and try to take the fight to him. Don't let him decide the pace of the fight because your screwed if he does. Corrie Sanders had it right, just go right at him.

MrMagic
08-06-2007, 10:50 AM
What inside game?

Someone needs to grow a pair and try to take the fight to him. Don't let him decide the pace of the fight because your screwed if he does. Corrie Sanders had it right, just go right at him.
It ain't that easy these days when his jab will be in your face with 50%+ accuracy

Muchmoore
08-06-2007, 10:58 AM
It ain't that easy these days when his jab will be in your face with 50%+ accuracy

Of course not, his jab has ATG power.

But getting inside is the only chance to beat him, no ones going to beat him on the outside outjabbing him.

Vantage_West
08-06-2007, 11:42 AM
I haven't seen Povetkin but people seem to hype him up a lot..I'm not holding my breath for him. I don't think Peter can handle him. He has zero technique with his punches and Wlad was only hurt seriously when hit behind the head for the most part. He knows what to do when he gets in trouble and after Peter had him in trouble he came back and staggered Peter in the 12th.

In 4-5 years, absolutely, someone will come along. 5 years is a long time for a heavyweight. And anyone that claims conditioning will play a factor is dead wrong. If that was the case he wouldn't have gone 12 with Sam Peter, and that was recently.

He is clinical, calm, and precise. I don't think anyone in the current crop can be hoped to do anything but hope for a lucky shot. Certainly nobody is going to outbox him. I'm hoping somebody comes along soon that can join Wlad at the top, whether it be Povetkin, or someone coming up under the radar.povetkin is an allrounder but is rather agresive nice jab but is a power jab to break through guards...he doesnt have the size....not in hieght but in frame there isnt enough wieght to him.

good in everything...but i think he will fall apart solis has the advnatge of being a bit more defencive where as povvetking could turn into the next gatti if he goes down the crowd pleasing route.but he is a young man and has alot of talent.


time will tell but solis is a bit more snappy where as povetkin is like hatton very aggresive with a big ton of heart.

good luck for both these guys:good

Zakman
08-06-2007, 12:07 PM
The only person who has the ability is probley Peter.

Exactly. Peter is the only guy on the horizon right now who could challlenge Wlad's dominance.

Sputnik44
08-06-2007, 01:22 PM
Next time a puncher really lands hes fucked, he has great ability but an awful chin, he ll lose aagin with 3 years never mind 5

It's the heavyweight division man any heavyweight who gets tagged by a big puncher is going to have trouble... the key it to avoid that by utilizing your other skills

sticking your chin out and getting tagged doesn't make you a champ...

madpup
08-06-2007, 01:46 PM
Maybe David Haye if he improves a lot. IMO Wlad can only lose to a skillful big puncher who also has skills and the energy to swarm him. There is no one in the heavyweight division like that at the moment, Haye maybe in the future.

Brickhaus
08-06-2007, 02:50 PM
Maybe David Haye if he improves a lot. IMO Wlad can only lose to a skillful big puncher who also has skills and the energy to swarm him. There is no one in the heavyweight division like that at the moment, Haye maybe in the future.

Haye doesn't have the chin to get inside and land his own big punches...

One other name I forgot who might be able to get there if he improves his skill is Virchis. He has a hammer, and if he can walk through Wlad's offense to tag his chin, he might have a shot.

Heavyrighthand
08-06-2007, 04:43 PM
What inside game?

Someone needs to grow a pair and try to take the fight to him. Don't let him decide the pace of the fight because your screwed if he does. Corrie Sanders had it right, just go right at him.

If just going right at him were that easy, Brewster would have done it.

Fact is, he's very aware that fighters want to get inside and go to work on him, so he is very carefully to prevent that, by keeping that jackhammer jab in their face, and also that straight right banging their head back.

Just going right at him is not really a good plan, anymore, cause he's aware of and ready for that, now, as he proved in a few recent fights. But that said, just going right at him is still the only hope, even if it is a slim hope.

Brent
08-06-2007, 04:58 PM
Povetkin, Dimitrenko, Chagaev are all threats in a 5 year span.

Peter is vastly overrated. As soon as a referee starts calling him for illegal blows he will not have much of an arsenal, and his defense sucks. A timid, unconfident Wladimir schooled Peter for 35 out of 36 minutes. Today's Wlad, with rediscovered confidence and a better defense borne of Manny Steward's tutelage, TKO's the slow and lumbering Peter in 8 rounds or so.

Brent
08-06-2007, 05:00 PM
The only person who has the ability is probley Peter.

Peter has the power, but not the skill.

Wlad will just school the ox once again.